1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. Okay, Lindsay Cruz is here. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: She is the executive director of a c M s 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: a c M Lifting Lives. That's kind of a mouthful, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: I know it is. It should just be called Lifting Lives. 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: But we you know, we need the a c M. Well, 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: of course, Well, actually a lot of my listeners I'm 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: sure are familiar with the a c M, which is 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: the Academy of Country Music, just because we have a 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: lot of country music fans listening. But can you tell 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: us a little bit about what Lifting Lives even is. 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: This is actually the first that I'm hearing about it, 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: which I'm shocked because I live in this world. I'm like, 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: how did I miss this? Yeah? So we are the 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Philanthropic Arm. You know you heard that, and we have 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: been um operating probably since like the eighties, um as 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: like the Academy of Country Music is Charitable Arm. But 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: and then in two thousand and seven, I think we decided, 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: let's rebrand and let's become our own name. So it 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: became the a c M Lifting Lives. And what we 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: do is we harness the power of the country music 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: community to provide aid and times of need, which I 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: can talk a bit about UM with a focus specifically 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: on health related issues. So are awesome. You know colleagues 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: across town UM the music education and we focus on 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: music therapy. Okay, So that's that is how actually we 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: got connected because I've been doing well. It's first of all, 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: it's Mental Health Awareness Month this month, or was it 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: in May but we moved out of that because we're 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: in June now, But that was when we first started 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: this conversation. And you know, on the podcast, I do 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: a lot of conversations with mental health professionals or just 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: in general talking about my journey with mental health. And 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I think it's such an important topic. I think it's 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: something we all face. And then we're really seeing that 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: kind of exacerbated after the pandemic and people are saying, 37 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: wait a second, like I'm not okay, and we're finally 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: seeing that publicly be an okay topic to talk about. 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: So have you guys sort of shifted your narrative since 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: the pandemic or like what's happened in this community since then? Well, 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: it's interesting that you asked that so I think I 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: think a team lifting lives, and I mean, I just 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: want to speak frankly, I think a lot of for 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: for many people, they didn't know what we did. You know, 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: they we weren't probably very well branded, and we weren't 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: very good at probably publicizing what we do as a 47 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: filmthropic organization. But for years we've actually been funding organizations 48 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: that help people with mental health UM services. So we 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: probably the first time we ever funded Porter's Call, which 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: provides direct services UM, that was back in sten We've 51 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: been working with Music Health Alliance for many years, so 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: we've always been sort of in the space, but we 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: never really talked about it. And then we operate a 54 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: relief fund, so and that and that also has been 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: kind of quiet. So when someone in our community, you 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: have to prove that you've been working in the country 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: music community for over two years. If someone faces like 58 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: a serious financial hardship or a medical issue and they 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: just cannot they can't get by financially, they can apply 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: to our fund and we would pay their bills for them, 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: basically depending on the amount of grant that they that 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: they needed. And we've been doing this for like over 63 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: ten years. But again I don't think people really knew 64 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: we did it. So when the pandemic happened, we realized 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: we're in a position to help people. I mean, we 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: have Kimberly Chapman of a little big town. She's on 67 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Lifting Lives board. I mean, she told me she was 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: on a bus on Wednesday night and got a call 69 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: from their manager and another bus and said, you guys 70 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: just turned around, like we are, we're shutting down. So 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: for Kimberly, of course, she's in a position to be 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: like I can go home. I'm gonna go home and 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: be with my kids, and I think financially like I'll 74 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: be okay. But it's all that like ecosystem of people 75 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: that's set up, you know, the dry the buses that 76 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: do the rate, you know, the sound check and hang 77 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: the lights, and they were all just out of work 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: like that. And so we decided that because we're in 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: a position with our emergency Relief Fund to distribute grants, 80 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: why don't we just make open this up just to 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: anybody who's been affected by the pandemic. When we announced 82 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: we were opening our COVID Response Fund, it was just 83 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we were getting applicate hundreds of applications a day, 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: and we we are lucky enough we had some very 85 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: smart investment advisors on the Lifting Lives board that excuse me, 86 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: were had created a reserve account for Lifting Lives, so 87 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: we had we were sitting we were in a financial 88 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: position to help people. So we thought, this is the moment. 89 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: The chair of our board at the time said, why 90 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: are we saving this for a rainy day? Like this 91 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: is the it's it's pouring rain. It's then, so we said, 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: we're going to tell up into our resources and we're 93 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: going to help people. And again people were just like 94 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: bus drivers audio engineers just said, I don't you know, 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: like I don't know my next paycheck is gonna come, 96 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm getting really worried. I mean I have to say, 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: at first, I should I should change that because what 98 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: happened was at first I don't think anyone could foresee 99 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: what was going to happen. So people were saying, gosh, 100 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: I think, you know, if I could just get a 101 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: little help for a couple of months until it's all 102 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: like you know, blows over in two months. So we 103 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: we gave out a million dollars like right off the 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: bat um, and people were kind of like, oh, I'm 105 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: going to get back on my feet, thank you lifting lives. 106 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: But when we saw that this was going to continue, 107 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: we reopened our fund. We well, we basically raised a 108 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: bunch of money, so we were we did we actually 109 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: did something with Brothers Osborne. They did like they did 110 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: a zoom um um they did a zoom concert for 111 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: us and you know, raise something like thirty But but 112 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, we were just doing all these fund raisers 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: to just try to like replenish our fund. So when 114 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: we re reopened the and it was a different people 115 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: were you know, it was a different story. People were saying, 116 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: I am financially ruined first, but second, like I don't 117 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: know how I'm going to recover from this, Like this 118 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: is my life, these road you know, the road family 119 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: is my life. And I'm sitting on a couch right 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: now like contemplating my life, like I feel it like 121 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: a failure. I'm I'm connected to this and I don't 122 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: know what to do. You know, we don't know what 123 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: to do. So people were saying financially and then the 124 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: next thing they were saying was mentally, they're just they're 125 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: they're going down a drain. So we decided the board, 126 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, the Board of Lifting Lives and the Academy 127 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: of Country Music. You know, we decided we have the funds, 128 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: so why don't, you know, let's just not send people 129 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: on their way with a check for two thousand dollars 130 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: and say good luck. Let's say we're still here to help. 131 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: What else do you need? So that's when we started 132 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: providing people with these grants to help with them, you 133 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: know that whether they get a therapist that they really 134 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: like and we're helping pay that bill, or they need 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: to be connect did with a mental health service provider 136 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: and then we would help in that way as well. Yeah, 137 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: you know, it's so interesting. I actually, um, I've spoken 138 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: an event for the c m A, which is something 139 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: they have a similar thing going on, and um, they 140 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: asked me to speak because I've publicly talked about like 141 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: having to take a break because of just extreme burnout. 142 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: But the interesting thing I use the word burnout, and 143 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: that's sort of weird coming off of a pandemic environment 144 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: where like you're saying everything went away. But what they 145 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: reiterated to me was when I told my story, it 146 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: was an interesting thing to come back or try to 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: come back to work when things did start to open 148 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: up just a little bit, um and we were all excited, 149 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I think exactly like you're saying, like, oh, I just 150 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: need this help for just a minute. You know. I 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: was able to get a p p P luckily, so 152 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: that helped me get through. But like, what I think 153 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: people don't understand about this industry in general is that, 154 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: like it disappeared, our whole world revolves around touring, and 155 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: that goes down to like what I do, which is 156 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: hair and makeup and styling stuff. But people aren't doing shoots, 157 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: or we couldn't do shoots they didn't have the money 158 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: to do them, so everything went away. And what you know, 159 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: you look at like entertainment and think it looks so glamorous, 160 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: But we're just hustling the same as everyone else. And 161 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: if you're a freelancer like me, like the bus drivers, 162 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: the crew, that everything we don't get paid unless we work, 163 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: so to not work for a full year is devastating. 164 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: And what happened to me was like when I was 165 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: coming back into the work being so excited about that, um, 166 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: actually the overwhelm of what I had been carrying for 167 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: the year of the pandemic that we couldn't work really hit. 168 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: It's like it didn't it was like a delayed sink in. 169 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: And I'm hearing that from a lot of people. It's like, 170 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: we're coming back to work the overwhelm of actually the 171 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: hours that we do work, and like the stresses of that. 172 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: It's like you're so out of practice. Your body is 173 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: like whoa, whoa, whoa, what it um? But then you're 174 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: also coming out of the intense stress of like financial ruin. Um, 175 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: how am I going to get by? How am I 176 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: going to pay my bills? I know they had like 177 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: a lot of the crew members were having to go 178 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: to like food banks, they couldn't even buy food, and people, 179 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know this stuff like this is the part 180 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: of our industry that people do not know anything about. 181 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: So can you speak to that a little bit, Like 182 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: are you kind of experiencing that? Yeah, I mean, God, 183 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: that breaks my heart. I mean I get emotional about 184 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: it still to this date, because I still feel like 185 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: we we like we just constantly kept trying to like 186 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: respond to what people needed, and we actually about this 187 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: time last year, we partnered with three restaurants in Nashville 188 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: and they said that they would do like a ten 189 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: dollar meal for people, and we you know, that takes 190 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: a lot of strength to be able to say, like 191 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to accept that this meal. We when we 192 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: were you know, because we have all these scipients in 193 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: a in a database and you know, we we had 194 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: hair and makeup people, we had stylists, and we had 195 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: everybody who's part of this like community. Um, when we 196 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: emailed them and said, you know we're doing uh, we're 197 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: doing this partnership with Sunda in Nashville. Um, they're going 198 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: to provide a meal like on Monday night from six 199 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: to eight just you don't you know, you can go 200 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: to this entrance and it was like unit. People just 201 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: responded said I'm going I have like and because Sunda 202 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: was like a nice meal, was like are going to 203 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: food banks, but like they were making just like a 204 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: very simple like pasta you know, Asian pasta dish or something, 205 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: and and everyone just they accepted it. You know, they 206 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: were like I need it and this is kind of 207 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: a nice night because like the food is still a 208 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: little bit better. But there were the food bank. It 209 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: was just the incredible amount of humility it takes, probably 210 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: to to walk up and take that when you know, 211 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: like you're, you know, you're you're a member of you 212 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: know band that has you know, ten thousand people cheering 213 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: you on at on the stage, and to have to 214 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: shift to that is I just can't imagine what you know. 215 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: And for me, I mean you talked about it. I 216 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: talked about it too. It's like we were always in 217 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: such a response mode that I'm now like two years later, 218 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: like finally kind of taking my own mental health journey seriously, 219 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: like I have to check out. I mean, I just 220 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: was on the phone with the Academy of Country. I'm 221 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: still like emotional. We're talking about it. I was just 222 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: talking to our CEO and he just told me today 223 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: he's like I truly need a break, Like I need break. 224 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: He's like, tomorrow, I'm hoping I can just shut off 225 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: because you know, it doesn't really ever stop like for us, 226 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're constantly working and and so you know, finally, 227 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: for me, it's all kind of really starting to to 228 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: like hit me like I should have been taking care 229 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: of myself this whole time too, you know, but I'm not. 230 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: But now it's not too late, Like now is the 231 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: time I have to do it. UM. Luckily the fun 232 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: like people are not UM, people don't need as much 233 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: financial support, So it's for me. I keep trying to 234 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: get the word out, like our fund is still open, 235 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: so Kelly, like, if you know someone who still like, 236 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: send them my way, because we still have money that 237 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: we can give out to people. But thankfully we're not 238 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: getting as many applications because I truly do think people 239 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: are getting back on the road at the residual you know, 240 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: stress from that those two years or a year and 241 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: a half. I think it's really affecting people. And I'm 242 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: so happy we're talking about it. Yeah, and I think 243 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm really glad that you brought up the topic of UM, 244 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: maybe the humility that comes with having to say, like 245 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: I need help, because again, our industry is one that 246 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: is super glamorized and UM, I know that. When I 247 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: was speaking at the other event, it was very much 248 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: like one of my biggest points was my identity has 249 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: been so tied in to this job and UM, so 250 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: when it went away, it wasn't even just these factors 251 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: of stress. That was one piece of it, that we're 252 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: so big and not knowing when things are going to 253 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: come back, and then they would come back and then 254 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: they would go away again, and so it's like it 255 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: was literally just the biggest mind scramble all the time. UM. 256 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: But the other pieces is when you're sitting on your 257 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: couch worrying about all that stuff, you're also like and 258 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: who am I? Like? Who am I? It's it's it 259 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: was the most interesting um experience of just like completely 260 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: feeling like your identity went away and then sitting with 261 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: yourself to to even recognize that, like you don't even 262 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: know yourself without what you do, which isn't actually who 263 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: we are, you know. But I think this is an 264 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: easy industry to really tie yourself worth and your own 265 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: um identity. I keep using that word, but that's the 266 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: only thing I can think of, but like to what 267 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: you do, and that has been a journey. I'm grateful 268 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: because I have tools and I have a really strong 269 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: community that's helped me through that. But I think a 270 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: lot of people are also questioning everything because of that, 271 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: because it's like, well, now we've realized everything can go away, 272 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: and so like, what can I really hang my hat 273 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: on at the end of the day, And is this 274 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: what I want to put so much energy and time 275 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: into And so you're having all these other things and 276 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: that just that's where the mental health piece of it 277 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: really does come in. I think is finding the tools 278 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: getting yourself on or the right footing. And I'm so 279 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: glad that you guys can provide financial support if anyone 280 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: needs that. Um. But then yeah, like asking yourself the 281 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: hard questions. And one of the things that I love 282 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: that you guys are doing is interviewing different artists in 283 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: the community. Like we've mentioned the brothers Osborne. Love them. 284 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: We always talked about them on the podcast because they're 285 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: good friends of ours. But John recently did a really 286 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: great interview with you guys and talked about his own 287 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: mental health journey, and he mentioned like that he had 288 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: been contemplating suicide and just got really deep with it. 289 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: And I mean, I've heard those stories and he's mentioned 290 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: a lot about his anxiety. But like, I think that 291 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: people associate again, if you are rich and famous or 292 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: you are an entertainer and you seem very successful, you 293 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: can't have problems like that, or that you don't have 294 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: problems like that. So why are you guys really going 295 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: into this video journey? What have you seen with that? 296 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: It's totally happened so organically. I wish I could say 297 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: like this was some like well thought out, you know, 298 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: a year of planning. It wasn't that at all. It 299 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: was we knew we were going to make more of 300 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: a bigger announcement about opening up our fund to help people, 301 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: and rather than it being you know, a press release 302 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: and on our website, oh yeah, here's a grant, you know, 303 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: we wanted to make it a little bit like it's 304 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: okay to come to us, like you can be anybody, 305 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: you could be at any level in this like journey, 306 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: but we're here to help, like and we're going to 307 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: figure it out together. Because again I've said this year, 308 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: I said to you in an email prior that I'm 309 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: not a mental health expert at all. This is what 310 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: I have heard from our recipients. I've heard from artists, 311 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: and we're in a position that we can help people. 312 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: So we were thinking through ways to just elevate the 313 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: conversation a little bit, and we thought, well, what if 314 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: we got artists to actually talk about it. And John 315 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: was one of those that I mean cat like sidebar, 316 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: I love him too. They're just good people, are just 317 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: good people like I just like I'm jealous. I'm gonna 318 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: be friends with them, but maybe one day, don't. His 319 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: managers Randy and I know her, you know, pretty well, 320 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: and I called her up and I said, we're thinking 321 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: about doing this And it wasn't even a hesitation and 322 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: it was yes, John would love to do it. And 323 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: the response has been amazing. So we came up with 324 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: like thirty different questions, just questions that are like what 325 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: do you do to take care of yourself? Like what 326 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: was the hardest part of last year? Like what are 327 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: you looking forward to? And so we just asked him 328 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: it was kind of gonna be like five minutes, five 329 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: questions in five minutes, and then we decided to name 330 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: with the check in because we want, you know, we're 331 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: checking in with people. So we we we provided the 332 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: questions and we kind of just sent it out and 333 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he chose five or six questions 334 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: to answer, and the goal, you know, the goal of 335 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: the project was just too kind of try to reduce 336 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: the stigma mental health and illness for music lovers, but 337 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: also for people in our community to know that we 338 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: we can, we're here to help. And he just said, 339 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: I mean, when I got that video back from his manager. 340 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean I was, I mean I was sensitive personally, 341 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: what was wrong? Oh my god, this is going to 342 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: really help people, Like, yeah, this is powerful stuff like 343 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: he is talking about like he's not being shy, and 344 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: he said something in it that I'm just like, I'm 345 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: obsessed with. He said, the cost of admission of life 346 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: is pain. And I don't think he came up with that, 347 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: but he talks about it. And he said, you have 348 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: to get you have to yield at to get to 349 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: a better place. And I mean, I just it's totally 350 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: sticks with me. So to me, I I interpret that 351 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: as we're all going to feel pain. It's and it's okay, 352 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: and you're no one's living life having joy every day 353 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: one you know, one d percent unless they just just 354 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: a really great drugs or something I write like, but 355 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: the you know, having that pain is just you know, 356 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: and then knowing that there's some there's going to be joy. 357 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: And he said you could it could be a day, 358 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: could be weak, it's a season. And to hear him 359 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: talk about that is just so great. So then we like, 360 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: as I was talking to John's team, then I started 361 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: talking to I ran into Lindsay. L actually at a 362 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: country thunder um at festival and started telling her a 363 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: little bit bout and she said, oh, absolutely, I want 364 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: to do this. And then it's it's like it's snowballed. 365 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean whatever. Since we announced it on Tuesday, people 366 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: we've had probably five artists teams say can we do it? 367 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: Can we do it? So we're just gonna keep rolling 368 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: it out. I mean again, there's no major like there's 369 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a moment at the end like 370 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: this is what we accomplished. It's just we just want 371 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: people to keep hearing about it and being able to 372 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: look about it. Yeah, And I love that because I 373 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: think what you just mentioned about the piece of John's 374 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: I love that part two because it is it's a 375 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: part of the human condition to have pain, right, and 376 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: we have I think this was a problem before the pandemic, 377 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: and maybe this is getting a little better because we've 378 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: had this collective trauma. But we live in a culture 379 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: that is pleasure seeking constantly and so whatever that means, 380 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: and I think that's why we see so much addiction, 381 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: That's why people are so out of touch with their 382 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: emotions because we're just completely shutting it off to only 383 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: feel pleasure, and that isn't being a human being. You 384 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: can't actually feel true joy without feeling the pain too. 385 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: Um Or that's how it's worked in my life at least. 386 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: So I'm happy that we're having the conversations to be like, hey, 387 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: like pain is okay. You don't need to go medicate 388 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: it away, but you do have these resources, and it's 389 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: okay to say that you're in pain and to ask 390 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: for help, and to have a community that you can 391 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: go to in a safe way and have these conversations. 392 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: So I think it's so interesting and helpful to see 393 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: these people who we just assume would never have pain 394 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: because they have these amazing lives and careers, and you know, 395 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: you just assume someone like that would have it all 396 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: figured out. But what I was saying to you in 397 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: the email earlier today even was like if Naomi Judd 398 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: taught us nothing else, if her life experience, I mean, 399 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: ending in suicide recently taught us nothing else, It's that 400 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: you could have everything in the world, all the money, 401 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: all the fame, all the success, and it can't change 402 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: any of the pain that you're feeling internally. That's not 403 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: going to fix it, right, I mean it's so it's 404 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: it can be so intimidating to to take even up 405 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: first step to say I'm going to see a therapist. 406 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to talk to someone about it. Um. 407 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: I mean even when I make my own even when 408 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: I make my own appointments, it's like I I end 409 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: up waking up that morning like you know what, I 410 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: don't really I'm fine, everything fine, I'm just gonna cancel. 411 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna postpone it because there's something in me probably 412 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: that's like I'm a little scared to know, like to 413 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: kind of dig deep to know what's going on because 414 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm I feel like I have to be on the 415 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: surface so much with like my work and what I'm doing, 416 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: and it's like every time I go leave the office, 417 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: it's like, oh my gosh, like I'm so glad I 418 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: did that because I just figured something else out that 419 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: I could probably do that It's gonna help me like 420 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: get through a moment that's you know, I'm having a struggle. 421 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: But the Naomi Judd, I don't know what it was. 422 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a I'm not an astrologer either, 423 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: but there was something about that weekend that and when 424 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. It was heavy and 425 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: I felt at my own personal heaviness. I don't even 426 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: know what it was. And it's like when I got 427 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: that news, we were just about to announce this like 428 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: days later, and it's I struggled because it felt like 429 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: does lifting lot does look like lifting Lives is trying 430 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: to like capitalize on something or truly the moment that 431 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: we should this is? This is why we're doing this? 432 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: Right if this woman who seemingly has everything and she's 433 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: about to embark on a tour with her daughter, does this, like, 434 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: this is why we have to do this, because there 435 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: if she's doing she's feeling that way, there's a million 436 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: other people in this world that are probably feeling that 437 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: way too. Today that weekend, I was at in New 438 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: Orleans at Jazz Best and my best friend is a manager, 439 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: and she was with me and got the news and 440 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: was supposed to go to the Country Music called Fame. 441 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: Like we were flying back early so that she could 442 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: get to this event at the Country Music Call of 443 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: Fame where the Judd's got inducted. And it was crazy 444 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: because I'm like, it was literally the day before and 445 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: you're thinking, what, why would you. It doesn't it up, 446 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. But that's how mental health is 447 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: and none of it is rational. And so that's why 448 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: it is so important to be having these conversations, to 449 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: say these things out loud, to say the stories that 450 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: are happening in our own heads out lout, because if 451 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: they live there, it's so I mean, that's my most 452 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: dangerous spot is to get back in here. You know, 453 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm pointing to my head for you guys listening, um, 454 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: But to me it was like the quintessential example, like 455 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: you're saying of just like this is exactly why we 456 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: have to be doing this, because she has everything right here. 457 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: The tour is about to start, she's about to be 458 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: inducted into the Hall of Fame and literally the next day, 459 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: and that didn't stop whatever narrative was happening in her 460 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: head was tragic. It was from for me, like hearing 461 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: that news and processing it and realizing that the Country 462 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: Music Hall of Fame induction was the next day broke 463 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: my heart into a million pieces, thinking this woman just 464 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: she just couldn't, like I think Ashley Judd said it, 465 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: she just couldn't make it to the next thing because 466 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: the pressure of it all the pressure of the tour. 467 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows what God to her, but it did, 468 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: and it just was so tragic to think about what 469 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: could have been going on in her head. But I'm 470 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: sure we all have had moments like that were like 471 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: can I keep doing this? Like yeah, I just want 472 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: to go to sleep, you know, or I just to 473 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: do but I'm just tired, like I don't want to 474 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: think about anymore. Yeah. Um. Well, and I say this, 475 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: I want to be very clear because I'm not sitting 476 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: here being like oh wow, wow, rich and famous people 477 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: like It's not like that. It's just like I really 478 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: have this um calling to normalize these conversations. And also 479 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: just there's this thing in me that just feels this 480 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: sense of connectedness to everyone in this world, no matter 481 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: who you are, no matter how rich, no matter how famous, 482 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: no matter how impoverty you are, Like we're also nected. 483 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: And I kind of want to take away these barriers 484 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: that we have. Um that you know, the rich and 485 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: famous are different than someone who lives in the projects, 486 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: like we're not. And so there's there's something really important 487 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: about us talking about this and helping each other, um 488 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: and really understanding that we're all in this together. Like 489 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: I love that saying, and I think there's some songs 490 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: about it, but that are just like we're all walking 491 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: each other home, you know, like this is it's we're 492 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: all supposed to be here to help each other because 493 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: there is pain and there's joy, But how do we 494 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: help each other during the dark times? Yeah, I think 495 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm it's like it's it sounds like such 496 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: a weird thing to say, but I had the I'm 497 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: so grateful that I was able to read all of 498 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: these applications that came in from people because it was 499 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: all walks of life and I just felt so connected, 500 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: like I wanted to reach through my computer and hug them, like, 501 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't. I had to say, so, you know, 502 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: you have to keep some distance because this is their 503 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: life and they're asking they're they're asking for support. I can't. 504 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: I can't email that person directly and be like how 505 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: are you doing to say, you know, it just wouldn't 506 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: be like that person. They're asking for the help and 507 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: they need it. But I have so much gratitude for 508 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: hearing people's stories because it just makes you also just 509 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: put things into perspective and you learn so much from 510 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: them too. I mean I was being taught lessons by 511 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: reading people's you know, how did the pandemic affect you? 512 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: And just reading you know, how they're trying to be 513 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: still being a good mother, they're still trying to take 514 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: care of their parents, or they're trying to you know. 515 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I got a lot of people that were saying, like, 516 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: I just I need to pay my vet bill, you know, 517 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: and I mean resonated with me. We have a dog 518 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: who he's my baby. I've had to retain years and 519 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know what I would rather starve than him 520 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: not get you know, medication if he was not feeling well, 521 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: you know. And people were telling us that, people were saying, 522 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm choosing not to do this because I just really 523 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: you need to help like my you know, I need 524 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: to pay my dogs that bills. And for us, we're like, 525 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna help you and we're gonna do it. And 526 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: I and I just felt like connected to it. Like 527 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: you said, I just felt totally connected to all of 528 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: these folks and they don't even know really who I am. 529 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: They you know, they don't know that because they you know, 530 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: they applied to like an info you know, an info 531 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: email and you know they didn't know who was probably 532 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: reading their reading their applications. But you know, I'd love 533 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: to just let them know like I heard you, and 534 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: you know, I'm We're so glad that we're able to help. Yeah. Well, so, 535 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: if you guys are in the music industry and still struggling, 536 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: definitely check out a c M lifting Lives. I know 537 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: you guys have. Your website has all the information of 538 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: how to get in touch. Specifically, if you're looking for 539 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: a grant, you can apply on the website. It's super easy, 540 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: you guys. There's just one button, new click and it 541 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: takes you right to the forms. Also, if you're listening 542 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: and you're not in the music industry and you're just 543 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: like struggling, go watch these videos of these artists talking. 544 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: I swear to god it will help. It is like 545 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: for me watching I was thinking, like, yes, I mean 546 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: and I know some of these people, so it makes 547 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: it even more personal. But even if you don't, like 548 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: these are people you've seen on a stage that are 549 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: amazing musicians, that have fans screaming them on and um 550 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: they they you know from the outside. I think we 551 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: could all make up that they wouldn't have any sort 552 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: of issues. But I swear to God, their stories sound 553 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: just like yours, Like they sound exactly alike. So can 554 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: you tell the people where to go find um these 555 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: videos and then also anything else you guys are working on. Yes, 556 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: so you can go to a c M lifting lives 557 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: dot org. Like Kelly said, that's a mouthful lifting lives 558 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: dot org and you'll find the resources there, and you 559 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: can you can click on kind of the main screen 560 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: I think it's John right now, um, and that takes 561 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: you to a YouTube a c M Academy of Country 562 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Music's YouTube page where a lot of the videos are living. 563 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: But you can also find them on our socials, which 564 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: I believe is a c M Country UM. If you're 565 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: on Instagram, and I think it's at a c N 566 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: Lifting lives if you're on Instagram, um, and you can 567 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: find videos there as well. But truly, if you are 568 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: someone who needs financial support or you know mental health support, 569 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: please visit our website and we will we will, we 570 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: will catch you. You leave your information. I love that, lindsay, 571 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Is there anything 572 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: else we can look forward to you from? You guys 573 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: are you all doing more videos, Yes, let's do something. Well, 574 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: let's talk about two Well, we are going to have 575 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: more videos. We have Okay, drop being on Tuesday, a 576 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: big artist who talks about his mental health journey quite 577 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: a bit. Well I'm sure you know who he is, 578 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: but I don't want to say his name yet. Okay, 579 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: day June seven, and then we are coming back to Nashville. 580 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: So we last year we did our first ever Party 581 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: for a Cause concert, and we are coming back on Tuesday. Um, 582 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: and there's some great name. It was announce those either 583 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: Okay knows at the end of this month, and I 584 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: think Kelly you know some of the people as well. 585 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: But you know, we'll have fun at that that event 586 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: and it'll be at the send Amphitheater on sale on 587 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: the end of June. Oh amazing. Okay, So check out 588 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: the Instagram handle. I'll put obviously all this in the 589 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: show notes you guys in the description of this podcast, 590 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: but Instagram handle and website for updates on that. Yep, yep. Well, 591 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: the Party for a Cause is up there as a 592 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: save the date but okay, our lineup and tickets will 593 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: go on sale at the end of June. So fun Kelly, 594 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: I will for sure count me in all right. You guys, well, 595 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: just as we said, keep the conversations going and um, 596 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: you know I'm always here too. If you guys need 597 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: to reach out, you can hit me on Instagram at 598 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: Velvet's Edge. Um, lindsay, thank you so much for doing this. 599 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: I love spreading the word and i love what you 600 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: guys are doing, so I'm so happy we could today. 601 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We're we're very honured to be 602 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: able to help people to thank you. Have a great 603 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: day in a great weekend you too. Thank you guys 604 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: so much for listening. Thanks for listening to the Velvet's 605 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, where we believe everyone has 606 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: a little velvet and a little edge. 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