Speaker 1: Good break it down. If you ever have feelings that
Speaker 1: you just won't Amy and Cat got your covin locking. No, brother,
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Speaker 1: Just stop you feel things. This is feeling things with
Speaker 1: Amy and Kat.
Speaker 3: Happy Thursday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Kat,
Speaker 3: and I have two feelings of the day. It's content
Speaker 3: and confused, and I have more thoughts on my confused one,
Speaker 3: so we can save that. If you've got any feelings.
Speaker 1: Well, I have two feelings. Your feelings are an alliteration,
Speaker 1: and my feelings are also alliteration. I love liliteration.
Speaker 2: I love one alliteration.
Speaker 1: It's the one like I don't know what you would
Speaker 1: call that thing I remember learning in elementary school about writing.
Speaker 1: They're like, it impacts your writing and makes your writing
Speaker 1: better when you have an alliteration.
Speaker 2: It just also makes it more fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I am feeling sentimental and scared, which is
Speaker 1: kind of similar to you, because you have like a
Speaker 1: kind one and a e one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's its own category. Of feelings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have one where I think I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm willing the contentment in or I
Speaker 3: actually really feel content. I really do, But I also
Speaker 3: want to maintain that through the end of the year
Speaker 3: because I think this is the time of year where
Speaker 3: things can get a little frazzled and out of control
Speaker 3: because of so much that happens during the holidays. Okay,
Speaker 3: like you got cross Like from Thanksgiving to New Year's
Speaker 3: there's just a lot, and you're trying to tackle a
Speaker 3: lot on your list. Maybe you're hosting, you've got people over,
Speaker 3: You're trying to finalize gifts, You're stressed on what to
Speaker 3: get this final person. You have to wrap everything you know,
Speaker 3: depending on where you are and the like what stage
Speaker 3: of life, because your twenties might be a little bit easier.
Speaker 3: If you're the youngest in the family, it's a little easier. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like if you're the oldest and you plain everything all
Speaker 3: the moms, Like, there's just a lot. So I am
Speaker 3: trying to be You're choosing choosing to be content in
Speaker 3: each day and look for things that bring me peace
Speaker 3: and things that I have to be thankful for instead
Speaker 3: of getting like swept up in and I think too.
Speaker 2: The problem is so many people online want to.
Speaker 3: Talk about the hustle and the bustle and how overwhelming
Speaker 3: it is, which we're sort of talking about that right
Speaker 3: now because that's just the truth. But when you think
Speaker 3: about it and you see it everywhere, then.
Speaker 2: You take it on yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I want to leave shown that from my algorithm
Speaker 3: and I just want to be in my own I
Speaker 3: am content, Like I am content with some gifts that
Speaker 3: I got. There were some that I was stressing over
Speaker 3: and then finally I just had a point where I
Speaker 3: was like, no, this shouldn't be stressful. I think this
Speaker 3: is a good gift for this person and that is okay,
Speaker 3: Like I am ordering it and it shall be fine,
Speaker 3: and if.
Speaker 4: They don't like it, they'll return it and buy something.
Speaker 2: They're like, yes, I'll throw in a closet or they'll
Speaker 2: regift it, which, hey, the gift that keeps selling gag. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 2: So why are you scared?
Speaker 4: Okay, because I have a question for you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm scared or I feel scared
Speaker 1: for people, but I do want to mention my sentimental
Speaker 1: is actually very close to what you're talking about, because
Speaker 1: I was feeling like the time's going to rush past
Speaker 1: me and I'm not gonna enjoy the holiday because I'm
Speaker 1: stressing about gifts. So I chose to be sentimental. So
Speaker 1: I started like, I need to watch this Christmas movie
Speaker 1: and I need to make this Christmas cookie that I
Speaker 1: make every year, and I need to do so. I
Speaker 1: was feeling that was helping me stay in it versus
Speaker 1: worrying about those things. Anyway, we're shunning that. I'm scared
Speaker 1: for others because I have been watching The Reckoning.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that is why I'm confused. I did
Speaker 3: not know that's why you were scared, but my confusion
Speaker 3: is from the Reckoning. So I'm confused how Diddy went
Speaker 3: this long without any consequences.
Speaker 1: Because people are scared of him. Okay, yeah, that's valid.
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear a lot of your thoughts because
Speaker 1: I've only watched one in three fourths of an episode.
Speaker 4: How many are there?
Speaker 2: There's four? Okay, I think there's four, and I've watched
Speaker 2: them all.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you have more information. There is a man
Speaker 1: in this documentary who is fine being out there in
Speaker 1: this documentary. I will say when I first started watching this,
Speaker 1: I turned it off because I said, and in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm boycotting Netflix. I can't believe they would
Speaker 1: do this because it seems at first because they have
Speaker 1: footage of Sean Combs p Diddy puff that you would
Speaker 1: think would come from him, like it was like in
Speaker 1: his hotel room, Like, how would you get this content?
Speaker 1: I thought he was putting this do documentary now to
Speaker 1: like clear his name at first.
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 4: So I turned it off.
Speaker 2: Fifty cent is behind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well then I learned that. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I can watch it now. The man that's in it,
Speaker 1: it was like one of the it's one of the
Speaker 1: main guys. It's a documentary. If you haven't watched this yet.
Speaker 2: So you're talking about the co founder of Bad Blood Records,
Speaker 2: Kirk Burrows.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Sean Comes. I'm gonna call him by his
Speaker 1: god given name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like what are we calling him? Because I have
Speaker 3: thoughts too, So we're just gonna let's just colimb Sean.
Speaker 4: Sean well come, Sean. He doesn't deserve a nickname.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's still alive and he's not even gonna he's
Speaker 1: in prison now, right, But he's.
Speaker 2: Not gonna be in there for that long, unfortunately, unfortunately.
Speaker 1: So I guess I'm scared because what he has done
Speaker 1: to so many people, seemingly it's all suspicion, he could
Speaker 1: do to you too. So this guy that used to
Speaker 1: be very close to him is right hand man, is
Speaker 1: now giving all the dirty deats. Why is he not
Speaker 1: scared of retaliation? I was thinking about you the whole
Speaker 1: time I was watching. I was like, Amy would never
Speaker 1: do that, she would take it to the grave because
Speaker 1: she'd be afraid of retaliation.
Speaker 3: Well, I thought the same thing too, And maybe you
Speaker 3: just haven't gotten to this part of the show. And
Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil too much if people haven't
Speaker 3: watched it. But Sean has an assistant, a former assistant
Speaker 3: that also comes on and shares, and she was part
Speaker 3: of the trial and testified and everything, and she this
Speaker 3: is the first time she's ever spoken out, like when
Speaker 3: you want to talk about taking things to your grave, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's what she planned on doing. She's like, this
Speaker 2: is just not what I do.
Speaker 1: Like I don't you know, because she was scared or
Speaker 1: because she just probably just like the.
Speaker 3: Rules of the game like this, you know, she was just,
Speaker 3: this is not the business I'm in, Like I was
Speaker 3: there to do my job, and I did my job.
Speaker 3: And then later she realized like, oh okay, I need
Speaker 3: to share my side of the story. And it was
Speaker 3: interesting because they also interviewed jurors in the show and
Speaker 3: to see how the jurors were, Like, it blew my
Speaker 3: mind how they were taking her testimony because I was
Speaker 3: thinking I believed everything she said, and it's like some
Speaker 3: people questioned it, which also leads us to the confusion
Speaker 3: behind why he got off on so much and he's
Speaker 3: not serving as much time. So the whole thing has
Speaker 3: just left me perplexed. And I get the whole thing
Speaker 3: of fear, because yes, retaliation is one of.
Speaker 1: My biggest fears.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I would be very scared, and I have wondered.
Speaker 3: I wondered the same thing that you're wondering, like does
Speaker 3: he have access to this documentary? Can he watch it
Speaker 3: in jail? Will he watch it when he gets out?
Speaker 3: Are his people going to tell him this is who
Speaker 3: was in the documentary, this is exactly what they said,
Speaker 3: this is what they accused you of. And then yeah,
Speaker 3: now he's gonna retaliate. But I feel like at some
Speaker 3: point he has to be off of his throne.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever throwne.
Speaker 2: Certain people have him on, Like how will he have
Speaker 2: any power when he gets out?
Speaker 1: I don't know, well who's on his side? Is there
Speaker 1: anybody on his side still? Like who was supporting him
Speaker 1: through his trial?
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, people in his family ish. I don't
Speaker 3: know exactly which family members, but yes, there are people,
Speaker 3: a lot of fans. They were out at the trial
Speaker 3: with like signs. I remember seeing it when the trial
Speaker 3: was going on, like people outside with like a freak
Speaker 3: doesn't make you guilty, you know, because he's like a
Speaker 3: sexually a freak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I'm gonna ask this. You can use
Speaker 1: her discretion how much you information she want to give me.
Speaker 1: Were any of the.
Speaker 4: Jurors like I wish I would have?
Speaker 2: I didn't get that vibe.
Speaker 4: Okay no, oh so they were like, yeah, he's not guilty.
Speaker 2: No, they weren't like that either.
Speaker 3: One girl that they talked to, she's like went in
Speaker 3: she was like, oh my gosh, I was a huge
Speaker 3: fan growing up. Another guy that was me and was
Speaker 3: like I knew nothing about this guy.
Speaker 4: Wait, can you be on the jury.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying sorry, let me rephrase. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: she was like I was a big fan, but it's like,
Speaker 3: well Kat saying that she was, but I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't know how they could weed through people that
Speaker 3: didn't listen to that music. I think she clarified by
Speaker 3: saying I listened to music that he was a part of,
Speaker 3: but she was like, I wasn't a fan of his
Speaker 3: music personally, Okay, like she wasn't like because he was
Speaker 3: an individual artist as well, but I think she was
Speaker 3: more so a fan of the artists under his label,
Speaker 3: which I think there is a difference because like I
Speaker 3: listened to Biggie and I liked when he was on
Speaker 3: Mace's album, Like in high school, that's one of the
Speaker 3: albums I remember listening to. And then I love Tupac
Speaker 3: a different record label. But I learned through this documentary
Speaker 3: like I missed because so much of the feud was
Speaker 3: happening all these years, or that's kind of like East
Speaker 3: Coast West Coast. Like I even have a shirt that
Speaker 3: has Tupac on one side and Biggie on the other
Speaker 3: and it says East.
Speaker 2: Coast, West Coast, And where did you get that?
Speaker 3: I don't know I think I ordered it online because
Speaker 3: my friend maybe bought it for me, and she thought
Speaker 3: of me because I liked both of them.
Speaker 1: He was just smoking SIGs and wearing your East Coast
Speaker 1: West coast shit.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was a big fan of both.
Speaker 1: And did you understand the feud back then? Did anybody
Speaker 1: on the outside?
Speaker 2: I think a little bit we knew.
Speaker 3: I I don't think I knew Diddy's involvement in the feud,
Speaker 3: And I forgot until I watched the documentary that they
Speaker 3: were all cordial and friends, like they would hang out.
Speaker 3: Tupac and Bigie got along just fine until Tupac showed
Speaker 3: up at Diddy's studios one day to record a song
Speaker 3: with one of Diddy's artists and end up getting shot
Speaker 3: five times. Yeah, and they lived and lived, and then
Speaker 3: two years later he ends up dead.
Speaker 4: So is this why you might not know this either?
Speaker 4: But so fifty Cent made this documentary? Okay?
Speaker 3: Is this why he I had to research this? What
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, is this why he doesn't like Diddy?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, is this why he always
Speaker 1: wore a vest? Was that thing?
Speaker 2: Well? Fifty Cent got shot like fifty times or nine.
Speaker 1: Fifty. He lived.
Speaker 2: He got shot, so I think he had his experience
Speaker 2: with getting shot.
Speaker 1: He shot him. I don't remember because it was a
Speaker 1: no okay, no, sorry. I don't mean to spread rumors.
Speaker 3: I now some people might be like, what the heck?
Speaker 3: I don't care about any of this, But if you
Speaker 3: want a documentary, you will be fascinated.
Speaker 1: Because Diddy is Sean.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Sean has such a massive stamp on wrap
Speaker 3: and even pop culture.
Speaker 1: From Dannity Kin.
Speaker 4: Hello, yes, did they get to that? They talk about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Aubrey O Day is a documentary.
Speaker 4: I love making the band, so did I.
Speaker 3: I remember when Danity Kane came to ninety six seven
Speaker 3: KISSFM in Austin because you know, I used to work
Speaker 3: in pop. So they came up to the station and
Speaker 3: did a meet and greet with our listeners in our
Speaker 3: radio listening lounge, and my college roommate like called me
Speaker 3: at the time.
Speaker 2: She was like, is Danity Kane coming up to the station.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, She's like I have to come,
Speaker 3: and so I got her in and then we have
Speaker 3: our picture with Danity Kan and he was cool.
Speaker 2: It was a big deal. Then Jlo obviously dating her
Speaker 2: than all of you know his music.
Speaker 4: Like said anything about that?
Speaker 1: I know of it, okay, because she probably had some trauma.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how did she date him?
Speaker 1: But we don't know the insides of her life, so
Speaker 1: I don't She talks about being from the Bronx alot,
Speaker 1: so maybe she, like I don't know, from talk about
Speaker 1: being tough.
Speaker 2: From the block.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what I thought that during the documentary,
Speaker 3: like how is Jlo even? I just have her in
Speaker 3: a different category and I don't know her, so I
Speaker 3: don't know why I have her in that category.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, how was she attracted to him?
Speaker 3: And was he Maybe he had different sides of himself
Speaker 3: that would show up for different people, even sexually.
Speaker 4: They fully were in a relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah for years, sure, but you can still have different
Speaker 2: versions of you, right, I'm not just psyching from experience,
Speaker 2: but I would think a person like him can be
Speaker 2: a chameleon and show up for like how he was
Speaker 2: with Cassie, how he was with Kim Porter, how he
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Like Cassie.
Speaker 1: I also loved her And do you know where I
Speaker 1: first found her? Discovered in the club young really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I first discussed her because she was a model for
Speaker 1: the DLIAZ catalog.
Speaker 4: Did you have a shop at diliaz?
Speaker 1: I bet you know. Deliaz was my favorite place to shop,
Speaker 1: and she was their main model. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden she was singing me and.
Speaker 3: You I've just been late and so long as yeah anyway,
Speaker 3: So I did a little research of my own because
Speaker 3: I didn't know what fifty cents a deal was with
Speaker 3: this whole thing. So fifty Cent says he made the
Speaker 3: Netflix doc Shawan Comb's The Reckoning to give victims a
Speaker 3: voice and to call out abuse in the hip hop industry.
Speaker 3: He says it's feud with Diddy just made him less
Speaker 3: afraid to do it, but Cassie's lawsuit and the serious
Speaker 3: allegations were the real push. He felt no one else
Speaker 3: would speak up, so he used his platform to expose
Speaker 3: behavior he believes the industry shouldn't ignore. And his issues
Speaker 3: with did He go back years, starting with him accusing
Speaker 3: Diddy of being tied to Biggie's death in a two
Speaker 3: thousand and six disk track. From there, it turned into
Speaker 3: business tension, creative clashes, and fifty Cent saying that Diddy
Speaker 3: treated artists unfairly, which he did.
Speaker 4: Was he ever on fifty cent ever on what record label?
Speaker 1: Was he not bad Boy? I don't And can I
Speaker 1: have another question, how old is fifty cent? Are they
Speaker 1: the same age? Because to me, fifty Cents was a
Speaker 1: lot younger than Sean really in my head, because I
Speaker 1: remember fifty set was really cool when I was in
Speaker 1: high school, and I feel like Sean was.
Speaker 4: When I was like in middle school.
Speaker 3: Which is I guess they popped off because I feel
Speaker 3: like I picture them being the same. I remember like
Speaker 3: Diddy stuff and then Lunchbox on the show when we
Speaker 3: worked in Pop. He flew to Vegas and got to
Speaker 3: hang out with fifty Cent, and he went in with
Speaker 3: like all these chains, yeah, like trying to act all
Speaker 3: like hardcore, like the skinny white boy.
Speaker 1: Walking and he was like yeah, yeah, so okay, so
Speaker 1: same age.
Speaker 3: Anyway, fifty Cent said that Diddy's behavior made him uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: and all of that eventually fed into fifty Cent producing
Speaker 3: the documentary and he just has not liked him for
Speaker 3: a long time.
Speaker 4: So here's the problem that I'm having right now.
Speaker 2: So he must not be scared of retaliation.
Speaker 4: I don't think fifty cents scared of anybody. Probably rightfully.
Speaker 1: So here's my problem I'm having right now, which I
Speaker 1: need to like center this because I hear that, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, fifty cent is such a good guy. He
Speaker 1: must be such a good guy, Like good for him.
Speaker 1: But I'm not doing any critical thinking there, like I'm
Speaker 1: sure that well I shouldn't say that either, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like, but because he'd made this to then
Speaker 1: give victims a voice, which is I think, all great,
Speaker 1: Like I'm glad that he made this documentary, but it's
Speaker 1: also very biased. So how am I going to take
Speaker 1: in this documentary through an unbiased lens?
Speaker 4: That makes sense?
Speaker 1: Like all the people in that documentary obviously hate Sean Combs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is one of those things where
Speaker 2: there's smoke, there's fire.
Speaker 4: I do think he's a bad guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm thinking, like, when only one side
Speaker 1: is telling their story, it's like, well, the other side,
Speaker 1: the side that's telling their story, probably did some messed
Speaker 1: up things too. Oh does that make sense I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I feel like now I'm like fifty cent is a saint,
Speaker 1: and like, Okay, I should not go that far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we need to because you have
Speaker 2: no idea.
Speaker 3: But I think of you brought up the Kirk guy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the co founder of bad Boy Records. I think of
Speaker 3: things that Sean asked him to do, and he is
Speaker 3: now telling us his version, which is that is wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that, which led to him
Speaker 3: getting fired. Now are there things over the years we
Speaker 3: have no idea what Kirk did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean he was in partnership with this guy, like
Speaker 3: who knows what we're getting a little bit, a little
Speaker 3: bit of the story that doesn't And.
Speaker 4: There was a puppet master and they were all like
Speaker 4: his Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, I just don't I think, yes, we're hearing those sides.
Speaker 3: But who knows how innocent certain people are in all
Speaker 3: of this.
Speaker 4: But we can agree that this person was bad and
Speaker 4: this over here is like not that ye, Like.
Speaker 3: Who knows what thinks sort of things fifty cent has done?
Speaker 3: I don't know because people haven't come up with that
Speaker 3: documentary yet.
Speaker 4: Here's a question, Nelly, what about him?
Speaker 1: Nelly? What about him?
Speaker 2: What about Nelly?
Speaker 1: I think of like Nelly, seems like he's married to
Speaker 1: a shanty now, right, did they just.
Speaker 5: Have a baby?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But I think he's from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Okay, That's what's my question is like these are are
Speaker 1: they like on different record labels, so like they're not
Speaker 1: in this drama. But because I think of Nelly around
Speaker 1: the same time I think of fifty cent Okay.
Speaker 3: So here's the easy way to do this, Okay, Like
Speaker 3: that would be like we live in Nashville, so we
Speaker 3: have all of these country artists, right, There's all multiple
Speaker 3: labels here that people are part of, so like there's
Speaker 3: not just like just because there's a country artist feud
Speaker 3: maybe doesn't mean that like every artist stupid.
Speaker 1: I just like, where was Nelly in all of this drama?
Speaker 1: He was in Atlanta?
Speaker 3: I mean because they go over all the artists that
Speaker 3: were on there was East Coast, West Coast, so like
Speaker 3: Snoop dog was with two doctors and then I don't
Speaker 3: even remember all the ones on Yeah Sean's.
Speaker 4: But Snoop Dogg doesn't make an appearance, does he?
Speaker 1: So death Row?
Speaker 2: No, Snoop Dogg is not in the documentary, but I
Speaker 2: mean he is by proxy, yes, because he was part
Speaker 2: of the Throw Records and Lazy Yeah, death Row and
Speaker 2: then bad Boy, Yeah you are a bad Boy? Was
Speaker 2: that like foreshadowing.
Speaker 1: One of those bad boy like it's cool to bad
Speaker 1: bad You know what makes me think of I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was a vine or like a reel
Speaker 1: or whatever of that little kid that's like, I like
Speaker 1: to do bad things with my friends.
Speaker 4: It's cool to do bad things.
Speaker 1: You know I'm talking about anyway now, I'm talking about like,
Speaker 1: look at you like to do It's cool to do
Speaker 1: bad things. He took his grandma's car out and drove
Speaker 1: it around the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: He was like six, Oh, well, that part I think
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 4: He was it's cool to do bad things. I like
Speaker 4: to do bad things with my friends. That is bad.
Speaker 3: I mean, it definitely took me on a journey, like
Speaker 3: I was googling stuff, like trying to figure out like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: the order of events, like Tupac got shot, he survived,
Speaker 3: then he gets shot again in Vegas where Sugar Night.
Speaker 1: Speaking of I've never heard of that man before. Did
Speaker 1: you know who that was before?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh you did, Yeah, well I've heard of him. I
Speaker 1: had never heard of him because he was not he
Speaker 1: never had music.
Speaker 2: He was just the man in charge record label. I
Speaker 2: think CEO or president or one.
Speaker 1: This is kind of what I was saying with like
Speaker 1: the fifty cent thing, this might be a better example.
Speaker 1: I watched that documentary and in my head, Suge Knight
Speaker 1: is such a good guy. Now hear me what I've said.
Speaker 1: I I've watched one and a half of them, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's the good guy because it feels
Speaker 1: so binary to me, of like these are the good
Speaker 1: guys and these are the bad guys. But it sounds
Speaker 1: like there was lots of not great things going on.
Speaker 1: We're just getting one part of the not great things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there was gang affiliations with all of these people.
Speaker 3: So I don't know that I classify anybody that can
Speaker 3: call up a blood or a crip as.
Speaker 4: Like a good guy.
Speaker 1: I feel like Snoop Dogg's really yeah yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he he has a cookbook. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Marcus Marker Martin Stewart also questions, well, she went to jail, yeah,
Speaker 1: and her documentary. You watched that, right, Yes, her documentary.
Speaker 1: I was like, how did you approve that to get Well,
Speaker 1: maybe she didn't. That did not paint her in a
Speaker 1: good light whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I just googled generically, is sug Night a
Speaker 3: good guy?
Speaker 4: Where is he a bad boy?
Speaker 3: So it says allegations mounted that Night, beyond employing gang members,
Speaker 3: often used intimidation and violence in his business dealings. From
Speaker 3: the late nineteen nineties to early two thousands, Night spent
Speaker 3: a few years incarcerated for assault convictions and associated violations
Speaker 3: of probation and parole. So I don't know, like compared
Speaker 3: to maybe things did he was doing?
Speaker 2: Sure, is there a scale?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like from the spectrum, right, So Shug's here, Shawn's
Speaker 1: down over here for what we know, for what we know,
Speaker 1: Like this is stuff that we know. That's what we know. Well, okay, Also,
Speaker 1: anybody listen. I mean, I have no idea what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: That is clear because you're like, wait a second.
Speaker 1: Where's Nelly?
Speaker 2: There's other rappers.
Speaker 1: We're leading people out.
Speaker 3: So Jlo and Sean were together roughly two years on
Speaker 3: and off again, that is so not so. And Diddy
Speaker 3: is five years older than fifty cent by the way,
Speaker 3: since you were asking his age, and then Nellie was
Speaker 3: primarily signed to Universal Records.
Speaker 4: It sounds more wholesome and yeah.
Speaker 2: That's more Universal, just kidding.
Speaker 4: So his son, do you know? Is his son? In
Speaker 4: this documentary? Or his son like pro him Sean Sean son.
Speaker 3: Okay, So there are other like, uh, he's in the
Speaker 3: hotel room when he's this is like six days before
Speaker 3: his arrest, and it's the footage that's him leading up
Speaker 3: to his arrest, you know, the footage that I don't
Speaker 3: know how they got that, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, the footage you were confused about.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, when they're in the hotel room, he's talking.
Speaker 3: To his lawyer, yeah, or he's talking to everybody. He'll
Speaker 3: be on the phone like he'll head. He keeps saying
Speaker 3: over and over, he's like, God told me to do nothing,
Speaker 3: so y'all need to do it. Like, y'all got to
Speaker 3: figure out how we're going to solve this because God
Speaker 3: has told me to do nothing.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why does he keep saying that.
Speaker 4: God is telling you to do to stop doing bad things?
Speaker 2: Right? Is that?
Speaker 4: Like the talk about manipulative avoiding.
Speaker 3: And victim mode of like I I can't do this
Speaker 3: is not my problem. This is now y'all have to
Speaker 3: figure it out because God told me to just do nothing.
Speaker 3: And he's on the phone and he keeps saying that,
Speaker 3: and anyway, there's people in his hotel room and their
Speaker 3: last name was Combs, and he was like, justin or so,
Speaker 3: who is that?
Speaker 1: Is that his son? Okay?
Speaker 2: It is his son?
Speaker 3: Because yeah, I tried to google the children and then
Speaker 3: I couldn't remember the name from the documentary and then
Speaker 3: the old the children that he has because.
Speaker 1: There's lots and where I am he only has one son, Okay,
Speaker 1: well he has lots.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, six or seven kids and from
Speaker 3: maybe four different baby mamas, and my level of I
Speaker 3: really care about this died, so like in the middle
Speaker 3: of my googling, Like I was like, should I go
Speaker 3: back to the documentary and figure out what name was
Speaker 3: on the screen and who was in the hotel room
Speaker 3: and cross reference it with all the children? And then
Speaker 3: I just really didn't care. But I didn't know if
Speaker 3: it was like a cousin or some other sibling with
Speaker 3: the same last name. But he did have people, He
Speaker 3: has people, you know, hanging out with him. And then
Speaker 3: he was arrested. Did he invite his son to the
Speaker 3: I don't even want to say it, the parties? Well,
Speaker 3: I remember when he was first being accused of a
Speaker 3: lot of this, and he was facetiming his family like
Speaker 3: saying we're going to figure this out. And they were
Speaker 3: publicizing this stuff on social media because to look, they
Speaker 3: thought it would be a good look of like, yeah,
Speaker 3: get on FaceTime with your family and tell them it's
Speaker 3: all going to be all right. I'm paraphrasing, but it
Speaker 3: was like, you know this, we're going to get this
Speaker 3: worked out, which I'm sure he really and he sort
Speaker 3: of did in a way like it's not as bad
Speaker 3: as it should have been on him. Right, I have
Speaker 3: one last important question, and I don't know if I
Speaker 3: have the answer.
Speaker 4: Probably well, no, this is more personal. This isn't even
Speaker 4: really a question.
Speaker 1: This is just a thought.
Speaker 4: Who was his attorney? And how do you agree to
Speaker 4: be his attorney?
Speaker 3: Okay, so because he has so much money, I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure he hired like eight powerful attorneys.
Speaker 2: I guess like, yes, there are eight dirty attorneys.
Speaker 1: Yes, like you can.
Speaker 3: Find people as long I would say, yes, like we
Speaker 3: have certain levels of integrity.
Speaker 2: Maybe they were presented with.
Speaker 3: Facts where they felt like he's being treated unfairly and
Speaker 3: we want to prove that.
Speaker 2: Maybe they really feel like he didn't do X y Z.
Speaker 1: Even though there's if you're an answer, this isn't a
Speaker 1: you might not know the answer this, but I do
Speaker 1: want to raise this question. If you're an attorney, do
Speaker 1: you have to believe your client or can you know
Speaker 1: that your client did something bad and still it up
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's attorney client privileges, right, So.
Speaker 1: Like, let's say I murdered somebody and I hired you
Speaker 1: as my attorney. When I hired you, I said I
Speaker 1: didn't do it, but then I hired you and I
Speaker 1: was like, just so you know I did it. Can
Speaker 1: you still defend me? Or is that against the law
Speaker 1: because you know I did it and you have an admission.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's crazy, right because I guess that you need
Speaker 3: to get a lawyer on the line.
Speaker 1: Seriously, if you're a lawyer, let us know. I guess
Speaker 1: I could google this, But that is the same kind
Speaker 1: of this is he didn't well, I guess he may
Speaker 1: have murdered people. But the same thing, if you have
Speaker 1: all this evidence that points that your client was guilty,
Speaker 1: how do you you still have to defend them?
Speaker 3: So everybody has the right to an attorney. I see
Speaker 3: that on TV when people are getting arrested.
Speaker 2: Oh, like you have a right to the attorney in
Speaker 2: the court of law.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that.
Speaker 3: And so that's why you can get a court appointed
Speaker 3: attorney to represent you. And so someone may have to
Speaker 3: represent the guilty person, like, there's always going to be
Speaker 3: a person up there that has.
Speaker 1: To do their job.
Speaker 3: However, I'm thinking, if I'm an attorney and I start
Speaker 3: representing someone and they tell me they're innocent and I
Speaker 3: truly believe them, and then along the way I find
Speaker 3: out they're guilty, I think I have to fire them
Speaker 3: as a client.
Speaker 1: Right, that's my point. But like you, I guess that's integrity.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have updates from Shannon on this. Yes, an
Speaker 3: attorney can and must defend a guilty person because their
Speaker 3: ethical duty is to ensure that the state proves its
Speaker 3: case beyond a reasonable doubts.
Speaker 1: Oh so there, Okay, uphold.
Speaker 3: The client's constitutional rights and ensure a fair trial. Regardless
Speaker 3: of the lawyer's personal belief in the client's guilts. The
Speaker 3: lawyer's role isn't to judge factual guilt, but to challenge
Speaker 3: the prosecution's evidence, check police procedures, and secure the best
Speaker 3: legal outcome, whether that's dismissal, reduce charges.
Speaker 2: Or a fair sentence. Okay, this is why I was
Speaker 2: not going to be a lawyer. Just now we know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I probably wouldn't have passed the bar.
Speaker 1: But this is also that makes it a little bit
Speaker 1: different that like, if I am Sean's attorney, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to prove his innocence. I'm just trying to make
Speaker 1: sure that the state is doing their fair job of
Speaker 1: proving that this happened. I still wouldn't do it, just
Speaker 1: so everybody now.
Speaker 3: However, the vibe I got from his attorneys that were
Speaker 3: backing him is they were doing whatever they could do
Speaker 3: to get him the lightest sentence possible, and they were
Speaker 3: proud of their work. Like they didn't seem like like, oh,
Speaker 3: we don't want to be here. No, he retained them,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not like he didn't get a court
Speaker 3: appointed at all the time.
Speaker 4: They got job security after that.
Speaker 1: Don't think with him for life for any Yes, because
Speaker 1: I for sure I didn't pay a lot of attention
Speaker 1: to this because I was like, for sure, he's going
Speaker 1: to jail forever. Surely he is, and then he didn't.
Speaker 1: So I feel like if I'm in a pickle and
Speaker 1: I have the money and I did something similar. I'm
Speaker 1: calling those eight attorneys because if they can do it
Speaker 1: for him, they could do it for me, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And to clarify his children, he has seven, four
Speaker 2: different just I'm giving you the exact I wonder how
Speaker 2: the children are seven children, four different mothers. One of
Speaker 2: the babies I know was born in like twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: so like recent ish. I didn't plan on talking about
Speaker 2: this this long, So sorry if nobody cares about it,
Speaker 2: but I think it's interesting, interesting, and you should watch
Speaker 2: the documentary if you haven't yet. I mean talk about conversation.
Speaker 3: Starters at a dinner holiday party, like if you're at
Speaker 3: Christmas party or New Year's parties, like watch this and
Speaker 3: then like pull the room.
Speaker 1: You're literally at Christmas dinner and one of your uncles
Speaker 1: like starts bringing up politics, and you're like, well, actually
Speaker 1: have something better to talk about it. Let's do you
Speaker 1: think that Sean Comb's got a fair sentence? Also maybe
Speaker 1: testing to talk about a dinner because what if somebody says, yes, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: check his like well have you watched the Reckoning?
Speaker 2: Like check his history?
Speaker 3: Like anybody that is thinking that that, I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like we need to had you husband's had your kids
Speaker 3: from that person.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, last thing that I'll drop it. Okay, I
Speaker 1: promise he got fifty months?
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 2: Four years? There's twelve in one year? Twelve time?
Speaker 3: Or who's twenty four, thirty six, forty eight? Like four
Speaker 3: years and some change? So by change, I mean two months.
Speaker 1: He's already been in jail for a while. Prison, he's
Speaker 1: getting out soon? What's his soon?
Speaker 2: He's not getting out soon?
Speaker 1: Well, four years is not that long.
Speaker 2: I hope that somebody doesn't real bad to him in jail.
Speaker 4: Not like you better be careful what you said.
Speaker 1: He's not going to hear me say that we are
Speaker 1: going viral on TikTok and Instagram reels. Okay, well I
Speaker 1: would be careful.
Speaker 3: Don't put this part up there, okay. And I don't
Speaker 3: think any of our listeners are gonna sell me out.
Speaker 3: But you know, like I wonder if what he's what
Speaker 3: his life is like in prison, if he's getting great treatment,
Speaker 3: or if he's holding someone's pocket.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, holding somebody's pocket?
Speaker 4: Yeah, do I have to look that up?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: I think it's a way of like you know, you're
Speaker 3: somebody's boy. Oh so if he's the boy, yeah, he
Speaker 3: holds the pocket, he's not in charge.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, got it right?
Speaker 1: Like cool? You know lingo? I think you remember that?
Speaker 2: No? I remember that song from prison Break?
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't watch that.
Speaker 3: You don't watch prison Break with Wentworth Miller where he
Speaker 3: tattooed his escape plan on his body?
Speaker 4: No, that's crazy. But I did watch Orange is the
Speaker 4: New Black?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Very different? Yeah, very okay.
Speaker 4: So do we think he's going to go into hiding?
Speaker 4: Is my question?
Speaker 1: He has he cannot live in the United States. There's
Speaker 1: no life for him here.
Speaker 2: Who knows? Who knows? I don't know what he thinks.
Speaker 2: He thinks.
Speaker 3: He's like he compares himself to the Son of God.
Speaker 3: I believe in the documentary and I'm paraphrasing, he said
Speaker 3: something along those lines of like what else do we
Speaker 3: can compare me to?
Speaker 1: Like stop? No, he sounds like a version of Kanye West.
Speaker 1: What record label was Kanye West on? He wasn't in
Speaker 1: any of this.
Speaker 2: I think he was a did he supporter that tracks?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So in prison slang, holding someone's pocket means controlling, influencing,
Speaker 3: or protecting a weaker inmates. Oh, I was thinking it
Speaker 3: something dirt, like a little bee or a punk. Well,
Speaker 3: I think dirty things happen to the little bee.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: He provides favors or services in exchange for safety, got it?
Speaker 2: And status?
Speaker 3: You know certain acts also potentially being away for guards
Speaker 3: to manage inmates, or a tactic to keep someone indebted
Speaker 3: and under control. But unfortunately he's such a master manipulator.
Speaker 3: Like who knows?
Speaker 4: And do the people in prison have access to understand what.
Speaker 1: This is true?
Speaker 2: Yes? They do. Yeah, like people, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just thinking, like they can't watch the documentary so they
Speaker 1: can't like know the truth. But like I think they
Speaker 1: talk to people. I'm going to stop talking now.
Speaker 2: I wish we could know. I wish we could talk.
Speaker 2: Where is he because like we need to know, like,
Speaker 2: do you all have access to Netflix? Has he seen
Speaker 2: the reckoning? Yeah? Is he coming up with a plan
Speaker 2: to retell you in fifty cent.
Speaker 1: Imagine you're in prison and in walks shot combs. Okay,
Speaker 1: So rumor is per Cryocat that put this on ABC.
Speaker 4: Amy's not buying this?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I'm not saying I'm not buying it.
Speaker 1: Because they can only watch ABC in prison. I wonder
Speaker 1: why they can only watch.
Speaker 2: It, But I feel like, who, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: they have some deal, but I feel like people.
Speaker 1: Because he has Yeah, I feel like they they acquired the.
Speaker 3: P they have computers, they keysterin phones, they you know
Speaker 3: or you know, they have relationships with guards and they
Speaker 3: get like, I'm sure they can stream. I'm sure they're
Speaker 3: streaming some Christmas movies up in there all day harmony.
Speaker 3: Kanye West was not signed to a major record label
Speaker 3: as Recording our Artist during the period of the Tupac
Speaker 3: Biggie stuff. During that era, Kanye was primarily work as
Speaker 3: an aspiring producer for local artists in Chicago. But I
Speaker 3: do know at one of the award shows, Sean was
Speaker 3: receiving a Lifetime Achievement award at some point, and Kanye
Speaker 3: was one of the people that announced him to come
Speaker 3: on stage, giving him promise. But I think he had
Speaker 3: his face covered with like a T shirt, you know,
Speaker 3: speaking yes, because he was all weird, like he's speaking
Speaker 3: through like a shirt.
Speaker 2: Like all you could see was like a nose and
Speaker 2: a mouth moving in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, don't even get me started on the Kardashians seven.
Speaker 1: Watching that too, and I've thoughts, but I think we've
Speaker 1: done too much with I have to stop talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we can do something helpful for people if
Speaker 3: they are looking for small talk situations at Christmas parties
Speaker 3: or things that are coming up, and this is just
Speaker 3: a technique you can keep in your back pock.
Speaker 2: I've seen multiple people talk about it. This is probably
Speaker 2: because it's that time of year.
Speaker 3: But I googled it and I couldn't find exactly where
Speaker 3: it originated from because so many different people spoke about it.
Speaker 3: But it's called the Forge method Forge forge F O
Speaker 3: rge forge, which Shannon, maybe you can find if you know.
Speaker 3: I want to credit the right people, but I just
Speaker 3: feel like it was like a thing that has been
Speaker 3: floating out there. It's an acronym to keep conversations flowing
Speaker 3: by focusing on safe universal topics. So if you don't
Speaker 3: want to get into politics or Sean Combs, you can
Speaker 3: start with F, which is the beginning of forge. So
Speaker 3: what you do, Kat is like you're like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: talking to this new person. I'm horrible at small talk.
Speaker 4: What do I do?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Forge F is for family. I'm gonna ask them, So
Speaker 3: do you have family here, how many siblings do you have?
Speaker 3: Like any family specific type questions? Okay, that can be
Speaker 3: your go to. So what's a crazy family tradition that
Speaker 3: you guys have? So that's f Oh what do you
Speaker 3: think O stands for?
Speaker 4: Have you been outside lately? It's a good question.
Speaker 1: Occupation.
Speaker 3: So then you could ask questions like, you know, like obviously,
Speaker 3: what do you do for a living, or what's your
Speaker 3: dream job like or if you could do anything in
Speaker 3: the world, or if money didn't matter, what would you do?
Speaker 3: Or yeah, volunteer work, stuff that falls under occupation.
Speaker 4: I know there are what is it? Is it recreation?
Speaker 1: It is? What do you like to do for fun?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, you're catching on. Ask things like what do you
Speaker 3: like to do for fun? Got any hobbies that you're
Speaker 3: really into? And this part of the conversation is crucial
Speaker 3: because it's all about what makes them tick when they're
Speaker 3: off the clock, because like family stuff might be a
Speaker 3: little sensitive at times. Who wants to talk about work?
Speaker 2: Recreation can be a fun one because you're like exploring
Speaker 2: other sides of them.
Speaker 4: Have you gone on any cool vacations this year?
Speaker 2: Like what's the best vacation, what's the Oh that's that's
Speaker 2: not under our, that's under G.
Speaker 1: Forge.
Speaker 2: G is geography.
Speaker 3: I'm not gotten there ask things like have you traveled
Speaker 3: anywhere interesting lately? Or is there a place you'd like
Speaker 3: to visit someday?
Speaker 5: Okay, so don't ask that unless you're in the G category.
Speaker 5: Well this is so I'm just kidding. Well, to be clear,
Speaker 5: just so people know how to use it. It's just
Speaker 5: an acronym to keep in your back pocket. Like, you
Speaker 5: don't have to go in any particular order, but it's
Speaker 5: just something to pull from when you're sitting there talking
Speaker 5: to someone and you're feeling stuck or desperate, or like,
Speaker 5: oh how do I get through this?
Speaker 2: Or I'm so awkward? Then just forge it up?
Speaker 4: Forge it up?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 4: Is there an E on the end of forge?
Speaker 2: There is?
Speaker 4: Can I guess what it is?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: I have two guesses, entertainment or extracurricular activities.
Speaker 3: It's under experience. You can ask things like what's a
Speaker 3: cool experience you've had? Or have you learned anything important
Speaker 3: lately or life changing? There's like any experiences they might
Speaker 3: have done, any experiential therapy?
Speaker 1: Why yes, I have I like that because I yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate small talk. And that gives you like a
Speaker 1: quick reminder of there's easy things you can just ask about. Generally,
Speaker 1: when you ask people questions, they want to give you,
Speaker 1: they want to talk about that.
Speaker 4: Kind of stuff. Yeah, fun things.
Speaker 2: It just gives you a guide, yeah, like where to
Speaker 2: go with the small talk because it can be hard when.
Speaker 1: You think about Christmas and gift giving. Is there a
Speaker 1: gift that sticks out that was like a really weird
Speaker 1: gift that you got?
Speaker 4: Ever?
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to say because you don't
Speaker 1: want hurt some of these feelings, that's fine.
Speaker 4: But have you ever gotten like a I.
Speaker 2: Mean, it was for my birthday, but it wasn't for Christmas.
Speaker 4: Oh that's okay.
Speaker 2: Oh if it's the category. Yeah, well the time I
Speaker 2: think I told you this before, and I have the
Speaker 2: picture of my atticts off to show you one day.
Speaker 3: But the time that my husband when I was turning thirty,
Speaker 3: so is my ex husband now, But it was my
Speaker 3: thirtieth birthday and he gotthered all my friends at a
Speaker 3: local art gallery. We lived in downtown Southern Pines, North Carolina.
Speaker 3: There's this cute little art gallery and he had champagne
Speaker 3: there and cake and all my friends and then a
Speaker 3: canvas that was stenciled by an artist that worked at
Speaker 3: the gallery, and I was like, Oh, we're going to
Speaker 3: do like a paint by numbers, but not me.
Speaker 2: My friends were going to paint it. My friends were
Speaker 2: going to paint me a painting of me.
Speaker 1: I wish we had that painting down here. I know
Speaker 1: you still have it. It has Andy Warhol vibes, like
Speaker 1: the colors, yeah, like.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to. And then all my friends signed
Speaker 2: the back.
Speaker 3: But I was like Ben and he said, look, look
Speaker 3: look this just so you know, this wasn't my idea,
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to do this, and I thought we
Speaker 3: would just do a painting of something like scenery.
Speaker 2: A tree, maybe our dog. That would have been cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the person that worked at the gallery was like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, what if we do her? Like I
Speaker 3: would love to have a picture of me. And I
Speaker 3: think this person like literally had a picture of themselves
Speaker 3: hanging in their house, which some people do have portraits
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: That is great.
Speaker 2: This is not me.
Speaker 3: In fact, I mean Shannon should just go maybe Shannon,
Speaker 3: do you It's in the attic.
Speaker 1: You'll see it.
Speaker 2: You'll see it.
Speaker 3: Look to the left, like right after out of Stashira's closet,
Speaker 3: look to the left, it's bright colors.
Speaker 4: It's you can miss it.
Speaker 2: You can't miss it.
Speaker 1: It's me.
Speaker 4: Did you act like you were excited?
Speaker 2: I mean, what else was I supposed to act like?
Speaker 1: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I I think I acted just normal. I did not
Speaker 2: express my.
Speaker 1: Friends so cool.
Speaker 2: They probably thought it was weird too, like I would
Speaker 2: be like.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're painting you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. They were really sweet.
Speaker 3: That was an awkward thing. And then he and then
Speaker 3: he he sort of was sad that I didn't hang
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 4: Where was it gonna go?
Speaker 1: I do not know, because it did not.
Speaker 3: Go in our house, But like it also didn't turn
Speaker 3: out exactly like what I think he thought either, like nobody,
Speaker 3: I don't even know if.
Speaker 1: We finished it. Okay, don't show hair bread to me.
Speaker 2: I'll show it.
Speaker 1: It's so big.
Speaker 2: My friends signed the bag.
Speaker 1: That is so scary. Why is your hair like leopard?
Speaker 1: Because it was like I told you, like and I
Speaker 1: think that's the vibe. Did the teacher say like, hey,
Speaker 1: you go put this color here? Because I did some
Speaker 1: nice shade.
Speaker 3: It was like sketched with like there was pencil and
Speaker 3: then I guess then there was paint laying out and
Speaker 3: everybody got to fill it in. Okay, I don't know
Speaker 3: if there was paint by numbers. I don't remember if
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, three, four or five, and
Speaker 3: then the paint was labeled and then everybody did it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is not what I thought you
Speaker 1: were going to say when I asked this question. And
Speaker 1: also I'm just imagining. I think you should prank somebody
Speaker 1: that has not been to your house yet and hang
Speaker 1: it up because if I would have come to your
Speaker 1: house for the first time and I saw that, I'd
Speaker 1: be like I would first of all, I would probably
Speaker 1: compliment it because that would feel so awkward, like I
Speaker 1: love that painting that you commission it, Like I need
Speaker 1: somebody to say, technically.
Speaker 2: It was commissioned.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he paid her to host this party
Speaker 3: for us, and then my friends paint by numbered it.
Speaker 3: So the whole experience was my gift, which the experience
Speaker 3: was fun in itself, but this is what I walked
Speaker 3: away with.
Speaker 4: And you'll never forget.
Speaker 1: Okay, we have to invite something, well, you have to
Speaker 1: invite somebody over or just like put it up.
Speaker 4: Does Alex know about this?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, just hanging up one day and
Speaker 1: Alex comes over and be like, oh gosh, I found
Speaker 1: this painting.
Speaker 4: I think it looks so cute right here, And see
Speaker 4: what he says. That's how you know if he's gonna
Speaker 4: be honest with.
Speaker 3: You or not, he's gonna know I'm not serious this.
Speaker 3: There's nothing about this my like aesthetic anywhere. I can't
Speaker 3: think of anywhere in my house that that would go.
Speaker 3: Maybe the game room, but you maybe, yeah, that's where
Speaker 3: it's been. For gosh, that was fourteen years ago. And
Speaker 3: and and honestly, I felt so bad because Ben was like,
Speaker 3: you don't like the picture because.
Speaker 1: No, first of all, i'd.
Speaker 3: He took it personally, I think, you know, I think
Speaker 3: he was in it, like emotionally he was in it
Speaker 3: because he had planned this whole thing. And then it
Speaker 3: sort of went because it was a really sweet, very
Speaker 3: sweet idea. I just wish we would have done my dog,
Speaker 3: because like, how cute If we did Joe see my
Speaker 3: cute little Rottweiler and walked away with like, yeah, it
Speaker 3: be so something.
Speaker 2: It's still a brilliant idea.
Speaker 3: In fact, if anybody wants to take that idea and
Speaker 3: take it as your own for someone that you love,
Speaker 3: Like I think it's great, just don't do the person
Speaker 3: because then that makes it awkward because people are there
Speaker 3: celebrating you, painting you, and then this is what we
Speaker 3: end up with, Like the whole.
Speaker 1: Thing is just weird.
Speaker 3: But I think Ben was so emotionally involved in like
Speaker 3: the whole set, like he almost took that I didn't
Speaker 3: like the painting.
Speaker 2: Is that I didn't like the whole event? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: this caused issues. Well, okay, I was gonna say the
Speaker 2: fact that it was in the attic for years, like.
Speaker 4: Where was it in your last house?
Speaker 2: Attic looked in the attic, But I do time moved
Speaker 2: with it. I've hold on to it because I mean,
Speaker 2: with a.
Speaker 1: Memory, you can't get rid of that ever, Because what
Speaker 1: if somebody asked you this question again? Right?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, oh man, so have you gotten a
Speaker 2: gift that you hate?
Speaker 1: It's not that I hated it. I got a weird gift.
Speaker 1: It is gonna be nothing compared to this story. So
Speaker 1: just bear in mind. I wasn't expecting this. I just
Speaker 1: was thinking about it with all of the you know,
Speaker 1: Diddy stuff. One year for Christmas, I asked my parents
Speaker 1: for the R.
Speaker 4: Kelly CD.
Speaker 1: Because I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch.
Speaker 4: I love that song.
Speaker 1: It was my childhood song that I thought I actually
Speaker 1: could sing well. Favorite song, So I asked for the R.
Speaker 1: Kelly CD and my parents bought it for me. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, because one of the songs I was
Speaker 1: probably eleven mind you, I don't even think I believe
Speaker 1: I can if I was on the CD.
Speaker 4: But what was on the CD was the greatest sex.
Speaker 2: And like they didn't look at the titles of the songs.
Speaker 1: Sure, but like maybe I think I would have yeah,
Speaker 1: Like they didn't. They didn't flip the CD over. So
Speaker 1: it just was like a weird gift to get from
Speaker 1: my parents because also they weren't strict, but they weren't
Speaker 1: like they weren't like buying me rap CDs.
Speaker 4: So it's just a weird gift to get.
Speaker 3: Anytime I think of that song, I think of my
Speaker 3: ninth grade typing class because I had to take did
Speaker 3: you have to take a typing class in high school
Speaker 3: where you just sit there and you'd go, hey, hey
Speaker 3: A B.
Speaker 2: I mean you just sit there and learn how to take.
Speaker 4: You have the thing over the thing so you couldn't
Speaker 4: see the keys.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just remember sitting in typing class and my friends
Speaker 3: and I had that song was prob of the time,
Speaker 3: and we would sing.
Speaker 2: To leave I can type, press the keys and type
Speaker 2: away and we would type to that.
Speaker 4: What's sad is we have to that song could no
Speaker 4: longer be No, he's.
Speaker 2: Bad bad I'm gonna talk about a bad boy.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I wonder what's what record company he was on?
Speaker 2: Good question.
Speaker 4: I guess we'll ever know.
Speaker 1: We could google it.
Speaker 2: We can google it, Okay, Well, so there you have it.
Speaker 2: I think the big takeaways from today are forge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you can take away, small talk.
Speaker 3: Keep forge, your rapocket pocket, family, occupation, recreation, recreation, geography, experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah we're not. Oh, I didn't know if you're doing
Speaker 4: a wrap.
Speaker 2: No, but tupac dear mama is one of my specialties.
Speaker 4: Would you like to edit?
Speaker 3: When I was young, me and my mama had beef
Speaker 3: seventeen years old, kicked down on the streets back.
Speaker 2: In the time. I never thought of tuday. Ain't a
Speaker 2: woman alive that could take Mama's place. You sett in
Speaker 2: it from school, scared to go home. I was a
Speaker 2: fool with the big boys, breaking.
Speaker 1: All the rules.
Speaker 4: See, and he was so nice.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's not no, he's saying, dear mama,
Speaker 2: like and even though you're a crack queen Mama.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He said that crackphene or something.
Speaker 2: You always was a black queen mama.
Speaker 4: What's kind of sweet?
Speaker 3: Now he's talking about how like in wod Thinking elementary. Hey,
Speaker 3: I see the penitentiary one day running from the police.
Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, catch a whooping or mama, catchy, put
Speaker 3: a whooping to my backside.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: It's kind of compared to some things you hear. Now,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit cleaner, wouldn't you say? It's a
Speaker 1: left note to his mom?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they laid it, don't you know? I love you
Speaker 2: sweet laid?
Speaker 1: Is that part of the same song? Uh huh Oh,
Speaker 1: that sounds a little nicer than some of the things
Speaker 1: I hear now. I'm not saying it's oh yeah, I see.
Speaker 2: I mean Tupac was lyrically pretty brilliant if you ask me.
Speaker 2: And I think Tupac and Biggie.
Speaker 3: Both people argue Biggie more so their music can still
Speaker 3: survive today, Like it doesn't sound like if you if
Speaker 3: if Biggie's song music come out today, it was just
Speaker 3: the sound of it.
Speaker 2: It still sound like it fits.
Speaker 1: Right in that song that you just sang, that's your
Speaker 1: Mama is different.
Speaker 2: And I said Biggie specifically, and that was Tupac.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, Biggie, I think I was in elementary
Speaker 1: school or something.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just hitting a Tasby.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, that that would be cool. I
Speaker 1: ask to that.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, with a little different behind the scenes music.
Speaker 2: White Girls Dissect Pip Hof.
Speaker 4: Okay, I nobody listened to any of that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you can take away the Forge and you
Speaker 3: know that you need to watch the documentary. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: next week, since we didn't get to it, we have
Speaker 3: got to talk about what items in your house you
Speaker 3: need to fire because I think this is such a
Speaker 3: great way. This is coming from a Harvard professor, And
Speaker 3: we'll talk about it next Tuesday, like get rid of
Speaker 3: before the new year. Yeah, it's like every time you
Speaker 3: buy an item, think of it this way. When you
Speaker 3: buy an item, you're hiring it. To do a job,
Speaker 3: and then what happens at the end of the year
Speaker 3: or beginning of the year, like you take you do
Speaker 3: a review, like at work you do an end of
Speaker 3: year review or a start of the year review, like
Speaker 3: reflecting on the work that this person or thing has done.
Speaker 3: And so if you look at items that way, because
Speaker 3: sometimes we hold on to so much stuff. So we're
Speaker 3: going to dive into that and it's gonna help us
Speaker 3: start twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Six strong and fresh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by firing a bunch of stuff at our house.
Speaker 1: Ready, Yeah, Okay, don't fire that picture.
Speaker 3: Well it's going to be it's not fired, but it's
Speaker 3: not working. It's it's retired, yes, yes, retired. So if
Speaker 3: you fire it, it's gone. If you retire it, it
Speaker 3: stays in the attic, yeah, or the basement or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we'll come up with the whole thing and that
Speaker 3: maybe next Tuesday we can focus on like that'll be
Speaker 3: our theme.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: Yay. All right, So most importantly, half the day you
Speaker 2: need to have bye bye