Speaker 1: This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at
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Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this
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Speaker 1: Let's get down to do it. Good do it. We
Speaker 1: asked the questions you always want to know, but no
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Speaker 1: about it, then we're about to let you know. It's
Speaker 1: all what's going on? What we're about to give you
Speaker 1: a let's just talk about the Carolina Panthers, just talking
Speaker 1: about what's going on here. You know, obviously locally you
Speaker 1: got Baker. We have Baker Mayfield here, and you know
Speaker 1: I was I've been pretty what's the word I'm looking for? Critical? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's use that extremely critical? Um. Critical. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know that has value. We just just wrote with that, um.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm really interested to see with Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic. You saw I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw it. We saw it, but um, I was
Speaker 1: going through the lineup top fifteen, top twenty quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: we missed. We left a few out right. So let's
Speaker 1: let's let's redo it, um, So we're just talking about quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: The ranking is not of uh ranking order of this
Speaker 1: guy's won, this guy's too, not not New America, not
Speaker 1: not New America. Value are saying, I believe if I
Speaker 1: say Aaron Rodgers is number seven, that I believe he's
Speaker 1: number seven. I'm just because this is off the cuff.
Speaker 1: But it's also talking football in a way that we,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we try to do and you can't
Speaker 1: do it necessarily on TV. So let's just name some quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: your top fifteen, top twenty quarterbacks at and and I,
Speaker 1: and let's just I'll entertain you by going down that path.
Speaker 1: But I also talk about some other things that are
Speaker 1: that are pretty funny that I think people don't realize. Right, So, um,
Speaker 1: give me, give me a quarterback. Aaron Rodgers, Okay, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: about you, Joe my homes, my homes okay, Um, Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott because I missed him last time, Okay, Um who else?
Speaker 1: Josh Allen? There you go, Josh Allen okay, say Patty
Speaker 1: Malmes yeah, uh, Justin Herbert all right? Um, car Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford okay, um Stafford? Um, Kylie Murray top yeah not
Speaker 1: not not of you know, it's just kind of name
Speaker 1: a guy seven eight nine, Okay, Lamar Jackson, that is
Speaker 1: all right? What what what? I don't know quarterbacks? This
Speaker 1: is a podcast or someone maybe like Lamar who that
Speaker 1: we madic We had someone to the phone. They made
Speaker 1: the like that. This may be first time listeners, man,
Speaker 1: you know radio aniquette. First time caller. We'll give you
Speaker 1: a T shirt. T shirt first off callers, long time listening. Right,
Speaker 1: first time caller. We've got your online three right? Who else? Uh,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, it's your call, bro, it's not mom. This
Speaker 1: is this you just said it's a podcast. I didn't
Speaker 1: know how it was not the subject matter expert on
Speaker 1: quarterbacks where you don't have yes, go right, Tom Brady
Speaker 1: forgot about that guy. He's okay TV twelve. Let's go
Speaker 1: justin uh not we are Joe Burrow Okay, okay, um,
Speaker 1: let's see um, let's see Lamar, Jake Plumber just messing
Speaker 1: with you. He's doing mushrooms right now. No, he has
Speaker 1: a mushroom farm. I just saw he has a mushroom farm. Now.
Speaker 1: He's doing for restaurants, for psychedelics, street pharmacists. No, he's
Speaker 1: heavy into the fun guy, mushroom, um culture the funniest
Speaker 1: far I consuming. I consume information that randomly. I'm always
Speaker 1: concerned I get the wrong ones on your beats. That'd
Speaker 1: be allowed pizza. The paint is dripping off the walls.
Speaker 1: And I'll take random quarterback college for two hundreds, just
Speaker 1: thrust fun guy? Uh? Who else? So we got a Cowboys? Um, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: would you say, Jimmy Garoppolo? That surgery went? But we
Speaker 1: said top fifteen right, top fifteen, top twin, Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson, got you? Okay? Um, Matt Ryan Carson wentz exactly. Oh,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Yeah, I like Jann Jalen Hurts all right,
Speaker 1: number fifteen. Right, here's the best part. Baker Mayfield. Oh,
Speaker 1: we didn't say Derek Carr. We didn't say Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Derek Carr got you dangerous Russell Wilson. Okay, Uh, here's
Speaker 1: here's here's my point. Sixteen seventeen quarterbacks. Baker Mayfield is
Speaker 1: in that conversation. Now, why am I talking about this?
Speaker 1: Is why am I interested? As a forty Niners fan,
Speaker 1: as a fan of football a lot of times and
Speaker 1: fans regularly a lot of fans at times makes so
Speaker 1: many emotional decisions without statistics, and even as an analyst,
Speaker 1: I sometimes forget that. But what the point I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make is if Baker Mayfield is a top twenty quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: that's outstanding until the Carolina Panthers us Carolina Panthers, we
Speaker 1: have benefited from that. However, one thing that is not
Speaker 1: known is there's twelve other teams that are terrible. Think
Speaker 1: about it, but the bottom line is the emotional thing
Speaker 1: of saying we got a top fifteen, top twenty quarterback,
Speaker 1: you should be a But also, let's dumb it down.
Speaker 1: Hey bro, there's only thirty two teams, so it's really
Speaker 1: not that great other thing unless you are not part
Speaker 1: of the other twelve that are in purgatory toa. How's
Speaker 1: he gonna be? We don't know. He has a plethora
Speaker 1: of athletes, some additions there. He got some additions, But
Speaker 1: do we know can he really throw the football on
Speaker 1: time accurate for four quarters seventeen weeks? I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: His body of working college excellent, his body to work
Speaker 1: in the NFL marginal. My point is saying all of
Speaker 1: this is you could be a top twenty top fifteen,
Speaker 1: top twenty quarterback. But that doesn't necessarily mean that that's
Speaker 1: gonna equal out to success. Absolutely, and sometimes we look
Speaker 1: at statistics. I think statistics are important, but you can't
Speaker 1: have so many. You can't talk about statistics so much
Speaker 1: that we start to analyze and say, well, because Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield is in the top fifteen, or any quarterback is
Speaker 1: in this top fifteen, but would you take Baker over
Speaker 1: TB twelve? No, no, sir, okay, just say no, right
Speaker 1: justin Herbert, Josh Allen, Dak Prescott. My point is that
Speaker 1: we're advancing as a Carolina Panthers with Baker Mayfield, but
Speaker 1: also we have to start looking at what's going on.
Speaker 1: And so for me, looking at this train ends action,
Speaker 1: what the Carolina Panthers have done, I believe it's a
Speaker 1: good move, step in the recreation, step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Outside of Cam Newton, Statistically, the Carolina Panthers in there,
Speaker 1: almost thirty years of being in being a franchise have
Speaker 1: only had a top fifteen quarterback twice. Wow mm hm.
Speaker 1: They've had top running backs, top tight ends, top wide receivers,
Speaker 1: top defense, d N middle linebacker, whale linebacker, sand linebacker, safety, corner,
Speaker 1: but quarterback has not. They have rarely had a top
Speaker 1: quarterback in there exist. Oh that makes my mind start
Speaker 1: spinning because obviously the first question is is why or
Speaker 1: how when you always hear that that's the most important
Speaker 1: position in in in football. Now we all know scheme.
Speaker 1: We've learned a lot from you about you know, who's
Speaker 1: my quarterback, who's my coordinator? When you start looking back
Speaker 1: at the previous ten, fifteen, twenty Super Bowls, you know,
Speaker 1: I can think of Peyton Manning that year. He didn't
Speaker 1: have great stats, but they want because of that defense.
Speaker 1: I can think of Joe Flacco that year. He didn't
Speaker 1: have a great stats, but they want because of that defense.
Speaker 1: Outside of that, it's the top two, three, four, five
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that we would say in the league. And I
Speaker 1: might have missed one or two and I'm not having
Speaker 1: a research department poll. But so you think, if that's
Speaker 1: your quest as a GM or as an owner, as
Speaker 1: a head coach, if that's your quest for thirty years,
Speaker 1: how can whether it's the Panthers or team fill in
Speaker 1: the blank, how can you miss that offense team fill
Speaker 1: in the blank. Here's why, Because we talked about the NFL.
Speaker 1: We talked about the game of inches. Well we also
Speaker 1: need to do us talk about the game of seconds.
Speaker 1: And what do I mean by that? If I if
Speaker 1: I just break down Baker Mayfield versus Sam Donald, I
Speaker 1: don't have the statistic and again this is just randomly talking.
Speaker 1: I would look for how long the quarterback has the
Speaker 1: ball and in the second amount of seconds he takes
Speaker 1: to deliver the ball. Think about this and what I mean,
Speaker 1: And we moved the Baker Mayfield Sam Donald. Let's just
Speaker 1: talk about football in general. If you're a quarterback and
Speaker 1: your your processing system between you know I talked about quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you must confirm where you're going with the ball before.
Speaker 1: Confirm where you're going before the snap of the ball,
Speaker 1: not discover. If you're discovering, it will slow you down.
Speaker 1: If you confirmed, they will do something and you will start.
Speaker 1: Now mark off, Well, I was gonna go to the left,
Speaker 1: but they blitzed or they they did a scheme that
Speaker 1: took away my primary target on the left. So now
Speaker 1: I gotta go to my second primary And it's called progressions.
Speaker 1: He goes through his first progression, second progression. But if
Speaker 1: you are discovering where you're gonna win the snap of
Speaker 1: the ball. They're just safe. For giggles, two two seconds.
Speaker 1: Takes two seconds, but if it takes Tom Brady one
Speaker 1: point seven, that's three tenths of a second. Those three
Speaker 1: tenths of a second do through three things. They result
Speaker 1: into a p BU, a incompletion or completion or a
Speaker 1: pick three tenths of a second. Yeah, and those are
Speaker 1: the things that don't show up on the average fan statue.
Speaker 1: Like they look at a QBR they're looking at a
Speaker 1: completion percentage, but the average person, you know, they're not
Speaker 1: they're not thinking about that or even taking that into consideration.
Speaker 1: So everything you just said, it's almost like it's it's
Speaker 1: stats plus, like what are the whole things when you're
Speaker 1: looking at the quarterback, you know from a fans perspective
Speaker 1: and to your point, like you you just think, oh
Speaker 1: we got a top five, got a top ten, top
Speaker 1: fifth QB, Well that and what else? Because if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, wasn't there like a year of even when
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberg was really good, they still had a bad team, right, Like,
Speaker 1: they weren't that good even though he was still performing
Speaker 1: as a top ten quarterback. The team in totality, wasn't
Speaker 1: that good? Right, So it's it's like that's great. But
Speaker 1: then to you everything you're saying, like but what else? Right? Like?
Speaker 1: What else is part of that story? Well? Part of
Speaker 1: it is the stats that there are so many small
Speaker 1: ancillary stats that are kept, data driven information that are
Speaker 1: kept that your opposing team knows, right, they know on
Speaker 1: third and two on the right hash, here are the
Speaker 1: seven or eight plays that they're gonna run. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: a lot of times when we're saying that it's predictable,
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is it is predictable because
Speaker 1: the formula is predicting what you're gonna do. That the analog,
Speaker 1: the information, the data is there. Now football has become
Speaker 1: not just brute strength, but also intelligence, and not intelligence
Speaker 1: of quarterback play, but intelligence of the people that are
Speaker 1: on the staff. There are people who can't throw a frisbee,
Speaker 1: but they can tell you where you should throw the
Speaker 1: ball in this coverage, at this yard marker, at this moment,
Speaker 1: with the sun ages and all that seven, with the
Speaker 1: with the wind going two point seven miles per hour,
Speaker 1: and and and it's a you know, it's a blue
Speaker 1: moon half moon, right, Just all the those things, and
Speaker 1: football has become so complicated at times that you can
Speaker 1: almost over analyze football. And I think, as I know
Speaker 1: for me, is I have to get back to there's
Speaker 1: times where I am lazy with my words and not
Speaker 1: saying why I dislike. So what are those It sounds
Speaker 1: like you're saying intangibles, and what are those intangibles that
Speaker 1: maybe that either you look for or when you're evaluating
Speaker 1: the quarterback that you should that come top of mind. Well,
Speaker 1: it's all in the last ten years has changed. Right
Speaker 1: when when all of us were in here, when we
Speaker 1: were all playing sports, it was about throwing a deep path?
Speaker 1: Can you throw the gold posts? Can you throw this?
Speaker 1: Can you throw that? Five step drop? Steven step drop?
Speaker 1: Now everything is in the pistol formation. Seventy of the
Speaker 1: time guys are in the pistol formation, right, So that
Speaker 1: limits what kind of run plays you can actually run. No,
Speaker 1: No thirty four wham, no thirty four power right there,
Speaker 1: I believe Eve, going back at my old stats, I
Speaker 1: was looking at something small, ancillary stat. I believe Kansas
Speaker 1: City last year gave the football on third and one
Speaker 1: and fourth and one to their full back nine times.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many times they got that conversion
Speaker 1: on third and one and fourth and one, nine for nine.
Speaker 1: Some stuff still works a good number because they're primarily
Speaker 1: in such a pistol formation. HM and Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 1: so dangerous you have to respect both. Even with the
Speaker 1: running back in there, you can still do a play
Speaker 1: action drop the linebacker. Think and you got Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1: So when I look at the quarterback play, I used
Speaker 1: to look at it as a receiver going make when
Speaker 1: he's on the opposite hash and I'm running a eighteen
Speaker 1: yard comeback. M When I come back to the ball,
Speaker 1: where's the position of ball? Is it low? Is it
Speaker 1: at my numbers? Is it a good spiral? Is it
Speaker 1: starting to waiver? Those are the things right, drop back,
Speaker 1: three steps, five steps, highs, velocity, Does he have arc
Speaker 1: on the ball when releasing it? Does he have pace
Speaker 1: and touch on underneath routes? Those things aren't important anymore
Speaker 1: because they aren't running those routes anymore. In college everything
Speaker 1: is look at it, Look at the screen, look at
Speaker 1: the picture on the sideline. Right there's man, there's teams,
Speaker 1: and there's guys right now in the National Football League
Speaker 1: or guys that played in college playbook was as stick
Speaker 1: as a first grade reading book twenty plays. So is
Speaker 1: that helping I be? Even's hurting And that's why, that's
Speaker 1: why the twelve other teams are struggling to fine quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are struggling fine important pieces because you really don't know
Speaker 1: what you have until you get him in a building.
Speaker 1: You don't know what his intangibles are. You don't know
Speaker 1: if he has a reading disability. You don't know if
Speaker 1: he has a process disability. And I'm saying all these
Speaker 1: things because if you are only taught right in college,
Speaker 1: I was in the number system, got to the number system.
Speaker 1: It was as a post six. You know, an end
Speaker 1: route by the tight end. But sometimes the tight end
Speaker 1: number system was different than the wide receivers or seven.
Speaker 1: So you've got two sevens right, so you've got two
Speaker 1: sevens corner routes and the tight ends work in the middle. Man.
Speaker 1: Now I came in the league, it was max want
Speaker 1: uh max one thirty six choy x D curl or
Speaker 1: want uh I write zip o recircle O was an
Speaker 1: out by the number by the outside wire receiver inside
Speaker 1: right receiver run a corner ola like a flag um
Speaker 1: and then you had other routes where hunt street circle
Speaker 1: or lay where a hunt hitch under streak on the
Speaker 1: other side hitch in the circle. Sometimes one word told
Speaker 1: everybody what to do. Sometimes numbers, but it all varies,
Speaker 1: so you're not really sure. It took me a long time.
Speaker 1: Great example of a guy who I believe got a
Speaker 1: rough a rough time in the NFL that wasn't his
Speaker 1: problem is a kid named Jason Campbell played at Auburn.
Speaker 1: Jason Campbell got drafted I believe by the forty Niners
Speaker 1: or no, Washington got drafted by. So he played with
Speaker 1: UH with Auburn drafted by Washington played with the forty
Speaker 1: Niners as well. But think about this. Jason played maybe
Speaker 1: how many years, ten years, like ten or twelve years,
Speaker 1: nine years, and damn near had a new office coordinator
Speaker 1: every year and including college. Think about it. We had
Speaker 1: his teammate on Rnny Brown. Think about that. Think about
Speaker 1: as soon as you get this offense, you gotta switch.
Speaker 1: How difficult would that be. Let's dumb this down. If
Speaker 1: I'm working at a restaurant and we're making hot dogs
Speaker 1: for the winner and we're about to start a new menu,
Speaker 1: and then we changed the whole our self of the
Speaker 1: restaurant that's difficult. Can start all over. You gotta start
Speaker 1: all over, especially if you don't even know how to
Speaker 1: make the food. Everybody knows how to make a hot dog.
Speaker 1: You just throw it them some water right now. If
Speaker 1: you don't, I don't know how to operate your stoven.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem in itself. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're going from making hot dogs, so now you make
Speaker 1: a Mediterranean food with no passport, which means you've never
Speaker 1: been there, you never experienced it. Those Those are the
Speaker 1: things that fans don't understand some of these players are
Speaker 1: dealing with. And I understand that people don't care. You shouldn't,
Speaker 1: but it's also part of what's going on. I love
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Speaker 1: to a podcast dot com. I can tell you right now,
Speaker 1: I think Baker's gonna win that win that competition. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that right now. You know, why is that?
Speaker 1: Because he's he's experienced adversity, right, and he's overcame it.
Speaker 1: I would I would say Sam hasn't overcome his adversity yet.
Speaker 1: Why do you say that? Have you not been watching?
Speaker 1: Just I'm just I'm just asking. I'm get in context,
Speaker 1: so good, But he's at he's he's at because you
Speaker 1: can you can argue that he's had adversity. I don't know,
Speaker 1: and is it? Will he get over the hump? I
Speaker 1: don't mean, we just don't know. When Sam has gotten
Speaker 1: rushed in the game. Does he look comfortable? No, I
Speaker 1: know never no quarterback. Every looks comfortable under Durest, But
Speaker 1: Sam seems to make bigger, bigger mistakes under Durest. Baker's
Speaker 1: makes everybody makes mistakes under the rest. But Baker has
Speaker 1: shown us that he can still win under the rest.
Speaker 1: Now that offense, what I'm interested in seeing is how
Speaker 1: Baker handles that offense and what Ben mcadoo's offense is
Speaker 1: compared to coach Stefanski because the coach, Coach Stefanski's offense
Speaker 1: is built on play action, which is down the field
Speaker 1: and the running game. That's you can argue that with
Speaker 1: Baker right like he's at a he's at a strong
Speaker 1: running he's at a strong running game. That affects your
Speaker 1: offense right, Yes, opens up the play action, yes, And
Speaker 1: that's the way this office is. The Kirk Cousins has
Speaker 1: played under this offense, which he's behind on Tom Brady
Speaker 1: as far as completions down the field, justin Jefferson is
Speaker 1: developing at an extraordinary pace. Adam thieling this offense, Clint Kubiak,
Speaker 1: which is that uh uh uh Kubiak as well. And
Speaker 1: then you have Kyle Shannihan who's had it's been under
Speaker 1: this offense under Kubiak in Tennessee. I'm not not Tennessee Houston.
Speaker 1: So he goes to forty nine Hackett. He's gonna bring
Speaker 1: this kind of type of offense to the Broncos. The
Speaker 1: Jets now are trying to get that offense because of
Speaker 1: uh la Flour's Matt Lafore's brother La floor. That's with
Speaker 1: the Jackson and obviously Green Bay. You see how they
Speaker 1: had tried to have that two headed monster running the ball, right,
Speaker 1: So running the ball is efficient. But the question now
Speaker 1: is gonna be can Christian McCaffrey stay healthy. When healthy,
Speaker 1: he's one of the best. But the problem with Christian
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily because he can't play. He could play, And
Speaker 1: they're saying that we're gonna monitor his his workload. I
Speaker 1: think that's excellent in practice. He doesn't get hurt in practice.
Speaker 1: It's actually in the game. So how do you monitor
Speaker 1: the workload? Win? Most of the time. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: get two carries or twenty two touches or the ball,
Speaker 1: it's a completely different offense. And that's kind of where
Speaker 1: I'm going with stats plus right, like what what what else? Right?
Speaker 1: Because there's other factors. The underlying factor is the health
Speaker 1: of Christian McCaffrey. Right, So it's great if if if
Speaker 1: Baker is a top fifteen quarterback, and I hope that
Speaker 1: he's going to be a top fifteen quarterback, But what
Speaker 1: else happens if Chris McCaffrey gets hurt, if all the
Speaker 1: other things, if the defense doesn't continue to take the
Speaker 1: steps forward that we know that they have or the
Speaker 1: old line doesn't does it. So there are other things
Speaker 1: that you know. Just for me, I'm not looking at
Speaker 1: we got we got Baker Mayfield and we're there, Like,
Speaker 1: there's other things that still have to happen. I'm concerned
Speaker 1: about the defense because they're top top five defense. I
Speaker 1: think they're all second overall. But how many times did
Speaker 1: they play and get warned down because they they can't
Speaker 1: get off the field because because the offense is making
Speaker 1: them soon as they get off the field, the office
Speaker 1: is making them get back on the field. So it's counterintuitive,
Speaker 1: like you got three phases in football, but only one
Speaker 1: phase is strong and another tour struggling. Right, So there's
Speaker 1: just a number of other things. Can they can they
Speaker 1: rush the pastor like we want them to be able? Well,
Speaker 1: Russian and Passenger is gonna be interesting because Hassan Radi
Speaker 1: is right, your your Hasan was a really good three four.
Speaker 1: You're running a hybrid for three, right, but you have
Speaker 1: the players who actually are four three type. If you
Speaker 1: watch Derek Brown in college, looking at this offense a
Speaker 1: three four type of defense, you want ladder of movement. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that's what you want out of your three four. You
Speaker 1: want your guy, your your three technique or your A
Speaker 1: or B gap clogger tackles, your tackles. You want them
Speaker 1: to move latterly to clogged up things. The problem with
Speaker 1: that is, Derek Brown is a dump truck. Do you
Speaker 1: know what a dump truck does? It goes forward and backwards.
Speaker 1: It does not go ladder. You ever seen a dump
Speaker 1: truck try to do a flipping you? Have you ever
Speaker 1: seen a dump truck do that? Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: a dump truck do a ten point turn? They never
Speaker 1: I've never seen a dump truck to a three point turn.
Speaker 1: It's always like a ten point big boo boo. It's
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's a lot in that caboose. I'm not
Speaker 1: comment on another man's boost, No, no, I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about the trash. And it's so much and and so
Speaker 1: you're saying, what are you getting on? Why do you
Speaker 1: think that? Steve? Think about how excellent KK Short was
Speaker 1: in his defense, and look how his numbers declined and
Speaker 1: the injury started mounting up when he lost his partner,
Speaker 1: cried star Star was the dump truck which allowed people
Speaker 1: had to handle this big old man, mammoth of a
Speaker 1: man with a double team. So allowed KK who was athletic,
Speaker 1: to use his athleticism and finesse. And that was that
Speaker 1: effect on the entire defense. Now that frees up your nonebackers.
Speaker 1: Now we can roam, Now we can make makes it
Speaker 1: makes lu Kickley tackle. It makes it makes Luke Kickley
Speaker 1: is tackling the running back not seven yards down the field,
Speaker 1: They're literally meeting at the line of scripts and all
Speaker 1: but all of those things factory. So you have Derek
Speaker 1: Brown all of a sudden, who was a top five pick,
Speaker 1: who was killing people. I mean he was. I hopped.
Speaker 1: Ain't got nothing on this man. Denny's all the the
Speaker 1: the what what's that? I hopped? Um pancakes, slams and
Speaker 1: waffle house, you name it, Roscoe's chicken waffle. That man
Speaker 1: had all the syrup on the pancakes. Excellent. He gets Carolina.
Speaker 1: They wanted to then out, they want to they play
Speaker 1: in the hybrid three three four? Why do you and that?
Speaker 1: My friend trained. This sends me into why sometimes players
Speaker 1: get lost. They're dominant in college, but they get lost
Speaker 1: in the shuffle in college in the pros because in
Speaker 1: college you can draft, you can sign a five star
Speaker 1: and switch him. Great example you ever heard of, Uh
Speaker 1: you ever heard Dwayne Johnson the Rock talk about how
Speaker 1: his senior year he was starting and there was a
Speaker 1: former tight end that took his job. Just a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame name warrant. Yeah, think about it. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: in college you can manipulate and do stuff. Guys play
Speaker 1: quarterback here and now they're playing wide receiver, wide receiver.
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, Richard Sherman playing wide receiver, college play receiver.
Speaker 1: Now he's a quarterback Kent State. All the different things.
Speaker 1: Randall will take it back, but it all changes in
Speaker 1: the various correct and it does not always equal to success.
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, what's being asked to me right now? And
Speaker 1: and and so when I look at this team and
Speaker 1: look at this division in the NFC South, you gotta
Speaker 1: say that right now, on paper, who's the best position
Speaker 1: team to run the South? Right now? Outside of Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay because of Tom I guess Jamis in New Orleans
Speaker 1: is still yet to be proven. But if you look
Speaker 1: at his weapons, he has but see that, I love
Speaker 1: that you said that. You look at his weapons. But
Speaker 1: now the question is was it the offensive coordinator or
Speaker 1: was it Sean Pell The only reason I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: the same just yet because because you don't know how
Speaker 1: Jamie Winton is going to bounce back. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: as an injury. Was the reverbula Payton being gone? Yes?
Speaker 1: What is gonna happen when Peyton? When now Dennis Allen
Speaker 1: who prior to becoming the head coach, he didn't have
Speaker 1: success as a head coach prior to that? Right with
Speaker 1: the I think it was the Oakland Oakland Raiders. Let
Speaker 1: it you know whether it is or it isn't. His
Speaker 1: hands were tied. But we all know when you accept
Speaker 1: the head coaching job, you receive all the praise that
Speaker 1: you do well, and then you get all of you
Speaker 1: get all the nonsense. What is that offense gonna look like?
Speaker 1: How is Michael Thomas gonna be able to hold up
Speaker 1: a whole year? Chris Aliva, He's gonna have a transitional Uh,
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be dead in water, but he's going
Speaker 1: to He's gonna have to learn the NFL game, and
Speaker 1: what I say, learned the NFL game to play at
Speaker 1: the expectation and at the level we've seen him impact
Speaker 1: the game immediately like he did Ohio State. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: seems like it's a lot of things that are in
Speaker 1: transit in the NFC cell. And then we got to
Speaker 1: go down right there the Battle of the Falcons. What
Speaker 1: is Marcus Mariota gonna do? Ye? You talked about turning
Speaker 1: the whole new page right like they've had years in
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. All of a sudden you got Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 1: You still got kind of pit selling in. You got
Speaker 1: he got him selling in this big tight end wide receiver.
Speaker 1: You lost Calvin Ridley, who's gonna step up? T J. A. J. Terrell,
Speaker 1: dynamic draft pick who's doing excellent, But they've lost some
Speaker 1: guys on defense. What is this team gonna really look
Speaker 1: like when their backs are against the wall now that
Speaker 1: they have a quarterback? Or the transition? And who's the leader? There?
Speaker 1: Great question who's the leader right like it's been Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan or whether whether he's been playing well, have been
Speaker 1: playing down like you know, he was the unquestioned leader
Speaker 1: of that team. Who is that now? And I say
Speaker 1: they opened in I have no idea, don't know either.
Speaker 1: I don't know either. It's a great question, you know,
Speaker 1: going back to a come minutes ago when you're talking
Speaker 1: about Baker or Sam, and you feel that Baker could
Speaker 1: secure that starting position over Sam. So you start looking
Speaker 1: at other dynamics in there. I mean, you look at
Speaker 1: the coaching regime, who of course on the hot seat
Speaker 1: not on the hot seat. So they're going they're going
Speaker 1: to like, yo, I gotta put the best guy for
Speaker 1: for for my stability to be with this organization out there.
Speaker 1: And then there's a financial play. You know, you we're
Speaker 1: paying Sam roughly eighteen nineteen, I think the Baker contract
Speaker 1: comes in. The Panthers are picking up five or six million,
Speaker 1: So you always hear about what we paid that money.
Speaker 1: We gotta play them, so you do have to. You
Speaker 1: most of the time you have to. You're paying somebody
Speaker 1: you playing. But one of the interesting things that is
Speaker 1: going on in the National Football League right down and
Speaker 1: you're gonna see it in this trend what we what
Speaker 1: you're seeing the National Football League with young players, especially
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, running backs, while receiver. Mainly with quarterbacks I believe,
Speaker 1: but they're paying these young guys early. But they're also
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, they're pretending that they don't see the deficiencies
Speaker 1: and extending them mhmm. Let me give you an example.
Speaker 1: We give Baker. The Cleveland Browns sign Baker's fifth year option,
Speaker 1: picked it up, picked it up, so eighteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers picked up Sam's for eighteen or fifteen
Speaker 1: million dollars. We are fully committed, we're gonna extend you.
Speaker 1: And the Cleveland brown said, we're gonna extend you. We're
Speaker 1: gonna give you Baker two nickels a rub together, but
Speaker 1: we're about to give Deshaun Wasser a quarter of a
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Think about that, Hey, Carolina Panthers, Bak Sam,
Speaker 1: We're gonna stay your eighteen million dollars, but we're looking
Speaker 1: for somebody else right now. Think about it. Very confusing
Speaker 1: because quarterback play is so tough. It is extremely hard
Speaker 1: to find a franchise quarterback. It seems like you either
Speaker 1: got it or you don't. Yes, but there's but there's
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of hidden reasons why.
Speaker 1: Because you can watch a kid playing college, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna be successful. Yeah, you can also see
Speaker 1: a guy who possibly just played okay in college because
Speaker 1: maybe the coaching staff or maybe the offense didn't really
Speaker 1: play to his strengths and maybe even still look put
Speaker 1: up numbers because I even thinking, even going back to
Speaker 1: what you're saying about system, like, guys are still putting
Speaker 1: up numbers and whatever. But does that mean when you
Speaker 1: get to the league, does that translate to success. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting, It's gonna be But I noticed you
Speaker 1: guys said when I said that extending, They pretend and
Speaker 1: extend and it's it's mind boggling. But what's gonna start
Speaker 1: to happen is guys are getting extended, but teams are
Speaker 1: getting rid of them immediately after they figure out doesn't
Speaker 1: have it. Yeah, talking about the two guys Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: picked up, former first round draft picks who didn't who
Speaker 1: didn't play well in their respect the teams and it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily their fault. But the question now is going
Speaker 1: to be what happened at their previous locations that contribute
Speaker 1: to them not performing well. Mr Bisky talk to you
Speaker 1: when they said Mr. Bisky lost his confidence earlier. My
Speaker 1: question is is he gonna get it back because we
Speaker 1: haven't seen him playing a football game to say that
Speaker 1: he is a starting quarterback for the pit first, like
Speaker 1: your ship, they're going, man, Oh they got Mitch. Why not?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure? Good do it, Good do it. Let's
Speaker 1: getting down to do it. Do it? Hey, Gerard, why
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Speaker 1: buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. Going back to bring it back to
Speaker 1: Carolina and Baker and Sam. As Baker comes into Charlotte,
Speaker 1: it's prepared to be a Carolina panther. From your LANs,
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying from a quarterback perspective, but from
Speaker 1: your leans, what should he look to do, maybe not
Speaker 1: even just to win over this city, but to win
Speaker 1: that locker room to what? What are what are the
Speaker 1: things that I love that question? I really believe he
Speaker 1: first of all, stopped trying to win over the locker room.
Speaker 1: Just do your job. That question is presented to a
Speaker 1: lot of players, a lot of talk. How do you
Speaker 1: win over the locker room? Winning covers all sins multitude
Speaker 1: of sins. Yeah, but if you come in trying to
Speaker 1: prove other than it prove other than you can play,
Speaker 1: you're gonna rub people the wrong way. It's I think,
Speaker 1: especially when you already have that tag on you, that
Speaker 1: you may be a problem in the locker room. Whether
Speaker 1: it's it's the narrative right now. People could say whatever
Speaker 1: they want of how the Browns handled the situation, but
Speaker 1: think about this. They paid another man more money than
Speaker 1: they would pay you. Obviously there was something there that
Speaker 1: just the Browns just didn't want to tolerate. What is it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not my job to really know,
Speaker 1: but I tell you whose job it is to know
Speaker 1: Bakers because I do believe he's at a pivotal point
Speaker 1: in his career. The Cleveland Browns ran him out of town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was even asking, more so because I was
Speaker 1: around you when you when you had to go to Baltimore.
Speaker 1: And to your point, I don't necessarily why I said.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you had to win, because I don't
Speaker 1: think you went to Baltimore trying to win that locker
Speaker 1: You win, and I know, because I know this, you
Speaker 1: went to the back of the receiver's line and earned it.
Speaker 1: So I'm even thinking from us from a standpoint of
Speaker 1: Baker's been in the league now what five years into
Speaker 1: his fifth year, and so you're not with it, You're
Speaker 1: no longer a rookie, You're now, You're not You're you're
Speaker 1: older now. So now being that you were further along
Speaker 1: in your career, but going into a different locker room,
Speaker 1: what were those steps? And like that, That's why I
Speaker 1: want to say, like not the cliche, how do you
Speaker 1: win over the locker room? What are the things to
Speaker 1: where you impart yourself within? That is a such that
Speaker 1: is a complicated answer because Baltimore has such a long
Speaker 1: standing as a culture culture that we can really say,
Speaker 1: right now, what is the culture of the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: That's a great question. That is a great question that
Speaker 1: I don't have answer to, and I don't know who does.
Speaker 1: Do you when you think of Carolina Panthers of the
Speaker 1: two team? Do you say winners? I just feel like
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just going down the checklist of things.
Speaker 1: Do you say physical, intimidating at times, defensively but overall No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about overall overall. No. Some people would say
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit disorganized, yes, dysfunctional, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't here. I don't think the team has an
Speaker 1: identity at all. That's what and that's why. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you cannot come in and try to win
Speaker 1: a locker room over and we don't even know what
Speaker 1: this team is. What do you win? What are you
Speaker 1: winning over? Are you winning over the balloon team? Like
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know what you're winning over because
Speaker 1: you're you're plugging it. I guess where you're gonna With Baltimore.
Speaker 1: You were plugging into something that already established, that was
Speaker 1: already plugging into the culture, right I was. That was
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that it was a treat a
Speaker 1: very intriguing opportunity because they had an identity, they had
Speaker 1: a culture, and I wasn't bringing I wasn't bringing something.
Speaker 1: It was do you fit our culture correct? Can you
Speaker 1: adhere to our expectations? And when they when you have
Speaker 1: a team that has identity and when they bring you
Speaker 1: into free agency or in trade, they talked to you
Speaker 1: to see does this guy align with us? And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, right now, I don't know. You don't know
Speaker 1: because we don't know what ours is because it hasn't
Speaker 1: been established. It hasn't. They're doing a lot of great
Speaker 1: things up there, but they're not equaling enough to wins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's the toughest part being the hometown fair. But
Speaker 1: we're so thirsty and hungry for success that I noticed
Speaker 1: nobody's paying attention. We got the number one and number
Speaker 1: who got the two, number three overall number number one,
Speaker 1: number three quarterbacks overall picks a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: And they're both on our team, right, and we're hoping
Speaker 1: we get something when we get somethings together. I hope
Speaker 1: I grow. I hope I go I help grow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's it's it goes that if that was it
Speaker 1: plays into the culture, right, like how have we gotten
Speaker 1: to this point? Like the years before Caddy Cardiac Cats
Speaker 1: right with Cam Newton was there? Uh the swagger? Right?
Speaker 1: M hm, Luke Key, Luke Brad Hoover, Reggie White, help Jake,
Speaker 1: you knew what you were? Moose you write me just
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about all these different identities. Yeah, you knew.
Speaker 1: Now when I look at this team, what I what
Speaker 1: is the identity? We know it's we know it's Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: If he's healthy again. It goes there's so many different
Speaker 1: variables that we don't know yet, and that that type
Speaker 1: of football, think about it, Think about that that type
Speaker 1: of football or that type of investment. Take take that
Speaker 1: and put that on the PLL sheet and hand it
Speaker 1: to your investors. Who's going to invest I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 1: if we notice that, then everybody else noticed that too.
Speaker 1: When the team pulls up, when the defensive coordinator knows
Speaker 1: that too, then they don't have an identity right, So
Speaker 1: it's it plays into everything. I'm just gonna be man,
Speaker 1: I'm excited, But these are so many things that I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about. These are so many things that I need
Speaker 1: to do an extremely better job at at at processing
Speaker 1: and going through versus oh, when I played, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm trying to really get rid of when
Speaker 1: I played and start looking at the business of football
Speaker 1: is the business of each team operating in good faith
Speaker 1: that gives the fans complete comfort and security. And right
Speaker 1: now the Carolina Panthers fan base, they're struggling for that security.
Speaker 1: But I believe Baker signing Baker, allowing those two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: to to to dool it out, but then also too,
Speaker 1: how different is Ben mcadoo's offense gonna vary from Joe
Speaker 1: Brady's I'm I'm I'm intrigued to see. It's gonna a
Speaker 1: showdown in Spartan bird in which probably the Carolina Panthers
Speaker 1: haven't had a very long time. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: key battles, a lot of things, keep eye on, and
Speaker 1: you can tell they also making a concentrated effort to
Speaker 1: try to get better. They are. But you know, you
Speaker 1: can make a concentrated effort and be working with some
Speaker 1: crystal light. That don't mean that's gonna be good effort,
Speaker 1: that's all. Sometimes effort ain't always good. No, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Sometimes you gotta have some good tangible things.
Speaker 1: And you're over there to man, we got some good juice. Man,
Speaker 1: that's crystal light. Bro. That's I'm I'm. I'm fixated on
Speaker 1: crystal because I when I was a kid, I got
Speaker 1: I went over to one of my um non African
Speaker 1: American friends house and they had some. They said it
Speaker 1: was a kool Aid. That's my palate. It was ready
Speaker 1: for cool. At least have flavor aid. My flavor was
Speaker 1: at least at least is a good substitute. Crystal light
Speaker 1: is no man, my palette was waiting for some kool Aid.
Speaker 1: What what I got? What's the water down water? I
Speaker 1: don't know that I ever had sin. I've never had
Speaker 1: Crystal Like brought this section brought to you by Crystal Likes.
Speaker 1: They only had two flavors like pink lemonade, lemonade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why do you know, Joe? Why do you know? Joe Man?
Speaker 1: Lemonade and lemonade. That was the truth, you know, Huh
Speaker 1: time country time is good. Now, country time is good.
Speaker 1: Like a d seven grams of sugar per serving. It
Speaker 1: was a point. Man, Hey, one time my dad man
Speaker 1: I used to put the dude used to put like
Speaker 1: real oranges or lemons in it. That was give a
Speaker 1: little flavor. Trinking some polp up in there, tricking you,
Speaker 1: so you know, and some of them talking about ten
Speaker 1: percent fruit juice man squeezing. Well, listen, this has been awesome. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's been awesome podcasts just be able to talk about
Speaker 1: the home team but also talk about football in general. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, seasons coming up, training camps, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of battles obviously here in Carolina, Baker versus Sam,
Speaker 1: Sam versus Baker, but also too is um just tells
Speaker 1: you how complicated and how interesting football is. So I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoy it. Um the warning this isn't about
Speaker 1: it say isn't me back You know people say um, backpelling,
Speaker 1: but more it's it's less of backpelling, more just watching
Speaker 1: and listening and going okay, let me explain, let me
Speaker 1: go long version. Why you know that's sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to do on television because it's, you know,
Speaker 1: two men a segment, and you've got four people on there,
Speaker 1: so everybody gets thirty five seconds. Well, and the beauty
Speaker 1: of it is us and everybody else out there. For preseason,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in the booth, so you're gonna get
Speaker 1: to be able to see that battle unfold, and from
Speaker 1: an analytical perspective, you're gonna be able to dive down
Speaker 1: in and see where that battle is going. So that's
Speaker 1: one of the cool things that you get to do. Already,
Speaker 1: No I I again, I like saying I think he's
Speaker 1: a good kid. I already know. Plus Sam's from California.
Speaker 1: You went to USC rooting form. You never want to
Speaker 1: see a man really who has such promise kind of
Speaker 1: Falter right. He had a disadvantage going to the Jets.
Speaker 1: Then he comes here and you hope things are better,
Speaker 1: but things weren't better. So be interested, interested to see
Speaker 1: how handles this adversity. You know, they say competition breeds
Speaker 1: the best. Sometimes it always does, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it reveals things of who you are. M Yeah, so
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