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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly Fry and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy V. Wilson. Tracy, I have been kind of working

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<v Speaker 1>through my list, as you may have noted. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've both been doing some of that lately. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is another episode that has been on my list for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time, and originally I thought I might

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<v Speaker 1>use it as one of our October Halloween programming episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I changed my mind, and I will explain why

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<v Speaker 1>I changed my mind at the end of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We are talking today about the film director James Whale,

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<v Speaker 1>who created such iconic imagery in the early half of

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<v Speaker 1>the twentieth century, particularly the very early part of the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty century, that images of the characters from his films

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<v Speaker 1>are still found everywhere. He is one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>reasons that Universal Pictures became synonymous with the horror genre,

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<v Speaker 1>but his interests as a creator were far wider than

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<v Speaker 1>simply make being gothic spook stories. If you've seen the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Gods and Monsters with Sir Ian McKellen, which in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind is a recent movie but in reality came

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<v Speaker 1>out twenty years ago, you'll you'll already know some things

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<v Speaker 1>about the end of his life, which do include him

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<v Speaker 1>taking his own life. So if that's a troubling spot

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<v Speaker 1>for you, then just be aware. He yeah. Also, just

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<v Speaker 1>heads up, we don't really talk about that particularly particular film.

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<v Speaker 1>It is based on his life, but it is a

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<v Speaker 1>fictionalized bioping. There there are entire people that didn't exist

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<v Speaker 1>in the real world correct that we're made up as

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<v Speaker 1>as um story devices to kind of talk about different

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<v Speaker 1>parts of his life. But it's a wonderful film and

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommended. I think Brandan Fraser is amazing in it,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as sir Ian McKellen. But it's definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>when you walk away from going I learned so much

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<v Speaker 1>about James Whale, because those may not be correct now

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<v Speaker 1>that came out. I think during a time when I

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<v Speaker 1>was working a kind of a weird schedule and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it in the daytime, midweek, and I was in

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<v Speaker 1>a theater alone, and I left just feeling very devastated.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that sounds perfect. It kind of was, But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a wallower, like I like a good dour

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<v Speaker 1>scenario to watch kind of a dark film. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds perfect. But so to get to his actual

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<v Speaker 1>life story. He was born on July twenty eight, eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>large working class family and Dudley worce to Share in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK. His father, William worked at a blast furnace

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<v Speaker 1>and his mother, Sarah Peters Whale, came from a mining family.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of siblings that he had varies depending on

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<v Speaker 1>the source. The documentation wasn't very good. He did have

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<v Speaker 1>some siblings for sure, though, and the family lived in

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<v Speaker 1>a small fore room flat. Yeah, we there are six documented.

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<v Speaker 1>There may have been additional siblings, we don't know. James

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<v Speaker 1>initially attended school at the Dudley Bluecoach School, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't complete his education in there. The family needed income,

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<v Speaker 1>so young James, like his two older brothers before him,

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<v Speaker 1>started working at an early age to contribute. He worked

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<v Speaker 1>as a cobbler and a sign letterer, and he squirreled

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<v Speaker 1>away a little bit of money here and there to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for night classes at the Dudley School of Arts.

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<v Speaker 1>He eventually switched to a labor job, working in sheet metal,

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<v Speaker 1>despite being poorly suited for physical work, because it paid

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<v Speaker 1>better and it offered more hope that he would actually

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pay for a complete education. In nineteen fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>James Whale was swept up into World War One, and

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<v Speaker 1>at first he just did not have any interest and

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<v Speaker 1>enlisting in staid. He volunteered at the y m c A,

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<v Speaker 1>which offered a lot of support services to the military.

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<v Speaker 1>In October of nineteen fifteen, though he finally did enlist

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<v Speaker 1>he was convinced that a draft was coming anyway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was definitely some animosity towards young men who went

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<v Speaker 1>the route he did where he opted to do this

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<v Speaker 1>volunteer work instead, so that may have also played to

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<v Speaker 1>part that he was getting a lot of social pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>He went through officer training and he became part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Worcestershire Regiment in nineteen sixteen. In nineteen seventeen, Wales

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in the Flanders Campaign when he was taken

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<v Speaker 1>prisoner and he was moved to Holdzmanden in Germany. The

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<v Speaker 1>next fifteen months, basically the remainder of the war were

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<v Speaker 1>spent as a pow but Wale put his creativity to

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<v Speaker 1>use during that time. He actually staged plays for the camp,

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<v Speaker 1>in which both captors and prisoners were the audience, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did a great deal of drawing. Early on in

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<v Speaker 1>his imprisonment, a group of twenty five of his fellow

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<v Speaker 1>Brits mounted an escape from Holzmanden, but Wale was too

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<v Speaker 1>timid to join them. Wales's theatrical efforts didn't end when

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<v Speaker 1>the war did. When he went back to England, he

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<v Speaker 1>pursued a full time stage career. This was a decision

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<v Speaker 1>he came to based on his experience at the Camp,

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<v Speaker 1>where he fell in love with the stage. Despite the

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<v Speaker 1>unusual circumstances that he was performing in immediately after the war,

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<v Speaker 1>or Whales also sold a couple of cartoons for publication

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<v Speaker 1>he had continued drawing, but despite that seemingly auspicious start,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't get any further than that with his cartoons.

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<v Speaker 1>He decided to move from the increasingly costly London to

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<v Speaker 1>Birmingham and he started working for the Birmingham Repertory Company.

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<v Speaker 1>Although he was working for the theater without pay for

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<v Speaker 1>a while before he was hired on as more than

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<v Speaker 1>a volunteer, and as his theatrical career progressed, he worked

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<v Speaker 1>with a number of people who would later become quite famous,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, Noel Coward, Elsa Lanchester, of course, who his

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<v Speaker 1>his story gets tied to quite closely, and John Gielgud,

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<v Speaker 1>among others. And it was during this time that he

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<v Speaker 1>also met costume and set designer Doris Zenkison. Doris was

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic and artistic, and James Husi called whale Bone, found

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<v Speaker 1>her just fascinating. The two of them became engaged ine

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<v Speaker 1>and they became the couple in the art scene. They tangled,

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<v Speaker 1>they went to clubs, they seemed to comp them in

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<v Speaker 1>each other just perfectly. But they broke up in This

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<v Speaker 1>is really the last time that Whale would appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be a straight man, But he spoke really highly and

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<v Speaker 1>lovingly of Doris for the rest of his life. As

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<v Speaker 1>for Doris, she went on to marry an executive at

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Walker Whiskey not long after they split up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>In interviews with people who knew him for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of his life, they all talked like, I really do

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<v Speaker 1>think he was in love with her in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they also acknowledged that they believed that he

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<v Speaker 1>knew at that point that he was not a straight man,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just had this deep affinity that carried on

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much for the rest of his life for her.

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<v Speaker 1>James Whale was also pretty unique in the time and

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<v Speaker 1>place that he lived, and that he was living fairly

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<v Speaker 1>openly as a gay man in the nineteen twenties. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>most of his colleagues knew that this was the case.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of one of those things that was

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<v Speaker 1>not spoken about a lot, but was common knowledge and

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<v Speaker 1>he did nothing to dissuade anyone from the king it.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is interesting because you may recall from previous

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of this podcast that homosexuality was illegal in England

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<v Speaker 1>until nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, everybody people describe it from

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<v Speaker 1>the industry at the time. It's sort of like an

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<v Speaker 1>open secret, where like they weren't running around yelling about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but everyone knew. Yeah. Acting had really drawn Whale to

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<v Speaker 1>the stage, but he also worked in other roles, including

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<v Speaker 1>in stage management. But it was as a director that

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<v Speaker 1>he truly made a name for himself. On June twelfthree,

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<v Speaker 1>a one act play called Father Noah opened at the

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<v Speaker 1>Strand Theater. This was wales directorial debut. Father Noah didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get a lot of attention or accolades, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>the first step in some more leadership roles within the

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<v Speaker 1>theater and then in nive he joined the Oxford Players,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a small, underfunded company. The nature of the

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<v Speaker 1>group meant that Whale once again worked in a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of roles on any given production. Act ding, set design,

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<v Speaker 1>and assistant directing all landed on his plate. As a

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<v Speaker 1>theatrical director, Wale got a lot of accolades when he

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<v Speaker 1>staged a play called Journeys End in Night. The play

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<v Speaker 1>depicted a British infantry dug out during World War One

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of four days while they awaited a

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<v Speaker 1>German attack. The original star of the play was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one year old Laurence Olivier, although when the production became

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<v Speaker 1>so successful that they had to move on to a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger venue, another actor stepped into the role. The following year,

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<v Speaker 1>the critically acclaimed play moved across the Atlantic for a

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<v Speaker 1>Broadway run, and that New York engagement actually proved pivotal

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<v Speaker 1>in James Whale's career. In the late nineteen twenties, something

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<v Speaker 1>big was happening in the film industry. That was talkies.

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<v Speaker 1>Actors couldn't rely just on their physical characterizations to carry

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<v Speaker 1>a motion picture. There was a very real need in

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood for coaches who could help the stars of silent

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<v Speaker 1>films make the transition to talkies. In It was in

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<v Speaker 1>that capacity that James Whale made his way to Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles from New York. Wale worked as a dialogue director

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<v Speaker 1>for Paramount Pictures, and then he was hired onto the

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<v Speaker 1>high profile film Hell's Angel starring Geene Harlow, the actress

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<v Speaker 1>was still quite green and uncertain of herself at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and in a scene in which she was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>seduce one of her male co stars, she asked Whale

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<v Speaker 1>for instruction on exactly what to do, to which he replied, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>my dear girl, I can tell you how to be

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<v Speaker 1>an actress, but I cannot tell you how to be

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<v Speaker 1>a woman. But starting a film career was not the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that significantly changed for Whale. While working in Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>he also met a story assistant named David Lewis. At

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Whale was forty one and Louis was, and

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<v Speaker 1>the younger man was not really impressed by the Englishman.

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<v Speaker 1>Whale found Louis captivating, though, and over time the two

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<v Speaker 1>men struck up a friendship, which became a romantic relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Whale and Lewis spent the next two decades together as

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<v Speaker 1>a couple. And we're going to get into James Whale's

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<v Speaker 1>career as a film director in just a moment, But

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<v Speaker 1>first we're going to pause for a little sponsor break.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking about nine before we cut to break.

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<v Speaker 1>And Whale also directed his first feature film in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty that was the adaptation of his successful stage play

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<v Speaker 1>Journey's End. It starred Colin Clive. That was the actor

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<v Speaker 1>who had replaced Olivier on the London stage and who

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<v Speaker 1>collaborated with James Whale many more times throughout his career.

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<v Speaker 1>After Journey's End made it successful transition to the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>James Whale was signed to a contract at Universal Studios

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<v Speaker 1>by studio head Carl Lemley Jr. Wales's first assignment under

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<v Speaker 1>this new contract was Waterloo Bridge, which was another adaptation

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<v Speaker 1>of a stage play. Like Journey's End, this film was

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<v Speaker 1>set during World War One. It focuses on a young

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<v Speaker 1>American woman in London during the conflict who has to

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<v Speaker 1>turn to x work to make money. Her life becomes

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<v Speaker 1>entwined with a convalescent soldier from the Canadian Army, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the plot centers around the people in the young

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<v Speaker 1>woman's life who see this young man as a potential

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<v Speaker 1>savior for her. Wales's adaptation came out in nine thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Two remakes of it came out in nineteen forty and

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty six, although the latter version is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>different and is titled Gabby Whale had pleased the studio

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<v Speaker 1>with his production. He had stayed on schedule, he had

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<v Speaker 1>stayed on budget, and though the film subject matter met

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<v Speaker 1>with some controversy and had to be edited in some markets,

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<v Speaker 1>it was successful enough that the director was given his

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<v Speaker 1>pick of projects for his third film, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>in one Wale directed what would become one of his

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<v Speaker 1>most famous films of all time, Frankenstein, another adaptation. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the screenplay was based on Mary Shelley's novella, and the

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<v Speaker 1>appeal of the Frankenstein's story for Wale was really simple.

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<v Speaker 1>He just didn't feel like making another war movie that

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<v Speaker 1>strikes me as ironic for reasons that will become clear

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<v Speaker 1>as we go forward. Part of what made this picture

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<v Speaker 1>so unique is the fact that Whale wasn't a horror director,

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<v Speaker 1>even though as a genre that was still kind of congealing.

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<v Speaker 1>But he told the story of the doctor driven by

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<v Speaker 1>his obsession and the monster that he created as though

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<v Speaker 1>it were a street drama, and audiences loved it. It

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<v Speaker 1>made Boris Carlaw famous, and it really put horror on

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<v Speaker 1>the map as a respectable and commercially viable genre. And

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<v Speaker 1>it also gave James Whale a great deal of power

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<v Speaker 1>at Universal Studios. While executives at the studio wanted Whale

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<v Speaker 1>to repeat his Frankenstein's success, he decided to make a

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<v Speaker 1>film called The Impatient Maiden next. This is about a

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<v Speaker 1>young woman and a doctor who meet, fall for each other,

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<v Speaker 1>decide not to pursue a relationship, and are later pushed

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<v Speaker 1>together when the doctor has to perform an emergency appendectomy

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<v Speaker 1>on her. I feel like I've seen this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Grey's Anatomy right Like. There are so many of James

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<v Speaker 1>Whale's films that I feel like set up tropes that

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<v Speaker 1>happened forever after that, and they weren't by any means

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<v Speaker 1>the first ones. But in a lot of cases he

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<v Speaker 1>made those types of stories really famous. Now that I

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<v Speaker 1>think about it more, I think it really was an

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<v Speaker 1>actual episode of Doogie House or MV where he had

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<v Speaker 1>to operate on his girlfriend. Anyway, Whale had chosen The

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<v Speaker 1>Impatient Maiden as a project because he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be pigeonholed in horror, but it turned out to have

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<v Speaker 1>been a poor choice. This romance drama fared really poorly

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<v Speaker 1>with both critics and audiences. In two, Whale made a

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<v Speaker 1>film called The Old Dark House, which was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a horror comedy. I love this movie and I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it while I was working on the outline for this

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<v Speaker 1>and starred Boris Karloff, Gloria Stewart, Charles Lawton, and Melvin Douglas.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is now also a classic horror trope. A

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<v Speaker 1>group of people traveling in the countryside when they get

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<v Speaker 1>caught in a terrible storm that makes it impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>continue their journey, and they seek shelter in a creepy

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<v Speaker 1>house with eccentric inhabitants, and things play out from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Wale made two films that released in nineteen thirty three.

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<v Speaker 1>The first was The Kiss Before the Mirror. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery about a lawyer and his possibly adulterous wife

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<v Speaker 1>and a trial in which the lawyer is defending a

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<v Speaker 1>man who murdered his own cheating spouse. This was not

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<v Speaker 1>a blockbuster, but Whale's second film of nineteen thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>had quite the opposite reception. When The Invisible Man hit theaters.

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<v Speaker 1>It amazed audiences and delighted critics with its special effects work.

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<v Speaker 1>Claude Rains, in the starring role, gave a memorable vocal performance,

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<v Speaker 1>and the film became one of the year's biggest hits.

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<v Speaker 1>There's obviously a pattern that was developing in James Whale's

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<v Speaker 1>career where his most popular films were in this newly

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<v Speaker 1>popular horror genre. But rather than make another horror film

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<v Speaker 1>after The Invisible Man, he turned his efforts instead to

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<v Speaker 1>a rom com called By Candle Light. It was adapted

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<v Speaker 1>from a stage play by Austrian writers Siegfried Geyer and

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Farcas, and it involved a case of mistaken identity.

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<v Speaker 1>A gentleman's butler falls in love with somebody who mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>him for the gentleman that he works for. This was

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<v Speaker 1>considered to be a light light fair, not particularly serious,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing special. Yeah uh and again it it did okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not great uh. Whale still, though, opted out of making

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<v Speaker 1>another horror film, even though that probably would have been

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<v Speaker 1>an easy way for him to say, look, I made

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<v Speaker 1>another adant. Instead, he turned to serious drama with an

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<v Speaker 1>adaptation of a novel by John Galsworthy titled One More River.

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<v Speaker 1>This film features the story of a married English couple

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<v Speaker 1>who look perfect to outsiders, but then it's quickly revealed

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<v Speaker 1>to the audience that in private, the husband is physically

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<v Speaker 1>and emotionally abusive to his wife, who leaves him, only

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<v Speaker 1>to have him threaten her with a smear campaign of

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<v Speaker 1>adultery despite no wrongdoing on her part. This film was

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<v Speaker 1>critically acclaimed and people who saw it thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>quite amazing, but not many people actually wanted to see it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it flopped at the box office. Maybe because of

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<v Speaker 1>that series of lukewarm non horror projects, Wale finally decided

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<v Speaker 1>to do what Universal and the public had been asking

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<v Speaker 1>him to do for years, which was returned to horror

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<v Speaker 1>and make a sequel to Frankenstein. While Treatments had been

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<v Speaker 1>proposed for a Frankenstein follow up, it was Wale who

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<v Speaker 1>finally decided that a love interest provided the most appealing possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>So Wale's work on the Bride of Frankenstein was lighter

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<v Speaker 1>in tone than his previous work. He was more at

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<v Speaker 1>play as a director, and the look of the film,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to cinematographer John jay Mescomb, was based in the

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<v Speaker 1>paintings of Rembrandt, contrasting bright, highlighted sections of any given

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<v Speaker 1>frame with the deepest of shadows to create depth and drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Wale decided his friend Elsa Lanchester for the role, then

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<v Speaker 1>carefully designed the bride's look inspired by the mummies of Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>Her iconic hair was modeled on the head pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>Nefer Tit, and her makeup was carefully sketched out by

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<v Speaker 1>the director in a series of drawings. Lanchester brought a

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<v Speaker 1>unique inspiration to the role. The bride's behavior and movement

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<v Speaker 1>was based on the swans at Hyde Park. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>uh had only read that recently. I'm sure I've probably

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<v Speaker 1>passed over it before, but the idea of the way

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<v Speaker 1>she hisses and like turns her roughly was based on

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<v Speaker 1>these swans that she had had been observing. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting story where he was already something like ten

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<v Speaker 1>days or two weeks into production before he cast her.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, we can't figure out who the actress is,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll just start shooting and we'll figure it out,

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<v Speaker 1>which to me sounds terrifying, but James Wales seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>have it all in hand. We talked a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>the Bride of Frankenstein, of course, in our two parter

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<v Speaker 1>that we did about Elsa Lanchester a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but we didn't at that time really discuss how the

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<v Speaker 1>film impacted James Whale's life and career. In terms of

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<v Speaker 1>commercial success, the film was an unqualified success. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no way you could frame it where it was not

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<v Speaker 1>a huge hit. After Whale's Bride had terrified and charmed

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<v Speaker 1>audiences and made a lot of money in the process,

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<v Speaker 1>Wale was given more or less free reign to work

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<v Speaker 1>on whatever projects he wanted to at Universal. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a unique situation. Only a very few directors at the

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<v Speaker 1>time had this level of creative freedom that James Whale

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<v Speaker 1>had earned. And next up, we're going to delve into

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<v Speaker 1>what his life was like after the Bride, But first

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna pause for a little sponsor break. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>James Whale was getting pressure to make another horror film

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<v Speaker 1>immediately after The Bride of Frankenstein, he opted to direct

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<v Speaker 1>a comedic murder mystery called Remember Last Night. And this

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<v Speaker 1>takes place in the aftermath of a drunken party during

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<v Speaker 1>which there was a murder which none of the attendees,

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<v Speaker 1>who all got black out drunk, could recall. A hypnotist

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<v Speaker 1>is summoned to help recover the partygoers memories, but then

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<v Speaker 1>additional murders take place, deepening the whole mystery and sending

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<v Speaker 1>everything into disarray. Remember Last Night was a money pit.

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<v Speaker 1>Universal took a hit on it because ticket sales were

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<v Speaker 1>so dismal. They ended up deep in the red. On

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Wale needed a successful film, and his next

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<v Speaker 1>picture was just that. It wasn't horror but instead it

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<v Speaker 1>was a musical. He adapted the stage place show Boat

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<v Speaker 1>into a huge, lavish production that once again pleased the

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<v Speaker 1>studio by making a nice profit. Yeah, but because of Showboat,

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<v Speaker 1>the studio actually changed significantly. It made a nice profit,

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<v Speaker 1>but not for the people that originally started the project.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the Lemlies put the studio in a financially

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<v Speaker 1>precarious position, they were actually pushed out in six They

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<v Speaker 1>had been willing to take risks, both creatively and financially,

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<v Speaker 1>but even though Carl Lemley Sr. Had founded Universal alone

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<v Speaker 1>that he had taken out to complete the over budget

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<v Speaker 1>show Boat ended up doing him in before the picture,

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<v Speaker 1>which turned a very nice profit, was even released. Standard Capital,

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<v Speaker 1>which had issued the loan, seized control of Universal financier

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<v Speaker 1>John Cheever. Cowden became president and chairman of the studio,

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<v Speaker 1>and despite just having made a massively successful film, James

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<v Speaker 1>Whale suddenly found himself on a tight leash, no more

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<v Speaker 1>freedom to do as he pleased creatively. Almost immediately, the

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<v Speaker 1>sting of being overseen by leadership that was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more worried about money than artist ry and really hit Whale.

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<v Speaker 1>In seven, he directed a film adaptation called The Roadback,

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<v Speaker 1>which was based on a novel, and the film was

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<v Speaker 1>critical of the Nazi regime. The German government threatened to

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<v Speaker 1>boycott all Universal Pictures if the film wasn't edited significantly

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<v Speaker 1>to remove all the anti Nazis sentiment. Under the Lemley's

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<v Speaker 1>Whale might have had more leverage to keep his movie

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<v Speaker 1>as he had made it. A cowed and feared the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of the profit from the German market. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a second director come in and reshoot entire sections of

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<v Speaker 1>the film. Significant editing was done on the portions that

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<v Speaker 1>Whale had shot. I feel like that's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that in retrospect everybody probably felt really stupid for

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<v Speaker 1>having done. But that's just me. I don't know, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>During seven and eight, Whale directed several small pictures, including

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<v Speaker 1>a remake of The Kiss Before the Mirror titled Wives

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<v Speaker 1>under Suspicion, but none of those films were really successes.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been kind of alienated at Universal, so he

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<v Speaker 1>made several movies as a freelance director with other studios.

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<v Speaker 1>In NY nine, he made The Man in the Iron Mask,

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<v Speaker 1>which was one of his strongest efforts of the last

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<v Speaker 1>several feature films. The score was nominated for an Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>and it was also Peter Cushing's first film. Reviews were mixed,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was ultimately a successful commercial offering. His last

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<v Speaker 1>two feature films, Green Hill and They Dare Not Love

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<v Speaker 1>We're released in nineteen forty and nineteen forty one. Green

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<v Speaker 1>Hell starred Douglas Fairbanks, and a jungle adventure in South America,

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<v Speaker 1>was incredibly expensive to make and was such a flop

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<v Speaker 1>that the studio reused the lavish sets just to try

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<v Speaker 1>to recoup some of their losses in the overhead. They

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<v Speaker 1>Dare Not Love was another war picture, this time about

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<v Speaker 1>a Prince of Austria forced to flee to London when

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<v Speaker 1>the Nazis took over his country. A second director, Charles Vidor,

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<v Speaker 1>also worked on that film, allegedly because Whale had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>sick with the flu, but there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>rumors that there were actually on set conflicts with the

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<v Speaker 1>director that led to that change. After They Dare Not Love,

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<v Speaker 1>Wales stepped away from work for a while. He decided

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<v Speaker 1>to return to his roots as an artist, and he

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<v Speaker 1>set up a studio in his home. He occasionally picked

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<v Speaker 1>up small directing jobs, but for the most part he

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<v Speaker 1>spent the nineteen forties and semi retirement. In nineteen fifty two,

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<v Speaker 1>Whale returned to England. He was directing a play there,

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<v Speaker 1>a farcet titled Pagan and the Parlor. He had asked

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<v Speaker 1>his longtime partner David Lewis to go with him, as

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<v Speaker 1>he planned to extend the trip into a European tour,

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<v Speaker 1>but David, who had been dealing with his own professional challenges,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like he could take an extended leave, so

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<v Speaker 1>James went alone. After spending several weeks in London seeing

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<v Speaker 1>to the production, Wale moved on to Paris, where he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know very many people, but one night he met

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<v Speaker 1>a young man from Strasbourg named Pierre Fogel. Fogel was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five and he started a relationship with the sixty

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<v Speaker 1>three year old Whale. James purchased a car and hired

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<v Speaker 1>Pierre's his chauffeurst that the two men had a pretext

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<v Speaker 1>to travel together. When he went back to London to

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<v Speaker 1>continue work on Pagan and the Parlor, Fogel went with him, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just for clarity on how the timing of that play worked.

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<v Speaker 1>He had gone to London, done several weeks of pre production,

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<v Speaker 1>gone away while things like costumes and sets were built,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he came back when it came time to

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<v Speaker 1>get to rehearsals. But the touring production of Pagan and

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<v Speaker 1>the Parlor fell apart because it became apparent that the

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<v Speaker 1>leading lady in the show, Hermione Badeley, had a serious

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<v Speaker 1>drinking problem. During one performance, she actually stumbled onto the

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<v Speaker 1>stage at completely the wrong time, and because her contracts

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<v Speaker 1>stipulated that she would retain the role as long as

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<v Speaker 1>the production continued to tour, she couldn't legally be replaced,

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<v Speaker 1>So the decision was made to shut it down completely

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<v Speaker 1>and James Whale returned home to Los Angeles, but he

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<v Speaker 1>had a plan to move Pierre Fogel to the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he got home, he told David Everything that

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<v Speaker 1>he had met a young man in a club in

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<v Speaker 1>Paris and that his new romance had really reinvigorated his life,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he intended for the young man to live

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<v Speaker 1>with them. David Lewis did not want to share his

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<v Speaker 1>home and his beloved with a stranger imported from Paris,

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<v Speaker 1>and David ultimately decided to move out. It was an

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>abrupt end to the relation and ship, but the two

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>men stayed friends. Fogel arrived in l a shortly after

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.959
<v Speaker 1>the new year, but then in nineteen fifty three he

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>returned to Paris, and his exit catalyzed a period of

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>true hedonism for Wale. He became infamous for hosting wild

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>pool parties for scores of young men, but when Pierre

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>returned to Waleses home in mid nineteen fifty four, things

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>changed almost instantly, and the retired director became almost antisocial.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 1>He had always been known, even before his sort of

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>hedonism period, for having these amazing parties and knowing really

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>fabulous people and just having a really fun lifestyle, but

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>at that point he stopped hosting those famous dinner parties

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and he rarely ventured out, only visiting friends occasionally, and

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>instead he chose to stay home and paint. In nineteen

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>fifty six, Whale had a minor stroke during dinner. Pierre

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 1>could see that something was off, but James seemed to

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>recover after a few moments and he seemed like himself again.

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<v Speaker 1>But within a few days it became clear that there

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>was some damage. His coordination was off, his mood would

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>change really abruptly when he finally went to a doctor.

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Because he hadn't sought care sooner, there wasn't much that

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>could be done. Yeah, Pierre had actually said should we

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>get a doctor, and James was like, no, I think

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine. Like it was a very minor couple of

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>moments where he was just kind of not quite right

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and then felt like he recovered, almost like what would

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:30.239
<v Speaker 1>happen in any number of you know, passing illnesses. So

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>they thought it was nothing. But then a second, more

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>severe stroke followed a few months later, and this led

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>to a hospitalization. This also became uh kind of a

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>layered treatment situation because he was also diagnosed with depression,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and to treat that, he was given shock treatments. But

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>after he finally returned home, he hired one of the

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>male nurses, j Wrigley, who had looked after him during

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>his hospitalization, as his personal nurse. After this second stroke,

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 1>whale did a little design work for various product shins,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>but he really had trouble with mood swings. He had

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>an increasing dismay at needing to be dependent on other people.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>On seven, he went about his morning routine, and then

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>he waded into the swimming pool, where he dove headfirst

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>into the water, striking his head on the bottom. His

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>maid found him when she tried to find him for lunch.

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>James had left a note he saw only decline in

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>his future and he didn't want to live that way.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>He also added a PostScript to that note that his

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>finances were all handled and he asked those that he

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 1>loved to please understand that he was choosing to not

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>suffer any longer for his wishes. He was cremated, although

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>why he had wanted to have his ashes scattered, they

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>were not. They were putting an urn and um Uh

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>interred in the cemetery. His will divided his estate among

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Pierre Fogel for Whales surviving four siblings, and David Lewis.

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of rumors at the time that

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>this happened about what had happened, because that note wasn't

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>public for a long time. Yeah, yeah, there were lots

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.239
<v Speaker 1>of u uh theories about what that could have been,

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.239
<v Speaker 1>what could have actually happened, and if there had been

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>foul play, and um, but no, and he was I

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I won't say I love it, but I it was

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>so in character for him to explain that the finances

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>were all fine, because he had, in part, probably because

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he had grown up so very poor, always been really

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>careful and really smart about money, Like he lived a

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>very fabulous life, but he always did so exactly within

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>his means and had put away enough money that when

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>he decided he didn't want to direct anymore for a while,

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that was not going to be a financial burden in

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>any way. So it does when you read it, it

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>does sort of strike me as almost comedically perfectly in

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>character for him to be like, don't worry, the finances

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>are all taken care of. Uh. That's so very English

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of him, in the way that he liked everything to

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>be very ordered. So uh. While he's known to this

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>day largely as a director of horror films, do you

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>actually look at his body of work that does only

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>make up about twenty percent of it. And that is

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>why I decided to do his episode now instead of

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>saving it for October because he didn't feel like he

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>was a horror director. He felt like he was a

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>director of many things, so it seemed a little more

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>respectful to just put it during the middle of the

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>middle of late spring, early summer. I did, Uh, when

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I set up the tags for today's episode, I did

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>tag him with those episodes because they are related. But

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that's just so they'll be in the same collection on

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>our website. All the stuff you can find in one place. Yeah,

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that's I mean. I think for a lot of people

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that are film buffs, that might be their entree into

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>seeing the work of James Whale. But there are some

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>really fun ones outside of it. Like they're not all

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>good Greenhill, It's not a good movie. There's like, no,

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no way to make that a good movie. You

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>could try. But uh, some of his other films really

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>are quite interesting. He because he came from that design background,

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>his eye for the visual was always spectacular, so the

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>way he would set up shots was really wonderful. Uh.

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>There are some great stories about how when he first

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>went to Hollywood as a dialogue coach, he was keenly

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>aware of how the art of filmmaking was being ignored

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit because they were so focused on capturing

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the audio of dialogue that they would set up coverage

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>shots that had nothing to do with composition, but just

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>where they could put microphones. And he was like that,

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>there's there are better ways to do this. Uh So,

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>so he's he's very interesting. Uh. One of the books

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I read in preparation for this, that's a biography of him,

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>is really excellent and talks a lot about his insights

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>into films he was coming into the business and and

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>theater as well, and he just seemed like an incredibly

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>astute and smart person who really knew what he wanted

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>to do on any given project, which I sort of love.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I have a listener mail. It is also about a

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>director that we've already talked about, and I lately have

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>been seeming listener mail quite by accident, but I love

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>this email so and is from our listener, Lindsay. She writes,

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Dear Holly and Tracy. When you mentioned that Lotta Reinenger

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>grew up in the Charlottenburg neighborhood in Berlin during your

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>recent episode, I was so excited, Although I didn't know

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>anything about Lotta Reineger and her enchanting animation. I did

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>know a little bit about Charlottenburg because I happened to

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>live there. After learning about her from your well researched podcast,

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I set out to find any memorials to her in

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>my neighborhood, and I was thrilled to find a plaque

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>on the building where she lived. The plaque reads in English,

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I believe more in fairy tales than in newspapers, and

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>then marks the birthplace at her birthplace uh and talks

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>about how she was the pioneer of cartoons, and then

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it goes on. Between ninety six she created the first

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>long animated film of film history. It was mainly based

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>on fairy tales and opera motifs. She designed numerous silhouettes

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and silhouette films. She left Germany and I need thirty five,

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>returned before the end of the war and returned to

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Berlin and lived in England from nineteen nine. Lindsay rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of your podcast, I was not only able to

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>learn about a little known place near me, but I

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>was also able to teach my children about lot of

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Rehineger and share some of her animation that I found online.

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I hope her kids were captivated. I'm very curious how

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>modern kids perceive animation in that style, so if anybody

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>wants to share those insights, please do. Thank you so

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>much Lindsay for this email. What a wonderful thing to

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>be able to walk out into your neighborhood and find

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Rhineger's birthplace. That sounds very cool to me.

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