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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio network as well. A few more headlines that I'm

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Speaker 1: quick update where we are in the war. I think

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Speaker 1: it is how kind of open everybody is about the

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Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal opens with an anecdote of Chris Murphy,

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Speaker 1: of progressive activists who's you know, they're having this dinner

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Speaker 1: and they're saying okay, and they're basically pushing Murphy, and

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Speaker 1: the progressive side of things, and they're pushing Murphy. We

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Speaker 1: got to deal with the elephant in the room. What

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Speaker 1: about you know, we got to got to get rid

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Speaker 1: of Chuck Schumer and what surprised apparently folks at that dinner,

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Speaker 1: and of course what leaked out. And then Murphy basically

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Speaker 1: Schumer the person. For what it's worth, what he said was, well, look,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of us have essentially done some vote counting,

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Speaker 1: and the votes aren't there to get rid of Schumer,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't surprise me, and you're certainly not going to

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Speaker 1: see this in an election year. But what you're darting

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Speaker 1: about openly, like there's a pressure campaign to get him

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Speaker 1: accept the premise that this is his last year's leader.

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Speaker 1: They seem to be hoping against hope that he will

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Speaker 1: decide not to seek real announce that he's not going

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Speaker 1: to seek reelection in twenty eight and that he will

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Speaker 1: not stand in essentially just like Mitch McConnell did, right,

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell decided not to seek reelection in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four, allowing new leadership to take over,

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Speaker 1: and he would essentially be there as the as a,

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Speaker 1: as a, as a godfather at emeritis of sorts. I

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Speaker 1: allow with Nancy Pelosi, although she apparently you know, she's

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Speaker 1: been there a few cycles, but essentially similar to how

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Speaker 1: Pelosi handed over the reins to Jeffreys, on that front,

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Speaker 1: we've had smoother transitions there than we did, of course,

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Speaker 1: with what the House Republicans have done. What look, I

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Speaker 1: think what makes this story amazing, Number one is how

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Speaker 1: public everything is. And when this leaked out, Murphy certainly

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Speaker 1: seemed to admit that they've done some nose counts right,

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Speaker 1: and he's on the side. You've got Elizabeth Warren. What

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Speaker 1: this piece did was clarified who's behind the it's time

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Speaker 1: for Schumer to go. So it appears to be Chris Murphy,

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Speaker 1: appears to be Elizabeth Warren, appears to be retiring Senator

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Speaker 1: Tina Smith from Minnesota. That mildly surprised me that she

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Speaker 1: was a part of this. Then you have folks that

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Speaker 1: are sort of in the category of they don't want

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Speaker 1: to tick Schumer off, but they want to be there

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Speaker 1: ready to replace him. Right, Brian Shatz is in that column,

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Speaker 1: And in fact, it looks like Shatz has played his

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Speaker 1: cards so well that according to this piece, Schumer or

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Speaker 1: Schumer's allies are, you know, if they have a say

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Speaker 1: and who replaces him, they'd like to see Shatz. That

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Speaker 1: might be a kiss of death. But Schatz went out

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Speaker 1: on a limb and went ahead and defended Schumer, and

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Speaker 1: he said Chuck's got broad and deep support, even as

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Speaker 1: detractors would have to admit that we have an extraordinary

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Speaker 1: class of candidates for the Senate and that wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: happened without him. He's referring to Roy Cooper, He's referring

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Speaker 1: to Janet Mills, but one could argue that in three

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Speaker 1: of the most important and Mary Patola in Alaska. And

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Speaker 1: I think he does. He seemed to be on the

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Speaker 1: side of those consultant worlds that was trying to get

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Speaker 1: Taller Rico in there. But they're these huge primaries. There's

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Speaker 1: basically one faction in the Senate wanting to see the

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Speaker 1: grand Platners of the world win, wanting to see a

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Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of Zach Walls win in Iowa

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Speaker 1: instead of Schumer's pick of Josh Turek. And of course

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Speaker 1: you have the Michigan primary that is a three way

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Speaker 1: race between sort of strongest lablishment, one that straddles progressive

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Speaker 1: and establishment, and one that is super progressive. And you

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Speaker 1: do have a group of Senators that are basically running

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Speaker 1: against Schumer's candidates and endorsing whoever Schumer's not for they

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Speaker 1: seem to be endorsing and vice versa on that front.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that this went public and apparently one

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Speaker 1: of the beefs and I got to share with you

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Speaker 1: this one anecdote because the story itself and the way

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Speaker 1: Schumer responds to the story in this Wall Street Journal piece,

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Speaker 1: I think is a tell that he is both slightly

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Speaker 1: probably going to fight and is not going to roll

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Speaker 1: over here. But we shall see, oh one other This

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Speaker 1: was really telling, according to the Wall Street Journal story

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Speaker 1: about Sumer, and Schumer agreed to do an interview with

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Speaker 1: here almost as a way to sort of pushback on

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Speaker 1: this narrative that he was two week to lead. The

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Speaker 1: journal points out a number of Democratic senators provided the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal with interviews or statements in support of

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Speaker 1: the leader. They included Shats Catherine Cortes, Masto, Sheldon Whitehouse,

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Speaker 1: Kirsten Jillibrand she's the current DFCC chair, Chris Coons, and

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Speaker 1: Tim Kane. Right, those are sort of everybody's been there

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Speaker 1: essentially more than a term. When you look at these

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Speaker 1: it would be more of the establishment types, more that

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Speaker 1: have always run more center left campaigns, Catherine Cortez, all

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Speaker 1: of these folks. You know, I'm old enough to remember

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Speaker 1: when Kirston Jilli Brand represented an upstate New York seat

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Speaker 1: straddled that fence as well. So it's notable who would

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Speaker 1: notable who chose not to do that, right, You didn't

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Speaker 1: see some others because there's quite a few senators. What

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Speaker 1: Tumor's problem is, he is he seems to be at

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Speaker 1: that moment where he's so paranoid of leaks and he

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Speaker 1: in fact, they share an anecdote. And I'm going to

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Speaker 1: amazing Trump esque Chuck Schumer moment. So here it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm going straight from the article here. Tensions among Senate

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Speaker 1: Democrats over Schumer style reached a tipping point during the

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Speaker 1: lengthy government shutdown last fall. In a closed door meeting

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Speaker 1: with top Senate Democrats the day after the parties November

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Speaker 1: election wins. You'll remember, right, we're in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the shutdown. Democrats have a huge November twenty twenty five, right,

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Speaker 1: double digg victories in Virginia, New Jersey just killed it everywhere. Right,

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Speaker 1: The mood wasn't celebratory in this closed door meeting with

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Speaker 1: top Senate Democrats. Why Senators Jeff Merkley and Maggie Hassen

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Speaker 1: They believe the election was a chance to essentially double down.

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Speaker 1: When Senator Gary Peters, who's the retiring senator from Michigan,

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Speaker 1: that's the big Michigan primary is the open seat that

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Speaker 1: is trying to replace him, he stepped into note that

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Speaker 1: a breakaway group of Democrats had already initiated a quote

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Speaker 1: secret deal with Republicans to end the shutdown. This was

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Speaker 1: according to people in the meeting. Apparently. Elizabeth Warren then replies,

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Speaker 1: who's also in this meeting with Merkley and Hassen. Wait,

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Speaker 1: they didn't negotiate anything. And then she apparently turns to Schumer,

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Speaker 1: and Elizabeth Warren says, Chuck, you told me no one

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Speaker 1: was negotiating. Then the leader of this breakaway centrist group

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Speaker 1: of Democrats that did negotiate with the Republicans Jeanie Shaheen, who,

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Speaker 1: of course she's retiring from the New Hampshire open seat.

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Speaker 1: She responds that they had kept the leader, meaning Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 1: a breast of the developments. Warren, one of the Senate

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the folks on the side of

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Speaker 1: fighting much harder here and has been pretty critical of Schumer, responded, well,

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Speaker 1: that's not what Chuck told me. And then Murkley admits

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Speaker 1: shock when he heard that this group was going to

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Speaker 1: strike a deal. He goes, it was all news to him.

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Speaker 1: Now they eventually have a all Democratic senator meeting, and

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Speaker 1: Merkley said he thought eventually Schumer heard him, but it

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Speaker 1: was clear that Schumer wasn't telling everybody what was happening

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Speaker 1: with right and the incident, as the Journal points out,

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Speaker 1: was seen as a quote prime example of the leader

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Speaker 1: trying to appease all sides by telling senators what they

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Speaker 1: staffer are calling it getting shumed, meaning they thought they

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Schumer's working

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Speaker 1: with some other entity, has a deal. Stories over. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I've been shoomed. Right now. Here's my favorite

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Speaker 1: part of this article. And again, maybe you have to

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Speaker 1: be me covering Schumer for nearly thirty years to appreciate

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Speaker 1: this moment. But any of you, and I know a

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Speaker 1: and I think you will. Guys will laugh at this

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Speaker 1: due Schumer is you know again he does this interview

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Speaker 1: with the Journal, Schumer said he wasn't familiar with the

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Speaker 1: current usage of the term getting shoomed. But then Schumer

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Speaker 1: offers up to the journal reporters the following anecdote. He said,

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Speaker 1: to refer to Schumer's rush to be the first to

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Speaker 1: issue to reporters, says Schumer. To the reporters, I would

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Speaker 1: be ahead of everybody else. Someone would be thinking of something,

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Speaker 1: but I'd be out there with a press conference. I

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Speaker 1: understand what Schumer was up to, right, But if you

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Speaker 1: want to this is like to me, this is the moment.

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Speaker 1: This is sometimes you got to understand subtext when you

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Speaker 1: read these stories. Look the reporters are they include this

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Speaker 1: anecdote in here for obvious reasons. They're like going, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is not fully plugged in to what people really

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Speaker 1: think of him in the Senate. He is got there

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Speaker 1: is a loss of trust, and he is sort of

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Speaker 1: in his own bubble here, right, And there's still a

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Speaker 1: lack of self awareness. Even in this piece you offer

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Speaker 1: up an alternative definition of getting shumed because he it's

644
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: very trump esque, right. Let me tell you when it

645
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: was a positive? Is that what this piece is about

646
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: at the moment? Really, Oh, that you're really smart about

647
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: getting out in front of some viral issue just as

648
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: it's going viral, so it looks like you're on top

649
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: of things. These are these famous Sunday press conferences back

650
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: when Schumer was a back bench House member then a

651
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Speaker 1: back bench senator, and this is the you know, this

652
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: is the part of Schumer when he had his fastball.

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Speaker 1: And I think now it's clear he is absolutely constantly

654
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: nervous about you know, he's looking over his left shoulder

655
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: at AOC. He's looking over his shoulder apparently now at

656
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: Chris van Holland and Brian Shatz, and you know, now

657
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: he's orchestrated. He's hoping to at least and here'd be

658
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Speaker 1: my message to Senator Schumer and anybody that wants to

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Speaker 1: talk to him and to say look, you've been an

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Speaker 1: incredibly successful Democratic leader. He really has. You know, he

661
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: is a he is not a policy guy. He's a

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00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: politics guy. And he you know, starting with two thousand

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00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: and six, frankly, starting with his own politics. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he out maneuvered and outsmart at everybody in his ninety

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00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: eight Senate race. You know, he won that race by

666
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Speaker 1: basically being the only guy to campaign in Buffalo before

667
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: anybody else was doing it, and then worked his way down.

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00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: It was brilliant strategy. Sort of was the first to

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Speaker 1: come up with the ten second ad before ten second

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Speaker 1: ads were harder to make happen. But he stretched his money.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, is it is like watching Willie Mays

672
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: play with the Mets. You're like, I don't want to

673
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: see him field flyballs, right, you don't want to see it, right,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to see Mickey Mantle strike out. And

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Speaker 1: I think that Schumer is at this moment where he's

676
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Speaker 1: just look, part of it is there's nothing he can

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Speaker 1: do about it. He is sort of the last dem

678
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Speaker 1: standing from the previous era, right, so he is the

679
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: stand in for Biden. Frustrations about Biden. He's the stand

680
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: in for Clinton frustrations about Clinton. Right, he's just the

681
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: stand in for the establishment because he's the most familiar

682
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: face left. So some of this is not about him

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Speaker 1: and his decision making. Some of this is just simply

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00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: it's about that wing of the party, right, the sort

685
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Speaker 1: of what you want to call it, the pragmatic wing.

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Speaker 1: But if he cares about trying, and look, he has

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00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: a theory of the case, right, he has a theory

688
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Speaker 1: of the case. And the type of candidates he nominates,

689
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: he's you know, and who he's encouraging to run. Right,

690
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: he wants a Josh Turreck to be the nominee in

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Speaker 1: Iowa rather than is Zach Wall. Zach Walls is a

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Speaker 1: bit more progressive. I think you can make the case.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting the NRSC and Republicans want the progressive

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Speaker 1: to win too. They're all excited about that. And you know,

695
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: Schumer's touting another candidate. Now, progressive activists get frustrated that

696
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Speaker 1: he wants to put his thumb on the scale in

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Speaker 1: the primary. Well, guess what, so does Bernie Sanders want

698
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Speaker 1: to put his thumb on the scale in the primary.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you know, people that get upset that

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Speaker 1: somebody's playing favorites are really upset that they're not the

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00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: ones being favored, if that makes sense, Meaning most people

702
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: complain that they're not getting the extra help or the

703
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: extra attention, they're actually not arguing for fairness. But let's

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Speaker 1: set that aside. If Schumer cares about that wing of

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Speaker 1: the party, he cannot be seen as essentially fighting the

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Speaker 1: progressives and then losing the best way for him to

707
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: beat the Progressives is to stand down and hand and

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00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: then he has more say and who replaces him and

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00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: he might be able to preserve. You know, it's sort

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Speaker 1: of like McConnell, you know, had he pushed the envelope

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Speaker 1: more than he risked losing to a Rick Scott and

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Speaker 1: then suddenly that wing of the party is running the

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Speaker 1: Senate Republican Conference instead he put himself in it. He

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00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: got out just in time where he knew essentially he

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Speaker 1: can hand the reins over to Jonathan. And that's the

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Speaker 1: situation Schumer's in right now. He's got to make and

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Speaker 1: this is not going to be easy for him. Schumer

718
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: has had success charting his own path, and he has

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Speaker 1: kind of at times bulldozed his way, and he has

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Speaker 1: overcome skepticism whether it's from mainstream media, Washington, the Midwest,

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Speaker 1: you name it. You know, you talk to a Claire

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00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: mccaskell or John Tester and they will tell you Schumer

723
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: always understood their electorates almost as well as they did.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he in this stuff. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to use this as a way to beat up

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Speaker 1: on Schumer, but it is pretty clear it is he

727
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: has passed. It is it is time to move on.

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Speaker 1: And if he wants more say in how this works

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Speaker 1: and if he wants to control this process, he probably

730
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Speaker 1: only has a couple more months before he sort of

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00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: loses that ability to do it. And I think I

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Speaker 1: think every you could sort of see, you know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I mean it would be a fool's air. And if

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Speaker 1: somebody tried to overthrow Schumer, now there's really not a

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Speaker 1: mechanism the way the Senate works and it and it

736
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: would blow up in their face. But it is clear

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Speaker 1: that you have a chunk of senators worried that Schumer's

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Speaker 1: waiting to see that if they get the majority, he's

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00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: going to want it. And that's where this You know,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to begin. The last thing you want

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00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: to do if you're the Democrats is right. Now there

742
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: is a bunch of infighting. Well in some ways, let

743
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: the infighting happen now, because if you're infighting after the elections,

744
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: after you succeed, then it looks worse. Take Abigail Spamberger, right,

745
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: she is starting in I think this has been a

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00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: nightmare way for her to start. She tried, she's there's

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Speaker 1: an interview on the Washington Post this week. You know,

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Speaker 1: she ran as a bit you know, said basically like, look,

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Speaker 1: she's a Democrat, but if she went a partisan right,

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Speaker 1: that was the vibe she gave off that she was

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Speaker 1: a pragmatist. And yet what does she have to do.

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00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: She starts her gubernatorial term and she only gets one

753
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: to make the most political fight any governor would have

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00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: to do, which is this which is pushed for this

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00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: ridiculous redistricting amendment. And I say it's ridiculous because it

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00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: runs counter to everything Abigail Spaanburger stands for. Right. The

757
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: original concept was fairness and maps to take politics out

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Speaker 1: of things. That is the Abigail Spamburger platform, if you will,

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00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: that she ran on. It's been sort of her political

760
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: identity from the very beginning when she ran for Congress,

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00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: and she's having to make the case, just like watching

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama use his political capital to sell what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: that this is a way to make it more fair

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00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: compared to Texas, leaving out the part that it makes

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00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: it incredibly unfair essentially to all voters in Virginia. Right,

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Speaker 1: there is no good argument you can come up with

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00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: to me to give me to say that this is

768
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: a good idea, because I would argue, you actually want

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Speaker 1: if Republicans win competitive districts, then you're more likely to

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Speaker 1: have a Republican who's more likely to buck the crazy

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Speaker 1: Maga wing, and it actually is healthier for democracy if

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Speaker 1: you have it in that way. So the point being,

773
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Speaker 1: as fair districts will get you a better quality member

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Speaker 1: of Congress. Period. When you have unfair districts that are

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00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: overly partisan, then you get partisan hacks, whether they're on

776
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: the left or the right, because all you have to

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00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: worry about is winning a primary. And then you have

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00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: this absurdity where you know, literally you know Don Bayer

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Speaker 1: is currently my congressman, and the new map you will

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Speaker 1: not be because Arlington is going to get divided into

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Speaker 1: two and essentially South Arlington is going to be in

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Speaker 1: Buyer's district, and it's going to go all the way

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Speaker 1: to the Northern Neck, Okay, which is sort of on

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Speaker 1: the where the Bay Chesapeake Bay and Atlantic Ocean and

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00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: the and the Northern Neck and the River down they

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00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: are all sort of come in the one as you

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Speaker 1: can see. I'm not that familiar with that area. I've

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Speaker 1: been there a few times. It is uh, if it

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00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: were a slightly shorter drive, that would be an ideal

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00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: place to have a vacation home. And I know some

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00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: people who do. It's it's it's I've chosen to I've

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00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: chosen the state of Florida for mine. But it is

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00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: a great place. I remember why Off and I looked

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00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: out there. We enjoyed it, we liked it a lot.

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00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: But it is almost nothing in common with Arlington, and

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00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: yet those communities are all going to be in the

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00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: same district. You know. It's basically Virginia is going to

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Speaker 1: turn into this weird sort of I guess you could

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Speaker 1: call it like a half octopus, where the body is

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Speaker 1: all northern Virginia and then all of the districts, you know,

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00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: a tentacle, a tentacle to the west, a tentnical to

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00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: the southwest, a technical d South, et cetera, et cetera.

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00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: And then and then there's this blob you know that

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00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: will be the one Republican district. It's probably going to pass,

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00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: but I don't think this is going to pass like California.

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00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: And you could just hear Spamberger in this interview, and

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Speaker 1: you know, she's you know, she has been pushing back

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00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: on the Democratic legislature on some business taxes and some

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00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: things like that. So she's still trying to sort of

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Speaker 1: keep her pro business credentials, which in you know, sort

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Speaker 1: of basically in line with what Tim how Tim Kane

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Speaker 1: was as governor at Mark Warner was his governor of

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Speaker 1: Terry mcauiffe. Like it's it's not unique, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Democratic governors of the twenty first century in Virginia have

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Speaker 1: all been have all all wanted to make sure they

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Speaker 1: Virginia stays in the top five places to do business

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Speaker 1: in the CNBC rankings, which they have for pretty much

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Speaker 1: all of the twenty first century. So but she's she

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Speaker 1: is now having to be the face of the Her

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Speaker 1: and Barack Obama are having to be the face of

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Speaker 1: this ad campaign for redistricting, and you know, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this. I like I said, I think they went.

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Speaker 1: But I think the Democrats are giving up something here

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Speaker 1: that they're going to wish they have backed. And I

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Speaker 1: do think one reminder I'm going to leave you with,

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Speaker 1: and then we're going to go to my conversation with

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Speaker 1: Johnny O. The base of the Republican Party is larger

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Speaker 1: than the base of the Democratic Party. And what does

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Speaker 1: that mean? Democrats need more moderates to get to fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: The good news for Democrats is a majority of moderates

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Speaker 1: lean left on some social issues and they want they're

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Speaker 1: more uncomfortable siding with the Republicans and the Democrats liberal

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Speaker 1: modern conservative. This is what I'm referring to when I say,

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Speaker 1: when you have the idea outpolling, ideological service. But those

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Speaker 1: moderates sort of like actually believe you know, they've been

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Speaker 1: siding with the Democrats because they're the pragmatic ones, they're

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Speaker 1: the normal ones. If they start behaving, no, you know,

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00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: ends justifies the means type of politics. I think the

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00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: Democrats are endangering that part of their brand right now. Look,

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00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: they're using two people who I think plenty of people

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00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: in the center politically in this country, see as pragmatists

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00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: Barack Obama, Abagail Spamberg. But they're advocating for something that's

843
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: frankly indefensible, and it just is going to chip away.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen overnight. But you know, Democrats have to

845
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: realize they're thirty to zero in the special election. Things

846
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: are going great for them on paper. They're on track

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Speaker 1: to win the House with a decent majority, and frankly,

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Speaker 1: it's probably getting close to a coin flip for Senate

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Speaker 1: control because I also believe Lisa Murkowski, if it's fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifty, she's going to flip. And again, I have

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00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: no other evidence. I'm not you know, I have no

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00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: inside knowledge in this. I'm just that's a tea leaf. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I am reading a tea leaf incredibly carefully in this one.

854
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty confident of it. Especially if Mary Ptello

855
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: wins that sentencing, I think it's a get. If that's it,

856
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: it's almost a given. Denmarkowski hands the Democrats the Senate

857
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: majority couldn't be going swimmingly. And yet what did we

858
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: see in that Marquette polarlier this week? The Democratic brand

859
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: had a lower favorable rating than the Republican Party and mega.

860
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: So that's you know, and this that bill will come

861
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: due in twenty eight if they're not careful. But how

862
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: twenty six goes, how they govern, how they resolve these

863
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: internal fights, how messy does this get? Right? All of

864
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: this is going to be determined. I think in the

865
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 1: next three to six months. All Right, we're gonna sneak

866
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: in a break and when we come back, my conversation

867
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: with Johnny oh and what could be the twenty eighth

868
00:52:50,120 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: Amendment to the US Constitution. Hey, it's the weekend. It's

869
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: time to turn to the Chuck Todd sports page here,

870
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: if you will, And I want to start with a

871
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: modest proposal for the NCAA basketball tournament. And by the way,

872
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: this applies to men and women when I'm about to

873
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: propose here, But it is more of a reaction to

874
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: the results of the men's tournament. Right, there's a big

875
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: let's call it what it is. There's kind of a

876
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: disappointment that there are no right that it's all major

877
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: conference teams that are left. There's no mid major Cinderella.

878
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: We have no FA Florida Atlantic, no George Mason, no

879
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: Saint Peter's frankly not even a Gonzaga, although they were

880
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: a three seed, but still, you know, they're kind of

881
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: at least from a non power four and a half conference,

882
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: I say four and a half. I'm gonna put the

883
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: Big East in the power side of the conferences, but

884
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear that Saint John's and you

885
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: Connor like power schools, and I think, well, you know,

886
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: and we know Villanova aspires to be, Georgetown aspires to

887
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: be you know it is. Let's just say the Big

888
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: East basketball now reminds me of where Big East football

889
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: was right before Miami left for the ACCI. I could argue,

890
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: as a GW guy and an A ten advocate, that

891
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: the Big East is closer to catch the Big East

892
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: is closer to be the A ten than it is

893
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: to catching what would be the fourth best conference this year.

894
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: I guess you would put it. I guess you would

895
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: say the number four conference was the ACC given the

896
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: results of the of the tournament, right, I think the

897
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Big East is closer to the A ten than it

898
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: is to the ACCI. If you're asking, I think i'd

899
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: go Big ten, Big twelve, SEC A c C. This

900
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: year just just sort of in your power order of

901
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: the of the of the conferences in college basketball. But

902
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: there's a huge disappointment, right, there's just it's all power

903
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: four schools right that dark horses are like Iowa Nebraska.

904
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: We're in eleven seeded Texas that was seen as a

905
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: top ten twenty school earlier this year. And I think

906
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: there's always been this conundrum about the NCAA tournament in

907
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: that we love upsets in the first round, and the

908
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: last thing we want to see are these schools actually

909
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: in the final four. We think we do, but once

910
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: they appear in the final four, nobody watches these games,

911
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: right when Butler or Mason or gonzaie And it's not

912
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: like Florida Atlantic. They've not been ratings juggernauts. Right. What

913
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: we want is we want them to get almost there.

914
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: We want them to get to that. We love them

915
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: in the sweet sixteen, we like them in the eight,

916
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: and then we want Duke playing Yukon in the final,

917
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: right or you know, fill in your top tier score

918
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: so you know me, I don't want to sit here

919
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: and just identify problems, whether it's in our politics or

920
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: in our sports fandom. I am year to propose solutions

921
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: and have I got a solution for you, and I'm

922
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: going to begin telling you my bias. I went to GW,

923
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: So in this case, my bias is for the mid majors,

924
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna explain why it's good for everybody involved.

925
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: When GW made the Sweet sixteen in ninety three, I

926
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: know for some of you maybe listening to this podcast,

927
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: weren't born then, do you know what happened to applications

928
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: the following year? They're like it went up like fifty percent.

929
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: And GW went to the NCAA Tournament seven out of

930
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: ten years in the nineties, and just making the NCAA

931
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: tournament one Sweet sixteen appearance a couple around to thirty

932
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: two's consistently playing big time school. So they were suddenly

933
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: they were in the mix and they were in the conversation,

934
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: and it had huge implications for GW's status as a

935
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: top tier university. One could argue that GW, which is

936
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: now an AAU school, are one university important distinction in

937
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: the in the world of academics. They they wouldn't have

938
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: gotten there without that investment in the basketball program. And

939
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: and there are stories like this all around the country.

940
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 1: Shoot this happens even with the power for School Universe

941
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: to Miami, applications have gone through the roof since Miami

942
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: made it to the n C Double A title in football,

943
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: Georgia and Clemson. The current president in gw Ellen Grandberg.

944
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of I just think she has

945
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: brought an energy to the place that that that that

946
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: that that is that I'm just I haven't felt it

947
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: like this since the Tractenburg days, for those of you

948
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: that really know GW's politics. So I'm a huge I'm

949
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: really supportive of her. I'm really rooting for. She tells

950
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: a great story about she was the provost at Clemson

951
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: during the rise of DABA, and she said that it

952
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: wasn't just you didn't just improve the quality student you got.

953
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: You know, you got they got. Applications went up, which

954
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: meant they got they got they got to they got

955
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: to have a higher accept you know, basically a lower

956
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: acceptance rate, which means you're getting a higher quality student.

957
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: They had more out of state students or more diversified

958
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: student body. More out of state students means she can

959
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: give more scholarship money in state. There's all sorts of

960
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: benefits that come with it, and then she said to

961
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: one other thing, it improved. It was a differentiator when

962
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: doing interviews with professors. I think it just got a

963
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: better quality of professor who saw the excitement around the

964
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: football program as a feature. You know, you sometimes hear

965
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: you know university, you get academic, you'll get the academic faculty.

966
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: Faculty sentence will fight investments into sports programs because they

967
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: think it's being taken away from academics. But I think

968
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: more and more modern faculties understand that success in athletics

969
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: actually indirectly translate to success in academics because it allows it.

970
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: It creates more interest in the school. You get more

971
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: applications that in turn gets more donor dollars into the school.

972
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: It just it is truly rising tide. So why do

973
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: I say all this before I give you this preamble here,

974
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: before I give you my proposal to fix the NCAA

975
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: tournament and to bring back everything that we love about

976
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: it and keep what we love about it and have

977
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: it benefit everybody. It's my proposal to expand the tournament

978
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: to ninety six teams, because it's clear now with then

979
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: IHL the situation we're in, which is, look it is gravity.

980
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: It is allowed that all the great mid major players

981
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: all are all going to end up in power for schools. Right,

982
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: you just have to look. You look at any of

983
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: the top programs. I mean, Iowa was a great example, right.

984
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: Their coach and point guard started together in Division two.

985
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: They had success at Drake together. Now they're at Iowa

986
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: and they knock off Florida. So all the great mid

987
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: major players are still having a huge impact in the

988
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. They're just doing it with bigger brands, a

989
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: bigger brand on their jersey. But there's over three hundred

990
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: and twenty Division I basketball programs and right now only

991
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: sixty eight slots for those three hundred and twenty basketball programs.

992
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: That's actually arguably too small of a cut. And even

993
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: if you if so, if you expanded ninety six, you're

994
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: still less than one third. Major League baseball has twelve

995
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: out of thirty teams that make football has fourteen out

996
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: of thirty two Basketball now has twenty out of thirty

997
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: if you count the playing games. So having college basketball

998
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: allow less than a third, but nearly a third of

999
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: their programs into their postseason isn't diluting the product. It's

1000
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: probably arguably fair and more importantly by expanding in ninety six.

1001
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to the logistics here in minute, because

1002
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: I've solved all your logistics problems here, Okay, I'm gonna

1003
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna borrow page from my friend Colin Convert. I

1004
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: am giving you the answer. Hopefully the NCAA is smart

1005
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: enough to just accept my proposal as is and just

1006
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: implement it. It is a it is. It is not

1007
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: going to dilute the product. It will enhance all of

1008
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: these universities. It This is a good thing to do

1009
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: for students. It is a good thing to do for academics.

1010
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: It is a good thing to do for recruiting everyday

1011
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: Americans to want to go to school wherever. So it

1012
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: has a net positive across the board for higher education.

1013
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: I really believe this, and I just laid out a

1014
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: couple of examples to reinforce this notion. And I know, look,

1015
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: I understand the real cynics. Hey, there's these people that

1016
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: get paid to play college sports aren't even going to class. Yeah,

1017
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: there's always going to be those examples, but a lot

1018
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: of this still funnels back to the university and only

1019
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: raises only raises everybody's floor, all right, So without further ado,

1020
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: this is the simplest, This is an easy way to

1021
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: implement a ninety six team tournament. So let me give

1022
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: you the structure. It's pretty simple. Four regions, just like

1023
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: we have now currently you have four reasons with what

1024
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: do we do with u sevent essentially seventeen? What do

1025
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: we have with every not every region? So right now

1026
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 1: it's sixty eight teams. Make it with the first four,

1027
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: but we have four regions sixteen plus two, so I

1028
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: guess it's eighteen. That can't be right, excuse me. So

1029
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: basically we're averaging not each region has has the eighteen

1030
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: teams in it, so this current so I know I'm

1031
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: confusing things there. So right now we're six four regions,

1032
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: sixteen teams, and then of course we have two round

1033
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: of sixteen playans, so we have six sixteen seeds and

1034
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: six eleven seeds. My proposal would have four regions, twenty

1035
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: four teams in each region, giving new year ninety six teams.

1036
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: If you have a seed of one through eight, there's

1037
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: only one team in each of those regions, so eight

1038
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: teams per region, so only so you'll have four to

1039
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: one seeds still four, two seeds, four, eight seeds right

1040
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,439
Speaker 1: all the way one through eight. Four of each seed

1041
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: seeds nine through sixteen in each region would have two

1042
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: teams on that line. There'd be two nine seeds in

1043
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: each region, two ten seeds right sixteen teams seeded nine

1044
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: through sixteen, all who would play each other eight teams

1045
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: seeded one through eight the first round. The playing games

1046
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: would also be done on Tuesday Wednesday, just like they

1047
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: are now with the first four. Right now, they're two

1048
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: games on Tuesday night, two games on Wednesday night. So

1049
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: now in order to have all these nine through sixteen

1050
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: playings in the four regions, you'd have to have thirty

1051
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: two playing games to instead of what we have now,

1052
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: which is four, and you would have sixteen of them

1053
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: on Tuesday and sixteen of them on Wednesday, and still

1054
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: start your tournament one through sixty four on Thursday and

1055
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: the next first round game set of games on Friday.

1056
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: So the math is pretty simple. We've already done this

1057
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: now know all these games wouldn't be in Dayton. What

1058
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: you would simply do is whoever the first round host

1059
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: city is, instead of hosting Thursday, Saturday or Friday, Sunday.

1060
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: They host Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. So you're

1061
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: cutting down in the travel, right, and you see it everybody.

1062
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: And if you're asking right, the one through ninety six, right,

1063
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: all the nine seeds are ahead of all the ten seeds.

1064
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: If you're doing the s curve, all the ten seeds

1065
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: are heading eleven seeds. And look, you might make slight

1066
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: adjustments here there to maybe prevent playing game rematches. You know,

1067
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: maybe you can't prevent rematches in the first in the

1068
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: in the in the round of sixty four or the

1069
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: round of thirty two, but you do your best in

1070
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: the round of ninety six to do this. But here's

1071
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: what it would give you. More basketball. We like, more basketball,

1072
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: more inventory, more one and donees. Ninety six teams. Look,

1073
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: we have it now arguably right. You want to know

1074
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: what the other thirty two teams are. Just go to

1075
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: the nit right, and it would be teams like Auburn.

1076
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: Maybe my GW makes it, Maybe they don't. I don't

1077
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: think they do. But Dayton probably gets in, but it

1078
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: probably would, you know, improve you know, the eight ten

1079
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: probably becomes four to five or six bid league. Yeah,

1080
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: the SEC maybe becomes a fourteen bid league, twelve bid league.

1081
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: Who knows, right, But you give a chance to the

1082
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: mid majors. Yes, the obstacle is higher, there's more inclusivity,

1083
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: there's we have plenty of talent, right. The NBA is

1084
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: expanding while I well, you could argue they have a

1085
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: couple of week franchises now that they ought to probably

1086
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: move rather than add teams, but they can't. They act.

1087
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: The reason the NBA is expanding is there's enough talent

1088
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: around the world to fill it, and we're now learning

1089
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: there's enough talent to we have you absolutely the ninety

1090
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: sixth team is no, it would be the same as

1091
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: what you see now with the with the sixteen seeds.

1092
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: But take the eighty first team in that thing. The

1093
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: difference between the I'll tell you right now, I think

1094
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: it's Nevada is playing Auburn in an NIT game to

1095
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: I think decide who goes to the NIT semis Nevada is.

1096
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: It's probably as competitive as Salute. They could be. You know,

1097
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: you could put them in a nine seed or you

1098
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: could say they just you know, weren't quite good enough

1099
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: to get in and be in an eleven seed plan.

1100
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: But they're not that far out of it, you know,

1101
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: and they've done better in their conference tournament. They may

1102
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: have ended up as an eleven seed plan. I think

1103
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: when you look at the teams seeded nine through twelve, Okay,

1104
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: in particular, the difference between those sixteen teams and the

1105
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,520
Speaker 1: thirty two teams that are in the NIT is negligible.

1106
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 1: So all you're doing is expanding that pool, and you

1107
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: know what, you're giving shots to these mid majors to

1108
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: do what they're going to do. It gives the mid

1109
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: majors the exposure in a national setting. Everybody makes more money.

1110
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: Oh did I leave that part out right? They answered

1111
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: all your questions is money. Sometimes your problems is money.

1112
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: Everybody would make more money. You can still go back

1113
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: to the sixty four if you wanted to do that.

1114
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: You have the fun little there's just it is only

1115
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: going to be more fan friendly. It will Who cares

1116
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: about the arguments between ninety seven, ninety eight and ninety nine.

1117
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: Who's left out right? Nobody cares about those teams at

1118
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: that point anymore. You know, the best teams are getting

1119
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: a shot at this tournament. This tournament is semi random,

1120
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: but it does seem the best does flow to the top.

1121
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: You're still likely going to have the top conferences dominate

1122
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: the final four when all of a sudden done, but

1123
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: you're given the mid majors more shots, and guess what,

1124
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: more shots on goal mean, more pucks might go into

1125
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: the goal, and you're going to have and it brings

1126
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: back that long shot. It brings back the opportunity of

1127
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: more cinderellas, and at the same time, it gives an

1128
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: advantage to the power conferences because most of them are

1129
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: going to get essentially a first round by so whoever

1130
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: they fail. And yes, sometimes those teams with fresher legs

1131
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: are going to win a first round game. But guess

1132
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: what if you lose a first round game to somebody

1133
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to lose, you probably weren't gonna win

1134
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: the whole thing anyway, so we've gotten you out of

1135
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: the way anyway. This is the answer. It needs to

1136
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: go to ninety six. It takes more. Look, my goal

1137
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: in all of sports is to take the subject It

1138
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: take as much subjectivity out of the situations as you

1139
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: possibly can. Lee let the committees do seating. This minimizes

1140
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: how much the committee's decide who gets in and who

1141
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: gets out, and you sort of get rid of all

1142
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: of that issue, because once you hit ninety six, you're

1143
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: just not It's that you can have arguments about seeding

1144
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: and who gets to nine seed. Who gets the eight

1145
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: seed becomes really important, right who avoids the first four,

1146
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: first two day, you know, the round of ninety six,

1147
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: and who doesn't. That's kind of fun. But I think

1148
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: that this would solve a lot of problem and essentially

1149
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: be ultimately good for everybody. Good for the future of

1150
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: college basketball, good for smaller schools trying to elevate their brands,

1151
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: Good for basketball players who don't feel like they have

1152
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: to go to the super powerful conferences in order to

1153
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: get some attention in the tournament. It might keep people

1154
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: playing closer to home, and it guarantees that you'll always

1155
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: have the best teams and that they that I think

1156
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: ultimately making it towards the end or at least the

1157
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: hottest teams on that front. So there's your answer, give

1158
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: me a ninety sixteen NCAA tournament. I think in some

1159
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 1: ways nil is demanding it, and the one five years

1160
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: ago I might have argued against it because the quality

1161
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: and that in that distinction from sixty four to ninety

1162
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: six was shit. That's not the case anymore. That's not

1163
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: the case at all. It's just there is a lot

1164
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: more talent out there, a lot more and the entire

1165
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: globe is being recruited now, not just for the pros

1166
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: but for college. It's why the NBA can comfortably add

1167
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: two more fifteen man rosters. The talent is there to

1168
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: do this now. They may not have the right markets.

1169
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: Maybe Memphis needs to be they move the Memphis team

1170
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: to Nashville. Maybe New Orleans needs to go to another place,

1171
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: but Seattle and Vegas also are pretty good places to

1172
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: do this. And who knows maybe, And we're getting awfully close.

1173
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: As soon as we figure out how to speed up

1174
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: air travel. London and Madrid and Paris are coming, so

1175
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: we know this is going. You know, the talent is there.

1176
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: This isn't difficult to do. There is really no logistic

1177
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: barrier here. And with so many media partners out there

1178
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: looking for a piece of the mid March madness action,

1179
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: I promise you there's more money to be made too.

1180
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: So Charlie Baker, there it is. You don't have to

1181
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: change a thing. There's your proposal. It's all wrapped up

1182
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: in a nice bow. Let's get it implemented in the

1183
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: next couple of years. Today's opening day. It's the most

1184
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: hopeful time of the year. No, I have no clue

1185
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: how the hell I'm supposed to watch the Nats. I

1186
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: know I will figure it out. There's a great article

1187
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: in the Athletic that I would love to tell people about,

1188
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: and they just use the Yankees at an example. If

1189
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: you wanted to guarantee to watch every single Yankee game

1190
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: is going to be available on TV, it would cost

1191
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: you eight hundred dollars in subscriptions between Prime Cable for

1192
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: the S Network, Mlbpete Cock everything that you would have

1193
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: to buy to see every Yanking game. I thought that

1194
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: was a pretty good exercise that they did, essentially about

1195
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: eight hundred bucks to see everything. Hey, MLB, you need

1196
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: to fix this a sep. I have no clue how

1197
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: the hell I'm watching the Nats. I assume I have

1198
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: to pay some fee directly to the Nats of an

1199
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: extra ten bucks a month, whatever it's going to be.

1200
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: It's really going to irritate me as a season ticket holder.

1201
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 1: I don't think I should have to pay any extra

1202
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: money to watch them on TV. I think that ought

1203
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: to be a perk of season ticket holders, mister Lerner,

1204
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: that all access to Nats games should be available to

1205
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: season ticket holders. And perhaps you already have that somewhere,

1206
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: maybe you wait for us to ask, but that should

1207
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: be an obvious perk how this whole thing works. It

1208
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: certainly should be, because right now there's no good reason

1209
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: to have season tickets, so in some ways, using access

1210
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: to television coverage as adding that in as a per

1211
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: probably will make it a lot easier to still continue

1212
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: to convince people to buy season ticket packages, because those

1213
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: things matter. So look, I've got two fantasy baseball drafts

1214
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: this weekend, so I'm obviously knee deep in baseball. But

1215
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: I did a fun little thing. I've been going through

1216
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: all the rankings, and I thought, so I used AI.

1217
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: I put the top six hundred rankings into Claude, and

1218
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: I said, hey, divide this up by team, so I

1219
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: know which teams have the most, you know, in the

1220
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: top six hundred. And I thought it was a fun

1221
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: little exercise. Well, it is the Dodgers one, the Yankees two,

1222
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: the Cubs three, the Phillies four, and the Mariners five.

1223
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: All of them were playoff teams right six through ten,

1224
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: or the Braves, Mets, Red Sox, in the Guardians and Brewers.

1225
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: And it's the next five that I'm the most curious about.

1226
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: And these are the teams because I I don't have

1227
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: a team to root for this year that I know

1228
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: is going to be a playoff team. I'm just hoping

1229
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: the Nationals don't lose Hunter games, all right. I am

1230
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: just you know, please, please, please, please please win sixty

1231
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: three games. That's all I'm asking. They had a couple

1232
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: of seventy one win seasons a couple of years ago.

1233
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, we're on our way to eighty this point.

1234
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: Just give me sixty three. Please don't embarrass us beyond that.

1235
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: And by the way, my god, right, I think it

1236
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: is funny how Dan Schnyder covered up the inequities of

1237
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: sports owners in DC. But he did. But I digress.

1238
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: If I were, you know, the dark Corps what I'm

1239
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: interested in. We know, Dodgers, Yankees, Blue Jays, Mariners. That

1240
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: feels that feels like you know, you know, probably Tigers

1241
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: are in there, right, those are your those are your

1242
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 1: World Series contenders. But sort of the under you know,

1243
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: somebody's going to come from out of nowhere under the

1244
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: radar right was arguably the Mariners in the in the

1245
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 1: Blue Jay were two of those teams. So the hot

1246
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: under the radar team that I'm pulling for is the Pirates.

1247
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: So I always try to have a young team that

1248
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: I'm pulling for that I love schemes. They have a

1249
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: really young team. I love the history of the Pirates.

1250
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: I love that community. As you know. Dynastic my new

1251
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: sports history podcast with Ja Donde, our first episodes about

1252
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, or second episode is gonna be about Pittsburgh Steelers.

1253
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: But before they were the Steelers, the most successful Pittsburgh

1254
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: franchise was the Pirates. It's been a debacle the last

1255
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: forty years, but it was, you know, up until Barry

1256
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 1: Bonds left, it was the Pirates were consistently one of

1257
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: the better franchises in baseball. I certainly hope this is

1258
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: a year that they do because I think if they

1259
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: can get to the playoffs, then those owners will finally

1260
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: spend some money and then maybe the Pirates can can

1261
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: behave and like a major market team. But the team's

1262
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: the sort of I'm going to be, Look, I'm going

1263
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: to be sort of you know rooting for the Orioles.

1264
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: They're in the region. They have all the talent in

1265
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 1: the world. I have way too many Adlie Rushman rookie

1266
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: cards that I can't get rid of. So I'd really

1267
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: love to see him h get his uh, get get

1268
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: his get his mojo back. We'll see if he does,

1269
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: because he's got some motivation. There's a catcher behind him,

1270
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: Sam Bassalo, I believe his name, who who could overtake him?

1271
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: But that's sort of the fun to me. For this season,

1272
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 1: we know who the top teams are going to be.

1273
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: Who's a team we're not expecting that's going to break through? Right?

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Speaker 1: And my candidates are Oriols, Royals, the hated San Francisco Giants.

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Speaker 1: I'm a former Dodger fan, I still hate the Giants,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to go with the Sacramento as this

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Speaker 1: is their last year in that bandbox park, so they're

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Speaker 1: going to have I mean, I love the A's is.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you need a fantasy hit or just grab an A,

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Speaker 1: grab a Sacramento A because they're going to hit more

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Speaker 1: homers than they should. Right last year, I was all

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Speaker 1: over Jacob Wilson one dollar shortstop turned out to be

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Speaker 1: brilliant near Rookie of the Year Nick Kurtz is on

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Speaker 1: that team. So those are my dark horses. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just excited about having baseball back because there's nothing like

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Speaker 1: what I love is coming. You're done with the day, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have your relaxation drink, whatever your choice is. If

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01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna get sold, you get sold. If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get glass of red wine, you do that, and you

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Speaker 1: put on the ballgame. Now. Of course, we just have

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Speaker 1: to figure out where the hell we find the ball

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Speaker 1: games this year. But when we find them, that rhythm,

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Speaker 1: the evening rhythm nice to an hour and twenty minute game,

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Speaker 1: I love it. So like my big hope, Nationals have

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01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: to go one to know so I have one happy

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Speaker 1: day in baseball this year, all right. First question comes

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Speaker 1: from Steve Vernon Hills, Illinois, and he says, ah, he's

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Speaker 1: writing in reaction to my top five all time Illinois

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Speaker 1: statewide campaigns, and he writes, Hey, the eighty six cover

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01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: race with Adelaie the third deserves to be on the list.

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Speaker 1: As an Adelaie fan since nineteen seventy, I banged on

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Speaker 1: doors for his first Sennic campaign in high school it

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01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: was especially painful. I suppose the Lincoln Douglas eighteen fifty

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Speaker 1: eight campaign needs to be number one. You're not the

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Speaker 1: only one that asked me about eighteen fifty eight. I'll

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Speaker 1: get to it in a minute. Best debates and it

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01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: made a president. Love the podcast, but almost too much.

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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: Don't have time for out Frankins anymore, and I'm retired.

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01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: Oh hey, Al, I don't know if you still listen.

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Speaker 1: Franken and I were supposed to do a home and

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Speaker 1: own way in our pods, and I think we're going

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Speaker 1: to hopefully get that done soon. But now, don't make

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Speaker 1: don't make Al. I'm unhappy, but you know I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that I'm the lead pod for either. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you why I didn't include eighteen fifty eight and why

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Speaker 1: I just I just made this decision when I put

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Speaker 1: the research together for the book. I told you this

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Speaker 1: was research I did for a book about thirty years ago,

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Speaker 1: and I just decided not to include any campaigns that

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Speaker 1: were not resolved by the voters. Right, And the eighteen

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Speaker 1: fifty eight Senate campaign, Yes, it's the Lincoln Douglas debates.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's iconic and maybe because of that,

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Speaker 1: it should. If there is an exception, that would be

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Speaker 1: the loan exception. But it was simply because it's a

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Speaker 1: campaign that the state legislature, right, because Lincoln won the campaign,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't, right, you know, I mean, yes, the

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Speaker 1: debates mattered, the right that mattered in some ways more

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Speaker 1: than the result itself. But a very very very fair

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Speaker 1: question to ask you weren't the only one, and I

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Speaker 1: was glad to get that. So that's why I didn't

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Speaker 1: include it. But you know, I already made one exception

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Speaker 1: of Illinois to include a presidential where I don't want

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Speaker 1: to include any presidential but that one felt iconic because

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Speaker 1: it's been used. It's been so weaponized in our politics

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Speaker 1: to this day. Next question comes from Josh P. You're

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Speaker 1: right to really enjoying your podcast. Thank you for all

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01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: the hard work involved. I meet the press this morning.

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Speaker 1: Referring to March twenty second, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson told

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Speaker 1: Kristen Welker, we are energy self sufficient. We get an

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Speaker 1: oil from the Strait of Hormuz. If this is true,

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Speaker 1: why have our gas prices risen a dollar or more

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Speaker 1: since we started bombing around? Thank you, Josh B. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think you know the answer, the markets of the

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Speaker 1: markets and that, and it's you know, when twenty percent

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Speaker 1: of you know, yes, where do we get our oil?

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Speaker 1: We get our oil more from you know, we are

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Speaker 1: more energy independent than we even were thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: But twenty percent of the world, particularly Asia, gets it from.

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Speaker 1: And when you start right, it just raises it. It's

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Speaker 1: a market, right when you suddenly deny supply in one

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Speaker 1: part of the world, then people start looking where there

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01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: is supply and they start bidding it up because they're

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Speaker 1: desperate for it. So are you know, unless we decided

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Speaker 1: to pipulate our market or have state you know, this

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01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: is where you would have state controls and stuff. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody would be in favor of that. So

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Speaker 1: it is all Scott Bessett and essentially was making the

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Speaker 1: case for us that our economy isn't going to crater

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Speaker 1: because we don't get and that is true. But we're

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Speaker 1: all going to get taxed on this, and essentially we're

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Speaker 1: all going to pay an extra fee for the inability

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Speaker 1: of oil to get through the straight of horm moves

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Speaker 1: to Asia. So it's just you know, there's there, you know,

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Speaker 1: unless when you want price controls on this from the government,

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Speaker 1: which I think long term nobody would want to see

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Speaker 1: that happen. Next question comes from Donovan from Maryland. He says, Hey, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: huge fan of the podcast, looking forward to the commander

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Speaker 1: getting a solid draft pick next month. M it's all

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Speaker 1: about Jeremiah Love, right, that's all the new draft experts

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01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: are going there if you believe that the commanders don't

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Speaker 1: need it, offensive Lineman, I'd love to see Jeremiah Love

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Speaker 1: on that team anyway. Many Americans feel that national politics

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Speaker 1: has become so dominant that it drowns out the local

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Speaker 1: officials who actually shape our daily lives, our mayor's county, executive,

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Speaker 1: state legislatures. How do you think constituents can actively work

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Speaker 1: to rebalance that power dynamic so that Washington handles the

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Speaker 1: big picture issues like defense, trade, and foreign policy, while

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Speaker 1: local leaders are empowered to address the issues that directly

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Speaker 1: affect our communities. Well, look, I think this is this

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Speaker 1: is an incredible great question. What I love about it

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Speaker 1: is that it's going to allow me to rant about

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Speaker 1: the loss of local media, because ultimately that's the issue.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is a couple things have happened right,

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Speaker 1: you got rid of right. A man named Craig decided

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Speaker 1: classifies out to be free. YadA, YadA YadA. We suddenly

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Speaker 1: had no more local news. And what happens is when

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Speaker 1: you don't have anybody covering locally, when local residents are

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Speaker 1: upset about something happening locally, they're none from they're not

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Speaker 1: familiar with who their local officials are because there's nothing

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Speaker 1: to follow locally, so they're more likely to know who

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Speaker 1: the national officials are or who their congressional officials are,

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Speaker 1: so they end up gravitating towards the federal office holders,

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Speaker 1: towards the names they know, towards their senators or congressman.

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Speaker 1: Because I hear this, you know, you get I teach

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Speaker 1: these these you know, I usually have these students that

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Speaker 1: I teach at. You see a lot of them are

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Speaker 1: interns on the hill, and they're basically they're they're they're

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Speaker 1: the first line of defense, meaning they're answering the phones

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Speaker 1: and they'll get a lot of questions sometimes that have

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with congressional with federal policy, but their

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01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 1: complaints about something happening locally that they didn't know how

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01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: who else to call. So you have that issue. Right,

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01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: you got out local news and it and it, and

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01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: you have a less informed local community who doesn't know

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Speaker 1: why certain things are happening. There's a great academic study,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I believe it came out of Stanford

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Speaker 1: that noted that that when local news organizations disappear, essentially

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Speaker 1: within a couple of years, that community tax bill goes up.

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Speaker 1: Essentially when you get rid of the local watchdog government

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Speaker 1: Fiji to death, and they can sneak in stuff because

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Speaker 1: nobody notices. All of a sudden, You're like, huh, there's

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Speaker 1: now a fee to do what. They just added a

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Speaker 1: new recycling fee. And my bill here, they did this

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Speaker 1: to my water bill. They did all these little thing

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Speaker 1: and you're like, and you know, it's a five percent

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Speaker 1: surcharge here, three percent surcharge there. Things that if somebody

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Speaker 1: knew about it, there might be enough people upset about

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Speaker 1: it that there'd be enough of a ground swell that

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Speaker 1: the local politician, the local city councilman, the local mayri, etc.

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Speaker 1: Would say, better not do this. But there is a

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Speaker 1: direct correlation between the lack of local news and government

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01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: essentially abusing its residents with more tax and fee hikes

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01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: and I think that is the and that and that

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Speaker 1: gets at to the core of the of the what

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Speaker 1: your folk, which is you're right, I think that it is.

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Speaker 1: I guess my diagnosis is when you lose local news,

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Speaker 1: you you deny the population essentially access to who all

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Speaker 1: of their government officials are. And the irony is that

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Speaker 1: a local elected official has more direct impact on the

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01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: cost of you of your life financially than a member

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Speaker 1: of Congress does, or a US Senator does, or frankly

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Speaker 1: even a president. And you know, because you know, one

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Speaker 1: of your biggest bills that you pay every year is

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Speaker 1: your property tax bill. Well, that's usually decided by a

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Speaker 1: county official, a county executive or sometimes city that's a

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01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: big deal, right, Your state income tax, your state fees,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the things, all the little things, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether it's to register your dog, whether it's to you know,

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01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: get a permit to put up a fence. Right, all

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Speaker 1: of this is money you pay to your local government directly.

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Speaker 1: So you interact more with government that are impacted by

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Speaker 1: people that are elected within county districts or city districts

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01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 1: than you are with government that's elected between congressional districts

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Speaker 1: or statewide, and I think that that Unfortunately, I think

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01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: have we always over indexed on covering federal and national

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Speaker 1: politics at least this century, we have. I think that

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Speaker 1: was the biggest nine to eleven effect. I know this

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Speaker 1: is a weird way of saying of invoking that, but

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Speaker 1: you know, nine to eleven really also was an accelerant

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Speaker 1: to nationalizing all news, including local news became sort of

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Speaker 1: derivative of national news because it was like we were

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Speaker 1: in the sh shared you know, the shared environment. So

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Speaker 1: it's just the nationalization of news consumption really sort of

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Speaker 1: arguably really accelerated right after nine to eleven, And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that we need to really sort of that's

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Speaker 1: that's where my that's what little the efforts I've been

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Speaker 1: trying to make. Remember Local News Day is April ninth.

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01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: We basically an awareness day. Is the more people get

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Speaker 1: back to following finding ways to follow local news, the

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Speaker 1: more they're going to realize how much more their lives

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Speaker 1: are impacted by these local officials, as you point on, Tonovan,

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Speaker 1: So terrific question, Thank you for it. Next question comes

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Speaker 1: from Sean King, Colorado. Shaan asked, now, with Christy Nome

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Speaker 1: being kicked to the curb, I was wondering if she

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Speaker 1: has or had ambitions to run for president twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: I got the impression that with all our ads, the

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Speaker 1: DHS and taxpayers paid for, it was more than just

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Speaker 1: educating people on immigration and airport security, but positioning herself

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Speaker 1: so that she could draw interest as a candidate. I

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Speaker 1: mean seeing her wear DHS caps, cowboy hats, and riding

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Speaker 1: horses during her commercial strut, that she was trying to

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Speaker 1: brand herself as a badass woman. Did you get that impression?

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Speaker 1: And do you think that now she's out of Trump's orbit,

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Speaker 1: she may have squandered her chances? Love your podcast, keeping

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Speaker 1: coming uh Man one thousand percent. I mean there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: You know, Corey Lewandowski, who was her chief political aid,

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Speaker 1: and some would argue more than just a chief political aid,

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Speaker 1: was absolutely as somebody who was the first campaign manager

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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. You know, he was also the chief

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Speaker 1: advocate of Christy Nome to be Donald Trump's running in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. In fact, he made no secret he

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Speaker 1: had gotten polling con done and he shared it with me,

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Speaker 1: and he shared it with a lot of reporters. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, that showed he had polling that showed

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Speaker 1: Christy Nome adding more a Trump Nome ticket performing better

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Speaker 1: against Harris than a Trump Ban's ticket. So he absolutely

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Speaker 1: this was always about that. There was some chatter that

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Speaker 1: maybe she'd primary Mike Rounds, who's up for reelection this

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Speaker 1: cycle in twenty twenty six. I believe that's not going

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Speaker 1: to happen, and especially the way she was kicked to

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Speaker 1: the curb, and it's all, you know, he gave her

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Speaker 1: a job member, he moved her. Technically she's got some

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Speaker 1: made up job that he created about the Western hemisphere.

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Speaker 1: I think that was just designed to not have her

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Speaker 1: wandering around unemployed talking trash about the Trump administration or

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller or others to reporters. So I do think

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Speaker 1: her presidential ambitions are derailed. But I will tell you this,

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Speaker 1: if John Thune decides not to seek reelection in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, and I will say this, I have no

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Speaker 1: reason to think that he's not going to seek reelection.

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Speaker 1: But if Senate, if the Democrats won the Senate and

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Speaker 1: Thune's and it somehow costs them and his leadership post

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Speaker 1: after the twenty six midterms, then I don't think he

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Speaker 1: seeks election twenty eight, then I would say that's the

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01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: most likely landing spot for her would be the US

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Speaker 1: Senate in an open seat if John Thune chose not

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01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 1: to run in twenty eight. But look, I think she

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Speaker 1: wants to run for president. I think she has that ambition.

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Speaker 1: I just think that the realistic paths are blocked for her,

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Speaker 1: and I think if she is, if she wins office

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight, it's more likely to be an

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Speaker 1: open US Senate seat in South Dakota than it is

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Speaker 1: an open presidential seat in a national election. All right,

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Speaker 1: Ron Robert r H. Yes, you're right. I am more

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Speaker 1: comfortable it has always been. You know, Look, I am

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Speaker 1: I am not naive to how the business of independent

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Speaker 1: media works. I'm not shy. I'm a capitalist. I am

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Speaker 1: uh there. You know. I I'm not going to let

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Speaker 1: crooks sponsor me. I'm not going to let unethical people

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Speaker 1: sponsor me. But you know, I I hope you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to guarantee that every sponsor I have

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Speaker 1: is a sponsor I use, is a product I use.

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Speaker 1: But we do we do our best event these folks,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Well Trump Vada ran, Well that was

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01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 1: I guess in some ways you're you're asking a question

1533
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: that I left you an open answer at the start

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01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: of this podcast. Right, I think it's more likely that

1535
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: there are some boots on the ground to deal with

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01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: the straight of Hormos than him completely pulling out. If

1537
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 1: you were to ask me, which is more likely now?

1538
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: I think we will. We will having debates whether what

1539
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: he does is an invasion or not. Is it boots

1540
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 1: on the ground or is it simply boots on the

1541
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: straight of coastline, on the straight of Hormoz, right like

1542
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: that sort of business. I think that's it is. Do

1543
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: I think we're going to be marching on the streets

1544
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: of Tehran? I do not, But I think the likelihood

1545
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: that there are American boots in Iranian territory is pretty high.

1546
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 1: So I guess if I could draw that distinction know

1547
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: in Tehran, Yes, on the coast near the Strait of Hormuz.

1548
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Speaker 1: Next question comes from Mike and Honolulu. He says, I

1549
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,759
Speaker 1: really appreciate the comments and how the Iran War continues

1550
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 1: to unravel and demonstrate strained, if not damaged, relationships with

1551
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,959
Speaker 1: allies and what feels like a low attention of decades

1552
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: to decades of scenario planning in the region. Also saw

1553
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal coverage of the American Board Citizen one

1554
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: Carlos Valencia Gonzales taking over Mexico's most powerful drug cartel,

1555
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 1: and so wondering how degraded our intelligence community is and

1556
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: who is advising the administration on probable outcomes that have

1557
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: a far reaching impact things for your work, Mike Honolulu, Well, Mike,

1558
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 1: I have a bigger problem in the intel community, and

1559
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going to I don't want to be careful.

1560
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to get any of my sources in

1561
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: trouble on this. But it's pretty clear to me that

1562
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: we have two things simultaneously happening in the intelligence community

1563
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:51,679
Speaker 1: at the moment. Number one is they do not paint

1564
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 1: the full picture for this president. Whether it's because they

1565
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: don't want to tell them things he doesn't want to hear,

1566
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: I think that's most likely the reason. When you look

1567
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Speaker 1: at Tulsa Gabbert, John Radcliffe. Ratcliffe at the CIA, Gabbard's

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01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 1: at DNI, these are two people who do not want

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01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 1: to be in it, you know, who are more accustomed

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01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: to telling they got to where they got because they

1571
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: tell Trump what he wants to hear. So you have

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01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: that issue issue too within the IC, meaning the intelligence community,

1573
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 1: is you have professionals who've been there for decades, worked

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01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 1: sources for decades, who don't trust the political leaders in

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01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: charge of their departments. I think that they follow the

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01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 1: law and they report what they believe they need to

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01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: report to their superiors. But I think that if you

1578
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 1: told me that they're not getting the best work because

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01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 1: of the lack of trust, because their fear that their

1580
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 1: sources will get exposed for the wrong reason. So I

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01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: just mike concern, and I have more than just speculative

1582
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:05,600
Speaker 1: concern about this. I'm just going to leave it at that.

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01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: My concern is that that we've had that the fault

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01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: that you've had the following impact on intelligence gathering. It's

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01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: clear Trump is seen as an irresponsible actor when it

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Speaker 1: comes to intelligence. He shares it with everybody. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: respect classifications. Right, it is, he is a he is

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01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 1: a and he uses no secure phones. He's just a

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01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: he is a he is just a walking target. You know,

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Speaker 1: every single major intelligence agency that is semi adversarial, and

1591
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:50,799
Speaker 1: some who are friendly have access or ties to Trump,

1592
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:56,719
Speaker 1: both electronically or literally bought people off inside his circle.

1593
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: You know, it is it is so you have that issue.

1594
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 1: So what does that mean? What it means is the

1595
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: strength of the American intelligence community has been its sources

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01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: in other countries and its relationships. We have the best

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Speaker 1: intelligence agencies in the globe. And part of it is

1598
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,719
Speaker 1: because we work in tandem with so many other excellent

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01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: intelligence agencies, whether it's with the UK you have the

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Speaker 1: five IYES program, Canada, UK, New Zealand, Australia, You've got MASAD.

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Speaker 1: You know, but you know these other intelligence agencies that

1602
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: we rely on for a lot of our work. You know,

1603
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 1: it's not just what we do, it's some shared with

1604
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 1: Key Alive. They're well aware that Donald Trump's a leeker.

1605
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: They're well aware that there are way too many rogue

1606
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: actors who have classified security clearances who can't be trusted,

1607
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: and so it's just what you what you have is

1608
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: a slow it's sort of a slow motion train wreck. Right.

1609
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 1: It starts with our own rank and file being skeptical.

1610
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 1: Right at first, it starts with the cycle. Right, you

1611
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: have the people in charge who brief the president, who

1612
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: are slightly sycophanic and already or curating that. I mean,

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01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: my god, they have to make a video of him

1614
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: every day to show them Iran war. They can't give

1615
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: him a verbal briefing. They have to show him pictures.

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01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 1: I'll let you make your joke about that. So it

1617
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: begins there, right, Gabbert and Ratcliffe aren't going to tell

1618
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 1: him bad news. Ratcliffe and Gabbert aren't going to get

1619
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: the professional They're getting a limited view from their rank

1620
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 1: and file because their rank and file want to protect

1621
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: their sources, and so there's some limitations of what's making

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01:39:55,640 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 1: its way to them. Then are professional can file Their

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Speaker 1: counterparts are also withholding from them, Maybe not because they

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01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: don't trust their American counterpart, but they don't trust what

1625
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: happens once that intelligence makes it into the American system.

1626
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: So you tell me, I am you know if, of

1627
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 1: course we're missing things left and right in this administration

1628
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: because I don't believe the intelligence community. Do I believe

1629
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: we still have the ability to have world class intelligence

1630
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: and know exactly what the hell's going on all over

1631
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, goddamn right, I do. But when you

1632
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 1: look at all the different choke points that likely limit

1633
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: important information getting to the commander in chief, sometimes intentionally,

1634
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:55,639
Speaker 1: other times unintentionally, you see where this becomes a problem.

1635
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 1: So is it a shock to me that we're kind

1636
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:01,799
Speaker 1: of blindsided, whether it's about an American taken over a cartel,

1637
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 1: we're not one hundred percent sure of that, or you know,

1638
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: us not knowing you know, the fact that she's family

1639
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 1: members have family members that live in the United States

1640
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 1: and seems to be something our intelligence community is not

1641
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 1: that interested in. Anyway. I throw all this out there.

1642
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 1: It's a terrific question, but it's something that really concerns me.

1643
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: And if you told me we're going it is, the

1644
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: likelihood that we get blindsided by some attack somewhere has

1645
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 1: never been higher. And it's because we've alienated allies, We've

1646
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: created distrust and they're sort of built in skepticism, and

1647
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: we know this president doesn't trust the intelligence community anyway,

1648
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 1: so you throw I mean, they could give him all

1649
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 1: the briefings in the world, and he may not accept

1650
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: the premise because he thinks they're all secretly out to

1651
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 1: get him anyway. So put all that together and you

1652
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:05,560
Speaker 1: draw your conclusions. Do you think the president's getting the

1653
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: best intelligence briefings that are to be gotten? I think

1654
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 1: we know the answer. Next question comes from Brandon Ce.

1655
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 1: I'm all enough to remember the nineteen ninety four midterms

1656
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 1: and the Republican Contract with America, and since then control

1657
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 1: of Congress has one back and forth quite a bit.

1658
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 1: Given the lack of a clear democratic policy alternative to

1659
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: mega style conservatism right now, do you think Democrats could

1660
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 1: benefit from putting forward a similar platform ahead of an election,

1661
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 1: and if so, what kinds of policies would actually be

1662
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 1: most politically effective to include? You know, Brandon, I hope

1663
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 1: you listen to the Johnny oh interview. He basically offered

1664
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 1: up something like this that he, you know, I said,

1665
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,799
Speaker 1: when you know that there needs to be some tangible ways,

1666
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,719
Speaker 1: you know, And he seems to be somebody that doesn't

1667
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 1: want to just make it all about Trump if they

1668
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 1: get power back that instead it's you know, it's sort

1669
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: of an agenda that is bills you could pass in

1670
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: the moment that may be Trump signs, and then bills

1671
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: that you're essentially setting up to be the twenty twenty

1672
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 1: eight platform to take through the American people for I

1673
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: don't know, call it project twenty twenty nine, right if

1674
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 1: Democrats think they're going to get the trifective by them.

1675
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 1: But I do think some sort of clear agenda, But

1676
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be possible, because

1677
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: I think you're going to have some Democrats running hard

1678
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 1: on Trump, hard on accountability of Trump, hard on We're

1679
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: going to you know, feat the the fire all that business,

1680
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 1: impeached Bondy, impeach Trump and peach this and beach that.

1681
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 1: I do think you're going to have some Democrats that

1682
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 1: they are not a majority of the candidate's running, but

1683
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 1: enough that it kind of comes up the messaging like

1684
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to have And I might

1685
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: argue that this party because it goes back to my

1686
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 1: opening monologue in today's episode, that I think you have

1687
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: a party that that you know, the establishment's not trusted.

1688
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 1: So if they put out some sort of contract, would

1689
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Speaker 1: it be embraced or would it be seen as why

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Speaker 1: is Washington trying to tell us what to do with

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Speaker 1: the voters these days? Right? So I just don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's if it's organizable. I mean, do I think

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Speaker 1: it would be smart to have, you know, twenty six?

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Speaker 1: You know, here's twenty six is probably too many. I

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Speaker 1: remember Democrats said something six and oh six. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know you could do eight and eighteen, right, I

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Speaker 1: guess you could do six and twenty six, or you

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Speaker 1: could do twenty six bills if you wanted. But some

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Speaker 1: sort of tangible pledge. Maybe it's just maybe it's on

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Speaker 1: social media, something on social media and tech, on jobs,

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Speaker 1: something on cost of living, something on accountability. Maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: he's obviously wanting to see a vote on the pardon amendment, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, an accountability that's more institutional rather than personal.

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Speaker 1: So I think, you know, a combination of ethics, cost

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Speaker 1: of living, and democratic infrastructure, you know, have sort of

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Speaker 1: a pledge, pledge on that it certainly wouldn't hurt. But

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm skeptical this party is organizable right now,

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Speaker 1: around something like that. I think what Graham Platner wants

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Speaker 1: to see, who maybe the nominee in Maine, is different

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Speaker 1: than what Tallerica wants to see, is different than what say,

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Speaker 1: Zach Walls or Josh Turkell in I won't want to see.

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Speaker 1: So I think that I think that would be too difficult.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to stop here. I went long

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Speaker 1: on this episode. If you're listening to it, Soup the Nuts,

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Speaker 1: it's a long one way. It's the weekend episode, so

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Speaker 1: you have an extra day or two to listen to it.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the opening. Enjoy, and we are spoiled right now.

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Speaker 1: We've got great basketball and opening weekend in baseball. Enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Hope the weather cooperates