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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio bringing you

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Speaker 1: now your hosts, Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: It's mid October and that means the lull is singing

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Speaker 2: you a sweet lullaby to sleep?

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Speaker 3: Or is it?

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Speaker 2: If you know where the deer are and you have

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Speaker 2: the right hole front, it could be absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 4: This is rough Bresh, let's go. This isrough.

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Speaker 2: Fresh Radio brought you a first Light gear. This Casey

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Speaker 2: Smith and my ben amigo, Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing? Man?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Just try a little myself to sleep and get a

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Speaker 5: little little The right leg is just shaking the bed

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Speaker 5: that I'm laying on, Yeah, so that I can rock.

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Speaker 3: Myself to sleep.

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Speaker 2: You kind of like it, just a little grasshoppers of

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Speaker 2: rubbing them legs's going to sleep?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Did you just call me cricket Jones?

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Speaker 4: Old cricket Jones?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: That probably because you jumped high. That's why they called

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Speaker 4: you that.

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Speaker 3: No, I see the play guitar.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that correlates because crickets are percussionists,

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Speaker 2: is that one? Yeah, they play stringing a I see,

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Speaker 2: I see, I see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well I hear you had a very swell lunch. Did

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Speaker 2: you happen to get a dessert as well?

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Speaker 3: Swell is what my belly is doing right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I chicken, fried steaks, mashed potatoes, and uh, I'm feeling

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Speaker 5: like I need an after right now, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 5: midday between hunts, kind of warm, you know, feeling like

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Speaker 5: an old buck just want to down.

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Speaker 4: That's it, man.

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Speaker 2: I think that if we want to really understand dearing

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Speaker 2: a deeper level, we should just look within and just

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Speaker 2: think about what it's like whenever we're satisfied, you know,

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Speaker 2: or what it is that we need, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: have a better idea about it.

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Speaker 3: You know. That's right, man, basic need you know, that's right.

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Speaker 4: It needs I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You don't need that new Matthew's bow.

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Speaker 2: No, maybe you do, Maybe you might well if you

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Speaker 2: don't know, people don't. Yeah, Yeah, that's it man. You

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Speaker 2: don't need to go hunting, but you just might want to,

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Speaker 2: you know, I want to.

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Speaker 3: You know, you need some water every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I need some bad you know, I'm up here

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Speaker 2: doing a little do your scouting, and when I say up,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna just remain ambiguous.

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Speaker 3: But let's go man Canada.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I'm in the country where they got crops and

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Speaker 2: one of them crops is milo and I'm pretty allergic

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Speaker 2: to that stuff. So I got me a little sinus

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Speaker 2: infection going that I think is the result of allergies,

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Speaker 2: or I got allergies compounding compounding upon something.

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Speaker 4: It's already there. So if I sound weird, that's why.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna try to remain sniffless while we're on

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Speaker 2: this phone.

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Speaker 4: Without sniffle, that's what I'm gonna have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nontrumissible.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry. You get a little hunt right now yourself.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Yeah, yeah, I've been hunting.

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Speaker 5: I've been hunting a little different deer than most people

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Speaker 5: are used to hunting.

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Speaker 7: You know, people hunt these kind of some kind of

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Speaker 7: a little we'll leave at that, and then, uh, once

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Speaker 7: you conclude that hunt next week, we'll get a we'll

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Speaker 7: get a wrap on that and figure out exactly what's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So you know, I'm just waiting. I'm waiting to

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Speaker 5: hunt white tails until you know the October lull is better.

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Speaker 2: I mean, man, if I was you, I was just

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Speaker 2: crawl in a hole and lower yourself to sleep until

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Speaker 2: the loll's over.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm thinking about doing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all by until then, and then when the has

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 2: Tell me, in general, what do you think about the

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Speaker 2: October lowl, because it's gonna be a big topic of

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think, generally speaking, I don't just love the

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Speaker 3: concept of the October.

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Speaker 2: Loll because it's not fun, or because you don't really

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Speaker 2: think it's a real thing.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you know, I think it. I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: But interesting.

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Speaker 5: There's some new info to me that is making it

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Speaker 4: What's that?

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Speaker 5: Uh, it's basically a lack of trail camera data, So

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Speaker 5: I guess you'd say lack of into Yeah. We put

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Speaker 5: some trail cameras out in some different areas and across

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Speaker 5: the US, and they have been very quiet the.

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Speaker 3: Last week two days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I've seen this, Yeah for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It seems like sometime around October fourth, we had a

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Speaker 2: daylight walker in the Midwest, a shooter is a big

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Speaker 2: ten point. And then since then it's kind of been

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Speaker 2: just all silent on the home front out there.

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Speaker 3: So why do they why do they stop.

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Speaker 5: Daylight walking or period walking period on our cameras.

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Speaker 2: I fan or six, I don't know for sure. I

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Speaker 2: got some thoughts. I think it's all environmental factors. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's every it's like a I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's a hormonal thing too much.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's like, well, maybe you might could

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Speaker 2: That it's not the rut where their bodies are telling them, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's time to get up and do stuff, you know,

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Speaker 2: chase dose and and you know, uh, spread your genes,

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Speaker 2: as they would say. But it's kind of the inverse

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Speaker 2: of that that that drive isn't there yet, and so

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Speaker 2: deer just don't moving around very much right now.

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Speaker 4: They have a lot of reason to.

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Speaker 2: They're just eating, hanging out, rubbing a little bit here

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Speaker 2: and there, you know, and they just don't do a

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Speaker 2: other like environmental factors, like right now it's blazing hot,

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Speaker 2: and I don't really like to get.

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Speaker 4: Out there middle of the day, neither of the deer right.

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Speaker 2: And then across the country there are two types of

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Speaker 2: nuts falling from a tree. In the south there's an

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Speaker 2: acron falling from the tree, and in the north there's

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Speaker 2: an acorn falling from the tree.

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Speaker 3: And I thought you were gonna say whites and reds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that deciduous deciduous.

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Speaker 4: Hard mast is falling currently.

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Speaker 2: And what means that is that that the deer don't

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Speaker 2: have to go very far right, they can kind of

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Speaker 2: just live and chow down on acrons and and stay

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they stay away from our cameras too, they do.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's very odd. Uh huh. You know you

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Speaker 3: had mentioned at one point that you know, had a

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Speaker 5: I think that's something too, you know, I mean these uh,

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Speaker 5: these animals eat all kinds of stuff. They browse a

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Speaker 5: lot of different things throughout the day usually, and uh,

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Speaker 5: even though there's uh a lot of people like to see.

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Speaker 3: You know, they can see it's easy easy for people

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Speaker 3: to see acrons falling and making noise. And you know,

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Speaker 3: when you drive a car over the driveway. You know,

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Speaker 3: you can crunch them all up or whatever. But it's also.

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Speaker 5: You know, the deer can't survive just on aacrants, so

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Speaker 5: you're you know, they have to eat something else. And uh,

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Speaker 5: you know some of that browse and stuff like that

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Speaker 5: that they leaves and different things like that, are you know,

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Speaker 5: still viable and and.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I would have seen tasty as well somewhat.

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Speaker 5: I know, like where we're where we're at, it's you know,

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Speaker 5: it's ninety five degrees.

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Speaker 3: Or you know, with like left up to come up here,

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Speaker 3: it's you know, ninety five degrees, it's hot.

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Speaker 5: Things are dry, dry, and so you know, I don't

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Speaker 5: know how great some of those broad leaves taste, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's uh, they got to eat something different then.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of there's a lot lot of

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Speaker 3: factors that can weigh into that.

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Speaker 5: I think this October old and again the deer, if

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Speaker 5: we're gonna speak in truths, which people don't love a

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Speaker 5: lot these days, the deer don't just fall out of

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Speaker 5: existence or going to another dimension. They uh, they're still

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Speaker 5: on this planet during this time period, so they exist.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere and as hunters for whatever reason, we just don't

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Speaker 5: And it may be something you know, back to like

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Speaker 5: our biology or whatever.

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Speaker 3: There's something about the way that humans.

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Speaker 5: Kind of go about their day or operate or whatever

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Speaker 5: that we're just not ready to get to find them

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, yeah, and so we just put a name on

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Speaker 2: it and call it the October roll and really it's us, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just can't.

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Speaker 4: Really figure out how to how to find them.

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Speaker 2: It's probably I mean, this is one of the hardest

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Speaker 2: times a year to find a deer. I don't I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't have a deer right now that I'd feel

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Speaker 4: And hunting, you know. So, uh, it's it's difficult for sure.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the sense of it being a mystical thing,

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Speaker 2: it's not that. But it is a difficult time of

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Speaker 2: year to find a dear. But if you know where

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Speaker 2: they're at, if you if you got a good beat

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Speaker 2: on one, you can probably still find even getting killed.

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Speaker 5: But why would you how would you if you were

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Speaker 5: to give a tip on how to find a deer

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Speaker 5: during the during the quote unquote roll, what would you say?

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Speaker 4: I would say It's tough.

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Speaker 2: I would say I I would look for extremely fresh

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Speaker 2: rubs and thick betting, and I would just that. I

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Speaker 2: would just get the tree. I'd climb up about eighteen

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Speaker 2: feet high and that would fold my hands together and

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Speaker 2: I would pray about it. Maybe you might see one

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Speaker 2: if that happens. It's difficult, but that's my that's my take.

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Speaker 2: I think that the freshest sign is going to put

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Speaker 2: you the closest to the deer, and you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to be within one hundred yards of him on an

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Speaker 2: evening to feel like you got a shot.

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Speaker 4: Right now, I think.

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Speaker 2: You know that's that's not the truth everywhere on everything,

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Speaker 2: but in general, that would be That would be my take.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think, Tyler. This is a difficult time

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Speaker 2: of year, but what fallows it.

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Speaker 3: Up well pre right and right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, And so what is effectually known as scrape

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Speaker 2: week sometimes scrape week.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people call call this next week or

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Speaker 5: So I mean this this next week things can really

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Speaker 5: Otherwise just maybe don't hunt until you know for sure

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Speaker 3: Just hold off just a little bit longer.

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Speaker 4: That's it, man.

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Speaker 2: That's that is some good advice, right there, sir. You

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Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I do know that our guests this week are pretty

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Speaker 3: Let the people know who the guests are well.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, well a Goo Jake Hofer in Illinois

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Speaker 4: He's looking for to the cold front, hunting some public land.

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Speaker 2: Michael Stole, the Element's own Michael Stole has been in

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Speaker 4: He's got some info there as well.

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Speaker 2: And then we're gonna wrap it up with Jimmy Shyri

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Speaker 4: So I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I think I should give this disclaimer though, Guys, if

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Speaker 2: maybe I should take a step back. This is the week. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not telling you don't go hunting. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: what Tyler said, right, dude, Yeah, yeah, you.

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Speaker 5: Don't wanna You don't want to blow up the woods, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's you blow up the woods a month

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Speaker 3: Probably, yeah, blow it up a week before the run.

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Speaker 3: That could make things really hard on you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like getting to hype at the pop Pepper

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Speaker 4: You're tired. You know. You gotta like you got.

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Speaker 2: To hit that cycle just to the right time and

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Speaker 2: This week, we've got Jimmy Shyrie, friend of mine, up

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear what these guys have to

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Speaker 2: He has been after the deer since their opener.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Dude?

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Speaker 8: Hunting as much as I possibly can.

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Speaker 4: That's what's going on. Hey, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's how every feller should lead his conversations,

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Speaker 4: How are the woods in Pennsylvania right now?

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Speaker 9: Ah, They're been pretty decent, i'd say, and see deer anyway.

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Speaker 4: That's good. That's good.

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Speaker 2: So this week in general, it's kind of like what

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Speaker 8: Before?

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Speaker 9: I used to think that, but lately I think, after

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Speaker 6: Got I kind of changed with them. So yeah, now

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Speaker 6: I've been seeing more deer all your long, kind.

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Speaker 2: So what's the main change or tactic You're using to

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Speaker 9: I'm noticing the bucks just like the change in the

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Speaker 9: moving a little more. They do seem to go a

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Speaker 4: Gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Are you finding that betting in like pre scouting or

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a lot of preseason scouting, and then some of

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Speaker 9: and I've kind of just over time picked out areas

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Speaker 4: Got you?

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Speaker 2: So, uh, you know, you you definitely live in the

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Speaker 2: uh and acorns or acorns depending on where you're at,

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Speaker 4: You know, the hard mass fall is this time of year.

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Speaker 2: But I also know where you live is affected by

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Speaker 4: Right is that is that a thing? Do you have

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Speaker 9: What's this year is phenomenal. We have a ton of

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Speaker 9: they didn't seem to be bad.

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Speaker 2: This year we have crazy good acorns. Okay, very cool.

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Speaker 2: So is that something you're targeting to have deer encounters? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm targeting.

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Speaker 8: But the problem is there's so much of it.

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Speaker 6: You got kind of pick and shoes where you're sitting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. Have you all had your first frost yet?

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Speaker 6: We have as in an area I haven't here where

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Speaker 4: Frost air earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: Got youa Does that affect some of the food sources

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Speaker 2: So is that one of the things you think kind

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Speaker 9: I think it does a little bit, at least I

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Speaker 9: the deer hit them hard and now it's nothing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So, I mean I don't know what it really

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Speaker 4: I guess it just takes its course. Yeah, I got you. Cool?

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Speaker 2: So when do you shift your focus to scrapes? Are

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Speaker 9: Actually, I just noticed a lot of rubs popping up

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Speaker 4: No one buck sign got you? Got youa you running

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Speaker 4: shot cameras right now? Too?

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Speaker 8: Yep? I am yeah.

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Speaker 4: How's your camera data? A lot of nocturnal action?

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Speaker 8: Uh huh, seems that way.

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Speaker 9: Anyway, if I had five bucks last night, hit hit

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Speaker 9: us grade there I had to sell camelon gotcha?

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Speaker 4: Gotcha? Wow?

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Speaker 2: So hitting scrapes at night, So really the first good

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Speaker 2: cold cool weather push, there's a good opportunity maybe to

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Speaker 4: Huh. Yeah, it's actually this week.

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Speaker 9: We're we're dipping into the near freezing level here in

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Speaker 9: so here are definitely on their feet. I've still seen

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool. So let's look at this week.

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Speaker 2: I know that a large portion of the country is

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Speaker 9: I am going to probably rank it right around a six. Okay,

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Speaker 9: I think you're gonna start seeing bucks move a little

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sometime in the middle of night, gotcha. So you

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Speaker 6: need the possibility to see one's getting bough higher though.

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00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 4: That's good. That's what we need, always need the chances

448
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 4: just to get a little bit better.

449
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 2: And they're going to very much so, as the says,

450
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 2: testosterol supposed to ramp up and we get to that

451
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 2: sweet month of November very soon.

452
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 4: Man. Well, I appreciate the report from uh, Pennsylvania.

453
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm glad you're getting to get out and chase

454
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 2: the deer around a whole lot and uh, I hope

455
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 2: that you do, in fact run into one of those

456
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 2: bucks this week.

457
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 8: Thanks my pleasure.

458
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 2: My friend Nick Gonzalez, the public land hunter as they.

459
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 4: Call him his in Texas right now, burning up.

460
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 10: What's going on, dude, Man, I'm just sitting in the

461
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 10: truck right now and did some scouting this afternoon.

462
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 11: But it's pretty hot out so yeah, just just chilling

463
00:20:59,240 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 11: at the moment.

464
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 4: Are you drying your clothes and the air conditioner?

465
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, I am all sweaty.

466
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 4: That is October due hunting in Texas, man, for sure.

467
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 11: Absolutely.

468
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 4: Yeah. I let me ask you a question.

469
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 2: A lot of the country is talking about the October

470
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 2: lowll right, now, Texas is kind of its own deal.

471
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 2: Do you feel like Texas has an October lowll?

472
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 10: I would say typically I've felt that way, but I

473
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 10: haven't quite felt that way this year for some reason.

474
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know.

475
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 10: I've seen I feel like I've seen more activity this

476
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 10: year in October than I have in previous years.

477
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

478
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 11: I don't know what the reason for that is.

479
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: But yeah, so it is. Hell, let me ask you this,

480
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: how's the acorn crop.

481
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 4: In the areas that you've been in Texas?

482
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 11: It's been pretty good?

483
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, it's been It's been pretty good, and they're definite,

484
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 10: definitely hidding those.

485
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, is that something you're targeting right now?

486
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 10: It is, yeah, for sure, kind of the main food

487
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 10: source where I'm at.

488
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: So that what did you do on your little scouting

489
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 2: loop that you do today? Were you looking for acorns

490
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 2: or what?

491
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 4: Were you looking for?

492
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 10: Actually looking for scrapes mostly today and trails that lead

493
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 10: to it, and just trying to cut them off because

494
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 10: I think the scrape the scrapes are really lighting up

495
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 10: where I'm at. I mean today when I was scouting,

496
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 10: I found a ton of them.

497
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 4: That's cool.

498
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, And so that's kind of what I've been targeting,

499
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 10: and I think they're hitting those then, you know, kind

500
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 10: of early mornings, you know, right before shooting light and

501
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 10: probably right at the end of shooting light light in

502
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 10: the evening.

503
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 11: So I'm just trying to find those places in between.

504
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're saying in between, are you targeting, are

505
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: you figuring out where betting is and kind of getting

506
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 2: in between there.

507
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 10: That's what I'm That's what I'm trying to do. In

508
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 10: Texas a little bit harder sometimes to find betting. But

509
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 10: I think trails, if there's a good trail that kind

510
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 10: of leads up to an area, I think it's something

511
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 10: you can kind.

512
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 11: Of key in on.

513
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure. So how far do you set

514
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 4: it from the trail?

515
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 10: It kind of depends what the wind, But like this morning,

516
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 10: I set up probably about twenty yards from a main.

517
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 11: Trail that went through.

518
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you see any deer on that main trail?

519
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 10: There was the trail actually kind of splits at one

520
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 10: point and which is about fifty yards away, and they

521
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 10: seem to be taking.

522
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 11: That other trail more.

523
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 10: But they there were definitely some doughs that came down

524
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 10: that trail that I was onnest wet.

525
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: That always how it goes.

526
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: Man, if you got to pick too, you're gonna pick

527
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: the wrong one, right right. Sounds like you're narrowing it

528
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: down real nice.

529
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 4: A lot of the country's going to get.

530
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: A cold front this week, and I've actually been talking

531
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: to you outside of this, and I know that's something

532
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: that you're thinking about. Is your strategy going to change

533
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: once that cool weather gets here or are you just

534
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: making or gathering intel for when that weather does get here?

535
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 11: Mostly just been gathering intel for that.

536
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 10: So just the kind of scrape is kind of the

537
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 10: main thing I've been looking for, and I think that

538
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 10: with that cool front, maybe it'll keep them on their feet.

539
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: A little bit longer.

540
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 11: Yeah, So that's that's probably gonna be my main target.

541
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 4: Gotcha.

542
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: Are you gonna add any calling or anything into the

543
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: mix as we kind of ramp up here?

544
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 4: Is that? Is that a tactic use?

545
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 3: It is?

546
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 10: Sometimes and I might I might this week when that

547
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 10: cold front comes through. This morning, when I was getting

548
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 10: set up, I was just about set up right before

549
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 10: shooting light, and there was a there was a buck

550
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 10: that was just really vocal just on that other trail,

551
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 10: really yards right it didn't see him, but he was

552
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 10: really vocal.

553
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 4: That's cool.

554
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, so.

555
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 10: They're they're definitely starting to They're definitely starting to fire

556
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 10: up a little bit.

557
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 11: So I would probably consider using some calling.

558
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: That's cool, that's exciting. So you you you would, uh,

559
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: specifically grunt. You're gonna be doing some blind grunting potentially

560
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: while you're in the Yeah, yeah, potentially. Yeah, it just

561
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: depends on how slow it is. That's how I am.

562
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: If I've seen hing for like an hour, like you

563
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: know what, I could grunt right now, all do That's funny, Okay,

564
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: So looking forward to the cold front with that in mind,

565
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: of course, it still is mid October, right, So if

566
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: you had to rank the hunting in Texas in the

567
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: next week on a scale of one to ten for

568
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: buck movement, would you what would you say?

569
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 10: I'd probably give it around a six. Just as those

570
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 10: scrapes are really starting to light up, and with that

571
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 10: cold front, I really do think.

572
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 11: That they're going to be on their feet a little

573
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 11: bit more.

574
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 10: You know, I've seen a couple of bucks already in

575
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 10: the warmer weather during daylight hours, so I really think

576
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 10: that once that cool front comes to it's gonna it's

577
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 10: gonna get them out a little bit more.

578
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: Nice man.

579
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: Mid October six is a pretty good rating, so probably

580
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: good time to hit the woods in Texas. Appreciate it, dude,

581
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: and I hope that you get one of those big

582
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: bucks this week.

583
00:25:48,200 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 11: Thanks man, Appreciate it.

584
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: The Element's own Greg Latham homies been up in Kansas

585
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: doing some scouting.

586
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 12: What's up, dude, Not as much Vansas doing some scouting.

587
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

588
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, scouting is kind of hyped sometimes when you know

589
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: there's there might be some big deer around. But did

590
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: you happen to feel like there was a lot of

591
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: deer on their feet?

592
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 3: Not?

593
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 12: Really. It was pretty hot up in Kansas, and I

594
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 12: don't know, I just feel like things haven't got quite

595
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 12: haven't got going yet, you know.

596
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've been asking everybody else about the October

597
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: lowll and Kansas isn't quite like a lot of the

598
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: rest of the Midwest. You know, It's a little bit

599
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: different kind of a state. But you still feel like

600
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: the October lowl is a thing there.

601
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 12: I don't know, it's a I feel like deer might

602
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 12: you know, they come out of velvet and they get

603
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 12: kind of hyped for a little bit. Yeah, and then

604
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 12: the hot weather is still around and they just kind of

605
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 12: I don't they just kind of lay low for.

606
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: A little bit, a lot of nighttime movement stuff like that.

607
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, just kind of waiting on that first cold front.

608
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: Well that's coming this week.

609
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: Do you expect that deer will be or bucks will

610
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: be on their feet in daylighters?

611
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: It's still too early.

612
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 12: I think this cold front could get them on their feet.

613
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 12: I think scrapes would be a kind of a you know,

614
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 12: a target for me.

615
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least how the crops look up in Kansas.

616
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 12: The crops were seemed like the corn was cut and uh,

617
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 12: I think they're in the middle of cutting mile Low.

618
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of stuff has already come out

619
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: being seemed to be out too.

620
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's like an early year for crops.

621
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: Huh.

622
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely.

623
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: So if you had to try to find a deer

624
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 2: to shoot this week, would you feel comfortable hanging and

625
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: waiting or would you be more like in the glassing

626
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: type thing.

627
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: Uh?

628
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 12: I would probably on a cold front. If if there

629
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 12: was a scrape I knew about, I would probably be

630
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 12: hanging on that.

631
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

632
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 12: But in the hot weather this week, I would have

633
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 12: been just glassing.

634
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

635
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the moon? We got a

636
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: full moon right now and it'll be full for a

637
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: couple of days here.

638
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 12: You know, I've never been a big believer in the

639
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 12: moon thing. Yeah, but I don't know. I feel like

640
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 12: the rising full moon. I've seen a lot of big

641
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 12: bucks on the rising full moon. So yeah, I don't know.

642
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 12: I think it's just a little bonus. It might help

643
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 12: you out a little bit. Yeah, I don't know.

644
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: What's what's the best October cold front date?

645
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 12: I'd say, man, anywhere from the twenty fifth to Halloween

646
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 12: is that's my favorite.

647
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: A little far out yet, right, this one's good, but.

648
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 12: This one could be good. But I think there's gonna

649
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 12: be a.

650
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: Better one in the month.

651
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do you think that what do you think

652
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: that the pattern is on the cold front? How long

653
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: between cold fronts do you think that it usually is

654
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: this time of year?

655
00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 12: I think about every seven to ten days, maybe maybe

656
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 12: two weeks, but I think it's about ten days. Is

657
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 12: when you're gonna get your next one.

658
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do think that deer will be on

659
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: their feet a lot, but maybe not bucks. Do you

660
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: feel like shooting a dough in a spot right now,

661
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: could mess up something? Or do you think it's a

662
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: good time to go ahead and fill the freezers?

663
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, if you were going to shoot a dough, I'd

664
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 12: probably would have done it like way early.

665
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 8: Yeah.

666
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 12: I probably wouldn't mess around shooting a dough right now

667
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 12: because I think we're on the cusp of being able

668
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 12: to shoot a really big buck.

669
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, man, that gets me excited.

670
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 12: Yeah.

671
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: Do you feel like calling works this time of year?

672
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 12: Yeah, I definitely think it could could work. I mean,

673
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 12: if you see a buck that's you know, skirting edge

674
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 12: of your shooting range, I mean I definitely would try calling.

675
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point, would you bust out antlers or

676
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: grunt or like what's the thing to do still in

677
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: mid October?

678
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 12: I a grunt is probably my go to, Maybe a

679
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 12: snort we if he's kind of bristled up or I

680
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 12: think calling could work at this time of year. It's

681
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 12: just not quite there, but it's definitely a tactic tactic

682
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 12: worth you having.

683
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: Got you Okay, So, like we discussed, it is a

684
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: cold front week. The whole country's excited about it. Everybody's

685
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: talking about it. Right, it is still a little bit

686
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: or I shouldn't say a little bit earlier. I don't

687
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: want to lead you to your a different conclusion. But

688
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: it's earlier in the month then later, right right in

689
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: the middle of what most people call October. Lowell, a

690
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: little bit of a moon thing going on. If you

691
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: had to rank what you think Buck movement is going

692
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: to be like on a scale of one to ten

693
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: in Kansas for the next week, what do you think

694
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: is going to be the next week?

695
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 12: I think we get a cold front and I give

696
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 12: it about a seven. I think it's going to get

697
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 12: until eight or nine after that, but yeah, seven this week,

698
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 12: I think.

699
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: Okay, you're pretty you like it. You think it's still

700
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: a time to get out there and get after him.

701
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 12: I like the next week.

702
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: Okay, that's exciting, dude. Well appreciate the report. On the phone.

703
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: Now, I have got my friend Jacob for from Exodus

704
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: Outdoor to Gear and this guy probably has October, specifically

705
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: late October dialed more than any person that I know.

706
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: So I'm excited to talk to you. Man. What's going on?

707
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 8: Hey, thanks for having me. Not much is going on.

708
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 6: Just finished an evening hunt here wasn't too exciting, but man,

709
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 6: it's crazy that it's October fifteenth right now, and basically

710
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 6: half of October is over and we got to get

711
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 6: out of and enjoy every six.

712
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 8: So that's that's where my mentality is out right now.

713
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: That's cool, man.

714
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: So Illinois is where you're hunting right now, and it

715
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: sounds like, you know, just on the phone with you

716
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: Will to Go, you were having some rough hunts. A

717
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: friend of yours killed a very nice dear, So there's

718
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: things happening, and then tonight you saw kind of a

719
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: flurry of activity.

720
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: So can you explain that a little bit.

721
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, We'll starting off with my buddy Richard.

722
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 6: He shot really really really nice dear buff ball lifetime

723
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 6: as I'm yeah, yeah, And so he was hunting off a.

724
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 8: Thick creek ditch with some cut.

725
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 6: Corn and an alfalfa field in the in the in

726
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 6: the area, and I was, you know, I'm guessing he

727
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 6: killed it before before we know where he was headed to.

728
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 6: But I assume he was probably going to the alfalfa field.

729
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 6: And the reason I say that is tonight I could

730
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 6: see in our f apple field probably one hundred fifty

731
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: yards away, and that's where all the deer ended up.

732
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 4: To go feed.

733
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 6: So that seemed to be the hot food source. And

734
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: you know, this cold front here, if you're in the

735
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 6: bubble of where that buck's spending a lot of time,

736
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 6: it could be really productive. And if you're like me

737
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 6: and you don't have a deer right in your bubble,

738
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 6: it could.

739
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 8: Be pretty slow.

740
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

741
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can definitely see that, and I don't I

742
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: have one deer that I could go hunt, but I'm

743
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: kind of still trying to be patient. But I know

744
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: exactly what you're talking about. So you mentioned the cold front,

745
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: that's that's impending right now. But right now the dates

746
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: that we're looking at. You know, this launch is on

747
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: October sixteenth, and I would kind of loosely denote the

748
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: second and third week of October over as being the

749
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: October loll Would you would you agree with that?

750
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 8: Yeah?

751
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: Just actually what people call it rot.

752
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say we're smack dab in the middle of it.

753
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 6: And I feel like this next cold front we could

754
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 6: call pre rut.

755
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 8: And that I mean, that is my opinion. And we

756
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 8: actually just released.

757
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 6: A really interesting episode on the xd of this podcast

758
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: with Steve Shirk. He runs the Hunt fifty trail cameras

759
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 6: on Pennsylvania Public Land.

760
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 8: And he makes mature book.

761
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 6: He's kind of mature buck movement tracker on this spreadsheet

762
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 6: and you can see distinctly with weather fronts of how

763
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 6: the buck activity picks up. And then during these really

764
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 6: warm days that are kind of you know, after Wednesday

765
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 6: going into Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, it's.

766
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 8: Probably gonna cool off, not with the.

767
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 6: Temperatures, but buck activity, especially in daylight.

768
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. So what is what are EU

769
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: opinions on the October Lol? Is it real? Is it

770
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: a thing that people should consider and when they're planning,

771
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: you know, hunt trips.

772
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's definitely something that you should plan.

773
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 6: I think that if the weather cooperates, it could still

774
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 6: be really good. Yeah, But if the weather isn't cooperating, man,

775
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 6: I would probably save those days for when the weather cooperates.

776
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 6: And I'm personally probably never going to take a week

777
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 6: vacation on the second week of October thirtek of October

778
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 6: on a hot trip personally, And that's just based off

779
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 6: of a bunch of trail camera data over the years.

780
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 6: But what does not me excited obviously October a little.

781
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 6: It could be challenging to maybe kill a buck. However,

782
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 6: there's a lot of sign that's about to get laid

783
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 6: down on that ass so.

784
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 8: Excited, so excited.

785
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: So I wanted to talk about that with you specifically

786
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: because you have dates pretty nailed as far as like

787
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: when you think is a good time to move and

788
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: when you think to predict like the first day on

789
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: movement and YadA YadA, and a lot of this orientates

790
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: around scrapes, and you're talking about the sign that are

791
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: that's about to get laid down. You and I've had

792
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: countless discussions about scrapes, how to hunt them, and even

793
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: Exodus has scrape week usually, right at least you used to, Right,

794
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: you're still doing scrape week this week this year.

795
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 8: You know, we haven't.

796
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 6: We've kind of dialed back on that. Okay, we've talked

797
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 6: about scrapes a lot.

798
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of it's

799
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: loosely scrape week coming up, seeing right, that's kind of

800
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: like what follows the October lolls. So I guess my

801
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: question is is this cold front the cold front to

802
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: go ahead and move on those scrapes or are we

803
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: waiting for the one that maybe might happen in the

804
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: next six to ten days.

805
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 6: I would say both, and I hate that I'm not

806
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 6: giving it a definitive answer, but.

807
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 8: Because I hating people do that to me. So like,

808
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 8: for example, this Saturday, I.

809
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 6: Tore through a farm to go look for sign yeah,

810
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 6: and I found one scrape that was actually from last

811
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 6: year as well, that was really active as we got

812
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: deeper into October. There was some activity, you know, let's

813
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 6: say October or whatever, fourteen seventeen from last year, but

814
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 6: it really picked up when we got that front towards

815
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 6: the end of October last and so I'm anticipating similar

816
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 6: activity for this upcoming, you know.

817
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 8: As we get the next front.

818
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: So the long and short of it is, if you

819
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 6: find a scrape right now that's in conjunction of betting,

820
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 6: maybe on the way to food, to throw in one

821
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 6: other thing for people to key in on, that is

822
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 6: something I would I would pay a lot of attention

823
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 6: to because I'm telling you what, for the guys that

824
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 6: are saying I don't have anything to hunt, I'm not

825
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 6: feeling real good about this year. Your season is probably

826
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 6: going to change in the next week. From a trail

827
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 6: camera picture on a scrape.

828
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 8: If you follow those those things that I have because

829
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 8: every year I'm just like, oh my gosh, there's a

830
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 8: new due.

831
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 6: The year I shot my ey wouldn't show up until

832
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 6: the seventeenth of October. Yeah, and I shot them on

833
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 6: November six So it's like it happens a lot every

834
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 6: single year. So just buckle in and remain patient, but

835
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 6: move those cameras around to the best.

836
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 8: Sign and associated association with betting.

837
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 6: It's kind of what I would suggest for this next

838
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 6: week from a scouting interreparation tactic.

839
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: Man, those are some hot, high level tips. Man. Thank

840
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: you very much for that.

841
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: So as you're looking at the next week, you know

842
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: we're discussing this could from that. I mean quite honestly,

843
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: everyone around the country is excited about and I know

844
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: a lot of that has to do just because we're

845
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: so excited about deer season being here.

846
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 4: I still, well, I don't want to put words in

847
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: your mouth.

848
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: It is October sixteenth, right, it's not the twenty fifth,

849
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: and I see that we have a full moon rising

850
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: right now. It's almost complete, so like in the next

851
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: three days we're going to have full moon days.

852
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: All that being said, what do you think.

853
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: The deer movement is going to be like or the

854
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: buck movement, excuse me, on a scale of one to ten,

855
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: and why do you think that?

856
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think for daylight buck activity in the next week,

857
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be pretty low. To be honest,

858
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 6: I'm gonna put a number of like three to four. However,

859
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 6: I think that the inventory and sign that's getting laid

860
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 6: down is probably what is what I'm personally going to

861
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 6: key in on those hot days, Like I'm going to

862
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 6: go in and scout and probably move some stuff around

863
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 6: and get a game plan for the next cold front

864
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 6: or even prep into a somewhat of a game plan

865
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 6: for early November. Like I really like that first week

866
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 6: in November, just like everyone else the Earth. But that's

867
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 6: that's where my head's at. It's like not getting super

868
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 6: passive and just saying, you know, it's too warm.

869
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 11: I'm not going to do anything.

870
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 6: I'm going to try to do some strategics out and

871
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 6: move some cameras around, check some standard cameras, and just

872
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 6: get as much data to try to make.

873
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 8: A play on the next cold front.

874
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 6: Because man, the next one that comes in is often.

875
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 8: A really, really really great time to be on.

876
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 6: That community scrape, or even the scrape that's in the

877
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 6: back of your mind of like, oh my gosh, this

878
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 6: scrape was absolutely tore up. Go spend some time there

879
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 6: on this next front, and I think you'll be surprised

880
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 6: with what you see.

881
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: Awesome, dude, appreciate all the great information.

882
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 8: Awesome, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.

883
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but quite honestly, it's a

884
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: pretty good week to hunt deer, especially for mid October

885
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: with the weather rolling in.

886
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 4: And you heard that from the guys today.

887
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 2: I mean, big bucks are already going down and it's

888
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: only going to get better from here. Guys, this is

889
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: the sweet spot. This is the time of year that

890
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: we look forward to all the time. Enjoy it, don't

891
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 2: stress about it, don't worry too much. Have a great

892
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: time in the woods. Enjoy being out there in God's

893
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: creation because it's an awesome, awesome place to be. If

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Speaker 2: you are needing to get hype or you need to

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Speaker 2: get a little bit of the fix of a deer

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Speaker 2: hunt because you're at work or whatever it might be,

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Speaker 2: head over to the Element channel on YouTube because we

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Speaker 2: have got new hunts dropping every week and just the

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Speaker 2: thing you need to scratch your itch for the deer

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Speaker 2: woods or maybe learn a little something.

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Speaker 4: Also, go over to wiredhunt dot com this time of.

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Speaker 2: Year, Mark and the crew are always putting some really

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Speaker 2: good articles on the website. Right now, Adam Moore has

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Speaker 2: a article which I think is really interesting why your

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Speaker 2: early season hunting should include a ground game. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: people think about the ground a lot, especially myself if

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Speaker 2: you're in the rut or maybe even late season when

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Speaker 2: you're setting up on food sources, but early season, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. It's kind of strange, but it just might work.

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Speaker 2: There's some good details in an article. Go check that

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Speaker 2: out now if you haven't, this has been rout fresh,

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Speaker 2: Keep it fresh and