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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, what's up.

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Speaker 3: It's almost famous. It's Jess Ashley right now because Ben

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Speaker 3: is stuck in traffic. So if you see him, just

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Speaker 3: like pop into this interview, know that he's late to

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Speaker 3: arrive but always appreciated when he's here. The other person

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Speaker 3: that I have in the room with me digitally is

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Speaker 3: Rachel Rekya.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Rachel.

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Speaker 5: Hi, ash It's fine. I like it better home me

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Speaker 5: just do us too anyway, Love you, Ben?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, why do you say that?

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Speaker 5: The last time meet you and Gabby did that girl

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Speaker 5: chat one was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've

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Speaker 5: ever recorded.

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Speaker 3: We did, we had some good tea in that, but

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Speaker 3: you know what we didn't have And not to like

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Speaker 3: make this interview not about you right off the bat,

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Speaker 3: because I want it to be about you because you're

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Speaker 3: about to be a star on Bachelor of Paradise. But

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Speaker 3: at that point Gabby was dating her girlfriend Robbie, and

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Speaker 3: nobody knew in that room I'm assuming except for.

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Speaker 4: You, Yes, yes, Gabby.

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Speaker 5: It was kind of like very under wraps for a

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Speaker 5: long time, which I love that they did. They kept

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Speaker 5: it kind of just in between them too. But yes,

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Speaker 5: very exciting just met Robbie. Actually she is so incredible,

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Speaker 5: so very happy for them both.

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Speaker 3: Okay, nice, So how did Gabby come to you saying

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Speaker 3: that you had a girlfriend after you guys both had

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Speaker 3: a big pool of men to date together.

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Speaker 5: Ye As, So she had just gotten off of Dancing

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Speaker 5: with the Stars tour, which was just a whirlwind, and

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Speaker 5: we were out to dinner, we were catching up, and

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Speaker 5: she just kind of mentioned that she had been like

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Speaker 5: thinking about it, that she had.

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Speaker 4: Gone on a couple of dates.

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Speaker 5: And I think at this point her date was set

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Speaker 5: up with Robbie, but I don't think she had gone on.

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Speaker 4: So we were all just super excited, so happy for her.

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Speaker 5: I think discovering that part of yourself is so huge,

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Speaker 5: so just like being able to be a part of it.

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Speaker 4: I just am so happy for her.

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Speaker 3: So there's some people out there saying that like Colton dated,

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Speaker 3: you know, he had a whole season of girls to date,

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Speaker 3: and then like the girls could have felt possibly, you know,

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Speaker 3: let on when they find out that he's actually interested

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Speaker 3: in men years later. So within a year, the guys

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Speaker 3: of your season find out that one of the girls

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Speaker 3: that one of the girls that they were dating ends

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Speaker 3: up to be interested in women. Do you think there's

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Speaker 3: a double standard on how the reaction went down between

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Speaker 5: I think it's a little different. Well, actually, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I would assume Colton is only interested in men because

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Speaker 5: you didn't like a where is dated men, she was

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Speaker 5: engaged to a man. I think she will always have

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Speaker 5: a part of her that still is interested in men.

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Speaker 5: But I think right decided to explore something she maybe

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Speaker 4: And I really feel like it's been.

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Speaker 5: All positive across the board from the guys I have

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Speaker 5: do you think about it?

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Speaker 3: No, I think that I think that it's really nice

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Speaker 3: happy that she's just doing her thing. Yeah, I'm happy

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Speaker 3: when you ever she's with whoever, you know, whatever their sex.

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Speaker 5: Right, because I've seen comments too and they're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 5: the whole season was a waste, Like it was a

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Speaker 5: waste no matter what, just because we both didn't end

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Speaker 4: So I guess it really doesn't matter who she dates.

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Speaker 3: After speaking of your season being a quote waste, which

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Speaker 3: you guys got plenty from it, even if you didn't

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Speaker 3: get fiances.

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Speaker 2: That's stuck, Tino has.

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Speaker 3: Said recently, and he's actually been quite quiet, so I'm

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Speaker 3: surprised to hear this headline from him. Maybe we're misinterpreting it,

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Speaker 3: but he said that he is planning on watching your

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Speaker 3: season A Bachelor in Paradise. How does that make you feel?

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Speaker 4: Well, that wasn't the full quote, Okay, what is it?

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Speaker 5: No, he said he said he will be watching, but

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Speaker 5: he will not be watching me.

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Speaker 2: Woo.

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Speaker 3: So he's just gonna press fast forward through you.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe it's just to close his eyes

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Speaker 5: every time I come on screen. I was very shocked

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Speaker 5: to see that. Honestly, it feels like so much time

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Speaker 5: has passed. I mean, I talked to you the last time.

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Speaker 5: We know he's moved on, he's dating, so happy for him,

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Speaker 5: like wanting him to be happy, so kind of hearing

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Speaker 4: So yeah, a little disappointed. Honestly, that is super.

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Speaker 3: Weird, Like why would he even be invested enough to

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Speaker 3: watch the show if he's going to be fast forwarding

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Speaker 3: through you? Like, why does he care so much to

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Speaker 3: you know, difficulty of fast forwarding through you on a

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Speaker 3: show that like you're gonna be very intricately a part of.

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Speaker 5: He said he wanted to watch Tyler and Avon, who

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Speaker 5: you know may or not be on the be We'll see.

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Speaker 3: I think we don't see them in previews.

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Speaker 5: I mean there is one fully about Tyler's apps, Okay,

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Speaker 5: but never you never know who's gonna show up.

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Speaker 3: We think we know that Brayden shows up, and we

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Speaker 3: know that they placed you guys next to each other

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Speaker 3: at one of the recent tell alls.

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Speaker 4: Why with Braiden? Yeah, who knows. Everyone's gonna have to

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Speaker 4: tune in and find out.

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Speaker 3: We recently also heard from Wells regarding Bachelor and Paradise

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Speaker 3: cast that this cast has more former leads than anyone

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Speaker 3: all I can think of cast wise is that Rachel

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Speaker 3: is a former lead. And then he told us we'll see.

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Speaker 3: So so I'm looking at your and it's kind of telling.

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Speaker 3: Is the entire Bachelor of Paradise cast released yet? Or

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Speaker 3: are we going to have somebody who's not on the

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Speaker 3: we've seen thus far.

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Speaker 5: I think that this season is definitely stacked with bachelorettes.

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Speaker 5: I think the more bachettes the better, honestly. But who

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Speaker 5: is going to stay to date? Who's just coming down,

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Speaker 5: you know, to deliver a date card. That's going to

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Speaker 5: be something that everyone's going to have to tune in

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Speaker 4: I for sure I am there to date.

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Speaker 5: But everyone else will have to wait and see what

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Speaker 3: What encouraged you to go on this on Bachelor in

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Speaker 3: Paradise because before Becca Kuferin kind of well, she got

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Speaker 3: was there any convincing that needed to happen with you

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Speaker 3: or were you pretty much like, yeah, I love this experience,

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Speaker 3: We're just gonna do it again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So I this all started out as something where

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Speaker 5: they were kind of like, would you be interested? I

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Speaker 5: and we start getting closer and closer to it, and

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Speaker 5: I start thinking about it as more of a possibility.

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Speaker 4: But it's actually funny because you.

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Speaker 5: And Ben were the two people who found out first,

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Speaker 5: because at the.

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Speaker 4: Time I was still keeping yeah, and the last time

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Speaker 4: we were together, you guys were like, are you gonna

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Speaker 5: And Ben actually had an hour drive back with him

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Speaker 5: and he really convinced me.

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Speaker 4: I was so on the fence.

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Speaker 5: And then Becca was the one I ultimately talked to

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Speaker 5: that really convinced me to go. And there's just so

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Speaker 5: much like success obviously you Jared Dawson, like, how can

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Speaker 5: you not take that opportunity if it's in front of you,

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Speaker 5: especially because mine it wasn't even like I got to

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Speaker 5: the show even ended. So it was just I figured,

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Speaker 5: if if this is gonna work for me, it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be paradise.

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Speaker 4: And you guys all convincing and here we are.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm so happy about that because I'm just such

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Speaker 3: a fan of the shows and I'm also just such

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Speaker 3: a fan of the experience. Yes, it like led me

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Speaker 3: to absolute wonderfulness with my family, today, But it's just like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. The growth that happens when you've partaken

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Speaker 3: just like always seems worth it to me. And I

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Speaker 3: know that like other lums may not feel as passionate

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Speaker 6: They like want you back.

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Speaker 2: You have to do it.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be so great, and you know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, yeah no, but like exactly what you said,

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Speaker 5: I feel like I feel so strongly about it and

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Speaker 5: doing it three times, it was such a different experience

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Speaker 5: each time, and you probably felt the same way each time.

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Speaker 5: You do it so different and I'm so so happy

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Speaker 5: I did it.

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Speaker 4: My favorite experiences A part is franchise.

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Speaker 6: Honestly totally agree.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you are also in Paradise with a few

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Speaker 3: guys from your season. I know that in our last

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Speaker 3: interested in revisiting anybody from your cast. However, when you're

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Speaker 3: you kind of lose all space and time, did feelings

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Speaker 3: reemerge for anyone in your past?

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Speaker 5: So I wanted to go down and I know the

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Speaker 5: last time we talked to Mike, you know, I would

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Speaker 5: never do it again, but I wanted to really give

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Speaker 5: not the same person that I was when I was

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Speaker 5: the bachelorette, So these guys have probably changed so much too,

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Speaker 5: not that they needed to, but being able to meet

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Speaker 4: And I mean, maybe.

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Speaker 5: Not to give too much away, but I think there

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Speaker 5: might be a little bit of a rekindling, maybe with

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Speaker 5: an ex flang, So we'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I was definitely super excited to see some

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Speaker 5: old faces down on the beach.

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Speaker 3: Cool good answer. We like to hear that because it

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Speaker 3: gets us excited. Was what was the guy that you had,

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Speaker 3: like on your list that you wanted to meet down there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I actually didn't have a list, which.

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Speaker 5: I I know, I thought the list was like not real.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was just kind of like people were like, oh,

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Speaker 5: down just fully like like wanting to meet everyone and

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Speaker 5: It was just a hard transition from like batcherette onto

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Speaker 3: Well, what are you looking for and a guy there

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Speaker 5: I think mainly I really really wanted to meet someone

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Speaker 3: People are always curious about the living conditions in Bachelor

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Speaker 3: How did you deal with that and like what was

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Speaker 5: So I, of course have had all my friends go down,

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Speaker 4: Couple of days. I don't know how, but I.

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Speaker 5: Just, you know, tried my best to embreak elements and

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, all right, So you you rap Paradise a

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So for me, I went back to teach in between

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Okay, that's so exciting. I was worried

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Speaker 3: But you're actually getting back into it. So when are

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Speaker 5: So I have a really good friend that lives down

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Speaker 5: I are going to go back up and do reviewing

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Speaker 4: So he's gonna take me back up very.

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Speaker 5: Soon, within the next week or so, and get back

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I promise I didn't. I just like needed

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we know that Pilot peat was not in Paradise,

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Speaker 3: although we've all said on multiple podcasts we think that

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Speaker 3: And I don't know why I'm just hypothetically just coming

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Speaker 3: you and Pilot Pete both led a date on Bachelor

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Speaker 3: in Paradise where it was like girls team boys, team whatever,

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Speaker 4: Planes you're facing there, actually is a pilot Peat in

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Speaker 3: Other pilot Pete two point oh, two point oh.

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Speaker 3: Do we like this new pilot Pete romantically?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Who knows? I mean, who knows?

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Speaker 7: I think I do after all the good things I've

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Speaker 4: He's a great guy. He's a really great guy, and

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Speaker 3: I make you guys have a lot in common.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and sometimes I feel like that could be a

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Speaker 2: Rachel's good to see you. It's good to be here.

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Speaker 4: He's Ben.

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Speaker 5: Who would have thought after our car ride, me and

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Speaker 5: Ashley were just talking like you guys were the first

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Speaker 2: Well, no, that's not true. That's not true at all.

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Speaker 7: In fact, you were still questioning in our car ride

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Speaker 2: I think you had already made your decision.

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Speaker 7: You just didn't want to like tell us, yes, you're convinced,

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was so on the fence.

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Speaker 5: I really wanted to go, but I kept thinking like,

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Speaker 4: Is it gonna work?

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Speaker 5: Is it gonna be just like embarrassing that I like

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Speaker 5: go again and if something didn't work out, But I'm

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Speaker 3: Okay, Rzel, this is such a hilarious vanity question. But

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Speaker 3: I know that the internet is taken quite the opinions

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Speaker 3: on your eyebrows being bleached, and you always have comebacks

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Speaker 3: for them. What's your ultimate comeback?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 5: The ultimate comeback? Well, someone said I looked like Boltimore

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Speaker 7: Wait time, understand this is this is where I have

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Speaker 7: why or what is happening, Like, why would you your

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Speaker 4: I just bleach them.

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Speaker 2: OK's just that it's just the thing.

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Speaker 7: I mean, That's what I'm saying, is I have I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I just bleach them to match the blonde.

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Speaker 5: But normally when people have blonde hair, they bleach their

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Speaker 4: But I think, do you, girl, I just keep doing

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Speaker 3: Do you kind of love just snapping back at people.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's funny. I'm like, why not, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Rachel.

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Speaker 7: I've known you since your time on the show, and

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Speaker 7: I would say this, I don't want to speak for you.

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Speaker 7: I've thoroughly enjoyed our times together, and I feel like

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Speaker 7: when I first met you, I felt like you wouldn't

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Speaker 7: I think it would have really bothered you. I think

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Speaker 7: and you're just you got to build some Cali skin.

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Speaker 7: So can you talk to me a little bit about

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean it's been crazy.

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Speaker 5: I think I've went through like every phase you can

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, it's always going to be difficult,

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Speaker 3: So I'm so happy about that, and I vibe that

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Speaker 3: very much. I concur with what Ben said for sure,

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Speaker 3: to change topics on something very scandalous, Are you willing

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Speaker 4: I am all right, I don't know. I don't think.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it doesn't know.

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Speaker 3: No, Ben probably hasn't been scrolling on Instagram over the

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: We saw you with Clayton get pretty chummy at our

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Speaker 3: event in February, and it looked like you guys like

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Speaker 3: almost could have rekindled something. Right then you were having

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Speaker 3: like deep conversations. You shake your head, but like you know,

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Speaker 3: you got friendly in the in like a true friend way.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like the first time you guys got

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Speaker 3: together since the dumping, and this past day or so,

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Speaker 3: there has been something that's come out about him. He's

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Speaker 3: been served with paternity papers of a paternity lawsuit from

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Speaker 3: an alleged pregnant X And it's not just that she's pregnant.

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Speaker 3: She's pregnant with twins.

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Speaker 2: You you're kidding. Wait, I'm I really, I'm just.

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Speaker 5: What allegedly Well, when I heard about it, I just

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Speaker 5: think that's probably one of the craziest things I've ever heard. Again,

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Speaker 5: I guess we don't know completely what had happened, but

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Speaker 5: I just hope everyone you know, and figure it out

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Speaker 5: and so definitely insane.

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Speaker 7: So we won't make Rachel get completely put on the spots.

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Speaker 7: I don't think she knows anything more than we do, right,

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Speaker 7: But I do have questions for the two of you.

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Speaker 7: So can I cause I don't know about this, Can

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Speaker 7: I play or just try to understand?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Of course, Rachel. This is what I do with Ashley

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Speaker 7: in most situations when it comes to pop culture or

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Speaker 7: just anything happening in the world.

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Speaker 2: World. Okay, what is a paternity lawsuit?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so without reading it, what I'm assuming it is

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Speaker 3: is that, like she's pregnant with twins, and she's allegedly

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Speaker 3: claiming that she's slept with Clayton in May, and he

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Speaker 3: is denying that they had any sexual encounter.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 7: So he has came out publicly and commented on this

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Speaker 7: and said he's not that he's denying, and.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not publicly, but like within the two of them,

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Speaker 3: and like so like in the paperwork, it's saying that

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Speaker 3: he's denying it.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So he's so in the paperwork, she's claiming that

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Speaker 7: it's his kids and that he said I'm that I

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Speaker 7: wasn't a part of this, and now she's saying, well,

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Speaker 7: you're going to have to be a part of this.

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Speaker 2: Is that how this plays out? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yes, So apparently on August first, she filed the lawsuit,

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Speaker 3: So it's been a while alleging that she's pregnant with

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Speaker 3: twins after engaging in sexual activity with Clayton on May twentieth.

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Speaker 3: The the kids are due in February twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: and she's saying that she hasn't been with anyone besides

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Speaker 3: him since March of twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm trying to okay, and then the sources

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Speaker 7: of this are who this isn't like I don't know

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Speaker 7: the ones that we find at like grocery stores. These

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Speaker 7: are legitimate sources or this. We do know for certain

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Speaker 7: that this lawsuit has been filed.

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Speaker 3: It's via page six, and page six usually has you know,

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Speaker 3: it's usually pretty reliable. I'll continue with the with the

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Speaker 3: quotes here, it gets quite scandalous. So this is PG

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Speaker 3: almost r this is kind of our He's saying that

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Speaker 3: they only had oral sex that night.

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Speaker 4: Oh I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 2: That's not how you make kids. I will say that

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Speaker 2: just for an it doesn't know.

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Speaker 3: The court filing includes screenshots of alleged tax from the

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Speaker 3: reality star, including the messages that include quote, I don't

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Speaker 3: believe you for a second. I legitimately hate you right now.

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Speaker 3: You have lost your mind. And I hope you think

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Speaker 3: about how terrible this is that you would subject me

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Speaker 3: to this. My personal hell would be having to be

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Speaker 3: part of your life.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so this just came out. What I'm understanding is

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Speaker 7: the story is breaking. Rachel knowing Clayton having some sort

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Speaker 7: of relationship with Clayton.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about this.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess my first thought is, this is

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Speaker 5: obviously something that's very public. I've seen a lot of commentary,

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Speaker 5: a lot of people, you know, taking sides. I know

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Speaker 5: Clayton does struggle with his mental health, so obviously that's

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Speaker 5: something like I thought about first, like hopefully doing okay.

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Speaker 5: No matter what the situation is, obviously we're all going

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Speaker 5: to kind of be seeing the development on it. I

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Speaker 5: just hope everyone is okay, because this is definitely like

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Speaker 5: a very crazy, crazy situation that I said, you can't

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Speaker 5: even make up.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just to add into the story, basically, what we're

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Speaker 3: waiting on is him to take a paternity test, which

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Speaker 3: the lawsuit has said that she's offered more than fifty

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Speaker 3: times in runing to pay for one for him, but

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Speaker 3: he is unwilling to participate.

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Speaker 7: Oh my, I you know, I don't know if this

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Speaker 7: is gonna come off crazy, I feel, I mean, I

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Speaker 7: I don't know enough about this situation to really have

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Speaker 7: any opinion whatsoever. But you know, what initially reminds me

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Speaker 7: of is like the moriy Show when they'd be like

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Speaker 7: you are the father or you're not the father, and

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Speaker 7: everybody celebrates or like that. That's kind of what I

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Speaker 7: feel like in my mind, that's what's coming to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course it is. Oh is that fair? Is

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Speaker 2: that fair?

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Speaker 7: Because that's the only that's the only like tangible example

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Speaker 7: that I have of this happening.

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Speaker 2: Is that crazy? Am I speaking like wild here?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 4: And I feel like you're not the first one to

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Speaker 4: have made that reference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I like, yeah, The Bachelor girl chat has

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Speaker 3: been blowing up. My seasons group chat has re emerged today.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of gifts. This is crazy.

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Speaker 5: The what I just really hope everyone's okay, because this

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Speaker 5: is just yeah, very very you.

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Speaker 7: Know, you know, Rachel in uh, however long we've been

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Speaker 7: doing this podcast, the Bachelor world has never ceased to

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Speaker 7: give us stories, good, bad, and different. They've never no, never,

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Speaker 7: And so with that being said, it always gives us stories.

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Speaker 2: Rachel. We hope that you give us a story.

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Speaker 7: Of love and peace and joy and happiness on the

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Speaker 7: beach in Mexico and onto the future. We hope you

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Speaker 7: are following Sue with the trends of the past. We're

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Speaker 7: leads fine love on the beach in Paradise.

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Speaker 4: Amen. Hopefully we'll see goodness Grace. Yeah, well, we'll have

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Speaker 4: you on soon.

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Speaker 3: But until then, I've been Ashley.

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Speaker 2: I've been Ben, and I'm Rachel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah there you go, all right, bye, see you guys.

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Speaker 2: See Rachel Bye.

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