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Speaker 1: Second date update.

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Speaker 2: One of the keys to successfully dating is just to

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Speaker 2: actually give a crap and try.

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Speaker 3: That's a big key.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's too much work.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, don't try too hard, because that comes

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Speaker 2: off desperate. You can't try too little either, though, because

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Speaker 2: then you seem like a jerk just doesn't care. Try

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Speaker 2: goldielocks it and try medium till it's just right.

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Speaker 3: And one of our.

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Speaker 2: Listeners, William, emailed the show saying he's worried he may

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Speaker 2: have tried too hard on his date. William, you didn't

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Speaker 2: channel your inner Goldilocks for this.

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Speaker 5: I tried try too hard.

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Speaker 4: I didn't wake up in a strange house with three

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Speaker 4: bears failure.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can't undo anything that happened, but why don't

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Speaker 2: you tell us about it a little bit.

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Speaker 3: What's the name of the woman that you went out with?

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Speaker 5: Her name is Stacy?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so where'd you meet her?

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Speaker 5: I met her online? You know, at first, I was

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Speaker 5: actually pretty intimidated just by her profile pictures.

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Speaker 4: Oh, because she's like really attractive to you.

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Speaker 5: Well, that for sure, but also she seems to have

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Speaker 5: kind of an extravagant, sophisticated, cultured life, more so than

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Speaker 5: myself I'll say, okay.

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Speaker 4: Why did she put in her pictures to like to

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Speaker 4: pick that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there was like pictures of her on a sailboat

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Speaker 5: with what looks to be her very well addressed family,

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Speaker 5: maybe in Greece somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh my gosh.

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Speaker 5: She was, you know, at soccer games in Europe.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's a match, sir.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't expect you to be fancy enough to

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Speaker 2: know that that's amazing.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I was really intimidating, which I actually told

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Speaker 5: her that in the initial messaging. Oh did Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty honest. Maybe to the fault, but.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well she obviously liked it because she responded, alexis.

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Speaker 3: If a guy writes to you, I'm intimidated by you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Is that not a strong move?

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Speaker 5: No? Not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, a football in Europe doesn't cost that much.

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Speaker 4: It's like, don't do that until Okay, I'm just saying

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Speaker 4: take it together. I'm just saying I take it back.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 3: But the bottom line is she responded.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, she responded, all right, she said, ha ha,

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Speaker 5: you should be.

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Speaker 3: So what did you do for a date?

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Speaker 5: I made dinner reservations, nice little spot. I got dressed up,

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Speaker 5: even borrowed nice shirt from my roommate.

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Speaker 3: Oh everyone shares.

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Speaker 4: Did you normally do that, like share fancy clothes?

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Speaker 3: You have a roommate life. I used to have a

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Speaker 3: blazer and we had like a community blazer. Like yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's like, did that pay off for you?

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Speaker 5: I mean I was feeling good, So that's helpful, I think.

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Speaker 5: And she told me I look nice and that she

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Speaker 5: she looked incredible.

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Speaker 4: Did you tell her that was scary too? How good

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Speaker 4: she looked?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean I I reiterated how intimidated I was.

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Speaker 3: I imagine, like cowering at everything, like just.

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Speaker 4: To eat.

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Speaker 2: We're playing it up for you, man, I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: were fine.

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Speaker 5: I think so. I mean she was really nice for

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Speaker 5: the most part. I mean I saw that she loves

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Speaker 5: chocolate off on her profile, so I thought i'd bring

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Speaker 5: her a gift, and I brought her almond rocca.

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Speaker 1: Cute.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was the best option.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of a grandparent's chocolate.

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Speaker 5: But you know, at this store and it looks nice,

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Speaker 5: it has like gold foil. I thought it looked kind

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Speaker 5: of fancy, but she said it's not really chocolate, which

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Speaker 5: I didn't really I've never had really eaten myself.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of toffee, A lot of.

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Speaker 2: Harsh to say when someone's giving you a gift that's

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Speaker 2: not actually take us to the highlights of the date.

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Speaker 3: Were the good moments?

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Speaker 5: Well, during dinner I wanted to get to I had.

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Speaker 5: I was so curious, you know, from her profile, and

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Speaker 5: I kept asking her a lot of questions. And I

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Speaker 1: Is that possible maybe.

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Speaker 5: If it starts to feel like somebody's given you the

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Speaker 5: third degree interrogating you. It wasn't really my attention.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, if there's not like a real natural

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Speaker 3: Don't want the date to come off sounding like a job.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, tell me. Can you think of one question that

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Speaker 4: went too far?

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Speaker 5: I asked her if she's ever been engaged before.

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Speaker 3: That date? Okay?

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Speaker 4: And what was her response?

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Speaker 5: Well, because we talked a little bit about the house

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Speaker 5: relationships and she had, uh was dating a guy in

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Speaker 5: Spain for a long time, and and that's how it

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Speaker 4: It's kind intense.

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Speaker 5: I was not trying to pry though.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the end of the day.

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Speaker 5: What happened at the end, Well, we had the almon

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Speaker 5: roka for dessert, which was nice at the restaurant.

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Speaker 4: And you just opened up the package right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, because they asked if we wanted any of the dessert,

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Speaker 5: she said she wouldn't that hunger, But I said, oh,

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Speaker 5: I brought this for you, and that's when I.

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Speaker 4: That's when she turned up her nose. And so it's

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Speaker 4: not really chocolate.

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Speaker 5: She did say that, But then we did actually enjoy

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Speaker 5: it together, and I hope she thought it was funny

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Speaker 5: that I tried, even though failed that even bringing chocolate.

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Speaker 3: Pretty yeah, all right, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, well I'm going to give it a B plus

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Speaker 2: so far.

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Speaker 3: That's my that's my grade on a curve.

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Speaker 5: Have you heard from her, Well, I don't really heard

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Speaker 5: from her, but it ended okay, like we hugged, we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Brooke does with her children though, so

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Speaker 2: you can't really judge by that.

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Speaker 4: But and they complain about every food item I give them.

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Speaker 2: So the good news is there's a lot of room

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Speaker 2: to improve from here, and we're going to try and

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Speaker 2: do that when we come back and do your second

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Speaker 2: date update.

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Speaker 1: Right after this second date update if.

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Speaker 3: You're just joining us.

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Speaker 2: We're on the phone with William, who went out recently

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Speaker 2: with a world traveler named Stacy. Stacy has studied in

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Speaker 2: the universities of Europe. She's dated the men of Spain

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Speaker 2: and cheered for the football clubs of Liechtenburg, where instead

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Speaker 2: of cheering hooray there, they cheer and reverse. Oh really,

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Speaker 2: can you say horay backwards? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: classy because it's European. Yeah. At the end of the

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Speaker 2: second date, when we get Stacy and William to meet

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Speaker 2: up again, but obviously she is clearly a world traveler.

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Speaker 2: He was intimidated by that, which led me to the question, William,

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Speaker 2: why would she want to go out with you in

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Speaker 2: the first place.

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Speaker 4: Jeff came off so hard.

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Speaker 2: He said to himself that she's so worldly, she's so traveled.

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Speaker 3: What would be the appeal for her.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm a nice guy, and I'm open to going

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Speaker 5: on more traveling ventures. I mean, I've traveled a little

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Speaker 3: Oh, you traveled the world.

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Speaker 4: Come on, Jeffrey. Not everybody can afford that. But I

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Speaker 4: think what it would be appealing is he seems like

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Speaker 4: a really curious guy. Right, Like, that's who someone who

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Speaker 3: Website for curious men. I think that's a totally different issue, Broke.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I think you sound totally fine.

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Speaker 4: By the way, William honestly interested in her adventures. He

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Speaker 4: asked a ton of questions.

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Speaker 3: Have you traveled at all? Before? You not travel? What's

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Speaker 3: your travel experience?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean I've been out of the country.

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Speaker 5: I've gone to Cabo twice. Oh wow, I've driven to

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Speaker 5: Scottsdale before.

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Speaker 4: Scottsdale, Wow, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's something to work right here. It's not quite

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Speaker 2: you know, the Vienna Opera house, but it's close.

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Speaker 3: So yeah.

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Speaker 4: The positive is she could show him all these places. Jeffrey,

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Speaker 4: you just have to convince her.

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Speaker 3: And he can show her the golf course at Scott's Stay.

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Speaker 4: Let's just get her on the phone.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to talk to this worldly lady. Let's get

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Speaker 3: her on the phone right now. Here we go. You're

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Speaker 3: ready to speak English.

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Speaker 5: She does speak English, right, I think she speaks a

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Speaker 5: couple of languages actually, but English.

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Speaker 3: On your date is going to go really.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and see how it goes here. I'm

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Speaker 3: down the number right now. Hello, Bonjoel is the Stacey.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry for.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Lisa French. I won't try.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Stacey, I'm hoping. This is a radio show called

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Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 6: Can I help you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we need a lot of help, I really do.

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Speaker 2: But mostly we're looking for help for one of our

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Speaker 2: listeners named William, because he's a guy who rumor has

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Speaker 2: it you went on a date with recently.

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Speaker 6: What is this about a date?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is It's a segment we do called Second Date

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Speaker 2: Update where our listeners go out with someone and if

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Speaker 2: they're not hearing back, or if they feel like they're

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Speaker 2: getting ghosted, they can email us and we'll try and

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Speaker 2: reach out to that person for them.

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Speaker 4: It's a real North American continent type thing.

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Speaker 2: M Yeah, sorry for being weird about all the North

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Speaker 2: America stuff. It's just we we heard that you're very

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Speaker 2: well traveled.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I am well traveled. Who is the guy? Or

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Speaker 6: which date was this? And then on a couple recently.

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Speaker 3: It was William? Oh yeah, William oh William?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys went and got dinner together the other night.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we went out to dinner.

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Speaker 4: Okay, did you enjoy it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what you want from me here. It

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Speaker 6: was it was a nice time.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Well, I guess is what we want is honesty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just we're trying to help out William a

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Speaker 2: little bit because he doesn't understand why there hasn't been

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Speaker 2: a second meetup.

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Speaker 4: He really liked you a lot and thought that maybe

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Speaker 4: they saw some potential between you two.

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Speaker 6: I just honestly, he just wasn't cultured enough for me.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know, he just he lacked manners.

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Speaker 3: Oh, lacked man Well, hold on, are we nitpicking? Did

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Speaker 3: not like have his fork in the right area of

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Speaker 6: He didn't have he doesn't have good etiquette.

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Speaker 4: Okay, any example.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, an example is he kind of yelled out when

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Speaker 3: Stick to like the whole room or what do you mean?

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Speaker 6: Yes, he just he got up and he says, I'm

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's bad ettiquette.

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Speaker 3: Well, excuse me.

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Speaker 4: I think he was just trying to tell her where

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Speaker 6: Well, he could have just said, excuse me for a minute.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, I'll be right back.

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Speaker 4: Have a lot higher standards than I do.

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Speaker 3: I know, I think that's a little bit picky, at

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Speaker 6: No, we're at a very nice steakhouse and he waved

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Speaker 3: Okay, is that is that rude?

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 4: I love that bread.

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Speaker 3: I know, if the bread's good, you want more.

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Speaker 6: Well, it just seemed a little low class to me.

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Speaker 6: He would have waited till they came to refill you know,

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Speaker 2: Nice restaurant, it's going to check on you all the time,

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Speaker 4: Nobody lives by these rules anymore.

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Speaker 2: They're like, well, that's brook, but it's not okay when

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Speaker 4: Beautiful steak dinner. Right, he's the one that picked it,

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Speaker 4: He's the one that took you there.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the restaurant was great. It's just I mean, there's

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Speaker 6: because there's other people around, and it was just really

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, excuse me, excuse me, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: This is William.

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Speaker 5: We were at an outback steakhouse. It wasn't a Michelin

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Speaker 5: star type of restaurant.

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh sorry, hold.

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Speaker 3: On, hold on, hold on, William.

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Speaker 2: I need to let Stacy know that William has been

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Speaker 2: waiting on the other line listening to this whole conversation.

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Speaker 3: He's wanting to talk to you.

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Speaker 6: It was, Yes, it was an outback steakhouse. It was

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Speaker 2: You're so world You've never been to an outback, which

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Speaker 2: is not worldly you what do you mean you think

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Speaker 2: that an outback steakhouse is a very like fine dining establishment.

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Speaker 3: It's a big propliment for any outback people listening.

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Speaker 6: It's not that it was like the best steakhouse I've

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Speaker 4: Waitit wait, did you did you look around at the

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Speaker 4: other guests. You can wave down all the free bread

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Speaker 4: you want there.

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Speaker 6: I have traveled a lot, and not all restaurants are

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Speaker 6: five star, you know, Michelin restaurants, But they're beautiful and

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Speaker 6: there's culture. So I thought that that was just an authentic,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't really.

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Speaker 4: There's definitely culture outback, but it's not like high society culture.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, honestly, I'm just happy he didn't take

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't recommend googling out back. It would be you.

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Speaker 4: Should try Applebee's. It's this little quaint place. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: great Long Island girl.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to give you too many ideas.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I don't even know what you guys are talking about.

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Speaker 3: Okay, don't worry about any of that.

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Speaker 2: We should be worried about is William, who had a

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Speaker 2: great time with you the other night. Restaurant and etiquette aside,

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Speaker 2: and what he really wants is just to see you

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Speaker 2: one more time and give it another chance.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what, if you do agree to

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Speaker 5: go on a date with me on the second day

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Speaker 5: and night, I really do hope you do. I will

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Speaker 5: take you to a really nice place and I will

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Speaker 5: show you that I have proper etiquette. I am a

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Speaker 5: class d guy. I know how to behave depending on

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Speaker 5: where I'm at. And Wow, I want you to give

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Speaker 5: me a chance to show that to you.

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Speaker 4: Wow. It was a gentleman response if I have ever

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Speaker 4: heard one.

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Speaker 2: Well crafted, very thoughtful. And all that's left now is

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Speaker 2: stacy a yes or no. If you want to go

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Speaker 2: out with him one more time, we'll pay for it

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Speaker 2: and tell us if you're curtsying while you're doing it.

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 6: You know what I I don't do charity. I'm okay,

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Speaker 6: Oh you don't do charity.

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Speaker 4: You want to be charity like that good manners and da.

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Speaker 2: You really are worldly, aren't you.

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Speaker 6: I do charity. I don't take charity as.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: Man, I am sorry, dude, Yeah, yeah, he can't win

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Speaker 5: them all. I guess I'll give it another crack out there, wave.

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Speaker 4: Your hands around and ask for help again.

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Speaker 1: Rook Jeffrey in the morning,