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Speaker 1: All right, now back to the business at hand, though, Yes,
Speaker 1: we're about to dive into a past episode of Weird
Speaker 1: House Cinema. This is Night of the were Wolf, a
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one Paul Nashy movie. And if you've been
Speaker 1: listening to me on the show for a while, you
Speaker 1: know I've become something of a Paul Nashy fan. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this one. And if you haven't listened to it,
Speaker 1: or if you haven't listened to it in a while,
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this episode as well. It originally
Speaker 1: published on July fourteenth, twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 1: Hey you, welcome to Weird House Cinema.
Speaker 3: This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. In
Speaker 3: today's movie on Weird House Cinema is the nineteen eighty
Speaker 3: one or maybe nineteen eighty. I saw some dispute about
Speaker 3: that Spanish horror film Night of the Werewolf, also known
Speaker 3: as Return of the Wolfman, also known as Maybe some
Speaker 3: other titles too, directed by Paul Nashi, written by Paul Nashi,
Speaker 3: starring Paul Nashi, The creative trifecta previously accomplished by such
Speaker 3: luminaries as Orson Wells and Edward D. Wood Junior. Now,
Speaker 3: if you have been listening to Weird House for a while,
Speaker 3: you will probably recognize that name. You know that we
Speaker 3: have covered several Paul nashi movies in the past, and
Speaker 3: the one we're talking about today is part of a saga,
Speaker 3: a Paul Nashy saga of a recurring character. It is
Speaker 3: one of his many, many Valdemar movies, and this time
Speaker 3: the character Valdemar returns from beyond the grave to engage
Speaker 3: wolf mode overdrive adjacent to a necro vivified Countess Bathory,
Speaker 3: and by the end of the movie he will either
Speaker 3: do evil or stop or maybe both, but probably not neither.
Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. I mean, this is a you
Speaker 1: know what you're getting into with this film, and you
Speaker 1: know there are a lot a lot of the beats
Speaker 1: are the same compared to other films that Paul Nashey
Speaker 1: did or films unrelated, mostly to Paul Maashey. We've discussed
Speaker 1: already a couple of fun facts. You mentioned that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the he's the director, he's the writer. He's also
Speaker 1: the star. Though I will say he only plays one
Speaker 1: role in this film. Other films he plays multiple roles
Speaker 1: on top of that. But the Blu Rays set that
Speaker 1: I have that this came out of has some great
Speaker 1: notes in it by Nashi scholar Myriklepinsky, and he points
Speaker 1: out that since Nashi was directing as well as acting
Speaker 1: and was wearing heavy were wolf makeup in some of
Speaker 1: the scenes, there were times where he was directing the
Speaker 1: movie in full were wolf makeup, which must have been
Speaker 1: a sight.
Speaker 3: I would love to see set photos of that, like
Speaker 3: is he in the chair with the bullhorn in the
Speaker 3: wolf man makeup?
Speaker 1: One would hope.
Speaker 3: Now we should clarify. I think this comes up whenever
Speaker 3: we talk about a were wolf movie. What were wolf
Speaker 3: morph are we dealing with in this film? Your two
Speaker 3: basic categories are the more canine, long snout werewolf that
Speaker 3: often is paired with a more quadrupedal posture or at
Speaker 3: least a more hunched posture. Or you've on the other hand,
Speaker 3: you've got the more humanoid shaped wolf man, sort of
Speaker 3: the Lawn Cheney junior version that has a human shaped
Speaker 3: head just covered in hair with fangs. In this movie,
Speaker 3: we're dealing with the latter no long snouts to be seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a look that I think a lot
Speaker 1: of films got away from for a while, especially in
Speaker 1: the wake of an American Wolf in London. You know,
Speaker 1: everything got snouty and there's this feeling that, oh, the
Speaker 1: classic wolf man look was just done and we shouldn't
Speaker 1: go back to that. But I don't know that. I
Speaker 1: think we're coming back around to realizing that a classic
Speaker 1: wolf man, if done well, looks amazing. One example of
Speaker 1: this recently is the excellent Werewolf by Night special from Marvel.
Speaker 1: This this is tremendous. It has a werewolf in it,
Speaker 1: and it is a classic wolf man look and it's
Speaker 1: done really well.
Speaker 3: Haven't seen it, so I can't comment.
Speaker 1: It's worth checking out, Yeah, but put it on your
Speaker 1: list for Halloween. It's like, it's less than an hour.
Speaker 1: It's fine.
Speaker 3: But Okay, So, Rob, I know you are much deeper
Speaker 3: in the Paul Nashy canon and the Valdemar verse than
Speaker 3: I am. So can you explain where and how this
Speaker 3: movie fits into the overall Valdemar saga.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is with some caveats. The ninth Cinematic
Speaker 1: Adventure of Colt Valdemir Dninsky. For our part, we previously
Speaker 1: watched the third movie in the saga, nineteen seventies Assignment Terror,
Speaker 1: and we've also watched the unrelated Nashy film Horror Rises
Speaker 1: from the Tomb from seventy two. So Dninsky the character
Speaker 1: first appears in nineteen sixty eight's The Mark of the Wolfman,
Speaker 1: which Nashi wrote, and originally he was just going to
Speaker 1: be the writer on that one, and they were going
Speaker 1: to get Lon Cheney Junior to play the part, but
Speaker 1: Lon Chaney Junior was too sick to travel at that
Speaker 1: point in his life, so Nashi jumped in and acted
Speaker 1: as well. Dninsky's final appearance in a Nashy directed picture
Speaker 1: was nineteen eighty three's The Beast and the Magic Sword,
Speaker 1: the tenth Daniski film, though two more films of other
Speaker 1: lesser directors would also utilize the character with Nashi in
Speaker 1: the role, and nash the only Nashi only wrote one
Speaker 1: of those, still, Knight of the Werewolf, which we're talking
Speaker 1: about here. Eighty or eighty one was the first Doninski
Speaker 1: film in like five years now. An interesting caveat here
Speaker 1: to putting a fine number on the Voldemart Dninski Films
Speaker 1: is that nineteen sixty eight Knights of the wolf Man
Speaker 1: is often referred to as the second Dninski film, but
Speaker 1: it either wasn't actually made or finished, or might not
Speaker 1: have ever existed to begin with. If it did exist,
Speaker 1: it's considered a lost film because even Nashi did not
Speaker 1: see it. Nash alone seemed to insist it that he
Speaker 1: had actually filmed scenes for this in Paris. I think
Speaker 1: the story was that the director died in a car
Speaker 1: crash and the film was never picked up from the
Speaker 1: processing lab and then was eventually probably destroyed. But no
Speaker 1: one has ever seen it, and that's assuming it was
Speaker 1: finished at all, so it's uncertain what's going on there.
Speaker 1: It's also been theorized that perhaps Nash she kind of
Speaker 1: embellished it early in his career when he didn't have
Speaker 1: that many credentials. So I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: where the truth lies on that.
Speaker 3: Oh, Like I have a girlfriend, but she lives in Canada.
Speaker 3: Like I already made a movie but it was never released.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I made a wear We'll film a second wearer
Speaker 1: of film, but it was in Paris, And I don't know.
Speaker 1: They haven't done anything with the footage, which you know,
Speaker 1: I guess was the safe there was no IMDb back
Speaker 1: in those days.
Speaker 3: Well, interesting that he would go on to make a
Speaker 3: movie of the same name later on that's well, almost
Speaker 3: exactly the same name, but with singular instead of plural
Speaker 3: Night versus Knights.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, I haven't seen all of the Dninsky films.
Speaker 1: I've only seen really a handful of these, but it's
Speaker 1: important to note that all of them are essentially stand alone.
Speaker 1: You don't have to watch these in order. Each one
Speaker 1: seems to reinvent Dninsky's origin story to fit the plot
Speaker 1: as needed. So sometimes his origin is very modern. Other
Speaker 1: times his origin is, in the case of this film,
Speaker 1: is situated in the past. For instance, the previous film
Speaker 1: to this one nineteen seventy five is The were Wolf
Speaker 1: and the Yetti, which I've seen. It's a pretty fun one,
Speaker 1: but Dninsky transforms into a were wolf in that one
Speaker 1: because a pair of Tibetan were wolf women capture him
Speaker 1: while he's on an excursion in Tibet.
Speaker 3: So you're saying they're all stand alone, and in many
Speaker 3: ways they sort of recapitulate some of the same plot
Speaker 3: elements and and reimagine the origin each time. So it
Speaker 3: might be more apt to compare Valdemar Doninsky to a
Speaker 3: character like Dracula that is in many movies but gets
Speaker 3: but most of those movies stand alone, as opposed to
Speaker 3: thinking of it as a continuity or a cannon.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Dracula of Frankenstein. All those characters were very much
Speaker 1: characters that inspired Paul Nashy, and therefore that they're part
Speaker 1: of the DNA of this character that he created.
Speaker 3: So the two Dninsky movies we've seen, it's interesting because
Speaker 3: the Dninsky elements in them have a lot in common,
Speaker 3: but the movies overall are very different. Assignment Terror was
Speaker 3: a I call it like a sort of a gonzo
Speaker 3: mashup of the classic universal monsters. The premise was that
Speaker 3: aliens want to conquer Earth, and they do so by
Speaker 3: rounding up Frankenstein, Dracula, Doninsky is a wolf man I
Speaker 3: think a mummy too, and some other critters, and they're like,
Speaker 3: we're going to use these monsters to attack earthlings and
Speaker 3: get them. I don't know, I guess to surrender to us.
Speaker 3: I remember the vibe of that movie was a very wild,
Speaker 3: chaotic and science fiction, though the Dninsky element in particular
Speaker 3: felt almost a little out of place. It was more
Speaker 3: of this kind of like tragic gothic horror love story
Speaker 3: that was just one little wedge of that whole pie.
Speaker 3: You could tell me if you disagree with my characterization
Speaker 3: in a second, but I'm gonna say this movie is
Speaker 3: very different than Assignment Terror in that it feels more
Speaker 3: like they were trying to go for sort of like
Speaker 3: what some of the Hammer horror movies of the seventies were,
Speaker 3: like kind of a sexy escapade in the Carpathian Mountains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I agree with that. Assignment Terror also
Speaker 1: came out at a time where it's like Spanish cinema
Speaker 1: wasn't really ready to fully embrace the horror. But then
Speaker 1: horror is embraced throughout the nineteen seventies, and at this
Speaker 1: point Paul nashe's setting out to make a just a
Speaker 1: gothic horror film. You don't have to have a spy
Speaker 1: story in there.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there were spies too, weren't there.
Speaker 1: There was a boring spy story and Assignment Terror that yeah,
Speaker 1: amid all the monsters, you only remember the monsters. Those
Speaker 1: were the best scenes.
Speaker 3: I remember it being funny that the that the Frankenstein
Speaker 3: monster was like the really bad monster. Like, of all
Speaker 3: you could sort of rank the monsters in terms of
Speaker 3: morality in that movie, and frank was one of the worst.
Speaker 3: He was like the sort of the enforcer droid who
Speaker 3: was doing all the hits for the bad aliens, which
Speaker 3: seemed like a strange thing because the Frankenstein character from
Speaker 3: the novel is so conflicted and tragic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you had. You ultimately had a good tear
Speaker 1: down battle between the were wolf and the Frankenstein monsters,
Speaker 1: so it is worth it, all right. Well, the elevator
Speaker 1: pitch on this one is pretty simple. It's werewolf versus vampire.
Speaker 1: More specifically, it's Dninsky versus Bathory.
Speaker 3: So it's Elizabeth Bathory as a vampire.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's hear probably not all of the trailer audio,
Speaker 1: but let's hear just a little bit of that trailer audio.
Speaker 1: Estimata young pretend if your accomdition a bad to do
Speaker 1: you a us.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Well, if you're wondering where you can watch this film,
Speaker 1: you can stream it a few different ways. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: available under the title The Craving. That was one of
Speaker 1: its American release titles. Though the best streaming option is
Speaker 1: probably shout Factory TV, since Shout Factory also put this
Speaker 1: film out on a glorious blue ray set part of
Speaker 1: their excellent Paul Nashi collection. Part one and two are out.
Speaker 1: I own both of them. I hope we're getting a
Speaker 1: part three as well. There's plenty more stuff for them
Speaker 1: to throw on a disk. This particular set Part one
Speaker 1: collects Knight of the Werewolf, Vengeance of the Zombies, Horror
Speaker 1: Rises from the Tomb, which is another favorite of mine,
Speaker 1: Blue Eyes of the Broken Doll, and Human Beasts. All right, well,
Speaker 1: let's get into the cast here. Starting at the top, obviously,
Speaker 1: we have Paul Nashi, who's playing Valdemar Doninski in this.
Speaker 1: He also wrote it, he directed it. He lived nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty four through two thousand and nine. The Spanish horror
Speaker 1: icon The Lawncha Jr. Of Madrid. As a young man,
Speaker 1: he grew upon a cinematic diet of universal monster pictures,
Speaker 1: and after a brief foray into architecture school, he got
Speaker 1: into weightlifting and then into acting, writing, and eventually directing.
Speaker 1: He ranked up more than one hundred acting credits, fifty
Speaker 1: two writing credits, twenty three directing credits. Not all of
Speaker 1: his work is horror. He appeared in and worked on crime, comedy,
Speaker 1: war western movies as well, but it's his horror films
Speaker 1: that continue to resonate and have earned him recognition internationally.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to dissect in a Nashi film and
Speaker 1: in a Nashi performance. You know, there are these themes
Speaker 1: of tragic gothic melodrama, often laid on really thick, and
Speaker 1: this courses through his films. But at least in my opinion,
Speaker 1: amid the budget and time constraints and the elements of
Speaker 1: exploitation cinema, they're all over these pictures. I feel like
Speaker 1: Paul Nashey's passion shines through, especially in his monsters and
Speaker 1: his outsider characters, which is one of the prime reasons
Speaker 1: I think his films continue to resonate. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: just you know, fantastic monstrous and supernatural outsider characters that
Speaker 1: interested in interest Nashi as well. I was reading about this.
Speaker 1: I didn't know about this until a research for this picture,
Speaker 1: but apparently after meeting a trans woman at a Madrid
Speaker 1: gay club, he was inspired to write and then also
Speaker 1: acted in a supporting role in a film that would
Speaker 1: Become nineteen seventy seven's Al Transsexual, which I've not seen,
Speaker 1: but it's apparently a really compassionate and shockingly non exploitive picture.
Speaker 1: It's a cabaret romance drama with a lot of music
Speaker 1: in it, intercut with documentary testimonials from a Spanish trans
Speaker 1: woman about transidentity. I've read that the story itself isn't
Speaker 1: the best, but the film serves as kind of a
Speaker 1: time capsule for the Madrid LGBTQ club scene of Madrid
Speaker 1: at the time. Oh interesting, But in general, like Nashi
Speaker 1: could really bust out these scripts. I was reading that
Speaker 1: like Harror Rises from the Tomb, he wrote in like
Speaker 1: a day and a half, like that was his deadline
Speaker 1: to get a script in and he's like, thank goodness
Speaker 1: for amphetamines, because I got it done. But like in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two alone, he wrote and starred in seven movies,
Speaker 1: and then he eventually started directing as well in seventy
Speaker 1: six with the film Inquisition.
Speaker 3: His seventy two sounds kind of like Roger Corman's nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty seven or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, prime year.
Speaker 3: Well, as an actor, there is always something I do
Speaker 3: enjoy about Paul Nashy, But in this movie in particular,
Speaker 3: I noticed he's kind of he's a one track lover
Speaker 3: down a two way lane. He brings a lot of
Speaker 3: passion of the wolf. Yes, But also I did want
Speaker 3: to note that Rachel watching part of the movie over
Speaker 3: my shoulder here. It was during one of the brooding
Speaker 3: human mode scenes. She was like, is this a Matt
Speaker 3: Berry character? And I had to say, ooh, yes, a
Speaker 3: little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's pretty much the case. I could see
Speaker 1: this kind of character fitting in really well on Dark Place.
Speaker 1: There's a certain over seriousness to everything.
Speaker 3: But I find it interesting that it seems like he's
Speaker 3: doing all these different things, but he's always trying to
Speaker 3: write a tragic, supernatural love story and then in the
Speaker 3: end he always gets like a stake or a dagger
Speaker 3: to the heart and that's the end of it, but
Speaker 3: in a kind of like bittersweet resolution of the curse.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's actually a wonderful quote from Paul Nashi in
Speaker 1: the booklet that comes with the Paul Nashi Collection, Volume one.
Speaker 1: He said of this film quote, it contains all the
Speaker 1: coordinates of my own life fitting together like the pieces
Speaker 1: of a jigsaw. Puzzle, the claustrophobic castle, the gothic tombs,
Speaker 1: the ill fated love affair, the menace of the undead,
Speaker 1: the ostracism of someone who is despised for being different,
Speaker 1: and the all pervading shadow of death. All these elements
Speaker 1: go to make up my personality and my work. So
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing. It's like these like He's However,
Speaker 1: it comes together in Paul Nashy's head and then comes
Speaker 1: out in his work like it's personal for him. You know,
Speaker 1: they're cranking these pictures out, you know it's about you know,
Speaker 1: their limited budget, limited time, but for him it's still
Speaker 1: personal when it comes to characters like Voldemar Doninsky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So to maybe revise a bit the comparison to
Speaker 3: Hammer horror, like that he's sort of trying to make
Speaker 3: something along the lines of those like lusty seventies Hammer films.
Speaker 3: It's kind of in that mode, but it is at
Speaker 3: the same time a little bit less professional, Like it's
Speaker 3: a little bit sloppier, but it's also far more like
Speaker 3: of a passion project. You can tell it's less of
Speaker 3: a less of a business product and more of like
Speaker 3: this guy is pouring his heart and soul in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was also worth It's worth pointing out
Speaker 1: this was at a time where the horror world in
Speaker 1: general was kind of moving on into Lasher territory, like
Speaker 1: Gothic horror wasn't really like at the forefront anymore. All Right,
Speaker 1: So that's Paul Nashey, that's our werewolf. But we also
Speaker 1: need our vampire. We need our Countess Elizabeth Bathory. And
Speaker 1: she is played in this film by Julius Sally. Now
Speaker 1: her dates run now, I couldn't find any birthdate for her.
Speaker 1: I think she's still around. She's retired at this point.
Speaker 1: But she is a Spanish ballerina turned actor and producer
Speaker 1: that was active from nineteen seventy two through nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 1: She got her acting start in the nineteen seventy three
Speaker 1: war movie La Gorilla starring Francisco Rebaal. He was in
Speaker 1: that three D movie we watched. He played.
Speaker 3: Treasure of the Four Crowns.
Speaker 1: Is that for this The Four Crowns? Yes? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was the guy who shows up painted blue. He's
Speaker 1: the strong man with the heart problems.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, our tragic hulk. Yes.
Speaker 1: She only had a big part in that, and she
Speaker 1: was a lit credited in that is Lepoca, which apparently
Speaker 1: loosely translates to the white Girl. She's also credited as
Speaker 1: Lopoka on her next small role in Armando dios Ario's
Speaker 1: Demon witch Child from seventy five, and she worked with
Speaker 1: that director again on his other film released in seventy five,
Speaker 1: Night of the Seagulls. That's his fourth and final Blind
Speaker 1: Dead movie. We watched one of the blind Dead movies
Speaker 1: previously on Weird House. But then in seventy six, she
Speaker 1: had a supporting role in Leon Kolimowski's The People Who
Speaker 1: Owned the Dark, which featured Paul Nashy in a very
Speaker 1: small role. I believe they met at a cast party
Speaker 1: for this film, and afterwards the two would work together
Speaker 1: on thirteen films, with Sally serving as producer on six
Speaker 1: of those. Apparently, while traveling in Japan for ballet, she
Speaker 1: made connections with Japanese film producers and these connections would
Speaker 1: prove vital for various productions that they would work on together.
Speaker 1: So if Paul Nashy is the dark Count of Spanish horror,
Speaker 1: then I think Julia Sally may well be considered the
Speaker 1: dark countess. Their films together include seventy sevens So multiple
Speaker 1: films in seventy seven, Inquisition Death of a Delinquent and
Speaker 1: Commando Chiki Death of a President in seventy eight, The
Speaker 1: Frenchman's Garden seventy nine, Madrid Al Desnudo nineteen eighties, The
Speaker 1: Beast Carnival slash Human Beasts, as well as a movie
Speaker 1: called The Cantabrians nineteen eighty one s Night of the Werewolf.
Speaker 1: Of course, eighty three is The Beast and the Magic Sore.
Speaker 1: That's a Dninski film set in Japan with Japanese actors.
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty four is the Last Kamikazi, nineteen eighty four's
Speaker 1: Miamiko El Vaga Bundo This is a Paul nashi written
Speaker 1: and directed family movie, and then nineteen eighty five's Operation Mantis,
Speaker 1: apparently a disastrous film that nobody liked and did not
Speaker 1: make any money. But it's a really wacky spy comedy
Speaker 1: that has been compared to like, you know, wacky on
Speaker 1: like The Naked Gun kind of level not work. And
Speaker 1: this was their final collaboration in her final film project.
Speaker 3: I did not know Paul Nashy had made a family film.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of curious to see what that is, Like.
Speaker 1: I know, like I say, we know him best certainly
Speaker 1: outside of outside of his time period and outside of
Speaker 1: Spain for these horror films, but he made and or
Speaker 1: was involved in various genres.
Speaker 3: Like it's hard for me to imagine him making a
Speaker 3: film that does not end with the silver dagger in
Speaker 3: the heart.
Speaker 1: Right or some sort of blood coming out of his
Speaker 1: mouth at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But as for Julius Sally, I love her in this Countess.
Speaker 1: Bathory is a frequent subject in horror movies, especially more
Speaker 1: sort of erotically aligned horror projects, because it's at base level,
Speaker 1: it's an excuse to bathe the woman in blood, or
Speaker 1: have a woman in a bathtub full of blood, or
Speaker 1: have someone hanging over a bathtub with blood. And it's
Speaker 1: certainly possible, you know that in this picture too, Like
Speaker 1: that could be it, That could be the sole reason
Speaker 1: and for having her in the movie. But I think
Speaker 1: Sally gives this character like a great physical presence. You know,
Speaker 1: she's a beautiful actor, certainly, but she has these like
Speaker 1: really piercing eyes, this kind of like smoldering intensity, and
Speaker 1: her costuming is also very on point, helping her to
Speaker 1: further mirror illustrations of the historic Bathory, who she already
Speaker 1: kind of resembles. And it also kind of helps give
Speaker 1: her this lean or ravenous energy that makes her feel
Speaker 1: like this pale, deathly hunger burning within the folds of
Speaker 1: her dark garments.
Speaker 3: I think that's well said. Yes, she is absolutely like
Speaker 3: pulsing with Bathorian energy in this film. It's a very
Speaker 3: convincing performance. No, I thought maybe we should mention here,
Speaker 3: of course, the fact that she is playing a real
Speaker 3: historical figure. That's kind of a strange twist on this.
Speaker 3: I don't know a lot about Elizabeth Bathory, so I
Speaker 3: can't do a full history lesson here, but just in
Speaker 3: case you don't know, this is a real historical figure,
Speaker 3: a Hungarian countess who lived from fifty sixty to sixteen fourteen,
Speaker 3: and she was accused, tried, and convicted of like an
Speaker 3: unseene number of murders hundreds. So she is often identified
Speaker 3: as one of the most prolific serial killers in history.
Speaker 3: And though I don't have the requisite historical knowledge to
Speaker 3: judge on this issue, I think it's worth flagging that
Speaker 3: I have read some modern writers have doubts about whether
Speaker 3: she was actually guilty or whether she was the target
Speaker 3: of some kind of I don't know, persecution or witch hunt.
Speaker 3: At the very least, it seems that a lot, if
Speaker 3: not all, of the evidence used against her was either
Speaker 3: hearsay or confessions extracted under torture, neither of which would
Speaker 3: be considered a legitimate form of evidence in any good
Speaker 3: judicial proceeding today. But it also looks like some people
Speaker 3: think there might have been solid physical evidence as well.
Speaker 3: I don't know, so I didn't have time to look
Speaker 3: deeply into this question for today's Weird House, but if
Speaker 3: you want somebody exploring this in more depth, I am
Speaker 3: almost certain that our colleagues Holly and Tracy at Stuff
Speaker 3: you missed in history class have one or more good
Speaker 3: episodes on this.
Speaker 1: They might even have one on Polish count Voldemono Doninsky.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that as well.
Speaker 3: Wait, I don't know if you're pulling my leg.
Speaker 1: I think this is a character right, Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but no, this is all a good point, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bathory is based on a historic figure, and yeah, my
Speaker 1: understanding as well is that there's legitimate reason to doubt
Speaker 1: that she actually did all of these things. Maybe some
Speaker 1: of these things. Who knows, but certainly there were those
Speaker 1: that benefited politically from these accusations being leveled at her. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm going to just go ahead and say that she's
Speaker 1: she did not become a vampire. I think we can
Speaker 1: go ahead and put that to rest.
Speaker 3: See, you just reveal your closed mind in this.
Speaker 1: All right? Well, we got some some more actors to
Speaker 1: to to run through. Here we have Erica. Erica is
Speaker 1: one of the would be witches in this film. She's
Speaker 1: the head would be witch, played by Sylvia Aguilar, dates unknown,
Speaker 1: leader of three college friends who aspire to have satanic
Speaker 1: powers and become masters over life and death. She's the
Speaker 1: most devoted to the three, and, as we quickly see,
Speaker 1: is ruthless in her pursuit of dark powers. She'd previously
Speaker 1: worked with Nashy on his seventy nine film The Traveler,
Speaker 1: in which nash plays the devil, and the same year
Speaker 1: she had a small part in Jaguar Lives, an action
Speaker 1: movie starring kickboxer Joe Lewis, Christopher Lee, Donald, pleasants, Barbara
Speaker 1: Bach and John Houston, and she was also in various
Speaker 1: Spanish b movies.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if I would agree with your
Speaker 3: characterization of these three friends all wanting to have satanic powers.
Speaker 3: Erica clearly wants to have satanic powers, but the other two,
Speaker 3: especially what's her name, Karen, she is protesting that she's
Speaker 3: just a scientist. Now, what exactly field of science is
Speaker 3: she studying? I think we can explore that later. That
Speaker 3: is a rather strange question as approached by the movie.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to say mixed motivations in this group
Speaker 3: of three friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of reminds me of a Piranha mandar,
Speaker 1: where one person's quest to end a deadly multi generational
Speaker 1: curse is another person's vacation. Same thing here, one person's
Speaker 1: quest to resurrect a dead vampire queen and an acquire
Speaker 1: dark powers. It's just another person's excuse to get out
Speaker 1: of room for a few days.
Speaker 3: Right, So Erica wants to become the queen of Hell,
Speaker 3: Karen just wants to do science about raising the dead.
Speaker 1: And Karen is played by Azosina Hernandez, who lived nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty through twenty nineteen. Yeah, I think I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think she's a good, good girl who falls in
Speaker 1: with a bad crowd of ultimately aspiring satanic witch is.
Speaker 1: She's also our romantic female lead. Hernandez acted in various
Speaker 1: Spanish sex comedies and horror films, including Nashi's nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: film The Beast Carnival aka Human Beasts.
Speaker 3: So this is our character who Yeah, as you say,
Speaker 3: she falls into a tragic, doomed love story with Valdemar,
Speaker 3: except they left out the love story. Did you notice that,
Speaker 3: It's like it got cut from the film, the whole
Speaker 3: thing with them falling in love.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you almost don't need it, just like
Speaker 1: trust this it happened. I mean it's spawl nashy.
Speaker 3: I mean, I meit that literally, like it feels like
Speaker 3: a scene got cut.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There are a number of places, like
Speaker 1: you point out, where it feels like, wait, who are
Speaker 1: these characters? Why are they here? It seems like there
Speaker 1: should be some connective material.
Speaker 3: And I did see. I didn't have time to watch it,
Speaker 3: but on the DVD there was there was something about
Speaker 3: deleted scenes, and I was like, oh, okay, yeah, that
Speaker 3: would make sense all right now.
Speaker 1: The remaining of the three friends is Barbara. Barbara is
Speaker 1: played by Pilar i'll Cone born nineteen fifty two. This
Speaker 1: was her debut, but she went on to play other
Speaker 1: are often uncredited roles. Two notable uncredited roles in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty two, she's a victim in the Spanish horror movie Pieces,
Speaker 1: and she plays one of Fulsa Doom's slave girls in
Speaker 1: Conan the Barbarian. There's an English language interview with her
Speaker 1: at the Conan Completest website where she talks about the
Speaker 1: shoot and identifies which extra she is. She says, quote,
Speaker 1: if you pay attention, I stand out from the other girls.
Speaker 1: I'm first seen topless with some sort of helmet on
Speaker 1: my head, looking kind of stoned drugged. Then I rise
Speaker 1: to go towards Conan, who wounds me with his sword
Speaker 1: at belly level, killing me on the spot.
Speaker 3: Okay, she knows how to sell her role.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right. There's another character that's important to
Speaker 1: the plot, and that's Merkeaa. She is a scarred woman.
Speaker 1: We find out she has a tragic backstory involving accusations
Speaker 1: of witchcraft. Played by Beatrice el Rita dates unknown as well,
Speaker 1: Spanish actor of the seven and eighties who worked as
Speaker 1: a costume designer and stylist on Spanish films in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Her other films include nineteen seventy one's necro Fagus, which
Speaker 1: I've not seen but has bloodsucking lizard men in it.
Speaker 1: Seventy two is called the Vampire in nineteen eighty six's
Speaker 1: Blood Hunt. All right, this is a bit part, but
Speaker 1: a familiar face shows up as Sando the Bandit. It's
Speaker 1: Lewis Barbou, who lived nineteen twenty seven three two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, familiar face in Spanish cinema of this time period.
Speaker 1: Former circus performer turned actor with a knack for heavies
Speaker 1: and villains. You might remember him from or from Amando
Speaker 1: Dia Sorio's Return of the Blind Dead, which we talked about,
Speaker 1: as well as the Laurelized Grasp, which we also talked
Speaker 1: about on Weird House. He played a major role in
Speaker 1: that one. In this one, he's just a bit parts.
Speaker 3: He's like a nasty bandit who attacks nasty Rose.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's got I mean, like I say, it's
Speaker 1: that classic heavy face, all right. The makeup on this
Speaker 1: one was Angel Lewis di Diego, responsible for the werewolf
Speaker 1: makeup in particular, which I think is pretty top notch.
Speaker 1: In this film. I thought the werewolf make up look good.
Speaker 1: I think they had a higher budget on this one
Speaker 1: than some previous Doninski films. And then Antonio Molina has
Speaker 1: effects credit. This is a familiar name from Spanish productions
Speaker 1: the special effects on them from the mid sixties through today.
Speaker 1: Like he's still involved in pictures that often big Western
Speaker 1: pictures that are shooting in Spain. All right, And finally
Speaker 1: note on the music here. The music credit on this
Speaker 1: film is just the cam Espana Library, but it pulls
Speaker 1: in some awesome tracks. So it pulls in tracks from
Speaker 1: other movies. It doesn't have its own original score. The
Speaker 1: opening track is the most notable example. It is an
Speaker 1: exuberant Italio disco track that I personally first heard in
Speaker 1: a DJ mix by DJ Boba Fat for the Death
Speaker 1: Waltz record Company several years back, and I didn't know
Speaker 1: what it was for the longest. I just knew that
Speaker 1: I liked it, and it pops up early in this movie.
Speaker 1: It's a splendid track titled too Risky a Day for
Speaker 1: a Regatta. Stelvio Capriana aka Viastell, who lived nineteen thirty
Speaker 1: seven through twenty eighteen, an Italian composer behind the scores
Speaker 1: of such movies as nineteen seventy one's Bay of Blood,
Speaker 1: eighty two's Pieces Piranha to the Spawning, plus a load
Speaker 1: of other B movies. This track is from his score
Speaker 1: for the nineteen seventy seven Jaws ripoff Tentacles, which I
Speaker 1: believe may have also recycled some elements from an earlier
Speaker 1: score he did. Tentacles benefited from a solid cast John Houston,
Speaker 1: Shelley Winters, Bo Hopkins, and Henry Fonda, and it seems
Speaker 1: to have made money, but it does not have a
Speaker 1: reputation for being good. Even Michael Weldon's main comment about
Speaker 1: it is just about how stupendously boring the octopus scenes are.
Speaker 3: I was looking up stills from this because I found,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, there's a seventy seven Jaws rip off
Speaker 3: about an octopus called the Tentacles or in Italian Tentacoli,
Speaker 3: and I haven't seen this, so I'm like, oh, I've
Speaker 3: got to see it. I'm looking at stills and they're
Speaker 3: just all close ups of people's faces under blaring direct sunlight,
Speaker 3: so it's like they had not discovered Magic Hour yet.
Speaker 3: And I was like, where's the where's the octopus, where's
Speaker 3: the speculative elopment. It just it did not look appealing.
Speaker 1: At some point, we need to do a proper Jobs ripoff.
Speaker 1: There's so many, so there's so many of them, there's
Speaker 1: got to be one that hits the sweet spot, you know.
Speaker 3: I have watched a lot of bad Shark movies in
Speaker 3: my life, but it's strange. I find a lot of
Speaker 3: the early Jaws ripoffs, like the ones that came directly
Speaker 3: in its wake and were usually about some other type
Speaker 3: of animal but followed the same plot arc as Jaws,
Speaker 3: A lot of those are just like not very fun
Speaker 3: for some reason.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: the problems about a cash grab, right, Sometimes that really
Speaker 1: is all it is. Sometimes there's nobody's personal vision wrapped
Speaker 1: up in the project. One more note on the music here.
Speaker 1: In the Blu Ray material, Lipinski writes that Neo Morriconi
Speaker 1: was originally promoted as being the guy doing the score
Speaker 1: before the film was released, but obviously that didn't come
Speaker 1: to pass. Still, they apparently use some Morricone tracks sprinkled
Speaker 1: throughout the film. There's another Capriani track in there, and
Speaker 1: also it features some of the work of Carlo Rusticelli,
Speaker 1: who scored Mario Baba's nineteen sixty four film Blood and
Speaker 1: Black Lace.
Speaker 3: Well, too Risky. A Day for Regatta is an excellent track.
Speaker 3: It's kind of a yeah, I guess at Tello disco
Speaker 3: would be the correct term. I was thinking of it
Speaker 3: as a funk rock track, like euro funk rock. It
Speaker 3: has this great walk down bassline, but it has harpsichord
Speaker 3: music just jingling in the background, while it's sort of
Speaker 3: rock electric rock instruments in the front.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it, Sayceman, all right, I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. Well, now that we're all revved up, let's
Speaker 1: get into the plot of Night of the Werewolf.
Speaker 3: All right, we get a title. It says Hungary XVII century.
Speaker 3: I guess that's sixteenth century, and an establishing shot of
Speaker 3: a stone castle on a hillside, and there are soldiers
Speaker 3: with long pole axes and red cross tunics walking alongside
Speaker 3: an elegant woman in a wine colored dress as she
Speaker 3: passes through the castle gates. And they're marching with her
Speaker 3: as if escorting a prisoner. But could this beautiful and
Speaker 3: regal lady really be in such a position? Is she
Speaker 3: a prisoner? Well, they pass by an ominous scene. There
Speaker 3: is a muscled man in a red executioner's hood and
Speaker 3: a crowd of onlookers. A bearded man on a scaffold
Speaker 3: lashed to an X shaped cross. Wait a minute, that
Speaker 3: bearded man, he looks familiar. We'll come back to him.
Speaker 3: In the foreground, there is a podium facing a row
Speaker 3: of seated nobles and judges. And then the soldiers march
Speaker 3: the woman up to the podium and she takes her place.
Speaker 3: And there's like a steward who unrolls a scroll and
Speaker 3: begins to read. To the crowd. He says, Countess Elizabeth
Speaker 3: Bathory Nadasdi. And then of course, people who know they're
Speaker 3: morbid history, they hear that name, they go, ah, Elizabeth Bathory.
Speaker 3: Now they understand why she's being held Prisoner Stewart says.
Speaker 3: This high court presided by the Supreme Judge of the Realm,
Speaker 3: Lord Theodosius de Zulo, and the Noble Governor, Georgy Thurzo.
Speaker 3: And here we get a cutaway to these guys, and
Speaker 3: as soon as we get close ups on the nobleman,
Speaker 3: I get the feeling like these old perverts are way
Speaker 3: too excited about the prospect of punishing this woman.
Speaker 1: And I can't help but feel like that. We're supposed
Speaker 1: to feel that to some extent. You know, even though
Speaker 1: Bathory is going to be set up is the main
Speaker 1: villain of the piece, it's still, you know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have that sort of built in sympathy for the outsider
Speaker 1: and the persecuted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, so they say so the stewart says that
Speaker 3: it finds you guilty of the execrable crimes of witchcraft, vamporism,
Speaker 3: and pacts with the devil. I'm like, are those the crimes?
Speaker 3: Is murder not good enough anymore?
Speaker 1: That's like a lower court in these days.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hence you are to be sentenced to be immured
Speaker 3: in your chambers and to stay there forever until the
Speaker 3: hour of your death. Your servants named some servants will
Speaker 3: be tortured and burned at the stake. That's what he says.
Speaker 3: And I was like, is that how they would say
Speaker 3: it even in the sixteenth century, like they will be tortured.
Speaker 3: I think there would be more euphemistic somehow.
Speaker 1: Now, quick quick question, did you do the dub or
Speaker 1: the subtitles on.
Speaker 3: These the subtitles?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I did the subtitles as well. That is
Speaker 1: never a problem with doing a dub on a Nashi film,
Speaker 1: because it's my understanding that Nashi is almost always dubbed anyway,
Speaker 1: even if you're listening to it in the original language. Okay,
Speaker 1: but continue the sentence.
Speaker 3: Continued, Okay, Okay, it goes on. He names a bunch
Speaker 3: of other co conspirators. Your cousin Moses Otvos will be hanged,
Speaker 3: and the rest of your criminal accomplices Darvula, Barsony and
Speaker 3: Torco will be beheaded. And then oh, then Bathory herself.
Speaker 3: She has some things to say in a witchy whisper.
Speaker 3: As the camera slowly zooms in on her face. She says,
Speaker 3: progeny of bastards, I will return, I will rise from
Speaker 3: my ashes, and your world will turn into hell.
Speaker 1: We had, of course, a similar scene in Perana Mandir
Speaker 1: as well, and also in a horror Rises from the Tomb.
Speaker 1: You'd think that if you're if you're, if you're trying
Speaker 1: and executing warlocks and witches, you need to stop giving
Speaker 1: them this chance to publicly curse everybody. It's just gonna
Speaker 1: bite you in the butt.
Speaker 3: It always does, and I always think they can beat it.
Speaker 3: They're like, look, if we bury them in like two
Speaker 3: separate places. There is no way people will ever come
Speaker 3: along later and reunite their corpses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or in this case, they're like, we grounded her
Speaker 1: for life, Like she's not going to be a problem anymore,
Speaker 1: trust me, she's not allowed to come out of her ring.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the creepy nobles are whispering to themselves. They're like,
Speaker 3: that woman is a monster. She practiced cannibalism, drank blood,
Speaker 3: and sold her soul to the devil. But I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: wasn't that already established in the charges they just heard.
Speaker 3: I guess the cannibalism is new information, but they say
Speaker 3: that thousands were murdered. Ah, but here's something new. One
Speaker 3: of the nobles then points to the guy tied to
Speaker 3: the X shaped cross, and what do you know, that
Speaker 3: looks a lot like Paul Nashy. That is Paul Nashy.
Speaker 3: But he is very bummed out. He is just in
Speaker 3: a bad place in the scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not just that he's gonna be executed,
Speaker 1: but like his heart has been broken. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, as a funny note, I did his tunic has
Speaker 3: a design on it that'll play into the plot later on,
Speaker 3: And it was reminding me of something I couldn't put
Speaker 3: my finger on. And then when I finally realized what
Speaker 3: it was, it was hilarious because it reminded me of
Speaker 3: the Major League Baseball logo. It's like that it was
Speaker 3: just like a diagonal slash with like the blue and
Speaker 3: the red.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm glad you pointed this out, because when I
Speaker 1: was watching it, I was like, something feels off. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but I don't like something
Speaker 1: about this coat of arms, even though like clearly it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be some sort of coat of arms that
Speaker 1: I guess it's the Dninsky coat of arms. And you know,
Speaker 1: I guess the color scheme matches up with some of
Speaker 1: the Polish and Hungarian coat of arms that you see.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it now that you pointed out, Yeah, major.
Speaker 3: League Bithball, I think his costume deserved a better coat
Speaker 3: of arms. Yeah, like maybe they could have just done
Speaker 3: it like black and red or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, so the nobles say that you know him,
Speaker 3: that's Valdemar Doninski. He's a Polish noble and he has
Speaker 3: served her faithfully, which probably means he's done a lot
Speaker 3: of bad stuff. But one of them says, you know,
Speaker 3: he carries the pentagon sign on his chest, and I
Speaker 3: was thinking at first that they were referring to the
Speaker 3: baseball symbol, but no, I think they're talking about how
Speaker 3: he has like a scar on his chest in the
Speaker 3: shape of a pentagon, like the polygon.
Speaker 1: Now I don't remember if they actually discussed this much,
Speaker 1: but we see it later, and my understanding was that, like,
Speaker 1: this is the mark that Bathory gave him and cursed
Speaker 1: with lecanthropy and so and made him of course your servant.
Speaker 3: I think that's right. So the nobles say she dominated
Speaker 3: him with her satanic trickery and used him in her
Speaker 3: evil revenges. So he's been convicted as well. The steward
Speaker 3: is reading out the charges against him, says, quote, it
Speaker 3: is proved that in full moon and turned into a
Speaker 3: gigantic wolf, you devoured hundreds of innocent souls. Thus your
Speaker 3: face will be covered with the mask of shame, and
Speaker 3: your black heart will be pierced by the sacred cross
Speaker 3: wrought with silver from the Bayer to Chalice. And now
Speaker 3: Paul Nashy, he looks really bummed, but actually this is
Speaker 3: kind of a relief to him. I think he sort
Speaker 3: of looks up at God, I guess, and says, now
Speaker 3: my spirit will finally be able to rest in peace.
Speaker 3: So it seems like actually he's not even mad about it.
Speaker 3: He's like, finally they're going to just do the silver
Speaker 3: thing in my heart and everything will be okay.
Speaker 1: Bring on the mask of shame then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they behead one of the murder servants and
Speaker 3: then they go up to Voldemar with the mask of shame,
Speaker 3: and I gotta say it is it is a quite
Speaker 3: shameful mask. It looks like an iron Ewok.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got kind of notes of a bat off
Speaker 1: of it. But but you know, it's the mask of shame, Joe.
Speaker 1: It's not the mask of looking really cool, though. I
Speaker 1: guess it does look cooler than some actual historic masks
Speaker 1: of shame that you find that tend to just look
Speaker 1: a little bit more goofy fair point.
Speaker 3: So they hammer the silver dagger into his heart and
Speaker 3: that's I guess that's it for Voldemar. He will never
Speaker 3: rise again.
Speaker 1: He's wearing the mask. The blood comes out of the
Speaker 1: mouth of the mask.
Speaker 3: And here's where we get the song. Is this the
Speaker 3: the Regatta song?
Speaker 1: Yeah, boom boom, yeah, boom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 3: Groovy bassline, some some horns blasting, and then the the
Speaker 3: harpsichord at the same time.
Speaker 1: Now, I think I had to look at two different
Speaker 1: versions of the credits because I think on the the
Speaker 1: the the American opening credits, there are there's like a
Speaker 1: long stretch where there are no credits over the mask.
Speaker 1: It's just music and bloody mask of shame. But in
Speaker 1: the you look back at the original Spanish credits and
Speaker 1: like there are credits rolling over that. So if that
Speaker 1: looks weird in the international versions of it, that's just
Speaker 1: the international version.
Speaker 3: Then we cut to modern day and I know this
Speaker 3: is a Spanish movie, but this first scene in the
Speaker 3: modern era, it is just so in line with the
Speaker 3: archetype of the first scene you get where you meet
Speaker 3: the protagonists in an Italian horror movie of the seventies.
Speaker 3: So let me describe it and maybe you'll know what
Speaker 3: I mean. We're somewhere in Rome in the modern era.
Speaker 3: Four hip young people are hanging out on a blanket
Speaker 3: in the grass by a pool somewhere. It's two men,
Speaker 3: two women. The women are beautiful, the men are skeezy jerks, bikinis,
Speaker 3: dudes in swim briefs, gold jewelry. There is a ratan
Speaker 3: te tray on which there is an ice bucket and
Speaker 3: a chord of scotch, and they're mixing scotch with schwepes
Speaker 3: over ice in fancy crystal pattern lowball glasses. And then
Speaker 3: there is a pack. The camera is close on a
Speaker 3: pack of Lark brand cigarettes lying between them and the grass,
Speaker 3: next to an ash tray with like thirty cigarette butts
Speaker 3: in it. It looks like it's like noon, so like
Speaker 3: high sun beating down on them. At least we zoom out.
Speaker 3: At least two more packs of cigarettes become visible within
Speaker 3: a five foot radius of the original. A portable radio
Speaker 3: is blasting some kind of song that has like it's
Speaker 3: like candy sweet pop love song harmonies, but also what
Speaker 3: sounds like prog rock guitar. Then the women hanging out
Speaker 3: here are talking about a friend of theirs named Erica,
Speaker 3: who is about to head to Transylvania to explore quote
Speaker 3: the mysteries. They say, it's like going back in time.
Speaker 3: And then the two dudes are like, your friend is
Speaker 3: stupid who still believes in ghosts and black magic in
Speaker 3: this day and age. And then the other guy's like, hey,
Speaker 3: remember when she got drunk and started talking about how
Speaker 3: she could communicate with the spirit of a dead Hungarian countess. Preposterous.
Speaker 3: And then one of the ladies is like, hey, stop
Speaker 3: insulting our friend. We are scientists. And then the dudes
Speaker 3: are like, scientists, but you're women. You're beautiful, you can't
Speaker 3: be scientists. You should stop being interested in things that
Speaker 3: end with ology. And then the women shoved the dudes
Speaker 3: into the pool, and the dudes appear to yell something
Speaker 3: offensive at the women, for which there were no subtitles.
Speaker 1: Now give this film credit, though. They shove these these
Speaker 1: really annoying dudes into the pool and you never see
Speaker 1: them again.
Speaker 3: You never see them again. They're just done with those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad they didn't come on the trip.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they'd come on the trip, they would die,
Speaker 1: to be sure, and there would be some sort of
Speaker 1: Catharsis in that. But I'm glad they stayed stayed in Rome.
Speaker 3: I agree. I was when we met them. I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: we just are these guys going to be around the
Speaker 3: whole movie? But nope, shoved in the pool. They yell
Speaker 3: some kind of insult, not even bothered to subtitle it,
Speaker 3: and then we're gone. Now the whole thing about the
Speaker 3: two women from the scene being scientists, I was a
Speaker 3: little iffy on that because from what they're saying, whatever
Speaker 3: field of science these two people are studying seems to
Speaker 3: involve magic and necromancy and maybe not even like studying it,
Speaker 3: but like practicing it. So I'm confused what science this is.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of science that is backed up
Speaker 1: in ads for shady products, Like scientists agree, Well, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's these folks.
Speaker 3: Maybe of the more pseudo variety. Okay, So there's another
Speaker 3: scene we cut to where there's like an old professor
Speaker 3: and a young woman and they're having tea discussing Countess Bathory.
Speaker 3: This lady is the Erica that the other people were
Speaker 3: talking about behind her back in the previous scene, and
Speaker 3: the professor is in possession. In this he's got a
Speaker 3: gold medallion with a pentagram goat head on it and
Speaker 3: it says Astroth And he says, you know, this medallion
Speaker 3: belonged to Countess Bathory, and according to legend, if the
Speaker 3: blood of a young woman is spilled on the ashes
Speaker 3: of the countess and the medallion ritual is used to
Speaker 3: invoke Astaroth. Then Elizabeth Bathory is going to return from
Speaker 3: the grave. And Erica says, you know, Karen, Barbara and
Speaker 3: I and Karen and Barbara where the women and the
Speaker 3: other scene. The three of us, We've researched old libraries,
Speaker 3: ruined castles, monasteries and all kinds of documents. And the
Speaker 3: professor is like, I know you were my best students.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of your dedication, though at the same time
Speaker 3: it does kind of sound like he's just trying to
Speaker 3: get her to stop talking about Elizabeth Bathory. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, nobody knows where Bathory's remains are,
Speaker 3: so we cannot continue our studies on this. But then
Speaker 3: Erica revealed she does know. She discovered the location of
Speaker 3: Bathory's ashes, as well as of Voldemar Doninski and her
Speaker 3: cousin Otvos. They're all hiding in a castle somewhere in
Speaker 3: the Carpathian Mountains, and she says, and we will go there.
Speaker 3: And what exactly is the outcome they're looking for unclear
Speaker 3: at this point, but.
Speaker 1: I think we know I think we know what Erica
Speaker 1: anyway has in store.
Speaker 3: Right, Because so Erica wants to raise she asked the
Speaker 3: professor if she can take the medallion with her when
Speaker 3: she goes to the Carpathian Mountains, and he gets very angry.
Speaker 3: So he's like, hey, I am a respected academic. I'm
Speaker 3: not somebody who engages in necromancy. So whatever his research
Speaker 3: project is, it is not explicitly raising the dead. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's like learning how to raise the dead, but not
Speaker 3: doing it.
Speaker 1: It's like, I, yes, I do own the historic Astaroth
Speaker 1: medallion that will raise Count's Bathory from the grave, but
Speaker 1: I'm not into this stuff. Shouldn't be into this stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is just for historical interest. It's not
Speaker 3: because I'm into it. But Erica starts seeing visions of
Speaker 3: a face in the flames of the fireplace. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: Bathory's face, I don't remember, and she says, you know,
Speaker 3: it's been a long time since I fully embraced Satanism,
Speaker 3: but I've been talking to Elizabeth Bathory a lot, talking
Speaker 3: to her spirit, really getting to know her, and she
Speaker 3: got a raw deal. So here's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Karen and Barbara with me to the
Speaker 3: castle and I'm going to kill them and use their
Speaker 3: blood to raise the Countess from the dead, and then
Speaker 3: we will enter a world of infinite power. And it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter that you won't give me the medallion, because
Speaker 3: I'm going to kill you and take it. And then
Speaker 3: she strangles him with gold Mardy grubides and as this
Speaker 3: is happening, we cut away to a painting on the wall.
Speaker 3: I think this is supposed to be a paint of
Speaker 3: Paul Nashy and it I'm gonna say it's not a
Speaker 3: great likeness. It looks more like acid test John Ham
Speaker 3: with like a beard and long hair. But it's when
Speaker 3: it zooms out you see the other portraits on the wall.
Speaker 3: This again he's this is the guy who's like, I
Speaker 3: will not do necromancy. The paintings on his wall are
Speaker 3: Paul Nashy, Vlad the Impaler, and Bathory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really brought this on himself, but.
Speaker 3: Okay, Erica has the medallion.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Next scene, we get a couple of guys in a
Speaker 3: cemetery somewhere in the middle of the night, and they
Speaker 3: are arguing about whether it is a good idea to
Speaker 3: engage in grave robbery. There's like a sort of a stammering,
Speaker 3: rustic character who isn't so sure about the propriety of
Speaker 3: stealing dead bodies. And then there is a rotund, wealthy
Speaker 3: man in a tuxedo of sorts, I guess it's more
Speaker 3: kind of a old fashioned tuxedoish looking thing. He's gesticulating
Speaker 3: with a skull top cane in his hand. It's got
Speaker 3: like a silver skull on top. And he seems to
Speaker 3: have hired the other guy, and he's offering these smooth
Speaker 3: assurances that what they're doing is super cool, all above board.
Speaker 3: His story is they're gonna, you know, they're going to
Speaker 3: recover some priceless artifacts and donate them to the museum
Speaker 3: in Budapest. Oh and as they're wandering around arguing, we
Speaker 3: keep hearing this distant, booming, animalistic shriek, like one of
Speaker 3: the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, just bellowing in the night.
Speaker 3: Did you notice this too?
Speaker 1: What was going on? I didn't notice this, but it
Speaker 1: makes sense given the way that they present the region
Speaker 1: surrounding the castle, like this is a bad area. This
Speaker 1: is like raven lof territory. The only people who initially
Speaker 1: seem to be in this area are like grave robbers, bandits,
Speaker 1: and folks who are generally up to no good. That
Speaker 1: begins to shift a little bit, but at least initially
Speaker 1: like this is a bad land full of bad folk.
Speaker 3: Yes, like literally everyone in this geographic area will violently
Speaker 3: attack you on site.
Speaker 1: But these two, these two are also kind of fun.
Speaker 1: Like I could have followed them around for a little
Speaker 1: bit more. I could see, like this the basic comic
Speaker 1: mechanisms in play here.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, this was good. It was a good dynamic.
Speaker 3: So they go down into this underground crypt. They find
Speaker 3: the grave of Count Valdemar Doninsky, and the grave digger
Speaker 3: reads the inscription, which is just effusive promises of vicious
Speaker 3: supernatural revenge against anyone who disturbs these remains, and tuxedo
Speaker 3: guys like, all right, let's get a move on. Open
Speaker 3: it up, so they, you know, they take the stone
Speaker 3: cover off the vault and there's Paul Nashi still in
Speaker 3: his iron Ewok mask, with a silver dagger poking out
Speaker 3: of his chest. The tuxedo guy greedily removes the dagger
Speaker 3: and then bam, it is instant lightning strikes and Valdemar's
Speaker 3: eyes start darting around behind the slits in his mask.
Speaker 3: This shot I thought was very scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is pretty good. And of course this
Speaker 1: also lines up with past Dninsky resurrection scene an assignment terror.
Speaker 1: It's done because what they get the body of Doninski
Speaker 1: and they perform an autopsy on it and remove a
Speaker 1: silver bullet from his heart. I think something along those lines.
Speaker 1: So the silver's in there, but the silver doesn't really
Speaker 1: kill Doninski, doesn't kill a super powerful where wolf. It
Speaker 1: just like turns them off. It puts them in this
Speaker 1: state of unlife, but that can easily be reversed.
Speaker 3: It puts him in energy saver mode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh what do you know?
Speaker 3: These grave diggers picked the wrong neck to do this
Speaker 3: because it's a full moon. So wolf mode just instantly activates.
Speaker 3: He's growling and grabbing them by the neck with his claws.
Speaker 1: Blood dripping. Yeah, they're gone.
Speaker 3: Yep, Okay. So then Karen, Barbara and Erica they are
Speaker 3: just already at the Carpathian Mountains. They're there. They rent
Speaker 3: a car from a local guy. They drive up to
Speaker 3: the mountains where they have been warned that bandits will
Speaker 3: kill without hesitating and the devil rules overall. On the way,
Speaker 3: they do get attacked by horrible, violent local bandits, but
Speaker 3: they are saved when a figure in black with a
Speaker 3: crossbow shoots all three bandits with crossbow bolts. And they
Speaker 3: don't really seem to have the kind of questions you
Speaker 3: would expect about this. They just like get back into
Speaker 3: the car and drive on to their destination.
Speaker 1: I love too how the crossbow user here just fires
Speaker 1: them off in rapid order, so it's like it's a
Speaker 1: it's like a machine gun crossbow apparently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you think it would take more reloading time.
Speaker 3: But maybe he had three crossbows ready.
Speaker 1: That's right. We don't really see. He could have just
Speaker 1: a whole bushel of loaded crossbows on the ready.
Speaker 3: So they go up to this castle. What's up at
Speaker 3: the castle, Well, there's just sort of like loose bulk
Speaker 3: skeletons everywhere, and so like you know, rats are running
Speaker 3: in and out of rib cages, skeletons with swords poken
Speaker 3: out of them, and there are rotting skeletons hanging by
Speaker 3: the neck in hallways. The implication is that they've been
Speaker 3: like that for hundreds of years. I don't know, if
Speaker 3: that would work.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've we see this sort of castle in
Speaker 1: every Spanish horror movie from this time period, and honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, if one day I get the opportunity to
Speaker 1: go to Spain and experience the culture and the history,
Speaker 1: part of me is going to be a little upset
Speaker 1: if none of these castles look like this.
Speaker 3: Where are all the skeletons? Yes, But eventually Erica and
Speaker 3: Barbara they go down into the crypt and they find
Speaker 3: Valdemar Doninsky's grave, and they find Tuxedo Guy's Skullkane earlier.
Speaker 3: One of them points out, hey, that is a silver
Speaker 3: top that could be useful, and then they go down
Speaker 3: the hall to find the bathory crypt. Meanwhile, Karen gets scared.
Speaker 3: She gets startled by another woman in the castle who
Speaker 3: she just kind of runs into, who has burns on
Speaker 3: her face. This is mere Kaya, the character who is
Speaker 3: sort of a tragic character. And then Karen stumbles outside.
Speaker 3: She gets startled because she sees Valdemar standing up in
Speaker 3: a like a window or a gateway, pointing a crossbow
Speaker 3: at her, and then she falls backward and faints, falls
Speaker 3: into a hole.
Speaker 1: I have to say, Valdemar in these scenes, he looks
Speaker 1: like he looks great. He looks like like a medieval vigilante,
Speaker 1: a medieval superhero or something. Here.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got black clothes with gold trim on the
Speaker 3: tunic and the Baseball symbol on his chest, with a
Speaker 3: big dagger and a crossbow. He looks cool. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's Paul Nashy cool, which is a different kind of
Speaker 3: cool than like Tom Cruise cool. But here's one of
Speaker 3: those moments. I mean, there have been a couple already
Speaker 3: that I didn't really explain, but here's one of those moments.
Speaker 3: I think I alluded to this earlier in this episode,
Speaker 3: but there are a bunch of moments in the movie
Speaker 3: where it really feels like something is missing. We just
Speaker 3: suddenly jump ahead to the middle of another scene, and
Speaker 3: what happens here is suddenly the other to raise the
Speaker 3: dead ologists Erica and Barbara are having dinner with Paul Nashy.
Speaker 3: They're like sitting at a table with him, and he's
Speaker 3: being a gracious host. It felt to me like something
Speaker 3: got cut. Karen is recuperating from her fall in a bed.
Speaker 3: The servant mir Kaya hides a crucifix under her pillow
Speaker 3: and Paul Nashy is just you know, he's entertaining his guests.
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, you're welcome to stay here. Oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, drink this special local infusion, maybe with
Speaker 3: Transylvanian herbs. I thought this was going to turn them
Speaker 3: into wolves or something, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Now he's just looking after me and just knows it's
Speaker 1: a good like diuretic or something. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But later, Erica and Barbara are hanging out and they're
Speaker 3: talking about their host's identity and Erica, she is the
Speaker 3: evil one of the three, but she's also the best
Speaker 3: scholar of the three, I think. So she has figured
Speaker 3: out this guy that's Valdemar. Our host is Valdemar Doninski,
Speaker 3: the wolf Man, and she knows because of the baseball logo,
Speaker 3: and she explains a legend that I think the way
Speaker 3: she says it is his curse can only be broken
Speaker 3: if a woman who loves him enough to die for
Speaker 3: him stabs him in the heart with a silver dagger.
Speaker 3: And I was just thinking, wait, isn't that exact same
Speaker 3: legend in Assignment Terror?
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, it's the exact way that that it's
Speaker 1: described to us, and exactly the way it plays out
Speaker 1: in that movie as well.
Speaker 3: So he's trying to create a pattern with the Voldemar character.
Speaker 3: It's like Dracula. It's you know, they're rules that persist
Speaker 3: across different Dracula media, even if the story is totally different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, though I'm off the top of my head, I
Speaker 1: can't remember how the Werewolf and the Yetti ended on
Speaker 1: that front. I did watch it while I had COVID,
Speaker 1: so I was a little out of it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it may end the same way as well. But yeah,
Speaker 1: lots of things are different, but you know, your Coredeninsky
Speaker 1: lore more or less is the same.
Speaker 3: I think it's a good move building out the lore
Speaker 3: that way. But so Barbara's freaked out, like, oh, we're
Speaker 3: at the Wolfman's castle. You know, we got to get
Speaker 3: out of here. But Erica says, don't worry. There's no
Speaker 3: way he can hurt us because this cane I found
Speaker 3: in the crypt has a silver top, and bullets can
Speaker 3: be made out of that silver.
Speaker 1: Where where are they going to make both?
Speaker 3: Aren't you skipping a few steps? Also, do you have
Speaker 3: an that could shoot those bullets?
Speaker 1: Yeah? There's a crossbow around Yeah. Yeah, So I don't see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like they're they're skipping over a few
Speaker 3: stops on the road to feeling totally safe from wear
Speaker 3: wolf troubles. Meanwhile, we see Doninsky getting it. He he
Speaker 3: does wear wolf trouble elsewhere. He goes into wolf mode
Speaker 3: and goes out to eat some people in the grounds
Speaker 3: around the castle. He gets into barn mischief.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are multiple scenes of him going out and
Speaker 1: murdering and in general. Though even though we've we see
Speaker 1: a lot of bandits and we see a lot of
Speaker 1: grave robbers, Doninsky's finding people to kill that just don't
Speaker 1: seem to necessarily be up to mischief. They just seem
Speaker 1: to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people all camping around his castle,
Speaker 3: so it's it's bandit country full of horrible, nasty, violent
Speaker 3: bandits and grave robbers and thieves, but also people just
Speaker 3: backpacking through the country.
Speaker 1: I guess you know, they didn't have the all trails
Speaker 1: at back there, so you didn't have the little icons
Speaker 1: that would pop up. It's like, okay, bandits, grave robbers,
Speaker 1: and wear wolves on this one, and maybe we should
Speaker 1: go for something a little closer into town.
Speaker 3: There have been eighty two were wolf attacks in this
Speaker 3: location in the past month. Yeah, now, I think later,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's that night some other time.
Speaker 3: Doninsky is shown talking to Mirkaya, the servant with the burns,
Speaker 3: and they discuss some things about their new guests. First
Speaker 3: of all, they say Karen is the chosen one. I
Speaker 3: don't know what that means yet, And they say Erica
Speaker 3: is evil. You gotta be careful about her. But then
Speaker 3: Doninsky is like, but she is beautiful. It's like Valdemar,
Speaker 3: you should know better.
Speaker 1: But this is he gets into trouble like this every time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: remember that last girlfriend you had, that was Elizabeth Bathory.
Speaker 1: She got you executed and also she turned you into
Speaker 1: a were wolf. Come on, so Erica.
Speaker 3: Later she's talking to the grave of Countess Bathory, and
Speaker 3: there's one part that made me laugh. The line was
Speaker 3: she says, Elizabeth, the big day is near, so they're
Speaker 3: building up to the time when she can be resurrected.
Speaker 3: I think. But here's the part where again it feels
Speaker 3: like something is just missing. Suddenly, Karen. The last time
Speaker 3: we saw her, she's like recovering from her fall in bed.
Speaker 3: Now suddenly she's up and about and she and Doninski
Speaker 3: are already in a relationship. They're like walking around the
Speaker 3: castle together having a deep heart to heart conversation and
Speaker 3: they're kissing, and it feels like, Okay, there should have
Speaker 3: been a scene where they're like first meeting and falling
Speaker 3: in love, but we don't see any of that. It's
Speaker 3: just now they're in love.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it does feel like like we skipped over
Speaker 1: some steps there, but here we are full blown love story.
Speaker 1: She is the chosen one. Yeah, and by that, where
Speaker 1: I think to understand, that means that she loves him
Speaker 1: enough to potentially kill him with.
Speaker 3: The silver dagger, with the silver yeah. Oh, and Erica
Speaker 3: is like staring at them with just know them in
Speaker 3: her eyes.
Speaker 1: She's jealous, Yeah, because I mean it's true love. I
Speaker 1: mean people ask, you know what he's love and it's
Speaker 1: been a universal human question for so long, But I
Speaker 1: mean this movie answers it. It is do you love
Speaker 1: someone enough to stab them through the heart and destroy
Speaker 1: them when they're a werewolf? That's that's the litmus test
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 3: I don't know if these are lessons that can be
Speaker 3: applied to your daily life in a way.
Speaker 1: I hope not.
Speaker 3: Oh, but we also love we learn about the mere
Speaker 3: Kaya backstory. Everybody loves Valdemar b so Erica loves Valdemar
Speaker 3: or I don't know about loves him. She's jealous at least.
Speaker 3: Karen loves Valdemar, and mir Kaya also loves Valdemar, but
Speaker 3: she's like, you know, oh no, Karen, you're the chosen one.
Speaker 3: You can love him. I'll just be sad. But her
Speaker 3: backstory is that she was accused of witchcraft and burned
Speaker 3: at the stake, but then a storm came and extinguished
Speaker 3: the fire, so she was able to escape and Valdemar
Speaker 3: took her in. And I was a little confused about
Speaker 3: the timeline here, like did this happen since he was
Speaker 3: brought back from the dead a few days.
Speaker 1: Ago, he would have to be right. This would have
Speaker 1: had to have happened in nineteen eighty Yeah, in rural Europe.
Speaker 1: So yeah. Otherwise they're skipping over some other stuff, like
Speaker 1: well how did she come back to life?
Speaker 3: So later there's a full moon, and then we get
Speaker 3: our first Paul Nashy wolf transformation scene. We've already seen
Speaker 3: him as a wolf man going out and biting people,
Speaker 3: but now we actually get to see him change and
Speaker 3: the transformation it's full of it's you know, it's the
Speaker 3: passion of the wolf. The transformation is painful. It fills
Speaker 3: him with not just physical pain, but moral and emotional anguish.
Speaker 3: He seems to be trying his best to resist it,
Speaker 3: to fight it off, but he can't. He breaks and
Speaker 3: throws a lot of furnishings in his house as he's changing.
Speaker 3: And the physical transformation, I would say, is primarily achieved
Speaker 3: to be a step wise migration of his beard up
Speaker 3: across his face.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, The the aspects of this transformation are very
Speaker 1: much in line with your classic wolf man effects and
Speaker 1: I think have to be judged within that context. But
Speaker 1: I but I do. I do think the ultimate look
Speaker 1: that we get, the ultimate werewolf makeup, looks really solid
Speaker 1: and Nashi's performance, the emotion he pours into the transformation
Speaker 1: is so good.
Speaker 3: I apologize if this is a question that I've already asked,
Speaker 3: maybe when we were covering Assignment Terror. I don't remember,
Speaker 3: But I wonder if one or the other werewolf design
Speaker 3: better lends itself to the tragedy of the werewolf story.
Speaker 3: Like so both American werewolf in London and this this
Speaker 3: story both have like a tragic werewolf where you feel
Speaker 3: sad for him, But American werewolf has the more dog
Speaker 3: form quadrupedal, long snout. This one is the you know,
Speaker 3: the the classic one Janey human style head up on,
Speaker 3: you know, bipedal. Which one do you think goes more
Speaker 3: for the sadness of the werewolf condition?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: one would be tempted to think, well, the one that
Speaker 1: looks more human, maybe he leans into more of a
Speaker 1: human understanding of the monster, and therefore the snouted were
Speaker 1: wolves lean more monstrous. But I don't think it's necessarily
Speaker 1: the case, because you know, I think you feel a
Speaker 1: lot of sympathy for the beast in American Werewolf in London.
Speaker 1: So hard to say. I will say this though, I
Speaker 1: think that for the most part, the traditional wolfman has
Speaker 1: been easier to integrate physically into a scene, whereas if
Speaker 1: you have an elaborate snouted beast, the practical effect may
Speaker 1: be difficult to integrate. And then by the time you're
Speaker 1: getting to see gi stuff, well obviously they're going to
Speaker 1: be integration problems there as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess the more human form
Speaker 3: wolf man can do human relationship posture, like can help
Speaker 3: somebody or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can, I guess you can also make
Speaker 1: a strong argument for even though we're talking about a
Speaker 1: lot of were wolf makeup, the actor is still able
Speaker 1: to emote through the makeup, through that costume and embody
Speaker 1: that character in a way that might be more difficult
Speaker 1: or even impossible with other forms of effects that are
Speaker 1: gonna be necessary for your full snout boy wear wolf.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, So anyway, in the scene there's a transformation.
Speaker 3: But once wolf mode is fully throttled up, like he
Speaker 3: menaces Karen for a second, it's like, oh, no, is
Speaker 3: he gonna attack his beloved? But no, Just when he's
Speaker 3: about to, Mirkaya shows up to save the day. She
Speaker 3: holds out a silver cross and holds it in his face,
Speaker 3: and this seems to kind of shame him out of
Speaker 3: eating his new girlfriend. Instead, he jumps through a window,
Speaker 3: runs around outside until he finds a guy camping a
Speaker 3: camper cooking a pot of something over a fire, and
Speaker 3: he attacks. Then he also goes to a village and
Speaker 3: just attacks more people. He like bite it's a lady
Speaker 3: who's getting water out of a well and then kind
Speaker 3: of casually drops her in a watering trough and runs away.
Speaker 3: And I'll say Doninsky is a very efficient werewolf. Like
Speaker 3: most attacks, there are some exceptions, like earlier in the
Speaker 3: movie there's one part where he like attacks a lady
Speaker 3: and then like carries her away, But in most attacks,
Speaker 3: he just like bites somebody and then bolts, like he
Speaker 3: grabs their arms, bite the neck, show the blood on
Speaker 3: his teeth to the camera. They gleam, that gleams in
Speaker 3: the moonlight for a second, and then he drops the
Speaker 3: human and runs away. The whole thing is about eight seconds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's almost like it's he's he's he's
Speaker 1: shameful over it. You know. It's like the beast overcomes
Speaker 1: in and in and in satisfying this thirst, this hunger
Speaker 1: for just a second. Like it's also enough for him
Speaker 1: to sort of wake up a little bit and like
Speaker 1: drop what he's doing and move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I am probably being overly generous in that analysis.
Speaker 3: No, No, I think that makes sense. Yeah, he's like, uh,
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of human Dninsky still operative in
Speaker 3: there that can be like, oh, what have I done?
Speaker 3: And then he runs away, but then he does it
Speaker 3: again because he's a wolf. So while he's out, Mirkaia
Speaker 3: fills Karen in on some lure. She explains, I don't know,
Speaker 3: so sort of the backstory, and then she's like, by
Speaker 3: the way, remember your scientist friends who you came here with. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's hope they're dead, because if not, they're vampires now.
Speaker 3: And if you see them again, use this silver cross
Speaker 3: shaped dagger to protect yourself from them. And you know what,
Speaker 3: Merkaiah's instincts or right on the money. So Erica has
Speaker 3: done exactly what she told the professor she was going
Speaker 3: to do. She hypnotizes Barbara, kills her, uses her blood
Speaker 3: to rehydrate Elizabeth Bathory like like drips her blood down
Speaker 3: on her, and the rehydration scene has a pretty cool
Speaker 3: looking effect where the blood like drips onto the statue
Speaker 3: of Bathory on the grave and it starts sort of
Speaker 3: dissolving the stone and releasing puffs of steam, and Erica's
Speaker 3: looking around and frantically she's like, oh, dude, I did it.
Speaker 3: What's up now? And the lid lifts off the vault
Speaker 3: and Bathory wakes up and she has a very creepy outfit.
Speaker 3: I like the costuming in the scene. It's a black
Speaker 3: dress with gold trim, kind of like Doninsky's black outfit
Speaker 3: with gold trim, and it has this two lobed bonnet.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you call that. It's a bonnet
Speaker 3: that has two humps instead of one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what it's called either. The bonnet.
Speaker 3: It's good. It's got the gold trim, the black veil,
Speaker 3: and no messing around it all. She just grabs Erica
Speaker 3: vamps her. Okay, here's one vampire servant. It's a neck bite.
Speaker 3: And then she also raises one of her other servants
Speaker 3: from the dead. But unlike Valdemar and the Countess, this
Speaker 3: guy is fully decayed. He's a zombie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this would be Outvos that she's revived as like
Speaker 1: a blind dead as zombie like. He's crumbling and skeletal,
Speaker 1: but also pretty bulky like obviously he's intended to be
Speaker 1: the heavy of the outfit. And at this point in
Speaker 1: the film, I'm like, oh man, it's on now, because
Speaker 1: Bathory not only has Bathory revived and resurrected, but now
Speaker 1: she has a crew, she has AVOs here, she's got
Speaker 1: vampire ladies, a number of them, and seemingly she's going
Speaker 1: to recruit even more so now she is already a
Speaker 1: force to contend with.
Speaker 3: No, there was a part somewhere around here that made
Speaker 3: me laugh out loud. It's the scene where Paul Nashy
Speaker 3: comes home after a hard night of wolfing out. You
Speaker 3: remember he staggers in the door and he's exhausted and
Speaker 3: covered in blood, and Karen's waiting there and embraces him.
Speaker 3: It just seems like it's been a hard day's night.
Speaker 3: But then there's a scene where Bathory has her first
Speaker 3: like she has the minions assembled. They're all standing there
Speaker 3: information in front of her crypt. They're ready to take orders.
Speaker 3: And now both of the former dead rasiologists are wearing
Speaker 3: vampire queen dresses like they're now all in black dresses
Speaker 3: like bath three. And I was thinking, wait, where did
Speaker 3: they get the new costumes? Did they pack these vampire
Speaker 3: queen dresses when they came to Transylvania Or does Countess
Speaker 3: Bathory have a community wardrobe for new vampires to source from.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, I guess she has wardrobe because she
Speaker 1: can't have her new minions running around in like trendy
Speaker 1: T shirts that they bought in Rome. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: they need they need to look the part. They're representing
Speaker 1: a brand, now.
Speaker 3: That's right. So they are in uniform and Bathory says
Speaker 3: to them, we need Paul Nashy's power. She says, quote
Speaker 3: Voldemar must serve me again. We need his strength, his
Speaker 3: thirst for death, his invulnerability. I won't have all my
Speaker 3: power back until the Great Ritual Night. Then our Lord
Speaker 3: Satan will answer my call and the Kingdom of Darkness
Speaker 3: will come to earth. Until then, the werewolf must be
Speaker 3: under my command. So there are basically two factions operating.
Speaker 3: Now You've got like Valdemar, Karen, and Mirkaya on one side,
Speaker 3: and then bath and all her minions on the other.
Speaker 3: But they are all in the same building, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well there's this I don't know if this
Speaker 1: occurs now or later, but there's this whole like subplot,
Speaker 1: the research plot, where they take off, the vampires take off,
Speaker 1: and then they steal some coffins from somebody or they
Speaker 1: get delivered. Yet they relocate, but then meanwhile Doninsky's researching
Speaker 1: and then finally he's like, oh, they didn't relocate, they're
Speaker 1: in the same castle, so I was a little confused
Speaker 1: on how that came together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't quite understand that either, but for now
Speaker 3: they're definitely in the same place, and the Blood Countess
Speaker 3: she sends vampire Erica out to vampamir Kaya because she's like,
Speaker 3: we got to take away from his side. So you know,
Speaker 3: Erica does that. She vamps the mer Kaya and then
Speaker 3: bathes in her blood. But then Valdemar and Karen find
Speaker 3: evidence of this, and then suddenly we cut there again.
Speaker 3: There's like some very like jumpy editing. We cut suddenly
Speaker 3: to these do eating with Voldemar and Karen in this
Speaker 3: very brown room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, out of nowhere, suddenly they seem to be
Speaker 1: academics that that Valdemar has called up or something, or
Speaker 1: they're just paying a house visit. They're like, hey, Valdemar,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk. What's what's going on?
Speaker 3: And that's what you think, Yeah, that's what you think.
Speaker 3: At first, they're sharing news of the surrounding towns and countryside.
Speaker 3: They're like werewolves and vampires are killing everybody and draining
Speaker 3: their blood. So I think we are to understand now
Speaker 3: that like Bathorys vampires have been operating in the area
Speaker 3: for a while, but that clearly would mean we've cut
Speaker 3: forward in time because they just rose. One of the
Speaker 3: guys is, well, they're like, you've got to use garlic
Speaker 3: to protect yourself. One guy recommends putting garlic in your
Speaker 3: in one's rectum, and then the other one scolds him
Speaker 3: for being crude and saying that. But they do say, hey,
Speaker 3: the vampires are women, and then Doninsky's like, oh, I
Speaker 3: know what that means. That's Bathories people. So while at
Speaker 3: first it seems like these guys might be professors or
Speaker 3: clerics of some kind, what do you know, they're also
Speaker 3: just thieves. They want a burglarize. They want to burglarized
Speaker 3: Valdemar's castle. Bad idea, guys. But before they get the chance,
Speaker 3: they're hanging out in a barn somewhere outside. I think
Speaker 3: this is the barn where everybody gets attacked. It's the
Speaker 3: barn of Mischief, and they're hanging out there and two
Speaker 3: of Bathory's vamp women, like Treadmill glide into the room
Speaker 3: surrounded by unholy mist.
Speaker 1: It's a cool looking vamp glide scene. I love it.
Speaker 3: Now here's a history of cinema question. This is used
Speaker 3: in a lot of films where like the vampire is shot,
Speaker 3: you know, you see above from above their feet, they're
Speaker 3: shot from the waist up or something, and they move
Speaker 3: towards you clearly without walking, like their legs are not moving,
Speaker 3: and suggesting that maybe they're floating an inch above the
Speaker 3: floor or something. What was the first movie to do that?
Speaker 3: Where does the glide convention come from?
Speaker 1: That's a great question, I would venture to guess. Not here,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming where is it from somewhere? But yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a product of like the
Speaker 1: Hammer era, or if this goes all the way back
Speaker 1: to the thirties or what. Off the top of my head,
Speaker 1: I can't think of the earliest example that I've seen.
Speaker 3: I don't recall it happening in any of the universal
Speaker 3: vampire movies, but I.
Speaker 1: Feel like it's a definite Hammer play, though I think
Speaker 1: I've seen it in Hammer films before.
Speaker 3: Another place where it feels like we suddenly jump ahead.
Speaker 3: We cut straight from the vamp ladies looming in the
Speaker 3: midst to Valdemar and Karen finishing graves for the two
Speaker 3: thief guys talking about how yeah, we had to put
Speaker 3: steaks in him and cut their heads off to make
Speaker 3: sure they wouldn't come back. But Valdemar goes on to say,
Speaker 3: you know what, Okay, so we know what's happening. Now
Speaker 3: Bathory's back, She's going to want to kill you, Karen,
Speaker 3: So tonight you've got to lock yourself in your room
Speaker 3: and keep this cross next to you, the silver Dagger here. Now,
Speaker 3: Karen at this point asks an extremely sensible question, the
Speaker 3: one I was thinking about. She's like, why don't we
Speaker 3: just go down in the crips like they're down there
Speaker 3: in the same building we are, Why don't we go
Speaker 3: down and destroy them? But Valdemar has an answer. I
Speaker 3: guess this makes sense. He says, I'm not strong enough yet,
Speaker 3: can't do it until the full moon comes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's only in the werewolf
Speaker 1: form that he's gonna have any chance of standing up
Speaker 1: to Bathory and her minions. And I think you could
Speaker 1: probably add on top of that, it's like this apparentlyss
Speaker 1: castle is apparently huge, and it's it's it's dungeons and
Speaker 1: its cripts are extensive, so we're not sure even exactly
Speaker 1: where they might be down there, and they've got to
Speaker 1: they've got to spend all their time just cleaning up.
Speaker 1: They would be vampires. Yeah, they surrounding countryside and burying
Speaker 1: their dead.
Speaker 3: I guess that's true. So that night there are vampire
Speaker 3: attacks on both Karen and Valdemar, but Karen really comes through.
Speaker 3: She saves the day. So vampire Barbara attacks her, but
Speaker 3: she fights her off with the Silver Cross dagger, and
Speaker 3: then Barbara emits a lot of smoke, but I couldn't
Speaker 3: tell if she was actually like destroyed as a vampire
Speaker 3: or just kind of incapacitated. I'm not sure. But then
Speaker 3: another one of the vamps, this was Erica, comes into
Speaker 3: Valdemar's room and starts to hypnotize him, starts kissing him.
Speaker 3: She's ready to bite, but then Karen busts in with
Speaker 3: the Silver Cross and rescues him.
Speaker 1: Is this a scene with the mirror over the bed.
Speaker 3: Yes, the vampire has no reflection.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so in the forefront it's Valdemar and the
Speaker 1: vampire embracing and kissing, but then in the mirror behind him,
Speaker 1: he's like he's like kissing an invisible woman. Yeah that's great.
Speaker 3: So now Valdemar and Karen. I guess he's changed his
Speaker 3: mind about going down to the crips. He tries to
Speaker 3: go on offense, goes down there, he fights the Otvos zombie.
Speaker 3: That's over pretty quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he makes pretty short work about Vos. I
Speaker 1: was kind of hoping for a more drawn out battle
Speaker 1: between those two, but he knows what he's doing, takes
Speaker 1: him out in no time.
Speaker 3: But the vamps aren't there. They have now relocated. And
Speaker 3: then a terrible twist happens. Bathori herself sneaks into Karen's
Speaker 3: room at night and she manages to get around the
Speaker 3: defense the security system of the Silver Deack by covering
Speaker 3: it up with a cloth. Didn't think of that.
Speaker 1: Then she does it. She does it telekinetically, I think too.
Speaker 3: She's like whoaow, yeah, and she covers it up with
Speaker 3: the cloth and then she vamps Karen, or partially vamps her.
Speaker 3: So maybe you can help explain what you thought was
Speaker 3: going on here. So her plan is to re recruit
Speaker 3: Valdemar to her service, and she's using Karen to do that.
Speaker 3: So she bites Karen, but then the next day Karen
Speaker 3: seems fine during the daytime, what's going on? She like,
Speaker 3: she does have an ominous look in her eye, and
Speaker 3: then we see Bathory returning again the next night to
Speaker 3: bite to bite Karen once again. So I think the
Speaker 3: vamping here is coming in installments, unlike the previous ones
Speaker 3: were just like one bite and now you're a vampire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think maybe like the willing evil soul that
Speaker 1: only takes one dose. But yeah, you know, kay, if
Speaker 1: you're Karen. Karen's a good girl, so it's gonna take
Speaker 1: take a little more finets, you know, like a little
Speaker 1: this night, a little the next night, and kind of
Speaker 1: work up to that that full vampire transformation.
Speaker 3: Now, there was one part here that was really funny,
Speaker 3: and I was hoping it was going in a certain direction,
Speaker 3: but it just it turned out to be a dream sequence.
Speaker 3: But Valdemar is, he's hanging out, and he I think
Speaker 3: imagines Bathory saying like praying to Satan or to some
Speaker 3: other like evil demon saying, my evil Lord, send ninety
Speaker 3: nine black cats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad we did not get ninety nine black cats.
Speaker 3: My brain was immediately going ninety nine black cats, ninety nine,
Speaker 3: fries ninety nine, Tacos ninety nine pies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I was just thinking of the animals.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that many animals in one
Speaker 1: shot in a film of this of this genre in
Speaker 1: time period.
Speaker 3: But so anyway, we're building up to a final confrontation.
Speaker 3: So it's the night of the full moon, which means
Speaker 3: Valdemar will finally be at full power for wolf mode
Speaker 3: to defeat Bathory. But this is also going to be
Speaker 3: the night that Bathory can do the ritual to achieve
Speaker 3: her full power and then she would defeat him. But
Speaker 3: also while he's in wolf mode, he's going to be
Speaker 3: a bloodthirsty monster, so Karen can't be around, so she'll
Speaker 3: have to hide from him and protect herself. And then
Speaker 3: but then after he explains all this and leaves, Karen
Speaker 3: like admires her neck bites in the mirror, but she
Speaker 3: still has a reflection, so I think she is half
Speaker 3: vamped here. Her will has been partially transformed to evil,
Speaker 3: so she seems like, ah, yes, my neck bites, that
Speaker 3: is good. I will betray him. And she's serving Bathory's commands,
Speaker 3: but she can still go out in daytime and she
Speaker 3: still shows up in a mirror, which actually this seems
Speaker 3: like an ideal conversation. She's kind of a day walker here,
Speaker 3: but like an evil day walker. So wouldn't Bathory want
Speaker 3: to keep servants in this state so that you know
Speaker 3: they can do all this instead of making them full vampires.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's it's a tenuous state, and I
Speaker 1: think we see evidence of that, you know, like she's
Speaker 1: she's not fully one side or the other, so we
Speaker 1: don't know which way way it's going to go. But
Speaker 1: also Bathory doesn't know one hundred percent which way she's
Speaker 1: going to go.
Speaker 3: Well, Karen's doing doing what she's told for now, like
Speaker 3: she knocks out Valdemar with a silver cane. He wakes
Speaker 3: up later, he figures out what's going on that that
Speaker 3: she has been half vampired, and then he goes to
Speaker 3: the Vampire Layer, which he knows where it is now.
Speaker 3: For some reason, I don't remember how he discovers that.
Speaker 3: It's like by looking at maps.
Speaker 1: I think something occurred during the research portion of the film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, I know, I know where
Speaker 1: it is, and it's it's just downstairs.
Speaker 3: So we get some stakings of the Lesser Vamps, a
Speaker 3: were wolf transformation and then plenty of werewolf versus vampire wrestling.
Speaker 3: It's a big it's a big wrestling match. At the end,
Speaker 3: more vampires are inadvertently staked when the Wolfman tosses them
Speaker 3: into wooden crates that explode on impact.
Speaker 1: One in particular of these was a really quality kill.
Speaker 1: I really like this. This is a cool effect.
Speaker 3: Bathory tries to force him to obey, you know, there's
Speaker 3: a do as I command you kind of moment, and
Speaker 3: he doesn't. He snarls and drools instead. The Wolfman cannot
Speaker 3: be tamed, so they keep on fighting. There's wrestling, there's
Speaker 3: some telekinesis I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a great scene where she does like a
Speaker 1: telekinetic coffin torpedo attack against Doninsky, where she makes a
Speaker 1: coffin fly at him and it shatters against him. That
Speaker 1: was really nice. So yeah, it seems like an evenly
Speaker 1: matched battle for the most part, because Doninsky is strong
Speaker 1: and fierce and has teeth. But she has teeth too,
Speaker 1: Plus she has these kind of like force powers she's
Speaker 1: able to bust out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So eventually though, he gets the upper hand and he
Speaker 3: bites Bathory and then crams her in her coffin, and
Speaker 3: then the bites on Karen's neck magically disappear, and then
Speaker 3: Bathory speed rots and emids smoke and Karen is okay.
Speaker 3: Now it seems she has healed from her half vampire state.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately, just as he warned, wolf Mode Voldemar can't
Speaker 3: be stopped. He attacks her, and then Karen, just like
Speaker 3: the legend foretold, she stabs him in the heart with
Speaker 3: the silver dagger. I don't know if it's in the heart,
Speaker 3: actually it looks more like it's in the stomach. But
Speaker 3: she frees him from his curse, but he already bit her,
Speaker 3: so I think she's done for as well. And it's
Speaker 3: the classic sad ending that I think it ended almost
Speaker 3: exactly like this in the other Nashi movie we saw
Speaker 3: where they both die, but now his spirit is free,
Speaker 3: the curse has been lifted, and it's and it's sad,
Speaker 3: and we get the classic post mortem regression to human
Speaker 3: morph of the werewolf, and Karen crawls to his side
Speaker 3: to die. It is tragic, but I have to say
Speaker 3: that I liked this, so I wouldn't want to change it.
Speaker 3: But the sense of sadness and tragedy is strongly undercut
Speaker 3: by the fact that it cuts straight back to the
Speaker 3: funk theme from Tentacles, and the screen says, end, yeah.
Speaker 1: That that funk theme from Tentacles too risky a day
Speaker 1: for Regatta. It's both times it's used in the film.
Speaker 1: It is at once out of place and a little
Speaker 1: bit jarring, but also perfect, like I wouldn't go back,
Speaker 1: can replace it with anything, It's just it's a wonderful track.
Speaker 3: So many horror films, especially your generation of postmodern horror films,
Speaker 3: have explored the question of who would win in a
Speaker 3: fight between a vampire and a were wolf. This movie
Speaker 3: sort of answers, well, the werewolf will win, but in
Speaker 3: the end, love conquers all, Love defeats even the wolf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess in many ways, like the werewolf is
Speaker 1: the more passionate and emotional end of the monster spectrum,
Speaker 1: and the vampire is like is the cold hunger you know,
Speaker 1: So you would want the wolf to win out over
Speaker 1: the bat in this scenario, I don't know. For some reason,
Speaker 1: it feels closer to the human experience and more empowering
Speaker 1: of like noble human elements.
Speaker 3: When I say the vampire is somewhere between lawful and
Speaker 3: neutral evil, and the werewolf is somewhere between chaotic evil
Speaker 3: and chaotic neutral.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that with all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like if you were to flip either of them to good,
Speaker 1: you'd still want to be with the werewolf over the vampire,
Speaker 1: because the vampire is just always going to have something
Speaker 1: less trustworthy about them. I don't know, it seems like
Speaker 1: vampire versus werewolf movies that I can think of, like,
Speaker 1: it's always the case the werewolf is the more sympathetic side.
Speaker 1: You're going to side with the lichens over the vamps.
Speaker 1: If there is an example of the opposite out there,
Speaker 1: let us know. I would like to hear about that
Speaker 1: as well. Well.
Speaker 3: It's because the werewolf is still partially human, I think,
Speaker 3: and the vampire is not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also the vampire is more strongly undead, whereas
Speaker 1: the werewolf is still you know, it's more within the
Speaker 1: realm of supernatural mammal at that point.
Speaker 3: And the more I think about it, there's a pretty
Speaker 3: straightforward moral difference in the kind of like violence they do,
Speaker 3: which is that the vampire is a is directly intentionally
Speaker 3: predatorially evil, is just doing harm to other people consciously
Speaker 3: on purpose, whereas the werewolf seems to be like it
Speaker 3: has lost its mind in a way, like it doesn't
Speaker 3: know what it's doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's it exactly now that you
Speaker 1: mention it. The vampire is premeditated. Yeah, and we see
Speaker 1: that with these characters. Like at the very beginning, Doninsky's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess I'm gonna die. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've really thought through it. I'm just heartbroken, whereas Bathory
Speaker 1: is like I will come back, i will raise an
Speaker 1: army of the dead, I'll have my vengeance, and we'll
Speaker 1: bring on a new age of darkness.
Speaker 3: Now, I've got another question about this story. It's clear
Speaker 3: in this version of the story, the historical understanding of
Speaker 3: Bathory is that she was guilty of all the murders,
Speaker 3: like she was a horrible serial killer. I wonder if
Speaker 3: the other historical interpretation could make an interesting movie, like
Speaker 3: she was innocent and wrongly convicted but then comes back
Speaker 3: from the grave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm up for it. I'm up for any kind
Speaker 1: of novel Bathory film. I don't think there are a
Speaker 1: lot of them that are really novel. As I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: I think this one really might be more of an outlier,
Speaker 1: and that it puts more thought into the treatment. All right, well,
Speaker 1: there you have it. Night of the Werewolf from nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty one, pretty solid Nashy film. I think if you've
Speaker 1: never seen a Nashy picture, this one's a pretty good
Speaker 1: introduction to the sort of stuff you get. And it
Speaker 1: also you know, it's not for children by any stretch
Speaker 1: of the imagination, but it's also not too scandalous. So
Speaker 1: I recommend this one, and I recommend the Paul Nashi
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