WEBVTT - Tyrese Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Money. We are take Take Valencine. We are the authority

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<v Speaker 1>on all things R and B ladies and gentlemen. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Take. I'm Jay Valentine. And this it's the

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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money Podcast. What you said again, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the R Money Yeah podcast? A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money, A whole lot of whole lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>and to be authority on all things yeah, yeah, harm

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<v Speaker 1>b Oh you see me, you see me? You see

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<v Speaker 1>me weaving? Oh, they've been waiting. Yeah, they've been, won't

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<v Speaker 1>They've been in the compart. They've been at the comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he when we gonna see he? Huh? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>coming to see you? We got a man in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>My god? Who we got it? My god? We have

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<v Speaker 1>we have one of the greatest talents our generation has

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen. Oh one of them we have. We have

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. Uh. The boy. The boy loves to

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<v Speaker 1>call himself chocolate. That's what that's call said. He let

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<v Speaker 1>a shout out to the ladies. How many ladies want

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<v Speaker 1>this chocolate? That's that's what he says. The man is

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<v Speaker 1>gross over a billion dollars at the box office, ten billion,

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<v Speaker 1>ten billion dollars at the box office. Nine short they

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<v Speaker 1>want to see him all the time. Ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks some noise for my brother. So you told you,

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<v Speaker 1>you told me you how to disclaimer? Oh yeah you want.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I'm so happy to be here, many.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of my favorite shows that I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>been on yet. This is for real, man. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>happy for y'all. I just want to put y'all. Put

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<v Speaker 1>y'all at ease real quick. If you sensitive, don't watch this. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't do well with tough topics and people

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<v Speaker 1>being raw and unfiltered, just go go look at something.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much shit going on on social media, just

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<v Speaker 1>swipe and keep going. Were about to unpack this R

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<v Speaker 1>and B conversation, were about to talk about whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is we're thinking and feeling. I feel safe here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these are my brothers. I might drop a tier two.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a scheduled tier scheduled Tier three five,

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<v Speaker 1>three forty five. If you just tune around, you stick

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<v Speaker 1>around at three forty five, that's scheduled tier. It's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm happy to be here, man. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive man being your feelings about brown men having conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about real shit, just just go away. Man, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>about to get real. First of all, to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>flowers to you, my brother, Manum flowers to you, my brother.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know what this is. And ninety eight when

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<v Speaker 1>we met and and I had to, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>had to vocally kick your ass. Oh wow, we started

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<v Speaker 1>on like that. He's saying, row of them, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things right there. Um, but you've been at a

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<v Speaker 1>high level ever since, ever since. That is not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is unheard of. Soap flowers, UM for continuing to

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<v Speaker 1>be great. Thank you and representing UM for the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it, UM the right way. And now let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into the wrong way, not in the wrong way. J

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<v Speaker 1>is like I've never seen this. Let's get he's getting ready. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, first, here's another disclaimer. Our liais the

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<v Speaker 1>tg T liais all the guy who everybody felt comfortable having,

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<v Speaker 1>the con top conversationist, our therapist. He's here. He can

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<v Speaker 1>bounce for all of this cd DJ. So back to you,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother, to chime in here and there. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you guys do your thing, but I will chime in. Okay, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no that I won't say why did you break up?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did I break up. That's a big it's a loader,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a loader question. But it's not fair. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's go here. Let's go here. You walk into the

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<v Speaker 1>office of Atlantic. I'm sitting down. Deal is done, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're discussing percentages and that recess to us. I feel that.

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<v Speaker 1>But my market share the first time a nigga had

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<v Speaker 1>ever told me. But that's all that matters, nigga saying

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<v Speaker 1>I get more money, ya know, my market share, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's significantly more. They just left all that shit up

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<v Speaker 1>to you, two brothers. So I respect you, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even because it's not even. It can't be even.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't be even. Look at me, look a look

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<v Speaker 1>at you, look at you. And it was angry. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a tough conversation because because I didn't like it, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like to see take go gulp ge because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even give neither one of them the heads

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<v Speaker 1>up that I was going to present my market share.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I didn't know when you when you around around,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming up and it was schematics. I gotta gauge, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I had to I have to. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to defend myselfles. We ain't gonna be out

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<v Speaker 1>here crazy all right, without even getting into no numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>because that ain't nobody's business. What the conversation was, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do shows that often, concerts that often. When

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<v Speaker 1>I finally do shows, rather I drop every year every

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<v Speaker 1>five six years, I'm able to demand a certain number,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Tank was getting his number, g was getting

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<v Speaker 1>his number. Now, if music was the only thing, it

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<v Speaker 1>was the only thing I did, then all of our

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<v Speaker 1>numbers would probably look the same, because there's no such

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<v Speaker 1>thing as paying your bills and feeding your family. What

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<v Speaker 1>i't doing concerts when you're an artists. So everything about

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<v Speaker 1>me doing movies became an accidental blessing, right because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing these movies. I'm getting this money over here, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't gotta do fifty sixty seventy shows a year

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<v Speaker 1>as far as concerts, so when I do my shows,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm able to get the number that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I deserved. And so the conversation was TGT januine, Tank tyres,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we split it three ways? And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that just didn't work for me at the time. And

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<v Speaker 1>so as we either signed the deal or was about

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<v Speaker 1>decide the deal. I just had to put that on

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<v Speaker 1>the table and say this is where I'm at with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was it. Yeah, hold on, hold the pending.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to discussing. You won't custom your kids

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<v Speaker 1>are now okay. It was a tough conversation. He Sweat

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<v Speaker 1>had the same conversation with LS. No. No, no. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a tough conversation for two reasons. The first reason

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<v Speaker 1>was because we actually didn't have an agreement when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to that, and we just thought that since now

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<v Speaker 1>we're a group of new entity, it would all be

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<v Speaker 1>fair amongst all of us. Three way split, three way split.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the two to that is that you were right.

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<v Speaker 1>You were getting way more money per show to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>You were getting more money than both of us combined

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<v Speaker 1>to show up. So when Jaha came in another another number,

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<v Speaker 1>Sky guys, if you just move the percentage, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>light over here, and then you move yours right up

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<v Speaker 1>at the don't have anybody lands everybody else like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hell y, Genie was like feel mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ten years later. Ge still ain't over off the

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<v Speaker 1>Hennessey right now, and you talk about hot has a

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<v Speaker 1>Bowling Alley at his house. Yeah, I mean hot. So

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<v Speaker 1>so we end up you know what it is, what

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<v Speaker 1>it is whatever. We moved past that part. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>other part where it got tricked, because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep getting into the tricky part because they've seen us

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<v Speaker 1>discussed it separately, but I've never seen us discuss it together.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, I'm the music man. I am the music man, Jake.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a production company making music. That's what we did, right, Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>We make the music Grammy nominated number one records, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. Ty Reese don't write nothing. Ty Reef

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<v Speaker 1>don't produce something. I think I just sent him on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet. Argue with somebody the other day about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what you saying. The music man is

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<v Speaker 1>in the room. Okay, you just you just use your

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<v Speaker 1>market share to negotiate us an amazing deal. You did

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<v Speaker 1>your part. Now it's time for the music man to

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<v Speaker 1>do his part. I'm n genuine working with Timberlin. I'm Timberland,

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<v Speaker 1>and you won't get out of my way. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do a boot camp. We're gonna call a thousand producers,

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand rids, said Reese. That's not how that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how you make make magic instances. That's how I make magic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the reason you don't make music all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I do make music, look what happens. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at what happened, I said, look market share lot, look

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<v Speaker 1>at market would I'm a filing complaint with the podcasting video.

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<v Speaker 1>You for the grab in front of me. It's over

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember you too. And we proceed to make

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<v Speaker 1>this album with a boot camp with individual I mean

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<v Speaker 1>sessions just all over the place. And you could tell

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<v Speaker 1>by our text messages if we ever pulled up that

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<v Speaker 1>text chain from years ago. Don't forget forget the talent.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot. There was violence within us, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>what you would send to the label was equally as violent. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, at four in the morning, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking the start of the I was just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>in the subject box, you all are not going to

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<v Speaker 1>why are you so difficult? Man? Hey man, listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to just say, guys, truth be told. We got

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<v Speaker 1>one shot at this thing, man, We got one shot

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<v Speaker 1>at this thing. And I'm gonna tell y'all, man, the

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<v Speaker 1>old mean was in this place of just being in

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<v Speaker 1>disbelief about everything that had to do with anything. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what level people is on. I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>anything about anything that was going on in my life

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<v Speaker 1>and my career, and so I'll never forget. Somebody said

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<v Speaker 1>there's humility and there's being too humble, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean? They said, sometimes you could be

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<v Speaker 1>so humble where you disappear in the room, you disappear,

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<v Speaker 1>in the deals, you disappear, and negotiating what you really deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be so grateful and so humble that this opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>present itself that you don't do whatever you got to

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<v Speaker 1>do to make sure that business wise, you don't take

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<v Speaker 1>care of mesness. So once I shifted out of superhumility

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<v Speaker 1>south Central La, grateful, can't believe that anything is happening

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the cod commercial deal number one, with the Tyrese

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<v Speaker 1>album to deal number two. This whole time, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like yo, man, whatever y'all have in mind for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all good. No, no, no, no, don't ask for

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<v Speaker 1>all that, man, We're good with this. Everything about my

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<v Speaker 1>thinking changed, and the moment that my thinking changed about

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<v Speaker 1>me moving as a man that knows its value is

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<v Speaker 1>self worth. And I'm not going to settle for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they're giving or whatever they're offering, without having the audacity

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<v Speaker 1>to either demand or bottom line and say this is

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<v Speaker 1>where we need to be. And so obviously when you

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<v Speaker 1>move that way, people are gonna not you. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying this to eat you or g but people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to project what they believe and think you deserve

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<v Speaker 1>off onto you. And that's where the conflict is. So

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, as I pull up

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<v Speaker 1>to your house and I'm seeing R and B Money podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>the court is there, the pool wife, he was right there.

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<v Speaker 1>I waved out a she cooking. You deserve this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve this. I am in the jay's crib yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but you deserve this. And if you had settled for

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<v Speaker 1>what they were willing to give, then we be in

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<v Speaker 1>a very different situation. And that's my life because I

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<v Speaker 1>am overly aggressive about business, about deal terms, about what

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I deserve, and you got to demand it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when it's time to compromise because something is

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<v Speaker 1>going to implode, you got to also watch the algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>of deal making and negotiating and make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>end up with nothing because you allow it to get

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<v Speaker 1>nasty pertaining to negotiating. So yeah, the reason I'm worth

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm worth and I have what I have is

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<v Speaker 1>because I decided to stay humbled, meaning grateful, but don't

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<v Speaker 1>be humble enough to where you disappear in the deals

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<v Speaker 1>that you're doing. And that's the difference. Well, you definitely

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<v Speaker 1>didn't disappear. But there's a lot of people that's done movies.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't make what I make per movie. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people doing shows of concerts. They don't make

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<v Speaker 1>what I make pers cun There's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>doing walkthroughs and hosted doing whatever they're doing, but they'll

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<v Speaker 1>take pretty much whatever is offered. And I got to

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<v Speaker 1>shout out my big Brovevin Diesel and and I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>made it to the twenty million dollars club yet. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on my way. But I said to then around the

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<v Speaker 1>time we first met, when I did Fast five, Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yo, man, how do you get into the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million dollars club? Like, how there's only a few

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<v Speaker 1>black people in this town that makes twenty million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. How do you get into the movie to

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<v Speaker 1>the club. He says, it's funny you should say that

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<v Speaker 1>tie boogies. What do he called me? He said, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got here from saying no more often than I

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<v Speaker 1>say yes. My head fell off his shoulders, blue bloop

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<v Speaker 1>down the mountain, and I'm saying wow, he said, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The package is expensive, he said, I don't always have

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<v Speaker 1>to have the movie studio to pay for my private

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<v Speaker 1>plane when I travel places. But the day that anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry know that I was willing to fly commercial,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking my bag up. I've created a standard for myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what it has to be, even if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want a private plane. That's what everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the game is used to me traveling on, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>that is the perceptions of my value that I've created

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<v Speaker 1>for myself. So I can't go backwards. Sometimes I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>wait an extra day and a half for a I've

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<v Speaker 1>playing to show up when I could have easily said

0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to go now and just go fly commercial.

0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.440
<v Speaker 1>But it's going to change the perception. Oh he's willing

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<v Speaker 1>to fly commercial. M he's willing to accept it. Spread work.

0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely got him on a commercial plane. We flew.

0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like ten dollars. I've put him

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane you don't have to do global expres

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so you create the standard, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. You have to go into every situation and know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is who I am, this is what my value is,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what I believe I deserve. And and

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<v Speaker 1>then in the end when the conflict of yo, you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing too much, you're going too far. But then both

0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:46.600
<v Speaker 1>G and Tank became ultimately the beneficiaries of that bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>For those moments that I had them, then we all

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<v Speaker 1>able to pop champagne and have a good time, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I don't drink. I said thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for the photo. Man, it wasn't always a

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<v Speaker 1>good time it. Okay, what do you mean before you

0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:12.840
<v Speaker 1>say that? Here's what I love. I love that you have.

0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.639
<v Speaker 1>I love that you have a bottom line. Yes, I

0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:22.800
<v Speaker 1>love that and your self worth. It's on. You cannot

0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you cannot, you cannot move my needle. Impossible. But I'm

0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.240
<v Speaker 1>not the only one to TG right what I'm saying. No, no, no, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there comes a time where because for me,

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<v Speaker 1>you're my friend, and so a bottom line in business

0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:51.560
<v Speaker 1>starts to feel like you're not just negotiating against me,

0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.120
<v Speaker 1>but trying to make sure you're standing above me. That's

0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:00.359
<v Speaker 1>how it felt. That's how it felt. And we've had discussions, bologize,

0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying that we've had discussions, you know,

0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and and understanding each other. But that's for me where

0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the feelings got weird because I'm like, this is my

0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.359
<v Speaker 1>this's my friend, and he's trying to make sure or

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it felt like he's trying to make sure that Tyres

0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:26.680
<v Speaker 1>is right here. His name is already first in the group.

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knew that you knew that TGT could have been

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:43.000
<v Speaker 1>any t who walks out on stagebirth. I don't know.

0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I know who used to walk out on stagebirth. I

0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:56.880
<v Speaker 1>don't remember who walked down on stage Jake Jo Jake,

0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:02.480
<v Speaker 1>get him God. The business side of it, okay, which

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.680
<v Speaker 1>obviously for me was you got And I've said this

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.280
<v Speaker 1>to both of you before. It was very much an

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:14.120
<v Speaker 1>internship for me coming from because at this point I'm

0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.360
<v Speaker 1>not managing to tank it either, so I'm coming from

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the creative side. But then I'm coming from the business

0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.800
<v Speaker 1>world because I you know, I got some deals for people,

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.359
<v Speaker 1>and I had done consulting in that type of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but just not like full management, especially at you guys' level.

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:35.320
<v Speaker 1>So I was kind of thrown into it. What you

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<v Speaker 1>all know, and for me, I didn't. I never asked

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<v Speaker 1>for money because I didn't feel like I should be

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 1>paid for what I was doing just yet this was

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.360
<v Speaker 1>me paying in my own mind, paying my own dudes,

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and because I was able to write the records with

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it for you what y'all and for y'all for the

0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:55.919
<v Speaker 1>project and be a part of that. So I'm like, Nan,

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm a part of it, and I'm going to learn.

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And then it started to be like, shit, okay, these

0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:06.240
<v Speaker 1>are these are three of my friends individually, because I

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.399
<v Speaker 1>had known all three of you guys individually, I had

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 1>worked with all y'all individually and together. Now and me

0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>watching the friendships be affected by the business, it was

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.920
<v Speaker 1>tough for me at times because I'm like fuck man

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.640
<v Speaker 1>like and and Tank will tell you like, I'm I've

0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.080
<v Speaker 1>always been one of those people. You know this too, though.

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't like for people that I'm cool with to

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:35.120
<v Speaker 1>have issues with each other. Yeah, because I never want

0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.320
<v Speaker 1>to be in a room where someone is speaking on

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody I fuck with, because I'm going to be like,

0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>hey man, yeah, nah, I feel like that called that man.

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's tough at times though, you know what

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that that's tough at times because I'm like,

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I hear all, y'all, but shit, can y'all hear all y'all?

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Like I really wanted that.

0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I wanted you guys to come together even though yeah,

0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>y'all in the group and we traveling together, but y'all

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:07.639
<v Speaker 1>still wasn't together until y'all have moments where y'all just

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.240
<v Speaker 1>had to all get on somebody. Then it was like

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.639
<v Speaker 1>we together now. But other than that, this guy here,

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<v Speaker 1>this got this got are but I's expected I have

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to chime man to say, if you can wrap it

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:26.240
<v Speaker 1>all up, the overall experience of TGT was three individual

0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>grown men, fathers. Man had have been successful in their

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<v Speaker 1>own right their whole life, their whole career. Genuine has

0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>sold the most records of all three of us. Genuine

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 1>has got more number ones and all. They don't care

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 1>if they twenty thirty years, don't matter. They hits records

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 1>have been sold. Actually doesn't have one of them. He

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:56.479
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have no not anymore. So this shit I had

0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:09.919
<v Speaker 1>to do it. You know who's got the most number one? Okay,

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>so so okay, yeah, thanks God the most number one.

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 1>But make sure sorry that's I had to have to

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>update my database. Uh So, trying to get three grown

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>men who's been flying and moving and operating and the

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<v Speaker 1>function and have been successful in their own right doing

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 1>it the way they do it and it's producing results.

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>To try and put all three of us in one

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that in itself is a recipe for disaster. Because if

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>we were all singing, no, no, if we're all singing, yeah,

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 1>if we're if we're all singing and we all are

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>in a group and this is our first time you know,

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>doing it, then that's cool. But to be this successful

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>in our own right individually and then wait, this late

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.360
<v Speaker 1>in the game for all three of us to link

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>up and do it together. I don't wear that. I

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>don't go about that like that. I don't negotiate like that.

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not agreeing to that. I don't I go about

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.239
<v Speaker 1>making my album my way. You go about making your

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 1>albums your way. G does it his way. So that

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>in itself is a recipe for disaster. Taking three grown

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>alpha men and saying let's all whole hands together and

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>make believe we are you know anything that's that's three way.

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>So it happened with LSG. You know. Um, I was

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>just with Gerald Leaverte's daughter in Atlanta and heard so

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>many stories about all of the stuff that they were

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.199
<v Speaker 1>dealing with with the egos and personality because they were

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 1>all successful just like us. So I think, you know, yeah,

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>there's more stories to be told, but I think in

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 1>general none of us should actually be surprised at any

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>of the conflicts or moments of discomfort that took place

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>because we're all used to doing our own thing and

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>then now you're putting a square in a circle trying

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to make it fit. And I'm just still proud of

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate outcome. I'm still proud of what we accomplished.

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>You can't skip one song on this album, and we

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.880
<v Speaker 1>robbed ourselves of the opportunity to tour and really maximize

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>what it is. But I got some great news for you,

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Tank and Jay. I got some great news to tell

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.679
<v Speaker 1>y'all right now. And I want to move on TGT

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>because I don't want to do this ship for another

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes. Clearly, the pre interview came with you asked

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>him about this, and you ask, I'm just got some

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>great news. Atlantic Records has officially agreed to sign TGT

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 1>for a second album. Yeah, congratulations, and you're mad at me.

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 1>You're mad at me. You're welcome, you're mad at me.

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 1>He did he didn't make congratulations. He meant well, I'm

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 1>just gonna say this. Wait like y'all, don't y'all, don't

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>name is not genuine. And if you can't make edit

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>that out of edit. See how they responded to the

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>good news. That's crazy. No, no, no, no, no, pull

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that shit off the wall. Right skips skip steps? What

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>did I skip? Genuine? I'm not genuine. You can't have

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>this conversation if that man is not here? Brother, Okay,

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>so what does that mean? What did I do wrong?

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>What did I do wrong? Jake Valentine, You didn't call

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>g and have that conversation. I didn't call Tank either,

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>but takes here. But but are you happy or no?

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>The fuck is going on? I feel see this is

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 1>why we broke up already because I'm out of here. Listen,

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>you see what I'm saying. I can't do shit. You

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>skip the step me and you me and you have

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>been me and you have been back in strade again. Wow.

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Recently we've been back in stride again. It's weirdly just happened.

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>We've been having these cheers and Clapton, I got, I

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>got some ship playing out. It's it's hold on you.

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Motherfucker's ain't happy either. Got they like yo, I see

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>what you mean? Tan, fuck you too, bearded man, bearded man,

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>dark bearded happy. This is ridiculous. So it's being against y'all.

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>It's this go ahead. It was tacky, It would be

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 1>a mean. It was tacky, it would be amazing news.

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not amazing. No, listen, let me finish. It would

0:27:55.320 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>be amazing news. If the conversation was fellas he's staring,

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go into this office and I'm gonna make

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a plaque. Are y'all? Are y'all ready to rock? And

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>of course she was gonna get a yes from me.

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I already told you we should do it. But if

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you had that verbal yes from genuine and then you

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>walked in here and said, guys, I did it. I

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>pulled it off, then we could celebrate. Right now, you

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>just celebrate said what you want us to celebrate? You

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>getting a deal for a group that doesn't exist. All right, well,

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you know the good thing. We ain't signed them and

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>nothing has been negotiating, So maybe NETI I have not.

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>You put a number out there. I have not. That's

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>my word. They just know your floor. They know your floor,

0:28:55.360 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>they floor, they bottom line. Okay, No, okay, see that's it.

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>That was a moment. No, no, that's a moment. I

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that I learn. I love that I learned something.

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>You knew that Jay Valentine literally he left the room.

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 1>He was out on the side of a mountain, gazing, gazing,

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>day dreaming. We lost him for about fifteen minutes because

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of me announcing tgt's got a new deal that is

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable letters. Okay, maybe I phrased it. Room. Can I

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>get another shot? We're calling. Can I get a take?

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Moving on? We can't get a take too. We're done here.

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on. Um you all right now? Can I

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>have a Jay Valentine owner and gaze off for a second.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, We're gonna. I want to get it. I

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>want to get into Tyree's. I just got them to

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>agree to teach the singer the solo artist. Nothing is signed,

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing is negotiated. When I first met you, shy Reese, Um,

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>we went to New York to work on some music

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and went to the studio and just you know, gott

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it cracking and I was I had to god. Man,

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>He's like, don't leave. I was like, I gotta go,

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and you wouldn't let me leave, and he's like, you

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>can stay with me. You know what I'm saying in

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>my spot? And um we went to your spot and

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what's that smell? It's like, is that

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>your feet? I get this is the worst inter canceled

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the ship where my brother. I think me and man

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I have clearly starred niggers in real time. You're bro,

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you are a part of you are part of my life,

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>my lineage brother. I couldn't separate from you. I want

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to get it to you as the artist man, because um,

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>let's go back, let's go to watch. Let's get people

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity. I want to go back to where let's

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>get people an opportunity to stop thinking about my feet. Okay,

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I was. I had to get I was ninety eight

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to just different. Yeah, I washed my feet and he's

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>panic cures. I could afford them. Now. The hell, you

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>actually built, You built a spot. That's what you do.

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>You built stuff. We'll get to your building and now too.

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Tell me, j if you pissed me off today, I'm

0:31:55.320 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, tell me tell me. And I know we've

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>heard this. I know you know you you've been able

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to tell this story in a in a few on

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a few different forms. But give me the energy that

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you feel when you realize that you have a gift,

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>when somebody points it out to you, or it just

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>comes to you, you were like, oh shit, I'm different. Um,

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's been happening for me. Um, long before I

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>got on you know. Um, I was always the center

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of attention everywhere I went. I was always the class clown.

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>It would be no such thing as ever running into

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>me when I was seven, eight, nine years old and

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and not remembering I remember that kid, you know, because

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that was just I was always you know, as my

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>mom rest in peace would say, I was always marked,

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was. I was. I'm a marked man.

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, it's now here's the thing. Being special.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 1>Are believing that you're special? Are people saying that you're special?

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>There's something about you wasn't necessarily connected to talent that

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>early on. There was no nine year old singing tyrese.

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>There there was no ten year old actor and it

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>never happened for me that early in the game. But

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>as far as me just always being special, like I

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>think Brandy literally Brandy Norwood, who I love, has been

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>best friends with me since I was eleven years old,

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and me, Brandy and Ray J used to sing at

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a park in Watt's called where Rogers Park, which they

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>now called Ted Watkins Park. They from Mississippi, but they

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>moved to Carson, so the only thing cracking in south

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>central LA was these shows that was hosted at where

0:33:56.600 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Rogers Park, and we would do these talent shows and

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Brandy used to say to me, at eleven years old,

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you a star, And it would make me so uncomfortable because,

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>for one, I didn't know what it was. I didn't

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>have no way of wrapping my head around this word.

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what I was supposed to become. It's

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>almost like somebody saying you're sexy, but you don't really

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>know what it means. You don't know what clothes, what

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>your haircut should be, or how do I embrace this

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>word that someone is suddenly calling me. So, yeah, when

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I was when I was young, bro, my whole life,

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I've always been you know what people would define this magic,

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like I know how to make everybody feel good around me.

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I have this charm, this charisma, this energy that that

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm a communicator. I've always been a communicator.

0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I've always been considered an old soul. You know. There

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>was nothing about me that that says, yeah, you were

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>born and raised in south central LA. But it was

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>very clear early on that I was born here, but

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not of here. I'm not of this cripping and

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>blood and gangster selling drugs, excessive force, murder, you know,

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>anything that's going on, prostitution, whatever I grew up in

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and around my whole life. Nothing in me early on

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>felt like the outcome of my life is going to

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:37.760
<v Speaker 1>be the environment that I grew up in. So sorry

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>for the long ND. Yeah that's the truth. That's I

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>for sure thought I was going to be in a

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>gang when I was going up because that's all that

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>was around me, you know. So as we run around

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 1>little kids, seeing all the gangsters like that was the

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>cool thing. Yeah, So I was like, shoot, let me

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>call if just pitch fork in my arm. Let him

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>know that I'm trying to I'm trying to be on.

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be part of it. Pitch for it.

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>You gotta explaining that Midwest, But what is what is

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the pitchfork me? That's just I don't need to be

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>part of Okay, got you at the early age, but

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm making a parallel because I didn't. I

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't have this magical thing that you're having at that age.

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I was more invisible. But you know what, everything

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>about singing or doing music, they look at you as

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>soft when you were in the hood. If you were

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 1>in the hood for real singing, it was fuck out

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>of here what you're singing at? You know. I was

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>just in the choir though I wasn't like, never did nothing.

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I was rapping. It's what I was doing because we

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>got black Tie and her MC hurricane, So I was

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>rapping out here today. MC herricane. Yeah, I've never heard

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>that name. Yeah, I mean you know, yeah, I only

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>pull it out. I was in a rap group called

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Triple Impact. Triple Impact, Triple that's three y'all. It was

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>three my boy Michael, my boy Randy, three of us.

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>So in the hood. You know that's that's what you did. Yeah,

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>because I'm in Watts right next to Compton, right next

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to Lone be So the pressure to rap for me

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>was on a whole nother strato field because we got

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>NWA ice cube snoop out of Long Beach, like West

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Coast was the West Coast and what it became because

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>of gangster rap on the West Coast. So you know,

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't trying to be Nate dog, you know with

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>my singing. And I was like, well, maybe the singing

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>shit ain't for me, but you knew you could sing.

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>You didn't know. I know. I did not know I

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>could sing till I was like fourteen. But the talent

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 1>shows with Brandy and ray J. You singing are rapping?

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you? Oh sorry? I was singing okay, But talent shows,

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>talent shows and getting on stage to sing wasn't this

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 1>definitive thing that I want to do this for my life.

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>And other than being in that talent show singing, I

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel safe and it didn't feel welcome on any

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>level in the hood. Get your singing ass, get your

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>soft singing, whatever that may be. So you're in the

0:37:55.520 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>rape when you go an audition for the commercial Are

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>You the Rap? Thing happened many years before that, and

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 1>then I started wrapping my head around singing, but did

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.320
<v Speaker 1>not know that I wanted to make it a career,

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, because all right, well here's this talent show,

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>let me fall in. It's no different than nigga's playing

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>basketball or you know. I played Pop Warner football, not

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>no sports nigga like that. But I played because that's

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing in the hood, and you know, it's masculine,

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>it's alpha. You ain't. You ain't doing no singing. That

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>shit is soft, you know, on a hood level like

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 1>where I'm from. So singing was discouraged, you know. And

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't singing in the church. So it's not like

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>anybody who's in the hood is going to church just

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>looking at this kids singing in the choir lead singing.

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>None of that was happening. So I had no gateway

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>into R and B, no gateway into boy, you sung

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>your butt off the other day, I hope the Lord

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>continue to use you. And I never had none of that.

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>So my thing was skip church. Even though I was

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>in church, I wasn't in church singing. Skip church and

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 1>whatever energy that can create for me with my vocals

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 1>in the hood and now go straight into too singing.

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It's crypts, bloods, gangsters, essays, police, prostitution, murder, and this

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:23.800
<v Speaker 1>nigga out here singing. Yeah, this nigga out here singing,

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>shut the fuck up and let's get back to this cripper.

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>That's just what it is. Nobody is surprised about anything

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 1>that's happening for my life and career. They all knew.

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 1>It was obvious that I had that oil on me

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and something was going to happen. And it was not

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>like I'm, you know, holding good notes at three years

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>old or playing the drums at three, or he's a

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>he's a genius. I had none of that going. But

0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 1>once you met me seven, eight, ten, twelve years old,

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>something was on my life. And it was very clear.

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Before I knew I could sing, before I knew anything

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>about talent, I was already this, you know, as people

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>would say or describe a magnet a star. Something about

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>me had this energy on me that I'm whenever you

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>figure out, whenever God figure out who and what you

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 1>are destined to be, You're gonna be something. Yeah. To

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>know that I have this aura or this magnetism or

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>energy all over me everywhere I go, class clown cracking jokes.

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Something is on this guy. Can he sing? I don't know?

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Ken he rap? I don't know? Is he actor? I

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know. None of that was discovered back then. So

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>after I did the co commercial and I was singing

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>on the bus, that's when it confirmed in my own spirit. Okay,

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>so maybe this singing thing is for you at that point. Yeah,

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe saying things for you, because at that point I'm

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>trying everything. I played baseball, football, basketball, I ran track,

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I was doing it. I was like, I gotta figure

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 1>out what God has in mind. You played basketball? Yeah,

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you see you can't play basketball, man, You see you

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>see what I'm saying. Let him. I let him get

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>away with football. I left. I let that slow it down,

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>go easy. I was just gonna let him rock. Yeah,

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 1>it's all right. Thank ain't good at everything. Tank ain't

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>good with everything. As long as you got me there,

0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, bro, you think it's a crazy So I

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>did not know what my talent was. I just knew,

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, think of me as a personality. That's the

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>only thing I had. When it comes to cracking jokes

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and clowning. There's nobody at my school that could fuck

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>with me. I would. They'd be like, yeah, oh oh,

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it'd be like bagging or cracking jokes like I was

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the king amongst my whole squad. So once the CO

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 1>commercial happened, the Hollywood thing would have been check out

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of school. You're famous. I felt more. I felt more

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:33.280
<v Speaker 1>safe at school than anywhere else I went because everything

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>about me cracking jokes and having a community of my tribe,

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>all my hood niggas, everybody from my school that was

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>school for me, and I did not want to graduate.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I did not want to check out because

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of this sudden fame. So so you're the Coca Cola man. Yeah,

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's going crazy. Who calls you and says, I think

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>we have a meeting for a record deal for you.

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a twenty record label bidding war when we had

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>labels off for the commercial off the CO commercial, So goodness.

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Daryl Jones, who we all love from, Daryl Jones was

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:25.760
<v Speaker 1>literally sent summoned by Andre Horrell to come to my campus.

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>He was literally sent to Lock High School when I

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was sixteen. Andre Horrell said go find him he reached

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 1>out to my music teacher, Reggie Andrews said, yeah, you

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>can come in and meet him. So now all these

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>record labels is trying to sign the kids from the

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:48.760
<v Speaker 1>co commercial. They're now showing up on my campus in school.

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Daryl Jones, sixteen years old was on my campus like

0:43:55.200 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>an NBA scout courting me. He told you, he who

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>shut up, different kind of who according me doing whatever

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:11.280
<v Speaker 1>it takes to charm and give me whatever energy like honey, busy,

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>we kind of fooled you, like you know. So he's

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>at my school. Bro a few times Daryl Jones showed up,

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>popping up, popping up. Andre Horrell said, there is no

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>way we are not going to sign this kid at

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the time. Rest in peace to the Big Homy who

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>was a legend icon. We love you, We honor you.

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Um we had the honor of giving you your flowers

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>while you was with us. But Andre Horrel, with my

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>knowledge today, would have been the better choice. Mary J. Blige,

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Heavy d All Joda see all of it. You know

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 1>this is a guy, a real music guy, not just

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>an executive, not a figurehead of Labom, a real guy artist, development,

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the visuals, the videos, really not giving the artists an

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to mold and shape the direction and create art

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and music. Um, but Andre didn't offer the bag. I

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>already knew it. Already knew he's gonna say that Urca

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>offered the bag. What kind of bag was it? Uh?

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Two and a half million at sixteen sixteen two point

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>five two and a half, Yeah, you were two and

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a half million dollars is in nineteen ninety twenty three.

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of still stretch, Yeah, stretch, But obviously that's

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 1>not two and a half million dollars that was given

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>to me, and that's the budget, that's the you know,

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the cost of the album, the videos, just whatever. So yeah,

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>two and a half mil I bought my first house,

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 1>a sixteen four bedroom, two car garages right off the

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>golf course and Hawthorne. Yeah. So they said there was

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a one nigga that was a hood nigga walked up

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to me. If you're sensitive about the N word, sorry,

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 1>there was a hood nigga that said to me, hey, man,

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you've never seen this kind of money. He said, Man,

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.399
<v Speaker 1>you know because it's so crazy because all my real

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>ones from South central La Watts to this day. Bro,

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people name dropping and telling stories.

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, you got history versus history. All my real ones.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 1>They're all so happy for me to this day, not jealous.

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Give me real love. Doesn't matter what I'm doing and

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>how far in between I see him all love. So

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.280
<v Speaker 1>a hood nigga walked up to me. He said, Hey, Reese,

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>go kill that ship, bro, exact words, go kill that ship. Bro.

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey listen, any nigga ever try and come at you,

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>don't try and be us. We do this cript shit

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours, seven days a week. We do this

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>for real. If anybody ever try and come at you,

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>just call us. We don't need to be with you,

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.320
<v Speaker 1>need to be a part of your click, your entourage traveling.

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Most of US's hood niggas, we don't like the lead

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:23.399
<v Speaker 1>a hood anyway. Go do your thing, and oh yeah,

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>don't be one of them should or would have cut us.

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Go buy a house, Go make certain investments, because if

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the shit hits the fan a year or two from

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>now and nobody's calling your name, just have something to

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>show for. And not only did I buy one, I

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>bought two hours before I was twenty two. If I

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>got one hit out of it and it's over. I

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>at least own a home with equity. Let I'm talking,

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about that one hit because Nigga boy, sweet

0:47:53.360 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>motherfucking lighting, Praise God. Takee and the characters and the

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:05.280
<v Speaker 1>character before there was an Underdogs that was the character.

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes there was. Listen. I remember the first time I

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 1>heard that record, I'm like, oh, he's out of here

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>because I had seen the commercial and I'm like, oh, dude, dope.

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Because as singers, you can hear the smallest little inflections,

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>little things or what you making the fun huh, Because

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>because as singers, did you say no. I mean, I'm like,

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not from LA. I don't play No Blood,

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 1>but I don't play No l a game. I'm from

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the band no different. It comes from young Blood, it

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>comes from yet Megang for the movie. But so I hear,

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, as like we said, we hear things as singers,

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, he got it. He called that

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:07.439
<v Speaker 1>nigga tough. Even from that little piece that you sang

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>on that commercial wasn't oh it isn't a full song,

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>it ain't nothing. But I was like, he got something.

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>But then you just know music, It's like what comes next.

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Sweet lady bro Sweet lady versus was I don't want no,

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:26.799
<v Speaker 1>And that's when I That's when I was like. That's

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>when I was like, Because I was at a performance

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you were doing and I was watching you warm up,

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and when you're warming up, you die the backflip. I

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, this nigga really trying to be this

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>nigga really want to be me? Oh you flip flip flip.

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I stopped playing twenty hands Rings in the row, Sherman

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.839
<v Speaker 1>started traveling in your front yard. What are you saying?

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.760
<v Speaker 1>What do you say? I have a flip at the nigga?

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Are we doing double back double flip flop flip flop

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.879
<v Speaker 1>backs on grass? What are you talking about? I did

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 1>double backs on grass. I'm talking about grass. You don't

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>want that work? Yeah, you don't want this work? Come

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>about the same thing. Can't do a double back right now,

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys that don't know. These guys are born two

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>days apart, so I know it's double triple back? Can

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>impact trip back? When I saw you do that, and

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, because I wasn't out yet, I

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:43.800
<v Speaker 1>was kind of signed RCA, but I wasn't you know,

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't working, so I was just kind of following

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you around, still following genuine around. I was like, you

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 1>did that backflip? I was like, oh, he's good. It

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>was a part of my he's going in the hood

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>man on pissie battresses in the field, easy backflip. But

0:50:57.480 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 1>then Sweet Lady came out me clip from Jerry sitting

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:05.840
<v Speaker 1>upstairs something like this. Yeah it was. It wasn't no

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 1>turning back and what are you about? Seventeen now right?

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Took about a year between um the album was released

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.399
<v Speaker 1>in ninety eight. I did nobody else. First of all,

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I was a video vixen first for our sure, well

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you know it's a vixen paying my dudes. Yeah no,

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>but that wasn't before Sweet Lady. It was. It was

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 1>before nobody else. It was, was it? Yes, I just

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>knew you, So that's why I'm thinking. Yeah, I did

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 1>my way video with I never realized that Frank Frank

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Gatson shout out to Frank Gatson on the plug. I don't.

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know I was shout out Frank Gatson for that.

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't why not, I would he was he was

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:41.839
<v Speaker 1>doing the whole video. Yeah, I just as soon think

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that was the look. You don't think that was you

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 1>had this happening. You don't think I should have did

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that video? Dude, Wow, you gonna say this twenty some

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 1>years later, I'm sorry tanked the videos out there. It's

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's like it's like it's like when Prince turned

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>down bad. There was nothing compromising about doing the my

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Way video with with with Prince telling stories about what

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson wanted him to do. No, Michael Jackson wanted

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>him to be the villain in the video, but there

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 1>were some things that he wanted him to either say

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>or it would just be the feeling I'm gonna beat

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.319
<v Speaker 1>you up. I win got you in the first lyrical

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>songs Your but it's mine. He's like, I should I

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.840
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't do that. I shoul didn't do that. He know

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>he he told you he liked it his way. Okay,

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>pause twenty something later. No, he's saying that to the girls.

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 1>He's saying to your girl, she likes it. She telling

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 1>you about your girl. Your girl like it my way?

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Look out. I mean he definitely took your bride. He

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>took your girl. Did he take my girl? Yes? I

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 1>need to look at the video cut. This feeling has

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>been festering for years. But that wasn't a good look.

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 1>She likes it my way, and he took my girl.

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:00.919
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't my girl? It's his video. It was a girl

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you want it? That's why you had to tell you

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 1>whoa bro? She like my way? Whoa Coca Cola? Who?

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Who Coca cola? Whoa bottom? Whoa bottom? Man? She like

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it my way? Right? Even I didn't even know what

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 1>sweet Lady was, but any songs I made like Sweet

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Lady did not know. Was it written for you? Yes?

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.399
<v Speaker 1>It was. No, it was Taylor for you. No, John

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Tay Austin wrote it when he was sixteen for him

0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 1>for him. Yeah, Hella was a song that they were

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 1>sitting on elevator, but they didn't. Yeah, Troy Taylor, God

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.280
<v Speaker 1>bless you to this day. I stuck to the formula.

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't sing backgrounds. The backgrounds on my first single

0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 1>for two thousand wats Jave Valentine, We ain't got there yet?

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Sung all you know that song? I like them girls,

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:10.960
<v Speaker 1>all of the vocals, some live still. Yeah, you said,

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, Oh, I'm gonna get a shot. Listen, We'll

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:16.239
<v Speaker 1>keep all up it and listen it was that was

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:19.880
<v Speaker 1>never the intention. Yo. You you hit thank you, thank you,

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Many years later, Jay Valentine, they would be no,

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I like them, girls would ask Ja Valentine, that ain't

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 1>doing good? Can you give it to us? Hell no,

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you're a singer. I know y'all new song it was fly.

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 1>You can't give us. We're not skipping steps? Can you come?

0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I just want three fans. You're not taking over the Okay,

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:48.439
<v Speaker 1>I gotta take over a spirit? Calm? Can I guess

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the water? Relax? I got to have the room. You

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 1>guys have water to this guy just right there, right there,

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 1>your waters right there. I got relax, like he's skipping steps.

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Then you go again skipping Give me first of all.

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:03.920
<v Speaker 1>First of all, first of all, sir, y'all didn't give

0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 1>me no pre interview to tell me the structure and

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.280
<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna cover and whatever secrets well we're covering?

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Is you okay? And I just wanted him to give

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 1>to love and sing. I liked them so yet what

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>we still on? Sweet lady? I just tell you what

0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, sing monkey, no single money with the baby here?

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 1>All right? We were talking about Troy Taylor singing on

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.359
<v Speaker 1>the background, and I went to the obvious you did

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 1>it before, Troy, I like, no, that's not sweet, ladies,

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 1>super smash, You're you're you're on track to be extremely successful.

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.560
<v Speaker 1>You know it's gonna be a two part it's absolutely,

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. Yeah, absolutely, And going on to extreme you

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>said what and you're going on tours, so it's gotta

0:55:56.640 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>be a two part and go ahead? Extremely successful. At

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:04.760
<v Speaker 1>this point, are you are you really starting to understand

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:12.399
<v Speaker 1>what's happening. No, you have no idea, no, no clue. Wow,

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:17.800
<v Speaker 1>completely in disbelief. Going back to that humility and humble

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and gratitude, which I'm still humbling, grateful, but you're not

0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that humble. He might be grateful, you're not that humble.

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to him. Is this what y'all do?

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Is he just he's throwing logs and I heard go back,

0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I hurt you. Okay, So I don't see. Let's address that.

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Tyrese is not humble. I just think

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 1>said he was born with the glove. I just he

0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't say he just I just I just I just

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 1>think he shouldn't say anything wrong with that. And I

0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:00.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't say it about myself. This is what you upset

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:04.279
<v Speaker 1>about it. You said, you said you felt it your bar.

0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 1>You can't cut clothe. I just think Tyreech is a

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 1>ty is just a strong personality and anything he says.

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.760
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I was born with a glow.

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>It could be taken like as a baby, as a

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>as a baby, as a baby when the doctor pulled

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:31.480
<v Speaker 1>me out, it's like a lights and and my mom

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, what's that shine? And he was like, that's

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 1>your baby. You know what it says. That's basically what

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you said. You just what your baby? Is that a halo? Like?

0:57:54.800 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Get some kind of got My shouldn't be sliding? Send

0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the budget. You had your feet up, slide. You're doing

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:07.920
<v Speaker 1>everything you can't. The seat should not be sliding like

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 1>this because I won't be the first in the last

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to laugh. Everybody has that seat until you can't. All right, whatever,

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 1>sending the budget, they'll crow out. R and B Money

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 1>podcast with the slide and seats go back, go back

0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to what you're saying that you'll see the slide. I'm

0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:42.400
<v Speaker 1>sitting on the strong personality, strong in believing in what

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 1>he feels and and sometimes you cannot hear what he's

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:55.040
<v Speaker 1>saying versus versus how you feel it's being conveyed, because

0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 1>when Terrys talks, it's like it's theater talk. I don't

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>know if you learn that ving rams or no, if

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that was just you know, when you talk, it's like

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a moment, you know what I mean?

0:59:08.680 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 1>So you being able to control rooms, but you got

0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:16.919
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, dang, no, no, no, okay, you don't

0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 1>have a strong I have a strong voice, but your

0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 1>natural entrance as soon as you walk in the room,

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you're already there. Hey, what's going on? Everybody? How you doing? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, yeah, like you're it's immediate, y'all. Funny man.

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, but and so people can term R

0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and B money podcast. Uh you're a fan, no, not

0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 1>just a paper twel in the budget? Yeah yeah, listen

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to budget? And then does your paper towel? Uh? Does

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it is gonna leave anyway. Let me let me just

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:55.480
<v Speaker 1>get you, Let me get you some Let me get

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<v Speaker 1>you some air. No, I'm I don't want air. I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to wipe off this uh, this this gloss,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, set, Yeah, got to worry about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what happens when you got curls. He goes here.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, um, yeah, you have no idea. Get you

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<v Speaker 1>about to sell a boatload of records and go crazy, um,

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<v Speaker 1>amazing moment, amazing song. And then because I want to,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to jump to Jay Valentine and I like

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<v Speaker 1>them girls. But there's a backstory to this. Yeah all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I please, I don't remember no no, no, no, so

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<v Speaker 1>because before the record was just us kicking it. You

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<v Speaker 1>come out of the studio. At this point, I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>with Damon Thomas and one night we're just in there,

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<v Speaker 1>we vibing. Man, we're working, and You're like, Jay, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a long ride. You want to roll with me?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, nigga, we're talking about? We en't and

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<v Speaker 1>see though, I'm like where you live because I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my whole thing too. I'm like we're both young, eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old at the time. I think, I'm like, Dn

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<v Speaker 1>this nigga got drive wherever it sounds far. He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go to Hawthorne. Where the fuck is Hardthorn? Nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not from here. I'm like, what is Hawthorne about?

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<v Speaker 1>An hour or something about from here. I'm like, fuck, Nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>Gil tripped me. I'm like, all right, dog because he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Nigga, when the studio we're working, we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a little shit. Not no, we ain't moved to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I like them girls. This is down the line. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, fuck it, bro, I roll with you man,

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<v Speaker 1>this nigga get the Hawthorne. I'm thinking this nigga sleepy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we get to this nigga house. He got drums

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<v Speaker 1>in the garage. I'm like, tired, Nigga. The guest room, niggat,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you in this big ass house by yourself. A townhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga showed me my room was not a townhouse. What

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<v Speaker 1>was it? There was a four bedroom house. Oh, he go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, don't disrespect six of sixteen. Don't down play.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not sixteen now. I was eighteen. I was eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I was still in mind. It was a house. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a house man. But they were connecting. I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hear me. Hear me. I'm trying to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>that he's humble, that he has not and I said

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<v Speaker 1>this a long time and he's not tired. It's three

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<v Speaker 1>to four in the morning, he liked. So I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm still trying to find my room at this

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<v Speaker 1>nigga's house. Man. I'm like, I ain't never been here.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do I go? No? No, not, coming real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>come real quick. He grabs a stack of papers. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what these stack of papers are. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen a movie script before. I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>He like, look at that part right there. You read

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<v Speaker 1>that part. I'm gonna read this part. What three four

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. Bro, he didn't play drums. Now, somehow, somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm his co star in this movie that will become

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<v Speaker 1>baby Boy. Wow. And I'm reading lines back from it

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't remember the lines. I think I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>Omar Gooding. Part might be being ranked. But I see

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<v Speaker 1>what you motherfucker. But he but he's like, he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, j J. Just read those parts. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna readmind back. And I'm watching him transform into Jody

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking to myself, this nigga can act. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it to him, yeah, but I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, I'm like, damn, bro, like this nigga

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<v Speaker 1>just handing me the stack of papers that with all

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I said, you know, we'll become a script.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's he going through the ship and he go

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<v Speaker 1>full South Central La. You know what I mean, Twist

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<v Speaker 1>the voice a little bit. Everything is a little a little,

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<v Speaker 1>a little extra out. I'm like, damn, this is cool man,

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<v Speaker 1>this nigga. Really he got some other ship that he's

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<v Speaker 1>that's brewing. John Single John that just came to my

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<v Speaker 1>house probably two days before you came and made me

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<v Speaker 1>read the Baby Boys script cover the cover. I had

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<v Speaker 1>been running from John Singleton Rest in Peace for like

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<v Speaker 1>six years. I remember I used to host on HIMTV,

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<v Speaker 1>MTV Jams Compdown so John everywhere I went, and ice

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<v Speaker 1>Cube can tell this story everybody John has ever pursued,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not saying that the sound facetious or be facetious.

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<v Speaker 1>He pursued me as an actor and would not let

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<v Speaker 1>up until I finally did a film. So he actually

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<v Speaker 1>wanted me to do Shaft and that role that Busta

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<v Speaker 1>Rhymes had in the film was something that he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>me to do and I told him no because I

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<v Speaker 1>was so on a music high that I had been

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<v Speaker 1>chasing for I don't know three four years. Whoever it was,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't imagine myself being on the movie set and

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<v Speaker 1>as corny and as crazy as this sound. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want none of my homies to say I went Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>and the movie would be Hollywood. The movie would be Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that I know what I know about the phrase,

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<v Speaker 1>which is stupid as hell, like it cost this this, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this twist in this word cost me so many opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>and so much money. Have no idea that nigga Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I never wanted them to say about. But

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<v Speaker 1>being Hollywood or going Hollywood, it's not because it's an

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<v Speaker 1>acting choice. It's a personality type. When your nose is

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air, you think you too boogie, fancy,

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<v Speaker 1>too rich. You I can all arrogant, stuck up stand

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<v Speaker 1>office and this and that. Now you Oh nigga, you change.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do that anywhere any But that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a general hood words. Yeah, in the phrase that's

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<v Speaker 1>been thrown out there forever people back. Yeah, oh nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>you changed has killed many careers. Yeah, that nigga went Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>he acting brand new has killed many careers. So you

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<v Speaker 1>end up getting away from every dream, all the shit

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<v Speaker 1>that keeps you up at night. You get away from

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<v Speaker 1>it because you're so concerned about your homies, thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna change on them. And then I don't. At

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<v Speaker 1>forty four years old, I could say, you fucking right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna change got them right, you fucking right? You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you think of me as Hollywood, I

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<v Speaker 1>got ten billion in box office on my name, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not Hollywood meaning personality. All my real ones. Love

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<v Speaker 1>is love. Um, but I not want to do movies

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<v Speaker 1>after John chased me for six some years because I

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<v Speaker 1>was afraid of homies in the hood. I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with saying you changed and you in Hollywood. Wow, And

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that tea. Imagine missing a classic shaft, shaft baby boy. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because you've already missed you already, But you

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<v Speaker 1>have been running from them, yeah for that long. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And something as you go into you know, the chosen

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<v Speaker 1>speech or the divine always finding a way to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you get what you need for the journey. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you what made me do the movie. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't me. No cool running lines with you did

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<v Speaker 1>not get me further than to suck up your whole.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you want to be able to say, as

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<v Speaker 1>the light spanned man with the base milk cream sugar

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<v Speaker 1>sweater with the stripes. I want you to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to if it wasn't for me, because he just he

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<v Speaker 1>just but the baby boys not included with me. No,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna tell you what happened. John Singleton said

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<v Speaker 1>to me that he wrote the movie for Tupac. Tupac

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be Jody, and he literally wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>movie with Pac in mind because they had already done

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things poetic justice blah blah blah. So

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<v Speaker 1>when Poc got killed in ninety six, he basically it

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<v Speaker 1>was never announced, He was never in pre production. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just something that he was writing with Tupac in

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<v Speaker 1>mine and and so yeah, when he when he got

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<v Speaker 1>killed in Vegas, John was depressed for years because that

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<v Speaker 1>was his best friend, um soul mate. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>just they just linked and clicked up. You know. John

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<v Speaker 1>was always a super weirdo, but he a hood nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just he loved who he loved, and he

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<v Speaker 1>loved me. He loved Pock, he loved Cube and blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. So yeah, when he told me the story

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that he wrote this movie for a

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<v Speaker 1>Tupac and he has not met anyone before me, that

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<v Speaker 1>reminds He's like these his words, not mine. You remind

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<v Speaker 1>me of Poc. You loud, you're funny, your alpha, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got all and then you was raised by your mama.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, no father in the house. A Phoenie Shakor

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<v Speaker 1>raised pot. So he was making all these connections to

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<v Speaker 1>Poc to me and he said, you remind me of Poc.

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<v Speaker 1>You vocal, you outspoken, You're not afraid of no controversy, politics, life, love, spirituality.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I wasn't book studied like Pock. But he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you remind me of Pock. I'm not talking about rapping

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<v Speaker 1>about just as an overall energy. And when he said

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<v Speaker 1>that to me, that fucked me up and it created

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<v Speaker 1>it created a feeling in me that was never there

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<v Speaker 1>from just him chasing me to be a movie star.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't interested in that. I was out here getting

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<v Speaker 1>some some real sweet lady vaginal activity. I was the

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<v Speaker 1>vaginal activity was cracking, and I wanted no parts of

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the pause button on this level of juice that

1:10:30.720 --> 1:10:38.960
<v Speaker 1>was flowing. Okay, that's real shit, listen. I was very

1:10:39.040 --> 1:10:42.479
<v Speaker 1>happy that I wasn't heavily associated to the church, you know,

1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:45.760
<v Speaker 1>because there was there was nobody able to play on

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<v Speaker 1>me and say, oh, look at them, he's singing in

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<v Speaker 1>the church. Now he I his single devil music with

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<v Speaker 1>all these groups around you know, shit the tankers dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with that wasn't my story. So I was never heavily

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<v Speaker 1>associated to anything like what groupies are you? I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been an upstanding church, uh, sir? Remember of church, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not only not only were you born and raised

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<v Speaker 1>in the church, but you're also preach a PK. You

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<v Speaker 1>your pastor's kid. Um, so you're all the way grandkid, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pkk um. Okay, So okay, so grandfather, my grandfather, I'm

1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:32.720
<v Speaker 1>ak my grandmother, Oh praise God. Yeah, I'm playing my grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Jean Giles. My grandfather was a pastor, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're one of the same. Yeah. Yeah, my grandfather rest

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<v Speaker 1>in peace. Name was Reverend Ellis. Yeah okay. The woman

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<v Speaker 1>he got pregnant name was Bobby Gibson. And back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, back in that era, if you ever got

1:11:55.520 --> 1:11:59.200
<v Speaker 1>had a child when you wasn't married, then the child

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<v Speaker 1>would automatically get the woman's last name. So my grandfather Ellis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd have been Tyrese Ellis, you'd have been able

1:12:17.120 --> 1:12:22.400
<v Speaker 1>to hoop. Ellis is a great people last name. Just

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<v Speaker 1>the arms right there, No, no, sir. So my grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>had a major church in Saint Louis, Reverend Ellis. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, just like you man, we love speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>we love pouring spirituality, putting our motivational inspirational out there,

1:12:42.960 --> 1:12:47.120
<v Speaker 1>pouring pouring into people. We love pouring in. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a natural thing for us to want to help an

1:12:50.200 --> 1:12:53.439
<v Speaker 1>uplift and build. I got five thousand videos all over

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube with my motivational inspirational stuff because I first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I want people to know I've never said this publicly.

1:13:00.600 --> 1:13:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I want people to know that I do carry a

1:13:04.120 --> 1:13:10.799
<v Speaker 1>particular level of guilt about being this successful. It wears

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<v Speaker 1>on me. And so my way of giving it all

1:13:16.479 --> 1:13:20.120
<v Speaker 1>away is to write the longest captions and to post

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<v Speaker 1>and put up my inspirational videos and do interviews where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking and pouring. Because there is somebody who wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to commit suicide before they've seen this interview that we're

1:13:33.080 --> 1:13:37.479
<v Speaker 1>doing right now, and if you understand the responsibility of

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<v Speaker 1>the stage and the platform not just on some groupie

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<v Speaker 1>and fun and bling bling and what you're driving or

1:13:43.200 --> 1:13:46.440
<v Speaker 1>what you're living in. As we all know, multi millionaires

1:13:46.520 --> 1:13:49.920
<v Speaker 1>killed themselves every day. People that got the biggest homes

1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and private planes, they killed themselves every day, Which means

1:13:54.479 --> 1:13:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that you may be broke and feel like if I

1:13:57.000 --> 1:13:59.680
<v Speaker 1>had money, then maybe these suicide thoughts wouldn't be there.

1:14:00.080 --> 1:14:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Suicide thoughts will still follow you into your bigger net worth.

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<v Speaker 1>So for us to have the stage, in the platform

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<v Speaker 1>and the voice and not use it to benefit people

1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:14.639
<v Speaker 1>who believe in us and don't believe in Jesus, talk

1:14:14.640 --> 1:14:16.880
<v Speaker 1>about it. There's people out here who don't have no

1:14:17.200 --> 1:14:19.880
<v Speaker 1>nothing that they've tapped into. And the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>continue posting about the goodness of the Lord Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say the Lord Jesus Christ is my Lord

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<v Speaker 1>and savior. There is no such thing as inhaling and

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<v Speaker 1>exhaling without God. The fact that I'm even sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about anything that's ever been achieved and done

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<v Speaker 1>is because these are the things that God had in

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<v Speaker 1>mind for me and had in mind for y'all. And

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<v Speaker 1>who are you to be threatened and insecure and intimidated

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<v Speaker 1>about what somebody else have when I didn't even think

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<v Speaker 1>I would ever have it for myself. So I do

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<v Speaker 1>carry a particular level of guilt, which is why I

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<v Speaker 1>always go out of my way to give it all away.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what I say and how often I say it

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<v Speaker 1>may not work for people for something, and that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but guess what you may be eyed in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>So all its rambling and long ass capturing all this

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<v Speaker 1>motivations you got going on that ain't for me. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather go listen to jay Z or go listen to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else. Go listen to Kanye, Go listen to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else talk about whatever it is they're talking about. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the beauty of social media unfollowed. But as far

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<v Speaker 1>as you following me, I just need you'll to understand

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot of friends. These are my

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<v Speaker 1>closest friends sitting right here, and I don't see you

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<v Speaker 1>all that often, and we live up the street from

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Because I don't necessarily want people around me

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So my way of feeling like I'm giving

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<v Speaker 1>it all away and I'm returning the love and feeling

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure of success. You becoming successful. It's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be because you see me pull up in the

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<v Speaker 1>rolls Royce. I have a responsibility to give people the

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<v Speaker 1>information and the details of what I did and how

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<v Speaker 1>I went about it in order for them to go, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you got it. Don't be inspired by the

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<v Speaker 1>nigga with the shiny building. Be inspired by the man

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<v Speaker 1>that's willing to tell you the details of how we

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<v Speaker 1>got the shiny building, because it's not lonely at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>If you help somebody else get there so long before

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<v Speaker 1>I even got on. That's who I am. That's always

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<v Speaker 1>who I've been. The reason my phone rings and people

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<v Speaker 1>want to have those conversations with the gun in their hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've all gotten that call from somebody at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why God trusted you to call me

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment, but I first want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I thank God for you just being willing to call me,

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me that this is what's on your mind

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna figure it out and it happens. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just want y'all to know, like, yeah, singing is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Being a movie star is cool. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a gateway into what God is using me for.

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<v Speaker 1>And and some of my messages, some of my approaches

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<v Speaker 1>to the message may make you feel a way, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be uncomfortable. You might though he's trolling. Oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>so annoying, he's cringe word. I've seen it all in

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<v Speaker 1>my comments. But it hasn't stopped me from pouring into

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<v Speaker 1>people because you never know who, when, where, and why

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<v Speaker 1>someone needed that message at that very moment. Not as

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<v Speaker 1>a pastor, how as a prophet, not as someone at

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<v Speaker 1>the pool pit. Just me understanding my stage or my

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<v Speaker 1>platform and wanting to build anybody who's willing to let

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<v Speaker 1>me build them up. That's why I do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>even the way we got into this conversation, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>vaginal activity, Yes, they deserve untreated wood. Yeah, going back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a great segue though, because we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about I like them girls going back, So you

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say this before he went TD Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>t jas um, you know, and and this is no disrespect, um, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no disrespect to Tupacs your core. Um. He's he's he's um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, absolutely amazing, phenomenal human being. You were perfect

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<v Speaker 1>for that movie. I was perfect for because Park never

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to do it. I can't speak to that.

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<v Speaker 1>What I can speak to is this, this movie, this role.

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<v Speaker 1>You were so great and so I hate to use

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<v Speaker 1>the word perfect, but I mean why not. He was

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<v Speaker 1>so perfect in that in in that role and in

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<v Speaker 1>that movie that no matter what you do, you will

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<v Speaker 1>never be able to shed that ever, no what I

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<v Speaker 1>ever tried, you will always be a part of for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what they see. Baby, And you're gonna have Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have fastest and furiousnesses and transformers and everything

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<v Speaker 1>else that you're going into parmacists pharmacists and and full

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<v Speaker 1>brothers wasting black and black like you're gonna You're you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have successes, you know, continue to have successes beyond

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<v Speaker 1>your wildest dreams, right based in based on your disbelief.

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<v Speaker 1>But that thing right there, that starting point right there,

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<v Speaker 1>What a building block, What a foundational block to have

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<v Speaker 1>your building standing on that great Now, I have I

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<v Speaker 1>have a question. Okay, thank you the girls, Let's hold out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the start of part two. Okay, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have a question. I have a question. You

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<v Speaker 1>can turn into Robert Please, you know what, don't you

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