1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: What's up its way up with Angela Yee and we 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: have a legend and a legend in the making here 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: with me today. We got Tretch from Naughty by Nature 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: and we got money X all the way up and listen. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: So glad you guys are here, because I'm gonna tell 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: you I have a pack schedule. But I was like, oh, 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: they want to come up, I'll come to work early 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: and let's make this interview happen. I feel like we 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: have like history because and you may not even know this, 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: but when I was young, I lived in Brooklyn. We 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: moved to Jersey to South Orange, which is very different 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: than East Orange, but to South Orange. And when I 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: was in tenth grade, and when I moved there, Naughty 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: by Nature was like the biggest group on the planet. 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: And I just remember like it was every house party 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: taking over and guys showing up a machetes everywhere. 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I remember Boogie Land, Oh my gosh, 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: pool and everything. I was in Orange right there on 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: the border. 20 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that was a block away from where my 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: parents lived. Kg's house. He used to have the cookouts. 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: We were young. We climbed over the gate. We were 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: in those parties. 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: You were sneaking in you bot Brooklyn all with you 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: the Jersey listen. 26 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: I had to walk down the block and then me 27 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: and my friends it was like three of us. It's 28 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: our girls, so and we would just like go to 29 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: the back there was like a little side gate and 30 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: hop over the gate and just smooth our clothes out 31 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: and then act like we've been there. And I was like, 32 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: come on. 33 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: Wow, y'all here this see. 34 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: I told you see, it gets way up up there. 35 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: I tell you, that's crazy. 36 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: But it was actually coming from Brooklyn. I had never 37 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: really been to Jersey as a kid, so, you know, 38 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: people from New York, even though we're right next to 39 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: each other, we used to have like this perception that 40 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: it was so suburban and it was going to be like, 41 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: you know, just beautiful, big mansions. 42 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: I was. 43 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: I cried like for days when we first moved because 44 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: it just felt like another planet. 45 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: You was over there in the burbs. Yeah, you would 46 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: have came down the East Stars ill ted breaking those 47 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: like there's a hood here. 48 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, New York is. 49 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Right next door to yeah Newark, East Orange Orange is 50 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: right there too. But yeah, so that was a great 51 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: time for me as a kid though, because the other 52 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: thing about New Jersey is everybody drives, and in New 53 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: York we just take the train everywhere, so it was 54 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: actually nice to be in cars. That's probably the only 55 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: reason I got my license at a young age, and. 56 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: Half the cause in Jersey it was stolen that we 57 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: got it. 58 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: At that time. 59 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: At that time that used to say, didn't you to 60 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: tell us do not stop at the red lights, NA 61 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: right at night? Just keep going, like, look around, make 62 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: sure no cars are coming, and go right through the 63 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: red light because you don't know what's going to happen 64 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: that far. But I just want to talk about putting 65 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: Jersey on the map because money X, you're from Jersey City, 66 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: chill Town, chill Town. Now, how long did you know 67 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: that you wanted to do music, because that's also a 68 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: lot of pressure being in this family and being Trench's nephew. 69 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: Since I was fifteen, I always wanted I love music, 70 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: I'm very versatile, do everything and make old genres. 71 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: I just knew I could do it, okay. 72 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: And so what was the first experience like for you, 73 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: like going in the studio to record and is it 74 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: intimidating coming from a musical family, No, it wasn't. 75 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 4: It really started like I've been to I had it emmy, 76 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: but I really once once once I get in trouble, 77 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: getting locked up and stuff, and then I came home, 78 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: I really started to take it serious. And I just 79 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: sitting in there, just in the cell, just focusing right 80 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: into my path and just you know, paying anything together. 81 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: Now, where'd you go to jail for? 82 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: I was locked up, you know as a kid robberies 83 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: and stuff. But then I just came home. I just 84 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: did five years for attempt. 85 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: But welcome home, thank you, you know. And now it's 86 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: time for you to switch all of that around because 87 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: it's too much at stake, you know, but seriously, because 88 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: at a certain time, that's what's supposed to happen when 89 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: you get locked up, where you say I'm never doing 90 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: this again. Let me be serious about what I need 91 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: to do so that this doesn't happen anymore. 92 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: And we're seeing like when he came home, what he 93 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: said he was going to do and switching his life around. 94 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: He stuck to it. 95 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: You know. 96 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: We see a lot come home. They be there for 97 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: a minute, finished a probation. Dude right back out there. 98 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: He said, I'm sticking to this music doing it everything 99 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: he'd done, like I'm being around and tried to mentor 100 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: a lot. They fell off and kept doing that, so 101 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: I had to disassociate him. He on his dean like 102 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: for real and proud of. 103 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: Them then, plus being in there locked up during COVID, 104 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: it was a lot, so just had time to think, 105 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: let's get anything together and just came home and just 106 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: got to it. 107 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: And then you got the song fire Baby that you 108 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: did that Tretch is also on. So that's like a 109 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: love song. 110 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: It's a little bit about well, I'm actually I'm just 111 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: this video. 112 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: I'm on the album, on the album I have directed, 113 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: I did a little trench Tarantino, So tell tell about. 114 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: The love story, what inspired that or who. 115 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: It's just about as a vib it's a little party vibe, 116 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: but it's also about you know, it's just so bad 117 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: you fire baby like you just let me just letting 118 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: the female know, you know, the. 119 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Lingo that's the new fire baby like I can't really 120 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: say no names out there. You know, we down with opp. 121 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: Listen when you think about it, when we go back 122 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: and listen to like a huge like mainstream song like Opp. 123 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: That was like a hit everywhere. That song is about cheating. 124 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they. 125 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: Took them a long time to figure it out. They 126 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: didn't know what we were talking about. 127 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 128 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: Even when the song came out, like they started editing songs, 129 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: I mean words on the record that wasn't even curses 130 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: rhymes with cleanness and meanness, it was what is this song? 131 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: By the time they figured it out, and it was 132 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: already added everywhere platinum, So it was like, Yo, they 133 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: slipped a mickey that they talk about this the whole time. 134 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: Yep, gotcha. 135 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: Everybody was at the T shirts and listens the Naughty 136 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: by Nature store that was? Was that in Newark? 137 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 138 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: That was in Newark? Man, let me tell you, everybody 139 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: wanted the pillowcases that was. That was one of the 140 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: first of its kind type of situations. Did anybody else have, 141 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: like any other hip hop group have an actual store 142 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: before that? Because I remember you had a store later on. 143 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll shout out to what I just got finished 144 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: kicking with Ray, he was like, yo, you know you 145 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: know he opened a dismissary and k nook so ye story. 146 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: He was like, we was watching y'all guys, how y'all 147 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: did stuff, But us personally, it was no stores. I 148 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: don't think before us we were following at the Public 149 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: Enemy because Public Enemy when they came out, they had 150 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: like the gear on the sleeves of the albums, you know, 151 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: the cassettes and the albums back then before your time, 152 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 3: it was so they had like the order sheets in there. 153 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: So we was like, yo, we gotta get that going on. 154 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: So it was slower than we expected, and it was 155 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 3: so much the mand It was like, Yo, just open 156 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: the store and mortar. 157 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's phenomenal to even have the foresight to 158 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: do that. Who was running the business then, Okay, yeah, 159 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I still see him running around doing all kinds of business. 160 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. 161 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: Running the merchandise part of the whole thing. So that 162 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: was definitely his brain child on that. 163 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: And y'all recently reunited again, And why do you and 164 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Benny fall out? Get back and fall out? Like what 165 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: is it? Because y'all both individually are so cool. 166 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: I can't It's a business. Certain business. 167 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: Uh you know, it's like I'm I'm I'm great on 168 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: being a team player, but I got respect for everybody 169 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: in the individuality. Like event's doing clothing, I'm gonna backet 170 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: supported boomboo. I ain't going get in that lane. If 171 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: Kate doing production, I'm gonna do that. It's like a 172 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: lot of things with Naughty by Nature came. Always was 173 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: like we're gonna vote on it, but it'll be a 174 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: two to one. 175 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm the one, you know what I'm saying, not the two. 176 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: I'm not the two. 177 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: So it's like it's like I had to you know, 178 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: we cooling everything, but it's just business. It's like we 179 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: were just feeling our way to do our own stuff. 180 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: One day if you get back, to get back, but 181 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: right now we're just doing our individuals. 182 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: But y'all did spontaneously hit the stage. 183 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: I mean, what happened there? What happened was, you know, 184 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: we in the same spot everything else. It was event 185 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: for miss Jones and she's seen us there. A lot 186 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: of artists was there and they was performing for her. 187 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: She said, nor diveld y'all come up here, and it's like, yeah, 188 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: we'll get up and grab them make and do that. 189 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: And another time it was like played out with Latifa 190 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: when she did rock the Bell. 191 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: You can't say, you know that's okay. 192 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: We a mad. 193 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: Today money watching everything that happens with the group because 194 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: groups are sometimes harder. Partnerships are harder because it's not 195 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: just on you. Have you ever said, you know what, 196 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: maybe I want to do a group situation or you know, 197 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: you want to be so loo. 198 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: I mean I always thought about the group situation. I 199 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: actually signing Open Coast Entertainment, so, but I always thought 200 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: about the group situation. But sometimes it always better, you know, 201 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: stay with family and keep it like thathing. 202 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: All right, Now, I want to ask you this too, 203 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: because I told you I seen Queen Latifah at the 204 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nest game. It was actually the day after my birthday. 205 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: I was excited. I was like, oh she they go, 206 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: Queen Latifa. She always got like the coolest, best vibe. 207 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: What I love is the fact that I used to 208 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: see her like as flavor unit with all these guys, 209 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: but she was like a boss. 210 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it was the boss yeah, which. 211 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Was a really dope thing for me as a young 212 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: woman to see that situation. How do you think that affected, 213 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: like even some of the decisions that you made or 214 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: even how you viewed women seeing having a woman that 215 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: was like a boss, because that's kind of a rare 216 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: thing in this music business. 217 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: For us, it was like it was a perfect perfect storm. 218 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: I knew Latifa before even Naughty by Nature when we 219 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: was a new style. First we used saw when I 220 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: was a solo artist. Used to always do the local 221 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: talent shows and stuff, so always seen out there and 222 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: everything else. When what broke it is like they started 223 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: flavorwing the management when she. 224 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: Came out with Wrath of My Men and all of that. 225 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: So she was rapping, but they had their own management company, 226 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: Hunshot Ca. So it was so just different on a 227 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: business level because we knew each other and was friends. 228 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: Then came into the business. 229 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: She was like like the head of the charge and 230 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: it was like fun to us because it was like 231 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: everybody was on lie and everybody knew her, but they 232 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: was like, who this girl with these thirty forty. 233 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: Homies coming up in here and no, yo, that's Flavor 234 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: and that's Jersey boom boom bom bom boom. 235 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: And it was just like Live was always the you know, 236 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 3: the sensible mind of everything we was wilding anything else. 237 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: She'll be the one yo yo, y'all gotta chill and 238 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: she will teach us the whole game while we're doing 239 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: She's not just going to be like I'm managing. She's like, look, 240 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 3: come here, look at his paperwork, Look. 241 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: How this is front. 242 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: Come with me here, just in a meeting, just on 243 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: a baserse, if it's a dinner, sitting at a table, 244 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: and just being a sponge and getting all that knowledge. 245 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: So it was never like I'm the boss and y'all 246 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: gonna do this and that we was like, yo, she's 247 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: dropping jews and teaching us along the way. So she 248 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: never was running the flame, you know, like a dictatorship boy, 249 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: y'all better do this or y'all can't do that. She 250 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 3: was like, do y'all, but know it's consequences if you 251 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: do things the wrong way, and if you do things 252 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 3: the right way, look at us, you feel. 253 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: Me, yeah, because it's being a woman in this business 254 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: member walk in the room, they automatically think you're an 255 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: assistant or they don't look at you as a boss. 256 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: And so for me in the music, she was like 257 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: one of the first, one of the early on. You know, 258 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: obviously they was like Sugarhill Gang, and but she was 259 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: one of the early on, like real like I got. 260 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, female bosses. 261 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: She was there and like I said, She gave everybody 262 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: mutual respect and love. So you it never was like 263 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: that's our boss, that's our homie, but you knew never 264 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: to cross the line. And she was just dropping so 265 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: so much knowledge and jews on us. Yo, all hell 266 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: of queen she did that. So I just think like 267 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: she really was one that opened the doors to show 268 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: a lot of females like, oh yeah, you can be 269 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: running your own companies. You can be out here in 270 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: this industry and you could do it the right way. 271 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: You don't see nobody running around like yo. 272 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: A lot did as we had to go to court. 273 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: We had to fight for this. We had to yeo. 274 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: I did the business a whole different way than business 275 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: was being done lover her. 276 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: And she was one of the people that was like, 277 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: you need to act also because she was doing her 278 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: acting thing early on and you that's how you ended 279 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: up thought about acting. 280 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: Never she was like, yo, you listen, this hip hop 281 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: thing rapping might not last forever. Or you want to 282 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: do something else. You gotta do different stuff. You gotta invest, 283 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: you gotta boom, you gotta go to this reading. I'm like, 284 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: what's a reading? I could read something and. 285 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: She's like, yo, for a movie, I said, movies, I said, 286 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: I So. 287 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: I was going into readings, not even know nothing about 288 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: it at all, but I was there, and just by 289 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: chance being there, I right. I met Tupac earlier on 290 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: the road with Latifa. They were with Digital Underground. I was, 291 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: he was with Digital. I was with Latifa before we 292 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: even came out with records. So when we actually done 293 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: with the tour, Pop went in and read for Juice. 294 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: I went. He had a background and acting in school 295 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: and everything else, so he actually got the role. I didn't. 296 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: But when I knew him, he was like, Yo, I'm 297 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: in New York for like two months doing this movie. 298 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: Come stay with me. I'm gonna get you in this movie. 299 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: An extra. I'm like, word packed up, got me in 300 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: the movie. 301 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: But New Jersey was right there, but you were like, 302 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm a just stay No. 303 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: Park was like, come state me him at Love would 304 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: be there, Big Stretch Rest in Peace from the Live Squad. 305 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: Moprim is brother Yaqui Kadafi, his little brother. All in 306 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: his hotel room. He wanted his whole like. 307 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: Back then its part you know what I'm saying. 308 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: He had his big main room to be in the 309 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: back and we all was sleeping on the floor on 310 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: the couch. 311 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: That probably was so much fun. That should have been 312 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: now if that was a time when people had cameras 313 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: and that would have been a movie. 314 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what was that like? 315 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: For two months being in there, that was like. 316 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: It was like a straight up like a tour bus 317 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: with no wheels. You know how you're getting the tour bus. 318 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: It's the best thing ever. It ain't no plane, ain't nothing. 319 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 3: They know, it's a whole tour. 320 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: You just family, yo, family, You're doing everything up in there. 321 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: And then you in New York, right, so you walk 322 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: right outside you in the city, we like uptown, downtown Brooklyn, 323 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: were going to the everywhere mixtapes, getting stuffed radios in 324 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: the hotels. 325 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: Yo. 326 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: It was like that time will never be recreated, never never, 327 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: you know. Sorry, it's just you know. 328 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, no smartphones no where. Everybody's sitting around on everybody was. 329 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: Kicking it with you go out, everybody's on their phone, 330 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: like you look up, you. 331 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: Like, damn, can y'all put you people walking down the 332 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: street on their phone into each other. 333 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: People act like they can't live without a phone. Just 334 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: think about back then, like what did we do We 335 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: didn't have uber. We couldn't order food like that. We 336 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: couldn't just caught somebody. You have to leave a message 337 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: on a answer two way page. 338 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: You have to go to the phone booth, put quarters in, 339 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: call somebody, no GPS, y'all get the block without It's like, yo, 340 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: we had to figure out way anything else gets. 341 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we was in a whole different era. 342 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: You know. 343 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: It's funny. I remember when when I first moved to Jersey. 344 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Momentarily my dad kicked me out the house, right, but 345 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to get back to New York. 346 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: I had to get back to Brooklyn. I didn't know 347 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: anybody in New Jersey had just moved there. And I 348 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: remember taking going down and like figuring out how to 349 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: get on the bus at the bus that goes to 350 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Penn Station. 351 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: Oh, you had to go to Your father really threw 352 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: you out, No, he really did. 353 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: He was like, you gotta go and so and But 354 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: it was cool. But it was like I didn't know, 355 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: like we were just going. I was just going places, 356 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: not knowing what I was doing. Like people would be like, oh, 357 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: I can't believe you did that. That's dangerous. I just 358 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: think about as kids, like when we first got our licenses. 359 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: We used to drive up and down Central av and 360 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: the Peppermint was right there. We were too young to 361 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: go in anywhere. 362 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: But we rob out the spots hot spots. 363 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: Always out side And to me, havn't spent that time 364 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Was It really helped me a lot, 365 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, just as far as the culture was, just 366 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: even though they're so close to each other, and y'all 367 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: had this song Sleeping on Jersey, and I was like, 368 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: y'all don't understand, like my friends from New York used 369 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: to love to come to Jersey and like experience those things. 370 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: Because we didn't have that. We couldn't drive and be 371 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: outside the club at the letout, you know. We had 372 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: to take the train everywhere, and it was just a 373 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: fun vibe. Just like y'all would meet people pull over, 374 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, the guys would always be like, pull over, 375 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: let's talk. It was just a different type of situation. 376 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: Dan. 377 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: They needed to pull over anyway because you needed directions, right, 378 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: I had a map, but remember. 379 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: There was a white castle, I think it was unfreelanmized. 380 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: And the stolen cars, you said, oh yeah, you and 381 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: the cops would chase these stolen cars. I mean it 382 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: was a wild time, and they. 383 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: Used to wait for the cops to come and. 384 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Then and then skirt off, and then they would come 385 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: back and drive back around. It was like a show, 386 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: and everybody would literally be outside watching this like it 387 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: was entertainment. Isn't that crazy? Crazy the things that happened 388 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: like growing up. 389 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go the craziest video Naughty by Nature, 390 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: the craziest sell we. 391 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: Had actual camp quarter of footage of the stolen cars. 392 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: One car had a police stolen head. Sovereign put out 393 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: the window waiting for the cops to come, and then. 394 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: It was a wild time. Yeah, you know, I always 395 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: felt like the first album that you guys did, the 396 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: Naughty by Nature album, I feel like people need to 397 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: list that as one of like the top classic albums 398 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: of all time. Appreciate you because that really literally had 399 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: no skips. Now I got to ask you money at 400 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: your how old are you now? Are you familiar with 401 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: like all of this music? Okay? Because I feel like 402 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: sometimes kids, heyod, they hear things for the first time 403 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, that's dope, Like I never you 404 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: heard that? 405 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, he from chill Town. So you know 406 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: Big Red shout Out, you know, Flavory On. It was 407 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: Jersey City apatche Wrestling, So. 408 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: Who else was from Jersey City? 409 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: Like? 410 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: What a r T? 411 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: Right now? 412 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 3: I'll be out, Okay, I mean, uh Lord Alibaski, double 413 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: j rest in peace, Uh Joe Button's. 414 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: Oh he's some Jersey City Okay, but yeah, okay, all right, 415 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: So y'all got some nice history. 416 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: There, double x posse. 417 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's right. I'm not gonna be able to do it. 418 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: Man. 419 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: That The Jersey vibes though, are so like I want 420 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: to ask you this too, because some of your music 421 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: like obviously everything's gonna be all right. I think that 422 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: was such an emotional song that a lot of people 423 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: connected to and could relate to at this point now 424 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: because I don't know, like after that song because in 425 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: that song, you know, talking about never knowing your dad 426 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: and you know, mother, we can't even say that. But anyway, 427 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: did that ever like spark any you know, meet up 428 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: or him trying to reach out or yeah. 429 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: I actually met up with him. 430 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: Me and my wife did a show, a reality show 431 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: called Couple's Therapy, and they ended up researching they heard 432 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: the story and everything else and found them and brought 433 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: the morning show. So we reconciled all that. Everything else 434 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: was getting the minute, the relationship and all, and he 435 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 3: just wanted them cats. 436 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 2: You know, man, he just he flowed. 437 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: He's a float to POPA was a rolling stone and 438 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: he's still that type. 439 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: Dude. 440 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: If you can't find me and all that, I'm like, yo, homie, 441 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: I done great without you. 442 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: Piece of the gods. 443 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you know, sometimes we don't understand people's stories 444 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: until we actually sit down with them. So do you 445 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: feel like that was a piece that was missing that 446 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: You're grateful that that happened. 447 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, grateful found out everything else man like and like 448 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: hip hop, you know, you could really tell true stories. 449 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: Ghetto Bassa was a true story. We actually got in 450 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: a lot of trouble from the city and all that 451 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 3: and Nork when that video dropped because it showed all 452 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: the projects and a lot of people across the world 453 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 3: it's like it's projects in Jersey hoods in Jersey, you 454 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: slipping and they said what is this? So it actually 455 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: was a great uh clean up point for the city 456 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: as well, because they tore the project down. 457 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: Right, it was embarrassed. Oh wow, show like this. 458 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: Is really this is what you're doing in the Jersey Yeah, 459 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: that's how y'all getting there. 460 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: And it wi And you talked about Ray Kwon having 461 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: his dispensary in new It Isn't it wild to see 462 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: how different downtown downtown Newark it used. 463 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: To look like I rack, it was like a no 464 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: go zone. We got the potential center there. Now, hockey 465 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: teams down there, shout out to Whole Food. 466 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's efficient on every corner. 467 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: Every Jersey City the same thing though. You know, I 468 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: think after nine eleven a lot of businesses moved to 469 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: Jersey City and they really built up, like downtown Jersey 470 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: City and the waterfront and all of that. You know. 471 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: So talk to me about your upbringing in Jersey City. 472 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 4: I'm born to raise dunkin projects growing up there. It's 473 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 4: going to doing my music when I was started at 474 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: fifteen and then out of trouble whatever, but staying focused and. 475 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: From the hood, the hood, telling us front of the project, 476 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: the struggle. 477 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: It was hard growing up everything like I just never thought, 478 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: I you know, when I came home this time after 479 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 4: losing I was in there, little seven family members doing 480 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 4: during the five years I was incarcerated and I just 481 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: being myself, just keep telling myself. I said the only 482 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: thing I needed six months. I just need six months. 483 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: I ain't coming back shout out dunking she do it. 484 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's good because right now, even being do 485 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: you still live in Jersey City. Yes, it's lit. It's 486 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: like people are like, I want to move to Jersey City, 487 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: and I told you I lived there for a little 488 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: while too. I lived downtown though when I first graduated 489 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: from college, it was a good halfway mark from you know, 490 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: South Orens and Brooklyn. So I just randomly said, I'm 491 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: gonna move to Jersey City because it'll make it easy 492 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: for me to go to South Throns, but also easy 493 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: for me to go to the city from there. 494 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 495 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're making like a little mini New York now. 496 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 4: They building in Jernal Square. They got like this little 497 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: Hot Rods building. It's got like one hundred floors and 498 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 4: I'll put that in the middle of the Journal Square. 499 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: So that's crazy. I haven't been to Journal Square in. 500 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: A minute a hundred stories. 501 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Now, you being on TV and even like doing reality television. 502 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: For some reason, I always used to think, like from 503 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: you know, younger days, church would be the type of 504 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: person that would not ever like put his life out there. 505 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: Like no, never, never. 506 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: What happened the first one, Like I said, a couple's therapy. 507 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: You know, been with my wife, We've been together eighteen years. 508 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: So I'm like, yo, she is saagarian too bullheaded everything. 509 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, she like we need therapy. 510 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I ain't not paying no why to 511 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: go up in there and talk And usually they gonna 512 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 3: take the woman's side and. 513 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: All that, but we're usually right, yeah, yeah. 514 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: Done, don don breaking news falls that is flaking fiction, 515 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: flagrantly fiction. 516 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: You get attacked now. But I said, let me figure 517 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: out how we could do this. 518 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: So I started, I'm like going to hit my management 519 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: at the time and everything. I'm like, yo, boom, I'm 520 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: trying to They was like, you know what, you know, 521 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: what's a couple's therapy show that you could actually go 522 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: on and get paid for it. 523 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, I get to take what? 524 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: And then we was ending up, went to Cali, stayed 525 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: in the house with other couples and all that. So 526 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: doctor Jim shaha, she did a great job. And so 527 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: that was like the first taste of reality, the real reality. 528 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: And I was like yeah, to save my relationship, I'll 529 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: go and do that. 530 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: So your relationship was you feel like like it. 531 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: Needed definitely, definitely, And at the end of it it 532 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 3: looked like it was over for us anyway. But we 533 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: came home and fix it and all that. Thank God, 534 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 3: we you know, we took it in and all that. 535 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: So I was like, Yo, reality shows may be cool. 536 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: So that's when oh lord, my daughter came to me 537 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: Egypt and it was growing up hip hop with my 538 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 3: ex wife as a producer. 539 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: You it sounds like a setup. 540 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: It was, thank you. I didn't have to say it. 541 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 3: So, but I'm like, my daughter's on here, they want 542 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: me on here, blah blah blah. Your mother is a producer. 543 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: All right, let's go. And then that's when I went 544 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 3: on there. I said, I never do reality show again 545 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 3: unless it's my own situation on the show or I'm 546 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: just producing it. 547 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: What about therapy? Do you still continue with therapy or nah? 548 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 3: Nah, I don't. I don't what I did I started. 549 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: I knew I had a problem anger management, so I 550 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: stawted actually because I was on a roll so much 551 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: and everything else and getting books on it. I had 552 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 3: spoke to one person that was a therapist at a 553 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: time and just kicked there was a homies uncle just 554 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: kicked it with him and he was like, yo, if 555 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: you can't do it, try these books and. 556 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: Da da da da dada. 557 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: Okay. 558 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: I did that and it worked. Work. 559 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: What did you learn from your first marriage that you. 560 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: Don't get married? 561 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,239 Speaker 1: I mean everything, even if it doesn't work out, it 562 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: is a learning experience and you got to learn yourself too, 563 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: and things about yourself and things that you want to 564 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: do better next time. 565 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: I mean me, I think it was more or less. 566 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: I learned it wouldn't be compatible for me to marry 567 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: somebody or get serious with somebody in the industry that 568 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 3: traveled just like I did, always out boom boom, boom, 569 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 3: boom boom. And I wanted more of a homebody. I 570 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: wanted more of a because sometimes some women don't come 571 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: my head. Sometimes when they get out there boss and 572 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: they don't boss like Latifa, They boss. 573 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Like a dictator. 574 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 2: Thank you. 575 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: And like I said, James Brown came out, this is 576 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 3: a man's world. It died when he died, so it's 577 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: really a woman's world for really many aspects, right, And 578 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: they out there running y'all out there, running things, turning 579 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: up with the rapping turn whatever. 580 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: Business wise, we have. 581 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: Different challenges you know that. I think men sometimes wouldn't 582 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: understand because you know, how could you how could you 583 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: possibly understand what that what that's like? 584 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: But what age you learned? 585 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 3: Like yeah, me and my wife we was and I'm 586 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: hot at the hottest people at the hot Yeah. 587 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: Like yo, it sounds like a power couple. 588 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: I remember that seeing that and being like, all right, 589 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: power couple. Yeah. 590 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 3: She was powering her way to put the pull pants up. 591 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: She wanted to wear pants and a dress. I'm like, homie, homie, homie, homie, homie, 592 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: let's be here, don't you ain't he Hey? 593 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: She talking to me like a dude. I'm like, yea, yeah, 594 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: I know you. 595 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: For yeah South sidgea Makan queen shout out sn L 596 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 3: something in London. 597 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: That's my squad out there. 598 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: But she did come to your wedding. 599 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so she was invited. 600 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: I tried the men stuff, okay, I mean. 601 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: She kept taking shots and all the rest of that 602 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: through the reality show, these books and all. 603 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: This other, Like yo, you seriously you're still selling them? 604 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: So does that affect your parenting because sometimes when the 605 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: parents don't get along, it affects your relationship. 606 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: Like with your daughter, it did, It did because a 607 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: lot of things was going on. 608 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 3: I felt like like my daughter was fart of set up, 609 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: especially on the show promo when the propaganda her mother 610 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: was doing, and it crushed me. And then she got 611 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: with this dude she married and that you know. 612 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a real crazy storyline. Yeah are they 613 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: still married? 614 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 615 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: Okay, do you ever communicate with them or him? Or well, 616 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: your daughter but not him. That's disappointing to be a 617 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: father and not be in agreeance with who your child marries. 618 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: That's a hard thing. But she's an adult and has 619 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: decisions that she has to make on her. 620 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 3: Own, and that's something else. Like the the reality show 621 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: destroyed that because I became a producer as well, so 622 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: I would hear stuff and see stuff that was filmed 623 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: before would hit the table and like this this homie 624 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 3: said this about me when I'm supporting him and Da 625 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: Da da and Bonhoma. Oh you know, maybe if I 626 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't have seen it, it'd be a different But that's 627 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: why I said that reality show stuff. 628 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: It's real, real reality. 629 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: Now, if money X had an opportunity to be on 630 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: a reality show. Even with all these warnings. 631 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 2: He'll be focused because I'll let him know. 632 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: How to how to play the game. 633 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and know. 634 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: It's a game, and no, don't play the game to 635 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: throw the board off the table. 636 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: Play and win. You know, the music business is so 637 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: different now than when obviously then when you first came 638 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: into the game. So what's the plan now for you? 639 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: Like because it doesn't have to be sign a deal, 640 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: put an album together, promote the album, take a you know, 641 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: it's it's so different now, So what is the plan 642 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: for money X? 643 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: I want to be the all this other I just 644 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: want to want to around the world and tonash you. 645 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: But how does that happen with. 646 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: He's a great listener, so even like if I tell 647 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: him Son the same way, he's a sponge. So he's 648 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: let me tell you, he's going to get in from clothing. 649 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: He's going to get in from whether it's acting or 650 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: entrepreneurial anything. He's going to I'm going to show when 651 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: you get the first bit of money, invest in some 652 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: properties and leg you could tell. 653 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: Them yeah yeah she's one, yeah for sure. And especially 654 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: there's so many opportunities right there for you Jersey City, 655 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: and especially because you're from there too, And I think 656 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: the best way for me to start something is doing 657 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: it somewhere where I'm from. So I'm very familiar with 658 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: what's going on with the value of certain things. But 659 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: how but sometimes it's harder to see it because you're 660 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: from there. You know, people from the outside it's like, oh, 661 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: this is dope. You might be like, I remember what 662 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: this was, but I think it's important. And there's all 663 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: kinds of incentives for people who are born somewhere, residents 664 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: somewhere to be able to invest. 665 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: And what I love, like he always want to go 666 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: and let's go here, let's go to the here list 667 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: And I love it too because it's more of just 668 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: like going to a dinner, going somewhere else. Like before 669 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: it used to be like wies you said, I never 670 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 3: have dinner with the president. You want those political connections, 671 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, even if it's the mayor. 672 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: You know, like do it all shut out to do 673 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: all the first hip hop counselman and nork and all 674 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: of that, like those type of things. 675 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: Before we be. 676 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: Like, nah, we ain't messing with no politicians. And yes, 677 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: you need to all scales of everything. Invest your time 678 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: and your efforts in there and your finances to invest 679 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: in stuff that's out there that's going to make your 680 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: money grow. Where you're not chasing the money, you're setting 681 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: up opportunities where the money come to you. 682 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: Right. No, that's great advice. You got to have all 683 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: of that in order. And when it comes to writing, 684 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: what advice do you give because I know have you 685 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: written for besides Naughty by Nature, other artists ever, like 686 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: goes It. 687 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, easy e, the youngsters, Latifa, you 688 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: know it's it's been. 689 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: The wickedest man alive part on that song. 690 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: No, I wrote like Latifa had it up there and 691 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: oh Latifa got some great pen game. 692 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying. She's a writer as well. 693 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: But in the days wrote some of the stuff A 694 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: Pat used to you know, do that as well. But yeah, 695 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: he has to tell you like the new era, like 696 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: it's a different it's a different it's a different lingo, 697 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: it's a different bp ms everything. So what's your right? 698 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 5: They go, was it congestion prices? 699 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: What's chair? You know? 700 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: Money access? Mayo Jay Yah Yah Yah interview. 701 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: He come in to lead. 702 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: I made O came busting. 703 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: Man. 704 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: Look, oh boy, he had he had to go to 705 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: the dentist. That's some more advice to the dentists. Man. 706 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: I just had two wisdom teeth pulled from the back 707 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: this SI and I'm older than y'all better get I 708 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: had all. 709 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: Four of my wisdom teeth pull on. 710 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? How long was you in paying? 711 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: Though? It actually was not that bad for me? And 712 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy? When I did it was the 713 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: week and we'll talk about this since that we got 714 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: started working for eminem was the week I got all 715 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: four of my wisdom teeth pulled. And I just remember 716 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: we had to go do like this hip hop summit. 717 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: He was looking like Kanye after myf was And you 718 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: know what else was bad about it? 719 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: They put this thing in your mouth to hold your 720 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: mouth open, and I had cuts right here from this 721 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: like metal. 722 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, right right. Yeah. I just feel like 723 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: I need to say that I hate playing that game. 724 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: I hated they got you on that. I hate it. No, 725 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: the besta medicine is not prescribed by the doctor. What 726 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: is that dual advil? So that dual advil that's the 727 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: best thing for that. My wisdom to go through. 728 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm surprised you waited that long to get it done 729 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: because usually you're calling me old know, I'm saying, because 730 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: people newly get their wizard ty pullway. 731 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: Now, I didn't have a problem. They said, don't bother 732 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: and tell it. But I started feeling some type stuff 733 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 3: going on, and then I had some flights that was. 734 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: Coming up in a month. 735 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: I said, I got to do this now because I 736 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: had an abscence one time thirty thousand feet in the air. 737 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: Oh oh no, the air pressure hit. I felt like 738 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: I was going to Cali. 739 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: And I don't think insurance didn't cover it. No, back then, 740 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: you had to pay for let me tell you, I 741 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: got mine done for free because I was working for 742 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: Eminem and the dentist, the oral surgeon. He just wanted 743 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: an autograph picture. I got to did you off that? Yeah? 744 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: I wish I was pretty? I wish I was pretty. 745 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: No, I have an autographed Eminem picture. And that's how 746 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: I got that's. 747 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 2: He wanted to get your. 748 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: Man come in here, and now you want to. 749 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: That's that k we get together? 750 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: Yea, Oh my gosh. But you know what y'all do 751 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: kind of like remind me of each other personality wise. 752 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that game. That is that guy man, 753 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: that god. 754 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: Man for real, like you know, both ladies like ladies man, 755 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: even though I know you're married. But back then church 756 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: was known for that because women like that. And then 757 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: mano is you know, has that persona too. 758 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm married though. All right, yeah, I 759 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 2: feel it's a feeling. 760 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: It's what he feels like. But go on talking about 761 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: your writing process, because that's what it. 762 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: Was, y'all. Y'all, y'all. I had a whole different Yeah, 763 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: I just write. I don't know. I just I'll be 764 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: in my room whatever. 765 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: I'll just be so I put the beat on, I'll 766 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 4: be bouncing all over the place, and like the media 767 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 4: make a song, I just start dropping man stuff down 768 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: and I just start pinning together, like my writing just be. 769 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I remember you said you write hooks first. 770 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: It depends sometimes, like say I could I could be here, 771 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 3: I jot down now you put it on the phone 772 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: before you write it, like a title or a punchline 773 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 3: or a hook, and I have it on the stash. 774 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: Or I could start writing a little part of verse 775 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: and just write it off air and then sometimes I 776 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 3: hear beat and the beat or write the song. 777 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: Okay, you feel what I'm. 778 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: Saying, show me about written on your Kitten. 779 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: Oh where's my kidd in Cat cat as stroke and 780 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: man Hop and She's Out and yeah, that was a 781 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 3: freak booty song. I was real hoarty in them days. 782 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 3: That was the naughty nineties. Baby, I was in my twenties. Yeah, 783 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: everybody was throwing in pennies and brawls on stage. I 784 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: had to do something for the lady, and ladies was 785 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 3: buying with a lot of records. Yes see, they come 786 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: to the concert screaming. 787 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I say about the game. Now though, from the 788 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: nineties to now. 789 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody in the crowd throwing them them panties like that, 790 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: like no girdles, not for rappers, no. 791 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 2: See. 792 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: The best thing about it, like I go on a 793 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: lot of the nineties tours and so solout venues and 794 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 3: it's just our area and everything. 795 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 2: Right, it's just a little older, but it's still grew 796 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: with rocket and it ain't nobody banging in the crowds. 797 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: You know. 798 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: It used to be like four five fights in the 799 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 2: crowd shooting outside. Chill. It's chill, did that. 800 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: Ever affect business for you, because your songs definitely, like 801 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: Naughty by Nature was a you know, guard your grill. 802 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: There was definitely songs that could be like let's get 803 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: it on in the in the audiences. 804 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 3: Nah, the show always went on. It was like brawlAnd 805 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 3: was a part of it. Y'all from Brooklyn, y'all. 806 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: Are no. 807 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: Mop used to perform and that would be Biggie brackets. 808 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: Man and bus Man. It just go on. But the 809 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 2: party went on. 810 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 3: It wasn't never stopping nothing, but like it's just a 811 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: whole different cool abody coming out to just hit classic. 812 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: Music and rock. 813 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: I feel like we need to recreate something like maybe 814 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: we should ask the woman who bought Kg's house to 815 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: have another pool party like y'all used to do back. 816 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: We had one after that you did Yeah one she cool? 817 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: She will yeah yeah. 818 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: Maybe like an n J Pack situation or something like that, 819 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: like let's set it up like I feel like that error, 820 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: but that means that you got to do a you know, 821 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: another Naughty by Nature back together, and then maybe we 822 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: bring out we might could do something the way to 823 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: bring out money X and then I'll you know that. 824 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: Sounds good, all right, let's do the negotiations. 825 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: And I know like you and I know obviously you 826 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: and Pack were like this, but he also had his 827 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey affiliation because he. 828 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 3: Had outlaws outlaws and Outlaws is from where my Claire 829 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 3: moves from, North Jersey. 830 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: Got it. 831 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was wild times back then. 832 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 2: I got the road Dogs from La Inglewood. Inglewood. 833 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: See, that was such a connection. I was at a cookout, 834 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: barbecue ones and Fato was there at the cookout and 835 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: he got into it with somebody and then went and 836 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: got in the car and try to run him over 837 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: on the front lawn. 838 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, outside the right Yeah, yeah, Atlanta. Yeah, but like I. 839 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: Said, y'all wouldn't even understand what it was like. It 840 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: was amazing, amazing, but dangerous, dangerous. Oh gosh, all right, 841 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: well listen, I know I got to start my show soon, 842 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: but I appreciate you both for coming, and I mean it, 843 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: that's why I sit it on camera. We're gonna put 844 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: something together, like maybe definitely we got to recreate like 845 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: some of this that sound good Jersey magic, especially for 846 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: the next generation of people coming up. I like that 847 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: South Mountain Reservation. There used to be so many things 848 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: that was lit like. 849 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 3: Like it's just you know, we could get with NJ 850 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 3: Soup and Jersey, the biggest promoter out there, and that's 851 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 3: how our sandbox we grew up with the said see 852 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 3: you don't start the will's turning out that man. 853 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 1: Got his new project on that. Yeah, that you needed 854 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: to do a solo album and. 855 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: It now do I need? I need main? No one 856 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: seeing reason? 857 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: Why did you never do it back then? 858 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 3: Because I was all a team player, like, I'm like, 859 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 3: it's gonna be Look, I wrote anything, but K and 860 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 3: Vin they got publishing. 861 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, I'm like, this is a 862 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: long haul. 863 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 3: We a squad, and I did like the majority of 864 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 3: the of the verses anyway, so I felt like I'm 865 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 3: getting my solo off in the group. I should have, 866 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, catalog wise, but no regrets 867 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 3: regrets and I could still do it now and I 868 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: am doing it and I think I'm even doper. 869 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: Now what made you decide now? And I know you 870 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: said you want to do this on maybe on Shady 871 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: emin Yeah. 872 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 3: Right now, it's like, ain't too many signing, ain't nobody signing, 873 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 3: no artists for mine ever, But I think it's because 874 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: the labels is out there, don't listen to them, and 875 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 3: don't think we still gott it everything else, you know 876 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 3: what I mean. 877 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 2: It's like this is the only. 878 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: Genre in the world, hip hop, where you gotta get 879 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 3: a certain age and don't do music no more, you 880 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So hopefully I want to prove 881 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 3: it wrong. I got a project with my homie Jay Wes. 882 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 3: We got like a double album worth of stuff with 883 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: collaborations with nineties era artists. Okay, crazy big Shout out 884 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 3: the Storm, that's my manager. Yeah, so we're doing some 885 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 3: shopping right now and everything else, like I said, And 886 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm working with money X and a whole lot of 887 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 3: new project like that. 888 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 2: But you out to say before we go where they 889 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: can find video. 890 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 4: You can find me on Instagram at money X Tour one, 891 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 4: I'm all over world Star, Big Box world Star YouTube familiar. 892 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 3: And follow me at Trench Tribe so I can tell 893 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 3: you everything else and show you the promotions on what 894 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 3: we're doing. 895 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: I know you have so much going on. I regret 896 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: that this is before my show starts, but I will 897 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: do it part two and look. 898 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: Out for the Jason's lyric play that's coming out it's 899 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 3: coming back the We did New Jack City for two 900 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: years now, we're. 901 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 4: Doing Jason Me and All Yeah, Shout on Man, you know, 902 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 4: and Overcoats Entertainment, Reggie. 903 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 2: That's right. 904 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: That's gonna be amazing. 905 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're hitting the King Theater again in Brooklyn. 906 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be there. 907 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: Ball