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Speaker 2: What's California going to look like without Nancy Pelosi running

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Speaker 2: things for them over in Congress? We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about that, and also Gavin Newsim is he going to

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Speaker 2: be the nominee? Uncle Bill Bill O'Reilly says that Clay

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Speaker 2: and I are crazy. Our guest here might have a

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Speaker 2: different take. We will talk to her about it. She

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Speaker 2: is a Californian and she is somebody who understands what's

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Speaker 2: Katie Zachariah is with us right now. She's a legal

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Speaker 2: and political analyst. Let me start her this. Pelosi I

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Speaker 2: feel like said more than she as we know she's

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Speaker 2: meant to here though, when she's telling everybody, hey, climate

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Speaker 2: change is an affordability issue and it's why people are

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Speaker 3: Also, some of us on the immigration issue had traveled

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Speaker 3: we found there is one of the reasons people were

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Speaker 3: migrating to the United States is what has been mentioned,

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Speaker 3: and that is they had a drought that people couldn't farm,

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Speaker 3: so they didn't have a job and they didn't have

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Speaker 3: the food that farming would produce. Hence they were coming

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Speaker 3: the congress woman mentioned a migration issue, which is an

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Speaker 3: economics show. So this is again economic. As Congresswan Caster said,

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Speaker 3: it is not only a moral issue, but it is

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Speaker 4: As what do you make of that, Well, California is

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Speaker 4: the best experiment on this. We just taught Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 4: tout his effective policies of California and by effective quote effective,

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Speaker 4: he said, California is running sixty seven percent on green energy.

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Speaker 4: What does that mean for the California resident? So from

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three, the price of electricity

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Speaker 4: surged fifty percent for residential electricity alone, So we are

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Speaker 4: so we can say that actually it's not an affordability issue.

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Speaker 4: Green energy defers the cost to the consumer and rises

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Speaker 2: It's amazing to me that the answer that we're getting

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Speaker 2: the affordability issue in any way touches on the climate stuff,

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Speaker 2: because that's just they're just lighting money on fire with

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Speaker 2: legislation that California does everything. Wait, don't you guys not

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Speaker 2: have plastic bags in the grocery stores, right? Isn't that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you're hard pressed to find a county that

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Speaker 4: it's out, and.

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Speaker 5: Then plastic straws go across the board.

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Speaker 2: It's all ridiculous because I just think that when you

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Speaker 2: access to different kinds of micro climates, but also the

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Speaker 2: agricultural farm, all this great stuff. The coastline's absolutely beautiful,

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Speaker 2: and yet the mismanagement, whether it's on water use, forest,

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Speaker 2: fire stuff we'll talk about the Palisades in a second.

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Speaker 2: Cost of energy. It's a disaster, and yet they think

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Speaker 4: Well, And to your point, in addition to all of

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Speaker 4: that we are not using. Instead, we're importing our oil

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Speaker 4: from countries like Brazil and other nations. I think up

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Speaker 4: national security issue. And look, these Democrats have run this

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Speaker 5: They've burned it.

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Speaker 4: And Nancy Pelosi retiring, I don't know if we get

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a race to the bottom with our politicians.

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Speaker 2: What is the future of the Palisades You mentioned burning

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Speaker 2: Because Gavin newsom I see is now making the rounds

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Speaker 1: In my state included, which is one of the most

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Speaker 1: on the tip of the sphere of climate change, simultaneous

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Speaker 1: the dry is drier. You saw one of the most

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Speaker 1: attached to fire. And as we rebuild, the number one

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Speaker 1: concerned people have how do I get my home insured?

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Speaker 1: And how do you get a developer to develop a

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Speaker 1: So from across the spectrum from financial risk to the

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Speaker 1: this is a no brainer.

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Speaker 5: Nothing's ever his fault.

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Speaker 4: I think there's only been about one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 4: It's this confluence of factors where you have homes that

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Speaker 5: So a lot of these elderly people.

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Speaker 4: Had not renewed insurance, had not moved to the California

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Speaker 4: to rebuild their home. They're older homeowners, many have left

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Speaker 5: This is been their plan all along.

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Speaker 4: They stopped it because people still have people's wounds are

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Speaker 4: no longer covers temporary housing for them, they're going to

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Speaker 4: start selling these lots again to major developers and or

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Speaker 4: he should never even have a chance at becoming president

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Speaker 2: talk about the aftermath of the shutdown. I have seen

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Speaker 2: If there was that, there would have been out there

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Speaker 2: a shutdown for what?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: The Democrats again, this goes to the bottom line. The

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Speaker 5: He is not a socialist. But you have then the

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Speaker 4: Free falling into the very far left radical faction of

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to go away.

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Speaker 4: The President's right, it's a massive distraction, and it is

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Speaker 4: But people love this conspiratorial nature and they think they

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Speaker 2: What is going to be the rallying cry of those

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Speaker 4: Right, So I don't hear I don't sense a strong

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Speaker 4: you look at Prop fifty and you and the Democrats

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Speaker 4: This is a numbers issue. We have a math issue

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Speaker 4: enough registered Republicans. They were not motivated. If every single

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Speaker 4: it would have been wiped out. But the Republicans were

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Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom did that to kiss the Barack Obama ring,

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Speaker 5: But his own state, really, the.

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Speaker 4: to gain understanding that actually my parents do have knowledge

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Speaker 4: and it's good and when I don't listen, it ends

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Speaker 4: up not being very good for me. And it really

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Speaker 4: took me a long time buck to release this idea

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Speaker 4: that I could control all of the things in their

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Speaker 4: life and to allow them to kind of be who

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Speaker 4: they were and make choices and giving them constant, you know,

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Speaker 4: parenting feedback, but also allowing them to be themselves and

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Speaker 4: to see four unique humans from the same parents be

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Speaker 4: completely different little people. It's just such a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 4: And again I'm going to say it one more time.

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Speaker 4: Four is a great number.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, We're gonna try it. Put in the effort,

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Speaker 2: all right. Thank you so much, Katie Zachariah. Great to

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Speaker 2: see you. Appreciate you making the time for us.

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Speaker 5: Thank you back