Speaker 1: Money. We are take Take Valencine. We are the authority
Speaker 1: on all things R and B ladies and gentlemen. My
Speaker 1: name is Take. I'm Jay Valentine. And this it's the
Speaker 1: R and B Money Podcast. What you said again, what's
Speaker 1: the name of the R Money Yeah podcast? A lot
Speaker 1: of money, A whole lot of whole lot of money
Speaker 1: and to be authority on all things yeah, yeah, harm
Speaker 1: b Oh you see me, you see me? You see
Speaker 1: me weaving? Oh, they've been waiting. Yeah, they've been, won't
Speaker 1: They've been in the compart. They've been at the comment.
Speaker 1: Is he when we gonna see he? Huh? Is he
Speaker 1: coming to see you? We got a man in the building.
Speaker 1: My god? Who we got it? My god? We have
Speaker 1: we have one of the greatest talents our generation has
Speaker 1: ever seen. Oh one of them we have. We have
Speaker 1: one of them. Uh. The boy. The boy loves to
Speaker 1: call himself chocolate. That's what that's call said. He let
Speaker 1: a shout out to the ladies. How many ladies want
Speaker 1: this chocolate? That's that's what he says. The man is
Speaker 1: gross over a billion dollars at the box office, ten billion,
Speaker 1: ten billion dollars at the box office. Nine short they
Speaker 1: want to see him all the time. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Thanks some noise for my brother. So you told you,
Speaker 1: you told me you how to disclaimer? Oh yeah you want.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm so happy to be here, many.
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite shows that I ain't
Speaker 1: been on yet. This is for real, man. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy for y'all. I just want to put y'all. Put
Speaker 1: y'all at ease real quick. If you sensitive, don't watch this. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you don't do well with tough topics and people
Speaker 1: being raw and unfiltered, just go go look at something.
Speaker 1: There's so much shit going on on social media, just
Speaker 1: swipe and keep going. Were about to unpack this R
Speaker 1: and B conversation, were about to talk about whatever it
Speaker 1: is we're thinking and feeling. I feel safe here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are my brothers. I might drop a tier two.
Speaker 1: I do have a scheduled tier scheduled Tier three five,
Speaker 1: three forty five. If you just tune around, you stick
Speaker 1: around at three forty five, that's scheduled tier. It's coming.
Speaker 1: But I'm happy to be here, man. But if you
Speaker 1: sensitive man being your feelings about brown men having conversations
Speaker 1: about real shit, just just go away. Man, but it's
Speaker 1: about to get real. First of all, to be here,
Speaker 1: flowers to you, my brother, Manum flowers to you, my brother.
Speaker 1: We all know what this is. And ninety eight when
Speaker 1: we met and and I had to, I had to
Speaker 1: had to vocally kick your ass. Oh wow, we started
Speaker 1: on like that. He's saying, row of them, some of
Speaker 1: the things right there. Um, but you've been at a
Speaker 1: high level ever since, ever since. That is not easy.
Speaker 1: That is unheard of. Soap flowers, UM for continuing to
Speaker 1: be great. Thank you and representing UM for the culture.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, UM the right way. And now let's get
Speaker 1: into the wrong way, not in the wrong way. J
Speaker 1: is like I've never seen this. Let's get he's getting ready. Okay.
Speaker 1: First of all, first, here's another disclaimer. Our liais the
Speaker 1: tg T liais all the guy who everybody felt comfortable having,
Speaker 1: the con top conversationist, our therapist. He's here. He can
Speaker 1: bounce for all of this cd DJ. So back to you,
Speaker 1: my brother, to chime in here and there. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you guys do your thing, but I will chime in. Okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: no that I won't say why did you break up?
Speaker 1: Why did I break up. That's a big it's a loader,
Speaker 1: it's it's a loader question. But it's not fair. So
Speaker 1: let's go here. Let's go here. You walk into the
Speaker 1: office of Atlantic. I'm sitting down. Deal is done, and
Speaker 1: we're discussing percentages and that recess to us. I feel that.
Speaker 1: But my market share the first time a nigga had
Speaker 1: ever told me. But that's all that matters, nigga saying
Speaker 1: I get more money, ya know, my market share, Um,
Speaker 1: it's significantly more. They just left all that shit up
Speaker 1: to you, two brothers. So I respect you, but it's
Speaker 1: not even because it's not even. It can't be even.
Speaker 1: We can't be even. Look at me, look a look
Speaker 1: at you, look at you. And it was angry. It
Speaker 1: was a tough conversation because because I didn't like it, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't like to see take go gulp ge because
Speaker 1: I didn't even give neither one of them the heads
Speaker 1: up that I was going to present my market share.
Speaker 1: But no, I didn't know when you when you around around,
Speaker 1: I'm coming up and it was schematics. I gotta gauge, okay,
Speaker 1: So no, I had to I have to. First of all,
Speaker 1: I got to defend myselfles. We ain't gonna be out
Speaker 1: here crazy all right, without even getting into no numbers,
Speaker 1: because that ain't nobody's business. What the conversation was, because
Speaker 1: I don't do shows that often, concerts that often. When
Speaker 1: I finally do shows, rather I drop every year every
Speaker 1: five six years, I'm able to demand a certain number,
Speaker 1: and so Tank was getting his number, g was getting
Speaker 1: his number. Now, if music was the only thing, it
Speaker 1: was the only thing I did, then all of our
Speaker 1: numbers would probably look the same, because there's no such
Speaker 1: thing as paying your bills and feeding your family. What
Speaker 1: i't doing concerts when you're an artists. So everything about
Speaker 1: me doing movies became an accidental blessing, right because I'm
Speaker 1: doing these movies. I'm getting this money over here, so
Speaker 1: I don't gotta do fifty sixty seventy shows a year
Speaker 1: as far as concerts, so when I do my shows,
Speaker 1: I'm able to get the number that I feel like
Speaker 1: I deserved. And so the conversation was TGT januine, Tank tyres,
Speaker 1: how do we split it three ways? And for me,
Speaker 1: that just didn't work for me at the time. And
Speaker 1: so as we either signed the deal or was about
Speaker 1: decide the deal. I just had to put that on
Speaker 1: the table and say this is where I'm at with it,
Speaker 1: and that was it. Yeah, hold on, hold the pending.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to discussing. You won't custom your kids
Speaker 1: are now okay. It was a tough conversation. He Sweat
Speaker 1: had the same conversation with LS. No. No, no. It
Speaker 1: was a tough conversation for two reasons. The first reason
Speaker 1: was because we actually didn't have an agreement when it
Speaker 1: came to that, and we just thought that since now
Speaker 1: we're a group of new entity, it would all be
Speaker 1: fair amongst all of us. Three way split, three way split.
Speaker 1: But then the two to that is that you were right.
Speaker 1: You were getting way more money per show to show up.
Speaker 1: You were getting more money than both of us combined
Speaker 1: to show up. So when Jaha came in another another number,
Speaker 1: Sky guys, if you just move the percentage, it's just
Speaker 1: light over here, and then you move yours right up
Speaker 1: at the don't have anybody lands everybody else like this.
Speaker 1: I was like, hell y, Genie was like feel mean, hey,
Speaker 1: it's ten years later. Ge still ain't over off the
Speaker 1: Hennessey right now, and you talk about hot has a
Speaker 1: Bowling Alley at his house. Yeah, I mean hot. So
Speaker 1: so we end up you know what it is, what
Speaker 1: it is whatever. We moved past that part. Here's the
Speaker 1: other part where it got tricked, because I want to
Speaker 1: keep getting into the tricky part because they've seen us
Speaker 1: discussed it separately, but I've never seen us discuss it together.
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm the music man. I am the music man, Jake.
Speaker 1: We had a production company making music. That's what we did, right, Jack.
Speaker 1: We make the music Grammy nominated number one records, That's
Speaker 1: what we do. Ty Reese don't write nothing. Ty Reef
Speaker 1: don't produce something. I think I just sent him on
Speaker 1: the internet. Argue with somebody the other day about that.
Speaker 1: But you know what you saying. The music man is
Speaker 1: in the room. Okay, you just you just use your
Speaker 1: market share to negotiate us an amazing deal. You did
Speaker 1: your part. Now it's time for the music man to
Speaker 1: do his part. I'm n genuine working with Timberlin. I'm Timberland,
Speaker 1: and you won't get out of my way. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do a boot camp. We're gonna call a thousand producers,
Speaker 1: a thousand rids, said Reese. That's not how that's not
Speaker 1: how you make make magic instances. That's how I make magic.
Speaker 1: It's like the reason you don't make music all the time.
Speaker 1: But when I do make music, look what happens. Look
Speaker 1: at what happened, I said, look market share lot, look
Speaker 1: at market would I'm a filing complaint with the podcasting video.
Speaker 1: You for the grab in front of me. It's over
Speaker 1: and I remember you too. And we proceed to make
Speaker 1: this album with a boot camp with individual I mean
Speaker 1: sessions just all over the place. And you could tell
Speaker 1: by our text messages if we ever pulled up that
Speaker 1: text chain from years ago. Don't forget forget the talent.
Speaker 1: There's a lot. There was violence within us, right, but
Speaker 1: what you would send to the label was equally as violent. Yes,
Speaker 1: in the morning, at four in the morning, I was
Speaker 1: just thinking the start of the I was just thinking
Speaker 1: in the subject box, you all are not going to
Speaker 1: why are you so difficult? Man? Hey man, listen, I
Speaker 1: have to just say, guys, truth be told. We got
Speaker 1: one shot at this thing, man, We got one shot
Speaker 1: at this thing. And I'm gonna tell y'all, man, the
Speaker 1: old mean was in this place of just being in
Speaker 1: disbelief about everything that had to do with anything. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what level people is on. I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: anything about anything that was going on in my life
Speaker 1: and my career, and so I'll never forget. Somebody said
Speaker 1: there's humility and there's being too humble, and I said,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? They said, sometimes you could be
Speaker 1: so humble where you disappear in the room, you disappear,
Speaker 1: in the deals, you disappear, and negotiating what you really deserve.
Speaker 1: Don't be so grateful and so humble that this opportunity
Speaker 1: present itself that you don't do whatever you got to
Speaker 1: do to make sure that business wise, you don't take
Speaker 1: care of mesness. So once I shifted out of superhumility
Speaker 1: south Central La, grateful, can't believe that anything is happening
Speaker 1: beyond the cod commercial deal number one, with the Tyrese
Speaker 1: album to deal number two. This whole time, I'm just
Speaker 1: like yo, man, whatever y'all have in mind for me,
Speaker 1: it's all good. No, no, no, no, don't ask for
Speaker 1: all that, man, We're good with this. Everything about my
Speaker 1: thinking changed, and the moment that my thinking changed about
Speaker 1: me moving as a man that knows its value is
Speaker 1: self worth. And I'm not going to settle for whatever
Speaker 1: they're giving or whatever they're offering, without having the audacity
Speaker 1: to either demand or bottom line and say this is
Speaker 1: where we need to be. And so obviously when you
Speaker 1: move that way, people are gonna not you. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying this to eat you or g but people are
Speaker 1: going to project what they believe and think you deserve
Speaker 1: off onto you. And that's where the conflict is. So
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, as I pull up
Speaker 1: to your house and I'm seeing R and B Money podcast,
Speaker 1: the court is there, the pool wife, he was right there.
Speaker 1: I waved out a she cooking. You deserve this thing.
Speaker 1: You deserve this. I am in the jay's crib yet,
Speaker 1: but you deserve this. And if you had settled for
Speaker 1: what they were willing to give, then we be in
Speaker 1: a very different situation. And that's my life because I
Speaker 1: am overly aggressive about business, about deal terms, about what
Speaker 1: I feel like I deserve, and you got to demand it.
Speaker 1: And then when it's time to compromise because something is
Speaker 1: going to implode, you got to also watch the algorithm
Speaker 1: of deal making and negotiating and make sure that you
Speaker 1: end up with nothing because you allow it to get
Speaker 1: nasty pertaining to negotiating. So yeah, the reason I'm worth
Speaker 1: what I'm worth and I have what I have is
Speaker 1: because I decided to stay humbled, meaning grateful, but don't
Speaker 1: be humble enough to where you disappear in the deals
Speaker 1: that you're doing. And that's the difference. Well, you definitely
Speaker 1: didn't disappear. But there's a lot of people that's done movies.
Speaker 1: They don't make what I make per movie. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of people doing shows of concerts. They don't make
Speaker 1: what I make pers cun There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: doing walkthroughs and hosted doing whatever they're doing, but they'll
Speaker 1: take pretty much whatever is offered. And I got to
Speaker 1: shout out my big Brovevin Diesel and and I haven't
Speaker 1: made it to the twenty million dollars club yet. I'm
Speaker 1: on my way. But I said to then around the
Speaker 1: time we first met, when I did Fast five, Literally,
Speaker 1: I said, yo, man, how do you get into the
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars club? Like, how there's only a few
Speaker 1: black people in this town that makes twenty million dollars
Speaker 1: a movie. How do you get into the movie to
Speaker 1: the club. He says, it's funny you should say that
Speaker 1: tie boogies. What do he called me? He said, Well,
Speaker 1: I got here from saying no more often than I
Speaker 1: say yes. My head fell off his shoulders, blue bloop
Speaker 1: down the mountain, and I'm saying wow, he said, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The package is expensive, he said, I don't always have
Speaker 1: to have the movie studio to pay for my private
Speaker 1: plane when I travel places. But the day that anybody
Speaker 1: in the industry know that I was willing to fly commercial,
Speaker 1: fucking my bag up. I've created a standard for myself,
Speaker 1: and this is what it has to be, even if
Speaker 1: I don't want a private plane. That's what everybody in
Speaker 1: the game is used to me traveling on, because that's
Speaker 1: that is the perceptions of my value that I've created
Speaker 1: for myself. So I can't go backwards. Sometimes I gotta
Speaker 1: wait an extra day and a half for a I've
Speaker 1: playing to show up when I could have easily said
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go now and just go fly commercial.
Speaker 1: But it's going to change the perception. Oh he's willing
Speaker 1: to fly commercial. M he's willing to accept it. Spread work.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely got him on a commercial plane. We flew.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like ten dollars. I've put him
Speaker 1: on the plane you don't have to do global expres
Speaker 1: you know, so you create the standard, and that's the
Speaker 1: whole thing. You have to go into every situation and know,
Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is what my value is,
Speaker 1: and this is what I believe I deserve. And and
Speaker 1: then in the end when the conflict of yo, you're
Speaker 1: doing too much, you're going too far. But then both
Speaker 1: G and Tank became ultimately the beneficiaries of that bottom line.
Speaker 1: For those moments that I had them, then we all
Speaker 1: able to pop champagne and have a good time, even
Speaker 1: though I don't drink. I said thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for the photo. Man, it wasn't always a
Speaker 1: good time it. Okay, what do you mean before you
Speaker 1: say that? Here's what I love. I love that you have.
Speaker 1: I love that you have a bottom line. Yes, I
Speaker 1: love that and your self worth. It's on. You cannot
Speaker 1: you cannot, you cannot move my needle. Impossible. But I'm
Speaker 1: not the only one to TG right what I'm saying. No, no, no, okay.
Speaker 1: I think there comes a time where because for me,
Speaker 1: you're my friend, and so a bottom line in business
Speaker 1: starts to feel like you're not just negotiating against me,
Speaker 1: but trying to make sure you're standing above me. That's
Speaker 1: how it felt. That's how it felt. And we've had discussions, bologize,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that we've had discussions, you know,
Speaker 1: and and understanding each other. But that's for me where
Speaker 1: the feelings got weird because I'm like, this is my
Speaker 1: this's my friend, and he's trying to make sure or
Speaker 1: it felt like he's trying to make sure that Tyres
Speaker 1: is right here. His name is already first in the group.
Speaker 1: Nobody knew that you knew that TGT could have been
Speaker 1: any t who walks out on stagebirth. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know who used to walk out on stagebirth. I
Speaker 1: don't remember who walked down on stage Jake Jo Jake,
Speaker 1: get him God. The business side of it, okay, which
Speaker 1: obviously for me was you got And I've said this
Speaker 1: to both of you before. It was very much an
Speaker 1: internship for me coming from because at this point I'm
Speaker 1: not managing to tank it either, so I'm coming from
Speaker 1: the creative side. But then I'm coming from the business
Speaker 1: world because I you know, I got some deals for people,
Speaker 1: and I had done consulting in that type of thing,
Speaker 1: but just not like full management, especially at you guys' level.
Speaker 1: So I was kind of thrown into it. What you
Speaker 1: all know, and for me, I didn't. I never asked
Speaker 1: for money because I didn't feel like I should be
Speaker 1: paid for what I was doing just yet this was
Speaker 1: me paying in my own mind, paying my own dudes,
Speaker 1: and because I was able to write the records with
Speaker 1: it for you what y'all and for y'all for the
Speaker 1: project and be a part of that. So I'm like, Nan,
Speaker 1: I'm a part of it, and I'm going to learn.
Speaker 1: And then it started to be like, shit, okay, these
Speaker 1: are these are three of my friends individually, because I
Speaker 1: had known all three of you guys individually, I had
Speaker 1: worked with all y'all individually and together. Now and me
Speaker 1: watching the friendships be affected by the business, it was
Speaker 1: tough for me at times because I'm like fuck man
Speaker 1: like and and Tank will tell you like, I'm I've
Speaker 1: always been one of those people. You know this too, though.
Speaker 1: I don't like for people that I'm cool with to
Speaker 1: have issues with each other. Yeah, because I never want
Speaker 1: to be in a room where someone is speaking on
Speaker 1: somebody I fuck with, because I'm going to be like,
Speaker 1: hey man, yeah, nah, I feel like that called that man.
Speaker 1: But that's that's tough at times though, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that that's tough at times because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I hear all, y'all, but shit, can y'all hear all y'all?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I really wanted that.
Speaker 1: I wanted you guys to come together even though yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all in the group and we traveling together, but y'all
Speaker 1: still wasn't together until y'all have moments where y'all just
Speaker 1: had to all get on somebody. Then it was like
Speaker 1: we together now. But other than that, this guy here,
Speaker 1: this got this got are but I's expected I have
Speaker 1: to chime man to say, if you can wrap it
Speaker 1: all up, the overall experience of TGT was three individual
Speaker 1: grown men, fathers. Man had have been successful in their
Speaker 1: own right their whole life, their whole career. Genuine has
Speaker 1: sold the most records of all three of us. Genuine
Speaker 1: has got more number ones and all. They don't care
Speaker 1: if they twenty thirty years, don't matter. They hits records
Speaker 1: have been sold. Actually doesn't have one of them. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have no not anymore. So this shit I had
Speaker 1: to do it. You know who's got the most number one? Okay,
Speaker 1: so so okay, yeah, thanks God the most number one.
Speaker 1: But make sure sorry that's I had to have to
Speaker 1: update my database. Uh So, trying to get three grown
Speaker 1: men who's been flying and moving and operating and the
Speaker 1: function and have been successful in their own right doing
Speaker 1: it the way they do it and it's producing results.
Speaker 1: To try and put all three of us in one
Speaker 1: that in itself is a recipe for disaster. Because if
Speaker 1: we were all singing, no, no, if we're all singing, yeah,
Speaker 1: if we're if we're all singing and we all are
Speaker 1: in a group and this is our first time you know,
Speaker 1: doing it, then that's cool. But to be this successful
Speaker 1: in our own right individually and then wait, this late
Speaker 1: in the game for all three of us to link
Speaker 1: up and do it together. I don't wear that. I
Speaker 1: don't go about that like that. I don't negotiate like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not agreeing to that. I don't I go about
Speaker 1: making my album my way. You go about making your
Speaker 1: albums your way. G does it his way. So that
Speaker 1: in itself is a recipe for disaster. Taking three grown
Speaker 1: alpha men and saying let's all whole hands together and
Speaker 1: make believe we are you know anything that's that's three way.
Speaker 1: So it happened with LSG. You know. Um, I was
Speaker 1: just with Gerald Leaverte's daughter in Atlanta and heard so
Speaker 1: many stories about all of the stuff that they were
Speaker 1: dealing with with the egos and personality because they were
Speaker 1: all successful just like us. So I think, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's more stories to be told, but I think in
Speaker 1: general none of us should actually be surprised at any
Speaker 1: of the conflicts or moments of discomfort that took place
Speaker 1: because we're all used to doing our own thing and
Speaker 1: then now you're putting a square in a circle trying
Speaker 1: to make it fit. And I'm just still proud of
Speaker 1: the ultimate outcome. I'm still proud of what we accomplished.
Speaker 1: You can't skip one song on this album, and we
Speaker 1: robbed ourselves of the opportunity to tour and really maximize
Speaker 1: what it is. But I got some great news for you,
Speaker 1: Tank and Jay. I got some great news to tell
Speaker 1: y'all right now. And I want to move on TGT
Speaker 1: because I don't want to do this ship for another
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Clearly, the pre interview came with you asked
Speaker 1: him about this, and you ask, I'm just got some
Speaker 1: great news. Atlantic Records has officially agreed to sign TGT
Speaker 1: for a second album. Yeah, congratulations, and you're mad at me.
Speaker 1: You're mad at me. You're welcome, you're mad at me.
Speaker 1: He did he didn't make congratulations. He meant well, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say this. Wait like y'all, don't y'all, don't
Speaker 1: name is not genuine. And if you can't make edit
Speaker 1: that out of edit. See how they responded to the
Speaker 1: good news. That's crazy. No, no, no, no, no, pull
Speaker 1: that shit off the wall. Right skips skip steps? What
Speaker 1: did I skip? Genuine? I'm not genuine. You can't have
Speaker 1: this conversation if that man is not here? Brother, Okay,
Speaker 1: so what does that mean? What did I do wrong?
Speaker 1: What did I do wrong? Jake Valentine, You didn't call
Speaker 1: g and have that conversation. I didn't call Tank either,
Speaker 1: but takes here. But but are you happy or no?
Speaker 1: The fuck is going on? I feel see this is
Speaker 1: why we broke up already because I'm out of here. Listen,
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. I can't do shit. You
Speaker 1: skip the step me and you me and you have
Speaker 1: been me and you have been back in strade again. Wow.
Speaker 1: Recently we've been back in stride again. It's weirdly just happened.
Speaker 1: We've been having these cheers and Clapton, I got, I
Speaker 1: got some ship playing out. It's it's hold on you.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's ain't happy either. Got they like yo, I see
Speaker 1: what you mean? Tan, fuck you too, bearded man, bearded man,
Speaker 1: dark bearded happy. This is ridiculous. So it's being against y'all.
Speaker 1: It's this go ahead. It was tacky, It would be
Speaker 1: a mean. It was tacky, it would be amazing news.
Speaker 1: It's not amazing. No, listen, let me finish. It would
Speaker 1: be amazing news. If the conversation was fellas he's staring,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into this office and I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: a plaque. Are y'all? Are y'all ready to rock? And
Speaker 1: of course she was gonna get a yes from me.
Speaker 1: I already told you we should do it. But if
Speaker 1: you had that verbal yes from genuine and then you
Speaker 1: walked in here and said, guys, I did it. I
Speaker 1: pulled it off, then we could celebrate. Right now, you
Speaker 1: just celebrate said what you want us to celebrate? You
Speaker 1: getting a deal for a group that doesn't exist. All right, well,
Speaker 1: you know the good thing. We ain't signed them and
Speaker 1: nothing has been negotiating, So maybe NETI I have not.
Speaker 1: You put a number out there. I have not. That's
Speaker 1: my word. They just know your floor. They know your floor,
Speaker 1: they floor, they bottom line. Okay, No, okay, see that's it.
Speaker 1: That was a moment. No, no, that's a moment. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that I learn. I love that I learned something.
Speaker 1: You knew that Jay Valentine literally he left the room.
Speaker 1: He was out on the side of a mountain, gazing, gazing,
Speaker 1: day dreaming. We lost him for about fifteen minutes because
Speaker 1: of me announcing tgt's got a new deal that is
Speaker 1: unbelievable letters. Okay, maybe I phrased it. Room. Can I
Speaker 1: get another shot? We're calling. Can I get a take?
Speaker 1: Moving on? We can't get a take too. We're done here.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Um you all right now? Can I
Speaker 1: have a Jay Valentine owner and gaze off for a second.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, We're gonna. I want to get it. I
Speaker 1: want to get into Tyree's. I just got them to
Speaker 1: agree to teach the singer the solo artist. Nothing is signed,
Speaker 1: nothing is negotiated. When I first met you, shy Reese, Um,
Speaker 1: we went to New York to work on some music
Speaker 1: and went to the studio and just you know, gott
Speaker 1: it cracking and I was I had to god. Man,
Speaker 1: He's like, don't leave. I was like, I gotta go,
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't let me leave, and he's like, you
Speaker 1: can stay with me. You know what I'm saying in
Speaker 1: my spot? And um we went to your spot and
Speaker 1: I was like, what's that smell? It's like, is that
Speaker 1: your feet? I get this is the worst inter canceled
Speaker 1: the ship where my brother. I think me and man
Speaker 1: I have clearly starred niggers in real time. You're bro,
Speaker 1: you are a part of you are part of my life,
Speaker 1: my lineage brother. I couldn't separate from you. I want
Speaker 1: to get it to you as the artist man, because um,
Speaker 1: let's go back, let's go to watch. Let's get people
Speaker 1: an opportunity. I want to go back to where let's
Speaker 1: get people an opportunity to stop thinking about my feet. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was. I had to get I was ninety eight
Speaker 1: to just different. Yeah, I washed my feet and he's
Speaker 1: panic cures. I could afford them. Now. The hell, you
Speaker 1: actually built, You built a spot. That's what you do.
Speaker 1: You built stuff. We'll get to your building and now too.
Speaker 1: Tell me, j if you pissed me off today, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, tell me tell me. And I know we've
Speaker 1: heard this. I know you know you you've been able
Speaker 1: to tell this story in a in a few on
Speaker 1: a few different forms. But give me the energy that
Speaker 1: you feel when you realize that you have a gift,
Speaker 1: when somebody points it out to you, or it just
Speaker 1: comes to you, you were like, oh shit, I'm different. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's been happening for me. Um, long before I
Speaker 1: got on you know. Um, I was always the center
Speaker 1: of attention everywhere I went. I was always the class clown.
Speaker 1: It would be no such thing as ever running into
Speaker 1: me when I was seven, eight, nine years old and
Speaker 1: and not remembering I remember that kid, you know, because
Speaker 1: that was just I was always you know, as my
Speaker 1: mom rest in peace would say, I was always marked,
Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was. I'm a marked man.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's now here's the thing. Being special.
Speaker 1: Are believing that you're special? Are people saying that you're special?
Speaker 1: There's something about you wasn't necessarily connected to talent that
Speaker 1: early on. There was no nine year old singing tyrese.
Speaker 1: There there was no ten year old actor and it
Speaker 1: never happened for me that early in the game. But
Speaker 1: as far as me just always being special, like I
Speaker 1: think Brandy literally Brandy Norwood, who I love, has been
Speaker 1: best friends with me since I was eleven years old,
Speaker 1: and me, Brandy and Ray J used to sing at
Speaker 1: a park in Watt's called where Rogers Park, which they
Speaker 1: now called Ted Watkins Park. They from Mississippi, but they
Speaker 1: moved to Carson, so the only thing cracking in south
Speaker 1: central LA was these shows that was hosted at where
Speaker 1: Rogers Park, and we would do these talent shows and
Speaker 1: Brandy used to say to me, at eleven years old,
Speaker 1: you a star, And it would make me so uncomfortable because,
Speaker 1: for one, I didn't know what it was. I didn't
Speaker 1: have no way of wrapping my head around this word.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was supposed to become. It's
Speaker 1: almost like somebody saying you're sexy, but you don't really
Speaker 1: know what it means. You don't know what clothes, what
Speaker 1: your haircut should be, or how do I embrace this
Speaker 1: word that someone is suddenly calling me. So, yeah, when
Speaker 1: I was when I was young, bro, my whole life,
Speaker 1: I've always been you know what people would define this magic,
Speaker 1: like I know how to make everybody feel good around me.
Speaker 1: I have this charm, this charisma, this energy that that
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a communicator. I've always been a communicator.
Speaker 1: I've always been considered an old soul. You know. There
Speaker 1: was nothing about me that that says, yeah, you were
Speaker 1: born and raised in south central LA. But it was
Speaker 1: very clear early on that I was born here, but
Speaker 1: I'm not of here. I'm not of this cripping and
Speaker 1: blood and gangster selling drugs, excessive force, murder, you know,
Speaker 1: anything that's going on, prostitution, whatever I grew up in
Speaker 1: and around my whole life. Nothing in me early on
Speaker 1: felt like the outcome of my life is going to
Speaker 1: be the environment that I grew up in. So sorry
Speaker 1: for the long ND. Yeah that's the truth. That's I
Speaker 1: for sure thought I was going to be in a
Speaker 1: gang when I was going up because that's all that
Speaker 1: was around me, you know. So as we run around
Speaker 1: little kids, seeing all the gangsters like that was the
Speaker 1: cool thing. Yeah, So I was like, shoot, let me
Speaker 1: call if just pitch fork in my arm. Let him
Speaker 1: know that I'm trying to I'm trying to be on.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be part of it. Pitch for it.
Speaker 1: You gotta explaining that Midwest, But what is what is
Speaker 1: the pitchfork me? That's just I don't need to be
Speaker 1: part of Okay, got you at the early age, but
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm making a parallel because I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't have this magical thing that you're having at that age.
Speaker 1: Like I was more invisible. But you know what, everything
Speaker 1: about singing or doing music, they look at you as
Speaker 1: soft when you were in the hood. If you were
Speaker 1: in the hood for real singing, it was fuck out
Speaker 1: of here what you're singing at? You know. I was
Speaker 1: just in the choir though I wasn't like, never did nothing.
Speaker 1: I was rapping. It's what I was doing because we
Speaker 1: got black Tie and her MC hurricane, So I was
Speaker 1: rapping out here today. MC herricane. Yeah, I've never heard
Speaker 1: that name. Yeah, I mean you know, yeah, I only
Speaker 1: pull it out. I was in a rap group called
Speaker 1: Triple Impact. Triple Impact, Triple that's three y'all. It was
Speaker 1: three my boy Michael, my boy Randy, three of us.
Speaker 1: So in the hood. You know that's that's what you did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm in Watts right next to Compton, right next
Speaker 1: to Lone be So the pressure to rap for me
Speaker 1: was on a whole nother strato field because we got
Speaker 1: NWA ice cube snoop out of Long Beach, like West
Speaker 1: Coast was the West Coast and what it became because
Speaker 1: of gangster rap on the West Coast. So you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be Nate dog, you know with
Speaker 1: my singing. And I was like, well, maybe the singing
Speaker 1: shit ain't for me, but you knew you could sing.
Speaker 1: You didn't know. I know. I did not know I
Speaker 1: could sing till I was like fourteen. But the talent
Speaker 1: shows with Brandy and ray J. You singing are rapping?
Speaker 1: Are you? Oh sorry? I was singing okay, But talent shows,
Speaker 1: talent shows and getting on stage to sing wasn't this
Speaker 1: definitive thing that I want to do this for my life.
Speaker 1: And other than being in that talent show singing, I
Speaker 1: didn't feel safe and it didn't feel welcome on any
Speaker 1: level in the hood. Get your singing ass, get your
Speaker 1: soft singing, whatever that may be. So you're in the
Speaker 1: rape when you go an audition for the commercial Are
Speaker 1: You the Rap? Thing happened many years before that, and
Speaker 1: then I started wrapping my head around singing, but did
Speaker 1: not know that I wanted to make it a career,
Speaker 1: you know, because all right, well here's this talent show,
Speaker 1: let me fall in. It's no different than nigga's playing
Speaker 1: basketball or you know. I played Pop Warner football, not
Speaker 1: no sports nigga like that. But I played because that's
Speaker 1: what you're doing in the hood, and you know, it's masculine,
Speaker 1: it's alpha. You ain't. You ain't doing no singing. That
Speaker 1: shit is soft, you know, on a hood level like
Speaker 1: where I'm from. So singing was discouraged, you know. And
Speaker 1: I wasn't singing in the church. So it's not like
Speaker 1: anybody who's in the hood is going to church just
Speaker 1: looking at this kids singing in the choir lead singing.
Speaker 1: None of that was happening. So I had no gateway
Speaker 1: into R and B, no gateway into boy, you sung
Speaker 1: your butt off the other day, I hope the Lord
Speaker 1: continue to use you. And I never had none of that.
Speaker 1: So my thing was skip church. Even though I was
Speaker 1: in church, I wasn't in church singing. Skip church and
Speaker 1: whatever energy that can create for me with my vocals
Speaker 1: in the hood and now go straight into too singing.
Speaker 1: It's crypts, bloods, gangsters, essays, police, prostitution, murder, and this
Speaker 1: nigga out here singing. Yeah, this nigga out here singing,
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up and let's get back to this cripper.
Speaker 1: That's just what it is. Nobody is surprised about anything
Speaker 1: that's happening for my life and career. They all knew.
Speaker 1: It was obvious that I had that oil on me
Speaker 1: and something was going to happen. And it was not
Speaker 1: like I'm, you know, holding good notes at three years
Speaker 1: old or playing the drums at three, or he's a
Speaker 1: he's a genius. I had none of that going. But
Speaker 1: once you met me seven, eight, ten, twelve years old,
Speaker 1: something was on my life. And it was very clear.
Speaker 1: Before I knew I could sing, before I knew anything
Speaker 1: about talent, I was already this, you know, as people
Speaker 1: would say or describe a magnet a star. Something about
Speaker 1: me had this energy on me that I'm whenever you
Speaker 1: figure out, whenever God figure out who and what you
Speaker 1: are destined to be, You're gonna be something. Yeah. To
Speaker 1: know that I have this aura or this magnetism or
Speaker 1: energy all over me everywhere I go, class clown cracking jokes.
Speaker 1: Something is on this guy. Can he sing? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Ken he rap? I don't know? Is he actor? I
Speaker 1: don't know. None of that was discovered back then. So
Speaker 1: after I did the co commercial and I was singing
Speaker 1: on the bus, that's when it confirmed in my own spirit. Okay,
Speaker 1: so maybe this singing thing is for you at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe saying things for you, because at that point I'm
Speaker 1: trying everything. I played baseball, football, basketball, I ran track,
Speaker 1: I was doing it. I was like, I gotta figure
Speaker 1: out what God has in mind. You played basketball? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see you can't play basketball, man, You see you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. Let him. I let him get
Speaker 1: away with football. I left. I let that slow it down,
Speaker 1: go easy. I was just gonna let him rock. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all right. Thank ain't good at everything. Tank ain't
Speaker 1: good with everything. As long as you got me there,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, bro, you think it's a crazy So I
Speaker 1: did not know what my talent was. I just knew,
Speaker 1: you know, think of me as a personality. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing I had. When it comes to cracking jokes
Speaker 1: and clowning. There's nobody at my school that could fuck
Speaker 1: with me. I would. They'd be like, yeah, oh oh,
Speaker 1: it'd be like bagging or cracking jokes like I was
Speaker 1: the king amongst my whole squad. So once the CO
Speaker 1: commercial happened, the Hollywood thing would have been check out
Speaker 1: of school. You're famous. I felt more. I felt more
Speaker 1: safe at school than anywhere else I went because everything
Speaker 1: about me cracking jokes and having a community of my tribe,
Speaker 1: all my hood niggas, everybody from my school that was
Speaker 1: school for me, and I did not want to graduate.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I did not want to check out because
Speaker 1: of this sudden fame. So so you're the Coca Cola man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going crazy. Who calls you and says, I think
Speaker 1: we have a meeting for a record deal for you.
Speaker 1: There's a twenty record label bidding war when we had
Speaker 1: labels off for the commercial off the CO commercial, So goodness.
Speaker 1: Daryl Jones, who we all love from, Daryl Jones was
Speaker 1: literally sent summoned by Andre Horrell to come to my campus.
Speaker 1: He was literally sent to Lock High School when I
Speaker 1: was sixteen. Andre Horrell said go find him he reached
Speaker 1: out to my music teacher, Reggie Andrews said, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can come in and meet him. So now all these
Speaker 1: record labels is trying to sign the kids from the
Speaker 1: co commercial. They're now showing up on my campus in school.
Speaker 1: Daryl Jones, sixteen years old was on my campus like
Speaker 1: an NBA scout courting me. He told you, he who
Speaker 1: shut up, different kind of who according me doing whatever
Speaker 1: it takes to charm and give me whatever energy like honey, busy,
Speaker 1: we kind of fooled you, like you know. So he's
Speaker 1: at my school. Bro a few times Daryl Jones showed up,
Speaker 1: popping up, popping up. Andre Horrell said, there is no
Speaker 1: way we are not going to sign this kid at
Speaker 1: the time. Rest in peace to the Big Homy who
Speaker 1: was a legend icon. We love you, We honor you.
Speaker 1: Um we had the honor of giving you your flowers
Speaker 1: while you was with us. But Andre Horrel, with my
Speaker 1: knowledge today, would have been the better choice. Mary J. Blige,
Speaker 1: Heavy d All Joda see all of it. You know
Speaker 1: this is a guy, a real music guy, not just
Speaker 1: an executive, not a figurehead of Labom, a real guy artist, development,
Speaker 1: the visuals, the videos, really not giving the artists an
Speaker 1: opportunity to mold and shape the direction and create art
Speaker 1: and music. Um, but Andre didn't offer the bag. I
Speaker 1: already knew it. Already knew he's gonna say that Urca
Speaker 1: offered the bag. What kind of bag was it? Uh?
Speaker 1: Two and a half million at sixteen sixteen two point
Speaker 1: five two and a half, Yeah, you were two and
Speaker 1: a half million dollars is in nineteen ninety twenty three.
Speaker 1: A lot of still stretch, Yeah, stretch, But obviously that's
Speaker 1: not two and a half million dollars that was given
Speaker 1: to me, and that's the budget, that's the you know,
Speaker 1: the cost of the album, the videos, just whatever. So yeah,
Speaker 1: two and a half mil I bought my first house,
Speaker 1: a sixteen four bedroom, two car garages right off the
Speaker 1: golf course and Hawthorne. Yeah. So they said there was
Speaker 1: a one nigga that was a hood nigga walked up
Speaker 1: to me. If you're sensitive about the N word, sorry,
Speaker 1: there was a hood nigga that said to me, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you've never seen this kind of money. He said, Man,
Speaker 1: you know because it's so crazy because all my real
Speaker 1: ones from South central La Watts to this day. Bro,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people name dropping and telling stories.
Speaker 1: You know, you got history versus history. All my real ones.
Speaker 1: They're all so happy for me to this day, not jealous.
Speaker 1: Give me real love. Doesn't matter what I'm doing and
Speaker 1: how far in between I see him all love. So
Speaker 1: a hood nigga walked up to me. He said, Hey, Reese,
Speaker 1: go kill that ship, bro, exact words, go kill that ship. Bro.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, any nigga ever try and come at you,
Speaker 1: don't try and be us. We do this cript shit
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, seven days a week. We do this
Speaker 1: for real. If anybody ever try and come at you,
Speaker 1: just call us. We don't need to be with you,
Speaker 1: need to be a part of your click, your entourage traveling.
Speaker 1: Most of US's hood niggas, we don't like the lead
Speaker 1: a hood anyway. Go do your thing, and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: don't be one of them should or would have cut us.
Speaker 1: Go buy a house, Go make certain investments, because if
Speaker 1: the shit hits the fan a year or two from
Speaker 1: now and nobody's calling your name, just have something to
Speaker 1: show for. And not only did I buy one, I
Speaker 1: bought two hours before I was twenty two. If I
Speaker 1: got one hit out of it and it's over. I
Speaker 1: at least own a home with equity. Let I'm talking,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that one hit because Nigga boy, sweet
Speaker 1: motherfucking lighting, Praise God. Takee and the characters and the
Speaker 1: character before there was an Underdogs that was the character.
Speaker 1: Yes there was. Listen. I remember the first time I
Speaker 1: heard that record, I'm like, oh, he's out of here
Speaker 1: because I had seen the commercial and I'm like, oh, dude, dope.
Speaker 1: Because as singers, you can hear the smallest little inflections,
Speaker 1: little things or what you making the fun huh, Because
Speaker 1: because as singers, did you say no. I mean, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not from LA. I don't play No Blood,
Speaker 1: but I don't play No l a game. I'm from
Speaker 1: the band no different. It comes from young Blood, it
Speaker 1: comes from yet Megang for the movie. But so I hear,
Speaker 1: you know, as like we said, we hear things as singers,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, he got it. He called that
Speaker 1: nigga tough. Even from that little piece that you sang
Speaker 1: on that commercial wasn't oh it isn't a full song,
Speaker 1: it ain't nothing. But I was like, he got something.
Speaker 1: But then you just know music, It's like what comes next.
Speaker 1: Sweet lady bro Sweet lady versus was I don't want no,
Speaker 1: And that's when I That's when I was like. That's
Speaker 1: when I was like, Because I was at a performance
Speaker 1: you were doing and I was watching you warm up,
Speaker 1: and when you're warming up, you die the backflip. I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this nigga really trying to be this
Speaker 1: nigga really want to be me? Oh you flip flip flip.
Speaker 1: I stopped playing twenty hands Rings in the row, Sherman
Speaker 1: started traveling in your front yard. What are you saying?
Speaker 1: What do you say? I have a flip at the nigga?
Speaker 1: Are we doing double back double flip flop flip flop
Speaker 1: backs on grass? What are you talking about? I did
Speaker 1: double backs on grass. I'm talking about grass. You don't
Speaker 1: want that work? Yeah, you don't want this work? Come
Speaker 1: about the same thing. Can't do a double back right now,
Speaker 1: you guys that don't know. These guys are born two
Speaker 1: days apart, so I know it's double triple back? Can
Speaker 1: impact trip back? When I saw you do that, and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, because I wasn't out yet, I
Speaker 1: was kind of signed RCA, but I wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't working, so I was just kind of following
Speaker 1: you around, still following genuine around. I was like, you
Speaker 1: did that backflip? I was like, oh, he's good. It
Speaker 1: was a part of my he's going in the hood
Speaker 1: man on pissie battresses in the field, easy backflip. But
Speaker 1: then Sweet Lady came out me clip from Jerry sitting
Speaker 1: upstairs something like this. Yeah it was. It wasn't no
Speaker 1: turning back and what are you about? Seventeen now right?
Speaker 1: Took about a year between um the album was released
Speaker 1: in ninety eight. I did nobody else. First of all,
Speaker 1: I was a video vixen first for our sure, well
Speaker 1: you know it's a vixen paying my dudes. Yeah no,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't before Sweet Lady. It was. It was
Speaker 1: before nobody else. It was, was it? Yes, I just
Speaker 1: knew you, So that's why I'm thinking. Yeah, I did
Speaker 1: my way video with I never realized that Frank Frank
Speaker 1: Gatson shout out to Frank Gatson on the plug. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know I was shout out Frank Gatson for that.
Speaker 1: I don't why not, I would he was he was
Speaker 1: doing the whole video. Yeah, I just as soon think
Speaker 1: that was the look. You don't think that was you
Speaker 1: had this happening. You don't think I should have did
Speaker 1: that video? Dude, Wow, you gonna say this twenty some
Speaker 1: years later, I'm sorry tanked the videos out there. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like it's like it's like when Prince turned
Speaker 1: down bad. There was nothing compromising about doing the my
Speaker 1: Way video with with with Prince telling stories about what
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson wanted him to do. No, Michael Jackson wanted
Speaker 1: him to be the villain in the video, but there
Speaker 1: were some things that he wanted him to either say
Speaker 1: or it would just be the feeling I'm gonna beat
Speaker 1: you up. I win got you in the first lyrical
Speaker 1: songs Your but it's mine. He's like, I should I
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. I shoul didn't do that. He know
Speaker 1: he he told you he liked it his way. Okay,
Speaker 1: pause twenty something later. No, he's saying that to the girls.
Speaker 1: He's saying to your girl, she likes it. She telling
Speaker 1: you about your girl. Your girl like it my way?
Speaker 1: Look out. I mean he definitely took your bride. He
Speaker 1: took your girl. Did he take my girl? Yes? I
Speaker 1: need to look at the video cut. This feeling has
Speaker 1: been festering for years. But that wasn't a good look.
Speaker 1: She likes it my way, and he took my girl.
Speaker 1: Wasn't my girl? It's his video. It was a girl
Speaker 1: you want it? That's why you had to tell you
Speaker 1: whoa bro? She like my way? Whoa Coca Cola? Who?
Speaker 1: Who Coca cola? Whoa bottom? Whoa bottom? Man? She like
Speaker 1: it my way? Right? Even I didn't even know what
Speaker 1: sweet Lady was, but any songs I made like Sweet
Speaker 1: Lady did not know. Was it written for you? Yes?
Speaker 1: It was. No, it was Taylor for you. No, John
Speaker 1: Tay Austin wrote it when he was sixteen for him
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, Hella was a song that they were
Speaker 1: sitting on elevator, but they didn't. Yeah, Troy Taylor, God
Speaker 1: bless you to this day. I stuck to the formula.
Speaker 1: I don't sing backgrounds. The backgrounds on my first single
Speaker 1: for two thousand wats Jave Valentine, We ain't got there yet?
Speaker 1: Sung all you know that song? I like them girls,
Speaker 1: all of the vocals, some live still. Yeah, you said,
Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, I'm gonna get a shot. Listen, We'll
Speaker 1: keep all up it and listen it was that was
Speaker 1: never the intention. Yo. You you hit thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Many years later, Jay Valentine, they would be no,
Speaker 1: I like them, girls would ask Ja Valentine, that ain't
Speaker 1: doing good? Can you give it to us? Hell no,
Speaker 1: you're a singer. I know y'all new song it was fly.
Speaker 1: You can't give us. We're not skipping steps? Can you come?
Speaker 1: I just want three fans. You're not taking over the Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta take over a spirit? Calm? Can I guess
Speaker 1: the water? Relax? I got to have the room. You
Speaker 1: guys have water to this guy just right there, right there,
Speaker 1: your waters right there. I got relax, like he's skipping steps.
Speaker 1: Then you go again skipping Give me first of all.
Speaker 1: First of all, first of all, sir, y'all didn't give
Speaker 1: me no pre interview to tell me the structure and
Speaker 1: what we're gonna cover and whatever secrets well we're covering?
Speaker 1: Is you okay? And I just wanted him to give
Speaker 1: to love and sing. I liked them so yet what
Speaker 1: we still on? Sweet lady? I just tell you what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, sing monkey, no single money with the baby here?
Speaker 1: All right? We were talking about Troy Taylor singing on
Speaker 1: the background, and I went to the obvious you did
Speaker 1: it before, Troy, I like, no, that's not sweet, ladies,
Speaker 1: super smash, You're you're you're on track to be extremely successful.
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be a two part it's absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah, absolutely, And going on to extreme you
Speaker 1: said what and you're going on tours, so it's gotta
Speaker 1: be a two part and go ahead? Extremely successful. At
Speaker 1: this point, are you are you really starting to understand
Speaker 1: what's happening. No, you have no idea, no, no clue. Wow,
Speaker 1: completely in disbelief. Going back to that humility and humble
Speaker 1: and gratitude, which I'm still humbling, grateful, but you're not
Speaker 1: that humble. He might be grateful, you're not that humble.
Speaker 1: I was talking to him. Is this what y'all do?
Speaker 1: Is he just he's throwing logs and I heard go back,
Speaker 1: I hurt you. Okay, So I don't see. Let's address that.
Speaker 1: I don't think Tyrese is not humble. I just think
Speaker 1: said he was born with the glove. I just he
Speaker 1: didn't say he just I just I just I just
Speaker 1: think he shouldn't say anything wrong with that. And I
Speaker 1: didn't say it about myself. This is what you upset
Speaker 1: about it. You said, you said you felt it your bar.
Speaker 1: You can't cut clothe. I just think Tyreech is a
Speaker 1: ty is just a strong personality and anything he says.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was born with a glow.
Speaker 1: It could be taken like as a baby, as a
Speaker 1: as a baby, as a baby when the doctor pulled
Speaker 1: me out, it's like a lights and and my mom
Speaker 1: was like, what's that shine? And he was like, that's
Speaker 1: your baby. You know what it says. That's basically what
Speaker 1: you said. You just what your baby? Is that a halo? Like?
Speaker 1: Get some kind of got My shouldn't be sliding? Send
Speaker 1: the budget. You had your feet up, slide. You're doing
Speaker 1: everything you can't. The seat should not be sliding like
Speaker 1: this because I won't be the first in the last
Speaker 1: to laugh. Everybody has that seat until you can't. All right, whatever,
Speaker 1: sending the budget, they'll crow out. R and B Money
Speaker 1: podcast with the slide and seats go back, go back
Speaker 1: to what you're saying that you'll see the slide. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting on the strong personality, strong in believing in what
Speaker 1: he feels and and sometimes you cannot hear what he's
Speaker 1: saying versus versus how you feel it's being conveyed, because
Speaker 1: when Terrys talks, it's like it's theater talk. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you learn that ving rams or no, if
Speaker 1: that was just you know, when you talk, it's like
Speaker 1: it's a it's a moment, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So you being able to control rooms, but you got
Speaker 1: the same thing, dang, no, no, no, okay, you don't
Speaker 1: have a strong I have a strong voice, but your
Speaker 1: natural entrance as soon as you walk in the room,
Speaker 1: you're already there. Hey, what's going on? Everybody? How you doing? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, like you're it's immediate, y'all. Funny man.
Speaker 1: But I mean, but and so people can term R
Speaker 1: and B money podcast. Uh you're a fan, no, not
Speaker 1: just a paper twel in the budget? Yeah yeah, listen
Speaker 1: to budget? And then does your paper towel? Uh? Does
Speaker 1: it is gonna leave anyway. Let me let me just
Speaker 1: get you, Let me get you some Let me get
Speaker 1: you some air. No, I'm I don't want air. I'm cool.
Speaker 1: I just want to wipe off this uh, this this gloss,
Speaker 1: you know, set, Yeah, got to worry about that. I
Speaker 1: know what happens when you got curls. He goes here.
Speaker 1: But anyway, um, yeah, you have no idea. Get you
Speaker 1: about to sell a boatload of records and go crazy, um,
Speaker 1: amazing moment, amazing song. And then because I want to,
Speaker 1: I want to jump to Jay Valentine and I like
Speaker 1: them girls. But there's a backstory to this. Yeah all right,
Speaker 1: I please, I don't remember no no, no, no, so
Speaker 1: because before the record was just us kicking it. You
Speaker 1: come out of the studio. At this point, I'm working
Speaker 1: with Damon Thomas and one night we're just in there,
Speaker 1: we vibing. Man, we're working, and You're like, Jay, I
Speaker 1: got a long ride. You want to roll with me?
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, nigga, we're talking about? We en't and
Speaker 1: see though, I'm like where you live because I'm you know,
Speaker 1: my whole thing too. I'm like we're both young, eighteen
Speaker 1: years old at the time. I think, I'm like, Dn
Speaker 1: this nigga got drive wherever it sounds far. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta go to Hawthorne. Where the fuck is Hardthorn? Nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm not from here. I'm like, what is Hawthorne about?
Speaker 1: An hour or something about from here. I'm like, fuck, Nigga,
Speaker 1: Gil tripped me. I'm like, all right, dog because he
Speaker 1: you know, Nigga, when the studio we're working, we're doing
Speaker 1: a little shit. Not no, we ain't moved to know.
Speaker 1: I like them girls. This is down the line. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck it, bro, I roll with you man,
Speaker 1: this nigga get the Hawthorne. I'm thinking this nigga sleepy.
Speaker 1: So we get to this nigga house. He got drums
Speaker 1: in the garage. I'm like, tired, Nigga. The guest room, niggat,
Speaker 1: it's you in this big ass house by yourself. A townhouse.
Speaker 1: Nigga showed me my room was not a townhouse. What
Speaker 1: was it? There was a four bedroom house. Oh, he go.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't disrespect six of sixteen. Don't down play.
Speaker 1: You're not sixteen now. I was eighteen. I was eighteen.
Speaker 1: I was still in mind. It was a house. He
Speaker 1: had a house man. But they were connecting. I'll be
Speaker 1: trying to hear me. Hear me. I'm trying to maintain
Speaker 1: that he's humble, that he has not and I said
Speaker 1: this a long time and he's not tired. It's three
Speaker 1: to four in the morning, he liked. So I'm still
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still trying to find my room at this
Speaker 1: nigga's house. Man. I'm like, I ain't never been here.
Speaker 1: Where do I go? No? No, not, coming real quick,
Speaker 1: come real quick. He grabs a stack of papers. I
Speaker 1: don't know what these stack of papers are. I've never
Speaker 1: seen a movie script before. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: He like, look at that part right there. You read
Speaker 1: that part. I'm gonna read this part. What three four
Speaker 1: in the morning. Bro, he didn't play drums. Now, somehow, somehow,
Speaker 1: I'm his co star in this movie that will become
Speaker 1: baby Boy. Wow. And I'm reading lines back from it
Speaker 1: and I don't remember the lines. I think I'm probably
Speaker 1: Omar Gooding. Part might be being ranked. But I see
Speaker 1: what you motherfucker. But he but he's like, he's not.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, j J. Just read those parts. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna readmind back. And I'm watching him transform into Jody
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, this nigga can act. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it to him, yeah, but I'm thinking
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm like, damn, bro, like this nigga
Speaker 1: just handing me the stack of papers that with all
Speaker 1: you know, I said, you know, we'll become a script.
Speaker 1: And he's he going through the ship and he go
Speaker 1: full South Central La. You know what I mean, Twist
Speaker 1: the voice a little bit. Everything is a little a little,
Speaker 1: a little extra out. I'm like, damn, this is cool man,
Speaker 1: this nigga. Really he got some other ship that he's
Speaker 1: that's brewing. John Single John that just came to my
Speaker 1: house probably two days before you came and made me
Speaker 1: read the Baby Boys script cover the cover. I had
Speaker 1: been running from John Singleton Rest in Peace for like
Speaker 1: six years. I remember I used to host on HIMTV,
Speaker 1: MTV Jams Compdown so John everywhere I went, and ice
Speaker 1: Cube can tell this story everybody John has ever pursued,
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that the sound facetious or be facetious.
Speaker 1: He pursued me as an actor and would not let
Speaker 1: up until I finally did a film. So he actually
Speaker 1: wanted me to do Shaft and that role that Busta
Speaker 1: Rhymes had in the film was something that he wanted
Speaker 1: me to do and I told him no because I
Speaker 1: was so on a music high that I had been
Speaker 1: chasing for I don't know three four years. Whoever it was,
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine myself being on the movie set and
Speaker 1: as corny and as crazy as this sound. I didn't
Speaker 1: want none of my homies to say I went Hollywood
Speaker 1: and the movie would be Hollywood. The movie would be Hollywood.
Speaker 1: But now that I know what I know about the phrase,
Speaker 1: which is stupid as hell, like it cost this this, this,
Speaker 1: this twist in this word cost me so many opportunities
Speaker 1: and so much money. Have no idea that nigga Hollywood.
Speaker 1: That's what I never wanted them to say about. But
Speaker 1: being Hollywood or going Hollywood, it's not because it's an
Speaker 1: acting choice. It's a personality type. When your nose is
Speaker 1: up in the air, you think you too boogie, fancy,
Speaker 1: too rich. You I can all arrogant, stuck up stand
Speaker 1: office and this and that. Now you Oh nigga, you change.
Speaker 1: You can do that anywhere any But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's a general hood words. Yeah, in the phrase that's
Speaker 1: been thrown out there forever people back. Yeah, oh nigga,
Speaker 1: you changed has killed many careers. Yeah, that nigga went Hollywood,
Speaker 1: he acting brand new has killed many careers. So you
Speaker 1: end up getting away from every dream, all the shit
Speaker 1: that keeps you up at night. You get away from
Speaker 1: it because you're so concerned about your homies, thinking that
Speaker 1: you're gonna change on them. And then I don't. At
Speaker 1: forty four years old, I could say, you fucking right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change got them right, you fucking right? You know.
Speaker 1: And so if you think of me as Hollywood, I
Speaker 1: got ten billion in box office on my name, So
Speaker 1: I'm not Hollywood meaning personality. All my real ones. Love
Speaker 1: is love. Um, but I not want to do movies
Speaker 1: after John chased me for six some years because I
Speaker 1: was afraid of homies in the hood. I grew up
Speaker 1: with saying you changed and you in Hollywood. Wow, And
Speaker 1: imagine that tea. Imagine missing a classic shaft, shaft baby boy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, because you've already missed you already, But you
Speaker 1: have been running from them, yeah for that long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And something as you go into you know, the chosen
Speaker 1: speech or the divine always finding a way to make
Speaker 1: sure you get what you need for the journey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what made me do the movie. Um,
Speaker 1: it wasn't me. No cool running lines with you did
Speaker 1: not get me further than to suck up your whole.
Speaker 1: I know you want to be able to say, as
Speaker 1: the light spanned man with the base milk cream sugar
Speaker 1: sweater with the stripes. I want you to be able
Speaker 1: to if it wasn't for me, because he just he
Speaker 1: just but the baby boys not included with me. No,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you what happened. John Singleton said
Speaker 1: to me that he wrote the movie for Tupac. Tupac
Speaker 1: was supposed to be Jody, and he literally wrote that
Speaker 1: movie with Pac in mind because they had already done
Speaker 1: a couple of things poetic justice blah blah blah. So
Speaker 1: when Poc got killed in ninety six, he basically it
Speaker 1: was never announced, He was never in pre production. It
Speaker 1: was just something that he was writing with Tupac in
Speaker 1: mine and and so yeah, when he when he got
Speaker 1: killed in Vegas, John was depressed for years because that
Speaker 1: was his best friend, um soul mate. You know, they
Speaker 1: just they just linked and clicked up. You know. John
Speaker 1: was always a super weirdo, but he a hood nigga,
Speaker 1: and he just he loved who he loved, and he
Speaker 1: loved me. He loved Pock, he loved Cube and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. So yeah, when he told me the story
Speaker 1: about the fact that he wrote this movie for a
Speaker 1: Tupac and he has not met anyone before me, that
Speaker 1: reminds He's like these his words, not mine. You remind
Speaker 1: me of Poc. You loud, you're funny, your alpha, you know,
Speaker 1: you got all and then you was raised by your mama.
Speaker 1: You know, no father in the house. A Phoenie Shakor
Speaker 1: raised pot. So he was making all these connections to
Speaker 1: Poc to me and he said, you remind me of Poc.
Speaker 1: You vocal, you outspoken, You're not afraid of no controversy, politics, life, love, spirituality.
Speaker 1: You know. I wasn't book studied like Pock. But he said,
Speaker 1: you remind me of Pock. I'm not talking about rapping
Speaker 1: about just as an overall energy. And when he said
Speaker 1: that to me, that fucked me up and it created
Speaker 1: it created a feeling in me that was never there
Speaker 1: from just him chasing me to be a movie star.
Speaker 1: I wasn't interested in that. I was out here getting
Speaker 1: some some real sweet lady vaginal activity. I was the
Speaker 1: vaginal activity was cracking, and I wanted no parts of
Speaker 1: hitting the pause button on this level of juice that
Speaker 1: was flowing. Okay, that's real shit, listen. I was very
Speaker 1: happy that I wasn't heavily associated to the church, you know,
Speaker 1: because there was there was nobody able to play on
Speaker 1: me and say, oh, look at them, he's singing in
Speaker 1: the church. Now he I his single devil music with
Speaker 1: all these groups around you know, shit the tankers dealt
Speaker 1: with that wasn't my story. So I was never heavily
Speaker 1: associated to anything like what groupies are you? I've always
Speaker 1: been an upstanding church, uh, sir? Remember of church, sir,
Speaker 1: you're not only not only were you born and raised
Speaker 1: in the church, but you're also preach a PK. You
Speaker 1: your pastor's kid. Um, so you're all the way grandkid, yeah,
Speaker 1: pkk um. Okay, So okay, so grandfather, my grandfather, I'm
Speaker 1: ak my grandmother, Oh praise God. Yeah, I'm playing my grandfather,
Speaker 1: Mary Jean Giles. My grandfather was a pastor, Okay, so
Speaker 1: we're one of the same. Yeah. Yeah, my grandfather rest
Speaker 1: in peace. Name was Reverend Ellis. Yeah okay. The woman
Speaker 1: he got pregnant name was Bobby Gibson. And back in
Speaker 1: the day, back in that era, if you ever got
Speaker 1: had a child when you wasn't married, then the child
Speaker 1: would automatically get the woman's last name. So my grandfather Ellis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you'd have been Tyrese Ellis, you'd have been able
Speaker 1: to hoop. Ellis is a great people last name. Just
Speaker 1: the arms right there, No, no, sir. So my grandfather
Speaker 1: had a major church in Saint Louis, Reverend Ellis. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, just like you man, we love speaking,
Speaker 1: we love pouring spirituality, putting our motivational inspirational out there,
Speaker 1: pouring pouring into people. We love pouring in. It is
Speaker 1: a natural thing for us to want to help an
Speaker 1: uplift and build. I got five thousand videos all over
Speaker 1: YouTube with my motivational inspirational stuff because I first of all,
Speaker 1: I want people to know I've never said this publicly.
Speaker 1: I want people to know that I do carry a
Speaker 1: particular level of guilt about being this successful. It wears
Speaker 1: on me. And so my way of giving it all
Speaker 1: away is to write the longest captions and to post
Speaker 1: and put up my inspirational videos and do interviews where
Speaker 1: I'm talking and pouring. Because there is somebody who wanted
Speaker 1: to commit suicide before they've seen this interview that we're
Speaker 1: doing right now, and if you understand the responsibility of
Speaker 1: the stage and the platform not just on some groupie
Speaker 1: and fun and bling bling and what you're driving or
Speaker 1: what you're living in. As we all know, multi millionaires
Speaker 1: killed themselves every day. People that got the biggest homes
Speaker 1: and private planes, they killed themselves every day, Which means
Speaker 1: that you may be broke and feel like if I
Speaker 1: had money, then maybe these suicide thoughts wouldn't be there.
Speaker 1: Suicide thoughts will still follow you into your bigger net worth.
Speaker 1: So for us to have the stage, in the platform
Speaker 1: and the voice and not use it to benefit people
Speaker 1: who believe in us and don't believe in Jesus, talk
Speaker 1: about it. There's people out here who don't have no
Speaker 1: nothing that they've tapped into. And the fact that I
Speaker 1: continue posting about the goodness of the Lord Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: and I say the Lord Jesus Christ is my Lord
Speaker 1: and savior. There is no such thing as inhaling and
Speaker 1: exhaling without God. The fact that I'm even sitting here
Speaker 1: to talk about anything that's ever been achieved and done
Speaker 1: is because these are the things that God had in
Speaker 1: mind for me and had in mind for y'all. And
Speaker 1: who are you to be threatened and insecure and intimidated
Speaker 1: about what somebody else have when I didn't even think
Speaker 1: I would ever have it for myself. So I do
Speaker 1: carry a particular level of guilt, which is why I
Speaker 1: always go out of my way to give it all away.
Speaker 1: Now what I say and how often I say it
Speaker 1: may not work for people for something, and that's fine,
Speaker 1: but guess what you may be eyed in your life.
Speaker 1: So all its rambling and long ass capturing all this
Speaker 1: motivations you got going on that ain't for me. I'd
Speaker 1: rather go listen to jay Z or go listen to
Speaker 1: somebody else. Go listen to Kanye, Go listen to somebody
Speaker 1: else talk about whatever it is they're talking about. So
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of social media unfollowed. But as far
Speaker 1: as you following me, I just need you'll to understand
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of friends. These are my
Speaker 1: closest friends sitting right here, and I don't see you
Speaker 1: all that often, and we live up the street from
Speaker 1: each other. Because I don't necessarily want people around me
Speaker 1: like that. So my way of feeling like I'm giving
Speaker 1: it all away and I'm returning the love and feeling
Speaker 1: the pressure of success. You becoming successful. It's not going
Speaker 1: to be because you see me pull up in the
Speaker 1: rolls Royce. I have a responsibility to give people the
Speaker 1: information and the details of what I did and how
Speaker 1: I went about it in order for them to go, oh, man,
Speaker 1: that's how you got it. Don't be inspired by the
Speaker 1: nigga with the shiny building. Be inspired by the man
Speaker 1: that's willing to tell you the details of how we
Speaker 1: got the shiny building, because it's not lonely at the top.
Speaker 1: If you help somebody else get there so long before
Speaker 1: I even got on. That's who I am. That's always
Speaker 1: who I've been. The reason my phone rings and people
Speaker 1: want to have those conversations with the gun in their hand,
Speaker 1: and we've all gotten that call from somebody at some point.
Speaker 1: I don't know why God trusted you to call me
Speaker 1: in this moment, but I first want to tell you
Speaker 1: I thank God for you just being willing to call me,
Speaker 1: to tell me that this is what's on your mind
Speaker 1: and we're gonna figure it out and it happens. So
Speaker 1: I just want y'all to know, like, yeah, singing is cool.
Speaker 1: Being a movie star is cool. But I feel like
Speaker 1: that's a gateway into what God is using me for.
Speaker 1: And and some of my messages, some of my approaches
Speaker 1: to the message may make you feel a way, it
Speaker 1: might be uncomfortable. You might though he's trolling. Oh, he's
Speaker 1: so annoying, he's cringe word. I've seen it all in
Speaker 1: my comments. But it hasn't stopped me from pouring into
Speaker 1: people because you never know who, when, where, and why
Speaker 1: someone needed that message at that very moment. Not as
Speaker 1: a pastor, how as a prophet, not as someone at
Speaker 1: the pool pit. Just me understanding my stage or my
Speaker 1: platform and wanting to build anybody who's willing to let
Speaker 1: me build them up. That's why I do it. And
Speaker 1: even the way we got into this conversation, you know,
Speaker 1: vaginal activity, Yes, they deserve untreated wood. Yeah, going back.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a great segue though, because we were
Speaker 1: talking about I like them girls going back, So you
Speaker 1: I want to say this before he went TD Jackson
Speaker 1: t jas um, you know, and and this is no disrespect, um, no,
Speaker 1: no disrespect to Tupacs your core. Um. He's he's he's um,
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely amazing, phenomenal human being. You were perfect
Speaker 1: for that movie. I was perfect for because Park never
Speaker 1: got a chance to do it. I can't speak to that.
Speaker 1: What I can speak to is this, this movie, this role.
Speaker 1: You were so great and so I hate to use
Speaker 1: the word perfect, but I mean why not. He was
Speaker 1: so perfect in that in in that role and in
Speaker 1: that movie that no matter what you do, you will
Speaker 1: never be able to shed that ever, no what I
Speaker 1: ever tried, you will always be a part of for sure,
Speaker 1: no matter what they see. Baby, And you're gonna have Listen,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have fastest and furiousnesses and transformers and everything
Speaker 1: else that you're going into parmacists pharmacists and and full
Speaker 1: brothers wasting black and black like you're gonna You're you're
Speaker 1: gonna have successes, you know, continue to have successes beyond
Speaker 1: your wildest dreams, right based in based on your disbelief.
Speaker 1: But that thing right there, that starting point right there,
Speaker 1: What a building block, What a foundational block to have
Speaker 1: your building standing on that great Now, I have I
Speaker 1: have a question. Okay, thank you the girls, Let's hold out.
Speaker 1: That's the start of part two. Okay, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I just have a question. I have a question. You
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