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Speaker 1: Here we go. We are live in Los Angeles. It

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Speaker 1: is Super Bowl Week? Is that Sam Darnold going to

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Speaker 1: another Super Bowl? Welcome Inn, It's the Herd. Wherever you

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Speaker 1: may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making

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Speaker 1: us part of your day. It's going to be back

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Speaker 1: in LA. So this is the one week of the

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Speaker 1: year where people come up to me because I've been

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Speaker 1: a public figure for a while and everybody asks me

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Speaker 1: the exact same question, who do you like in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? And I've given the exact same answer to

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Speaker 1: every Well, Seattle's the better team. But I think I

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Speaker 1: just saw a headline this morning, Sam Darnold the favorite

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Speaker 1: to it win MVP. Seattle is going to be the

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Speaker 1: only team talked about for the next six seven days.

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Speaker 1: Even though New England was number two in scoring, number

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Speaker 1: People are talking about it like it's going to be

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Speaker 1: people stopped watching them play. They were a lot of

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Speaker 1: one o'clock Eastern windows. And I remember what I kept

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Speaker 1: saying when they lost early. J Mack was crushing me

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Speaker 1: and I said, you guys, you have to slow play

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Speaker 1: this team. Fifteen new starters. They have to break it

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Speaker 1: before they rebuild it if they were a mess. I

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Speaker 1: love their draft. They're gonna have fifty new starters check

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Speaker 1: back late October early November, then we can evaluate them.

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Speaker 1: So starting Sunday, September eighth, they go and play Carolina,

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Speaker 1: a team that could have beaten the LA Rams twice,

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Speaker 1: and they crush Carolina. Playoff, Carolina blow their doors off.

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Speaker 1: And I want to remind you, yes, their schedule. When

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Speaker 1: you look at New England's schedule, it's almost worthy of

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Speaker 1: just to give you an example. It was the easiest

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Speaker 1: last ten Super Bowl champs have had a top ten

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Speaker 1: easiest schedule. This is not college football style. Points matter

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Speaker 1: back and look at teams who had top ten easy schedules.

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty four Eagles, the Chiefs before them, the

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Speaker 1: will be their third team with an easiest schedule. That's

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Speaker 1: what happens when you play the Dolphins of the Jets

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Speaker 1: I will admit New England has played eleven teams or

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Speaker 1: outrageously anemic. They faced eleven games where a team fired

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Speaker 1: a coach. And yes, I'll admit they beat the Chargers convincingly,

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Speaker 1: the end of September, when all the free agents and rookies,

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Speaker 1: there was a certain symmetry. They'd played together for a month.

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Speaker 1: They've won sixteen of seventeen games. Sixteen of seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: Head coach, a coordinator, a defense, a scoring output, a ownership,

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Speaker 1: be in the Super Bowl. Here's Mike Vrabel on why

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Speaker 1: they're wearing the all white uniforms in the game.

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Speaker 2: For the home team.

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Speaker 3: We get to choose, and guys like the white uniforms, so.

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Speaker 4: So there we go.

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Speaker 3: I hope the Truth Fairy comes to night too, will

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Speaker 3: be really excited.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, yesterday Knicks Lakers played and it's interesting. The Knicks

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Speaker 1: a six game winning streak. I actually think the next

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Speaker 1: play with almost anybody. They got a new coach, But

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Speaker 1: at thirty one and eighteen, I think they're close, and

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Speaker 1: they've got several players og Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart Michale

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Speaker 1: people would be interested in them. The Lakers are twenty

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Speaker 1: nine to nineteen. Lebron's forty one, and when he and

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Speaker 1: Luca are on the court together this season. They're a

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Speaker 1: minus seventy. They can't play together. Why because something I've

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Speaker 1: been shouting from the beginning of the season. Do not

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Speaker 1: be fooled by the Lakers. The Knicks are not fooling you.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks fired a coach they shouldn't have. They brought

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Speaker 1: him a while to figure it out. The Knicks fans

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Speaker 1: wanted to jump off of one of those you know,

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Speaker 1: those those New York, you know, Midtown buildings. Take a

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Speaker 1: deep breath, new coach. The Knicks have a lot of

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Speaker 1: Og you could that'sright him tomorrow, Mihale Bridges, Josh Hart,

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Speaker 1: The Knicks are not fools Gold. But what you're watching

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Speaker 1: who the three slowest defensive players in the league are?

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Speaker 1: James Harden is number one? Do you know who number

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Speaker 1: In the entire league they have two of the three

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Speaker 1: slowest players. What does that mean? It's roster construction, and

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Speaker 1: when Austin Reeves comes back, it's going to be fools Gold.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers should have watched what Dallas did with Luca.

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Speaker 1: When you have a star player who's a poor defender,

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Speaker 1: Rob Pulink and the Lakers have doubled down on Luca.

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Speaker 1: Just less talented. Austin Reeves, not super athletic, not a

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Speaker 1: great defender, Lebron forty one, slow, can't defend. Oh, let's

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Speaker 1: go get DeAndre Ayton, below average defender. They just keep

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Speaker 1: adding players who are not athletic, fast, quick, and can defend.

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Speaker 1: But when you go back to when Luca succeeded in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: they had Daniel Jones, they had Gafford protecting the rim,

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Speaker 1: got to cover for Luca. And I've said this before

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Speaker 1: about Luca. When he came to the Lakers, I said,

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Speaker 1: stop pretending he's Lebron. Lebron Kobe mj and their prime,

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Speaker 1: These guys gave you maximum defensive effort. D Wade in

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Speaker 1: his prime, Lucas Carmelo a better version. It's never going

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Speaker 1: to be in great shape for any extended period. He's

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Speaker 1: not interested. Defense is a hobby. Sometimes he's into it,

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Speaker 1: and then he loses patience or interest. And so these

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Speaker 1: new owners inherited this Lakers situation. Okay, the next record

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Speaker 1: looks like the Lakers record, but when they play you

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Speaker 1: can see the clear difference. They've got defend. Oh Je's

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Speaker 1: a defender. They by the way, the Knicks realize Jalen

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Speaker 1: Brunson's a below average defender, so they get guys who

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Speaker 1: can defend. Mikhale Bridges, og Josh Hart. It gives you

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Speaker 1: everything he's got. Right, They had the kid de Vincenza, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, done a great defender, great effort player,

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Speaker 1: but they had to eventually move off him. Another great

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Speaker 1: tough guy. So I'm watching this yesterday and it's you

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Speaker 1: see the records, and a lot of people would say, well,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers have got it going because they've got the

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Speaker 1: best player Luca. But do the Lakers and the new

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Speaker 1: and Lebron. That's not the answer. That is the opposite

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Speaker 1: of the answer. Here's Lebron after the loss, on playing

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Speaker 5: At the end of day, everything has to come to

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Speaker 5: it's going to be like, I would never play again

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Speaker 5: in Madison Square Garden, I would never play again at

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Speaker 5: certain arenas, I will never play again period. So I mean,

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Speaker 5: at that point, you know, it doesn't matter. You're gonna

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Speaker 5: always miss it. You're gona miss the game in general,

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Speaker 5: So it doesn't This one will always have like a

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Speaker 5: a special place in the journey because it is Madison

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Speaker 1: All right, j Mac, you've probably already made your bets.

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Speaker 1: I usually in a Super Bowl I have a strong

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Speaker 1: comes up today, I'll tell them again Seattle's got the

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Speaker 1: better team. But I think I like know England.

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Speaker 6: I think you just dropped that Patriots stat on the

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Speaker 6: fight coaches. I had to look that up. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: there's no way they have that many opponents. That fired

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Speaker 6: eleven that's insane. I've never heard anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Eleven games the team they played fire their coach.

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Speaker 7: So last year one of us got the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 6: Right, Eagles in a romp, I'll go Seattle by double

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Speaker 1: This Wow, Well you know it'd make me happy. Sam Darnald,

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Speaker 1: of course, Well yeah, I mean I think it's well established.

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Speaker 1: That's my guy.

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Speaker 6: The executives told me you may need to take a

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Speaker 6: day off for the parade.

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Speaker 7: If Sam darna.

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Speaker 6: Wins it, you may need to go and see that

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Speaker 6: bad boy. And I'll be like, I have fine, I'll

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Speaker 6: all down the four.

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Speaker 1: So coming up next, there's one thing. I always thought

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Speaker 1: the Vikings were well run, and then they just unraveled

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings? What did we learn from them firing this

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Speaker 1: bright young GM after they gave him an extension? Right,

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Speaker 6: Let's start with the Raiders. They made big news over

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Speaker 7: There just isn't.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to make a New England leap, No,

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Speaker 6: That division is gonna be very difficult next season. Somebody's

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Speaker 1: I don't feel so. I like Kingsbury. The knock on

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Speaker 1: I don't see him. He's We talk about this all

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Speaker 1: right now? We don't know. And that's the knock on

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury when it gets uncomfortable. He's sort of the opposite

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Speaker 1: of a vraible like he just not he doesn't that's

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Speaker 1: not his personality. And so New York to me, may

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Speaker 1: not be a great fit. He may not be a Northeast,

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Speaker 1: heavily scrutinized, loud media guy.

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Speaker 7: Little more chill, laid back dude much more.

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Speaker 6: He'll have an opportunity to call plays in New York

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Speaker 6: with Jackson Dart and if they go to the Moon

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Speaker 6: with ten wins and make the playoffs, I mean, Kingsbury

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Speaker 6: could be in line for a head coaching job next year.

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Speaker 6: So there is that opportunity. Where are you on Brian Callahan?

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Speaker 6: So he was really good with the Bengals in Burrow goes.

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Speaker 1: To the Titans.

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Speaker 6: I was optimistic. It was a flat out disasson.

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Speaker 1: I mean, another guy that was good at schemes, but

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Speaker 1: not CEO.

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Speaker 6: You read some of the stuff that was coming out

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Speaker 6: of that locker room.

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Speaker 2: It was not good.

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Speaker 1: It was not good. So that's really changed in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Like Vrabel's not a scheme guy, although he's smart enough

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Speaker 1: to be good at schemes, but that's not his go to.

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Speaker 1: Same with the hardballs, they're not scheme guys. So Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: my knock on Shanahan. So let's say when let's say

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Speaker 1: you get the scheme guy right, like Andy Reids a

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Speaker 1: great scheme guy. He's also proven he's a bottom line guy.

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Speaker 1: They're one of the only teams in the league that

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Speaker 1: still has hard practices. Shanahan's a great scheme guy. My

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Speaker 1: knock on him is why doesn't he win coming from behind?

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Speaker 1: More He's stuck to his playsheet and Kyle gets stuck

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Speaker 1: on the play sheet. And they have a bizarre number

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Speaker 1: of comeback wins, bizarrely low. And so we spend so

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Speaker 1: much time. All this guy's schemes are great. McVeigh has

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Speaker 1: good schemes. McVeigh is a culture builder the player. He's

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Speaker 1: hard on the players and simultaneously they love him. So

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Speaker 1: with Kingsbury, they love him, but there's no sense that

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Speaker 1: it's what happens when somebody goes sideways. He just lets

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Speaker 1: it go. I've heard he has a hard time like

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Speaker 1: owning difficult players. That's the job. Now, Jay meck with the.

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Speaker 8: News, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that the.

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Speaker 2: Herd line news.

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Speaker 1: So for years I've said I think Face of the

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Speaker 1: League is overrated. I don't think you need a face

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Speaker 1: of the league in my lifetime, and I've been watching

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Speaker 1: the NBA since nineteen seventy two, there really hasn't been

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Speaker 1: a face of the league. I mean, Magic was, Bird was,

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Speaker 1: Lebron was, Michael was, Staph was, but Tim Duncan was great,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't face of the league. Kareem was great, he

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Speaker 1: was too stoic. He wasn't face of the league. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you need it. It's great when you have it.

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Speaker 1: But one of the reasons I think it's been difficult

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Speaker 1: to create a face of the league over the last

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Speaker 1: ten years. I mean, Steph Curry is still the most

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Speaker 1: popular player today. Number two is probably Lebron and I

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Speaker 1: believe there's a reason for this. The reason is that

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Speaker 1: the NBA over the last fifteen years treated college basketball

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Speaker 1: like an enemy and college basketball is a free marketing platform. Instead,

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Speaker 1: they put their arms around the Witness Protection program, otherwise

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Speaker 1: known as the G League or Ignite G or g

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Speaker 1: Ignite irrelevant nobody. There's never been a single NBA top

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Speaker 1: Jersey Cellar twenty five years out of the G League.

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Speaker 1: It's an arenas you don't want to go to with

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Speaker 1: coaches you've never heard of, in cities that you would

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Speaker 1: hope your car doesn't break down. In the G league's

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Speaker 1: always been overplayed. What the face of the leagues have

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Speaker 1: mostly been guys that we fell in love with. We

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Speaker 1: fell in love with magic. Right now, you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: what about Lebron. He didn't play college. Lebron's arguably the

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Speaker 1: single greatest prospect in league history. But the league's become

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Speaker 1: very European, so we don't watch those players when they're seventeen, eighteen,

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Speaker 1: nineteen and fall in love with them, and then the

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Speaker 1: one and done culture is well, a lot of these

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Speaker 1: guys go to Europe, they go to the G League.

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flag now and I don't know if he's going

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Speaker 1: to be face of the league, but he outplayed and

504
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Speaker 1: dominated Kevin Durant this weekend, and he went to Duke.

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Speaker 1: And the reason we all wanted to watch Cooper Flagh

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Speaker 1: is we watched him in college. We heard about him

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Speaker 1: from Maine. He was one of our guys that went

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Speaker 1: to a Duke, Ura, Kansas or a Yukon. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be face of the league,

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Speaker 1: but I will tell you, for a long period of time,

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Speaker 1: the NBA was anti college basketball. And this is another

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Speaker 1: reminder how valuable college basketball and March is to the NBA.

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Speaker 1: It's where we get introduced. So I've watched Cooper Flag

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Speaker 1: over the last week playing the two most talked about

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Speaker 1: games in the league, and Dallas isn't any good and

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Speaker 1: he just turned nineteen years old. I'm telling you, if

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Speaker 1: he played in the G League, we wouldn't care. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Green was going to change the league. He went to

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Speaker 1: the G League invisible anonymous witness protection. So statistically, if

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Speaker 1: you look at where he is in Jersey sales and

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Speaker 1: where where he is in numbers, you know whoever reminds

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Speaker 1: people of MJ and Bird. By the way, I'm old enough.

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Speaker 1: I fell in love with Bird at college Indiana State Sycamores. MJ.

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Speaker 1: I fell in love with him at Carolina. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying everybody has to come from that route, but there

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Speaker 1: is such incredible value of embracing college basketball. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's shocking that Cooper Flag went to Duke

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Speaker 1: and the kid at Charlotte. His roommate went to Duke

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Speaker 1: and this draft the first eleven players they all played.

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Speaker 1: I think ten of eleven played college basketball. So and

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Speaker 1: his team's bad. But this is the second time in

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Speaker 1: the week we've talked about Cooper Flag and you know, people,

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Speaker 1: it's Jason Kids, one of the all time great point guards.

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Speaker 1: He's gotten a lot of flak on playing Cooper Flag,

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Speaker 1: who's like six nine and a half at point guard,

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Speaker 1: and he talked about it this weekend.

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Speaker 9: That's how he's built. He's built to win. He's going

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Speaker 9: to try to do everything to help his team win.

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Speaker 9: And he's done that, you know, all season. And so

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Speaker 9: I've built players, so I know what I'm doing. So

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Speaker 9: to take criticism it only makes me better because if

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Speaker 9: I wasn't doing it right, you guys wouldn't be poking

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Speaker 9: holes at what I've done.

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Speaker 1: So Mark Few was recently quoted saying, the best path

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Speaker 1: to the NBA is college basketball, better coaching. You go

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Speaker 1: to a college campus and you're surrounded by people you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't normally be surrounded by. It's a little uncomfortable. The

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Speaker 1: crowds are electric when you're playing, when you're playing at

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Speaker 1: Carolina or Kansas or how do you watch the Michigan

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Speaker 1: Michigan State game. When you're playing games like that and

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Speaker 1: the intensity of the crowd, that's like NBA basketball. The

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Speaker 1: G League's not. The G League is just you know,

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Speaker 1: Gym's with nobody in him. So I think Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be facing the league,

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Speaker 1: but I think I look at the last two draft,

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Speaker 1: I look at this draft coming up. The Peterson kit

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Speaker 1: at Kansas, especially college basketball is backed. The domestic star

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00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: is back. There's nothing wrong with international players, but most

559
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Speaker 1: of them don't really have an interest in dealing with

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Speaker 1: the media selling shoes. That's not who they are. They

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Speaker 1: want to hoop it and go back, you know, to Europe.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is a tremendous, tremendous week for

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Speaker 1: the NBA on what Cooper Flag is doing. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not somebody who just started ranting on this. I said

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Speaker 1: it for years. You couldn't get me to watch a

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Speaker 1: G League game. If my car broke down and it

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Speaker 1: was right next to the gas station, I wouldn't watch

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Speaker 1: the game. And I like basketball. I don't care Duke's on.

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Speaker 1: Every time Duke's on, and the games at Cameron Indoor

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Speaker 1: every single time, or a Michigan State is at home

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Speaker 1: and there's a big game and it's on my TV,

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Speaker 1: I stop and watch it. That's how I get introduced

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Speaker 1: to all these guys. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top of

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Speaker 1: Next Hour, and the NFL made a tweet because it's

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Speaker 1: what they do, and it again paid off.

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Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 1: How'd you like the NBC NBA coverage? How'd you like that?

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Speaker 7: I thought that was spectacular yesterday. Ye, two really good games.

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Speaker 1: They went old school, old school. Yeah. I got Costas

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Speaker 1: doing the you know, the monologue, the narrative to start,

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Speaker 1: got you fired up? Yeah, and they you know, we

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Speaker 1: already know the Michael Jordan stuff. So I sound critical

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Speaker 1: of the NBA. I love NBA playoff basketball. I have

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Speaker 1: said for a long time I think the NBA has

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Speaker 1: an issue. I'll give you an example. I saw a

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Speaker 1: story so and this is pretty instructive. So the NFL

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Speaker 1: seventy four percent of NFL kickoffs will return this year.

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Speaker 1: Last year it was thirty two percent. So the NFL

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Speaker 1: tweaked pats. They said it's boring. They keep tweaking the kickoff.

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Speaker 1: So the strength of the NFL, well they only play

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Speaker 1: once a week. Well college football only plays once a

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Speaker 1: week and it's not half as popular as the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, college football couldn't figure out their playoff until

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Speaker 1: the network stepped in. The NFL does such a great

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Speaker 1: job of tweaking their product. It can be the catch rule,

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Speaker 1: the pat, the kickoff, and I really appreciate this. They're

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Speaker 1: not arrogant, even though it's the dominant number one TV

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Speaker 1: show in America for twenty five years running. They're never arrogant.

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Speaker 1: They're not one of the you know, this is not

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Speaker 1: like oh, people like get they stop paying attention and

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Speaker 1: they'll give you an example. So baseball, and maybe it's

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Speaker 1: the people that cover it are a little precious times.

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Speaker 1: Baseball can be a little Northeast and a little snooty

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Speaker 1: and a little high minded. They got so arrogant for

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Speaker 1: thirty years. And that's why I've defended Rob Manfred, the commissioner.

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Speaker 1: He's like, we're speeding up the game with a pitch clock.

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Speaker 1: Go try and watch a baseball game from seven years ago.

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Speaker 1: It's unwatchable. The game was so slow I could not

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Speaker 1: get through three innings. I watched baseball games all summer

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Speaker 1: in the last two years. The playoffs have been unbelievable, gripping.

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Speaker 1: I've watched more baseball than NBA in the last two years.

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00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: Why because they kept they Rob Manfred came in and

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Speaker 1: all the tweaks have worked, all of them. They don't

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Speaker 1: listen to traditionalists, they're going to be watching. Don't listen

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Speaker 1: to baseball. Traditionalists get watchable. So I've said this about

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and this is why the NBC's coverage is interesting.

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Speaker 1: So NBC is bringing back people from a bygone hero

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Speaker 1: Why because that's when you love the NBA. And one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons you love the Pistons and the Bulls

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Speaker 1: and the Lakers because of the physicality. Why because it

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00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: was a mid range game. So remember the playoffs this

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Speaker 1: past year. Jamack and I were really into the playoffs

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Speaker 1: that were very physical. Why because in the playoffs the

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Speaker 1: games get more physical, the ref swallow the whistle. We

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Speaker 1: love that physicality. We love when players care because be honest,

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Speaker 1: if you're playing a basketball game at the WHY or

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, and you're on my you know what,

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Speaker 1: you're bumping me and I'm pissed off. That's better competition

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Speaker 1: than me coming down and jacking a three. So the

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Speaker 1: NBA has a very repetitive problem. The three point shot

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Speaker 1: eliminates a lot of physicality, gets very repetitive. So this

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00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: is a super athletic league. I can shoot it three,

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Speaker 1: that's not athletic. Athleticism is a crossover finishing at the rim,

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Speaker 1: that's athletic. So I've had this theory is that even

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Speaker 1: though we looked at baseball as stuck in the past,

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Speaker 1: they made six very progressive moves. They've all paid off.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is constantly tweaking. You see this year's kickoff.

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Speaker 1: So I've always said in basketball, you can keep giving

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Speaker 1: me reasons that the NBA is not popular. It's that

646
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: Barkley show. They're too critical, it's too international. But yet

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Speaker 1: we loved the playoffs because it was physical and it

648
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: wasn't repetitive. Because everybody's mid range games. You're my, any

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Speaker 1: great NBA player has a different mid range game. A

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00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: three's a three, I catch and shoot shoot it. They

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Speaker 1: all look the same. So I've always had a belief

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Speaker 1: on what the NBA's got to do one major tweak.

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Speaker 1: They think it's the NBA Cup. That ain't it. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've told you before here Now it's not that different.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to the radio audience. The minute the three

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: point shot goes into the corner, it's you can't defend it,

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Speaker 1: and so teams cater to it. We have had listen

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Speaker 1: to this. The staff went and found this this morning.

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Speaker 6: That's my shot, you know in basketball, the corner three.

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Speaker 6: It's it's the best shot in basketball.

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Speaker 1: Especially for short guys who can't play. So that would

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Speaker 1: be the shot you would take.

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Speaker 6: Well, chet Holgreen lines up and he's six eleven to

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Speaker 6: shoot him.

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Speaker 1: Miss eliminate that. What does it do? It's easier to

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Speaker 1: defend the three because you've eliminated the corner three. What

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Speaker 1: does that mean? I'm gonna try to beat you off

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Speaker 1: the dribble and get closer to the basket. So this

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Speaker 1: does two things that are harmful. It takes centers away

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Speaker 1: from the basket. Those are collisions. I want those collisions.

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Speaker 1: Centers have to go guard the corner. It takes chet

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Speaker 1: Holmegron and Wemby out of the paint. I want him

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Speaker 1: in the paint. I want a guy going right at

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Speaker 1: Wemby and Duncan on him. You ever notice when you

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Speaker 1: show highlights of the NBA, how often it's Jordan jamming

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Speaker 1: over you ing. It's not threes, it's all those physical plays.

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00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: Jordan's pushed, Jordan dunking, running for the ball. That's what

678
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: people love. This is not soccer with flopping. We like physicality.

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Speaker 1: So if you eliminate the corner three, it makes the

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Speaker 1: other threes easier to defend. Right, then the three point

681
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Speaker 1: shooters don't get the as many easy looks. You have

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Speaker 1: to take people off the dribble, drive to the basket.

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Speaker 1: That's where physicality ensues, collisions ensued, more dunks at the rim,

684
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Speaker 1: more animosity, a few more fights. I mean, say what

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Speaker 1: you want. People like the bench is clear, that's okay

686
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Speaker 1: once a week. I don't want malice in the palace.

687
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Speaker 1: But I miss the physicality. So what's funny to me

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Speaker 1: is baseball was seen as a sport that was set

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Speaker 1: in its ways. They made six brilliant moves. Basketball's always

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Speaker 1: been seen as the progressive sport, almost liberal, and they're stuck.

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Speaker 1: They won't tweak the three point shot. Listen to this,

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Speaker 1: hold on, I gotta find this number. I can't even

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Speaker 1: believe this number.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the analytics say the corner three is one

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Speaker 6: of the best shots in basketball because it space is

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Speaker 6: the floor.

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Speaker 1: Oh great, great, last year three hundred and ninety games,

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Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety games, there were eighty or more threes.

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Speaker 1: A decade ago. One wasn't a decade ago the time

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Speaker 1: we loved the NBA well, when we were watching the

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Speaker 1: dynasty with the Warriors, and isn't that funny Cavs three

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty games, eighty or more threes. So you're taking

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Speaker 1: the most athletic league and you're making it unathletic. Anybody

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Speaker 1: can come up the court, catch and shoot a three.

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Speaker 7: That's a big one.

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Speaker 6: Taking away the corner three. I will say your point

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Speaker 6: about the physicality. One thing that hurt the NBA last

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Speaker 6: year with the playoffs is because you don't call a

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Speaker 6: lot of fowls during the season, and then all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden in the playoffs you're doing the opposite.

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Speaker 7: It's like, well, wait, aute, what are we doing. There

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Speaker 7: was no like a now that, hey, we're gonna call it.

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Speaker 1: The NBA gonna let it go. They didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: There's always a reason men win in the postseason. Young

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Speaker 1: men win a lot in the regular season because men

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Speaker 1: in the postseason they swallow the whistle. So it's the bigger, stronger,

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Speaker 1: more physical players that win in May and June. The

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Speaker 1: kids Jalen Green will have great games in January. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: calling anything right or they are calling things. When you

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Speaker 1: get to the postseason, it becomes physical. The ratings go up,

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Speaker 1: and the older players and the mid range game has

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Speaker 1: more value. I know people get bored with me talking

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Speaker 1: about this, but I'm watching all these tweaks in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and I'm watching all these tweaks in baseball, and the

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Speaker 1: ratings are through the roof, and might take his basketball.

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Speaker 1: You're the progressive league, You're the athletic league. Tweak your game.

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Speaker 1: NFL did with the kickoffs, literally doubled the number of

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Speaker 1: kickoff returns to

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Speaker 7: Get pays to get it.