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Speaker 1: So Christ and Cavalari. It's getting a lot more attention

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Speaker 1: than I think she probably needs. She's kind of annoying me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm kind of I don't know. Her presentation

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Speaker 1: the person that I when I got a I was like,

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Speaker 1: you don't dare, if you don't call me seventeen times,

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Speaker 1: but after a fresh date, you, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Are you jealous that she's dating a new man?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't, honestly, like, Look, do I think she'd

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Speaker 1: She's very pretty, very small. Actually, I don't think I'm

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Speaker 1: really her type. I think she's more of a Morgan

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Speaker 1: Wallen country bumpkin like bass pro shop wearing hat wearing guy.

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Speaker 1: You're a country king, you I am a country king. Book.

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Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. You have some boots. You're absolutely

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Speaker 1: right about that. I do have a hat that says

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Speaker 1: like something about duck contenting or something that Riley Green

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Speaker 1: gave me. So, I mean I am sort of I

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Speaker 1: am country and Western, to be honest with you. But

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Speaker 1: in the morning in a very accessible mainstream way. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't have any car heart, but Jason does, so

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Speaker 1: he can probably he can. We can take and borrow

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Speaker 1: me some, as they would say. They would say borrow

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Speaker 1: me some. That's what they say in this seth Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: where I'm going with this is she's dating a guy

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Speaker 1: who's very young. What did we decide? She's in her

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Speaker 1: forties and he's in his early twenties. Is that we

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Speaker 3: Was it?

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get this right because

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Speaker 1: we're obviously journalists here. He's a member of which TikTok group,

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Speaker 1: the Montana Boys with the.

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Speaker 1: That tells you everything. Mark says is his name though,

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Speaker 1: and he has apparently already met her children. She has

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Speaker 1: kids with Jay Cuddler. Well, they probably got a playdate, right,

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Speaker 1: and here's a plug of her Let's Be Honest podcast,

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Speaker 1: the Hills, Alum said that they met before even going

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Speaker 1: he met my kids. He actually met my mom too,

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Speaker 1: because my mom was babysitting my kids, so it threw

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Speaker 1: him in the mix. It's the real first guy they've

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Speaker 1: I've been good at separating my dating life from them. Okay, okay, Look,

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Speaker 1: I was once that kid. And it's a famous story,

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Speaker 1: My dad tells it best. I think he's told it

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Speaker 1: on the air before. But I was eight years nine

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Speaker 1: He knocks in the door and I answer, and I

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Speaker 1: And obviously I'm obviously very glad they didn't in many ways.

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Speaker 1: I was very defiant. I was very defined about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not hard to find. If you wanted to find me,

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Speaker 1: you know, they lived a wildlife in their fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties.

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Speaker 1: only contributing my DNA to the CIA database, which is all.

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Speaker 1: I've been familiar with situations where people have dated people

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Speaker 1: because relationships are are fickle, especially these days. I'm with Kaitlin.

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Speaker 4: There was no need for him to come in and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I put this on him though,

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. She's blinded by this new love thing. You know,

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Speaker 2: Maybe he went to help him with their TikTok, you

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Speaker 1: Let me help you? Oh? Or first Dame Basis with

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Speaker 1: Kristan Cavalari's children. Yeah, okay, Honestly, I hate to say this.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I just I don't know like

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know, and I just feel.

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's just way too soon. Well, it can

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, do you have kids? I mean, were you

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Speaker 5: I do have have children, they're a little older now,

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Speaker 5: But if it's somebody who I'm potentially or interested, and

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Speaker 5: Bonding and introducing their two different things. If they just

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Speaker 1: You know, we're distant high school kids. She's dating was

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Speaker 5: what's going on in mom's life, not necessarily that hey,

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Speaker 5: need to know all that. That's not relevant to the conversation.

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Speaker 5: But you wouldn't make your kids so like they aren't

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Speaker 3: Who you're around.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but kids aren't stupid, Sunshine. Like if they, if they,

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, he want to knocked at my door and

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Speaker 5: we got a sell pone. You could have sent me

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you want to knock on my door and you dog?

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Speaker 5: I sure when they came in the house and walked around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Montana boys, Sunshine, thank you. Have a good day,

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Speaker 1: all right, You'll be great. I kind of want to

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 1: What's your story? Thanks for calling for listening.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Okay, I'm telling from not Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of that. We love you for North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm actually gives a call with the guy that

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Speaker 3: two years of not dating anyone. Yeah, I just studiating

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Speaker 6: I wasn't was nice to me or my kids anyway,

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Speaker 6: And you know, by introducing them a new person was

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Speaker 1: Him. So you broke up with You broke up with

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Speaker 3: No, the kids, right right?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and Caroline, thank you so much. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you called you. No. No, so she chose her children

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Speaker 2: I hate to judge, but this one I feel pretty

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Speaker 1: I also feel like she's sharing it because she's she's

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Speaker 4: Even posting him like I would never even post social

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Speaker 1: Well, she got like the necklace with his initials and like.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't to do And.

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Speaker 4: For this reason, because there's no concrete I might switch

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Speaker 4: out Big Tim's tomorrow and it'll still be Big Tim

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Speaker 1: You know you're not going to introduce Big Tim to

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Speaker 1: to those kids that he might be fifty percent responsible

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