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Speaker 2: You know what they do. He calf rope.

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Speaker 2: At first I thought he had tweets. I said, damn,

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Speaker 1: But then as he started to move, I was like, nah, bro,

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Speaker 2: Now? Who else?

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Speaker 3: And uh who that's dope, that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: God, I don't know what I did to do deserve

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Speaker 1: all this, what you've done for my family, but I

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Speaker 2: But we've got a big story, the biggest story.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, I need a chapstick, hold on, Hold.

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Speaker 2: Ahead, go ahead, h yeah, man y oh, there's a

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Speaker 1: to read as a Oho and as Ocho is coming back,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I wanted to be there.

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Speaker 1: I did everything I could to show that I wanted

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Speaker 1: I wanted to play in front of the best fans

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Speaker 1: in sports and make America's team prop Murray's team once again,

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Speaker 1: well up in Harrisburg, PA. He is from Harrisburg, Ojo.

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Speaker 1: You know, normally Harrisburg, normally that Steeler or Eagles country.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold that against you. But think about it.

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Speaker 1: I no longer want to be held to a closed

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Speaker 2: Ojo take off, What do you take on me?

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Speaker 3: I just, I just I don't understand. It's one thing

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Speaker 3: But he just like proudly you know how he feels

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Speaker 1: See, if we talk about oo, that's why I like

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Speaker 1: and told me why.

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Speaker 3: You never want to be a part of where. You

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Speaker 2: This is what they do. This is not what you do.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem.

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Speaker 1: I think Bobby Wagner was one of the first ones

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Speaker 1: that says, you know, I no longer have an agent.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna negotiate my own contract.

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Speaker 1: I think Scharn does that. I think we saw Lamar

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Speaker 1: my own representative. I'm going to engage in these talks

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Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. But if I tell you I

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Speaker 1: You know, buddy, buddy, buddy, That's why I have representation,

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Speaker 2: So that's why Jerry had him going all these places.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Michael, come on, fly on the plane, because he's

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Speaker 1: You're right, I can do this on my own.

435
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: And then that way I'm gonna have to give David

436
00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: his agent.

437
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: I won't have to give him two three percent of

438
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, whatever he charges, I just

439
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: keep that for himself. But that's not what Michael said.

440
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: Michael says, hey, I have an agent. He's like, I

441
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: thought this was the start of the negotiation. Hey, hey,

442
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: David Muguletta is looking forward to hearing from you. A

443
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: tell them we had a great conversation. He'll take it

444
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: from here. Jed thought they had a done deal.

445
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: Michael, no, no, no, no. Hey. But but this is

446
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: the part I understand. This goes for everybody also in

447
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 3: the chat. You have certain players, you have special players

448
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 3: that come along. I call them no brainers. I call

449
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: them players that are no brainers when they come in,

450
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: when they get drafted and you watch them play year

451
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: to year, it's a no brainer when it's time to

452
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: pay him. Michael Parsons is a no brainer. The Jamar

453
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: Speceis are no brainers, justin Jefferson's are no brainers. Aman

454
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 3: Ross Saint Brian. I'm just using receivers perspective. It was

455
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: a no brainers. You know, there's no reason to play

456
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: a game when it comes to a player of that magnitude,

457
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: even if they're whatever the books may say like stuff

458
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: like that. Well, we know what we have one player

459
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: on defense. It's our superstar. The ball the balls should

460
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: have been rolling on the season started another three weeks

461
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: and what do we talk Why are we still talking

462
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: about contract with the no brainer?

463
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because think about it what it cost the Binger.

464
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 1: It cost them an extra six million dollars a year,

465
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: or next to twenty four million dollars over four years.

466
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 1: Because you waited a year, it probably cost you an

467
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: extra thirty million dollars in guarantees because you waited the

468
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: nextra year.

469
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: So you have to pay a tax.

470
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: You have to pay a penalty if you're late. Let

471
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. If you lay on your rent,

472
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: you pay a penalty if you lay. If you got

473
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: something at the court and you're late, if you owe

474
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: Uncle Sam, there's a penalty for being late. If you

475
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: negotiate my contract late, there is a penalty for said service. Now,

476
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: with all that being said, you didn't have to say

477
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: any of that.

478
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: But Jerry just going to show you. See now, Jerry,

479
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: he's got to let you know.

480
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 1: Because it is reported that as the representative has been

481
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: trying to reach out, Jerry ain't returned on campus.

482
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: Absolutely the point.

483
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: He's trying to prove, I have no idea.

484
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay. I'll pay you when I get ready,

485
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: like you do me, like you. You basically told me.

486
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 3: I ain't say that. I mean your action you baby,

487
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: I'm not Jerry. I don't. I don't like that comparison.

488
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 3: Don't do me like that.

489
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: Don't. Yeah, you could we come up on a year.

490
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: It's pennoty for b l A.

491
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Speaker 3: I got you. I got one thing about it. I

492
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: got you.

493
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: I need see you got it. But I need to

494
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: get you know A you know, light right now with Joe,

495
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: I can light right now, this I can light.

496
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: That's why I love you.

497
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: That's why I love that.

498
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: That's what I need. You come on, come on back home.

499
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: So that's what I need you. Thank you, thank you,

500
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: thank you. That's but let's go. We're gonna be all right.

501
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: But we're gonna be all right. I'm telling you we're good.

502
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: That Hey, Todd Trippers said we're gonna be all right,

503
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: and and and Michael, Michael said, well you back in

504
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: the corner. Hell, I don't even be here no more. Hey,

505
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: if you think, I tell you what if you upset

506
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: talking about I might not be here. I missed six

507
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: game trade me yeah, see what the market is the trade.

508
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: But hey, if if Jerry was to play, but obviously

509
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: you know he's not gonna do that. Boy, you know,

510
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: Michael could reset the market by what.

511
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: Oh he gonna market away with me. I mean, I'm

512
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm I definitely believe and get forty five easy, I believe.

513
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: I believe you get forty five.

514
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: Whatever Miles get, whatever Miles Garrett gotten, guaranteed money I

515
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: think he got, Miles got one twenty three, he's gonna

516
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: want he got.

517
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: But this is the only part I don't like is

518
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: whatever team he goes to, it wouldn't be a contender.

519
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: It'd be a team that has a lot of room,

520
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: a lot of salary cap room, so they'll be able

521
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 3: to pay him.

522
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: That he was a trade for it. That's not the

523
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: command of the trade Eagles.

524
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: That's not fair. That's that's not fair. If he were

525
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: to go to the Eagles and they gave up whatever

526
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: compensation they would want for Michael Parsons, then you might

527
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: as well hand him the God damn Lombardy. Now just

528
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: just go ahead and give it to him.

529
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Well, you what Jared said, he worried about the missing time.

530
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: He won't have to worry about it.

531
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: He don't have to worry about paying him, and he

532
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: ain't got to worry about him getting injured and missing

533
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: time on his DME.

534
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: So with that being saved. But like like like, and

535
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: at some point in time, it's just like, bro, what

536
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: are we doing here? I get it, I get it.

537
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: You owned the team, you said, Hey, I'm in my

538
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: fifth year. We could have done something after year four,

539
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean year three. We could have done something after

540
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: year four. So now we're now we're into my the option.

541
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: You picked up my fifth year player option. That's where

542
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: we are right now. After four Pro Bowls, two to three,

543
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: first twelve sacks, four years in a row.

544
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: Come on, huh?

545
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: Is that so? Is that what we're doing right now? Jared? Really, really,

546
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: that's what we're doing.

547
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: It couldn't listen. I can't say it couldn't be me

548
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: because I'm just trying to Yes.

549
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: Said, this is negotiating, no shoe, he said, we're negotiating now.

550
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: But it's a shrewd business. It's a shrewd business. And

551
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: the fact that he let his feelings out publicly like that,

552
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: it is all you need to know.

553
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: It's all I understand.

554
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: I think you and I look, we've played sports and

555
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: we've been in the negotiating. When negotiation gets me personal,

556
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful, O Joe. You gotta be careful

557
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: in any type of negotiation, whatever the case may be.

558
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: If it starts to get personal, one side will start

559
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: to build up a resentment towards the other side. But

560
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: and then even when he gets the money, they still

561
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: feel a certain way, and then the other person that

562
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: gave you the money still feels a certain.

563
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: Regardless. For us as the player, we're never in a

564
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: position of leverage. We're are of power.

565
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: But what it unless you unless, unless you're like you

566
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: know what you turn out to be, You're like, damn,

567
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm all, I'm rookie, rookie of the year, I'm all pro,

568
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: and I really just sit on my money and I'm

569
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm willing to say, Okay, y'all playing. I see y'all

570
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: week eight so I can get that. I'll see y'all

571
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: week eight so I get that best a year, Come in,

572
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: give me another quick eight sacks.

573
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: Now what you'all gonna do? Y'all play, y'all play, I play.

574
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

575
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: But see, that's the thing. If you didn't have to

576
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: see Jerry Nosey had leverage. He have a fifth your

577
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: player option which is this year, and he has two

578
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: franchiseess So just imagine, just imagine if see d You

579
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: see what Dak wrote in his contracts, no franchise tags,

580
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: but he no franchise can do that.

581
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, put that in there.

582
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: But hey, now you can't franchise me because that's the

583
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: leverage that they got because I got I got theoretically, Mike,

584
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 1: I got you for this year and two more.

585
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: Dang, that's a it's it's unbelievable game. The game that

586
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: they play. You already know how they feel right, how

587
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: they feel about you. You know. It's one thing that

588
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: they say, and I hate to bring it up, is

589
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 3: the first thing when you when you compare the NFL

590
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: to a certain term they want to use the first people.

591
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: The first thing people bring up, well, you get paid millions.

592
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: But it's modern day you know what, but you get

593
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: paid millions, you know. But that's that's need to hear

594
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: no there, but just to hear Jerry say it. Just

595
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: the fact that he uttered the words with confidence. Here

596
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: in the world, how about your star player? And then

597
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: he took a shot of dad, what what are we?

598
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: What are we doing?

599
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: Well, look, Dak realized he is the quarterback. Dak is

600
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: the leader of the team. Yes, but he and Jerry

601
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: it's not like see, Jerry had a relationship with Tony Romo.

602
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: That's Dak is always housing post Jerry because it was

603
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Jerry that wanted to give.

604
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: Tony Romo a job back that wasn't happen. Oh he got,

605
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: He kind of got, you.

606
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: Know, Steven and I think Jason Garrett and a few

607
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: others like Jerry, what are you doing?

608
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: What do you what? What are you?

609
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Even after all those injuries that that

610
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: uh uh uh Tony Romo he paid him. He mentioned

611
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: nothing about no injury. He mentioned nothing about that. And

612
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: at one point time Tony Romo was a high play

613
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: play in the.

614
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: NFL day.

615
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: When I blink it funny thing about.

616
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: Jerry also spoke with the reporters about Michael trey requests.

617
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what Jerry had to say.

618
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: See see.

619
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: Man. He said something very interesting, Joe. He says, Michael's

620
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: under contract. But what about when players are in the

621
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: contract and they get cut.

622
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: You know, they don't care, don't.

623
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: You see out one side? You thought, Oh, we have contract,

624
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: we have rules, but the rules are one sided.

625
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: If I outperform the contract, want a new contract, you say,

626
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: whoa whoa you on the contract. If I underperformed the

627
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: contract that I signed, you said, you gotta go.

628
00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: You.

629
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: This is what this is what players should be. This

630
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: is why they fight so hard to try to get

631
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. This is what you should be instead of

632
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: petty privileges, instead of worrying about two of days and

633
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: worry about how many padded practice you have during the course.

634
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: Of the year.

635
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: These are the things that true leadership in the NFL PA,

636
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: this is what you should be fighting for.

637
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm getting rid of the trade. No, we're not doing

638
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: a franchise tag.

639
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: Look if I if I, if I'm at a normal

640
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: job and I want to my contract is coming up.

641
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: They can't say, well, we're gonna franchise you.

642
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: And if I work for Google, that means I can't

643
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: go talk to Apple or I can't go talk to Microsoft. No,

644
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: free agency. How can you be free? If you can't,

645
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: you you under tag. They gotta tag on you. Free

646
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: agency means I'm free to negotiate wherever. Oh, and they

647
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: can't be a cap because whatever the market would bear.

648
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: I just saw a.

649
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg.

650
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: Just pay a guy A I got two hundred and

651
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: fifty million, gave a one hundred million up front. That's

652
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: what free agency is. All I'm saying against and we're

653
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna give it. I just hope the next person in

654
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: the NFL THEA. This is some of this is some

655
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: of the themes. Health benefits, no SAP, no uh franchise tag,

656
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: no friend franchise contracts. Yeah, man, because you can't, oh Joe,

657
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: you can't have it both ways. You can negotiate with

658
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: me when you want to, but you can also cut

659
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: me when you want to. So if I performed the contract,

660
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: you say you got a contract. I underperformed the contract.

661
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: You didn't perform up to the standard, and so now

662
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: you go.

663
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: You got to be careful. They need somebody, all right.

664
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: I know you think you view me, you view me

665
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: as a fun to love, the entertainment that the jokes

666
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: in the last. But they need somebody shrew that could

667
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: be shrewed right back. When it come to conducting business,

668
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: you got to be someone that's fighting for the players,

669
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 3: not minimizing the players and pretending like I'm for you,

670
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: but really siding on the other end.

671
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

672
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: Man, Listen, you know how we the NFL owners, don't

673
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: want to lose the leverage. Baseball players have the leverage. Basketball,

674
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: the players have the leverage. All sports where contracts are guaranteed,

675
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 3: the players have the leverage. I think because so many

676
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: players on the team, NFL owners don't want to lose

677
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 3: a leverage of the players.

678
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm blad. Guess what?

679
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know when this back And I ain't

680
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: putting no Ben Gay on it either, So I don't

681
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: know when this back issue because it players up every

682
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: time I go to putting that that help and all

683
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: my back start.

684
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: Every time he could play, he could play horrorball, he

685
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: could play horriball. But listen, with with with owners, GMS,

686
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: everyone that sits in a position of power on the

687
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: NFL team, What they will use against you is they

688
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: know you're probably fold before I do. Because you love

689
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: the game, the game, you love the game, banking on it,

690
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: You're gonna fold before they do. So you you got

691
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: you got to play hardball. How hard do you want

692
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: to play the game? Because they gonna play with you,

693
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 3: They're gonna test you.

694
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh you see how agitated he got. I negotiated

695
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: to Mark.

696
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 3: Now I answer the question already.

697
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: No, Michael said he thought you were talking about leadership.

698
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: He referred you to his agent. You asking me, Yeah,

699
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: we're asking you, But we talked to Michael too.

700
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: Listen, can you imagine a chat? I don't. I don't

701
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: mean I'm not. I'm not into really into hypotheticals, because

702
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: you imagine if Jeffy Lewie and Howie Roseman ran the Cowboys.

703
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if they were the one in chargeable.

704
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: With the talent that they had, because they drafted like

705
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: the second They've drafted like the second most since what

706
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen?

707
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: Maybe the second they might be first with the Chiefs

708
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: as far.

709
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: As a Pro Bowl players, imagine because how many times

710
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: they've been the number one seed and got bounced in

711
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: the first route or the second round with that talent

712
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: and hold on when they had the best running back

713
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: in football z L, the best offensive line in football,

714
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: and they when they were taken, when they were putting eight, nine,

715
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: ten guys into the Pro Bowl, when they had when

716
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: they had when they had those teams with Romo and

717
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Witten and t O and they had the Marcus where

718
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: and they had all those guys.

719
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: Boy were nice, but they were loaded with they were loaded.

720
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: But I think I'm not sure why Jerry can't can

721
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: can't get it or can't see it.

722
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: Jay One's credit.

723
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: You look at the Patriots, Look at all the teams

724
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: that is successful every season every season. The Patriots when

725
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: they their dynasty and the good years you had Belichick,

726
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: you had Tom Brady. Forget that part.

727
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: Where did it start, mister gram And the only time

728
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: you heard from mister Craff is when he was taking

729
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: the trophy out of Rode.

730
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: Everything starts at the top, winning starts in the front,

731
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: and it trickles all the way.

732
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: Down, right. But Jerry wants it to be about him.

733
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: That's why.

734
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: That's why people like, oh, Tom Brady should go to

735
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady should go to the Cowboys. Boy you,

736
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, sayd Jerry, I'll play for you for a

737
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: million dollars, and Jerry would have told him, hell no,

738
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: because Jerry would never be bigger than Tom. And Jerry

739
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: don't want nobody to be on the Cowboys to be

740
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: bigger than him, So that's not gonna happen.

741
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

742
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't get why he's doing it like this, but look,

743
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: they go, I guess this is there. You know how

744
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: you have a negotiation in the media and it should

745
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: be negotiated behind closed doors. Oh well, x y Z,

746
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: we negotiated, we had, we had a deal done. Michael said, well, hey,

747
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: I want to Hey, I don't even want to play

748
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: for y'all.

749
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: No more. Let me let me go, Hey, let me go, continue.

750
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: To do this on purpose, because it does what it

751
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: keeps whose team in the head.

752
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: In the media we're talking about yeah, because ain't nobody

753
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, the only other team that we

754
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: talked about me is Cleveland and should do it? We

755
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: really if you really think about it, though, Shoe, we

756
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: ain't really having a discussion about No. No, you know,

757
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: we talked here and there about you know, the broad

758
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: mask between Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin. I was just

759
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: reading a little bit about Matthew Stafford got something going

760
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: on over his back or something. But for the most part, o, Shoe,

761
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys, the Michael, Jerry and you got your

762
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: door pretty. It's it's been a really a relative quyat

763
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: training camp cycle and you know, Jared like, hey, let

764
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: me let me let me start some ish, like hey,

765
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: popping out for us right now, let me start some

766
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: ish and uh and to see where this thing go.

767
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: The funny thing about it, but I don't like is Michael.

768
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: I feel bad for Michael. I feel bad for the Cowboys,

769
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: the fans. I feel bad for the players because to

770
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: know that this is how your owner thinks of you.

771
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: If you can talk about your star players like that,

772
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: you know what he thinks about you. And Jerry is

773
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: is is at a forefront and letting people know nobody

774
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: run the show with me and nobody.

775
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: Program program. Yeah, well you're at look even even the team.

776
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just so you know, every team gets a

777
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: check cut for four hundred and thirty two million, So

778
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: it's not like you're doing an outstanding job because you're not.

779
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 3: It sells itself at this point.

780
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: It does just like all the other team. All the

781
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: other teams sell them.

782
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: Say granted, now when it comes to the local market,

783
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: they probably don't do what Jerry does because it's Dallas.

784
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 3: You know.

785
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: Obviously they don't sell in Jacksonville's Cincinnati or Houston or

786
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: Tennessee like they do. Okay, fine, but they're not gonna

787
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: be and they're not gonna be in the line tomorrow either,

788
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: But just keep doing it that way. He gonna get

789
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: tired of Philly. He gonna get tired of Philly and

790
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: Washington run of the divisions.

791
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: He gets tired.

792
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 3: It's been thirty years. If he was gonna get tired

793
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: of it, he would have He would have already picked

794
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 3: up on how everyone else is doing things. He's continued

795
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: to do it his way. He's set in his ways.

796
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: At this, of course a change. If I was the

797
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: owner of any team, I'd be taking notes. Okay, this

798
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: is what crafted, This is what Belichick did. Okay, this

799
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: is what Howie and and Jeff did.

800
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: This is what Clark Hunt and Andy Reid. How they

801
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: had no business.

802
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: Let me see the rooney The Rooneys had success during

803
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: this era. All Right, we're in a different era. But

804
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: let me see if I can steal some of the

805
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: things that they did, how they conducted business. Let me

806
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: add this to my and came with my own game plan,

807
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: my own formula on how to conduct things. Draft right,

808
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: pay early, keep certain people many.

809
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: That's what they do.

810
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: They pay early with identified guy, we drafted me, homegrown guy.

811
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: Let's get him a year three.

812
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: Uh.

813
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: You know they got carloftus.

814
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

815
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: It's gonna take a pretty penny to get McDuffie signed.

816
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: But are they are they gonna are They're going to

817
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: Simon McDuffie becauld You let the Jerry sneed Yeah.

818
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: They they go. Yeah, they're not gonna let him go.

819
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: They're not gonna let him go.

820
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: H Later in the pressor, Jerry tried to use Daz

821
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: Bryant negotiation as reasoning for not wanting to work with

822
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: Michael Parson's agent. Let's take a listen to what Jerry

823
00:45:48,120 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: said about this. M I know Jeredy Jared drossness, what

824
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: does that have to do with it?

825
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: A goddamn thing.

826
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: He said.

827
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: The reason why I don't like working with agents because

828
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: the agent told me that this client was gonna be

829
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: on time.

830
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: That's what he told me.

831
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: He said, I'm used to working on the street corner,

832
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: and if you work on the street corner, if you're late,

833
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: if you're earlier, you're late. So you better believe my guy.

834
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: If they're in this organization, which was rock n they're

835
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: gonna be on time. This is this was a dead's response,

836
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. I don't think it's smart mentioned in my name.

837
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: I kept quiet about a lot of unfair ish some

838
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: ish who we have a story tized, that's what we're doing.

839
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 3: You know, you know, you know, you know, Dave got

840
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: he got his little piece. But you can't win that war.

841
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't. You can't win that war. You

842
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: can't win that war and what what I what I

843
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: wouldn't do.

844
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not getting into it.

845
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm not getting because Jerry, he, Jerry is the type

846
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: of tell all your business na so he oh Joe,

847
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: that's a little, a little Okay, Dad's.

848
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: Was late for me.

849
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: They okay, I get you who wasn't because I was too,

850
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: But Jerry might not back like, hold on, no, Jerry,

851
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: you can't say that. Oh I wasn't supposed to tell

852
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: that much, you know, Jay, Hey, you know the old people,

853
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: oh Joe, when they measure, they don't really have no measuring.

854
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: They go by field, they go by Okay, this and

855
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: that ain't no measuring cup. See some some you know, coaches,

856
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: owners might measure. Okay, I get a little bit. Jar

857
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: If he can.

858
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: To micaeh, who is of value to his franchise right now?

859
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 3: What do you think he'll do the days who is

860
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: of no value right now?

861
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

862
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: You know so I And also I wouldn't want to

863
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: There are certain bridges I don't want to burn. Certain

864
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: bridges I don't want to burn because you never know

865
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: when you might have to cross him again.

866
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, forget, I'm sure I'm sure Dad will sitting on

867
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: his cast No Dad, No, Dad will probably playing a

868
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: mad because you say, Dad's good.

869
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: N What the hell I gotta do with this? My

870
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: own business? And you bring you bring me into this.

871
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: And you know what's funny is is we we have

872
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: people on the outside, you know, looking at it. Uh,

873
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: they're they're just owners and and I I want people

874
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 3: to understand how powerful, how powerful these individuals are outside

875
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: of the game of football. I want people to understand.

876
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 3: So when I when I just said, there's certain bridges

877
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: you don't want to burn, even if okay, you know

878
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 3: what he says something you don't like, Well, you know what,

879
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 3: there's certain things you got to let go because you

880
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: go on the ward with something you will never be

881
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 3: able to defeat and it can ruin a lot of

882
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: things for you outside if if you get what I'm

883
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: saying them, folks, is very very very very powerful outside

884
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: of football. I think people don't, you know, I think

885
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: people really don't really don't understand the power that these

886
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: individuals have. I mean, I mean the cat, just a

887
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: regular regular football fans, like people in the chair. I

888
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 3: don't think.

889
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, people are Yeah, I told him, mister Bullen, call

890
00:49:53,239 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: and got my money back. Oh, Joe, I can if

891
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: I give you the right tools, I can, you can

892
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: probably win the war. But I gotta give you the

893
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: white weapons to go fight. I don't know currently if

894
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: if Michael has the weapon to fight.

895
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: Now it's unfair.

896
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: Yep. But now I'm like, hello, hello, Dance Dance, how

897
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: long you've been retiring? Seven years?

898
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: And not sure why he even brought his name up?

899
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: Brought he brought because here's the thing. You could say

900
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: that you didn't have to use dance. You could have

901
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: said there have been times that the agent told me

902
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: that player X was gonna get treatment, player X was

903
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna do X.

904
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: Y and Z with player X does not do that.

905
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: And I try to get on the phone with the

906
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: agent now all of a sudden he won't return the calls. Now,

907
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: but when we're negotiating money, he calling me. I got

908
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: all this, I got all this fun I got I

909
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: got this. I got his landline, and you know, a

910
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: whole lot of people ain't got land lines no more.

911
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: But I got his landline.

912
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: I got the number to the secretary, I got his

913
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: personal phone number, I got X, Y and Z. All

914
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying is he didn't.

915
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 3: Have to use Dace it ain't make no sense.

916
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: He didn't have to use dance. It makes no sense,

917
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: and I can assure you Dad's is not. But Dad's

918
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: a just let it, just let it rock you good, Hey,

919
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: you'd have made your money. You straight, You live in Dallas,

920
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: you got a nice life. Don't mess it up with

921
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: some some petty bull Dyes, it ain't even worth it, bro,

922
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: you know that. I know it's frustrating that he dragging

923
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: you into something you ain't got nothing to do with.

924
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: That.

925
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: That's between Jerry and Micah and David mcletter.

926
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: They gotta do it. Dance bright, dads bright. I don't

927
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: know if if there is an age. I don't know

928
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: if Rock Nation has a client on the Cowboyds, I

929
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: don't know.

930
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: All I do know is that there's name.

931
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have been brought up when you're trying to make

932
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: a point of why you don't like negotiating with agents.

933
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: But all these millions, everybody the bus, uh, Jerry throwing everybody, yeah,

934
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: what we're doing backed up over. But but I thought

935
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: that was the whole thing. That's the whole thing about

936
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: having an agent. I mean, when Jared, when I guarantee you,

937
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: when Jerry goes make joke knowing Sha these hundred million

938
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: dollar deals. Jerry sent this a hundred million dollar lawyers

939
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: in there negotiate with the other companies, hundred million dollar lawyers.

940
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: And you think him and mua Letta don't get along.

941
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: You think they got some personal issues or something.

942
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: No, Mua letter don't be looking to reset the market.

943
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: Damn the same thing Todd Franz did when he got

944
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: DAX money. Now, I don't know, I don't know who

945
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: represents CD, but I know Todd Franz represents that. So yeah,

946
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking to reset the market because i want to

947
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: keep climbing higher. And I'm trying to get as much

948
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: money as I guaranteed K because I'm trying to I'm

949
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: trying to get who got the most guaranteed money? Miles

950
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: Garrett one twenty three? Okay, I'm trying to get one

951
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: forty because we're gonna keep pushing it. You'll keep pushing it. Oh,

952
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson said, Oh did y'all see what Josh Allen

953
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: got guaranteed? I'm gonna need that because he got one MVP.

954
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 3: I got matter of fact, you know, you know should

955
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: have had three, you know, Shoot, Lamar going back to

956
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 3: the table after this season.

957
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: Hey, Lamar tried to go back to the table, to

958
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 2: the table befrow this season.

959
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen. I'm sure it hit the tick at

960
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 3: some point.

961
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Hey, I'm just saying, look, if you're

962
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: talking about north of what Josh got, I'll let your boy.

963
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: If that ain't what you're looking at, If that ain't

964
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: what you're looking for, what we're talking about, mm hmmm, damn.

965
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, what's about twenty eight, twenty nine? He's straight?

966
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 2: He good boy, man, I can't believe.

967
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 3: Jerry here man, j Jarry, don't care, man, buddy, don't

968
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: care man. He thugging it.

969
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: Jared, you do realize the first of all, Jared, you

970
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: do realize these are supposed to be private conversations, like

971
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: when you talk to an agent. You're supposed to be private.

972
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: This man mentioned jay Z by name. He's the idea

973
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: to deal with jay Z myself. So he's gonna be

974
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: on time, say temper where I signed a right there? Man. Oh,

975
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Mike and March at the

976
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: Big twelve Championship at the Super Bowl.

977
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: Yes, this is this is business.

978
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: Man. Hey, I never find out, Jay, you're wearing a

979
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: wire telling all about you, telling everybody business man.

980
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: Jerry put it out there, badge.

981
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Dead's response. I read to quote Jerry Jones. I

982
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: don't think it's smart to mention my name. I kept

983
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: quiet about a lot of unfair ish.

984
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: On some g ish.

985
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: We can have a we can have story time. If

986
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing now it rock Rock Nation. Terrence Steele.

987
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Terrence Steele, he's the right tackle on the Cowboys.

988
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Rock Nation also responded in twenty fifteen at the Club

989
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: at twenty one Club on a napkin, Jerry Jonesjan Perez,

990
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: Sean jay Z, Carter and Stephen Jones negotiated a five year,

991
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: seventy million dollar deal which included forty five million guaranteed

992
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: and a twenty million dollar signing bonus for deads Bright

993
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: at the time, which was the second largest contract for

994
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in NFL history. The claim that mister

995
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: Carter or Rock Nation representative did not return the call

996
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: from Jerry Jones is not only a false statement, but

997
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: it's also a comical one. Rock Nation sports you know,

998
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: sports representative.

999
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 3: So now, Jerry Lyon too. Well, you know who, don't

1000
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: We all listen, But he ain't handling Ben is the

1001
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: right way. He ain't heling Ben as the right way.

1002
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: Nope. But guess what, he don't care. He don't care.

1003
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: He don't care.

1004
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: Jay Ojo Terry McLaurin has asked commanders to trade him.

1005
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: McLaurin turns thirty in September. McLaurin in the final year.

1006
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: He's in the final year OJO final season of a

1007
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: three year deal, set to make fifteen point two million

1008
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: base salary and is currently the seventeenth highest paid wide

1009
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: receiver in terms of average annual salary.

1010
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: Man, get my dog out of that man. They want

1011
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: to Tennessee. Let him go over there to Tennessee with

1012
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: Cam real quick, so Cam could could do exactly what CJ.

1013
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 3: Stroud did. So Cam Ben doing exactly what what Jayson

1014
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 3: Daniels did over there with the commandos, you know, giving

1015
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: them weapons. Let's put them weapons around him. You know,

1016
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: we got Calvin Ridley, we got Terry McLaurin, and wait, hope,

1017
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 3: we got Tyler Locket over there too. On right, and no,

1018
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken tight of lock it in the slot?

1019
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: Come on, man, we got they still got Paula right,

1020
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: Paula still a running back. Oh, come on, man, talk

1021
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: about Tennessee, Tennessee the dark on the dark Horse team

1022
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: to make up the playoffs. Terry milanover since they want

1023
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: to play games. God damn. Jaydon Daniels doesn't have the

1024
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: rocks in his back pocket to be able to go

1025
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: up the management right now and say listen, I need

1026
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: my target. I don't think you understand a huge part

1027
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: of my success was actually having number seventeen as the target.

1028
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: Look at some of the plates they made for us

1029
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: last year. Why is it even a no brainer? I

1030
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 3: don't care about him being thirty. I don't care about

1031
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: it being thirty. Where else are we going to get

1032
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: the production from where? No disrespect to Deebo Samuels. Nice,

1033
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: very nice in what he does, very nice and what

1034
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: he does he's a Swiss army knife. You can come

1035
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 3: out the back in the slot you put him in

1036
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: with the ball in his hands is phenomenal, one of

1037
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: the best. When you're going to a game and you're planning,

1038
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: the commanders, they're game planning and setting the defensive formation.

1039
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: Where Terry McLaurin lines up, what are we talking.

1040
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: About if what Adam, if what Adam Schefter is reporting

1041
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: is to be true, he wants way north of thirty

1042
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: three million.

1043
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: They're not going there, o Joe, They're not. You know that.

1044
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 3: I know that. I mean not.

1045
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: If what Adam like I said.

1046
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: Adam Sheefter tweeted that, ask can you find that quote

1047
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: and put it up on the thing to make sure

1048
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: they'll fit the real Adam Schefter And we're not getting

1049
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: a catfish. But if what Adam Schafter reported is that

1050
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: he wants north, wait, I think the work burbage and

1051
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: the terms he used was way north of thirty three million.

1052
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 3: Listen, I want way north of thirty three million. Stay

1053
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: with me now, Commanders saying we not gonna give you

1054
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: north of thirty three million. So okay, let's negotiate. Let's

1055
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: find a happy medium that's not disrespectful to me and

1056
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: what I've done for this franchise, because the number speaks

1057
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: for themselves.

1058
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but gonna pay for what you' oh, Joe, I'm

1059
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: gonna pay for what you've done. I already paid you

1060
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: for that. I gotta pay you what I'll believe you can.

1061
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: He's thirty, right, thirty, Yes, he can. He can, he

1062
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 3: can very well. Because of the quarterback play and the

1063
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: quarterback you have, he's going to be consistent. That's a

1064
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: old brainer. He's not losing a step now.

1065
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: I just don't I just don't know if that number

1066
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: is that number that north.

1067
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: Northern thirty or northern thirty three, maybe one thirty three.

1068
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: And a half, because think about it, you do realize

1069
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: who's at thirty thirty four and thirty five c D

1070
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: and Jetta. Now what we do way north means he's

1071
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 1: thirty six thirty seven.

1072
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: Give me dog thirty two and a half. Give Terry

1073
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: mcclaurin thirty two and a half.

1074
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: I was thinking.

1075
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking more along the lines of water somewhere

1076
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: somewhere between somewhere between twenty twenty eight and a half

1077
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: and thirty one. I'm just oh Joe, I'm just oh Joe,

1078
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. I've just got I gotta be real back.

1079
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: Okay, give me a dog thirty two and a half.

1080
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: Talk to me now, talk to me nice. Huh. We

1081
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 3: talked about scary Terry. We ain't talk about just knowing

1082
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: anybody now, huh. We talked about the one who would

1083
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 3: to see on the chest. We talking about the captain,

1084
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: the one who does everything the right way. He says

1085
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 3: all the right things. He's the leader of the team,

1086
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 3: he's the leader of the offense. His teammates game to

1087
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 3: see for a reason. Now it's time to pay him

1088
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: for the exactly that you're asking to be. And now

1089
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: it's a problem. That's what we're doing. Yeah, that's what

1090
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: it says.

1091
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: Mean please, I think, uh man, I think thirty million

1092
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: is probably what I think. The thirtieth is their their

1093
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: drop dead number, because that's where that's where Tyreek is

1094
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: ask pull up the top ten, pull up the other receivers.

1095
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter said he thinks Terry McLaurin wants considerably more

1096
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: than DK got, which was thirty three million per year,

1097
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: So considerably, boy is gonna be thirty five, thirty six,

1098
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: thirty seven.

1099
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: Damn listen. Sometimes you gotta you got, you gotta shoot high.

1100
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: You gotta shoot high and fast. Somewhere you know, find

1101
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 3: a happy median.

1102
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: I like it. Shoot for the stars. If you're laying

1103
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: on the moon, you're still pretty damn hot.

1104
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 3: You'd be happy. I don't like the fact that the

1105
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: players are missing training camp. I don't like it because

1106
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: you got you get. You need that time to be

1107
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: getting pushed and shoved and getting acclimated to the speed

1108
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: of the game, you know, catch.

1109
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: Catching, Okay, oh Joe, here we are right here.

1110
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: Jamar chases at forty forty zero point two five, Jetta

1111
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: thirty five, c D thirty four, DK thirty three, Garrett

1112
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: Wilson thirty two, A J thirty two.

1113
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: I'm and Ross Saint.

1114
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: Brown thirty, Brandon Ayu thirty Tyreek Hill thirty, T. Higgins

1115
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight seven fifty.

1116
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty two and a half. I'm gonna say that again,

1117
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 3: thirty two and a half. Anything anything below that is disrespectful.

1118
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 3: Put the numbers up, pulling, pulling numbers up. See they.

1119
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: You got them on your did you see? Can you

1120
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: see them now?

1121
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 3: The numbers? No? No, but listen, listen, listen. Anything below

1122
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 3: that and disrespectful, pull the numbers up. See. I need

1123
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: to be I need to be some of the I

1124
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 3: need to be assistant to some of these agents when

1125
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 3: the time for these receivers get paid. Because not only

1126
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: am Ina pulling numbers up, not only I'm gonna pull

1127
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 3: the numbers in the marketing where everybody getting paid I'm

1128
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 3: also walking there with the goddamn film. I'm not sure

1129
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 3: what y'all been watching.

1130
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: So thirty two and a half will put him at

1131
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson Field times paid fil paid.

1132
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 3: See, Okay, it's not it's not outrageous, it's not too low,

1133
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: it's right in the middle, and it's not disrespectful.

1134
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: He won't. He won't considerably more than thirty three boom.

1135
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: He was shooting for the stars. If I fall low,

1136
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 3: I want to fall to the thirty two and a half.

1137
01:03:59,360 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: I think you go for.

1138
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 3: No no. See, I need to be in the rooms.

1139
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

1140
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: I need to be in the rules when it's time

1141
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 3: for receivers to negotiate. I think the owners and whoever

1142
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: does the numbers and the books, they forgetting what you did. Man,

1143
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm coming there with the film. I'm coming there with

1144
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 3: the film. Forget what you talk about. Let me show

1145
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: you why my client deserves we'll be asking for. Let

1146
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: me show you why. Play by play, I'm gonna have

1147
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 3: all this catches and touchdown broken down thirty two and

1148
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: a half. Let me show you why thirty two and

1149
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: a half down in distance, different scenarios. Remember this man,

1150
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: stop playing man? What I'm the right listen, I'm the

1151
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: right one to have when it comes to negotiation and

1152
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 3: getting somebody paid.

1153
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree with you, Jo.

1154
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't think thirty two and a half is outrageous. Uh,

1155
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: But I think I think he's gonna fall somewhere. I

1156
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be you know, And I said be

1157
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: cause remember Waddle and remember I said I went twenty

1158
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: eight to half, that twenty eight to a half. So

1159
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna follow that twenty eight to a

1160
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: half to thirty two. That's gonna be the range. And

1161
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be too happy with that.

1162
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you because what happens is is that you

1163
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: don't want to be You don't want to come behind

1164
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: a guy, Ojo. When the guy got thirty two and

1165
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: a half, and then you come behind him, you get

1166
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: thirty one, but you get thirty because now you stunded

1167
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: the growth of the wide receiver.

1168
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: Now I get it.

1169
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: You look at Gary Willison, Gary Willison say, hey, thirty

1170
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: two to five considering where I was, I'm cool with that.

1171
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: And right now I can't match the production of CD,

1172
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: Jetta and Chase, so I can't go up there wan

1173
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: and say, hey, y'all need y'all need to break me

1174
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: off like that because Jella is on some history.

1175
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: Yes, that Chase is on some history.

1176
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 3: There's levels to everything.

1177
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: Level yes, so that's what And so when you look

1178
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: at it like that. But I get with Terry McLaurin says, oh,

1179
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: no know, bro, Look, hey, y'all need to break me off.

1180
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: Thirty two and a half. That's it. That's it.

1181
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 2: Okay, thirty two and a half, thirty don't pay him.

1182
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 3: Thirty two and a half. I'm gonna go off on management.

1183
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 3: I don't know where, but they gonna hear me. They're

1184
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 3: gonna they gonna hear me. They're gonna