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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up Straight Fire, PM, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight Oh your for Tuesday, August the twelfth, almost midway

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Speaker 2: through August. I just booked my ticket to Vegas to

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Speaker 2: go and enter the gambling contest. Very excited for that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna do Survivor. I'm gonna do

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Speaker 2: the David Baker thing where I just, you know, try

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars one, and then I've got some tickets I

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Speaker 2: get to cash in. I may, I don't. I may

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Speaker 2: have won enough with several tickets that I don't even have

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Speaker 2: to pay for the gambling out of my own pocket,

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Speaker 2: thanks to largely Ta and Churnoff. With that Eagles over Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: maybe I can duplicate that. I think the odds of

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Speaker 2: it are so long, and this year feels so wide open,

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Speaker 2: but obviously a big NFL show ahead. I don't know, guy, listen,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to be labor

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Speaker 2: this Shador Sanders stuff. But even if you're bored of

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Speaker 2: it or tired, hear me out here for a sec. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so really nothing is cutting through in the media so

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Speaker 2: far in this young NFL preseason a there are no

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Speaker 2: quarterback battles that are moderately interesting except the one involving

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Speaker 2: fifth round pick Shador Sanders, who was top twenty on

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah's board a lot of people had in the

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Speaker 2: top ten and then he falls to the fifth round

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Speaker 2: for mysterious reasons. That's the only interesting quarterback battle, largely

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Speaker 2: because he's going up against Dylan Gabriel, who nobody had nobody,

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Speaker 2: not one person nobody had him going before shad Door.

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Speaker 2: Nobody had him going that early. And then you've got

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Speaker 2: the fossil Flacco and then Kenny Picking, who they traded for.

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Speaker 2: So the Browns kind of sort of look inept, which

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Speaker 2: is on brand for them, like they don't know what

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Speaker 2: the hell they're doing. But if you look around the league,

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Speaker 2: like Micah Parsons asked for trade and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: like that was a hot button thing, what like ten

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Speaker 2: days ago, I think, right at the end of my vacation,

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Speaker 2: and then that's gone away because Shaduor played and now

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Speaker 2: everybody's chiming in. I'll get back to Shidor. But like

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Speaker 2: nobody gives a shit about the New Orleans Saints quarterback room.

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Speaker 2: I mean Spencer Rattler, Tyler Shook, and whoever the hell

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Speaker 2: else is there. It's like, Gosh, Derek Carr was smart,

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Speaker 2: he got the last chopper out of Saigon. I mean

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Speaker 2: that thing. They look terrible, the Saints. I could argue

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Speaker 2: the New York Giants have been so bad for so

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Speaker 2: long that nobody really cares that. Jackson Dart looks good.

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Speaker 2: And Russell Wilson is the incumbent and is like going

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Speaker 2: to WrestleMania and really enjoying being a New York City

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Speaker 2: athlete right his famous wife like he's enjoying that. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart's just grinding away in the salt mines, and

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Speaker 2: the media loves him, the coaches seem to love him.

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Speaker 2: I think Jackson Dart will probably be starting sooner than later.

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Speaker 2: I'm not ready to say he's gonna be the weak

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Speaker 2: By the end of September Jackson dartis started. That would

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Speaker 2: not shock me. But like again, we're the other quarterback battles.

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Speaker 2: The Jets decided we want Justin Fields we want to

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Speaker 2: try that. We don't want anyone else. Anthony Richardson versus

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. Absolutely no juice there. It's so strange, Like

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Speaker 2: cam Ward was the number one pick I nobody's talking

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Speaker 2: about him. He had like a good showing. I think

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Speaker 2: the Titans could win the division. I'll be betting on that, folks.

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Speaker 2: Nobody seems to talk about cam Ward. He is the

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Speaker 2: all the attention. It's all on shdure And this is

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Speaker 2: kind of a weird thing, But you guys want to

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Speaker 2: listen to Scott Galloway aka Prof g. He's freaking amazing.

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Speaker 2: Highly recommend it. It's not sports, but it's just awesome.

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Speaker 2: And he's on this kick about how the new economy

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Speaker 2: is the attention economy. All anybody wants, whether it's an app,

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Speaker 2: a media person, an athlete, all they want is your attention. Okay,

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Speaker 2: now that's it's kind of always been that way with

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Speaker 2: you could do that stuff. These are evergreen. Nobody's getting

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Speaker 2: wants to oh, oh Shoudo or the new starter. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is where we are. Adam Schefter in the middle

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Speaker 2: of Monday, and I don't this is unsourced, but Schefter

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Speaker 2: writes on Cleveland's second depth chart of the summer, here

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Speaker 2: is how the Browns are listing their quarterbacks this week.

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Speaker 2: Number one, Joe Flacco, number two, Kenny Pickett number three,

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Speaker 2: Why are you handing that to Adam Schefter? All you're

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Speaker 2: dumb it sounds, Rob? When they're like, hey, should door

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco gives them the best chance to win. Uh

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Speaker 2: really why? Because two years ago he had a magical

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Speaker 2: I just I don't buy that. And then you got

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Speaker 2: you know, be too a mentor to the young guys,

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Speaker 2: For what are you doing with Joe Flacco starting this season?

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Speaker 2: You gotta throw these rookies in there. Let him sinker,

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Speaker 2: you gave up a draft pick for rob This is

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Speaker 2: just more Friggate ineptitude from the Cleveland Frowns. I'm sorry

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Speaker 3: I like that, Uh j Mac. They called me a

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Speaker 3: an early head start on the March for Arch, that

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Speaker 3: I think Arch Manning is going to stay in school

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Speaker 3: It's they did leak it to Chefter first, and then

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Speaker 3: After they published the depth chart, of course, they have practice.

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Speaker 3: in Cleveland, Monday was the first day that Shaduur Sanders

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Speaker 3: one of those Joe Flacco slash Kenny Pickett slash like

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Speaker 3: you've seen that in college, especially where it's like we're

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Speaker 3: not gonna tell you who the starter is gonna say,

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Speaker 3: put it out there, black and white. He is number four,

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Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel. Either they are playing the most high level,

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Speaker 3: four dimensional version of chess that we have seen any

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Speaker 3: the former more than the latter. I think Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 3: that they aren't doing anything this year. The big talking

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Speaker 3: show this week. That was like the dominating topic on

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Speaker 3: most sports talk shows throughout Monday. Would you like to

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Speaker 3: know where starting quarterback Joe Flacco ranks on the QB Tiers.

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Speaker 2: There's no way he was ranked anywhere.

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Speaker 3: He actually was. In fact, two Browns quarterbacks were ranked.

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Speaker 3: First off, let's start with Joe Flacco. He's the starter.

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Speaker 3: He is the guy who's going in. They're even gonna

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Speaker 3: enough tape of Joe Flacca. No, he's their guy. He

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Speaker 3: is ranked as a Tier four quarterback thirty first overall,

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Speaker 3: winning the starting gig there in New Orleans, and Tier

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, as of Tuesday morning here employ two of

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Speaker 3: the four lowest rated quarterbacks in football, and we're led

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Speaker 3: to believe we're having a legitimate battle here. Some of

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Speaker 3: the comments about Joe Flacco again, head and shoulders the

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Speaker 3: best option they have there in Cleveland. The defensive cordiator

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Speaker 3: asks he's still playing. Here's another one. A offensive coach says,

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Speaker 3: Flacco has no regard for ball security, so you don't

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Speaker 3: no way that the Cleveland Browns are going into this

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Speaker 3: and I've said this before, they are jerking us around

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Speaker 3: being bad on purpose because they know that none of

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Speaker 3: these four guys Shador included is their long term answer

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Speaker 3: muddy the waters just enough so that Flacco can start

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Speaker 3: be bad. For four or five games, he gets pulled.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Kenny Pickett gets two or three games. He's bad,

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Speaker 3: he gets pulled. Dylan Gabriel goes in, he's too small,

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Speaker 3: doesn't have the arm talent. He gets pulled. Maybe Shador

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Speaker 3: and next thing you know, they are three and fourteen,

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Speaker 3: staring arch Matting right in the face.

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Speaker 2: That's a hot take, and I don't hate it, but

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Speaker 2: because you mentioned quarterback tiers, I had to look it up.

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Speaker 2: So you said that Flacco was at the very bottom

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Speaker 2: along Kenny Pickett thirty first. Yep, yeah, that doesn't totally

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Speaker 2: surprise me. Um I'm looking here, So I decided, just

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Speaker 2: for fun, let's see here Pickett thirty four, Rattler thirty three,

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Speaker 2: and that's all sounds about right. I think Pennix is

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Speaker 2: go back two years rob, just to see the quarterback tiers.

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Speaker 2: How things have changed?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: So do you want to know the year Tier one?

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Speaker 2: Just two years ago? Literally twenty four months?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'm gonna guess Patrick mahomes correct, Josh Allen correct,

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Speaker 2: But there's two more.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Justin Herbert correct? And because these coaches love

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Speaker 2: Was tenth overall Tier two. Yeah, you're not gonna be

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Speaker 2: Two years so you said mahomes Borough, Alan Herbert, it.

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Speaker 3: Would not have been Rogers because he was hurt. Uh,

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Speaker 3: There's no hay wan to get this.

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Speaker 2: Well, you were wrong two years ago. Aaron Rodgers wasn't

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Speaker 2: wow signed with the Jets. He was number four overall

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's how.

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Speaker 2: Crazy this stuff is. So people are losing their minds.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Now they have him at sixteen. Now, that

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Speaker 2: is total garbage. There's no way he's ahead of Tua none.

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Speaker 2: Are you crazy?

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence?

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Speaker 2: What? He can't even move in the pocket. Honestly, I

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Speaker 2: would take bow Nicks this season over Aaron Rodgers. I

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Speaker 3: Not? Really? But you know what is might be a

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Speaker 3: hotter take? You know that. Would you take bow Nicks

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Speaker 3: Because Patrick Mahomes's numbers are almost like.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, that's just one year though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Patrick Mahomes has been a beam

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Speaker 3: lightly about average for the last two seasons. He has

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Speaker 2: Four agree, I agree, But you can't drop it out

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Speaker 2: He delivers when it matters most. He just clutched, like,

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Speaker 2: I know that's silly. So again, two years ago, Lamar

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Speaker 2: Lawrence has fallen from eighth to eighteen. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: not like he's been that bad. He's been hurt a

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Speaker 2: So these were the biggest risers, Sam, Darnold, Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 2: Richards in disappointment. So it's a mix of young and sorry,

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Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not I listened. I beat this dead

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Speaker 2: horse earlier this summer. There's on no planet? Is Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts a t too? The guy just won the Super

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Speaker 2: I mean he's got great nuggets like this. The Eagles

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Speaker 2: ran sixty eight plays all season, trailing in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Sixty eight all season. So you had how

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Speaker 2: many three playoff games? Right, and then seventeen regular season games,

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Speaker 2: So that's twenty games sixty eight divided by twenty. Is

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: It was an awesome team. Now, obviously the defense was

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Speaker 2: very good, but the offense was freaking excellent. Now, some

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Speaker 2: notes that TA made was second healthiest team in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Saque miss zero games. Starting offensive line missed a total

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Speaker 2: of six games. They were great in one score games.

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Speaker 2: I think that's kind of on the quarterback, is it not?

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Speaker 2: Who gets credit for the one score games? Usually it's

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've actually talked about this at length.

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Speaker 2: It just annoys me that a guy can win the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP. He's gotten to two Super Bowls, the

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Speaker 2: Nation mahomes in one and in the other it was

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Speaker 2: basically toe to toe, and and the disrespect is still there. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: I love him a lot.

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Speaker 2: As zero playoff wins, and he's consistently put above Hurts.

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Speaker 2: And I get it, he's toolsy, but he's got Jim

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Speaker 2: Slater went down, but like I don't know the Herbert

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Speaker 2: But to me, that's just.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's one of those things where, and we've

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Speaker 3: than the NBA, has this thing where it's always about traits.

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Speaker 3: It's never just about who's a good player. It's the measurables.

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Speaker 3: It's the arm, talent, it's the size, it's the elusiveness.

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Speaker 3: And because Jalen Hurts does it in a different way,

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Speaker 3: he continues to get knocked year in a year out.

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Speaker 3: In that teer you mentioned the QB tears. He came

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Speaker 3: in as a Tier two quarterback for the third consecutive season. Okay.

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Speaker 3: In fact, twelve of the fifty voters, which is about

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Speaker 3: a quarter of them, placed him in Tier three. You

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Speaker 3: mentioned his super Bowl acclades, and we talked about on

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Speaker 3: this pod ad nauseum. Okay, in two super Bowl games,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts averages three hundred and thirty three total yards

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Speaker 3: a game on seventy three percent completions, twelve point zero

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Speaker 3: one oh nine passer rating. In his career, he averages

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Speaker 3: three record with a Super Bowl two Super Bowl appearance

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Speaker 3: as many playoff wins six as the rest of the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty QB class combined, Joe Burrow, Jordan Love, Justin

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Speaker 3: The days of the six' five laser statuesque rocket armed

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Speaker 3: quarterback A La Peyton, manning even his arm wasn't really that,

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Speaker 3: Great Tom, Brady Dan, Marino Troy, like that's. Done it's

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Speaker 3: a NEW. Nfl if you look at the four guys

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Speaker 3: who we all agree are the four best, Quarterbacks, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow,

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Speaker 3: jackson they're all unique and in, Fact Lamar, jackson despite

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Speaker 3: now having three first Team All pros and what should

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Speaker 3: have been THREE. MVPs two of them would have been

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Speaker 3: unanimous save for one. Vote was finally selected as A

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Speaker 3: tier one. Quarterback, yeah and it's not because he's not.

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Speaker 3: Great it's not because they have the. Hardware it's because

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Speaker 3: the way he does it flies in the face of

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Speaker 3: everything we thought a good quarterback was supposed to. Be

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Speaker 3: it's Why Jalen hurts continues to be disresp expected over

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Speaker 3: has never won a playoff. GAME i believe he had

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Speaker 3: him and the one that really bothers, Me Matthew, stafford

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Speaker 3: who is older THAN i, am who has a bad

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Speaker 3: as A tier one quarterback because they like the way

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Speaker 3: his arm, looks because he processes, well because he throws

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Speaker 3: the season in gotta have a, GAMES i know that

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Speaker 3: narrative for. HIM i believe that The rams offense average

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Speaker 3: It the defense thankfully gave up about eight and a

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Speaker 3: half points of. Games it didn't. Matter Matthew stafford in

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Speaker 3: the last three games average about one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: viewed as a top flight. Quarterback if that Was Jalen,

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Speaker 3: hurd's we've been talking about him getting. Benched it's just.

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous so it's interesting you Mentioned, herbert and AGAIN i

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Speaker 2: Like herbert a. LOT i totally like he looks the,

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Speaker 2: part big strapping. Dude what's the argument For Jared? GOFF

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Speaker 2: i don't see how if you, Said, jay you can

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Speaker 2: you can Have Jalen, hurts who would Pick? Goff hurts is,

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Speaker 2: i don't know what he has other than you, know

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Speaker 2: sports illustrated swimsuit model of wife and my exact same

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Speaker 2: you Take golf Over. Hurts that to me is. Insane

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Speaker 2: and you KNOW i, again these are old SCHOOL nfl

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Speaker 2: and they don't want to come off of. It i'll be.

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Speaker 2: HONEST i saw a regression from C. J, stroud AND

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Speaker 2: i know everybody likes shiny new So Jane daniels is up.

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Speaker 2: There that's, fine but it just feels goofy to continually disrespect.

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Speaker 2: Hurts i'm Just i'm also a little surprised that this.

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Speaker 2: One did you See Caleb williams checked in at twenty.

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Speaker 2: Three he was supposed to be A they talked about

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Speaker 2: him entering his senior year AT usc as a potential

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Speaker 2: face of THE nfl in five. Years he's currently Behind Bo,

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Speaker 2: YOUNG i mean that is kind of sort of. STAGGERING

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Speaker 2: i don't know who. COULD i don't know who these

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Speaker 2: LIKE i haven't seen. THAT i just, Again i'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna hammer the. POINT i know people didn't like. It

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Speaker 2: WHEN i Used Rob G's Johnny mandel analogy on The,

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Speaker 2: other quick. Things did you see? That, Uh brandon ayuk

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Speaker 2: is not going to be ready until weeks six at

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Speaker 2: maybe at. Best he got hurt in week seven of last.

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Speaker 2: Year i've been, Told Remember Aaron rodgers was, LIKE i

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Speaker 2: could come back from an achilles in four, months you, know

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Speaker 2: down to like six day months for AN acfl maybe,

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Speaker 2: Ten and now we're talking about a year at best

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Speaker 2: i wonder what his rehab has been. Like that is

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Speaker 2: without your your top receiver after Losing Deebo. SAMUEL i

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Speaker 2: robert are you surprised at to say you think because

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Speaker 2: a lot of people myself, included like The niners this,

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Speaker 2: i Think Brock party could could be under heavy duress

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Speaker 2: early in the.

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Speaker 3: Season, Yeah i'll tell you. What we'll get to fantasy

427
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: football in a couple eaks wing back from. Vacation but

428
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: it really Makes christian McCaffrey And George kittle like fly

429
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Speaker 3: up draft boards because IF i use not, Available and

430
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: as far AS i, KNOW i don't even Think Juwan

431
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 3: jennings is practicing right. NOW i think he's still dealing

432
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Speaker 3: with an injury as recently as this, weekend.

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Speaker 2: A quote unquote injury or that's a very good.

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Speaker 3: Guy they're calling it a calf injury as.

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Speaker 2: Well remember he demanded a trade and then all of

436
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Speaker 2: a SUDDEN i got. Injured i'm Not i'm not blasting the,

437
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: guy just that that that actually is the thing that.

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Speaker 3: Happened just, Yeah and you, Know i'm a big fan

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00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: Of Brock So i've always thought, that, hey you Put

440
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: Brock party in any situation and he's shown he can sling.

441
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 3: It and now you're talking about him throwing to what

442
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 3: his number one Is pearsall who got shot last. Season,

443
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: yeah like that's what we're talking about In San. Francisco

444
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: and you know what's funny IS i hate to bring

445
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: it back To Patrick, mahomes But Patrick mahomes gets a

446
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: lot of passes because they, say, hey it's his supporting

447
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: cast is not, great, Right he's really he's he's trying

448
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 3: to make chicken salad out of chicken. Shit and when

449
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: he does it and his numbers aren't, great well because

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00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: he didn't have a good supporting cast Brock party basically

451
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Speaker 3: all of last. Season now it's looked like starting of

452
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 3: this season is going to Have christian, McCaffrey George hittle and.

453
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: Nothing and they're gonna expect him because they are the

454
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Speaker 3: popular pick for popular people to win that. Division and

455
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: if he does or if he, doesn't is he going

456
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: to get a pastor not having his best players, know

457
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: they're gonna, say, well Brock party didn't elevate the rest of. Them, yeah,

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Speaker 3: yeah the way that he's supposed. To AND i will

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Speaker 3: say just inclosing about this topic is every, year basically

460
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Speaker 3: we have a worse the first type of. SITUATION i

461
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 3: think it's like eighty percent of the last twenty, years

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Speaker 3: that's kind of. Happened everybody was picking In San, francisco

463
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: AND i think that is the smart. Bet but IF

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Speaker 3: i you g is out and you Know piersol And John,

465
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: jennings you, know to be, determined if If Freaky pearsol

466
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: is their top receiving option on the, outside it's really

467
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: hard for me to feel good About San, Francisco LIKE

468
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 3: i might have to pivot and take My raiders to

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Speaker 3: be the worst Of it's just A. Tennessee it's just,

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Speaker 3: WELL i, MEAN i don't. KNOW i think even their

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00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 3: own their own coaching staff said that they don't they're

472
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: gonna be good in this, year, right Didn't they ask them, like,

473
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Speaker 3: hey and we're talking about Super? Bowl what's your goal

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Speaker 3: for The Super? Bowl was, like, oh, well you know

475
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: every team has different. Goals it's, like, yeah what step

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Speaker 3: at a?

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Speaker 2: Time, fellas you can't leap to the Super.

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Speaker 3: Bowl but it's like like it should have been The

479
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Speaker 3: niners with The Slam dug and if they're that banged up, Already,

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Speaker 3: like how do you feel good about?

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Speaker 2: IT i don't feel great about. It final story is

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Speaker 2: an interesting.

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Speaker 1: One Rob Fox sports right has the best sports talk

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Speaker 2: Live THE ncaa is currently Investigating oklahoma Quarterback John mattere

488
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: and the reason this is absolutely. Crazy so you, know

489
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: these losers on college football message boards have all the

490
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: time in the, world and for one of, those somebody,

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Speaker 2: decided let me just look Into John Mattere's venmo. HISTORY

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Speaker 2: i GET i. DON'T i tend not to scroll Through

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Speaker 2: venmo and look at, histories BUT i guess somebody looked

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Speaker 2: all the way back in twenty twenty two when he

495
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Speaker 2: was At Washington state and he paid a. Friend it

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Speaker 2: says On Venmo john Paid richard, whoever and in the

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Speaker 2: Tag John, MATTERE i have to assume he was, joking

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00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: wrote sports GAMBLING uclac and it was On november twentieth,

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Speaker 2: there that's right around the date of the rivalry. Game

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Speaker 2: and then he paid him again and it said sportsman

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00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: gambling this time NOT ucla VERUS. Usc, now obviously he

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00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: could have been. Joking he a lot of people joke on.

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00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: There you, know when you pay somebody for, something you

504
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: make a joke about something that if the wife saw,

505
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: it it would look really funny and. Dirty you, know

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00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: Like i'm not gonna say this, stuff but you, guys

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00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: don't come, on guys are. Guys this is a college. Kid,

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00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: now some people are claiming it's about video. Games BUT

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00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: i don't totally know what to do. Here but according

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00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: to multiple, outlets THE ncaa is currently looking into, it

511
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: and even though the screen grabs, exist The oklahoma quarterback

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00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: did scrub his venmo of, this but according To Fox

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00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: Sports College, football THE ncaa has launched an investigation into.

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00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: This now, again we're talking about three ye years Old

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00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: oklahoma on the doorstep of the. SEASON i, Mean, ROB

516
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: i don't even know where to freaking go with this

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00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: because it seems like nonsense sports supports gambling should be.

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00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: Legal but he's a. Player was he playing In Washington? State,

519
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: like there's just so much. Here, listen, MAN i was

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00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: laughing BECAUSE i actually thought, someone you, know you can

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00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: do somebody dirty, online and you can like create fake screen,

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00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: grabs you can create fake video as. AI i thought

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00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: initially this was, fake turns out it's, not and this

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00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: is is just a little. DISAPPOINTED i, Mean, rob did

525
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: you ever gamble in.

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Speaker 3: COLLEGE i, mean, yes the gambled in high.

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00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: School then, again you weren't A.

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00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: NO i was not AN ncaa athlete WHERE i had

529
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: to worry about that kind of thing where it's prohibited

530
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: like this. IS i can't say it's surprising because everybody,

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00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: gambles AND i think, everybody you, know whether it's legal

532
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: at a sports book or with your, buddies like, Hey

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00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: i'll bet you twenty bucks on this, Game like what's

534
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: the big? Deal, Like and then you don't really think

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00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: about who you are where you are in society when

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00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: you consider the fact, that, Hey i'm A division one

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00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: athlete and it says in the bylaws explicitly you cannot

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00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: wager ON ncaba activities of any. Kind So i'm sure this,

539
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: is you, know going to be a teaching moment for this.

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00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: Kid he already scrubbed His venmo account so he can always,

541
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: say like you, mentioned it was a video, game that

542
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: was a.

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00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: PIZZA i was just.

544
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: Joking it was a. Joke nothing like, that, nothing nothing,

545
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: Really but this is another teaching moment for all of

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00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: our young listeners of this. Podcast we've seen this happen

547
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: over and over and over, again where you have old

548
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: tweets from Like Kyle kuzma talking trash About Lebron. James

549
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: you Have Austin, reeves you, KNOW i remember If Austin

550
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: reeves said, that you, Know lebron couldn't Handle kobe at

551
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: all and net to know their. Teammates you got this

552
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: kid and putting his sports bets out, there, like, hey

553
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: once you reach a certain level of, notoriety whether you

554
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: know that is A all area full back in high

555
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: school or if you are A division one quarterback just

556
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: the socials one, Time.

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00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah start. Fresh it totally makes sense to, uh, YEAH i.

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00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: Should you know, What i'm gonna go back and purge

559
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: a bunch of my old. Tweets there's no point in

560
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: having them out. There i'm SURE i said something. Stupid it,

561
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: Happens but, like you, know when a college kid's season

562
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: ripped away from him based on a three year Old

563
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: by the, way what about the loser who's looking Into

564
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: venmo transactions three years ago of college football?

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00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: Players, yeah what kind.

566
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: Of losers doing? That enjoy your, life don't try to

567
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: tear down someone. Else's my. Gosh, anyways that's a wrap for.

568
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: Today have a good one back.

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00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: Tomorrow