1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. The Colin Cowherd Podcast brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. Well, they love basketball, golf, soccer, or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport. There is a contest for every fan Fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, and welcome in 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: to the Wednesday Morning Podcast. We're gonna bring on a 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: really interesting guy, Mark Trestman. He's been nicknamed the quarterback Whisperer. 8 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: He started as a quarterback coach for Howard Schnellenberger the 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes years ago, two times CFL Coach of the Year. 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: He was a coordinator for the Niners, Browns, Cardinals, Ravens 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: Raiders during their last Super Bowl run when rich Gannon 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: won MVP. And we're going to go through all the 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and what the world in which he views them now. 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: The number one story right now is Urban Meyer, who 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: is reeling with the Jacksonville Jaguars. So I was watching 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: an old piece of tape on the late comedian Don 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: Rickles about a month ago, and Rickles was on a 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: show with Bob Costas called Later with Bob Costas some 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: of his best work, and Rickles was a very legendarily 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: a serbic comedian. And he told Bob that even during 21 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: bad sets, never let the audience know that it's a 22 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: bad night. You don't want to lose leverage with the 23 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: audience and show weakness. That's when Heckler's take over the night. 24 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: And that's why what urban Meyer did, and the optics 25 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: right now are so bad. Players now have leverage over 26 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: urban Meyer. You can lose games, you cannot lose the 27 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: locker room. And I talked to Mike Silver, longtime NFL reporter, 28 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: today and I said, fifty fifty locker room wears it 29 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: at and he told me he thought Urban had lost 30 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: at least half the locker room. Didn't fly home with 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: a team, which is very rare. Don't believe any media 32 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: person who defends that. It's very rare, especially after a loss, 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: a close loss, you want to fly back and be 34 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: with the guys. Then, when this story surfaced, Urban canceled 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: a team meeting, met with units individually. He didn't want 36 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: to meet with all the players at once. Many players 37 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: thought he was not honest in acknowledging who the woman was. 38 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: And I don't care about his personal life, but I 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: hear this a lot from you know Buckeye fans and 40 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer fans, and I know Urban and I like him. 41 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: But people say it's a common thing. Guys, do they 42 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: flirt after a couple cocktails? Listen, if you work at 43 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: home Depot or Applebee's, Yeah, and nobody sees it. This 44 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: is Urban Meyer, a ten million dollars a year coach 45 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: and now the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Shad Khan 46 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: is embarrassed and humiliated because he took a huge risk 47 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: on hiring Urban Meyer. He got a lot of pushback 48 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: that mister college football could not handle the NFL and 49 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: was not equipped a coach at the NFL level. He 50 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: had real doubters and now Shan Khan, after a series 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: of events, looks like he whiffed. And it's not one event. 52 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: There was the comment it's like playing Alabama every week. 53 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: NFL coaches rolled their eyes at that. It's trying to 54 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: hire the trainer from Iowa who had all sorts of baggage. 55 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Terrible look. It is saying he would cut players if 56 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: they didn't get the vaccine. The NFLPA had to step in. 57 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: That was an embarrassing look. Right now it looks like 58 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: he just doesn't understand the way the NFL works. And 59 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: again this lands directly on the doorstep of the billionaire 60 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: owner of the Jags, who took a big risk hiring him. 61 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: There's the Tebow situation that looks silly. Was the least 62 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: capable tight end on a team with bad tight ends. 63 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: All of this puts the owner's judgment in doubt. So 64 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: urban's in some trouble here. And you know, let's be 65 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: honest about this. It's just bad optics. And let me 66 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: explain that. There was an article in The New York 67 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Times a while back about the word optics, and it 68 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: became a buzzword. Everybody describes things now, how things look 69 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: to the general public. Now. Before the eighties, you never 70 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: heard the term optics. Then it started to become a 71 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: term political strategists used to discuss moments that don't really 72 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: have clear consequences except from the fact they just look 73 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: bad or they look good. Howard Dean, famously Iowa Caucus 74 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, yelled a speech after losing a 75 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: lot of people said bad optics. Weird. Suddenly he was 76 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: out of the picture. He didn't do really anything wrong. 77 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: It just looked really strange. And social media. Now everything 78 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: is optics. Everyone can take a nine second video and 79 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: put it out there. People don't care about context. It's 80 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: just bad optics. It's not illegal, right, but NFL owners 81 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: don't care about illegal. There's an argument to be made. 82 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: I was told by a source I trust that if 83 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the Titans humiliated the Jags this weekend and they can't 84 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: reel this locker room back in and again goes back 85 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: to the Don Rickles story. You don't want to show 86 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: weakness to a group of fifty five alpha males. Urban 87 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: is a guy who's really hard on players. He's really tough, 88 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: and if they can sense weakness, some of these players 89 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: will split off. Fissures are created, and Urbans in big trouble. 90 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: So they are paying you ten million dollars a year 91 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: to stay at home, live for football, hang out with 92 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: your family, and not hang out at bars. That's why 93 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: you make ten million dollars a year. Rink at home, 94 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: hang out with family, and every split second you have 95 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: and every second beyond that, you're at the team facility. 96 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: I always said my question with urban Meyer was never 97 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: the football. I've watched the Jags play three of their 98 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: four games, two of them closely. They've gotten better every game. 99 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: The football part I don't worry about. Does he realize 100 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: this is not college football. You can't bulldoze your way 101 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: through decisions. You have an owner, you have NFL press, 102 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: national media, you have alpha males, you have millionaires. It's 103 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: not college football. You can't bulldoze your way through the truth. 104 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna get called out and urban Meyer right now 105 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: is so I talk about the word optics. I want 106 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: to touch on something else. There's another word or term 107 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: I read about recently called shrink inflation. And this has 108 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 1: to do with the current plight of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 109 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: So your favorite products at a grocery store are probably 110 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: getting a little smaller, the cereal box, the peanut butter jar, 111 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: or the ice cream pint. The price is remaining the 112 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: same or even going up. They call that shrink flation. 113 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes the difference is so small that you the consumer, 114 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: only notice it if you put the two products side 115 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: by side and you see it. They charge you more, 116 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: you get less. There's also something called shrink flation and sports. 117 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: I believe the athletes who give you less and less 118 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: each year, but the difference is so subtle that you 119 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: might only Notice, if you compare film between now and 120 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: five years ago, that's Ben Roethlisberg. So the Giants saw 121 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: it with Eli Manning and they drafted Daniel Jones. The 122 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: Packers saw it with Aaron Rodgers three straight years gradual decline, 123 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: they drafted Jordan Love. Well, there was clear, clear shrink 124 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: flation from Ben Roethlisberger. And it's the Steeler's job to 125 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: watch for these very slight gradual decline lines so you 126 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: can draft the successor of valuable players at key positions. 127 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: This falls all on the Steelers. The Packers and the 128 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Giants notice those gradual declines. Pittsburgh either didn't or did 129 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: and would not acknowledge them. Okay, there are two ways 130 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: to succeed in the NFL. Pick up players at the 131 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: right time and move off them at the right time. 132 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 1: And so, just like your products at a grocery store, 133 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: you're paid as an NFL executive to see very slight 134 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: gradual declines in key players. And this is where the 135 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: Packers and the Giants have gotten it. Right now, we 136 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: don't know if Jordan Love can play. I do think 137 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, especially this last week against the Saints, I 138 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: do think he can play. They've got issues. I don't 139 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: think he's the biggest issue. Maybe a lower ceiling than 140 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: a Kyler Murray justin Herbert, But I think Daniel Jones 141 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: is not the primary issue. Offensive line is. But when 142 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: people push back on Big Ben, the best NFL general 143 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: managers find starters and Pro bowlers in the third, fourth, fifth, 144 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: and sixth round, and those same general managers move off 145 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: star players when they get to years nine, ten, eleven, twelve. 146 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: So the Steelers have nobody to blame it themselves, and similarly, 147 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: either does Urban Meyer. So let's bring in Mark Trustman, 148 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: who started as a quarterback coach for not only Howard Snellenberger, 149 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: but Jimmy Johnson at Miami, worked with Bernie Kozar and 150 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: Vinnie Testa Verdi. As I noted earlier, he was the 151 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for a handful of NFL teams, including Rich 152 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Gannon and the Raiders during their Super Bowl run, and 153 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: Gannon was the MVP two years coaching the Chicago Bears, 154 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: two time CFL Coach of the Year, a three time 155 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Great Cup champ, and people in the sport have great 156 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: acknowledgement of what Mark Trustman has done through the years 157 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: in building the confidence of young quarterback. As we've talked 158 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: about on this podcast many times, it is so hard 159 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: to be a quarterback in the NFL. You know, there 160 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: is a reason why many of the same quarterbacks over 161 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years have ended up in the conference championships. 162 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: This is yeoman work. It is intellectually, physically, emotionally draining. 163 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: And Mark is joining us. So Mark, I'm going to 164 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: run through the quarterbacks. I'm going to state my audience 165 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: knows this, my concerns, and then I'm just going to 166 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: let you go on each of them. And I want 167 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: to start with Zach Wilson. And my initial interpretation of 168 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Zach was a little small sometimes played the position a 169 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: little bit of a show off. Excellent arm, good movement. 170 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: I do worry about at times. This is a strange 171 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: word to use, but his humility playing the position that 172 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: football you are carrying a three to four billion dollars franchise. 173 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes he was a little loose in my opinion. And 174 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: the great ones, the Russell Wilson's, the Bradys, the Aaron Rodgers. 175 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: We're seeing this with Justin Herbert. The great ones are 176 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: not loose with the football. They understand the value of 177 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: every possession. So my criticism is he's a little loose. 178 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: Let's start with your reaction to that and what you 179 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: see when you see the jet Zach Wilson, Oh, I can. 180 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: I can leave this show right now because you've hit 181 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: on a lot of the But you know the one 182 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: thing I'll say about all the befree before I get 183 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: on Zach, and I'll jump right to him. I think, 184 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: what's where a quarterback? The reason why quarterbacks have shown 185 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of light the last week or so 186 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: is the play callers have actually gotten better. And you're right. 187 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: You're talking about the most complex, most dynamic, most amazing 188 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: position in all of sports. So you hit it right 189 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: and very few can do it. That's why they get 190 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: paid so much. So let me let me, let me 191 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: go to go to Zach first. Although Zach won this game, 192 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: he was the winning quarterback in the last game. I 193 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: certainly don't think he's ready to be annointed. I do 194 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: respect from the last four weeks his toughness and his resiliency, 195 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: and he has shown some big playability. But you're exactly right. 196 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: Over the time, he's shown the ability not to manage 197 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: games very well and understanding of situational football, as in 198 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: all four games he looked to make the home run, 199 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: and he at the home run first. Even in this 200 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: last game, he threw up a couple of fifty fifty 201 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: balls that could have gone either way that got him 202 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: a lot of yards. Reckless with the football over the 203 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: first three weeks, for sure, his drop back fundamentals are 204 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: extremely sloppy and inconsistent. He overdropped the first two weeks. 205 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: He was overdropping his protection at ten and a half 206 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: to twelve yards. And he really didn't show the athleticism 207 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: that I expected to see. I didn't look at him 208 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: in college, but I had heard about his athleticist and 209 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: I would just call it sufficient kind of really in 210 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: the Mac Jones. Maybe slightly better than mac Jones, but 211 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: just sufficient escapability, but not being very accurate throwing on 212 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: the run consistently. Some of the things that hurt him 213 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: over the first few weeks. His protection was horrendous. He 214 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: took a bunch of hits, which goes to his resiliency 215 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: and his toughness, but the protection was loose inside and 216 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: he was taking a lot of hits. Secondly, his receiver's technique. 217 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to even go to their ability, their depths, 218 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: their techniques had gotten to improve, and the five interceptions 219 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: that he'd thrown up to last week were a result 220 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: of all of those things. But the things he can control, 221 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: the looseness with the ball, recklessly throwing, and not understanding 222 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: the importance of being efficient. The number one job of 223 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: a quarterback a miss everything, and I learned this from 224 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: Steve Young is to protect the protect the football right 225 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: you've protected on the snap, on the on the way 226 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: to the back, and the confines in the pocket with 227 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: location a throw and exiting the pocket. And he just 228 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: did not do a very good job in those areas, 229 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: so frankly, although they won inconsistent drops. You know, one 230 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: of the things that hurts his accuracy. The best quarterbacks 231 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: the tip of the balls in the via the neck 232 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: when they get to the top of the drop, because 233 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: it minimizes inaccurate throws. So if you look at all 234 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: the greats, you know they all have the tip of 235 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: the ball because the arm motion is minimized and there's 236 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: there's less time for inaccuracy. He forced the ball in 237 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: the movement game instead of taking the flat I mean, 238 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: over the last four weeks, Michael Floor has given him 239 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: some candy store completions. Just kick the ball in the flat, 240 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, and get yourself a completion, and he's forcing 241 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: the ball down the field in the movements. I graded 242 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: him this week of the first tenth throw, I gave 243 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: him one plus. But on the other side of it, 244 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: he has shown and he'll tease us, as you well 245 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: know with the great through makes some excellent throws and 246 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: overcame a lot of hits. He had a chance to 247 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: throw a corner roll for a touchdown in the red 248 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: zone last week, and the Greats would have backed shouldered 249 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: that throw because the defender was playing the quarterback underneath. 250 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: He would have stopped him with the throw and just 251 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: really kind of hoped it, hoped it, you know, in there. 252 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: So all that being said, and I know I'm riffing 253 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: on here and I apologize for that, but you know, 254 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: it's exciting to talk about quarterbacks. There is a light 255 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: at the tunnel, but there's not enough tape to annoy 256 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: him or tell you that he's the guy right now 257 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: because there's so much inconsistency. He's got to go back, 258 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: you know. You know I've heard, well, he watches a 259 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: lot of Aaron Rodgers' tape. Well, he's not Aaron Rodgers, 260 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: and if he continues to be, you know, lose his 261 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: humility with that ball in his hand, he's going to 262 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: hurt his football team. So he's got to listen to 263 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: his coaches. Number one, he's got to take the candy 264 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: store completions. He's got to respect the ball, you know. 265 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: And he's like with a lot of these young quarterbacks. 266 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: Early on, the coaches thought they needed this quarterback to 267 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: win the game. Right now, we need Zach Wilson not 268 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: to lose the game. Now. Other quarterbacks are in a 269 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: better position to do that because they have better personnel 270 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: around them. But Zach's got to lighten it up a 271 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: little bit, and lighten up a little bit and just 272 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: start becoming more efficient. 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You 304 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: could see him getting the Patriots in and out of plays. 305 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: You know, Nick Saban's got an NFL background as well. 306 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: He and Belichick coach together in Cleveland and his job 307 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: in Miami so and he has hired NFL level coordinator 308 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: so Max running a pro system. Largely. I thought he 309 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: was very efficient. I don't see him with much escapability. 310 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: I think he's fairly low ceiling his arms. Okay, certainly 311 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: in your words sufficient. I guess my concern with him 312 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: is New England has shot not shown an ability or 313 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: an affinity to over the last four to five years 314 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: draft really high end skill players, OH line, D line, linebackers, secondary, 315 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: They've been very good at. That is a It is 316 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: a mostly i would say average set of tight end 317 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: and receiving talent, and I believe that Mac needs a 318 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: certain level of player to elevate him in that space. 319 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: So I thought his game was very efficient. What I 320 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: worry about Mac Jones coach, is that because a ceilings lower, 321 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: he will realize his ceiling more quickly than a Josh 322 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: Allen or a Kyler. He may realize it by week thirteen, 323 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: but it could fool people into believing there's another level, 324 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: and I'm just not sure there is with him, Colin, 325 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: it would be hard for me to disagree. I mean, 326 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is exactly who they thought he would be 327 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: right playing exactly the way Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniel 328 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: knew he would. He's got tremendous ability to control the 329 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You command the line of scrimmage, pirate 330 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: this prior to the snap. He's got tremendous elite functional intelligence. 331 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: He plays with a quiet mind. His footwork is so 332 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: disciplined as a you know, if you compare it right 333 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: now to Zat Wilson has drops under the gun in 334 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: the Center's ball handling is excellent. He's got continuing played 335 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: or with what football? The other night, it really did 336 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: seem to bother him. Josh did a good job of 337 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: calling plays accordingly. He plays within himself, he reads through 338 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: his progressions, he kicks out flare controls, he takes care 339 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: of the football. I mean, even the interception he threw 340 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: really wasn't his fault the other Day's extremely accurate and 341 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: he's exactly the guy they showed on tape and in 342 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: my mind on Monday night, there's there's really nothing that 343 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: you see that you didn't see at Alabama. Now, Josh 344 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: McDaniels trusts him with the ball he throw. He's not 345 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: afraid to throw the ball in first, second, or third 346 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: down anytimes he done because he trusts him to protect it. 347 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: And that's really that's really something that a coordinator man 348 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: when you can call anything and know he's he's going 349 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: to protect the coordinator's call by making sure that ball 350 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: is protected. But I think the Patriots here's the two 351 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: things I think to close out of this. The Patriots 352 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: found a quarterback who plays the position the way the 353 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: Patriots want him to play. He plays it just like now. 354 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: But I'm not saying please because he's not Tom Brady, 355 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: and it's arguable he never will. Anybody plays the game 356 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: that see the question I have Willie match up against 357 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: Josh Allen for the next ten years because that's the issue. 358 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: And the only way Bill Belichick can do that is 359 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 1: he's got to play continuity football. And then we're going 360 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: to find out over the weeks to come. And this 361 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: is what we don't know yet because Matt Jones won 362 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: so many games and not a lot of close games, 363 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: is does he have the GEF factor to win the 364 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: game in the fourth quarter? And we won't know that 365 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: for a while as they build a team around him. 366 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: But if you're a coordinator calling plus Josh joshin dans 367 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: so exactly what they would get and what they're getting 368 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: is exactly what they saw and take. And not every 369 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: coach can say that about his rookie quarterback. Let's pivot 370 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: now to justin fields. You know, Ohio State doesn't have 371 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: this great lineage in history of putting guys in the 372 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: NFL at quarterback. Some of that is because the Buckeyes 373 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: generally have much better personnel than the rest of their conference. 374 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: You know, you can run a drag route, give it 375 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: to Paris Campbell, He's off to the races running pass 376 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: per due. You know, in the stats for the quarterback. 377 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: Are you know through the roof? There's a lot to 378 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: like about justin fields and twenty twenty one. He moves 379 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: very well. He's certainly has a capable I'm not sure 380 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: if it's a plus arm, but he's a capable player. 381 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: What I am noticing he's holding the ball too long. 382 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably having difficulty reading these nfldes. That's 383 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: what it feels like to me. My interpretation is he's 384 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: just holding the ball too long. There's a little confusion. 385 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: What do you see? What do you like? What are 386 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: you noticing? Okay, so you know the first couple of 387 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: games he played, it was a disaster. It was a 388 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: daster because he got the heck beat out of him. 389 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, he really didn't get a chance. I don't 390 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: remember who it was. I think it was a previous week, 391 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: even to my recollection. But let me just tell you 392 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: where I think he is after eighteen passes a new 393 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: play caller. Last week, I was someone impressed with him, 394 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: and I wasn't impressed with him as a college player. 395 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I just got concerned about his ability to 396 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: translate to the NFL. And there's some coaches who think 397 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: absolutely opposite. That's the price we pay when we decided 398 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: to put our sign off on a quarterback. But I 399 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: was someone impressed with him on Sunday. But the place 400 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: selection by Bill Aser was really good. They ran the football. 401 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: They tried to do what I think most coordinators should 402 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: do with first year quarterbacks is run the ball, get 403 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: him under center a little bit more, move him and 404 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: play action him with protection so he doesn't have to 405 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: work about hots. Right, So I thought the place selection 406 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: over and only threw four passes in the first quarter, 407 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: and two were explosive throws, I mean big time, you know, 408 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: NFL explosive throws, and they were accurate. He's got tremendous quickness, 409 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: you know. The only two runs he had were victory 410 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: plays taken a knee, so we didn't even see his 411 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: explosiveness to make plays an extent place, which we know 412 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: he has. I saw a little more upside in him 413 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: than I've seen in Zach over four weeks. In those 414 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: eighteen passes, there's just more there. I thought he managed 415 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: to line a scrimmage well, he was decisive again. He 416 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: got some candy store completions too. By Bill Laser to 417 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: let him. But he also Bill Laser took some shots 418 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: and he made some plays with his armed up the 419 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: edge and down the middle. But here's the downside is 420 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 1: he isn't protection conscious yet. There's free rushers coming at him. 421 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: Now you can help him. You don't have to five 422 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: and six man protect. You can seven men protect and 423 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: nobody you know, seven and eight man protection is not 424 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: a panacea to get protection, but it helps eliminate hots 425 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: and free rushers to the quarterback and be more concerned 426 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: which what's going on in the third level with the 427 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: with the pattern. So um, I think there's a little 428 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: light on justin field. I want to see a little 429 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: bit more. And I will say this one. Castillo has 430 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: done a much better job with the protection over the 431 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: last two weeks because they were flawed a couple of 432 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago and he had a chance a little more 433 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: like like Trevor has had and even Zach had this week. 434 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: Zach had a chance to complete some throwing motions this 435 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: week and was able to you know, find himselves to 436 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: more completion since smart yards, he was still a little 437 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: bit too loose with the ball and back to Justin 438 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: there's there's some light there for him. Well, it's going 439 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: to be interesting to see. There's no doubt he should play. 440 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: In my mind, you draft these guys, this tide to 441 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: play as a coach's job to put him in a 442 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: position it has some success and get him ready to 443 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: win championships down the road. So that's where I see 444 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: just a little more and more late than you would 445 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: have seen a couple of weeks ago, where he really 446 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to show what you could do. Yeah, okay, 447 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: we go to Trevor Lawrence. He's made a couple of 448 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: throws that vindicate his number one pick. He's a big, strapping, 449 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: mobile kid. They're running him more than I would prefer. 450 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer got a lot of heat for drafting Travis 451 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: at N. But I think what Urban was trying to 452 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: do is get a two running back system, which, by 453 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: the way, you can see it with the Cowboys Zke 454 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: and Tony Pollard two running backs. Dalvin Cook. I love him, 455 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: but he's hurt a lot. Christian McCaffrey, I love him, 456 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: he's hurt a lot. So I see what Urban did. 457 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: He drafted a blocking tight end from Ohio State. He 458 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: wanted Travis at N and Robinson, and he wanted to 459 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: limit Trevor Lawrence to thirty throws, not forty. He wanted 460 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: this to be a very much a power offense. It 461 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: looked like to me. And then Travis at and gets hurt. 462 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: And now everybody questioned the judgment in the draft pick. 463 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: But he's made some a couple of really special throws. 464 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: I think he's a remarkable talent when you watch him. 465 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: Is his protection good? Does he have much to work with? 466 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: Do you like the scheming with him? Yeah? I think 467 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: you're you're you're on it again. I think in the 468 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: first two weeks it was really clear that Darryl Darryl Bevil, 469 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: you know on Brian Shad who I respect as really 470 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: good play callers to coaches. I mean, he's got two 471 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: of the best guys. They were calling plays as if 472 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: he was you know, Joe Namath. I mean, it's just 473 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: as if they had they couldn't win without him, and 474 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: they put him in some real precarious they were just 475 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: asking why much. And I think you see, you know, chronologically, 476 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: how that has changed over the last couple of weeks, 477 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: because in the first few weeks, very decisions that I mean, 478 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: they were Zach Wilson, like you know, trying to get 479 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: the home runs. Five early interceptions. Most more of his 480 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: interceptions were poor actually than Zas were to some degree. 481 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: During that time, he was careless with the ball. He 482 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: was forcing his interceptions reckless. I mean, it's a repeat 483 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: from Zach Wilson in the first two or three weeks. 484 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: But on Thursday, just like you said, you know, now, 485 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: now you started to see the guy that they drafted, 486 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: he got They got the ball out of his hands quickly. 487 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things I'm seeing coordinators do 488 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: more this week. You know, just because Kurt Cousins can 489 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: run all these movements to the left and Mayfield, not 490 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: everybody ken, you know, And you know, they stopped calling 491 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: a lot of these movements to the left. That that's 492 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: putting a one arm behind a quarterback's back. Not everybody 493 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: can do it. Especially early on. They started calling more 494 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: movements to the right, which made it easier to deliver 495 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: the ball. I thought the old line did a really 496 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: good job this week against the Bengal giving him some 497 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: protection and keeping him clean, and he played with a 498 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: quiet mind. I mean, I love this guy. This guy 499 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: is going to be a great player. He's got it always. 500 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: But he's got to improve his footwork into something I see, 501 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about it. I think we're 502 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: going to talk about Justin Herbert in a minute. Is 503 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: when you're six six, you have to customize your drops 504 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: because you're long legged, and if you take too big 505 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: a footwork, you're going to be late with throws. Right. 506 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is elite and he is textbook at doing 507 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: it right. And Zach is way too long and he's 508 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: not as tall, but he's way too long and very 509 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: inconsistent with his drops. Justin is very quick with his job. 510 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: Mac is textbook, Mac Jones's textbook, but he's got to 511 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: work and really organize his drops to fit route depths 512 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: and route structure. And when I found with the shotgun, 513 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: every quarterbacks a little bit different and they have to 514 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: have a language of drops which customizes the drops to 515 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: the type of throws that they're making. And you see 516 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the young guys they're late with the 517 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: quick game because their first step is so big and 518 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: the ball isn't out when it should be and the 519 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: receivers are waiting on the ball. He also knew just 520 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: kind of a couple last couple of things, like you 521 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: said in a third quarter his arm talent under pressure. 522 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: You that thrower you're talking about, he had a guy 523 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: right in his face and he stood in there and 524 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: finished the throw and took a shot right. He could 525 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: exponentially grow like Herbert has in his second year. Herbert 526 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: had a little more talent around him in his first year, 527 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: I think than just than Trevor does. But he could 528 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: exponentially grow over the next couple of years. Like Josh 529 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: Allen and Brian Dable and his staff. It's done with 530 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. So in summary, they're tremendous outside, great poise 531 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: and he can run, there's no doubt about it. But 532 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't run like some of the runners do. You know, 533 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: he's got to be able to protect and he's such 534 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: a big man that you know, you know, when they 535 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: got to protect their investment. There's a time to utilize 536 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: the riding decide, so to speak, work or the RPO keeps, 537 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, and in crunch time. But I think they 538 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: got to be careful with a guy with that big 539 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: a body. Finally, of the young guys, the rookies, Davis 540 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: Mills that Houston Texans played at Stanford was a fairly 541 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: coveted recruit, didn't get a ton of work anything. Jump 542 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: out at you, promising, what do you see. Yeah, of 543 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: all the college quarterbacks that we were talking about today, 544 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: Davis Mills is the only one I looked at and 545 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: I thought he was drafted right around the right time. 546 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: I think that he showed, you know, the ability to 547 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: run a pro offense and do it in a leadership role, toughness, 548 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: change ball, speed, everything. But but the other day was 549 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: a complete disaster. I mean, he had a chance to 550 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 1: throw a touchdown passing fourth and three on a role 551 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: pass and should have made the throw, and that's just 552 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: a gimme for an NFL quarterback. He was laid on 553 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: a boot. The Plaushan pass was a poor route, but 554 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: the corner was playing inside and it was an ill 555 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: advised throw. And then the second pick was an overthrow. 556 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: So and it was wet weather, and it was it 557 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: was Leslie Fraser's defense, and it was a lot of 558 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: a lot of bad stuff and it didn't start well. So, um, 559 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't think we should read a lot into Davis Mills. 560 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: The week before, you know, on National TV, they were 561 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: talking about his poise and playing under control and that's 562 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: more of the guy that I saw in college. So um, 563 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know, everybody, you know, we 564 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: want to see Deshaun Watson playing for the Texans and 565 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: everything to be rolling there, you know with David Kelly. 566 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: But I'm not willing to close it durn Davis Mills 567 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: after this team, but it was it was an entirely 568 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: poor performance and he didn't give you organization idea that 569 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: he was he was ready to play full time. So 570 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: I want to move to a topic. And I've said 571 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: this that you know, I work in an industry where opinions, 572 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: if they vary from kind of your usual opinions, they're 573 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: viewed as hot takes. And Justin Herbert and Patrick Mahomes 574 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: now play both in the AFC West. Herbert's a bigger athlete. 575 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: He was a better college winning quarterback. Herbert is a 576 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: four two biology major and in fact was a tutor 577 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: with other students, so you know, he's a really bright guy. 578 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: He has very little, if any injury history, big, strong, 579 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: moves well, huge arm, and he has a certain humility 580 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: he plays with that he understands the value of the football. 581 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: He has now had six three touchdown, zero interception games 582 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: in nineteen starts. The other thing is that he did 583 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: not inherent Travis Kelsey or Andy Reid or Tyreek Hill 584 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: or Sammy Watkins. He inherited a fairly pedestrian offense and 585 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: a terrible offensive line and actually had remarkable numbers. I 586 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: am not here today to say that Justin Herbert is 587 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: better than Patrick Mahomes, but the gap to me Mark 588 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: does not appear to be huge. I think Herbert, when 589 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: you consider the circumstances that he inherited, it is fairly remarkable. 590 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: The level of production so far. And just your thoughts 591 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: on those two and what you see with Herbert, Yeah, 592 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean you bring up some great points. You know, 593 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: let's just go back and start with Mahomes, because he's 594 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: such a unique player. I mean he is. He's the 595 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: coreani of the NFL. He's got the ability to create 596 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: make plays with awkward throw's extent plays And what I 597 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: think is important to note here, he's not and he 598 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: cannot be an easy guy to coach if you're into 599 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: discipline and structure like Mike Kafka is and Eric bi 600 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: Navy is and Andy Reid is. But there's a nuance 601 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: to coaching Mahomes and these guys have figured it out. 602 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: They don't corral him with the discipline that Herbert plays 603 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: with because he's got the ability to get the job 604 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: done with an uncannedy ability to protect the football. I mean, 605 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: he's been responsible. I've looked at all these interceptions. I 606 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: think there's been four the whole season, but only really 607 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: two are would have been on him. But through his 608 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: what is it three or four years now, an uncanny 609 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: ability to protect the football, And I just think there's 610 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: a nuance to how he's being coached to allow him 611 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: to be the creative player and dynamic player. Is really 612 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: impressive to me, because it's not easy when you want 613 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: structure to play, drafts and things like that, and it 614 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: doesn't kind of look the way you think it should 615 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: look to be able to coach him and let him 616 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: play as freely as they do. So I just give 617 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: them so much credit. It's not as easy as it 618 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: looks from a coaching perspective. Justin Herbert is as a 619 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: lad as it gets. I mean, he is the guy 620 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: everybody wants to would He is the dream quarterback to coach, cool, customer, poised, 621 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: he does everything right in the pocket. If I've always 622 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: felt you could grade a quarterback from the waist to 623 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: the toast, and you knew you would know exactly what's 624 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: coming down. He is a beauty to watch. I mean, 625 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: it is just it's just it's just the highest level 626 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: of playing the position that I don't know that we've 627 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: seen in a long time at such a young age. 628 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: I spoke to Joe Lombardi this morning as coordinator. You know, 629 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: Joe spent you know, he was over a decade with 630 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: Sean as a quarterback coach in New Orleans. And I 631 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: watched the tape and it was breathtaking, breathtaking colin to 632 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: watch the tape and I texted Joe and he texted 633 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: me back. I said, what you've done, such a great 634 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: job with him. And you know what Joe did and 635 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: this is just a digression. All he could do was 636 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: give credit to the quarterback coach, Shane Day. He didn't 637 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: give himself one bit of credit. But yet he's calling 638 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: those plays and it's the New Orleans offense. It's simple, 639 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: it's concise, it's clean, and it makes it really easy 640 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: on the quarterback and the offensive line. I'm not familiar 641 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: with what they've done. Personnel Wise, Justin took a couple 642 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: of hits last night, like everybody does. But that pocket 643 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: was clean early, and the pockets clean early, quarterbacks can 644 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: succeed if they get hit early. There's a residual effect. 645 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: He's accurate in the pocket. He plays with a quiet mind, 646 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: as you said, explosive arm strength, and he doesn't have 647 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's got a unique kind of athleticism. He 648 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: can find, he can move in the pocket, find the 649 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: quiet area. He really didn't have to extend to play 650 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: or run last night. But he's not He's certainly not 651 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: Kyler or Lamar. He's not even Mayfield or Tanny Hill 652 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: or Josh Allen or Jalen Hurts or Russell. He doesn't 653 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: have that kind of athleticism. But I gotta tell you 654 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: a textbook Wise, he's as good as any of them. 655 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: And it's really he has mastered the pocket with footwork. 656 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: I mean, Bill Walsh would be smiling in his grave 657 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: right now because that's what it looked like years ago. 658 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's changed and that's okay, but that's what 659 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: it looked like, and it's it's just a pleasure to 660 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: watch two final questions. John Gruden. I like John I 661 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: think the I think he's important for the league. He's iconic, 662 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: he's outspoken. I like smart offensive coaches. They have been 663 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: to me the surprise in the league. Gus Bradley has 664 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: elevated their defense and their pass rush. Specifically, when you 665 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: watched the schemes of the Raiders and Gruden, my concern 666 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: Mark was Owa's not his passion or his lack of aptitude. 667 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: It was leaving the NFL for ten years is like 668 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: leaving Silicon Valley. It's so fluid and ever changing. Would 669 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: he be outdated? I mean, there's ten years out of 670 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: the NFL. It doesn't even look the same on television. 671 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean, good god, ten years ago we huddled. So 672 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: what are you seeing with the Raiders? Like or don't like? Yeah? 673 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, I could only say I've known Jen for 674 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: twenty five years and we were both coordinators. He was 675 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: in Philadelphian and I was in San Francisco, and we 676 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: used to talk a lot in the offseas at the 677 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: Combine Exchange ideas. You know, he was out for ten years, 678 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: but he watched every bit of tape that and more 679 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: probably than any coach. And he's got coaches out his 680 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: staff that have been in the league a long time. Um, 681 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's done some great thing with 682 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: Derek Carr. I mean I think that, you know, offensively, Derek. 683 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: You know Derek carrs And I didn't see his side 684 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: of the ball last night. I didn't watch that. I 685 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: just watched justin this morning and I didn't I didn't 686 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: stay for the game last night. But I think he's 687 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: done a great job with Derek Carr. I think they've 688 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: showed some explosiveness. Gus Bradley, you know, I think is 689 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: a is a just brings great added value because John 690 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: is going to focus on offense and he can leave 691 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: it to Gus and Gus will get it done. So 692 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: it's only four weeks, they're what They're three and one now, 693 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: is that right? And I just think I think there's 694 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: more coming. But I don't think John is outdated as 695 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: a coach. I think he understands the Generation Z. You know, 696 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: Generation Z isn't really Generation Z, they're Generation why Why? 697 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: And I think John can get up in front of 698 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: a room and explain to his team why they're doing 699 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Has there been a quarterback that we 700 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: haven't discussed or perhaps we have, but I doubt it 701 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: because I'm going to ask you, is there a quarterback 702 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: you've seen so far that has jumped out to you specifically? 703 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: Somebody you know? There's Um, you know Aaron Rodgers throws 704 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: the best back shoulder throw in the league and he's 705 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: been doing it for years. Um. We also know Russ 706 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: and Wilson. Kyler Murray, by the way, is I think 707 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: he's taking steps. You could probably break that down. But 708 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: is there a quarterback, an individual that you look at 709 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: and has really jumped out to you? Yeah? The wild 710 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: factor for me is Kyler Murray. I mean they've done 711 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: They're running a very simple offense. He is a really 712 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: good drop back pastor. He's got great feet. He is 713 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: a pastor. He's not a flinger. There's a couple guys 714 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: that are flingers. You know this guy, that ball is tight. Um, 715 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: he's accurate, he's fun to watch. You know, they played, 716 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: I would say They're offense has jumped out on me. 717 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: They might play faster or as fast as any team 718 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: in the league in my opinion. They got two running backs, 719 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: they're physical. I thought, you know, the game they played 720 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: the other day was team and culture defining and I 721 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: came out earlier in the year and said, in the 722 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: third year with Cliff and Kyler, they had to make 723 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 1: a move. They are making a move. And Kyler Murray 724 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: to me, he's the one quarterback of the younger generation 725 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: that I think is making kind of you know, Josh 726 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: Josh Allen kind of move in what I think is 727 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: his third year. Yeah, you know, I said this. He 728 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson, former baseball players, have two things in common. One, 729 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: they're both excellent sliding to avoid hits. They've you know, 730 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: they're baseball players. Lamar Jackson still hasn't figured it out. Secondly, 731 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: they both have a motion. They throw a beautiful ball, 732 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: uh sort of a tear drop ball on deep throws. 733 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a coincidence. Mark. I think 734 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 1: their baseball background probably has something to do with both assets. Yeah, 735 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean the homes the same way. I mean, there's 736 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: I just love watching Kyler because here they've built some 737 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: structure around him. But when he extends plays, I mean, 738 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: I think they're running an they've taken three years. I 739 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: think the play calling is excellent. They really focus on 740 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: the running game. With the two running I think it's 741 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: Edwards encounter. You know they're focusing on the run game there. 742 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a really good That was last 743 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: year's number one defense. They cut up, you know, on Sunday, 744 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: and they just play so fast and they play confident. 745 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: And Murray is playing explosively outside the pocket, which you'd expect, 746 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: but he is very, very good in the pocket in 747 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: terms of drops, frees, progressions, kicking the ball out, awkward throws. 748 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: He's a joy to watch. Mark. This was a real 749 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: pleasure for me. You have such great passion for what 750 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: you do. And I've always said I was a lousy 751 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: high school quarterback, but I love the game so much. 752 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: I love watching it. I sit on Sundays and Monday 753 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: nights and just take notes and I kind of nerd 754 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 1: out and I just love this. This was thirty minutes 755 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: of me getting smarter. And I love your strong opinions 756 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: on this stuff. You have a great passion for it. 757 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know where you'll land, or if you 758 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: want to land anywhere, but this was a real pleasure 759 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I think I feel the same way 760 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: you do Collin about it. You know, when you stand 761 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: behind a quarterback in practice and you watch him throw, 762 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: you go, how the hell did he do that? It's 763 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: just I mean, it's all the chaos of what goes 764 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: on in his space. How he can find a guy 765 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: on the right memory gland, you know, for forty yards 766 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: through everything that he has, so to look at it, 767 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: it's an amazing game. And there is nothing nothing like 768 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: being in a quarterback room during the week prior to 769 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: a game. And I think you've you've given your audience 770 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of an idea through through your words 771 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: and your fashion. How important that is. By the way, 772 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and Sam Darnold have a style a DNA 773 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: that is sort of reckless. The two things I've always 774 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: questioned whether you can coach a player out of is 775 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: a indifference if they don't love the game, they don't 776 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: love the game, and be reckless. You know, if you 777 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 1: had brothers rough housing from the time you are four 778 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: to fourteen, it's it's hard to have to make you 779 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: a finesse player. When I watch Wentz and Darnold, I 780 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: think Matt Rule's doing a good job with Sam to 781 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 1: take some of that reckless out. He has designed plays. 782 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 1: They are schemed open. These are easier throws for Sam, 783 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: but in your years of watching quarterbacks, can you coach 784 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: reckless out of a quarterback? You know? It takes work 785 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: and you know you can do I think I think transformation. 786 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: Will you know you can transform a quarterback? You can? 787 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: The tape doesn't lie. You know this is you know, 788 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 1: when you start showing tape of Aaron Rodgers or Peyton 789 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: Manning or Drew Brees, you know you can. The tape 790 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: doesn't lie. The visual part of it. Cannock some sense 791 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: into a guy, you know pretty quickly, but you got 792 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: to get him early. You know. I worry about Zach 793 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 1: last week because he thinks he can do next week 794 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: what he did this week. And if he gets a 795 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: chance to set in the pocket and his feed are 796 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: right and complete a throwing emotion, he can do it. 797 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: But if he starts throwing that fall up and I 798 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: call him hope throws, you know, they may not result 799 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: the same way they did last week. And there were 800 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: a couple of excellent, excellent throws, but there were a 801 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: couple that he got away with that he didn't get 802 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 1: away with the prior three weeks, and he probably won't 803 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: him the next two. So I'm hoping that he'll come 804 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: around because the coaches are giving him a chance to 805 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: do better. Mark, absolute pleasure. Thank you so much, Thank you. 806 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, go to the YouTube channel, Twitter, Instagram, 807 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: The Volume, Sports Rate Review. Subscribe. You know the drill. 808 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: We'll talk soon. The Volume