1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: Bucky together by Coastal again here today, I'm in. I'm 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: a New York buck. Look like your back Monday night 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: or we mischeon on Tuesday. But good to see, man, 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: how are you doing? 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 3: I'm good? Bad Monday night, bade Monday night performance for 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 3: the team, and DJ, you you know what this is like. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: As much as we kind of keep it non biased 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: when we're doing our stuff for NFL Network, when you're 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: with a team like it becomes we you kind of 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: play like your fandom, and man, it is tough when 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 3: your team goes down and then when you see Trevor 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: Lawrence go out the game, not good, not good, not 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: good at all, Like luckily they got a better than 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: anticipated report with the high ankles frame. But DJ, for 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: a minute, I mean it's almost like being the the 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: high ranking executive. You see the franchise crumpling to the floor, 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: You're like, oh no, all the hopes and dreams tied 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: to the quarterback. Look, it's just a lesson in team building, 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: Like we talk about quarterbacks all the time in the 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: importance of a franchise quarterback, but you've talked about it. 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: The underrated position is the backup quarterback. I think after 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: this year, after the last couple of years where we've 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: seen like seventy almost eighty quarterbacks have to play in 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: games starts, that position should be what the twentieth twenty 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: first Frank position on the team building board. That backup 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: quarterback is not a throwery position. That guy needs to 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: be someone who can play, or a young guy who 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: has developmental potential that you're waiting to get them on 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 3: the field. But it can't just be a spare part 32 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: because when that backup goes in, the confidence of the 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: team either rises or falls based on what they've seen 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: from that guy in practice. 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: I think the best way to say that, Buck, there's 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: a difference between an issue and a problem. If you're 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: all pro guard gets hurt, that's an issue. You're starting 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: quarterback get hurt, that's a problem. There is a difference 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: between the two. So you better spend a little bit 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: more on securing that backup quarterback so that your whole 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: season doesn't go down the tubes. And you saw it 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: in that game, Jake Browning making them competitive shows that 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: they did a good job of not only identifying a 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: good player for that role, but then developing him and 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: getting him ready when his opportunity came. 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: How about that man, It'd be a case that the 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 3: guy played unbelievable DJ. I mean, this is the same 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: guy that at Washington, you know, some people viewed as 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: a throwaway. Me. The lesson to be learned in watching 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: him in that game was not only his intellect one. 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: He was an experienced player at dub I think those 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: rests matter. We continue to talk about it like it's 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: kind of like the brock pretty effect. Guys that played 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: for a long time in college. That experience does matter. 55 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 3: But also the supporting cast because no matter what the 56 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: Jaguars could talk about in terms of, yeah, they got 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: the backup quarterback, but you know what still exists Jamar 58 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 3: Chase T Higgins, Tyler Boyd, Joe Mixon, And so when 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 3: you have a backup quarterback surrounded but supreme talent, it's 60 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: a little easier for the head coach to kind of 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: manage the game when you still have the talented weapons 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: on the perimeter. 63 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm like America, I love a good sequel, and 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: it's like watching case keenum two point zero, like he 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: just changed jerseys, change names, and then off your goes. 66 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: He's running around making plays and doing that stuff. And 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: you know the difference is at the end of that game, 68 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the Cincinnati Bengals feel like, hey, 69 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: wait a minute, Yeah, season's not all right, just a 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: little spark And you know, look, that's the great thing 71 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: about the NFL in comparison to the college football playoff. 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: In the NFL, you got to earn your way into 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: the tournament. And once you earn your way into the tournament, 74 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: you got a chance, just like everybody else, to win. 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: And so that that glimmer of hope that the Bengals have, 76 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: we'll see what it does in terms of changing their 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: fortunes going as they had done stretch. 78 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. On today's show, we're going to get 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: to the game of the week, which again is an 80 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: Eagles game. They have the Cowboys, another game second week 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: in a row where the Eagles are the underdog, and 82 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: we'll get to that game and a little bit. Also 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: have your BUCkies Coach's corner. We have our rookie numbers 84 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: from the week, our little rookie ranking based off of 85 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: our little Rookie index based off of performance as well 86 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: as playtime. So we'll get that as well. But I 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: want to start at the top on this article that 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: came out in The Athletic, and I should probably give 89 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: you the name of who wrote it because it was 90 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: a very in depth, very compelling piece here, very long 91 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: article on the Athletic. This is by Joseph Person and 92 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: Diana Rassini as well, so the two of them, they 93 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: got together on this and they wrote, I don't know 94 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: how else to say it, just a damning article on 95 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: the collapse of Frank Reich's time there, which ended up 96 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: being the shortest tenured head coach going back to the seventies, 97 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: only making it through what eleven games, So it was 98 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: a brief stint there, and it turns out there were 99 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: a lot of issues outside of whatever blame you a 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: to put on Frank Reich. I mean, I'll open the 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: floor to you, but they had over twenty sources in 102 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: this article talking about the dysfunction and the numerous issues. 103 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: But I'll let you go where you want to go 104 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: and I'll follow you up. 105 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: DJs. The number one thing that tears up our team 106 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 3: when you don't have people that are in alignment is 107 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: exactly what I mean. Look, every leadership book that we've 108 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: ever read, everything that we've ever talked about, when it 109 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: comes to people that have built success of businesses, businesses 110 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: that are built to last, it talks about that synergy, 111 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: and it talks about the leadership model from top to bottom. 112 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: And whether that's the owner who's set in the culture 113 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: or whatever, he is allowed that to happen. Because David 114 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: Temper could have had all that off by said, hey, 115 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: the chain of command isn't you come directly to me, 116 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: You need to take it to the GM, and then 117 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: he filters it up to me. But now that everyone 118 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: has access to him, man, it's the feeding frenzy. Everyone 119 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: who has a complaint or everyone who has a suggestion 120 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: can go right to him. And all it does it 121 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: clouds his decision making. It clows his judgment because I 122 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: don't know if he's been around the game enough to 123 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: know what's real and what's imagined when it comes to 124 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: building a championship team. And when you have all of 125 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: these people that are in self preservation mode, Look, it 126 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: gets dicey. You and I have both been a part 127 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 3: of losing programs and had to navigate that. And it's 128 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: tough going through when your team is losing in the 129 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: pros and whether you're in the officer on the road. Look, 130 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: it's miserable every Sunday to see your team get well. 131 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: But the great teams are still able to understand what 132 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: the destination is. They're understanding that part of this is 133 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: a process. It's our first year together. It's not going 134 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: to be smooth settling to the title. We got to 135 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: figure out what to do with the personnel that we have. 136 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: What is the plan that is in place, what was 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: the plan that was talked about, How can we get 138 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: back on track if we need to deviate from the plan? 139 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: All of those things, and what I saw from that article, 140 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if they were ever on board from 141 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: the time that they were all hired. I just don't 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: think that this was a group that was cohesive, in 143 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: a group that really believed in whatever the vision that 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: was touted by either the owner, the genial manager or 145 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: the hate coach. 146 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm struggling with this a little bit because 147 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: I do think, Look, you don't want to have yes men. 148 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: You don't want to be in a situation where you 149 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: just get everybody that has the same experiences in life. 150 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: You need to have some diversity on your coaching staff. 151 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: Guys come from different walks of life and come maybe 152 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: with some different ideas, some fresh approaches. But I think 153 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: the overall theme has to be the same, and I 154 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: don't think they were. I don't think they were on 155 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: the same page. I wrote it down as mission and message, 156 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: like we've got to all have the same mission, Like 157 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: we're all trying to get to the same thing, and 158 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: then we've got to communicate and speak with the same message. 159 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: You read this article, some people saying, oh, they weren't 160 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: coaching Bryce. Youm hard enough. Other people saying you got 161 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: to protect him a little bit. You've got people point fingers. 162 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: You talked about different You know, there's a lot of 163 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: different entrances into the owner's office, you know, coming from 164 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: all over the place. There's a reason why you watch games, 165 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: you don't see wide receiver coaches out on the field 166 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: yelling at officials because you have a one voice rule. 167 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: The head coach is the only one who speaks to 168 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: the officials, and everything should funnel through the general manager 169 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 2: and the head coach on the way to the owner. 170 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: You can't have side channels like that going on. And 171 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: I think when you think about the difference in scheme, 172 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: like to me, it's that you know, running one direction 173 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 2: or the other, you can be successful. What you can't 174 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: do is keep changing course. You never get to either. 175 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: You never get to eat your destination. And that's what 176 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: it sounds like under center. We're a gun team, We're 177 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: gonna run insides on outsides on. No, we're a downhill 178 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: run team. We've got offensive lineman. There's big road grader 179 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: types that fit what Frank Reich has been with and 180 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: how he's played, especially coming from Philadelphia downhill. And then 181 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: now you've got what we need more athletic line, like 182 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: what are you? You can't be all things, you can't 183 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: serve all masters. And that's what to me seems like 184 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: the downfall there. 185 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: I think you and I have talked about here. You 186 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 3: got to keep the main thing the main thing. But 187 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: in two you know what the main thing is, you 188 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: don't know how to go about it. And so to me, 189 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: this is almost like a failure from day one. When 190 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: the general managers got fit who's friend of mine and 191 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: Frank Wright get on board, they need to be those 192 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: early conversations, here's what we want this team to look like. Normally, 193 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: the general manager serves the head coach. The head coach 194 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: is like, hey, here's how our envision our team playing. 195 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: I want to be a downhill, physical football team. We 196 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: want to have these kind of receivers on the outside, 197 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: this kind of running game. This is a quarterback that 198 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: ideally fits. The same thing is done on the defense 199 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: side of the ball. This is where we want to be. 200 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: We want to be big and stout of front, athletic 201 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: guys off the edge, big tall corners. All of that 202 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: is laid out. Then the general manager works with the 203 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: scouting staff to make sure that the players that are scouted, 204 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: the players that are put on the board, fit the 205 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: vision of how they want to play. And to me, 206 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like any of that stuff has taken 207 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: place because you have a hodgepodge or a mismatch in 208 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: the players on the field don't necessarily match the scheme 209 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: that was. I mean, w'onn't even know what the scheme 210 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: is that they wanted to play. The conversation communication, better 211 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: communication and planning and unification of what the style is 212 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: going to be probably could have hitded off some of 213 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: these things before we even get to the quarterback. It 214 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: just doesn't seem like they were on the same page 215 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: in terms of how this. 216 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: Team was going to operate and function on the field. 217 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: And you also have reports, Look, you had a couple 218 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: holdover coaches. I believe the offensive line coach, special teams 219 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: coach were held over from the previous regime. And I'm 220 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: speaking as somebody who was I've been fired once in 221 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 4: my life and new regime came in and I was 222 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: part of the old regime, and I got swept up 223 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: in that. 224 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: I didn't even I understood it. I understood it. It 225 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: didn't you know with something. Hey, you want to go 226 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: get your your people that you want, you got your 227 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: your Your buck stops with you. Go get your people. 228 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: But it just seems like there was just a hodgepodge, 229 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: you know, no alignment whatsoever, scheme stuff like quarterback wise, 230 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: I think and I and I'm friends with Fitter too. 231 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: I like Scott, So I don't know how much you 232 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: know he's involved in that. But you've got to have 233 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: specifically your offensive lineman and your offensive line coach and 234 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: your system. 235 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: Have to match. 236 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: You cannot have those be in misalignment. In other words, 237 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: like we have an offensive line coach who prefers this, 238 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: we have offensive linemen who are built to do that, 239 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: and now we have a scheme that you know, we're 240 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: trying to do all. It's like that stuff all has 241 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: to line up. He's an offensive line coach. Wise, they 242 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: will all say we can do everything we give us 243 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: any scheme of a coach. No, you are a zone 244 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 2: guy or you are a gap guy, Like that's pretty 245 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: much how that works. That's your specialty. Go get guys 246 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: that function in that style of play, and then off 247 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: you go. It just seems like, man, it doesn't fit. 248 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: The parts don't fit. 249 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: Now, the parts don't fit in DJ. You're right, And 250 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: it's one of those things that it would always be 251 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: hard for me, like not one to be one that 252 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: necessarily hurts people's feelings. But when you come in you 253 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: want to try and save everybody. Could you understand the 254 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: heartache that comes with a if you let people go 255 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: or whatever. However, I think now in my fifties, I 256 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: think you have to make those decisions when you come in. 257 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: Look like it or not. Here's what it is. I'm 258 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: gonna bring my own people I'm gonna bring to people 259 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: that I know, I trust that kind of understand we 260 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: see the game through a similar prism, and we're just 261 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: gonna go about it that way. A lot of times 262 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: when you have holdovers, holdovers tend to cling to the 263 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: way things have always been, and even though they will 264 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: give you the service lip service saying oh now I 265 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: can do this. I can go from a power teaching 266 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: gap schemes to zone schemes, whatever. Man, there's one thing 267 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 3: to living in it and loving it and knowing it. 268 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 3: Like the things that you're doing, you got to know 269 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: it and you gotta love it because when it doesn't 270 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: work initially, you gotta love it enough to know that 271 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: I gotta fix it. You can't then say the first 272 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: time of you know, struggle, Okay, we got to scrap it. 273 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 3: To me, that's what this felt like, because DJ, we've 274 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: seen guys. Look think about Dan Campbell in the Lions. 275 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: They got off to a slow start during his tenure, 276 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: but he never wavered in what he believed it and 277 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: eventually they turned the corner. What I don't like is 278 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: man like. It was six seven games in they already 279 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 3: handed off play calling like to me, is way too soon, 280 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: and I just it just didn't seem like it was 281 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: anything that was rooted in strong self belief in the plan, 282 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 3: the process, in the way to go forward. 283 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a difference between I heard this 284 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: analogy one time. There's a difference between sailboats and submarines. 285 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: Right. 286 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: If you're a sailboat and the storm comes, you are 287 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: rocking with the waves all over the place. If you're 288 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: a submarine and you're deeply rooted, you're down low that 289 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: you don't even know the storm came, Buck, because that's 290 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: where you're that's where you're secure. That stuff's all happened 291 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 2: up here. But we are together and we're underneath all 292 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: of that stuff. I feel like this is a This 293 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: was an example of once the once the storm came, 294 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 2: once they had a little bit of turbulence, Buck, it 295 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: just fell apart. 296 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: You can't full apart, you get. I mean, look, you 297 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: have to be deeply rooted in and it doesn't mean 298 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: that you don't tweak or make subtle change, don't. 299 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: Be stuff, but you also have core, non negotiable beliefs. 300 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: This is what we believe in and whatever it is. 301 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: If you're a championship team, look, man, we believe in 302 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: a strong, dominant defense, a physical running game that sets 303 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: up a play action passing attack, great on special teams. 304 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: This is who we are. You may change how we 305 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: go about it, Okay, like this year we may not 306 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: be as much of a power team. We may have 307 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: to lean into more zone. But like your belief, your core, 308 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: your vision for how the game is played, you don't 309 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: deviate from that. And look, I just don't think they 310 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: really had a firm or a clear grasp on what 311 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: it is that they want it to be. And if 312 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: you're not able to not only articulate that vision to 313 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: your coaches, but clearly articulate that vision to your players, 314 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: well no one in the building is gonna believe in 315 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: what you're doing. Particularly after you lose a couple of games. 316 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: That's when it gets shaky. You have to continue to 317 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: be able to stand in front of the room and say, guys, 318 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: here's where we're at, here's what we're doing. Look at 319 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: the Broncos. I mean, it doesn't get worse than giving 320 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: up seventy points in a game in an NFL game, 321 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: start out one and four, but then to put themselves 322 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: back in a position that came because the coach had 323 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: a strong belief in how they were going to get 324 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: it done. He didn't waive it from debt. He may 325 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: have made some adjustments, but they still believed in those 326 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: core values and ultimately, man, if you stand in it 327 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: and you figure it out, it eventually a turn. You 328 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: just have to have enough belief and you have to 329 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: be able to get the work done no doubt. 330 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: Again, it's a great article that you can learn a 331 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: lot from it, not just in this case with the Panthers, 332 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: but crossover into any line of work. You'll learn something. 333 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: It's Joseph Person and Dane were sini. I have to 334 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: check that out on the athletic go ahead. 335 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: BUK the last thing and I think here's the other 336 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: part that makes it makes it hard because we've all 337 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: been there DJ with teams that have had top picks 338 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: or whatever. The hardest thing for the Panthers to navigate 339 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: right now is and in yoga we always talk about 340 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: stand on your own mat. Unfortunately for the Panthers, they 341 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: always are looking over at the other mat and they're 342 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: looking at CJ. Stroud and so a team that wasn't 343 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: expected to be as good as the Panthers because remember 344 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: we all thought the player the Panthers were going to 345 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: be playoff once they got the quarterback. They're looking over 346 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: and they're looking at this team with a quarterback and 347 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: c J. Stroud? How are they having all this success 348 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: and we're struggling? How are they having this success with 349 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: maybe some unheralded past catchers and offensive line, and so 350 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: that created I would say internal pressure to fix to 351 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: fix this team right away, as opposed to, hey, we 352 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: got our quarterback. Hey, it's great that he's working for them, 353 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: But here's our plan, here's our process, and when we 354 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: get to it, it'll work. We can't worry about what 355 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: they're doing. I felt like there was this competition and 356 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: pressure because CJ. Stroud hit the ground running that there's 357 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: some I don't know, like why isn't our guy playing? 358 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: Why isn't our guy doing this? The fan base? Did 359 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: we pick the wrong guy? I think that accelerated and 360 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: elevated the pressure in the building. 361 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that unfortunately, there's you know, they 362 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: didn't look around and look at some of these other 363 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: quarterbacks who've had initial struggles and then have own into 364 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: being the answer. Go look at Miami and look at 365 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: what everybody was saying about him when he was getting benched, 366 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 2: and they don't know, you know, it looked like a 367 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: total bust. And other quarterbacks in that draft class year 368 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: with Burrow and you're with Herbert and you're thinking, what 369 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: a colossal screw up we got stuck to it. He's 370 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: not any good. Look what these other guys are doing. 371 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: Hey man, this is not it's not a linear path 372 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: to success. You're going to have some bumps in the road. 373 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: And what instead of instead of panicking, how about just 374 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: evaluate the situation and go, Okay, what do we what 375 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: are we missing? What do we need? Let's let's start 376 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: planning for the future instead of freaking out about the present. 377 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of unfortunately what the route that 378 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: they went there. So hopefully for Bryce Young they'll have 379 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: more alignment with their next staff and their next setup 380 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: and they can get on the same page and give 381 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: him a fighting chance. To me, it's another reminder that 382 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: whatever you see from Bryce Young shouldn't be a shock, like, 383 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: look look what's going on there? Like you no chance, 384 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: no chance for him to be successful with how chaotic 385 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: everything was there. All right, let's get to this, let's 386 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: get to this rookie score here real quick before we 387 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: take a break, and then we'll come back and hit 388 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: the game of the week. We do this each and 389 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: every week. The top individual rookie performance performances from week 390 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: thirteen eighth Hans the top of the list from Miami. 391 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: Sam Laporta, the tight end from Detroit has seems like 392 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: he's on here every week, as well as pookin the 393 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: cool right behind him, Parker Washington, you're Jack making one 394 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 2: of his first appearances this year. I say for him, 395 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: sharbon A, CJ. Stroud, Will Anderson. They round out the 396 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: individual list. Team wise, Lions, Packers, Seahawks, Rams, Titans. Bucket's 397 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: not a surprise. We see a lot of these same 398 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: players and teams each and every week. And team wise, 399 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: man the Packers, the run that they're on a lot 400 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: of it fueled by so many good rookie players. 401 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm blown away, but I feel like this 402 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: is to me. It goes all the way back to 403 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: my time with the Green Bay Packers as a player 404 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: and then work for guys that worked in an organization 405 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: ath he speaks to the Packers. We just talked about 406 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers not being in alignment. And the one things 407 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: that I know is the years I spent with the Packers, 408 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: there was always that alignment from top to bottom General 409 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: manager Ron Wolf, Mike Honggrin, and all the descendants and 410 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: disciples that have worked on under that. Like, you saw 411 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 3: an organization that's connected in terms of how they developed 412 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 3: the young players, how they developed the quarterback, all those things, 413 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: and this year has kind of given us an opportunity 414 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: to see how that process works. They removed Aaron Rodgers 415 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: and some of the older players in now DJ To me, 416 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: it's not a coincidence that all the young players are 417 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: flourishing because everybody in the locker room and upstairs believes 418 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: in the approach. And what you have is Jordan Love 419 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 3: having better connectivity in chemistry with the playmakers on the outside, 420 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: the young guys getting the opportunity to play. The coach 421 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: is knowing, hey, we got to put the young guys 422 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: on the field, so it's on you guys to develop 423 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: them and get them ready to go. When you have 424 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: that kind of synergy, eventually the results on the field 425 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: will happen. And that's what we're seeing in the package. 426 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: That's why before the season I was optimistic that they 427 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: would play and be a competitive team. But now when 428 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: you see them play, you understand everybody from top to 429 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: bottom is working together and is beginning to turn around 430 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 3: up in green Back. 431 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've done it. 432 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: They've they've acquired the picks, they've executed the picks, they've 433 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: developed the players, and you're seeing the plan come together, 434 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: which is exciting if you're a Packer fan, because not 435 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: only is it going well, this is just a springboard here, 436 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: this is just starting. 437 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: This is only going to get better from here. So 438 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 2: exciting times for the Green Bay Packers, the organization and 439 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: their fan base. All Right, we take quick break, we 440 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: come back. We're we hit the Game of the week 441 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: as well as Bucky's Coach's Corner. 442 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: Right after this, it's time for MTS Game of the 443 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: Week presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook. This week is a 444 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: great one. Eagles at Cowboys to spread as minus three 445 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: and a half favorite the Cowboys. The over under is 446 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: fifty two and a half and dj how quickly things 447 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: change in the National Football League. You talk about the 448 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys being the favorite coming into this game. We 449 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 3: talked about the Eagles been the best team in the league, 450 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 3: they get Molly Wade by the forty nine ers, and 451 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, we have people talking about 452 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: the Cowboys being the threat to the Niners, is the 453 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: team to beat in the NFC. This is a great 454 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: matchup because to me, the two quarterbacks are very very similar. 455 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: When they were coming out, I saw Jalen Hurts as 456 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: a version as a cousin kind of Dak Prescott and 457 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: how he would have to play. Now their games have 458 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: kind of developed differently, but I think the leadership skills 459 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: and the stuff, the toughness that he brings to the 460 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 3: table is very similar. Dak Prescott quietly is playing at 461 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: an MVP level. Mike McCarthy took over the play call 462 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: and they've emphasize some of the things that he's done well. 463 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: He's controlled the game has been I would say explosive, 464 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: but a controlled explosive offense where they getting ball to 465 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: the playmakers, but it's not a high risk, rambunctious offense. 466 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: And he's really flourished in that, and he's played to 467 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: the strength of the defense because the defense and taking 468 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: the ball away, setting them up with splash plays, short 469 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: feels they're getting all of that and at worked This 470 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 3: Cowboys team is really playing well. But the one thing 471 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: that we all question, how are they going to play 472 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: against a team that is their equal, whether the Philadelphia 473 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: Eagles are a team that they're equal, because we haven't 474 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: seen the Cowboys really dominate a team that was either 475 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: at their level or better than This would give the 476 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: football board an opportunity to see them play against a heavyweight. 477 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: Can they knock out a heavyweight or are they just 478 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: the king of the middleweights where they knock out these 479 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: teams they're supposed to be because they need to knock 480 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 3: out some of these teams if they're going to make 481 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: a run in the postseason. 482 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they're going to go up against an Eagles 483 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: pass defense. Buck, that's really one of the worst in 484 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: the league. It's one of the five worst pass defenses 485 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: in the league. Think about this, they're giving up two 486 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty yards a game last year, one hundred 487 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: and seventy nine yards a game, then number one pass 488 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: defense in the NFL. Last year. They've gone from literally 489 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: the best to one of the worst pass defenses with 490 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: largely the exact same personnel except you know, some coaching 491 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: changes there. So that that is baffling to me that 492 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: they have not been better against the past, especially when 493 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: you consider the rush that they have. I mean, they 494 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: can get after the quarterback Shack Leonard comes in there. 495 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: I'll see if they can get him up and running 496 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: quickly at the linebacker position. Maybe that can help them 497 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: a little bit. You know, they went and got buyed. 498 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: They've tried to throw resources at this thing to get 499 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: this fixed. But if the Philadelphia Eagles are going to 500 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: win this game against the you know, arguably the hottest 501 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL and Dak Prescott, you have to 502 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: play a heck of a lot better on the back 503 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: end than what they've shown this year. So that would 504 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: be my main concern and probably one of the reasons 505 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: why the Dallas Cowboys are looked at as the team 506 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: that's favorite to win this ball game. 507 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: And blood's in the water, you know, for the Eagles having. 508 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: The best record in the league, that's been you know, hey, 509 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: there's been this kind of issue defensively that's been kind 510 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: of floating around out there. And then after the Niner game, 511 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: I think that you're the Cowboys, you're pretty confident coming 512 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: into this one. 513 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: A couple of things that so one of my former 514 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: teammates and the guy who's really ted would field def 515 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 3: at Eagles self joined went on a rant after the 516 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: game against the forty nine ers, and he just talked 517 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: about the lack of toughness and the lack of tackling 518 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: on the perimeter. He talked about the dbs being disinterested 519 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 3: in coming up and tackling, and the thing that we've 520 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: talked about with the forty nine Ers, their handful of 521 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 3: teams in the National Football League, they kind of let 522 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: everyone know who you are when it comes to playing 523 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: bully ball. In those things, they expose your flaws or 524 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: they showcase where you can go toe to toe with them. 525 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 3: In that matchup, Philadelphia did not meet the standard when 526 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: it came to the physicality and toughness. The Cowboys are 527 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: not a team like that. But now that they have 528 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: seen the Niners do that, they gonna ratchet up the 529 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 3: physicality because they believe that they're gonna be able to 530 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: knock the Eagles around. The Eagles have to respond more physicality, 531 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: more toughness. They got to tackle on the perimeter. This 532 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: isn't about schemes. This is a game that is going 533 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 3: to be about the urgency, and the intensity that they 534 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: bring to the field. And if I'm Nick Sirianni, look, 535 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: we put on the pass. We got to make sure 536 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: that we get back to being the team that we were, 537 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: not only last year, but when we've been at our best, physicality, toughness, 538 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: running game defense. They got to be able to kind 539 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 3: of get back on track. Because this is it, this 540 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: is a division, this is a huge game, and so 541 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: I expect the Philodephia Eagles to step up and play 542 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 3: their best. We'll see if that's enough to get them 543 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: to win, no doubt. That was the MTS Game of 544 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: the Week presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook. 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We love this game and 554 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: we love this game for so many aspects of it. 555 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: We can talk about the chess board and the chess 556 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 3: match that goes on between teams and coaches, but at 557 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: the end of the day, man, it's one that you 558 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: got to bring great energy, great intensity, great toughness to 559 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: the field. We see that in terms of not only 560 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: your level of preparation and how you play, but we 561 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: see it in the urgency that you bring to the field. 562 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: This game is not about schemes. It's about effort and 563 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: running to the ball and getting there and getting there 564 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: sometimes with bad intentions, and being able to kind of 565 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 3: impose your will on the opponent. And sometimes that takes 566 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: a level of tenacity and persistence to wear them down. 567 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 3: A lot of times coaches like to liken football to boxing. 568 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: We're boxing. It takes like the accumulation of body blows 569 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: to wear the opponent down so where you can knock 570 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: them out in the twelfth round. Well, football is very similar. 571 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: Over a four quarter fair, your tenacity over time can 572 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: overwhelm and overpower your opponent. Are you willing to have 573 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: what we call that consistent persistence to overwhelm your opponent? Look, 574 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: that's what it takes particularly at the championship level, you 575 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: have to be willing to go toe to toe for 576 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 3: four to sixty minutes to win games. 577 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: I think about the length of a football season, you 578 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: know it's the NFL season is long, seventeen games in 579 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: the preseason, the playoffs like that is a long, long haul. 580 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: So when I think of tenacity, I think of always moving. 581 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: You're just always moving forward, right, It's just you're gonna 582 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: get you're gonna get slowed down along the way. Maybe 583 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to move as fast, but 584 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: you just keep pressing. You keep pressing, you keep pressing. 585 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 2: I love the boxing analogy that you use there, but 586 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: that that, to me, is that's tenacity. It's tenacity of hey, 587 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: maybe we've lost a couple of games in a row. 588 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: We just got to keep going, keep going, keep going, 589 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: and not get overwhelmed. You see it. We see teams 590 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: when they you know, tap out or quit whatever you 591 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: want to use. But you see teams when they stop, 592 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: they just say, it's not happening this year. You know 593 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: what's not gone our way. We've got injuries, we've had 594 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: some bad luck, got a bad call here or there. 595 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. Let you got to let that go 596 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: and you got to keep moving forward with that. To me, 597 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: shows tenacity of teams, not just of individual players. 598 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it sends from the top. Whoever the 599 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: leader is has to kind of demonstrate that no matter 600 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: what the circumstances is, you can't cave to the circumstances 601 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: around you don't have my quarterback, don't have my starting 602 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 3: right guard, where lack in our star player. Okay, you 603 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: know what, They're gonna line up at seven o'clock. They 604 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 3: gonna kick it off, and we got to be ready 605 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: to play. And those messages that you give to the 606 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: team emphasizing tenacity and toughness and grit and determination and 607 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: all those things that work together, you have to do that. 608 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: You got to bring that to your team every day. 609 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: They have to understand it. DJ you talked about the 610 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: length of the season being the marathon and the competitive 611 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: stamina that it takes to be able to kind of 612 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: ride the roller coaster that the season somehow can do 613 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: it well. That comes from your coach and the leader 614 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: being able to talk to the team every day. The 615 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: road is going to be hard. It's not going to 616 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: be easy for us to get to where we want 617 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: to go, but we got to hang in there. No 618 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: matter what, we got to continue to hang in there. 619 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: We gotta get it done. And so here are the 620 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: things that we need to do today to put us 621 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: in a situation and get it done. And it takes 622 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: that level of tenacity and toughness to do it, but 623 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: everybody has to believe in it. And it starts at 624 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: the top of the coach. 625 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: No, there you go. 626 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: I love it. 627 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: It's a good word today, tenacity and Buckie's coach's corner. 628 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: Something we can all take it with us in our 629 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: regular lives as well. This has been a fun one today. 630 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys hanging with us. We've covered a 631 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: lot of ground. We've got one more episode coming up tomorrow. 632 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: We've got Jim Naggy, our buddy, the executive director of 633 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: the Reese's Senior Bowl, is going to join us talk 634 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: a little bit about their ability to invite underclassmen for 635 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: the first time and go a little bit deeper on 636 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: some other topics as it relates to this draft class. 637 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: So be on the lookout for that one tomorrow. Until then, 638 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: we appreciate you listening to us. Always always appreciative. Right 639 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: here on move the sticks