1 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Good mornings, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, August twenty seventh. I'm 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: Jay Skeets and joining us here. As always, we got Task. 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Mellis, Good morning, everybody, morning. 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Task, We got the Bearded one, Tray Herby. 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 4: Hey out Hey, hey oh. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: We have the International Man of Mystery taking it to 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: the max. Got new headphones today, Lee Ellis, Friends, last Place, 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Double ears There Leo making the magic happen. 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: JD. Hello, there he is, and here we are. 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you all joining us today, whether you're 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: catching this live on YouTube or listening later to the podcast. 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. This one's obviously going to be 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: a little bit different. The NBA players made a very 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: loud statement On Wednesday. Three NBA playoff games were postponed 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: after players staged a walkout in protest over the shooting 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: of Jacob Blake by police officers in Wisconsin, and just 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: to try and put the focus back on social justice, 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: specifically police and systemic racism. The Milwaukee Bucks players led 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: the way they got safe to say, and later, standing 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: together outside their locker room, they read this statement, which 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: had specific demands, and I just wanted to really point 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: those out. They said, quote, we are calling for justice 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: for Jacob Blake and demand the officers be held accountable 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: for this to occur. It is imperative for the Wisconsin 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: State Legislature to reconvene after months of inaction and take 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: up meaningful measures to address issues of police accountability, brutality, 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: and criminal justice reform. We encourage all citizens to educate themselves, 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: take peaceful and responsible action, and remember to vote on 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: November three. It's worth noting that the Bucks players had 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: the full backing of team ownership, the players Association, the 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: NBA Coaches Association, and the referees, and not long after 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: other sports leagues followed suit WNBA, MLB, MLS players They 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: elected to not play in last night's games and match, 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: which is then later on Wednesday. Wednesday night, NBA players 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: and coaches, still inside the bubble, they held a meeting 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: to discuss what will come next and whether the season 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: will even resume. The meeting lasted about three hours. By 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: all reports, it ended ugly. According to Sham's Lebron said 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: he wanted more action from owners on racial justice matters 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: and was among those who walked out, and it sounds 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: as though the Lakers and Clippers, you know, they were 43 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: ready to maybe end this and pack their bags and 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: go home. Here's where we're at right now, the NBA's 45 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: board of governors and the players still inside the NBA's bubble. 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: They're each going to have their own meetings today at 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: eleven am Eastern, so about forty five minutes from now 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: when we're recording this, and they both are going to 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: try and figure out. 50 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: How to proceed. 51 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Obviously a pretty historic day in the NBA and really 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: across all sports. So yeah, sorry, we're not breaking down 53 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: the Celtics Raptors second round series here today. There's things 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more important than that. But a little 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: bit up to you guys tasks. You know, what was 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: your reaction to yesterday and where we go from. 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 5: Here out is very patriotic. I am just very very 58 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 5: proud of the Milwaukee Bucks stepping up and doing this 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 5: right off the bat when sort of no one really 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 5: expected that. People were talking about Thursday and the Celtics 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 5: and the Raptors doing that before their second round game, 62 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 5: and yesterday I questioned whether or not the Celtics and 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 5: the Raps walking away from a game would really resonate, 64 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 5: would really change anything in this world. But you can 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 5: see the momentum that happen. I thought it would sort 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: of be an isolated game, but WNBA shuts down. MLB 67 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 5: teams don't play. MLS teams don't play. Naomi Osaka of 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 5: tennis pulls out of her game. The NBA referees are 69 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 5: protesting this morning. They're walking around Disney, which is a 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 5: kind of a funny site. Let's be honest. They're walking 71 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 5: around the Disney resort with their coffees in hand. But 72 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 5: they are protesting. Everybody from all corners of the country, 73 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: from my perspective, should be protesting, and that's what makes 74 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 5: it strong and that's what can change. Has anything changed 75 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: as of yet, absolutely not. People are just gaining more 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 5: and more awareness. And as you said about the legislature 77 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 5: in Wisconsin, there has been a package that was introduced 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: a couple of months ago, which often happens in legislature, 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 5: it just sits there and no one approves it. But 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 5: that included some police reform, according to Ramona Shelbourne and 81 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 5: Wisconsin governor saying, hey, let's get back there to vote 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 5: on it because it's it's a scary time, and I 83 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 5: don't want to instill fear in people because that's what's 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 5: happening in this country. But this is about Jacob Blake. 85 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 5: In this instance, a man in Wisconsin who is shot 86 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 5: in the back, and somebody comes from another state. A 87 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: seventeen year old comes in and kills two protesters and 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 5: injures another, and that person is celebrated. So some people 89 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 5: are celebrating a murderer. Some people look at Jacob Blake 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: as somebody who should not be celebrated and not be 91 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 5: allowed or not be I guess back. So we're such 92 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 5: a divided country right now, and I think at this point, 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 5: the players are trying to speak for so many out there, 94 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 5: and it needed to be done. But it can't stop 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 5: with just these players. And I'm really looking forward to 96 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 5: the Board of Governors meeting that's going to be happening 97 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 5: in forty five minutes and whether or not there will 98 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 5: be tangible actions made about police brutality in this country. 99 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to. All of the. 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 5: Superfluous stuff, all the stuff of the talk around it, 101 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 5: it all comes back to police being able to get 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: away with whatever they want. And it's a country as 103 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 5: I brought up about the Jacob Blake and people celebrating 104 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 5: that young seventeen year old who came in with an 105 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 5: AR fifteen and shot a couple of protesters. Now there's 106 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 5: a video out there about federal authorities going out too 107 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 5: the streets of Kenosha, Washington or Kenosha, Wisconsin, like they 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 5: did in Portland, Oregon, where they're just grabbing people off 109 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 5: the streets because they're protests. I just I'm tying those together, 110 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 5: because is that a country you want to live in? 111 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: It's it's a it's just a point where we're sort 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 5: of we're slipping, and we're sliding here, and I'm I'm 113 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 5: proud of the players, and I hope this continues, not 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 5: just talks, but some action has to be done. 115 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: And so we're here at late August. We got down here. 116 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 5: I'm saying, we as a league here a couple months ago, 117 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: and nothing has changed as far as actual policy, and 118 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: there has been, you know, some small things, but things 119 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 5: have to change, and hopefully this is this is the 120 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 5: start again of things changing, right. 121 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, they've had the statements. It's on the floor, 122 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: there's the jerseys, there's the tweets, there's the videos, But 123 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: at some point did it stop getting people's attention and 124 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: that maybe this will get everyone's attention. 125 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: Maybe it won't. But Trey, why wouldn't you try? 126 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: Right? 127 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: I think that's what That's what my sort of takeaway. 128 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you try? 129 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Because like many of us, I think these players are 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what is the most effective way 131 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: to affect actual change here. And so if that worked 132 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: for a second and now it no longer does, well, 133 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: then what's the next step? And then what's the next step? 134 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: And what's the next step? But what was your takeaway 135 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: from yesterday? 136 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, George Hill had said previously that there's nothing we 137 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 6: can do in the bubble. We shouldn't have even come 138 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 6: down here, but that was apparently raw emotion because they 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 6: did a little bit more thinking, a little bit more talking. 140 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 6: Then George Hill led the charge for the Bucks to 141 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 6: strike for Game five against the Magic. You know, the 142 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 6: league is getting a little bit of credit for this, 143 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 6: the NBA for hopping in and saying that they were 144 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 6: going to be postponing the games. 145 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: But this is one hundred percent. 146 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 6: A player led action here, and it's the loudest action 147 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 6: they could possibly make there, Like you're saying, they knew 148 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 6: that there wasn't a lot that they would be able 149 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 6: to physically do. From the bubble and wearing T shirts, 150 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 6: putting names on the back of jerseys, putting Black Lives 151 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 6: Matter on the court, it can only take you so far. 152 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 6: It was a big story for maybe the first week 153 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 6: of the bubble, and then people have moved on. If 154 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 6: you want to be loud, if you want to unify, 155 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 6: and you use your platform, this is a great way 156 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 6: to do it. 157 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: You know, the NBA players. 158 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 6: Right now are probably the most visible, most skilled black 159 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 6: men in the world, considering there's not a lot of 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 6: entertainment going on. People are out on tours or on 161 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 6: red carpets. So NBA players have an incredibly loud voice 162 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 6: and they're once again figuring out how to use it. 163 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 6: And you know, people are saying, what's the plan, what's 164 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 6: the plan? What's the plan. The first part of the 165 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 6: plan was raising awareness with shirts and all of the messaging, 166 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 6: and that didn't go far enough. So the second part 167 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 6: of the plan is striking to show people that we're serious, 168 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 6: that there are things more important about basketball that need 169 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 6: to change. And now they're going to figure out the 170 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 6: rest of the plan. The first part of it apparently 171 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 6: is going to be trying to get the legislator back 172 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 6: to vote on these reform bills. For the record, I 173 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 6: don't think police reform actually works. These are fine things 174 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 6: to add, but there are more drastic steps that need 175 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 6: to be taken to dismantle the police forces in our 176 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 6: country because they've been trying to form police since police started. 177 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 6: So I don't know how it's gonna work now, but 178 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 6: at least they're trying something, and at least people are 179 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 6: talking again. It went from one game to suddenly three 180 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 6: games to who knows what's gonna happen today. All of 181 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 6: these other sports are following the lead, just as they 182 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 6: have done in the past. 183 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, we're waiting on these two meetings, and we 184 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: might jump back on later today tonight when we have 185 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: a clearer picture of what happens in these meetings. If 186 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: anything does the Board of Governors and then the players again, 187 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: I would guess we're not seeing any more basketball today. Again, Ley, 188 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: I think I don't think I'm that's a that's a stretch. 189 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm reporting it by any means, But I don't think 190 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna see in the teams that were scheduled to 191 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: play today be playing at all as well. 192 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 7: No, I think that's true. I think probably through the 193 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 7: weekend as well, but who knows. We'll wait and find out. 194 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 7: But what I really respect and admire about Lebron James 195 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 7: and Giannis Sante Takoupo and the Bucks and all the 196 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 7: teams down there is they have something to play for 197 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 7: right now. There's a championship back on the line, and 198 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 7: Lebron James, you know, we talk a lot about legacy 199 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 7: and championships and things like that. That and Yannis was 200 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 7: just awarded Defensive Player of the Year and maybe MVP 201 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 7: as well. They've got a lot here in terms of 202 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 7: their professional career that they could be playing for. But 203 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 7: right now, instead of chasing that dream, they fear there 204 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 7: is something a bigger message to send. And I think 205 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 7: that takes That's why I admire these guys, because they 206 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 7: aren't just talking about it. They're trying to be about it. 207 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 7: They're trying to actually take some action that could potentially 208 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 7: change things around. And I think that's it because the 209 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 7: messaging is right. When the first messaging came out, it's like, oh, 210 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 7: look at the court. Black lives matter now it just 211 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 7: kind of blends into the games that we watch. So 212 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 7: the next step is for these players to actually say, 213 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 7: you know what, I'm going to put the basketball down 214 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 7: here and try to do something that helps a lot 215 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 7: more people who are maligned and suffer at the hands 216 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 7: of police brutality that just goes unnoticed because these things 217 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 7: that we've seen, going back to George Floyd, Floyd and others, 218 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 7: of course, if there wasn't video of those things, they 219 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 7: would just be written off as a deaths in custody, 220 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 7: and that's it. No one really knows too much about 221 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 7: it. It's by seeing these videos and seeing the footage of 222 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 7: just how awful and just how vile the police are 223 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 7: treating largely black men and women, it brings a lot 224 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 7: more realism to it. And I think that's excuse me, 225 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 7: That's what's significant here, is that these incidents have been 226 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 7: going on forever, just so many of them don't get 227 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 7: seen and don't get video footage, so police get away 228 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 7: with it. And so I think when you see incidents 229 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 7: like the one with Jacob Blake, the policeman that shoot 230 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 7: him do so knowing that there's very little repercussions that 231 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 7: happened in the past, so why would they start happening. 232 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 7: And I think a step like this from the NBA 233 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 7: to say, you know, we all love basketball, and for us, 234 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 7: we make our living off basketball, but it's so much 235 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 7: more important that people can go about their lives without 236 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 7: having to worry about being shot for a relatively minor incidence. 237 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 7: And I think, as a white person myself, I believe 238 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 7: that I define white privilege. I've grown up in a 239 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 7: life where I've been able to travel around the world. 240 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 7: I've been able to go and rent apartments, I get 241 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 7: a job without any problems, I can travel late at 242 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 7: night on public transport, and I never ever have to 243 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 7: fear that police might just shoot me for doing mundane activities. 244 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 7: But for a lot of black people, especially in this country, 245 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 7: they live with that fear every day that they could 246 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 7: just get shot and murdered for really no reason. And 247 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 7: Robert Horry, the former Lake a great He had a 248 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 7: really emotional peace last night, and he was talking about 249 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 7: his kids and saying, you know, when the police are 250 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 7: out there, like it was actually really disturbing for me 251 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 7: to watch because he was basically saying, lie down if 252 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 7: you have to let them kick you and beat you. 253 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 7: As long as they don't shoot you, things will be okay. 254 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 7: And that to me, like I just couldn't sort of 255 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 7: hold it in any longer because it's like he's saying 256 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 7: to his kids, basically, it's okay if you get beaten 257 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 7: up by the police, just don't get shot by them. 258 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 7: And that, to me, I mean, is just incredible that 259 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 7: that's the sort of bar that he has to put 260 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 7: to his kids to say, you know, put up with that, 261 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 7: that's okay, rather than you know, I'd rather that and 262 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 7: rather you go to hospital than we have to bury you. 263 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 7: And I think that's just incredible that that's the life 264 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 7: that he has to leave, or that he has to 265 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 7: sort of tell his kids that it's okay with because 266 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 7: that is not acceptable at all. And it's just again, 267 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 7: as a white person, I have never had to suffer 268 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 7: or fear like so many black men and women and 269 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 7: people of color around the world. And to sort of 270 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 7: see things like this happen now where the players are 271 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 7: prepared to actually put their careers and their legacies on 272 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 7: the line, really to me shows just how important it 273 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 7: is that this issue gets dealt with immediately. 274 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, Reportedly, Lebron wants to put pressure on the 275 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: owners to use their wealth and their political influence to 276 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: ensure some changes here in favor of social justice. And 277 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: I think what you see a media is well, what 278 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: are the owners going to do? That's what you see. 279 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: That's the blowback? What does this evening? And then what 280 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: are the owners going to do? That is so weird 281 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: to me because these owners, they twist arms, they make 282 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: deals to get arenas built. These are billionaires, okay, often 283 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: with taxpayer money. By the way, talk is public holding money. 284 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: How Why is it that far fetched to believe they 285 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: can't use influence on other things on social issue issues 286 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: such as police reform, like specific specific things or you 287 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: know whatever, tangible things. That's totally reasonable to me, it 288 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: really is. So I hope you know again, this league 289 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: has been pretty uh, pretty impressive in terms of the 290 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: players association in the league itself in solidarity for a 291 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: good chunk of this. I'll say that needs to continue. 292 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: But they can't can't just be a Twitter statement anymore. 293 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's great, awesome. You stand with them, you're 294 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: you're with them, They're in the corner. 295 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: Now what now? 296 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: Now? Use that wealth use that really that influence, that 297 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: power that you have to do to do something, and 298 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a I mean, I'm praying that's what 299 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: comes out of the both of these meet of course today, 300 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: and there is something moving forward again we will see. 301 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 6: I saw the stat that there are twenty two billionaires 302 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 6: who own at least twenty percent of an NBA team. 303 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 6: Money talks. There is a family that owns an NBA 304 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 6: team that is part of the presidential cabinet. There are 305 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 6: team owners who are chummy with Jared Kushner. Adam Silver 306 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 6: is chummy with Jared Kushner. There are people who can 307 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 6: put pressure on the people in power to actually make changes, 308 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 6: and they need to do it. 309 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: I agree with that. 310 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 5: Sorry, I would think this Board of Governor's meeting, it 311 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 5: sure feels like is somewhat unprecedented, stemming from something that 312 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: the players are are asking for. This walkout was unprecedented, 313 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: and then and now because of as a result of it, 314 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: these Board of Governors are meeting. So yeah, ideally something 315 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 5: unprecedented comes out of that in that they do pressure 316 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: their local governments, their state governments, and we see at 317 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 5: least people come to the table to discuss these issues. 318 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: But how long do the players have to sit out 319 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 5: for that are there? 320 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: Is? 321 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 5: There just going to be more legislature, more bills that 322 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 5: are presented as potential, whether it be police reform or 323 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 5: whatever it is. Those things won't get signed for months. 324 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 5: I just wonder how long this goes. But at the 325 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: same time, the last thing where the Board of Governors 326 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 5: met in sort of an emergency mode, I suppose was 327 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 5: the Donald Sterling incident. Unless I'm missing something in between, 328 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 5: this feels it definitely feels like the players are doing 329 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 5: something that hasn't resulted in anything concrete, no doubt, but 330 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 5: the meeting feels I mean, you guys tell me it 331 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 5: does feel like it is something that's happening for the 332 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 5: first time. 333 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 334 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Again, I think we just have to wait and see 335 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: what comes out of this meeting. I mean, this is 336 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: this is wild. I tweeted this a month ago, a 337 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: month and a day ago, and I wrote, I just said, 338 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: serious question. I was linking to an athletic article about 339 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: Lebron being upset of the cops not being arrested in 340 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: the killing and Breonna Taylor. But I said, quote, what 341 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: would happen if Lebron flat out refused to play hoops 342 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: until they arrested the cops who killed Breonna Taylor. I 343 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: was just asking, I was curious, what would the Lakers do, 344 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: how many players would join in the protests, what would 345 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: Adam Silver say? And you know, again, now flash forward 346 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: a month from that, this is sort of where we're 347 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: at here. This is what it feels like, especially after 348 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: what we got the news from last night, with Lebron 349 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: really being very adamant that things need to happen. The 350 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: owners in Silver need to do something here, and we 351 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: might find out we might actually get the answers to 352 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: some of those crazy questions, which I thought were sort 353 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: of wild at the time, but I was just throwing 354 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: it out there because like, wow, these I mean, Lebron, 355 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: of all people in the NBA, has the most power. 356 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 357 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 6: Fred van Vliet had said right that at some point 358 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 6: we have to put our nuts on the line. 359 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 4: Yeah. 360 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 6: What Lebron and the Lakers and the Clippers did allegedly 361 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 6: is to me them literally putting their nuts on the line, 362 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 6: saying we're ready for this to go as long as 363 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 6: it needs to go until there are changes. I don't 364 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 6: think it's a shock that it came right before the 365 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 6: Board of Governors are going to be having there meeting. 366 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 6: It seems like a negotiation tactic, saying, yeah, we're in 367 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 6: for the long haul. We understand that this is not 368 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 6: going to change in the course of twelve hours, but 369 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 6: we want to see some sort of action in the 370 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 6: course of twelve hours or you guys are going to 371 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 6: be taking a major hit in your pocket box and 372 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 6: we know that that's mainly what you care about. 373 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, that I think is what is significant here that 374 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 7: Lebron is going to basically call their bluff today and 375 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 7: he's saying, if you think this is I'm just here 376 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 7: saying this and I'm going to just come back on 377 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 7: the court without any real change, that's not going to happen. 378 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 7: So he's saying to the owners, these billionaires who have 379 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 7: all this money and this power, that you say their 380 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 7: skeets do something with it, or else I'll have to 381 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 7: do what I can. And Lebron understands he has power, 382 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 7: he has leverage because he is still the face of 383 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 7: the NBA. And him walking out last night, according to 384 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 7: the reports there, I think is him saying, if you 385 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 7: guys think that I'm just doing this for show, then 386 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 7: you'll find out in the next couple of days, because again, 387 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 7: he's got so much at stake in the basketball world 388 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 7: right now, you know, to try to win that championship 389 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 7: that we always thought, and he's prepared to sacrifice that. 390 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 7: I think that is very, very significant. He plays for 391 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 7: the Lakers, too. This is not when he's on a 392 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 7: smaller team like the Cavs. This is a big team. 393 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 7: He's putting it out there to say, I'm prepared to 394 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 7: give up on this season if that's what it takes. 395 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 7: And I think that's very, very powerful. 396 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: While we applaud Lebron and the Bucks and all the players, 397 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: let's not forget Kyrie Irving was saying this months ago 398 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: really to some extent here, and that is I'm not 399 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: knocking Lebron. I mean, Lebron has has changed his tune 400 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, but that's fine, that's human. You can 401 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: do that. He thought he was saying, we can do both. 402 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: We can play basketball and we can bring awareness to 403 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: this and try and make change. And now it feels 404 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: like he's saying, well, that's not working. Maybe I was wrong, 405 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: and maybe we have to go to the next level here. 406 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Andrea Goodala too. 407 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: Earlier on Wednesday, he said, quote, when you talk about 408 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: boycotting a game, everyone's intenna goes up. And it's sad 409 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: that you have to make threats like that. I wouldn't 410 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: say threats, but you have to be willing to sacrifice 411 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: corporate money for people to realize there's a big note there. 412 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: Andrigud knows what's up. He knows the game here, and 413 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: that's what this is, what it is. Let's uh, they 414 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: don't care about black people's lives being taken from them, 415 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: and they'll care about their money. 416 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: They might, or we will find out. 417 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: If they do, and they probably will, so I hope 418 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: they will if it takes not Jesus. It's embarrassing, but 419 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: still anything to make some change here. 420 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 5: It's unfortunate that this is seems seems to be on 421 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 5: the players shoulders, and only sport athletes shoulders here in 422 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: the US AT and yeah. 423 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: That's very fair and it's not. 424 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: But they step up every single time. 425 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 6: That's the amazing thing is that the players step up 426 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 6: every single time, and then the NBA hops in to 427 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 6: kind of co opt the movement so that they get 428 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 6: h street cred basically for being the woke league and 429 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 6: in honesty it's one hundred percent the players that are 430 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 6: driving this conversation at any point in the movement, right 431 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 6: because the league was ready to play that playoff game yesterday. 432 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 6: They were ready to go five minutes before the tip 433 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 6: and the Bucks said we're not doing it. 434 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: So major shout out to the Bucks. 435 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: That's amazing to put your to put your money where 436 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 6: your mouth ist and to show that you're one hundred 437 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 6: percent about it. 438 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 439 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 5: I never ever accept anyone talking about the NBA, you know, 440 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 5: without including the players in the sentence. The players are 441 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 5: the league. The league is the players. The players make 442 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 5: this league happen. 443 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: They are what we watch, They are our entertainment. 444 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 5: And yes, the bri the split between the basketball related 445 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 5: income is approximately fifty to fifty. 446 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: That's the way the money works. 447 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 5: But the players make everything go and they made the 448 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 5: Bilwaukee Bucks made that meeting happen with the Attorney General 449 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: of Wisconsin when they were in that locker room after saying, hey, 450 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 5: we're not playing this game, they got the attorney general, 451 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 5: the top cop of their state on the horn along 452 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 5: with the lieutenant governor of their state to try and 453 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 5: enforce change and try and make change happen in their state. 454 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: That's who did it. 455 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 5: And the commissioner is always going to work for the owners, 456 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 5: and the owners are always going to try to make money. 457 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 5: It's the play and the people of this country as 458 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 5: an extension that are going to make the change. So 459 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: they're trying to pull and the players have to pull 460 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 5: every person from every corner of this country to try 461 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 5: and make it happen. And it was it was very 462 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 5: very promising, very pleasing for me to see, you know, 463 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 5: a bunch of other athletes as we said, you know WNBA, MLB, 464 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: MLS joining forces and now the referees and apparently the 465 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 5: coaches are are on a march here if we're following 466 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 5: the YouTube chats correctly, if those are are right. But 467 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 5: as Chris Webber so eloquently put yesterday on TNT, do 468 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 5: not stop. Nobody stopped. It may not be able. You 469 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 5: may not be able to see something tangible here at 470 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 5: the end of the tunnel. You may not be able 471 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 5: to see it. Of course, that's that's the nature of 472 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 5: civil rights movements. 473 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: But do not stop. 474 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 5: Everybody cannot stop throughout this country to try and change it. 475 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: And as I outlined, it's it's a slippery slope we're 476 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: on now. It's not just it's not just about one 477 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 5: person being shot in Wisconsin. It's yeah, that man, Jacob, 478 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 5: Jacob Blake was shot there. But the names you know, 479 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 5: Flando and Sandra and Trayvon, they don't stop. It does 480 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 5: not stop, and either can people in this country. They 481 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 5: they cannot stop as well. So, yeah, the athletes are 482 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 5: putting their necks on the line at this moment in 483 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: this instance, but it's up to the country. It's up 484 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 5: to the country to follow along and and hopefully this 485 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 5: isn't just a story that just fades away with, you know, 486 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 5: a headline and then it goes away. But I'm not 487 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 5: sure what you guys think about them at this point 488 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 5: potentially walking out of the bubble and saying goodbye to 489 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 5: the rest of the season. It seems like they're in 490 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 5: a negotiation phase. But what do you guys think about 491 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 5: them potentially leaving the bubble as a form of protest. 492 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 7: That's yeah, that's a that's a very very interesting question 493 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 7: because I feel that they've made they've they've played a 494 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 7: hand yesterday and they said we are prepared to do this, 495 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 7: So I think they need to give a little bit 496 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 7: of time for things to perhaps change as far as 497 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 7: or arrest some people and show that things are happening. 498 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Well, they need demand, they need to they need to 499 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: make demands and see, unless this, this, and this happen. 500 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 3: Yes we are not playing. 501 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 7: But they also then have to give that a few 502 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 7: days at least to happen. So in them in the 503 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 7: short term, I believe they can still continue to play, 504 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 7: and then if they see those demands being met, then 505 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 7: perhaps they can continue. If they feel that those demands 506 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 7: are being ignored or being blown off or being you know, 507 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 7: not not actually not being taken, then they can say 508 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 7: we warned you, Now we're out and we're done, and 509 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 7: don't don't give you think. 510 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 6: They should go back to playing and then walk off again. 511 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 6: That doesn't make any sense to me. I think it's 512 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 6: going to be a we sit until our demands are met, 513 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 6: or at least until we have some sort of plan 514 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 6: for our demands being met, going back to playing and 515 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 6: then stopping again. 516 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: That doesn't make a whole bunch of sense. 517 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 7: Well, I think it does, because I think they've shown 518 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 7: that they are prepared to walk out, and they stopped 519 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 7: playing yesterday, and so they've said this is basically your 520 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 7: first warning. We want to see these demands get met. 521 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 7: In the meantime, while while there's again a few days, 522 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 7: a week, or whatever it long takes to show some progress, 523 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 7: they can continue to play, showing that we will play 524 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 7: if these demands are being met. If they're not being met, 525 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 7: then they walk out again. I think it's fine to 526 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 7: at least say we're not messing around here, we aren't playing, 527 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 7: So go out there and get things done, and in 528 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 7: the meantime we'll continue to play otherwise, and then in 529 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 7: a week's time or so we'll readdress it. 530 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look again, the reports of the Lakers 531 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: and Clippers were the two teams that I guess, you know, 532 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't an official vote, but they were leaning towards 533 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: we're done and this is over, and let's get out 534 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: of here and actually try and make some real change 535 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: back in our own communities, Whereas it sounds like a 536 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: lot of the other teams that are still down there 537 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: were in favor of continuing I guess to play. I 538 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: assume still with things being met, demands being met. I 539 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: assume that again we don't know, and I think we're 540 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: gonna have some more clarity after these two meetings today. 541 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: But Trey, what okay, So what do you think? 542 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean again, we have no idea, But what do 543 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: you think happens here next after these meetings? Do you 544 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: think are the chances of us continuing the season high? 545 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 5: Low? 546 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: What? 547 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean again, it's a bit of a guess. But 548 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: what's your gut say? 549 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 4: I mean, who knows? 550 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 6: I would imagine we don't have games today, is the 551 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 6: only thing that I could really guess with any sort 552 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 6: of confidence. It doesn't seem like a plan will be 553 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 6: able to put together in the course of you know, 554 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 6: twenty four hours from when the strike started to when 555 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 6: the next set of games are supposed to start. 556 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 557 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 6: I feel like it's probably gonna be similar to when 558 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 6: the restart was first getting going, and you know, it 559 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 6: was kind of like players were making their own decisions 560 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 6: about whether or not they felt safe coming to the 561 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 6: bubble or whether they would want to devote their time 562 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 6: to social justice initiatives. So I would imagine that, you know, 563 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 6: some players will want to leave the bubble to go protest. 564 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 6: We saw Jalen Brown was tweeting about that everybody knows 565 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 6: that the Bucks were the first team in the league 566 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 6: to organize. 567 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 4: A march in Milwaukee. 568 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 6: So there are certainly going to be players who are 569 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 6: called to protest and called to the streets. So I 570 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 6: would imagine that some players will leave the bubble at 571 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 6: some point. Surely the governors are going to want to 572 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 6: figure out a way to make this happen, so they 573 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 6: will hopefully do everything in their power to answer some 574 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 6: of the demands that the players make. But the players 575 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 6: need to get together, which they're surely doing, and figure 576 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 6: out what exactly demands they want to make. 577 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: People are probably still wanting. 578 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 6: To play to finish out this season, no doubt about it, 579 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 6: but there are bigger things on their mind. It's hard 580 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 6: to really to really guess if they're going to want 581 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 6: to come back and play when we're just hearing that 582 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 6: they don't even know if they want to come back 583 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 6: and play. They don't know how to compartmentalize this. Not 584 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 6: everybody is able to separate what's going on in the 585 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 6: streets with what's going on on the basketball court. 586 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all of these players are going to have 587 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: a different opinion on what's right or wrong for them 588 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: and their family and how they think change can happen 589 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: and that's like how it should be. You know, they're 590 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: obviously a union and there's power and you know, solidarity, 591 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: but they're all individuals and they're all going to come 592 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: at it a different way. But it's been interesting to 593 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: see the reports of like who's spoke in this meeting, 594 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: right last night's meeting at least Eudonnis Haslam and Jalen 595 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: Brown and you know. 596 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: The Bucks. 597 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: Almost it sounded like having to like, and I don't 598 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: think it's fair, but almost having to apologize I guess 599 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: to other teams and maybe the union of like, you know, 600 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: you sort of went rogue and we did we could 601 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: have done this together, but you know, I quite frankly 602 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: think that's a little silly. And this is like it 603 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: hits home to the Bucks too, not only because Jacob 604 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Blake was shot in their own state, you know whatever, 605 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: it was forty miles from Milwaukee, but this is an 606 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: organization that has been one that has pushed changed and 607 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: put actions behind their words. They've had former players in 608 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: John Hen racially profiled, current player and Sterling Brown beaten 609 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: and attacked by the police over what was it a 610 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: parking violation. So you know this obviously it is hits 611 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: home for a lot of these players, eighty percent of 612 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: the league being black. But yeah, we'll see, we'll see. 613 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't have much more else to add. Again, we 614 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: might be back later today. I guess the only thing 615 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: I would say is you were talking about Robert Horry 616 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: and him on Spectrum. I guess it was in La 617 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: speaking from the heart, and I mean, it's it's heartbreaking 618 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: to see and watch Chris Webber, you guys said too, 619 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: and just incredibly eloquent and breaking down of like and 620 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: just his energy and his passion. 621 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: To like keep going. 622 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: I thought the entire NBA TV crew did an unbelievable 623 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: job yesterday afternoon when this was all breaking, when we 624 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: not when we saw the game was not going to 625 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: be happening. Sam Mitchell was preaching on that station, and 626 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: just everybody did incredible job. And then Kenny Smith last 627 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: night walking off you know, the set of Inside on 628 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: TNT there in solidarity with the players. Yeah, that's really all. 629 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: I just wanted to add anything, tasks. 630 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, just to throw in there. I know there was 631 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 5: some chatter that other teams and Lebron specifically his name 632 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 5: was thrown out there were angry with the Milwaukee Bucks 633 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 5: for stopping playing, for going yeah, quote unquote rogue and saying, hey, 634 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 5: we're not gonna play our game. I just find that hilarious. 635 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 5: It's what are we waiting for? What are they waiting for? 636 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 5: What are we going to wait for? A signed agreement 637 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 5: here for all of us to start protesting? Do we 638 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 5: see what's happening out there? I mean, it just doesn't 639 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 5: make any sense to just sit around and wait. There's 640 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 5: absolutely nothing to wait for. There's people dying from the pandemic, 641 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 5: there's a hurricane coming, people who lost their jobs. 642 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: It's just there's school scan open. I just don't understand this. 643 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, we could have made a stronger I guess the 644 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 5: argument is we could have made sent a stronger message 645 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 5: if it was all whatever eleven teams that are still there. 646 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 5: You send a message by walking out, and they sent 647 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 5: that message, and now things have to happen, and it's 648 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 5: up to everybody out there listening if they want to 649 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 5: vote and change things in their own state and their 650 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 5: own local governments. It's fairly important because there's all those 651 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 5: things that I just mentioned about one hundred and eighty 652 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 5: thousand people being dead and schools aren't opening. And those 653 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 5: things aren't on the agenda of the administration at hand 654 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 5: right now. They're having a party right now. So I 655 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 5: would look into how you vote a vote dot org. 656 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 5: It's pretty freaking important, and so people, I have no 657 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 5: idea how you can be mad at the bucks. I 658 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 5: just have no clue how you can really say that 659 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 5: and say, hey, won't just send me a note before 660 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 5: you decide to be patriotic. 661 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 8: I find that Bogus trey Lea, like Chris Weber said, 662 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 8: everybody always says the vote, you got a vote, But 663 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 8: you can't just vote and walk away. 664 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 6: There's more to do besides just showing up at the 665 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 6: ballot box. That's an important first step, but there are 666 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 6: people with a lot of money and money can really 667 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 6: make some changes in our country. 668 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 4: That seems to be the way to make changes. 669 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 6: I would also add listen to the Athletic NBA Show 670 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 6: with Sam Amick and David Aldridge. Some incredible, just an 671 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 6: incredible piece of work from those guys, and hearing David 672 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 6: Aldridge speak from his heart from his experiences is really 673 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 6: really powerful. And I mean, I don't know, there's just 674 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 6: a lot of things you can read about a lot 675 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 6: of listening. You can do a lot of learning you 676 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 6: can do right now, and that's what we should all 677 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 6: be doing, and we should all just keep fighting. You know, 678 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 6: the protests, the George Floyd protests were not covered as 679 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 6: much as they were back in May, no doubt about it. 680 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 6: But this has reignited the talk about social justice and 681 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 6: racism in our country. So just take the opportunity to 682 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 6: continue to educate yourself and do what you can to 683 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 6: fight in justice. 684 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is all about racism. And there's a racist 685 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 7: in the White House. Vote him out as quick as 686 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 7: you can, get rid of him, because right now he 687 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 7: doesn't care. He doesn't care. He's shown that this is 688 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 7: not an issue for him. So get rid of the 689 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 7: get rid of the fascist in the White House. That's 690 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 7: one start. So go to the voting box and vote 691 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 7: as best you can and make sure your vote counts. 692 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's call it there here today again. We 693 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: might be back later today, emergency podcast, whatever you want 694 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: to call it. We'll see what happens after the Border 695 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: Governor's meeting, after the player's second meeting there down in 696 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: the bubble, and whether the season continues, whether it doesn't. 697 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: Everybody stay safe and thanks again for joining us today. 698 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. 699 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 5: You could stay every day, and Dougie happy every many. 700 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: It's been so long with your HONA wait 701 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 5: Already, it's kind of equi