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Speaker 1: ladies and folks, do you just follow Anna.

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Speaker 2: Spirit where it's all the front over real stuff to

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Speaker 1: Just stop you feel things. This is feeling things with

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Speaker 1: Amy and Kat.

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Speaker 3: Happy Thursday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Kat,

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Speaker 3: and I have two feelings of the day. It's content

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Speaker 3: and confused, and I have more thoughts on my confused one,

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Speaker 3: so we can save that. If you've got any feelings.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have two feelings. Your feelings are an alliteration,

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Speaker 1: and my feelings are also alliteration. I love liliteration.

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Speaker 2: I love one alliteration.

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Speaker 1: It's the one like I don't know what you would

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Speaker 1: call that thing I remember learning in elementary school about writing.

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Speaker 1: They're like, it impacts your writing and makes your writing

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Speaker 2: It just also makes it more fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I am feeling sentimental and scared, which is

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Speaker 1: kind of similar to you, because you have like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's its own category. Of feelings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have one where I think I

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Speaker 3: actually really feel content. I really do, But I also

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Speaker 3: because of so much that happens during the holidays. Okay,

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Speaker 3: like you got cross Like from Thanksgiving to New Year's

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Speaker 3: there's just a lot, and you're trying to tackle a

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Speaker 3: You're trying to finalize gifts, You're stressed on what to

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Speaker 3: like if you're the oldest and you plain everything all

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Speaker 3: trying to be You're choosing choosing to be content in

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Speaker 3: and things that I have to be thankful for instead

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Speaker 2: The problem is so many people online want to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about the hustle and the bustle and how overwhelming

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Speaker 3: now because that's just the truth. But when you think

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Speaker 3: So I want to leave shown that from my algorithm

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Speaker 4: They don't like it, they'll return it and buy something.

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Speaker 2: So why are you scared?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm scared or I feel scared

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Speaker 1: Because people are scared of him. Okay, yeah, that's valid.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you have more information. There is a man

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Sean Comes. I'm gonna call him by his

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Speaker 4: Sean well come, Sean. He doesn't deserve a nickname.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's still alive and he's not even gonna he's

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Speaker 1: So I guess I'm scared because what he has done

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Speaker 1: now giving all the dirty deats. Why is he not

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Speaker 1: Like I don't you know, because she was scared or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever throwne.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, well who's on his side? Is there

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Speaker 1: Were any of the.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get that vibe.

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Speaker 2: Coast, West Coast, And where did you get that?

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Speaker 3: I don't know I think I ordered it online because

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was a big fan of both.

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Speaker 1: And did you understand the feud back then? Did anybody

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Speaker 2: Well? Fifty Cent got shot like fifty times or nine.

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Speaker 3: I now some people might be like, what the heck?

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Speaker 3: I don't care about any of this, But if you

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Speaker 1: Because Diddy is Sean.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Sean has such a massive stamp on wrap

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Speaker 1: From Dannity Kin.

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Speaker 4: Hello, yes, did they get to that? They talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Aubrey O Day is a documentary.

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Speaker 3: I remember when Danity Kane came to ninety six seven

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Speaker 2: It was a big deal. Then Jlo obviously dating her

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, how was she attracted to him?

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Speaker 3: And was he Maybe he had different sides of himself

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Speaker 2: Yeah for years, sure, but you can still have different

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Speaker 3: You I've just been late and so long as yeah anyway,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what fifty cents a deal was with

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Speaker 3: He says it's feud with Diddy just made him less

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Speaker 3: with did He go back years, starting with him accusing

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Speaker 4: Was he ever on fifty cent ever on what record label?

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Speaker 1: Was he not bad Boy? I don't And can I

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Speaker 1: have another question, how old is fifty cent? Are they

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Speaker 1: remember fifty set was really cool when I was in

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Speaker 3: Which is I guess they popped off because I feel

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Speaker 3: Anyway, fifty Cent said that Diddy's behavior made him uncomfortable,

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Speaker 4: So here's the problem that I'm having right now.

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Speaker 1: So here's my problem I'm having right now, which I

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Speaker 1: I'm like, fifty cent is such a good guy. He

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Speaker 1: But I'm not doing any critical thinking there, like I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that well I shouldn't say that either, Like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Like, but because he'd made this to then

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Speaker 1: give victims a voice, which is I think, all great,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm glad that he made this documentary, but it's

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Speaker 1: also very biased. So how am I going to take

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Speaker 4: That makes sense?

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Speaker 1: Like all the people in that documentary obviously hate Sean Combs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is one of those things where

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Speaker 4: I do think he's a bad guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm thinking, like, when only one side

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Speaker 1: up things too. Oh does that make sense I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I feel like now I'm like fifty cent is a saint,

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Speaker 1: and like, Okay, I should not go that far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we need to because you have

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Speaker 3: But I think of you brought up the Kirk guy, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: now telling us his version, which is that is wrong.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that, which led to him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean he was in partnership with this guy, like

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Speaker 4: There was a puppet master and they were all like

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Speaker 3: Mean, I just don't I think, yes, we're hearing those sides.

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Speaker 3: But who knows how innocent certain people are in all

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Speaker 4: But we can agree that this person was bad and

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Speaker 3: Who knows what thinks sort of things fifty cent has done?

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Speaker 3: I don't know because people haven't come up with that

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Speaker 4: Here's a question, Nelly, what about him?

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Speaker 1: Nelly? What about him?

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Speaker 1: I think of like Nelly, seems like he's married to

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Speaker 5: Have a baby?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, That's what's my question is like these are are

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Speaker 1: the same time I think of fifty cent Okay.

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Speaker 3: So here's the easy way to do this, Okay, Like

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Speaker 1: I just like, where was Nelly in all of this drama?

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Speaker 3: I mean because they go over all the artists that

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Speaker 4: But Snoop Dogg doesn't make an appearance, does he?

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Speaker 1: So death Row?

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Speaker 2: No, Snoop Dogg is not in the documentary, but I

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Speaker 2: then bad Boy, Yeah you are a bad Boy? Was

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Speaker 1: One of those bad boy like it's cool to bad

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Speaker 1: know if it was a vine or like a reel

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Speaker 4: It's cool to do bad things.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm talking about anyway now, I'm talking about like,

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Speaker 4: He was it's cool to do bad things. I like

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Speaker 4: to do bad things with my friends. That is bad.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it definitely took me on a journey, like

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Speaker 1: Speaking of I've never heard of that man before. Did

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Oh you did, Yeah, well I've heard of him. I

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Speaker 2: He was just the man in charge record label. I

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Speaker 1: This is kind of what I was saying with like

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Speaker 1: I watched that documentary and in my head, Suge Knight

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Speaker 1: I I've watched one and a half of them, but

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he's the good guy because it feels

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Speaker 1: We're just getting one part of the not great things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because there was gang affiliations with all of these people.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know that I classify anybody that can

445
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Speaker 3: call up a blood or a crip as.

446
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Speaker 4: Like a good guy.

447
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: I feel like Snoop Dogg's really yeah yeah, I mean.

448
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he he has a cookbook. Yeah.

449
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Marker Martin Stewart also questions, well, she went to jail, yeah,

450
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: and her documentary. You watched that, right, Yes, her documentary.

451
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: I was like, how did you approve that to get Well,

452
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: maybe she didn't. That did not paint her in a

453
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Speaker 1: good light whatsoever.

454
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I just googled generically, is sug Night a

455
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: good guy?

456
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 4: Where is he a bad boy?

457
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,959
Speaker 3: So it says allegations mounted that Night, beyond employing gang members,

458
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: often used intimidation and violence in his business dealings. From

459
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: the late nineteen nineties to early two thousands, Night spent

460
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 3: a few years incarcerated for assault convictions and associated violations

461
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Speaker 3: of probation and parole. So I don't know, like compared

462
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Speaker 3: to maybe things did he was doing?

463
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Speaker 2: Sure, is there a scale?

464
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, like from the spectrum, right, So Shug's here, Shawn's

465
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: down over here for what we know, for what we know,

466
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Speaker 1: Like this is stuff that we know. That's what we know. Well, okay, Also,

467
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Speaker 1: anybody listen. I mean, I have no idea what I'm

468
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: talking about.

469
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 2: That is clear because you're like, wait a second.

470
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Speaker 1: Where's Nelly?

471
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: There's other rappers.

472
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: We're leading people out.

473
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Speaker 3: So Jlo and Sean were together roughly two years on

474
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: and off again, that is so not so. And Diddy

475
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 3: is five years older than fifty cent by the way,

476
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Speaker 3: since you were asking his age, and then Nellie was

477
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 3: primarily signed to Universal Records.

478
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Speaker 4: It sounds more wholesome and yeah.

479
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: That's more Universal, just kidding.

480
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Speaker 4: So his son, do you know? Is his son? In

481
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Speaker 4: this documentary? Or his son like pro him Sean Sean son.

482
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Speaker 3: Okay, So there are other like, uh, he's in the

483
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Speaker 3: hotel room when he's this is like six days before

484
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Speaker 3: his arrest, and it's the footage that's him leading up

485
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Speaker 3: to his arrest, you know, the footage that I don't

486
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 3: know how they got that, by the.

487
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Speaker 2: Way, the footage you were confused about.

488
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Speaker 4: Oh, yes, when they're in the hotel room, he's talking.

489
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Speaker 3: To his lawyer, yeah, or he's talking to everybody. He'll

490
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: be on the phone like he'll head. He keeps saying

491
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: over and over, he's like, God told me to do nothing,

492
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: so y'all need to do it. Like, y'all got to

493
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: figure out how we're going to solve this because God

494
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: has told me to do nothing.

495
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, why does he keep saying that.

496
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 4: God is telling you to do to stop doing bad things?

497
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Speaker 2: Right? Is that?

498
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 4: Like the talk about manipulative avoiding.

499
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 3: And victim mode of like I I can't do this

500
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: is not my problem. This is now y'all have to

501
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 3: figure it out because God told me to just do nothing.

502
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: And he's on the phone and he keeps saying that,

503
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 3: and anyway, there's people in his hotel room and their

504
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: last name was Combs, and he was like, justin or so,

505
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Speaker 3: who is that?

506
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Speaker 1: Is that his son? Okay?

507
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Speaker 2: It is his son?

508
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Speaker 3: Because yeah, I tried to google the children and then

509
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 3: I couldn't remember the name from the documentary and then

510
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: the old the children that he has because.

511
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Speaker 1: There's lots and where I am he only has one son, Okay,

512
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: well he has lots.

513
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Speaker 3: Like I don't know, six or seven kids and from

514
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Speaker 3: maybe four different baby mamas, and my level of I

515
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 3: really care about this died, so like in the middle

516
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: of my googling, Like I was like, should I go

517
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: back to the documentary and figure out what name was

518
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: on the screen and who was in the hotel room

519
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: and cross reference it with all the children? And then

520
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: I just really didn't care. But I didn't know if

521
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: it was like a cousin or some other sibling with

522
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 3: the same last name. But he did have people, He

523
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: has people, you know, hanging out with him. And then

524
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Speaker 3: he was arrested. Did he invite his son to the

525
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: I don't even want to say it, the parties? Well,

526
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Speaker 3: I remember when he was first being accused of a

527
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: lot of this, and he was facetiming his family like

528
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 3: saying we're going to figure this out. And they were

529
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: publicizing this stuff on social media because to look, they

530
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: thought it would be a good look of like, yeah,

531
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Speaker 3: get on FaceTime with your family and tell them it's

532
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: all going to be all right. I'm paraphrasing, but it

533
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: was like, you know this, we're going to get this

534
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Speaker 3: worked out, which I'm sure he really and he sort

535
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: of did in a way like it's not as bad

536
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 3: as it should have been on him. Right, I have

537
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: one last important question, and I don't know if I

538
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 3: have the answer.

539
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: Probably well, no, this is more personal. This isn't even

540
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 4: really a question.

541
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Speaker 1: This is just a thought.

542
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Speaker 4: Who was his attorney? And how do you agree to

543
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 4: be his attorney?

544
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so because he has so much money, I'm pretty

545
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: sure he hired like eight powerful attorneys.

546
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: I guess like, yes, there are eight dirty attorneys.

547
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: Yes, like you can.

548
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: Find people as long I would say, yes, like we

549
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 3: have certain levels of integrity.

550
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: Maybe they were presented with.

551
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: Facts where they felt like he's being treated unfairly and

552
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: we want to prove that.

553
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: Maybe they really feel like he didn't do X y Z.

554
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: Even though there's if you're an answer, this isn't a

555
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: you might not know the answer this, but I do

556
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: want to raise this question. If you're an attorney, do

557
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: you have to believe your client or can you know

558
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: that your client did something bad and still it up

559
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Speaker 1: for them.

560
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's attorney client privileges, right, So.

561
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Speaker 1: Like, let's say I murdered somebody and I hired you

562
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Speaker 1: as my attorney. When I hired you, I said I

563
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: didn't do it, but then I hired you and I

564
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: was like, just so you know I did it. Can

565
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: you still defend me? Or is that against the law

566
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: because you know I did it and you have an admission.

567
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

568
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's crazy, right because I guess that you need

569
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Speaker 3: to get a lawyer on the line.

570
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Speaker 1: Seriously, if you're a lawyer, let us know. I guess

571
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: I could google this, But that is the same kind

572
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Speaker 1: of this is he didn't well, I guess he may

573
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Speaker 1: have murdered people. But the same thing, if you have

574
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: all this evidence that points that your client was guilty,

575
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Speaker 1: how do you you still have to defend them?

576
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 3: So everybody has the right to an attorney. I see

577
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: that on TV when people are getting arrested.

578
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: Oh, like you have a right to the attorney in

579
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: the court of law.

580
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: Thank you for that.

581
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: And so that's why you can get a court appointed

582
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: attorney to represent you. And so someone may have to

583
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: represent the guilty person, like, there's always going to be

584
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Speaker 3: a person up there that has.

585
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: To do their job.

586
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: However, I'm thinking, if I'm an attorney and I start

587
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: representing someone and they tell me they're innocent and I

588
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: truly believe them, and then along the way I find

589
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: out they're guilty, I think I have to fire them

590
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: as a client.

591
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: Right, that's my point. But like you, I guess that's integrity.

592
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 3: Okay, I have updates from Shannon on this. Yes, an

593
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: attorney can and must defend a guilty person because their

594
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 3: ethical duty is to ensure that the state proves its

595
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: case beyond a reasonable doubts.

596
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: Oh so there, Okay, uphold.

597
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: The client's constitutional rights and ensure a fair trial. Regardless

598
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: of the lawyer's personal belief in the client's guilts. The

599
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: lawyer's role isn't to judge factual guilt, but to challenge

600
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: the prosecution's evidence, check police procedures, and secure the best

601
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: legal outcome, whether that's dismissal, reduce charges.

602
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: Or a fair sentence. Okay, this is why I was

603
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: not going to be a lawyer. Just now we know.

604
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 2: I mean, I probably wouldn't have passed the bar.

605
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: But this is also that makes it a little bit

606
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: different that like, if I am Sean's attorney, I'm not

607
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: trying to prove his innocence. I'm just trying to make

608
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: sure that the state is doing their fair job of

609
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: proving that this happened. I still wouldn't do it, just

610
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: so everybody now.

611
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: However, the vibe I got from his attorneys that were

612
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: backing him is they were doing whatever they could do

613
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: to get him the lightest sentence possible, and they were

614
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: proud of their work. Like they didn't seem like like, oh,

615
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: we don't want to be here. No, he retained them,

616
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: you know, it's not like he didn't get a court

617
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Speaker 3: appointed at all the time.

618
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Speaker 4: They got job security after that.

619
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Speaker 1: Don't think with him for life for any Yes, because

620
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Speaker 1: I for sure I didn't pay a lot of attention

621
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Speaker 1: to this because I was like, for sure, he's going

622
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: to jail forever. Surely he is, and then he didn't.

623
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: So I feel like if I'm in a pickle and

624
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: I have the money and I did something similar. I'm

625
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: calling those eight attorneys because if they can do it

626
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: for him, they could do it for me, you know.

627
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. And to clarify his children, he has seven, four

628
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: different just I'm giving you the exact I wonder how

629
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: the children are seven children, four different mothers. One of

630
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: the babies I know was born in like twenty twenty two,

631
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: so like recent ish. I didn't plan on talking about

632
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: this this long, So sorry if nobody cares about it,

633
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: but I think it's interesting, interesting, and you should watch

634
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: the documentary if you haven't yet. I mean talk about conversation.

635
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: Starters at a dinner holiday party, like if you're at

636
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: Christmas party or New Year's parties, like watch this and

637
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: then like pull the room.

638
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: You're literally at Christmas dinner and one of your uncles

639
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: like starts bringing up politics, and you're like, well, actually

640
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: have something better to talk about it. Let's do you

641
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: think that Sean Comb's got a fair sentence? Also maybe

642
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: testing to talk about a dinner because what if somebody says, yes, okay, yeah,

643
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: check his like well have you watched the Reckoning?

644
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: Like check his history?

645
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: Like anybody that is thinking that that, I don't know,

646
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: Like we need to had you husband's had your kids

647
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: from that person.

648
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: Well, okay, last thing that I'll drop it. Okay, I

649
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: promise he got fifty months?

650
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 5: What is that?

651
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: Four years? There's twelve in one year? Twelve time?

652
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: Or who's twenty four, thirty six, forty eight? Like four

653
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: years and some change? So by change, I mean two months.

654
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Speaker 1: He's already been in jail for a while. Prison, he's

655
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: getting out soon? What's his soon?

656
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: He's not getting out soon?

657
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: Well, four years is not that long.

658
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: I hope that somebody doesn't real bad to him in jail.

659
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: Not like you better be careful what you said.

660
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: He's not going to hear me say that we are

661
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Speaker 1: going viral on TikTok and Instagram reels. Okay, well I

662
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: would be careful.

663
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Speaker 3: Don't put this part up there, okay. And I don't

664
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Speaker 3: think any of our listeners are gonna sell me out.

665
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: But you know, like I wonder if what he's what

666
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: his life is like in prison, if he's getting great treatment,

667
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: or if he's holding someone's pocket.

668
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, holding somebody's pocket?

669
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, do I have to look that up?

670
00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: Sure?

671
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: I think it's a way of like you know, you're

672
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: somebody's boy. Oh so if he's the boy, yeah, he

673
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: holds the pocket, he's not in charge.

674
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, got it right?

675
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Like cool? You know lingo? I think you remember that?

676
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: No? I remember that song from prison Break?

677
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't watch that.

678
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: You don't watch prison Break with Wentworth Miller where he

679
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: tattooed his escape plan on his body?

680
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: No, that's crazy. But I did watch Orange is the

681
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: New Black?

682
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: Oh?

683
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Very different? Yeah, very okay.

684
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 4: So do we think he's going to go into hiding?

685
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: Is my question?

686
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: He has he cannot live in the United States. There's

687
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: no life for him here.

688
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: Who knows? Who knows? I don't know what he thinks.

689
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: He thinks.

690
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: He's like he compares himself to the Son of God.

691
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: I believe in the documentary and I'm paraphrasing, he said

692
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: something along those lines of like what else do we

693
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: can compare me to?

694
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: Like stop? No, he sounds like a version of Kanye West.

695
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: What record label was Kanye West on? He wasn't in

696
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: any of this.

697
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: I think he was a did he supporter that tracks?

698
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

699
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: So in prison slang, holding someone's pocket means controlling, influencing,

700
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: or protecting a weaker inmates. Oh, I was thinking it

701
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: something dirt, like a little bee or a punk. Well,

702
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: I think dirty things happen to the little bee.

703
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: Oh.

704
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: He provides favors or services in exchange for safety, got it?

705
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: And status?

706
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: You know certain acts also potentially being away for guards

707
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: to manage inmates, or a tactic to keep someone indebted

708
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: and under control. But unfortunately he's such a master manipulator.

709
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: Like who knows?

710
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: And do the people in prison have access to understand what.

711
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: This is true?

712
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Yes? They do. Yeah, like people, I'm.

713
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: Just thinking, like they can't watch the documentary so they

714
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: can't like know the truth. But like I think they

715
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: talk to people. I'm going to stop talking now.

716
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: I wish we could know. I wish we could talk.

717
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: Where is he because like we need to know, like,

718
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: do you all have access to Netflix? Has he seen

719
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: the reckoning? Yeah? Is he coming up with a plan

720
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: to retell you in fifty cent.

721
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Speaker 1: Imagine you're in prison and in walks shot combs. Okay,

722
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: So rumor is per Cryocat that put this on ABC.

723
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Speaker 4: Amy's not buying this?

724
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I'm not saying I'm not buying it.

725
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: Because they can only watch ABC in prison. I wonder

726
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: why they can only watch.

727
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: It, But I feel like, who, I don't know, maybe

728
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: they have some deal, but I feel like people.

729
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: Because he has Yeah, I feel like they they acquired the.

730
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: P they have computers, they keysterin phones, they you know

731
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: or you know, they have relationships with guards and they

732
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: get like, I'm sure they can stream. I'm sure they're

733
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: streaming some Christmas movies up in there all day harmony.

734
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Speaker 3: Kanye West was not signed to a major record label

735
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: as Recording our Artist during the period of the Tupac

736
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: Biggie stuff. During that era, Kanye was primarily work as

737
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: an aspiring producer for local artists in Chicago. But I

738
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: do know at one of the award shows, Sean was

739
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 3: receiving a Lifetime Achievement award at some point, and Kanye

740
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: was one of the people that announced him to come

741
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: on stage, giving him promise. But I think he had

742
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: his face covered with like a T shirt, you know,

743
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: speaking yes, because he was all weird, like he's speaking

744
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 3: through like a shirt.

745
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: Like all you could see was like a nose and

746
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: a mouth moving in the world.

747
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, don't even get me started on the Kardashians seven.

748
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: Watching that too, and I've thoughts, but I think we've

749
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: done too much with I have to stop talking.

750
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we can do something helpful for people if

751
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: they are looking for small talk situations at Christmas parties

752
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: or things that are coming up, and this is just

753
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: a technique you can keep in your back pock.

754
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: I've seen multiple people talk about it. This is probably

755
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: because it's that time of year.

756
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: But I googled it and I couldn't find exactly where

757
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: it originated from because so many different people spoke about it.

758
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: But it's called the Forge method Forge forge F O

759
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: rge forge, which Shannon, maybe you can find if you know.

760
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: I want to credit the right people, but I just

761
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: feel like it was like a thing that has been

762
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 3: floating out there. It's an acronym to keep conversations flowing

763
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 3: by focusing on safe universal topics. So if you don't

764
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: want to get into politics or Sean Combs, you can

765
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: start with F, which is the beginning of forge. So

766
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: what you do, Kat is like you're like, Okay, I'm

767
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 3: talking to this new person. I'm horrible at small talk.

768
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 4: What do I do?

769
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?

770
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: Forge F is for family. I'm gonna ask them, So

771
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: do you have family here, how many siblings do you have?

772
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: Like any family specific type questions? Okay, that can be

773
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: your go to. So what's a crazy family tradition that

774
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: you guys have? So that's f Oh what do you

775
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: think O stands for?

776
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: Have you been outside lately? It's a good question.

777
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: Occupation.

778
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: So then you could ask questions like, you know, like obviously,

779
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: what do you do for a living, or what's your

780
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: dream job like or if you could do anything in

781
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 3: the world, or if money didn't matter, what would you do?

782
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: Or yeah, volunteer work, stuff that falls under occupation.

783
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: I know there are what is it? Is it recreation?

784
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: It is? What do you like to do for fun?

785
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: Yes?

786
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: Okay, you're catching on. Ask things like what do you

787
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: like to do for fun? Got any hobbies that you're

788
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 3: really into? And this part of the conversation is crucial

789
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: because it's all about what makes them tick when they're

790
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: off the clock, because like family stuff might be a

791
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 3: little sensitive at times. Who wants to talk about work?

792
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: Recreation can be a fun one because you're like exploring

793
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: other sides of them.

794
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: Have you gone on any cool vacations this year?

795
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: Like what's the best vacation, what's the Oh that's that's

796
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: not under our, that's under G.

797
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Forge.

798
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: G is geography.

799
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: I'm not gotten there ask things like have you traveled

800
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: anywhere interesting lately? Or is there a place you'd like

801
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: to visit someday?

802
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 5: Okay, so don't ask that unless you're in the G category.

803
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 5: Well this is so I'm just kidding. Well, to be clear,

804
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: just so people know how to use it. It's just

805
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: an acronym to keep in your back pocket. Like, you

806
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 5: don't have to go in any particular order, but it's

807
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 5: just something to pull from when you're sitting there talking

808
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 5: to someone and you're feeling stuck or desperate, or like,

809
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 5: oh how do I get through this?

810
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: Or I'm so awkward? Then just forge it up?

811
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: Forge it up?

812
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: Wait?

813
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: Is there an E on the end of forge?

814
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: There is?

815
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: Can I guess what it is?

816
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: Sure?

817
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: I have two guesses, entertainment or extracurricular activities.

818
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: It's under experience. You can ask things like what's a

819
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: cool experience you've had? Or have you learned anything important

820
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: lately or life changing? There's like any experiences they might

821
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: have done, any experiential therapy?

822
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: Why yes, I have I like that because I yeah,

823
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: I hate small talk. And that gives you like a

824
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: quick reminder of there's easy things you can just ask about. Generally,

825
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: when you ask people questions, they want to give you,

826
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: they want to talk about that.

827
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 4: Kind of stuff. Yeah, fun things.

828
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: It just gives you a guide, yeah, like where to

829
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: go with the small talk because it can be hard when.

830
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: You think about Christmas and gift giving. Is there a

831
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: gift that sticks out that was like a really weird

832
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: gift that you got?

833
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: Ever?

834
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to say because you don't

835
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: want hurt some of these feelings, that's fine.

836
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: But have you ever gotten like a I.

837
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: Mean, it was for my birthday, but it wasn't for Christmas.

838
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: Oh that's okay.

839
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: Oh if it's the category. Yeah, well the time I

840
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: think I told you this before, and I have the

841
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: picture of my atticts off to show you one day.

842
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: But the time that my husband when I was turning thirty,

843
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: so is my ex husband now, But it was my

844
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: thirtieth birthday and he gotthered all my friends at a

845
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: local art gallery. We lived in downtown Southern Pines, North Carolina.

846
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: There's this cute little art gallery and he had champagne

847
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: there and cake and all my friends and then a

848
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: canvas that was stenciled by an artist that worked at

849
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: the gallery, and I was like, Oh, we're going to

850
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: do like a paint by numbers, but not me.

851
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: My friends were going to paint it. My friends were

852
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: going to paint me a painting of me.

853
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: I wish we had that painting down here. I know

854
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: you still have it. It has Andy Warhol vibes, like

855
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: the colors, yeah, like.

856
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: It was supposed to. And then all my friends signed

857
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: the back.

858
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: But I was like Ben and he said, look, look

859
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 3: look this just so you know, this wasn't my idea,

860
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to do this, and I thought we

861
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: would just do a painting of something like scenery.

862
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: A tree, maybe our dog. That would have been cute.

863
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the person that worked at the gallery was like,

864
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, what if we do her? Like I

865
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: would love to have a picture of me. And I

866
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: think this person like literally had a picture of themselves

867
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Speaker 3: hanging in their house, which some people do have portraits

868
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 3: like that.

869
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: That is great.

870
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: This is not me.

871
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: In fact, I mean Shannon should just go maybe Shannon,

872
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 3: do you It's in the attic.

873
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: You'll see it.

874
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: You'll see it.

875
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: Look to the left, like right after out of Stashira's closet,

876
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: look to the left, it's bright colors.

877
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: It's you can miss it.

878
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: You can't miss it.

879
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: It's me.

880
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: Did you act like you were excited?

881
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: I mean, what else was I supposed to act like?

882
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

883
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: I I think I acted just normal. I did not

884
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: express my.

885
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: Friends so cool.

886
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: They probably thought it was weird too, like I would

887
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Speaker 2: be like.

888
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: Oh, we're painting you.

889
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. They were really sweet.

890
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: That was an awkward thing. And then he and then

891
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: he he sort of was sad that I didn't hang

892
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: it up.

893
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: Where was it gonna go?

894
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: I do not know, because it did not.

895
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,959
Speaker 3: Go in our house, But like it also didn't turn

896
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: out exactly like what I think he thought either, like nobody,

897
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 3: I don't even know if.

898
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: We finished it. Okay, don't show hair bread to me.

899
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: I'll show it.

900
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: It's so big.

901
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: My friends signed the bag.

902
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: That is so scary. Why is your hair like leopard?

903
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: Because it was like I told you, like and I

904
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: think that's the vibe. Did the teacher say like, hey,

905
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: you go put this color here? Because I did some

906
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: nice shade.

907
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: It was like sketched with like there was pencil and

908
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 3: then I guess then there was paint laying out and

909
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: everybody got to fill it in. Okay, I don't know

910
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: if there was paint by numbers. I don't remember if

911
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, three, four or five, and

912
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: then the paint was labeled and then everybody did it.

913
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is not what I thought you

914
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: were going to say when I asked this question. And

915
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: also I'm just imagining. I think you should prank somebody

916
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: that has not been to your house yet and hang

917
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: it up because if I would have come to your

918
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: house for the first time and I saw that, I'd

919
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: be like I would first of all, I would probably

920
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: compliment it because that would feel so awkward, like I

921
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: love that painting that you commission it, Like I need

922
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: somebody to say, technically.

923
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: It was commissioned.

924
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he paid her to host this party

925
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: for us, and then my friends paint by numbered it.

926
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: So the whole experience was my gift, which the experience

927
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: was fun in itself, but this is what I walked

928
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: away with.

929
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: And you'll never forget.

930
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: Okay, we have to invite something, well, you have to

931
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: invite somebody over or just like put it up.

932
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: Does Alex know about this?

933
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so, just hanging up one day and

934
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: Alex comes over and be like, oh gosh, I found

935
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: this painting.

936
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 4: I think it looks so cute right here, And see

937
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 4: what he says. That's how you know if he's gonna

938
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: be honest with.

939
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: You or not, he's gonna know I'm not serious this.

940
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: There's nothing about this my like aesthetic anywhere. I can't

941
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: think of anywhere in my house that that would go.

942
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: Maybe the game room, but you maybe, yeah, that's where

943
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: it's been. For gosh, that was fourteen years ago. And

944
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: and and honestly, I felt so bad because Ben was like,

945
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: you don't like the picture because.

946
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: No, first of all, i'd.

947
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: He took it personally, I think, you know, I think

948
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: he was in it, like emotionally he was in it

949
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 3: because he had planned this whole thing. And then it

950
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: sort of went because it was a really sweet, very

951
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: sweet idea. I just wish we would have done my dog,

952
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: because like, how cute If we did Joe see my

953
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: cute little Rottweiler and walked away with like, yeah, it

954
00:43:59,239 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 3: be so something.

955
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: It's still a brilliant idea.

956
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: In fact, if anybody wants to take that idea and

957
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: take it as your own for someone that you love,

958
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: Like I think it's great, just don't do the person

959
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 3: because then that makes it awkward because people are there

960
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 3: celebrating you, painting you, and then this is what we

961
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 3: end up with, Like the whole.

962
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: Thing is just weird.

963
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: But I think Ben was so emotionally involved in like

964
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: the whole set, like he almost took that I didn't

965
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 3: like the painting.

966
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: Is that I didn't like the whole event? Yeah, and

967
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: this caused issues. Well, okay, I was gonna say the

968
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: fact that it was in the attic for years, like.

969
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: Where was it in your last house?

970
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: Attic looked in the attic, But I do time moved

971
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: with it. I've hold on to it because I mean,

972
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: with a.

973
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Memory, you can't get rid of that ever, Because what

974
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: if somebody asked you this question again? Right?

975
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, oh man, so have you gotten a

976
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: gift that you hate?

977
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: It's not that I hated it. I got a weird gift.

978
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: It is gonna be nothing compared to this story. So

979
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: just bear in mind. I wasn't expecting this. I just

980
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: was thinking about it with all of the you know,

981
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: Diddy stuff. One year for Christmas, I asked my parents

982
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: for the R.

983
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 4: Kelly CD.

984
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: Because I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch.

985
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 4: I love that song.

986
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: It was my childhood song that I thought I actually

987
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: could sing well. Favorite song, So I asked for the R.

988
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: Kelly CD and my parents bought it for me. I

989
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: don't know why, because one of the songs I was

990
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: probably eleven mind you, I don't even think I believe

991
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: I can if I was on the CD.

992
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: But what was on the CD was the greatest sex.

993
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: And like they didn't look at the titles of the songs.

994
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: Sure, but like maybe I think I would have yeah,

995
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: Like they didn't. They didn't flip the CD over. So

996
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: it just was like a weird gift to get from

997
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: my parents because also they weren't strict, but they weren't

998
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: like they weren't like buying me rap CDs.

999
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: So it's just a weird gift to get.

1000
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: Anytime I think of that song, I think of my

1001
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: ninth grade typing class because I had to take did

1002
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 3: you have to take a typing class in high school

1003
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: where you just sit there and you'd go, hey, hey

1004
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: A B.

1005
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: I mean you just sit there and learn how to take.

1006
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 4: You have the thing over the thing so you couldn't

1007
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 4: see the keys.

1008
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1009
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: I just remember sitting in typing class and my friends

1010
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: and I had that song was prob of the time,

1011
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: and we would sing.

1012
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: To leave I can type, press the keys and type

1013
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: away and we would type to that.

1014
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: What's sad is we have to that song could no

1015
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: longer be No, he's.

1016
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: Bad bad I'm gonna talk about a bad boy.

1017
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I wonder what's what record company he was on?

1018
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: Good question.

1019
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: I guess we'll ever know.

1020
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: We could google it.

1021
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: We can google it, Okay, Well, so there you have it.

1022
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: I think the big takeaways from today are forge.

1023
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you can take away, small talk.

1024
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 3: Keep forge, your rapocket pocket, family, occupation, recreation, recreation, geography, experience.

1025
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah we're not. Oh, I didn't know if you're doing

1026
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 4: a wrap.

1027
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: No, but tupac dear mama is one of my specialties.

1028
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 4: Would you like to edit?

1029
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 3: When I was young, me and my mama had beef

1030
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: seventeen years old, kicked down on the streets back.

1031
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: In the time. I never thought of tuday. Ain't a

1032
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: woman alive that could take Mama's place. You sett in

1033
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: it from school, scared to go home. I was a

1034
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: fool with the big boys, breaking.

1035
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: All the rules.

1036
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: See, and he was so nice.

1037
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's not no, he's saying, dear mama,

1038
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: like and even though you're a crack queen Mama.

1039
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.

1040
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: He said that crackphene or something.

1041
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: You always was a black queen mama.

1042
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: What's kind of sweet?

1043
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: Now he's talking about how like in wod Thinking elementary. Hey,

1044
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 3: I see the penitentiary one day running from the police.

1045
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, catch a whooping or mama, catchy, put

1046
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: a whooping to my backside.

1047
00:47:59,600 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 4: Okay.

1048
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of compared to some things you hear. Now,

1049
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: that's a little bit cleaner, wouldn't you say? It's a

1050
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: left note to his mom?

1051
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 5: Right?

1052
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they laid it, don't you know? I love you

1053
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: sweet laid?

1054
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Is that part of the same song? Uh huh Oh,

1055
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: that sounds a little nicer than some of the things

1056
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: I hear now. I'm not saying it's oh yeah, I see.

1057
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean Tupac was lyrically pretty brilliant if you ask me.

1058
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: And I think Tupac and Biggie.

1059
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 3: Both people argue Biggie more so their music can still

1060
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 3: survive today, Like it doesn't sound like if you if

1061
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: if Biggie's song music come out today, it was just

1062
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: the sound of it.

1063
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: It still sound like it fits.

1064
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: Right in that song that you just sang, that's your

1065
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: Mama is different.

1066
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: And I said Biggie specifically, and that was Tupac.

1067
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, Biggie, I think I was in elementary

1068
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: school or something.

1069
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just hitting a Tasby.

1070
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, that that would be cool. I

1071
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: ask to that.

1072
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, with a little different behind the scenes music.

1073
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: White Girls Dissect Pip Hof.

1074
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I nobody listened to any of that.

1075
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, you can take away the Forge and you

1076
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: know that you need to watch the documentary. Yeah, and

1077
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: next week, since we didn't get to it, we have

1078
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: got to talk about what items in your house you

1079
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 3: need to fire because I think this is such a

1080
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: great way. This is coming from a Harvard professor, And

1081
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: we'll talk about it next Tuesday, like get rid of

1082
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: before the new year. Yeah, it's like every time you

1083
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: buy an item, think of it this way. When you

1084
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: buy an item, you're hiring it. To do a job,

1085
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: and then what happens at the end of the year

1086
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: or beginning of the year, like you take you do

1087
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: a review, like at work you do an end of

1088
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: year review or a start of the year review, like

1089
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: reflecting on the work that this person or thing has done.

1090
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 3: And so if you look at items that way, because

1091
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: sometimes we hold on to so much stuff. So we're

1092
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: going to dive into that and it's gonna help us

1093
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: start twenty twenty.

1094
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: Six strong and fresh.

1095
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, by firing a bunch of stuff at our house.

1096
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: Ready, Yeah, Okay, don't fire that picture.

1097
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: Well it's going to be it's not fired, but it's

1098
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 3: not working. It's it's retired, yes, yes, retired. So if

1099
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: you fire it, it's gone. If you retire it, it

1100
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: stays in the attic, yeah, or the basement or whatever.

1101
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1102
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: So we'll come up with the whole thing and that

1103
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: maybe next Tuesday we can focus on like that'll be

1104
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: our theme.

1105
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: H Yeah, I like that.

1106
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: Yay. All right, So most importantly, half the day you

1107
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 2: need to have bye bye