WEBVTT - Sentimental, Scared, and Down the Diddy Doc Rabbit Hole

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<v Speaker 1>Good break it down. If you ever have feelings that

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<v Speaker 1>you just won't Amy and Cat got your covin locking. No, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and folks, do you just follow Anna.

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit where it's all the front over real stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>the chill stuff and the m but Swayne. Sometimes the

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<v Speaker 2>best thing you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just stop you feel things. This is feeling things with

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and Kat.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy Thursday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Kat,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have two feelings of the day. It's content

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<v Speaker 3>and confused, and I have more thoughts on my confused one,

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<v Speaker 3>so we can save that. If you've got any feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have two feelings. Your feelings are an alliteration,

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<v Speaker 1>and my feelings are also alliteration. I love liliteration.

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<v Speaker 2>I love one alliteration.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the one like I don't know what you would

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<v Speaker 1>call that thing I remember learning in elementary school about writing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, it impacts your writing and makes your writing

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<v Speaker 1>better when you have an alliteration.

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<v Speaker 2>It just also makes it more fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I am feeling sentimental and scared, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of similar to you, because you have like a

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<v Speaker 1>kind one and a e one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's its own category. Of feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I have one where I think I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I'm willing the contentment in or I

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<v Speaker 3>actually really feel content. I really do, But I also

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<v Speaker 3>want to maintain that through the end of the year

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<v Speaker 3>because I think this is the time of year where

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<v Speaker 3>things can get a little frazzled and out of control

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<v Speaker 3>because of so much that happens during the holidays. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>like you got cross Like from Thanksgiving to New Year's

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<v Speaker 3>there's just a lot, and you're trying to tackle a

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<v Speaker 3>lot on your list. Maybe you're hosting, you've got people over,

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<v Speaker 3>You're trying to finalize gifts, You're stressed on what to

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<v Speaker 3>get this final person. You have to wrap everything you know,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on where you are and the like what stage

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<v Speaker 3>of life, because your twenties might be a little bit easier.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're the youngest in the family, it's a little easier. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like if you're the oldest and you plain everything all

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<v Speaker 3>the moms, Like, there's just a lot. So I am

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<v Speaker 3>trying to be You're choosing choosing to be content in

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<v Speaker 3>each day and look for things that bring me peace

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<v Speaker 3>and things that I have to be thankful for instead

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<v Speaker 3>of getting like swept up in and I think too.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is so many people online want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about the hustle and the bustle and how overwhelming

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<v Speaker 3>it is, which we're sort of talking about that right

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<v Speaker 3>now because that's just the truth. But when you think

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<v Speaker 3>about it and you see it everywhere, then.

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<v Speaker 2>You take it on yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I want to leave shown that from my algorithm

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<v Speaker 3>and I just want to be in my own I

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<v Speaker 3>am content, Like I am content with some gifts that

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<v Speaker 3>I got. There were some that I was stressing over

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<v Speaker 3>and then finally I just had a point where I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, no, this shouldn't be stressful. I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is a good gift for this person and that is okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I am ordering it and it shall be fine,

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<v Speaker 3>and if.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't like it, they'll return it and buy something.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, yes, I'll throw in a closet or they'll

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<v Speaker 2>regift it, which, hey, the gift that keeps selling gag. Yes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So why are you scared?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, because I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm scared or I feel scared

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<v Speaker 1>for people, but I do want to mention my sentimental

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<v Speaker 1>is actually very close to what you're talking about, because

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<v Speaker 1>I was feeling like the time's going to rush past

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<v Speaker 1>me and I'm not gonna enjoy the holiday because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>stressing about gifts. So I chose to be sentimental. So

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<v Speaker 1>I started like, I need to watch this Christmas movie

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<v Speaker 1>and I need to make this Christmas cookie that I

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<v Speaker 1>make every year, and I need to do so. I

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<v Speaker 1>was feeling that was helping me stay in it versus

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<v Speaker 1>worrying about those things. Anyway, we're shunning that. I'm scared

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<v Speaker 1>for others because I have been watching The Reckoning.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, that is why I'm confused. I did

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<v Speaker 3>not know that's why you were scared, but my confusion

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<v Speaker 3>is from the Reckoning. So I'm confused how Diddy went

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<v Speaker 3>this long without any consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>Because people are scared of him. Okay, yeah, that's valid.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to hear a lot of your thoughts because

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<v Speaker 1>I've only watched one in three fourths of an episode.

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<v Speaker 4>How many are there?

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<v Speaker 2>There's four? Okay, I think there's four, and I've watched

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<v Speaker 2>them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you have more information. There is a man

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<v Speaker 1>in this documentary who is fine being out there in

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<v Speaker 1>this documentary. I will say when I first started watching this,

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<v Speaker 1>I turned it off because I said, and in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm boycotting Netflix. I can't believe they would

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<v Speaker 1>do this because it seems at first because they have

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<v Speaker 1>footage of Sean Combs p Diddy puff that you would

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<v Speaker 1>think would come from him, like it was like in

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<v Speaker 1>his hotel room, Like, how would you get this content?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was putting this do documentary now to

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<v Speaker 1>like clear his name at first.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now?

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<v Speaker 4>So I turned it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty cent is behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well then I learned that. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can watch it now. The man that's in it,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like one of the it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>main guys. It's a documentary. If you haven't watched this yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're talking about the co founder of Bad Blood Records,

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk Burrows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, Sean Comes. I'm gonna call him by his

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<v Speaker 1>god given name.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like what are we calling him? Because I have

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts too, So we're just gonna let's just colimb Sean.

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<v Speaker 4>Sean well come, Sean. He doesn't deserve a nickname.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's still alive and he's not even gonna he's

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<v Speaker 1>in prison now, right, But he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not gonna be in there for that long, unfortunately, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess I'm scared because what he has done

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<v Speaker 1>to so many people, seemingly it's all suspicion, he could

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<v Speaker 1>do to you too. So this guy that used to

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<v Speaker 1>be very close to him is right hand man, is

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<v Speaker 1>now giving all the dirty deats. Why is he not

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<v Speaker 1>scared of retaliation? I was thinking about you the whole

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<v Speaker 1>time I was watching. I was like, Amy would never

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<v Speaker 1>do that, she would take it to the grave because

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<v Speaker 1>she'd be afraid of retaliation.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I thought the same thing too, And maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>just haven't gotten to this part of the show. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to spoil too much if people haven't

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<v Speaker 3>watched it. But Sean has an assistant, a former assistant

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<v Speaker 3>that also comes on and shares, and she was part

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<v Speaker 3>of the trial and testified and everything, and she this

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<v Speaker 3>is the first time she's ever spoken out, like when

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<v Speaker 3>you want to talk about taking things to your grave, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that's what she planned on doing. She's like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just not what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't you know, because she was scared or

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<v Speaker 1>because she just probably just like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Rules of the game like this, you know, she was just,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not the business I'm in, Like I was

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<v Speaker 3>there to do my job, and I did my job.

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<v Speaker 3>And then later she realized like, oh okay, I need

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<v Speaker 3>to share my side of the story. And it was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because they also interviewed jurors in the show and

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<v Speaker 3>to see how the jurors were, Like, it blew my

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<v Speaker 3>mind how they were taking her testimony because I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking I believed everything she said, and it's like some

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<v Speaker 3>people questioned it, which also leads us to the confusion

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<v Speaker 3>behind why he got off on so much and he's

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<v Speaker 3>not serving as much time. So the whole thing has

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<v Speaker 3>just left me perplexed. And I get the whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>of fear, because yes, retaliation is one of.

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<v Speaker 1>My biggest fears.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like I would be very scared, and I have wondered.

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<v Speaker 3>I wondered the same thing that you're wondering, like does

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<v Speaker 3>he have access to this documentary? Can he watch it

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<v Speaker 3>in jail? Will he watch it when he gets out?

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<v Speaker 3>Are his people going to tell him this is who

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<v Speaker 3>was in the documentary, this is exactly what they said,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what they accused you of. And then yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>now he's gonna retaliate. But I feel like at some

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<v Speaker 3>point he has to be off of his throne.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whatever throwne.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain people have him on, Like how will he have

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<v Speaker 2>any power when he gets out?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, well who's on his side? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anybody on his side still? Like who was supporting him

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<v Speaker 1>through his trial?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, people in his family ish. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know exactly which family members, but yes, there are people,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fans. They were out at the trial

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<v Speaker 3>with like signs. I remember seeing it when the trial

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<v Speaker 3>was going on, like people outside with like a freak

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make you guilty, you know, because he's like a

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<v Speaker 3>sexually a freak.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so I'm gonna ask this. You can use

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<v Speaker 1>her discretion how much you information she want to give me.

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<v Speaker 1>Were any of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Jurors like I wish I would have?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get that vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay no, oh so they were like, yeah, he's not guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they weren't like that either.

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<v Speaker 3>One girl that they talked to, she's like went in

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<v Speaker 3>she was like, oh my gosh, I was a huge

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<v Speaker 3>fan growing up. Another guy that was me and was

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<v Speaker 3>like I knew nothing about this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, can you be on the jury.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying sorry, let me rephrase. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 3>she was like I was a big fan, but it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>well Kat saying that she was, but I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they could weed through people that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't listen to that music. I think she clarified by

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<v Speaker 3>saying I listened to music that he was a part of,

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<v Speaker 3>but she was like, I wasn't a fan of his

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<v Speaker 3>music personally, Okay, like she wasn't like because he was

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<v Speaker 3>an individual artist as well, but I think she was

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<v Speaker 3>more so a fan of the artists under his label,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think there is a difference because like I

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<v Speaker 3>listened to Biggie and I liked when he was on

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<v Speaker 3>Mace's album, Like in high school, that's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>albums I remember listening to. And then I love Tupac

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<v Speaker 3>a different record label. But I learned through this documentary

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<v Speaker 3>like I missed because so much of the feud was

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<v Speaker 3>happening all these years, or that's kind of like East

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<v Speaker 3>Coast West Coast. Like I even have a shirt that

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<v Speaker 3>has Tupac on one side and Biggie on the other

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<v Speaker 3>and it says East.

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<v Speaker 2>Coast, West Coast, And where did you get that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know I think I ordered it online because

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<v Speaker 3>my friend maybe bought it for me, and she thought

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<v Speaker 3>of me because I liked both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just smoking SIGs and wearing your East Coast

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<v Speaker 1>West coast shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was a big fan of both.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you understand the feud back then? Did anybody

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside?

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<v Speaker 2>I think a little bit we knew.

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<v Speaker 3>I I don't think I knew Diddy's involvement in the feud,

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<v Speaker 3>And I forgot until I watched the documentary that they

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<v Speaker 3>were all cordial and friends, like they would hang out.

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<v Speaker 3>Tupac and Bigie got along just fine until Tupac showed

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<v Speaker 3>up at Diddy's studios one day to record a song

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<v Speaker 3>with one of Diddy's artists and end up getting shot

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<v Speaker 3>five times. Yeah, and they lived and lived, and then

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<v Speaker 3>two years later he ends up dead.

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<v Speaker 4>So is this why you might not know this either?

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<v Speaker 4>But so fifty Cent made this documentary? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this why he I had to research this? What

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say, is this why he doesn't like Diddy?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was gonna say, is this why he always

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<v Speaker 1>wore a vest? Was that thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Fifty Cent got shot like fifty times or nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty. He lived.

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<v Speaker 2>He got shot, so I think he had his experience

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<v Speaker 2>with getting shot.

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<v Speaker 1>He shot him. I don't remember because it was a

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<v Speaker 1>no okay, no, sorry. I don't mean to spread rumors.

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<v Speaker 3>I now some people might be like, what the heck?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care about any of this, But if you

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<v Speaker 3>want a documentary, you will be fascinated.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Diddy is Sean.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, Sean has such a massive stamp on wrap

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<v Speaker 3>and even pop culture.

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<v Speaker 1>From Dannity Kin.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, yes, did they get to that? They talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Aubrey O Day is a documentary.

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<v Speaker 4>I love making the band, so did I.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when Danity Kane came to ninety six seven

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<v Speaker 3>KISSFM in Austin because you know, I used to work

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<v Speaker 3>in pop. So they came up to the station and

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<v Speaker 3>did a meet and greet with our listeners in our

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<v Speaker 3>radio listening lounge, and my college roommate like called me

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<v Speaker 3>at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, is Danity Kane coming up to the station.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, She's like I have to come,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I got her in and then we have

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<v Speaker 3>our picture with Danity Kan and he was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a big deal. Then Jlo obviously dating her

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<v Speaker 2>than all of you know his music.

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<v Speaker 4>Like said anything about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I know of it, okay, because she probably had some trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, how did she date him?

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't know the insides of her life, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't She talks about being from the Bronx alot,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe she, like I don't know, from talk about

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<v Speaker 1>being tough.

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<v Speaker 2>From the block.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know what I thought that during the documentary,

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<v Speaker 3>like how is Jlo even? I just have her in

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<v Speaker 3>a different category and I don't know her, so I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why I have her in that category.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, how was she attracted to him?

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<v Speaker 3>And was he Maybe he had different sides of himself

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<v Speaker 3>that would show up for different people, even sexually.

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<v Speaker 4>They fully were in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for years, sure, but you can still have different

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<v Speaker 2>versions of you, right, I'm not just psyching from experience,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would think a person like him can be

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<v Speaker 2>a chameleon and show up for like how he was

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<v Speaker 2>with Cassie, how he was with Kim Porter, how he

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Cassie.

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<v Speaker 1>I also loved her And do you know where I

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<v Speaker 1>first found her? Discovered in the club young really? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I first discussed her because she was a model for

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<v Speaker 1>the DLIAZ catalog.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you have a shop at diliaz?

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you know. Deliaz was my favorite place to shop,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was their main model. And then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden she was singing me and.

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<v Speaker 3>You I've just been late and so long as yeah anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>So I did a little research of my own because

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know what fifty cents a deal was with

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<v Speaker 3>this whole thing. So fifty Cent says he made the

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<v Speaker 3>Netflix doc Shawan Comb's The Reckoning to give victims a

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<v Speaker 3>voice and to call out abuse in the hip hop industry.

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<v Speaker 3>He says it's feud with Diddy just made him less

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<v Speaker 3>afraid to do it, but Cassie's lawsuit and the serious

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<v Speaker 3>allegations were the real push. He felt no one else

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<v Speaker 3>would speak up, so he used his platform to expose

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<v Speaker 3>behavior he believes the industry shouldn't ignore. And his issues

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<v Speaker 3>with did He go back years, starting with him accusing

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<v Speaker 3>Diddy of being tied to Biggie's death in a two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and six disk track. From there, it turned into

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<v Speaker 3>business tension, creative clashes, and fifty Cent saying that Diddy

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<v Speaker 3>treated artists unfairly, which he did.

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<v Speaker 4>Was he ever on fifty cent ever on what record label?

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<v Speaker 1>Was he not bad Boy? I don't And can I

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<v Speaker 1>have another question, how old is fifty cent? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>the same age? Because to me, fifty Cents was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot younger than Sean really in my head, because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember fifty set was really cool when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>high school, and I feel like Sean was.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was like in middle school.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is I guess they popped off because I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I picture them being the same. I remember like

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<v Speaker 3>Diddy stuff and then Lunchbox on the show when we

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<v Speaker 3>worked in Pop. He flew to Vegas and got to

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<v Speaker 3>hang out with fifty Cent, and he went in with

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<v Speaker 3>like all these chains, yeah, like trying to act all

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<v Speaker 3>like hardcore, like the skinny white boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Walking and he was like yeah, yeah, so okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>same age.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, fifty Cent said that Diddy's behavior made him uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of that eventually fed into fifty Cent producing

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<v Speaker 3>the documentary and he just has not liked him for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the problem that I'm having right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So he must not be scared of retaliation.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think fifty cents scared of anybody. Probably rightfully.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's my problem I'm having right now, which I

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<v Speaker 1>need to like center this because I hear that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, fifty cent is such a good guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>must be such a good guy, Like good for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not doing any critical thinking there, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that well I shouldn't say that either, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Like, but because he'd made this to then

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<v Speaker 1>give victims a voice, which is I think, all great,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm glad that he made this documentary, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also very biased. So how am I going to take

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<v Speaker 1>in this documentary through an unbiased lens?

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<v Speaker 4>That makes sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Like all the people in that documentary obviously hate Sean Combs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think this is one of those things where

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<v Speaker 2>there's smoke, there's fire.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think he's a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess I'm thinking, like, when only one side

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<v Speaker 1>is telling their story, it's like, well, the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>the side that's telling their story, probably did some messed

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<v Speaker 1>up things too. Oh does that make sense I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like now I'm like fifty cent is a saint,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, Okay, I should not go that far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think we need to because you have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think of you brought up the Kirk guy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the co founder of bad Boy Records. I think of

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<v Speaker 3>things that Sean asked him to do, and he is

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<v Speaker 3>now telling us his version, which is that is wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to do that, which led to him

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<v Speaker 3>getting fired. Now are there things over the years we

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<v Speaker 3>have no idea what Kirk did?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he was in partnership with this guy, like

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<v Speaker 3>who knows what we're getting a little bit, a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of the story that doesn't And.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a puppet master and they were all like

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<v Speaker 4>his Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, I just don't I think, yes, we're hearing those sides.

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<v Speaker 3>But who knows how innocent certain people are in all

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<v Speaker 3>of this.

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<v Speaker 4>But we can agree that this person was bad and

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<v Speaker 4>this over here is like not that ye, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows what thinks sort of things fifty cent has done?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know because people haven't come up with that

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<v Speaker 3>documentary yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a question, Nelly, what about him?

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<v Speaker 1>Nelly? What about him?

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<v Speaker 2>What about Nelly?

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<v Speaker 1>I think of like Nelly, seems like he's married to

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<v Speaker 1>a shanty now, right, did they just.

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<v Speaker 5>Have a baby?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>But I think he's from Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, That's what's my question is like these are are

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<v Speaker 1>they like on different record labels, so like they're not

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<v Speaker 1>in this drama. But because I think of Nelly around

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<v Speaker 1>the same time I think of fifty cent Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's the easy way to do this, Okay, Like

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<v Speaker 3>that would be like we live in Nashville, so we

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<v Speaker 3>have all of these country artists, right, There's all multiple

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<v Speaker 3>labels here that people are part of, so like there's

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<v Speaker 3>not just like just because there's a country artist feud

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<v Speaker 3>maybe doesn't mean that like every artist stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like, where was Nelly in all of this drama?

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<v Speaker 1>He was in Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean because they go over all the artists that

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<v Speaker 3>were on there was East Coast, West Coast, so like

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<v Speaker 3>Snoop dog was with two doctors and then I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even remember all the ones on Yeah Sean's.

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<v Speaker 4>But Snoop Dogg doesn't make an appearance, does he?

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<v Speaker 1>So death Row?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Snoop Dogg is not in the documentary, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he is by proxy, yes, because he was part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Throw Records and Lazy Yeah, death Row and

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<v Speaker 2>then bad Boy, Yeah you are a bad Boy? Was

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<v Speaker 2>that like foreshadowing.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those bad boy like it's cool to bad

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<v Speaker 1>bad You know what makes me think of I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was a vine or like a reel

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever of that little kid that's like, I like

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<v Speaker 1>to do bad things with my friends.

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<v Speaker 4>It's cool to do bad things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm talking about anyway now, I'm talking about like,

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<v Speaker 1>look at you like to do It's cool to do

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<v Speaker 1>bad things. He took his grandma's car out and drove

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<v Speaker 1>it around the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like six, Oh, well, that part I think

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<v Speaker 2>I remember.

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<v Speaker 4>He was it's cool to do bad things. I like

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<v Speaker 4>to do bad things with my friends. That is bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it definitely took me on a journey, like

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<v Speaker 3>I was googling stuff, like trying to figure out like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the order of events, like Tupac got shot, he survived,

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<v Speaker 3>then he gets shot again in Vegas where Sugar Night.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of I've never heard of that man before. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know who that was before?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you did, Yeah, well I've heard of him. I

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<v Speaker 1>had never heard of him because he was not he

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<v Speaker 1>never had music.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just the man in charge record label. I

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<v Speaker 2>think CEO or president or one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of what I was saying with like

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty cent thing, this might be a better example.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched that documentary and in my head, Suge Knight

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<v Speaker 1>is such a good guy. Now hear me what I've said.

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<v Speaker 1>I I've watched one and a half of them, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, he's the good guy because it feels

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<v Speaker 1>so binary to me, of like these are the good

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<v Speaker 1>guys and these are the bad guys. But it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like there was lots of not great things going on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just getting one part of the not great things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because there was gang affiliations with all of these people.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know that I classify anybody that can

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<v Speaker 3>call up a blood or a crip as.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Snoop Dogg's really yeah yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he he has a cookbook. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Marker Martin Stewart also questions, well, she went to jail, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and her documentary. You watched that, right, Yes, her documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how did you approve that to get Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she didn't. That did not paint her in a

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<v Speaker 1>good light whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I just googled generically, is sug Night a

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<v Speaker 3>good guy?

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<v Speaker 4>Where is he a bad boy?

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<v Speaker 3>So it says allegations mounted that Night, beyond employing gang members,

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<v Speaker 3>often used intimidation and violence in his business dealings. From

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<v Speaker 3>the late nineteen nineties to early two thousands, Night spent

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<v Speaker 3>a few years incarcerated for assault convictions and associated violations

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<v Speaker 3>of probation and parole. So I don't know, like compared

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<v Speaker 3>to maybe things did he was doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, is there a scale?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like from the spectrum, right, So Shug's here, Shawn's

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<v Speaker 1>down over here for what we know, for what we know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is stuff that we know. That's what we know. Well, okay, Also,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody listen. I mean, I have no idea what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>That is clear because you're like, wait a second.

0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Where's Nelly?

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<v Speaker 2>There's other rappers.

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<v Speaker 1>We're leading people out.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jlo and Sean were together roughly two years on

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 3>and off again, that is so not so. And Diddy

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<v Speaker 3>is five years older than fifty cent by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>since you were asking his age, and then Nellie was

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<v Speaker 3>primarily signed to Universal Records.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds more wholesome and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's more Universal, just kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>So his son, do you know? Is his son? In

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<v Speaker 4>this documentary? Or his son like pro him Sean Sean son.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So there are other like, uh, he's in the

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<v Speaker 3>hotel room when he's this is like six days before

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 3>his arrest, and it's the footage that's him leading up

0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 3>to his arrest, you know, the footage that I don't

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:54.159
<v Speaker 3>know how they got that, by the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, the footage you were confused about.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yes, when they're in the hotel room, he's talking.

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<v Speaker 3>To his lawyer, yeah, or he's talking to everybody. He'll

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<v Speaker 3>be on the phone like he'll head. He keeps saying

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<v Speaker 3>over and over, he's like, God told me to do nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>so y'all need to do it. Like, y'all got to

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 3>figure out how we're going to solve this because God

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 3>has told me to do nothing.

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:12.919
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, why does he keep saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>God is telling you to do to stop doing bad things?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Is that?

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:20.679
<v Speaker 4>Like the talk about manipulative avoiding.

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 3>And victim mode of like I I can't do this

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 3>is not my problem. This is now y'all have to

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<v Speaker 3>figure it out because God told me to just do nothing.

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 3>And he's on the phone and he keeps saying that,

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 3>and anyway, there's people in his hotel room and their

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 3>last name was Combs, and he was like, justin or so,

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<v Speaker 3>who is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that his son? Okay?

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 2>It is his son?

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<v Speaker 3>Because yeah, I tried to google the children and then

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't remember the name from the documentary and then

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 3>the old the children that he has because.

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<v Speaker 1>There's lots and where I am he only has one son, Okay,

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>well he has lots.

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know, six or seven kids and from

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<v Speaker 3>maybe four different baby mamas, and my level of I

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 3>really care about this died, so like in the middle

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 3>of my googling, Like I was like, should I go

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<v Speaker 3>back to the documentary and figure out what name was

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 3>on the screen and who was in the hotel room

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<v Speaker 3>and cross reference it with all the children? And then

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 3>I just really didn't care. But I didn't know if

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 3>it was like a cousin or some other sibling with

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 3>the same last name. But he did have people, He

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 3>has people, you know, hanging out with him. And then

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<v Speaker 3>he was arrested. Did he invite his son to the

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even want to say it, the parties? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when he was first being accused of a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of this, and he was facetiming his family like

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<v Speaker 3>saying we're going to figure this out. And they were

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 3>publicizing this stuff on social media because to look, they

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 3>thought it would be a good look of like, yeah,

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 3>get on FaceTime with your family and tell them it's

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<v Speaker 3>all going to be all right. I'm paraphrasing, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you know this, we're going to get this

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<v Speaker 3>worked out, which I'm sure he really and he sort

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<v Speaker 3>of did in a way like it's not as bad

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 3>as it should have been on him. Right, I have

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<v Speaker 3>one last important question, and I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 3>have the answer.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably well, no, this is more personal. This isn't even

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<v Speaker 4>really a question.

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 1>This is just a thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Who was his attorney? And how do you agree to

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<v Speaker 4>be his attorney?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so because he has so much money, I'm pretty

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 3>sure he hired like eight powerful attorneys.

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess like, yes, there are eight dirty attorneys.

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, like you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Find people as long I would say, yes, like we

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<v Speaker 3>have certain levels of integrity.

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they were presented with.

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 3>Facts where they felt like he's being treated unfairly and

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<v Speaker 3>we want to prove that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they really feel like he didn't do X y Z.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though there's if you're an answer, this isn't a

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you might not know the answer this, but I do

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 1>want to raise this question. If you're an attorney, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to believe your client or can you know

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.479
<v Speaker 1>that your client did something bad and still it up

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's attorney client privileges, right, So.

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Like, let's say I murdered somebody and I hired you

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>as my attorney. When I hired you, I said I

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't do it, but then I hired you and I

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, just so you know I did it. Can

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>you still defend me? Or is that against the law

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>because you know I did it and you have an admission.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's crazy, right because I guess that you need

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 3>to get a lawyer on the line.

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, if you're a lawyer, let us know. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I could google this, But that is the same kind

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 1>of this is he didn't well, I guess he may

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>have murdered people. But the same thing, if you have

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>all this evidence that points that your client was guilty,

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>how do you you still have to defend them?

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody has the right to an attorney. I see

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 3>that on TV when people are getting arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like you have a right to the attorney in

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 2>the court of law.

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that.

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 3>And so that's why you can get a court appointed

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 3>attorney to represent you. And so someone may have to

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 3>represent the guilty person, like, there's always going to be

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 3>a person up there that has.

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<v Speaker 1>To do their job.

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 3>However, I'm thinking, if I'm an attorney and I start

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 3>representing someone and they tell me they're innocent and I

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 3>truly believe them, and then along the way I find

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 3>out they're guilty, I think I have to fire them

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 3>as a client.

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's my point. But like you, I guess that's integrity.

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.959
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I have updates from Shannon on this. Yes, an

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 3>attorney can and must defend a guilty person because their

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.199
<v Speaker 3>ethical duty is to ensure that the state proves its

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 3>case beyond a reasonable doubts.

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh so there, Okay, uphold.

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 3>The client's constitutional rights and ensure a fair trial. Regardless

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 3>of the lawyer's personal belief in the client's guilts. The

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 3>lawyer's role isn't to judge factual guilt, but to challenge

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 3>the prosecution's evidence, check police procedures, and secure the best

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 3>legal outcome, whether that's dismissal, reduce charges.

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Or a fair sentence. Okay, this is why I was

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>not going to be a lawyer. Just now we know.

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:58.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I probably wouldn't have passed the bar.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is also that makes it a little bit

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>different that like, if I am Sean's attorney, I'm not

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to prove his innocence. I'm just trying to make

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>sure that the state is doing their fair job of

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>proving that this happened. I still wouldn't do it, just

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>so everybody now.

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 3>However, the vibe I got from his attorneys that were

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 3>backing him is they were doing whatever they could do

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 3>to get him the lightest sentence possible, and they were

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 3>proud of their work. Like they didn't seem like like, oh,

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 3>we don't want to be here. No, he retained them,

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not like he didn't get a court

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 3>appointed at all the time.

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 4>They got job security after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think with him for life for any Yes, because

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I for sure I didn't pay a lot of attention

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to this because I was like, for sure, he's going

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to jail forever. Surely he is, and then he didn't.

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like if I'm in a pickle and

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I have the money and I did something similar. I'm

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>calling those eight attorneys because if they can do it

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>for him, they could do it for me, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And to clarify his children, he has seven, four

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>different just I'm giving you the exact I wonder how

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the children are seven children, four different mothers. One of

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the babies I know was born in like twenty twenty two,

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>so like recent ish. I didn't plan on talking about

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 2>this this long, So sorry if nobody cares about it,

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's interesting, interesting, and you should watch

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the documentary if you haven't yet. I mean talk about conversation.

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Starters at a dinner holiday party, like if you're at

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Christmas party or New Year's parties, like watch this and

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>then like pull the room.

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>You're literally at Christmas dinner and one of your uncles

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like starts bringing up politics, and you're like, well, actually

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>have something better to talk about it. Let's do you

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>think that Sean Comb's got a fair sentence? Also maybe

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>testing to talk about a dinner because what if somebody says, yes, okay, yeah,

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>check his like well have you watched the Reckoning?

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Like check his history?

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Like anybody that is thinking that that, I don't know,

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Like we need to had you husband's had your kids

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 3>from that person.

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, last thing that I'll drop it. Okay, I

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>promise he got fifty months?

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 5>What is that?

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Four years? There's twelve in one year? Twelve time?

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Or who's twenty four, thirty six, forty eight? Like four

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 3>years and some change? So by change, I mean two months.

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>He's already been in jail for a while. Prison, he's

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>getting out soon? What's his soon?

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>He's not getting out soon?

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, four years is not that long.

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>I hope that somebody doesn't real bad to him in jail.

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Not like you better be careful what you said.

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to hear me say that we are

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>going viral on TikTok and Instagram reels. Okay, well I

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>would be careful.

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Don't put this part up there, okay. And I don't

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 3>think any of our listeners are gonna sell me out.

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 3>But you know, like I wonder if what he's what

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 3>his life is like in prison, if he's getting great treatment,

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 3>or if he's holding someone's pocket.

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, holding somebody's pocket?

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, do I have to look that up?

0:30:59.240 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a way of like you know, you're

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 3>somebody's boy. Oh so if he's the boy, yeah, he

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 3>holds the pocket, he's not in charge.

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, got it right?

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Like cool? You know lingo? I think you remember that?

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 2>No? I remember that song from prison Break?

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh I didn't watch that.

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 3>You don't watch prison Break with Wentworth Miller where he

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 3>tattooed his escape plan on his body?

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 4>No, that's crazy. But I did watch Orange is the

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 4>New Black?

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Very different? Yeah, very okay.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 4>So do we think he's going to go into hiding?

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Is my question?

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>He has he cannot live in the United States. There's

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>no life for him here.

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Who knows? Who knows? I don't know what he thinks.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>He thinks.

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 3>He's like he compares himself to the Son of God.

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I believe in the documentary and I'm paraphrasing, he said

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 3>something along those lines of like what else do we

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 3>can compare me to?

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Like stop? No, he sounds like a version of Kanye West.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>What record label was Kanye West on? He wasn't in

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>any of this.

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I think he was a did he supporter that tracks?

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 3>So in prison slang, holding someone's pocket means controlling, influencing,

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 3>or protecting a weaker inmates. Oh, I was thinking it

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 3>something dirt, like a little bee or a punk. Well,

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 3>I think dirty things happen to the little bee.

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 5>Oh.

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 2>He provides favors or services in exchange for safety, got it?

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>And status?

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 3>You know certain acts also potentially being away for guards

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 3>to manage inmates, or a tactic to keep someone indebted

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 3>and under control. But unfortunately he's such a master manipulator.

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Like who knows?

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 4>And do the people in prison have access to understand what.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>This is true?

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes? They do. Yeah, like people, I'm.

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Just thinking, like they can't watch the documentary so they

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>can't like know the truth. But like I think they

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>talk to people. I'm going to stop talking now.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I wish we could know. I wish we could talk.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Where is he because like we need to know, like,

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>do you all have access to Netflix? Has he seen

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 2>the reckoning? Yeah? Is he coming up with a plan

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>to retell you in fifty cent.

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Imagine you're in prison and in walks shot combs. Okay,

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>So rumor is per Cryocat that put this on ABC.

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<v Speaker 4>Amy's not buying this?

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I'm not saying I'm not buying it.

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Because they can only watch ABC in prison. I wonder

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>why they can only watch.

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 2>It, But I feel like, who, I don't know, maybe

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>they have some deal, but I feel like people.

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Because he has Yeah, I feel like they they acquired the.

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 3>P they have computers, they keysterin phones, they you know

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 3>or you know, they have relationships with guards and they

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 3>get like, I'm sure they can stream. I'm sure they're

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 3>streaming some Christmas movies up in there all day harmony.

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Kanye West was not signed to a major record label

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 3>as Recording our Artist during the period of the Tupac

0:33:56.600 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Biggie stuff. During that era, Kanye was primarily work as

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 3>an aspiring producer for local artists in Chicago. But I

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 3>do know at one of the award shows, Sean was

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 3>receiving a Lifetime Achievement award at some point, and Kanye

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 3>was one of the people that announced him to come

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 3>on stage, giving him promise. But I think he had

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 3>his face covered with like a T shirt, you know,

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 3>speaking yes, because he was all weird, like he's speaking

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 3>through like a shirt.

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Like all you could see was like a nose and

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a mouth moving in the world.

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which, don't even get me started on the Kardashians seven.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Watching that too, and I've thoughts, but I think we've

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>done too much with I have to stop talking.

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we can do something helpful for people if

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 3>they are looking for small talk situations at Christmas parties

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 3>or things that are coming up, and this is just

0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 3>a technique you can keep in your back pock.

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I've seen multiple people talk about it. This is probably

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:04.359
<v Speaker 2>because it's that time of year.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 3>But I googled it and I couldn't find exactly where

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 3>it originated from because so many different people spoke about it.

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 3>But it's called the Forge method Forge forge F O

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 3>rge forge, which Shannon, maybe you can find if you know.

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to credit the right people, but I just

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 3>feel like it was like a thing that has been

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 3>floating out there. It's an acronym to keep conversations flowing

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.919
<v Speaker 3>by focusing on safe universal topics. So if you don't

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 3>want to get into politics or Sean Combs, you can

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 3>start with F, which is the beginning of forge. So

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 3>what you do, Kat is like you're like, Okay, I'm

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 3>talking to this new person. I'm horrible at small talk.

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 4>What do I do?

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah?

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Forge F is for family. I'm gonna ask them, So

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 3>do you have family here, how many siblings do you have?

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Like any family specific type questions? Okay, that can be

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 3>your go to. So what's a crazy family tradition that

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 3>you guys have? So that's f Oh what do you

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 3>think O stands for?

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 4>Have you been outside lately? It's a good question.

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Occupation.

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 3>So then you could ask questions like, you know, like obviously,

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 3>what do you do for a living, or what's your

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 3>dream job like or if you could do anything in

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.320
<v Speaker 3>the world, or if money didn't matter, what would you do?

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, volunteer work, stuff that falls under occupation.

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 4>I know there are what is it? Is it recreation?

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>It is? What do you like to do for fun?

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're catching on. Ask things like what do you

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 3>like to do for fun? Got any hobbies that you're

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:43.720
<v Speaker 3>really into? And this part of the conversation is crucial

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.359
<v Speaker 3>because it's all about what makes them tick when they're

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 3>off the clock, because like family stuff might be a

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.479
<v Speaker 3>little sensitive at times. Who wants to talk about work?

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Recreation can be a fun one because you're like exploring

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 2>other sides of them.

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Have you gone on any cool vacations this year?

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Like what's the best vacation, what's the Oh that's that's

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>not under our, that's under G.

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Forge.

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 2>G is geography.

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gotten there ask things like have you traveled

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 3>anywhere interesting lately? Or is there a place you'd like

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 3>to visit someday?

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so don't ask that unless you're in the G category.

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 5>Well this is so I'm just kidding. Well, to be clear,

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 5>just so people know how to use it. It's just

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 5>an acronym to keep in your back pocket. Like, you

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 5>don't have to go in any particular order, but it's

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 5>just something to pull from when you're sitting there talking

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 5>to someone and you're feeling stuck or desperate, or like,

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 5>oh how do I get through this?

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Or I'm so awkward? Then just forge it up?

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 4>Forge it up?

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Wait?

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 4>Is there an E on the end of forge?

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 2>There is?

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 4>Can I guess what it is?

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I have two guesses, entertainment or extracurricular activities.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 3>It's under experience. You can ask things like what's a

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 3>cool experience you've had? Or have you learned anything important

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 3>lately or life changing? There's like any experiences they might

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 3>have done, any experiential therapy?

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Why yes, I have I like that because I yeah,

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I hate small talk. And that gives you like a

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>quick reminder of there's easy things you can just ask about. Generally,

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>when you ask people questions, they want to give you,

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>they want to talk about that.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 4>Kind of stuff. Yeah, fun things.

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>It just gives you a guide, yeah, like where to

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 2>go with the small talk because it can be hard when.

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>You think about Christmas and gift giving. Is there a

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:34.879
<v Speaker 1>gift that sticks out that was like a really weird

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 1>gift that you got?

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Ever?

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't want to say because you don't

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>want hurt some of these feelings, that's fine.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 4>But have you ever gotten like a I.

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Mean, it was for my birthday, but it wasn't for Christmas.

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's okay.

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh if it's the category. Yeah, well the time I

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>think I told you this before, and I have the

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 2>picture of my atticts off to show you one day.

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 3>But the time that my husband when I was turning thirty,

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 3>so is my ex husband now, But it was my

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 3>thirtieth birthday and he gotthered all my friends at a

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 3>local art gallery. We lived in downtown Southern Pines, North Carolina.

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 3>There's this cute little art gallery and he had champagne

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 3>there and cake and all my friends and then a

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 3>canvas that was stenciled by an artist that worked at

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 3>the gallery, and I was like, Oh, we're going to

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 3>do like a paint by numbers, but not me.

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 2>My friends were going to paint it. My friends were

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 2>going to paint me a painting of me.

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I wish we had that painting down here. I know

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you still have it. It has Andy Warhol vibes, like

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the colors, yeah, like.

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.919
<v Speaker 2>It was supposed to. And then all my friends signed

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 2>the back.

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 3>But I was like Ben and he said, look, look

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.240
<v Speaker 3>look this just so you know, this wasn't my idea,

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I wanted to do this, and I thought we

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 3>would just do a painting of something like scenery.

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>A tree, maybe our dog. That would have been cute.

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the person that worked at the gallery was like,

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, what if we do her? Like I

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 3>would love to have a picture of me. And I

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 3>think this person like literally had a picture of themselves

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 3>hanging in their house, which some people do have portraits

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 3>like that.

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 1>That is great.

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 2>This is not me.

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 3>In fact, I mean Shannon should just go maybe Shannon,

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:16.720
<v Speaker 3>do you It's in the attic.

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>You'll see it.

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 2>You'll see it.

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Look to the left, like right after out of Stashira's closet,

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 3>look to the left, it's bright colors.

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 4>It's you can miss it.

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>You can't miss it.

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>It's me.

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 4>Did you act like you were excited?

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what else was I supposed to act like?

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that.

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I I think I acted just normal. I did not

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 2>express my.

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Friends so cool.

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>They probably thought it was weird too, like I would

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 2>be like.

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're painting you.

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. They were really sweet.

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 3>That was an awkward thing. And then he and then

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 3>he he sort of was sad that I didn't hang

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 3>it up.

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 4>Where was it gonna go?

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I do not know, because it did not.

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:01.959
<v Speaker 3>Go in our house, But like it also didn't turn

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 3>out exactly like what I think he thought either, like nobody,

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:08.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if.

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>We finished it. Okay, don't show hair bread to me.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll show it.

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>It's so big.

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 2>My friends signed the bag.

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>That is so scary. Why is your hair like leopard?

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Because it was like I told you, like and I

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>think that's the vibe. Did the teacher say like, hey,

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you go put this color here? Because I did some

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>nice shade.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 3>It was like sketched with like there was pencil and

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 3>then I guess then there was paint laying out and

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 3>everybody got to fill it in. Okay, I don't know

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 3>if there was paint by numbers. I don't remember if

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 3>it was like, you know, three, four or five, and

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 3>then the paint was labeled and then everybody did it.

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. This is not what I thought you

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>were going to say when I asked this question. And

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.720
<v Speaker 1>also I'm just imagining. I think you should prank somebody

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 1>that has not been to your house yet and hang

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it up because if I would have come to your

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>house for the first time and I saw that, I'd

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>be like I would first of all, I would probably

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>compliment it because that would feel so awkward, like I

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>love that painting that you commission it, Like I need

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody to say, technically.

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>It was commissioned.

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, he paid her to host this party

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 3>for us, and then my friends paint by numbered it.

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 3>So the whole experience was my gift, which the experience

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 3>was fun in itself, but this is what I walked

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 3>away with.

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 4>And you'll never forget.

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we have to invite something, well, you have to

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 1>invite somebody over or just like put it up.

0:42:58.000 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Does Alex know about this?

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, just hanging up one day and

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Alex comes over and be like, oh gosh, I found

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>this painting.

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.439
<v Speaker 4>I think it looks so cute right here, And see

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 4>what he says. That's how you know if he's gonna

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 4>be honest with.

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 3>You or not, he's gonna know I'm not serious this.

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing about this my like aesthetic anywhere. I can't

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 3>think of anywhere in my house that that would go.

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Maybe the game room, but you maybe, yeah, that's where

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 3>it's been. For gosh, that was fourteen years ago. And

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 3>and and honestly, I felt so bad because Ben was like,

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 3>you don't like the picture because.

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 1>No, first of all, i'd.

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 3>He took it personally, I think, you know, I think

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 3>he was in it, like emotionally he was in it

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.320
<v Speaker 3>because he had planned this whole thing. And then it

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 3>sort of went because it was a really sweet, very

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 3>sweet idea. I just wish we would have done my dog,

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 3>because like, how cute If we did Joe see my

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 3>cute little Rottweiler and walked away with like, yeah, it

0:43:59.239 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 3>be so something.

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 2>It's still a brilliant idea.

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 3>In fact, if anybody wants to take that idea and

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 3>take it as your own for someone that you love,

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Like I think it's great, just don't do the person

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.399
<v Speaker 3>because then that makes it awkward because people are there

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 3>celebrating you, painting you, and then this is what we

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.280
<v Speaker 3>end up with, Like the whole.

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Thing is just weird.

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 3>But I think Ben was so emotionally involved in like

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 3>the whole set, like he almost took that I didn't

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:26.720
<v Speaker 3>like the painting.

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Is that I didn't like the whole event? Yeah, and

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 2>this caused issues. Well, okay, I was gonna say the

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 2>fact that it was in the attic for years, like.

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 4>Where was it in your last house?

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Attic looked in the attic, But I do time moved

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 2>with it. I've hold on to it because I mean,

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 2>with a.

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Memory, you can't get rid of that ever, Because what

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>if somebody asked you this question again? Right?

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, oh man, so have you gotten a

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>gift that you hate?

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:58.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not that I hated it. I got a weird gift.

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>It is gonna be nothing compared to this story. So

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>just bear in mind. I wasn't expecting this. I just

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:06.800
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about it with all of the you know,

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Diddy stuff. One year for Christmas, I asked my parents

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>for the R.

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 4>Kelly CD.

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Because I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 4>I love that song.

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>It was my childhood song that I thought I actually

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>could sing well. Favorite song, So I asked for the R.

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Kelly CD and my parents bought it for me. I

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know why, because one of the songs I was

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 1>probably eleven mind you, I don't even think I believe

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I can if I was on the CD.

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 4>But what was on the CD was the greatest sex.

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>And like they didn't look at the titles of the songs.

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Sure, but like maybe I think I would have yeah,

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Like they didn't. They didn't flip the CD over. So

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it just was like a weird gift to get from

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 1>my parents because also they weren't strict, but they weren't

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>like they weren't like buying me rap CDs.

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 4>So it's just a weird gift to get.

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Anytime I think of that song, I think of my

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 3>ninth grade typing class because I had to take did

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:10.959
<v Speaker 3>you have to take a typing class in high school

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 3>where you just sit there and you'd go, hey, hey

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 3>A B.

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean you just sit there and learn how to take.

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 4>You have the thing over the thing so you couldn't

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:19.720
<v Speaker 4>see the keys.

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 3>I just remember sitting in typing class and my friends

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 3>and I had that song was prob of the time,

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 3>and we would sing.

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 2>To leave I can type, press the keys and type

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 2>away and we would type to that.

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 4>What's sad is we have to that song could no

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 4>longer be No, he's.

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Bad bad I'm gonna talk about a bad boy.

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, I wonder what's what record company he was on?

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Good question.

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 4>I guess we'll ever know.

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 1>We could google it.

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 2>We can google it, Okay, Well, so there you have it.

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I think the big takeaways from today are forge.

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what you can take away, small talk.

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Keep forge, your rapocket pocket, family, occupation, recreation, recreation, geography, experience.

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah we're not. Oh, I didn't know if you're doing

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:10.439
<v Speaker 4>a wrap.

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 2>No, but tupac dear mama is one of my specialties.

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 4>Would you like to edit?

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:17.359
<v Speaker 3>When I was young, me and my mama had beef

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 3>seventeen years old, kicked down on the streets back.

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>In the time. I never thought of tuday. Ain't a

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 2>woman alive that could take Mama's place. You sett in

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>it from school, scared to go home. I was a

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 2>fool with the big boys, breaking.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>All the rules.

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 4>See, and he was so nice.

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's not no, he's saying, dear mama,

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 2>like and even though you're a crack queen Mama.

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't know.

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>He said that crackphene or something.

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:45.359
<v Speaker 2>You always was a black queen mama.

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 4>What's kind of sweet?

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Now he's talking about how like in wod Thinking elementary. Hey,

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 3>I see the penitentiary one day running from the police.

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 3>That's right, Okay, catch a whooping or mama, catchy, put

0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 3>a whooping to my backside.

0:47:59.600 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of compared to some things you hear. Now,

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit cleaner, wouldn't you say? It's a

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:07.719
<v Speaker 1>left note to his mom?

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they laid it, don't you know? I love you

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 2>sweet laid?

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Is that part of the same song? Uh huh Oh,

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that sounds a little nicer than some of the things

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I hear now. I'm not saying it's oh yeah, I see.

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean Tupac was lyrically pretty brilliant if you ask me.

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>And I think Tupac and Biggie.

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Both people argue Biggie more so their music can still

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.320
<v Speaker 3>survive today, Like it doesn't sound like if you if

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 3>if Biggie's song music come out today, it was just

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 3>the sound of it.

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>It still sound like it fits.

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Right in that song that you just sang, that's your

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Mama is different.

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 2>And I said Biggie specifically, and that was Tupac.

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know, Biggie, I think I was in elementary

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 1>school or something.

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you just hitting a Tasby.

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, okay, that that would be cool. I

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>ask to that.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, with a little different behind the scenes music.

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:07.879
<v Speaker 2>White Girls Dissect Pip Hof.

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I nobody listened to any of that.

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you can take away the Forge and you

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 3>know that you need to watch the documentary. Yeah, and

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 3>next week, since we didn't get to it, we have

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 3>got to talk about what items in your house you

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 3>need to fire because I think this is such a

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 3>great way. This is coming from a Harvard professor, And

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about it next Tuesday, like get rid of

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 3>before the new year. Yeah, it's like every time you

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 3>buy an item, think of it this way. When you

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 3>buy an item, you're hiring it. To do a job,

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 3>and then what happens at the end of the year

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 3>or beginning of the year, like you take you do

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 3>a review, like at work you do an end of

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 3>year review or a start of the year review, like

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 3>reflecting on the work that this person or thing has done.

0:49:57.800 --> 0:49:59.959
<v Speaker 3>And so if you look at items that way, because

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 3>sometimes we hold on to so much stuff. So we're

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 3>going to dive into that and it's gonna help us

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 3>start twenty twenty.

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Six strong and fresh.

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by firing a bunch of stuff at our house.

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Ready, Yeah, Okay, don't fire that picture.

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Well it's going to be it's not fired, but it's

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 3>not working. It's it's retired, yes, yes, retired. So if

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 3>you fire it, it's gone. If you retire it, it

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 3>stays in the attic, yeah, or the basement or whatever.

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 3>So we'll come up with the whole thing and that

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe next Tuesday we can focus on like that'll be

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 3>our theme.

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>H Yeah, I like that.

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Yay. All right, So most importantly, half the day you

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 2>need to have bye bye