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Speaker 1: on all things R and B ladies and gentlemen. My

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Speaker 1: name is Take. I'm Jay Valentine. And this it's the

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Speaker 1: R and B Money Podcast. What you said again, what's

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Speaker 1: the name of the R Money Yeah podcast? A lot

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Speaker 1: of money, A whole lot of whole lot of money

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Speaker 1: and to be authority on all things yeah, yeah, harm

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Speaker 1: b Oh you see me, you see me? You see

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Speaker 1: me weaving? Oh, they've been waiting. Yeah, they've been, won't

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Speaker 1: They've been in the compart. They've been at the comment.

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Speaker 1: Is he when we gonna see he? Huh? Is he

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Speaker 1: coming to see you? We got a man in the building.

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Speaker 1: My god? Who we got it? My god? We have

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Speaker 1: we have one of the greatest talents our generation has

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Speaker 1: ever seen. Oh one of them we have. We have

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Speaker 1: one of them. Uh. The boy. The boy loves to

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Speaker 1: call himself chocolate. That's what that's call said. He let

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Speaker 1: a shout out to the ladies. How many ladies want

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Speaker 1: this chocolate? That's that's what he says. The man is

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Speaker 1: gross over a billion dollars at the box office, ten billion,

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Speaker 1: ten billion dollars at the box office. Nine short they

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Speaker 1: want to see him all the time. Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Thanks some noise for my brother. So you told you,

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Speaker 1: you told me you how to disclaimer? Oh yeah you want.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm so happy to be here, many.

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Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite shows that I ain't

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Speaker 1: been on yet. This is for real, man. I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy for y'all. I just want to put y'all. Put

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Speaker 1: y'all at ease real quick. If you sensitive, don't watch this. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you don't do well with tough topics and people

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Speaker 1: being raw and unfiltered, just go go look at something.

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Speaker 1: There's so much shit going on on social media, just

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Speaker 1: swipe and keep going. Were about to unpack this R

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Speaker 1: these are my brothers. I might drop a tier two.

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Speaker 1: I do have a scheduled tier scheduled Tier three five,

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Speaker 1: three forty five. If you just tune around, you stick

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Speaker 1: But I'm happy to be here, man. But if you

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Speaker 1: about to get real. First of all, to be here,

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Speaker 1: flowers to you, my brother, Manum flowers to you, my brother.

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Speaker 1: We all know what this is. And ninety eight when

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Speaker 1: on like that. He's saying, row of them, some of

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Speaker 1: That is unheard of. Soap flowers, UM for continuing to

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Speaker 1: be great. Thank you and representing UM for the culture.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, UM the right way. And now let's get

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Speaker 1: is like I've never seen this. Let's get he's getting ready. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Why did I break up. That's a big it's a loader,

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Speaker 1: But then the two to that is that you were right.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm the music man. I am the music man, Jake.

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Speaker 1: We had a production company making music. That's what we did, right, Jack.

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Speaker 1: and you won't get out of my way. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: how you make make magic instances. That's how I make magic.

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Speaker 1: so what does that mean? What did I do wrong?

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Speaker 1: You knew that Jay Valentine literally he left the room.

422
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: He was out on the side of a mountain, gazing, gazing,

423
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: day dreaming. We lost him for about fifteen minutes because

424
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: of me announcing tgt's got a new deal that is

425
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: unbelievable letters. Okay, maybe I phrased it. Room. Can I

426
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: get another shot? We're calling. Can I get a take?

427
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Moving on? We can't get a take too. We're done here.

428
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Um you all right now? Can I

429
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: have a Jay Valentine owner and gaze off for a second.

430
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, We're gonna. I want to get it. I

431
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: want to get into Tyree's. I just got them to

432
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: agree to teach the singer the solo artist. Nothing is signed,

433
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: nothing is negotiated. When I first met you, shy Reese, Um,

434
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: we went to New York to work on some music

435
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: and went to the studio and just you know, gott

436
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: it cracking and I was I had to god. Man,

437
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: He's like, don't leave. I was like, I gotta go,

438
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't let me leave, and he's like, you

439
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: can stay with me. You know what I'm saying in

440
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: my spot? And um we went to your spot and

441
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: I was like, what's that smell? It's like, is that

442
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: your feet? I get this is the worst inter canceled

443
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: the ship where my brother. I think me and man

444
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: I have clearly starred niggers in real time. You're bro,

445
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: you are a part of you are part of my life,

446
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: my lineage brother. I couldn't separate from you. I want

447
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: to get it to you as the artist man, because um,

448
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: let's go back, let's go to watch. Let's get people

449
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: an opportunity. I want to go back to where let's

450
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: get people an opportunity to stop thinking about my feet. Okay,

451
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: I was. I had to get I was ninety eight

452
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: to just different. Yeah, I washed my feet and he's

453
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: panic cures. I could afford them. Now. The hell, you

454
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: actually built, You built a spot. That's what you do.

455
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: You built stuff. We'll get to your building and now too.

456
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: Tell me, j if you pissed me off today, I'm

457
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, tell me tell me. And I know we've

458
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: heard this. I know you know you you've been able

459
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: to tell this story in a in a few on

460
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: a few different forms. But give me the energy that

461
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: you feel when you realize that you have a gift,

462
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: when somebody points it out to you, or it just

463
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: comes to you, you were like, oh shit, I'm different. Um,

464
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: it's it's been happening for me. Um, long before I

465
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: got on you know. Um, I was always the center

466
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: of attention everywhere I went. I was always the class clown.

467
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: It would be no such thing as ever running into

468
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: me when I was seven, eight, nine years old and

469
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: and not remembering I remember that kid, you know, because

470
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: that was just I was always you know, as my

471
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: mom rest in peace would say, I was always marked,

472
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was. I'm a marked man.

473
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's now here's the thing. Being special.

474
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: Are believing that you're special? Are people saying that you're special?

475
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: There's something about you wasn't necessarily connected to talent that

476
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: early on. There was no nine year old singing tyrese.

477
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: There there was no ten year old actor and it

478
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: never happened for me that early in the game. But

479
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: as far as me just always being special, like I

480
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: think Brandy literally Brandy Norwood, who I love, has been

481
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: best friends with me since I was eleven years old,

482
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: and me, Brandy and Ray J used to sing at

483
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: a park in Watt's called where Rogers Park, which they

484
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: now called Ted Watkins Park. They from Mississippi, but they

485
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: moved to Carson, so the only thing cracking in south

486
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: central LA was these shows that was hosted at where

487
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: Rogers Park, and we would do these talent shows and

488
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: Brandy used to say to me, at eleven years old,

489
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: you a star, And it would make me so uncomfortable because,

490
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: for one, I didn't know what it was. I didn't

491
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: have no way of wrapping my head around this word.

492
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was supposed to become. It's

493
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: almost like somebody saying you're sexy, but you don't really

494
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: know what it means. You don't know what clothes, what

495
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: your haircut should be, or how do I embrace this

496
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: word that someone is suddenly calling me. So, yeah, when

497
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: I was when I was young, bro, my whole life,

498
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: I've always been you know what people would define this magic,

499
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: like I know how to make everybody feel good around me.

500
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: I have this charm, this charisma, this energy that that

501
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a communicator. I've always been a communicator.

502
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: I've always been considered an old soul. You know. There

503
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: was nothing about me that that says, yeah, you were

504
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: born and raised in south central LA. But it was

505
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: very clear early on that I was born here, but

506
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm not of here. I'm not of this cripping and

507
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: blood and gangster selling drugs, excessive force, murder, you know,

508
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: anything that's going on, prostitution, whatever I grew up in

509
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: and around my whole life. Nothing in me early on

510
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: felt like the outcome of my life is going to

511
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: be the environment that I grew up in. So sorry

512
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: for the long ND. Yeah that's the truth. That's I

513
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: for sure thought I was going to be in a

514
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: gang when I was going up because that's all that

515
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: was around me, you know. So as we run around

516
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: little kids, seeing all the gangsters like that was the

517
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: cool thing. Yeah, So I was like, shoot, let me

518
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: call if just pitch fork in my arm. Let him

519
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: know that I'm trying to I'm trying to be on.

520
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be part of it. Pitch for it.

521
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: You gotta explaining that Midwest, But what is what is

522
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: the pitchfork me? That's just I don't need to be

523
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: part of Okay, got you at the early age, but

524
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm making a parallel because I didn't. I

525
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: didn't have this magical thing that you're having at that age.

526
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: Like I was more invisible. But you know what, everything

527
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: about singing or doing music, they look at you as

528
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: soft when you were in the hood. If you were

529
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: in the hood for real singing, it was fuck out

530
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: of here what you're singing at? You know. I was

531
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: just in the choir though I wasn't like, never did nothing.

532
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I was rapping. It's what I was doing because we

533
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: got black Tie and her MC hurricane, So I was

534
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: rapping out here today. MC herricane. Yeah, I've never heard

535
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: that name. Yeah, I mean you know, yeah, I only

536
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: pull it out. I was in a rap group called

537
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: Triple Impact. Triple Impact, Triple that's three y'all. It was

538
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: three my boy Michael, my boy Randy, three of us.

539
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: So in the hood. You know that's that's what you did. Yeah,

540
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: because I'm in Watts right next to Compton, right next

541
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: to Lone be So the pressure to rap for me

542
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: was on a whole nother strato field because we got

543
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: NWA ice cube snoop out of Long Beach, like West

544
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: Coast was the West Coast and what it became because

545
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: of gangster rap on the West Coast. So you know,

546
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be Nate dog, you know with

547
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: my singing. And I was like, well, maybe the singing

548
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: shit ain't for me, but you knew you could sing.

549
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: You didn't know. I know. I did not know I

550
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: could sing till I was like fourteen. But the talent

551
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: shows with Brandy and ray J. You singing are rapping?

552
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: Are you? Oh sorry? I was singing okay, But talent shows,

553
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: talent shows and getting on stage to sing wasn't this

554
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: definitive thing that I want to do this for my life.

555
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: And other than being in that talent show singing, I

556
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: didn't feel safe and it didn't feel welcome on any

557
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: level in the hood. Get your singing ass, get your

558
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: soft singing, whatever that may be. So you're in the

559
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: rape when you go an audition for the commercial Are

560
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: You the Rap? Thing happened many years before that, and

561
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: then I started wrapping my head around singing, but did

562
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: not know that I wanted to make it a career,

563
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: you know, because all right, well here's this talent show,

564
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: let me fall in. It's no different than nigga's playing

565
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: basketball or you know. I played Pop Warner football, not

566
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: no sports nigga like that. But I played because that's

567
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: what you're doing in the hood, and you know, it's masculine,

568
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: it's alpha. You ain't. You ain't doing no singing. That

569
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: shit is soft, you know, on a hood level like

570
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: where I'm from. So singing was discouraged, you know. And

571
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't singing in the church. So it's not like

572
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: anybody who's in the hood is going to church just

573
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: looking at this kids singing in the choir lead singing.

574
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: None of that was happening. So I had no gateway

575
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: into R and B, no gateway into boy, you sung

576
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: your butt off the other day, I hope the Lord

577
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: continue to use you. And I never had none of that.

578
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: So my thing was skip church. Even though I was

579
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: in church, I wasn't in church singing. Skip church and

580
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: whatever energy that can create for me with my vocals

581
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: in the hood and now go straight into too singing.

582
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: It's crypts, bloods, gangsters, essays, police, prostitution, murder, and this

583
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: nigga out here singing. Yeah, this nigga out here singing,

584
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up and let's get back to this cripper.

585
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: That's just what it is. Nobody is surprised about anything

586
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: that's happening for my life and career. They all knew.

587
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: It was obvious that I had that oil on me

588
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: and something was going to happen. And it was not

589
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: like I'm, you know, holding good notes at three years

590
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: old or playing the drums at three, or he's a

591
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: he's a genius. I had none of that going. But

592
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: once you met me seven, eight, ten, twelve years old,

593
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: something was on my life. And it was very clear.

594
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: Before I knew I could sing, before I knew anything

595
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: about talent, I was already this, you know, as people

596
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: would say or describe a magnet a star. Something about

597
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: me had this energy on me that I'm whenever you

598
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: figure out, whenever God figure out who and what you

599
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: are destined to be, You're gonna be something. Yeah. To

600
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: know that I have this aura or this magnetism or

601
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: energy all over me everywhere I go, class clown cracking jokes.

602
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: Something is on this guy. Can he sing? I don't know?

603
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: Ken he rap? I don't know? Is he actor? I

604
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: don't know. None of that was discovered back then. So

605
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: after I did the co commercial and I was singing

606
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: on the bus, that's when it confirmed in my own spirit. Okay,

607
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: so maybe this singing thing is for you at that point. Yeah,

608
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: maybe saying things for you, because at that point I'm

609
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: trying everything. I played baseball, football, basketball, I ran track,

610
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: I was doing it. I was like, I gotta figure

611
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: out what God has in mind. You played basketball? Yeah,

612
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: you see you can't play basketball, man, You see you

613
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. Let him. I let him get

614
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: away with football. I left. I let that slow it down,

615
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: go easy. I was just gonna let him rock. Yeah,

616
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: it's all right. Thank ain't good at everything. Tank ain't

617
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: good with everything. As long as you got me there,

618
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: it's crazy, bro, you think it's a crazy So I

619
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: did not know what my talent was. I just knew,

620
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, think of me as a personality. That's the

621
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: only thing I had. When it comes to cracking jokes

622
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: and clowning. There's nobody at my school that could fuck

623
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: with me. I would. They'd be like, yeah, oh oh,

624
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: it'd be like bagging or cracking jokes like I was

625
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: the king amongst my whole squad. So once the CO

626
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: commercial happened, the Hollywood thing would have been check out

627
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: of school. You're famous. I felt more. I felt more

628
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: safe at school than anywhere else I went because everything

629
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: about me cracking jokes and having a community of my tribe,

630
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: all my hood niggas, everybody from my school that was

631
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: school for me, and I did not want to graduate.

632
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I did not want to check out because

633
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: of this sudden fame. So so you're the Coca Cola man. Yeah,

634
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: it's going crazy. Who calls you and says, I think

635
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: we have a meeting for a record deal for you.

636
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: There's a twenty record label bidding war when we had

637
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: labels off for the commercial off the CO commercial, So goodness.

638
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: Daryl Jones, who we all love from, Daryl Jones was

639
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: literally sent summoned by Andre Horrell to come to my campus.

640
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: He was literally sent to Lock High School when I

641
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: was sixteen. Andre Horrell said go find him he reached

642
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: out to my music teacher, Reggie Andrews said, yeah, you

643
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: can come in and meet him. So now all these

644
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: record labels is trying to sign the kids from the

645
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: co commercial. They're now showing up on my campus in school.

646
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: Daryl Jones, sixteen years old was on my campus like

647
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: an NBA scout courting me. He told you, he who

648
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: shut up, different kind of who according me doing whatever

649
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: it takes to charm and give me whatever energy like honey, busy,

650
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: we kind of fooled you, like you know. So he's

651
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: at my school. Bro a few times Daryl Jones showed up,

652
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: popping up, popping up. Andre Horrell said, there is no

653
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: way we are not going to sign this kid at

654
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: the time. Rest in peace to the Big Homy who

655
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: was a legend icon. We love you, We honor you.

656
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: Um we had the honor of giving you your flowers

657
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: while you was with us. But Andre Horrel, with my

658
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: knowledge today, would have been the better choice. Mary J. Blige,

659
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: Heavy d All Joda see all of it. You know

660
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: this is a guy, a real music guy, not just

661
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: an executive, not a figurehead of Labom, a real guy artist, development,

662
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: the visuals, the videos, really not giving the artists an

663
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: opportunity to mold and shape the direction and create art

664
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: and music. Um, but Andre didn't offer the bag. I

665
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: already knew it. Already knew he's gonna say that Urca

666
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: offered the bag. What kind of bag was it? Uh?

667
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: Two and a half million at sixteen sixteen two point

668
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: five two and a half, Yeah, you were two and

669
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: a half million dollars is in nineteen ninety twenty three.

670
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: A lot of still stretch, Yeah, stretch, But obviously that's

671
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: not two and a half million dollars that was given

672
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: to me, and that's the budget, that's the you know,

673
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: the cost of the album, the videos, just whatever. So yeah,

674
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: two and a half mil I bought my first house,

675
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: a sixteen four bedroom, two car garages right off the

676
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: golf course and Hawthorne. Yeah. So they said there was

677
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: a one nigga that was a hood nigga walked up

678
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: to me. If you're sensitive about the N word, sorry,

679
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: there was a hood nigga that said to me, hey, man,

680
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: you've never seen this kind of money. He said, Man,

681
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: you know because it's so crazy because all my real

682
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: ones from South central La Watts to this day. Bro,

683
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people name dropping and telling stories.

684
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: You know, you got history versus history. All my real ones.

685
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: They're all so happy for me to this day, not jealous.

686
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: Give me real love. Doesn't matter what I'm doing and

687
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: how far in between I see him all love. So

688
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: a hood nigga walked up to me. He said, Hey, Reese,

689
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: go kill that ship, bro, exact words, go kill that ship. Bro.

690
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: Hey listen, any nigga ever try and come at you,

691
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: don't try and be us. We do this cript shit

692
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, seven days a week. We do this

693
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: for real. If anybody ever try and come at you,

694
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: just call us. We don't need to be with you,

695
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: need to be a part of your click, your entourage traveling.

696
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: Most of US's hood niggas, we don't like the lead

697
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: a hood anyway. Go do your thing, and oh yeah,

698
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: don't be one of them should or would have cut us.

699
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: Go buy a house, Go make certain investments, because if

700
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: the shit hits the fan a year or two from

701
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: now and nobody's calling your name, just have something to

702
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: show for. And not only did I buy one, I

703
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: bought two hours before I was twenty two. If I

704
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: got one hit out of it and it's over. I

705
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: at least own a home with equity. Let I'm talking,

706
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about that one hit because Nigga boy, sweet

707
00:47:53,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: motherfucking lighting, Praise God. Takee and the characters and the

708
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: character before there was an Underdogs that was the character.

709
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: Yes there was. Listen. I remember the first time I

710
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: heard that record, I'm like, oh, he's out of here

711
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: because I had seen the commercial and I'm like, oh, dude, dope.

712
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Because as singers, you can hear the smallest little inflections,

713
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: little things or what you making the fun huh, Because

714
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: because as singers, did you say no. I mean, I'm like,

715
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not from LA. I don't play No Blood,

716
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: but I don't play No l a game. I'm from

717
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: the band no different. It comes from young Blood, it

718
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: comes from yet Megang for the movie. But so I hear,

719
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, as like we said, we hear things as singers,

720
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, he got it. He called that

721
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: nigga tough. Even from that little piece that you sang

722
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: on that commercial wasn't oh it isn't a full song,

723
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: it ain't nothing. But I was like, he got something.

724
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: But then you just know music, It's like what comes next.

725
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: Sweet lady bro Sweet lady versus was I don't want no,

726
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: And that's when I That's when I was like. That's

727
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: when I was like, Because I was at a performance

728
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: you were doing and I was watching you warm up,

729
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: and when you're warming up, you die the backflip. I

730
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this nigga really trying to be this

731
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: nigga really want to be me? Oh you flip flip flip.

732
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: I stopped playing twenty hands Rings in the row, Sherman

733
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: started traveling in your front yard. What are you saying?

734
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: What do you say? I have a flip at the nigga?

735
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: Are we doing double back double flip flop flip flop

736
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: backs on grass? What are you talking about? I did

737
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: double backs on grass. I'm talking about grass. You don't

738
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: want that work? Yeah, you don't want this work? Come

739
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: about the same thing. Can't do a double back right now,

740
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: you guys that don't know. These guys are born two

741
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: days apart, so I know it's double triple back? Can

742
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: impact trip back? When I saw you do that, and

743
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, because I wasn't out yet, I

744
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: was kind of signed RCA, but I wasn't you know,

745
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't working, so I was just kind of following

746
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: you around, still following genuine around. I was like, you

747
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: did that backflip? I was like, oh, he's good. It

748
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: was a part of my he's going in the hood

749
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: man on pissie battresses in the field, easy backflip. But

750
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: then Sweet Lady came out me clip from Jerry sitting

751
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: upstairs something like this. Yeah it was. It wasn't no

752
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: turning back and what are you about? Seventeen now right?

753
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: Took about a year between um the album was released

754
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: in ninety eight. I did nobody else. First of all,

755
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: I was a video vixen first for our sure, well

756
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: you know it's a vixen paying my dudes. Yeah no,

757
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: but that wasn't before Sweet Lady. It was. It was

758
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: before nobody else. It was, was it? Yes, I just

759
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: knew you, So that's why I'm thinking. Yeah, I did

760
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: my way video with I never realized that Frank Frank

761
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: Gatson shout out to Frank Gatson on the plug. I don't.

762
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't know I was shout out Frank Gatson for that.

763
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't why not, I would he was he was

764
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: doing the whole video. Yeah, I just as soon think

765
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: that was the look. You don't think that was you

766
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: had this happening. You don't think I should have did

767
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: that video? Dude, Wow, you gonna say this twenty some

768
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: years later, I'm sorry tanked the videos out there. It's

769
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: like it's like it's like it's like when Prince turned

770
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: down bad. There was nothing compromising about doing the my

771
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: Way video with with with Prince telling stories about what

772
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson wanted him to do. No, Michael Jackson wanted

773
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: him to be the villain in the video, but there

774
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: were some things that he wanted him to either say

775
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: or it would just be the feeling I'm gonna beat

776
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: you up. I win got you in the first lyrical

777
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: songs Your but it's mine. He's like, I should I

778
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. I shoul didn't do that. He know

779
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: he he told you he liked it his way. Okay,

780
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: pause twenty something later. No, he's saying that to the girls.

781
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: He's saying to your girl, she likes it. She telling

782
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: you about your girl. Your girl like it my way?

783
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: Look out. I mean he definitely took your bride. He

784
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: took your girl. Did he take my girl? Yes? I

785
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: need to look at the video cut. This feeling has

786
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: been festering for years. But that wasn't a good look.

787
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: She likes it my way, and he took my girl.

788
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 1: Wasn't my girl? It's his video. It was a girl

789
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: you want it? That's why you had to tell you

790
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: whoa bro? She like my way? Whoa Coca Cola? Who?

791
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: Who Coca cola? Whoa bottom? Whoa bottom? Man? She like

792
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: it my way? Right? Even I didn't even know what

793
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: sweet Lady was, but any songs I made like Sweet

794
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: Lady did not know. Was it written for you? Yes?

795
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: It was. No, it was Taylor for you. No, John

796
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: Tay Austin wrote it when he was sixteen for him

797
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, Hella was a song that they were

798
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: sitting on elevator, but they didn't. Yeah, Troy Taylor, God

799
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: bless you to this day. I stuck to the formula.

800
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't sing backgrounds. The backgrounds on my first single

801
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: for two thousand wats Jave Valentine, We ain't got there yet?

802
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: Sung all you know that song? I like them girls,

803
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: all of the vocals, some live still. Yeah, you said,

804
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, I'm gonna get a shot. Listen, We'll

805
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: keep all up it and listen it was that was

806
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: never the intention. Yo. You you hit thank you, thank you,

807
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: thank you. Many years later, Jay Valentine, they would be no,

808
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: I like them, girls would ask Ja Valentine, that ain't

809
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: doing good? Can you give it to us? Hell no,

810
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: you're a singer. I know y'all new song it was fly.

811
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: You can't give us. We're not skipping steps? Can you come?

812
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: I just want three fans. You're not taking over the Okay,

813
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: I gotta take over a spirit? Calm? Can I guess

814
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: the water? Relax? I got to have the room. You

815
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: guys have water to this guy just right there, right there,

816
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: your waters right there. I got relax, like he's skipping steps.

817
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: Then you go again skipping Give me first of all.

818
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: First of all, first of all, sir, y'all didn't give

819
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: me no pre interview to tell me the structure and

820
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: what we're gonna cover and whatever secrets well we're covering?

821
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: Is you okay? And I just wanted him to give

822
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: to love and sing. I liked them so yet what

823
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: we still on? Sweet lady? I just tell you what

824
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, sing monkey, no single money with the baby here?

825
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: All right? We were talking about Troy Taylor singing on

826
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: the background, and I went to the obvious you did

827
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: it before, Troy, I like, no, that's not sweet, ladies,

828
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: super smash, You're you're you're on track to be extremely successful.

829
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be a two part it's absolutely,

830
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah, absolutely, And going on to extreme you

831
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: said what and you're going on tours, so it's gotta

832
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: be a two part and go ahead? Extremely successful. At

833
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: this point, are you are you really starting to understand

834
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: what's happening. No, you have no idea, no, no clue. Wow,

835
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: completely in disbelief. Going back to that humility and humble

836
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: and gratitude, which I'm still humbling, grateful, but you're not

837
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: that humble. He might be grateful, you're not that humble.

838
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: I was talking to him. Is this what y'all do?

839
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: Is he just he's throwing logs and I heard go back,

840
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: I hurt you. Okay, So I don't see. Let's address that.

841
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: I don't think Tyrese is not humble. I just think

842
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: said he was born with the glove. I just he

843
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: didn't say he just I just I just I just

844
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: think he shouldn't say anything wrong with that. And I

845
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: didn't say it about myself. This is what you upset

846
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: about it. You said, you said you felt it your bar.

847
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: You can't cut clothe. I just think Tyreech is a

848
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: ty is just a strong personality and anything he says.

849
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was born with a glow.

850
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: It could be taken like as a baby, as a

851
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: as a baby, as a baby when the doctor pulled

852
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: me out, it's like a lights and and my mom

853
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: was like, what's that shine? And he was like, that's

854
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: your baby. You know what it says. That's basically what

855
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: you said. You just what your baby? Is that a halo? Like?

856
00:57:54,800 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: Get some kind of got My shouldn't be sliding? Send

857
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: the budget. You had your feet up, slide. You're doing

858
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: everything you can't. The seat should not be sliding like

859
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: this because I won't be the first in the last

860
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: to laugh. Everybody has that seat until you can't. All right, whatever,

861
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: sending the budget, they'll crow out. R and B Money

862
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: podcast with the slide and seats go back, go back

863
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: to what you're saying that you'll see the slide. I'm

864
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: sitting on the strong personality, strong in believing in what

865
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: he feels and and sometimes you cannot hear what he's

866
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: saying versus versus how you feel it's being conveyed, because

867
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: when Terrys talks, it's like it's theater talk. I don't

868
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: know if you learn that ving rams or no, if

869
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: that was just you know, when you talk, it's like

870
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's a moment, you know what I mean?

871
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: So you being able to control rooms, but you got

872
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 1: the same thing, dang, no, no, no, okay, you don't

873
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: have a strong I have a strong voice, but your

874
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: natural entrance as soon as you walk in the room,

875
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: you're already there. Hey, what's going on? Everybody? How you doing? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

876
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, like you're it's immediate, y'all. Funny man.

877
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: But I mean, but and so people can term R

878
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: and B money podcast. Uh you're a fan, no, not

879
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: just a paper twel in the budget? Yeah yeah, listen

880
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: to budget? And then does your paper towel? Uh? Does

881
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: it is gonna leave anyway. Let me let me just

882
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: get you, Let me get you some Let me get

883
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: you some air. No, I'm I don't want air. I'm cool.

884
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: I just want to wipe off this uh, this this gloss,

885
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, set, Yeah, got to worry about that. I

886
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: know what happens when you got curls. He goes here.

887
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: But anyway, um, yeah, you have no idea. Get you

888
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: about to sell a boatload of records and go crazy, um,

889
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: amazing moment, amazing song. And then because I want to,

890
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: I want to jump to Jay Valentine and I like

891
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: them girls. But there's a backstory to this. Yeah all right,

892
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: I please, I don't remember no no, no, no, so

893
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: because before the record was just us kicking it. You

894
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: come out of the studio. At this point, I'm working

895
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: with Damon Thomas and one night we're just in there,

896
01:00:53,960 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: we vibing. Man, we're working, and You're like, Jay, I

897
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: got a long ride. You want to roll with me?

898
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, nigga, we're talking about? We en't and

899
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: see though, I'm like where you live because I'm you know,

900
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: my whole thing too. I'm like we're both young, eighteen

901
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: years old at the time. I think, I'm like, Dn

902
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: this nigga got drive wherever it sounds far. He's like, yeah,

903
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 1: I gotta go to Hawthorne. Where the fuck is Hardthorn? Nigga,

904
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm not from here. I'm like, what is Hawthorne about?

905
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: An hour or something about from here. I'm like, fuck, Nigga,

906
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: Gil tripped me. I'm like, all right, dog because he

907
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, Nigga, when the studio we're working, we're doing

908
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: a little shit. Not no, we ain't moved to know.

909
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: I like them girls. This is down the line. So

910
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck it, bro, I roll with you man,

911
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: this nigga get the Hawthorne. I'm thinking this nigga sleepy.

912
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: So we get to this nigga house. He got drums

913
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: in the garage. I'm like, tired, Nigga. The guest room, niggat,

914
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: it's you in this big ass house by yourself. A townhouse.

915
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: Nigga showed me my room was not a townhouse. What

916
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: was it? There was a four bedroom house. Oh, he go.

917
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean, don't disrespect six of sixteen. Don't down play.

918
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: You're not sixteen now. I was eighteen. I was eighteen.

919
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: I was still in mind. It was a house. He

920
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: had a house man. But they were connecting. I'll be

921
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: trying to hear me. Hear me. I'm trying to maintain

922
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: that he's humble, that he has not and I said

923
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: this a long time and he's not tired. It's three

924
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: to four in the morning, he liked. So I'm still

925
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still trying to find my room at this

926
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: nigga's house. Man. I'm like, I ain't never been here.

927
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: Where do I go? No? No, not, coming real quick,

928
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: come real quick. He grabs a stack of papers. I

929
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: don't know what these stack of papers are. I've never

930
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: seen a movie script before. I don't know what that is.

931
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: He like, look at that part right there. You read

932
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: that part. I'm gonna read this part. What three four

933
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: in the morning. Bro, he didn't play drums. Now, somehow, somehow,

934
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm his co star in this movie that will become

935
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: baby Boy. Wow. And I'm reading lines back from it

936
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: and I don't remember the lines. I think I'm probably

937
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: Omar Gooding. Part might be being ranked. But I see

938
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: what you motherfucker. But he but he's like, he's not.

939
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: He's like, no, j J. Just read those parts. I'm

940
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: gonna readmind back. And I'm watching him transform into Jody

941
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, this nigga can act. Yeah.

942
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it to him, yeah, but I'm thinking

943
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm like, damn, bro, like this nigga

944
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: just handing me the stack of papers that with all

945
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, I said, you know, we'll become a script.

946
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: And he's he going through the ship and he go

947
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: full South Central La. You know what I mean, Twist

948
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 1: the voice a little bit. Everything is a little a little,

949
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: a little extra out. I'm like, damn, this is cool man,

950
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: this nigga. Really he got some other ship that he's

951
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: that's brewing. John Single John that just came to my

952
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: house probably two days before you came and made me

953
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: read the Baby Boys script cover the cover. I had

954
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: been running from John Singleton Rest in Peace for like

955
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: six years. I remember I used to host on HIMTV,

956
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: MTV Jams Compdown so John everywhere I went, and ice

957
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: Cube can tell this story everybody John has ever pursued,

958
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that the sound facetious or be facetious.

959
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: He pursued me as an actor and would not let

960
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: up until I finally did a film. So he actually

961
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: wanted me to do Shaft and that role that Busta

962
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: Rhymes had in the film was something that he wanted

963
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: me to do and I told him no because I

964
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: was so on a music high that I had been

965
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: chasing for I don't know three four years. Whoever it was,

966
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine myself being on the movie set and

967
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: as corny and as crazy as this sound. I didn't

968
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: want none of my homies to say I went Hollywood

969
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: and the movie would be Hollywood. The movie would be Hollywood.

970
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: But now that I know what I know about the phrase,

971
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: which is stupid as hell, like it cost this this, this,

972
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 1: this twist in this word cost me so many opportunities

973
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: and so much money. Have no idea that nigga Hollywood.

974
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: That's what I never wanted them to say about. But

975
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: being Hollywood or going Hollywood, it's not because it's an

976
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: acting choice. It's a personality type. When your nose is

977
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: up in the air, you think you too boogie, fancy,

978
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: too rich. You I can all arrogant, stuck up stand

979
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: office and this and that. Now you Oh nigga, you change.

980
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,479
Speaker 1: You can do that anywhere any But that's what I'm saying.

981
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: It's a general hood words. Yeah, in the phrase that's

982
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: been thrown out there forever people back. Yeah, oh nigga,

983
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: you changed has killed many careers. Yeah, that nigga went Hollywood,

984
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: he acting brand new has killed many careers. So you

985
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: end up getting away from every dream, all the shit

986
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: that keeps you up at night. You get away from

987
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: it because you're so concerned about your homies, thinking that

988
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna change on them. And then I don't. At

989
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: forty four years old, I could say, you fucking right,

990
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change got them right, you fucking right? You know.

991
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: And so if you think of me as Hollywood, I

992
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: got ten billion in box office on my name, So

993
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm not Hollywood meaning personality. All my real ones. Love

994
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: is love. Um, but I not want to do movies

995
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: after John chased me for six some years because I

996
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: was afraid of homies in the hood. I grew up

997
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: with saying you changed and you in Hollywood. Wow, And

998
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: imagine that tea. Imagine missing a classic shaft, shaft baby boy. Yeah, yeah,

999
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, because you've already missed you already, But you

1000
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: have been running from them, yeah for that long. Yeah,

1001
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: And something as you go into you know, the chosen

1002
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: speech or the divine always finding a way to make

1003
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: sure you get what you need for the journey. Yeah,

1004
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what made me do the movie. Um,

1005
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't me. No cool running lines with you did

1006
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: not get me further than to suck up your whole.

1007
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: I know you want to be able to say, as

1008
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: the light spanned man with the base milk cream sugar

1009
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: sweater with the stripes. I want you to be able

1010
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: to if it wasn't for me, because he just he

1011
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: just but the baby boys not included with me. No,

1012
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you what happened. John Singleton said

1013
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,959
Speaker 1: to me that he wrote the movie for Tupac. Tupac

1014
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: was supposed to be Jody, and he literally wrote that

1015
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: movie with Pac in mind because they had already done

1016
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: a couple of things poetic justice blah blah blah. So

1017
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: when Poc got killed in ninety six, he basically it

1018
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,560
Speaker 1: was never announced, He was never in pre production. It

1019
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: was just something that he was writing with Tupac in

1020
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: mine and and so yeah, when he when he got

1021
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,560
Speaker 1: killed in Vegas, John was depressed for years because that

1022
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: was his best friend, um soul mate. You know, they

1023
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: just they just linked and clicked up. You know. John

1024
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: was always a super weirdo, but he a hood nigga,

1025
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: and he just he loved who he loved, and he

1026
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: loved me. He loved Pock, he loved Cube and blah

1027
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: blah blah. So yeah, when he told me the story

1028
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 1: about the fact that he wrote this movie for a

1029
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: Tupac and he has not met anyone before me, that

1030
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: reminds He's like these his words, not mine. You remind

1031
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: me of Poc. You loud, you're funny, your alpha, you know,

1032
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: you got all and then you was raised by your mama.

1033
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: You know, no father in the house. A Phoenie Shakor

1034
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: raised pot. So he was making all these connections to

1035
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: Poc to me and he said, you remind me of Poc.

1036
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: You vocal, you outspoken, You're not afraid of no controversy, politics, life, love, spirituality.

1037
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: You know. I wasn't book studied like Pock. But he said,

1038
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: you remind me of Pock. I'm not talking about rapping

1039
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: about just as an overall energy. And when he said

1040
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 1: that to me, that fucked me up and it created

1041
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 1: it created a feeling in me that was never there

1042
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: from just him chasing me to be a movie star.

1043
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't interested in that. I was out here getting

1044
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: some some real sweet lady vaginal activity. I was the

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Speaker 1: vaginal activity was cracking, and I wanted no parts of

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Speaker 1: hitting the pause button on this level of juice that

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Speaker 1: was flowing. Okay, that's real shit, listen. I was very

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Speaker 1: happy that I wasn't heavily associated to the church, you know,

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Speaker 1: because there was there was nobody able to play on

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Speaker 1: me and say, oh, look at them, he's singing in

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01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 1: the church. Now he I his single devil music with

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Speaker 1: all these groups around you know, shit the tankers dealt

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Speaker 1: with that wasn't my story. So I was never heavily

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Speaker 1: associated to anything like what groupies are you? I've always

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Speaker 1: been an upstanding church, uh, sir? Remember of church, sir,

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Speaker 1: you're not only not only were you born and raised

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Speaker 1: in the church, but you're also preach a PK. You

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Speaker 1: your pastor's kid. Um, so you're all the way grandkid, yeah,

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Speaker 1: pkk um. Okay, So okay, so grandfather, my grandfather, I'm

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Speaker 1: ak my grandmother, Oh praise God. Yeah, I'm playing my grandfather,

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Speaker 1: Mary Jean Giles. My grandfather was a pastor, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we're one of the same. Yeah. Yeah, my grandfather rest

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Speaker 1: in peace. Name was Reverend Ellis. Yeah okay. The woman

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Speaker 1: he got pregnant name was Bobby Gibson. And back in

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Speaker 1: the day, back in that era, if you ever got

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01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: had a child when you wasn't married, then the child

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: would automatically get the woman's last name. So my grandfather Ellis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you'd have been Tyrese Ellis, you'd have been able

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01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: to hoop. Ellis is a great people last name. Just

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Speaker 1: the arms right there, No, no, sir. So my grandfather

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01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: had a major church in Saint Louis, Reverend Ellis. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know, just like you man, we love speaking,

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Speaker 1: we love pouring spirituality, putting our motivational inspirational out there,

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Speaker 1: pouring pouring into people. We love pouring in. It is

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Speaker 1: a natural thing for us to want to help an

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01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: uplift and build. I got five thousand videos all over

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Speaker 1: YouTube with my motivational inspirational stuff because I first of all,

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01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: I want people to know I've never said this publicly.

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01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: I want people to know that I do carry a

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:10,799
Speaker 1: particular level of guilt about being this successful. It wears

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01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: on me. And so my way of giving it all

1082
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: away is to write the longest captions and to post

1083
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: and put up my inspirational videos and do interviews where

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01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: I'm talking and pouring. Because there is somebody who wanted

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01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: to commit suicide before they've seen this interview that we're

1086
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: doing right now, and if you understand the responsibility of

1087
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: the stage and the platform not just on some groupie

1088
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: and fun and bling bling and what you're driving or

1089
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,440
Speaker 1: what you're living in. As we all know, multi millionaires

1090
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: killed themselves every day. People that got the biggest homes

1091
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: and private planes, they killed themselves every day, Which means

1092
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: that you may be broke and feel like if I

1093
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: had money, then maybe these suicide thoughts wouldn't be there.

1094
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: Suicide thoughts will still follow you into your bigger net worth.

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01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: So for us to have the stage, in the platform

1096
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: and the voice and not use it to benefit people

1097
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: who believe in us and don't believe in Jesus, talk

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01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: about it. There's people out here who don't have no

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01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: nothing that they've tapped into. And the fact that I

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01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: continue posting about the goodness of the Lord Jesus Christ,

1101
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: and I say the Lord Jesus Christ is my Lord

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01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: and savior. There is no such thing as inhaling and

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01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: exhaling without God. The fact that I'm even sitting here

1104
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: to talk about anything that's ever been achieved and done

1105
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: is because these are the things that God had in

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01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: mind for me and had in mind for y'all. And

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01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 1: who are you to be threatened and insecure and intimidated

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: about what somebody else have when I didn't even think

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01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: I would ever have it for myself. So I do

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: carry a particular level of guilt, which is why I

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01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: always go out of my way to give it all away.

1112
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: Now what I say and how often I say it

1113
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: may not work for people for something, and that's fine,

1114
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: but guess what you may be eyed in your life.

1115
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: So all its rambling and long ass capturing all this

1116
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: motivations you got going on that ain't for me. I'd

1117
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: rather go listen to jay Z or go listen to

1118
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: somebody else. Go listen to Kanye, Go listen to somebody

1119
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 1: else talk about whatever it is they're talking about. So

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Speaker 1: that's the beauty of social media unfollowed. But as far

1121
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,879
Speaker 1: as you following me, I just need you'll to understand

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01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of friends. These are my

1123
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: closest friends sitting right here, and I don't see you

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01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: all that often, and we live up the street from

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01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: each other. Because I don't necessarily want people around me

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: like that. So my way of feeling like I'm giving

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01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 1: it all away and I'm returning the love and feeling

1128
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: the pressure of success. You becoming successful. It's not going

1129
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: to be because you see me pull up in the

1130
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: rolls Royce. I have a responsibility to give people the

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: information and the details of what I did and how

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: I went about it in order for them to go, oh, man,

1133
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 1: that's how you got it. Don't be inspired by the

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: nigga with the shiny building. Be inspired by the man

1135
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: that's willing to tell you the details of how we

1136
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: got the shiny building, because it's not lonely at the top.

1137
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: If you help somebody else get there so long before

1138
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: I even got on. That's who I am. That's always

1139
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: who I've been. The reason my phone rings and people

1140
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: want to have those conversations with the gun in their hand,

1141
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 1: and we've all gotten that call from somebody at some point.

1142
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: I don't know why God trusted you to call me

1143
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: in this moment, but I first want to tell you

1144
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: I thank God for you just being willing to call me,

1145
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: to tell me that this is what's on your mind

1146
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: and we're gonna figure it out and it happens. So

1147
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: I just want y'all to know, like, yeah, singing is cool.

1148
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: Being a movie star is cool. But I feel like

1149
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: that's a gateway into what God is using me for.

1150
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: And and some of my messages, some of my approaches

1151
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: to the message may make you feel a way, it

1152
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: might be uncomfortable. You might though he's trolling. Oh, he's

1153
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: so annoying, he's cringe word. I've seen it all in

1154
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: my comments. But it hasn't stopped me from pouring into

1155
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: people because you never know who, when, where, and why

1156
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: someone needed that message at that very moment. Not as

1157
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: a pastor, how as a prophet, not as someone at

1158
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: the pool pit. Just me understanding my stage or my

1159
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: platform and wanting to build anybody who's willing to let

1160
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: me build them up. That's why I do it. And

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01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: even the way we got into this conversation, you know,

1162
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: vaginal activity, Yes, they deserve untreated wood. Yeah, going back.

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01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's a great segue though, because we were

1164
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: talking about I like them girls going back, So you

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01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: I want to say this before he went TD Jackson

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01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: t jas um, you know, and and this is no disrespect, um, no,

1167
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: no disrespect to Tupacs your core. Um. He's he's he's um,

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01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely amazing, phenomenal human being. You were perfect

1169
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: for that movie. I was perfect for because Park never

1170
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 1: got a chance to do it. I can't speak to that.

1171
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: What I can speak to is this, this movie, this role.

1172
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: You were so great and so I hate to use

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01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: the word perfect, but I mean why not. He was

1174
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: so perfect in that in in that role and in

1175
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 1: that movie that no matter what you do, you will

1176
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: never be able to shed that ever, no what I

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01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: ever tried, you will always be a part of for sure,

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01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: no matter what they see. Baby, And you're gonna have Listen,

1179
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have fastest and furiousnesses and transformers and everything

1180
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: else that you're going into parmacists pharmacists and and full

1181
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: brothers wasting black and black like you're gonna You're you're

1182
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: gonna have successes, you know, continue to have successes beyond

1183
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: your wildest dreams, right based in based on your disbelief.

1184
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: But that thing right there, that starting point right there,

1185
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: What a building block, What a foundational block to have

1186
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: your building standing on that great Now, I have I

1187
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: have a question. Okay, thank you the girls, Let's hold out.

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01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: That's the start of part two. Okay, okay, all right,

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01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: I just have a question. I have a question. You

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01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: can turn into Robert Please, you know what, don't you

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01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:29,439
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