WEBVTT - High Stakes Poker

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<v Speaker 1>Mr garbutsch Off teared down this wall. Either you're with

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<v Speaker 1>us or you were with the terrorists. If you got

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are satisfied with Trump is not the President of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, take to bank. Together, we will make America

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<v Speaker 1>great again. You'll never sharend It's what you've been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for all day. The Buck Sexton Show joined the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>called Buck Toll Free at eight four four nine hundred Buck.

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<v Speaker 1>That's eight four four nine hundred to eight to five

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<v Speaker 1>The Future of talk radio. Buck Sexton, Welcome to The

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show. Everybody, coming to you live from Savannah, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for hanging out with me today.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a freestyle Friday in effect, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of news to talk to you about. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna deep dive into what's going on with the UH

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<v Speaker 1>the tremendous announcement we had live for you on the

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<v Speaker 1>show last night about North Korea negotiations, negotiations over North

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<v Speaker 1>Korea's nuclear program. But we also have some information that

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm trying to see when this broke to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure I don't Yeah, just in the last few hours

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump not content to look just at the issue

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<v Speaker 1>of global trade and tariffs and take on China for

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<v Speaker 1>its manipulations of currency and markets, but also UH to

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<v Speaker 1>add North Korea into the mix. And then today Trump lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Wall Street Journal, are seeking a deal

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<v Speaker 1>with Muller to get the Russia probe to finally finish up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is high stakes poker, my friends. This is big.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is the president of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>who is going against all the conventional wisdom on trade

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and it's like, this is how it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is perhaps going to negotiate one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>important and momentous national security diplomatic UH detons in decades

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<v Speaker 1>with North Korea. We'll see, We'll see early. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not. We don't celebrate too early here

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hut. One of our maxims. Don't celebrate too early.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you never want to be the guy gets

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<v Speaker 1>tackled on the two yard line when you think you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna when you think you're in the end zone. No no, no, um.

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<v Speaker 1>But then on top of that, Trump is willing to

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<v Speaker 1>deal on the issue of his own presidency. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to put the presidents eat a sense at stake by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'll sit down with Mueller. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to hide, I'm not scared. Bring it Mueller. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Assuming this is true and this is gonna happen, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Trump really just calling out all of yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say, at the haters, the doubters, the underminers. Not

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's really a thing, but we could, we could

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<v Speaker 1>make that a word. I love how with the internet

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<v Speaker 1>these days, you just start using a word enough and

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a word. They add it. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the undermining of Trump by all these different individuals

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<v Speaker 1>if he sits down with Mueller, which I will note

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a very bad idea and precarious. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again, what do we what do we see from

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<v Speaker 1>Trump time and again people are like, oh, that's such

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea, and and then he does it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden they go, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't that actually wasn't a bad idea. And today,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, we've had Democrats talking about how bad add

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<v Speaker 1>the tax cuts were. I mean, Nancy Pelosi was acting

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<v Speaker 1>like the tax cuts were the were the equivalent of, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of war on the poor. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just nonsense coming from her. And then today we

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<v Speaker 1>see that the jobs are up for for the month

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<v Speaker 1>of February. Jobs are thousand, folks. You've got over a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty five million people employing the country right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and manufacturing has added two hundred and sixty three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>jobs since Trump took office. The Dow was up today

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and forty one points. What happened to Oh, China,

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<v Speaker 1>the trade, it's gonna it's all gonna fall apart, tax cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible. He goes with what he thinks is right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we see what the results are on Mueller. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the risks here, and I've been saying all along.

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<v Speaker 1>Mueller likes to get people for minor and frac actions,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has a long history of doing this. And

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<v Speaker 1>he may decide that he's going to stare down Trump

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<v Speaker 1>on this one. But you know what Trump is like,

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<v Speaker 1>bring it, he will see. He sounds like he's willing

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down with Mueller himself, and despite all of

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<v Speaker 1>the legal evidence to the contrary, he does not care. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He's decided that he is going to sit down and

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<v Speaker 1>have his say if this Russia nonsense will come to

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<v Speaker 1>an end at some point if the Mueller pro will

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<v Speaker 1>agree at least that the Trump portion of this has

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<v Speaker 1>to stop at some point. Oh my gosh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to drive Democrats insane. But once again we see

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<v Speaker 1>the negotiator at work here, because if in fact they

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<v Speaker 1>are meeting the Democrats, the Trump opposition all about just

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the truth of this, that the President would

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and speak the special counsel himself, that's something

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<v Speaker 1>they really want, right They've They've been assuming, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie to you. I've been assuming that Trump would

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<v Speaker 1>never do that. If he does it, and if there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing there and then Mueller has to wrap it up

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<v Speaker 1>within sixty or ninety days or whatever the agreement would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that is this a bargain that the Democrats that

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<v Speaker 1>the Atom ships and the Polo Seas and the Schumers,

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<v Speaker 1>we're you know, will they take this one? New York Times,

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Post, all these media outlets that are completely invested

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<v Speaker 1>in the implosion of this presidency the end of this presidency?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they going to advocate for against us? Do they

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<v Speaker 1>want the truth or do they want an endless They

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<v Speaker 1>want an endless investigation that just grinds on, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of it. The process is the punishment. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all know that they do want the process

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<v Speaker 1>to be the punishment. But are they willing to make

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<v Speaker 1>a trade one one chance to get the president in

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<v Speaker 1>legal jeopardy? You notice notice how Trump is forcing their

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<v Speaker 1>hand here just in the responses to this offer, which

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<v Speaker 1>has been floated to the Wall Street Journal here and

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<v Speaker 1>is the main story on on the Drudge Report as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on air. Just that he's put it out there

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<v Speaker 1>will expose some of those who as, oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mueller probe it has to just keep going on

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<v Speaker 1>and on and on. Oh no, he'll be done when

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<v Speaker 1>he's done. Well, is this about finding out if the

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<v Speaker 1>president included with Russia? Or is this about a special

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<v Speaker 1>counsel that just exists to exist and has really just

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<v Speaker 1>become a machine of petty prosecutions for the gratification and

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<v Speaker 1>amusement of scorned Hillary voters. That's what the Mueller Special

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<v Speaker 1>prosecut You should our special council is all about. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what makes Democrats feel happy, safe and warm at

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<v Speaker 1>night that Mueller's out there, uh, bringing felony charges bankrupting people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one who likes to remind everyone of this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>this is not without real pain and cost, even for

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<v Speaker 1>those who are completely innocent of any wrongdoing, including process crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta sell your house, gotta empty at your bank account,

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<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands of dollars to have legal representation for

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<v Speaker 1>just one of these hearings. Think about if it dragged

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<v Speaker 1>on for months, so this would be this would be

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<v Speaker 1>quite a showdown. Trump v. Mueller. And you know why

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is willing to do what I think because he's

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<v Speaker 1>just if he does it, well, I'm still concerned because

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<v Speaker 1>what happens if Mueller then says that the president has

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<v Speaker 1>has lied under oath or in this case, we line

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<v Speaker 1>to federal investigators. And what if Trump says, no, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to talk about a constitutional crisis? Folks? How

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<v Speaker 1>does that play out? And can the president even be

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<v Speaker 1>guilty of obstruction? People that I know in respect in

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<v Speaker 1>this area of constitutional jurisprudence say no, no, he cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>So what the heck is going on? There? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>just a political exercise. We will have to wait and see.

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<v Speaker 1>But what a week look at what this president has

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<v Speaker 1>piled onto his plate tariffs. That's which is really about

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<v Speaker 1>staring down China nuclear negotiations, which is about staring down

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Jong un North Korea. And and he's literally gonna

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<v Speaker 1>stare down Kim Jong I mean, they're gonna be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>across the room from each other and then staring down

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<v Speaker 1>the mollre probe. You know, it starts to make more

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<v Speaker 1>sense when we think back to the earliest days. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the things that I try to

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<v Speaker 1>do differently than a lot of other people who do radio,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I I do as much work in research

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<v Speaker 1>as I can to know as much as I can,

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<v Speaker 1>so when I'm on there, I am never wasting your time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That is an absolute goal that I have. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also know that I don't know everything. I learned so

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<v Speaker 1>much from all of you who listened to this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I try to be I try to maintain a

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<v Speaker 1>degree of humility and knowing that sometimes they're wrong. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know things and sometimes I didn't see things coming.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remind myself of that because I think it

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<v Speaker 1>makes me a better analyst going forward. I remind myself

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to bring the best that I can

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Every single night here on this show. And

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<v Speaker 1>that means being uh self critical one necessary. It means

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<v Speaker 1>holding myself to account, and it means having a memory

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<v Speaker 1>of what I've said and what I've believed to be

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<v Speaker 1>true or what I've put forward here on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I start to think back to the early

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<v Speaker 1>days of this whole Trump phenomenon, it's not even enough

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<v Speaker 1>to call it a wave. I mean, it is a phenomenon,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still truly hard to believe. Hard to believe

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<v Speaker 1>is a phrase that people throw around for all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of things, but this is still hard to believe. There

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<v Speaker 1>are days that I wake up and I said, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is president. And I don't say it in a negative way,

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<v Speaker 1>I just saying, and it's hard to believe, given what

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<v Speaker 1>we were told in the Hillary apparatus and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you listening to this show. And I know this

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<v Speaker 1>because you called and you wrote, and you told me

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<v Speaker 1>very early on you saw it coming. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>back to those early days, those early moments of this

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<v Speaker 1>uh this Trump phenomenon, and I remind myself, or I

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<v Speaker 1>remind myself and think back to how it all seemed

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<v Speaker 1>so impossible and improbable, and yet he told us all along,

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<v Speaker 1>what was what was happening, what was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>There was almost a surree little confidence that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>had in his run for the presidency. It felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it could not be real. But then when you would

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<v Speaker 1>go back and hear what he said and hear what

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<v Speaker 1>his plans were, you think, well, this is and now

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<v Speaker 1>that he's presidency, well this has been the plan all along.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what he's been saying all along, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I try to remind myself of that, because we have

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<v Speaker 1>a president who said that he would drain the swamp,

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<v Speaker 1>he said he would build a wall, he said he

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<v Speaker 1>would be He promised to be a disruptor, to be different.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was unique about him and separated him from

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<v Speaker 1>the other I can't remember I was at sixteen seventeen candidates,

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<v Speaker 1>was that he wasn't going to do it the way

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody else did. He wasn't going to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the conventional wisdom. He didn't decide that he would just

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<v Speaker 1>sit down in a room, and whoever seemed the smartest

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<v Speaker 1>at that point in time would be the person who

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<v Speaker 1>was basically making the decisions as commander in chief to

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<v Speaker 1>be disruptive means you have to change what is in repetition,

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<v Speaker 1>should you have to change what is expected? And that

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<v Speaker 1>is what Trump is doing. He is fulfilling promises by

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<v Speaker 1>breaking with the traditional way of doing things. Is he

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<v Speaker 1>right on all of them? I don't know. But do

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he's earned the right to at least

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<v Speaker 1>have our patience and good faith with some of these maneuvers. Absolutely? Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>If I've learned anything from trying to analyze and understand

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump way in politics, to understand the Trump world

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<v Speaker 1>order that we are in now, it's don't underestimate this

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<v Speaker 1>guy and don't think you know better than he does. China,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, Thank you. North Korea now, Mueller, it's

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<v Speaker 1>quite a week. Quite a week. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>more into the aftermath of that. North Korea is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>come out up here in just a few minutes. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wait, it's Friday, so John, you know what that means?

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<v Speaker 1>Hit it action movie. People keep asking if I'm back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't really had an answer, but now yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking on back. Quote you ever like to be dead?

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<v Speaker 1>Friday's Friday? Don't kung food? I know, kung food eight

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<v Speaker 1>four four to five. Buck your thoughts on any of

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<v Speaker 1>these huge hot topics or action movie quotes, were recipes

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<v Speaker 1>for the best possible hush puppies or Jambalaya, any of

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<v Speaker 1>the above. Colin, let me know. We'll talk be right back. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a deflection. Of course, it's a deflection. Willie comes Stormy, Well, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Stormy, So tearriffs and North Korea, all the

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<v Speaker 1>distract from a president that didn't go through the proper

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<v Speaker 1>channels are used the proper interagency processes once to change

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines from Stormy Daniel what it is? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Scarborough should really stick to his favorite pastimes shouting

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<v Speaker 1>at maids and limo drivers. You know, not good analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from this guy at all. He really thinks that this

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<v Speaker 1>is all the distract from Stormy Daniels. Nobody cares. I

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<v Speaker 1>have yet to meet a person that cares about the

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<v Speaker 1>Stormy Daniels thing, whether they believe it or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>just haven't met anybody who was focused on that when

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about trade with China North Korea, this

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<v Speaker 1>is about trying to stop a nuclear war from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And no matter how much you think Trump has his

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<v Speaker 1>flaws or whatever, I think that he takes that seriously. Scarborough. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy amazing. They gave him a show over at MSNBC.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that for uh, you know, for a certain

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<v Speaker 1>kind of republic in you know, they they identify with

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<v Speaker 1>Scarborough because they're like, yeah, I always want to look

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<v Speaker 1>like I just came off the beach from Nantucket too,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't have to really read or know anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I just sound like the guy who sits

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<v Speaker 1>at the cool table in high school, then people will

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<v Speaker 1>believe me. There's that and on you hat Acosta as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get into some of the haters everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll talk to you about the real analysis. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Oslon will be joining us from the Hoover Institution. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say this because I actually have a background in

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<v Speaker 1>national security analysis. As you know, uh, I know who

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<v Speaker 1>knows their stuff. And the people that come on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the realm of any anything national security or

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<v Speaker 1>security related. You know, they aren't guys like Andy McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon Chang, Michael Ostlin. These are people who are at

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<v Speaker 1>the top. There are people who when they speak about

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<v Speaker 1>these issues, they you know, they share a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>important insights and give a tremendous drawn, a tremendous depth

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<v Speaker 1>of information. So Michael will be joining us later to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what's going on here with this North Korean negotiation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you my take on it as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need me to tell you. Don't but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you anything. It's fun. Don't let Joe Scarborough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't let him shout at you like he shouts at

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<v Speaker 1>bus boys where they don't bring him his ship is

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<v Speaker 1>fast enough. Uh, you know, and don't listen to Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Acosta either. Clip eight play it, clip eight play it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were hearing from senior administration officials, uh, that that

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<v Speaker 1>they were basically cautioning the president against this, that this

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<v Speaker 1>was not going to be their recommendation. But Trump being Trump, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not unusual for him to defy his advisors

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<v Speaker 1>and decide to go with a bold move like this.

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<v Speaker 1>The potential ramifications, all all this. You know, we can't overstate. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not reality television. This is not The Apprentice.

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<v Speaker 1>When the President United States decides to me with Kim

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<v Speaker 1>Jong un about denuclearizing North Korea, this is deadly serious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we know, we we don't need you to tell us there,

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<v Speaker 1>chief White House pundit for CNN that this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the Apprentice. But thanks for that, Thanks for that. Oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really amazing, isn't it. Um. We'll get into it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of the North Korea stuff in just a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Here what it means why the left is obviously so

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<v Speaker 1>deeply committed to making it seem like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge mistake. Can you imagine if Trump is by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if I think about if he runs the table this

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<v Speaker 1>week and he's he happens to be somewhat even a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit right on the China tariff's issue, and then

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<v Speaker 1>on North Korea and Mueller, just an extraordinary evening and

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<v Speaker 1>of course opening the door to the big question President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump can truly solve this problem, that would be going

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<v Speaker 1>down as a great president. And there's no way around that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the reality here. Somebody pull over the we ambulence,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell, you can tell they really so we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We're actually in a discussion, your folks, about a pathway

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<v Speaker 1>to avoiding a military strike that could result in catastrophic life. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the serious people, That's what you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are thinking about here, And how can Trump, How can

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<v Speaker 1>this administration achieve that? Meanwhile, in some of the Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>corridors of society, the left wing progressive types, uh, their

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<v Speaker 1>biggest concern is that if Trump pulls this off, then

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<v Speaker 1>it will be so clear that one they've been wrong

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<v Speaker 1>about him all along, but particularly the issue of national security,

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<v Speaker 1>he will be as Aaron Burnet just said, they're a

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<v Speaker 1>great president, and she said it almost like it was

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<v Speaker 1>an admission of some calamity that would be followed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like so sad, like if Trump stops

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<v Speaker 1>this terrible situation in North Korea, like what's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>to America? Because then he'll be a great presidents like

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<v Speaker 1>exactly ex Actually, he'll be a great president. Yes he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He I think he's going to be. Yeah, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>some rough edges here and there, there's some stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe part of the problem is that in

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<v Speaker 1>the past we have put so much stock on the

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<v Speaker 1>president sounds, presidential, comes across as presidential all that that

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<v Speaker 1>we lost sight of, well, what really affects you and

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<v Speaker 1>me and what really affects the world around us. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's going to be a big difference

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<v Speaker 1>we shall see with Trump. But yeah, that's it actually

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of what was going on with some Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>in Congress, and this was I saw this firsthand. There

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<v Speaker 1>were some Democrats in Congress during the surge, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know many people listening to this show right now we're

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<v Speaker 1>a part of and thank you for your service. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that the Iraqi people also thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>saving their country from descending into the seventh circle of hell. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But during the surge there were Democrats who could barely

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<v Speaker 1>high there uh agitation with the fact that the Bush

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<v Speaker 1>administration plan to surge troops into Iraq to stabilize the

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<v Speaker 1>country and to fight counterinsurgency the way that it is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be fought, that it was working, which meant

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<v Speaker 1>less violence against the Iraqi people. There was a drop

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<v Speaker 1>in violence. That's how you know it's working, and also

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<v Speaker 1>less casualties for US troops because it was working. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking when you were evaluating, you know, after a

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<v Speaker 1>period of months. And there were some people have yelled

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<v Speaker 1>at me for saying this. I do not care because

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<v Speaker 1>I was there. I saw it. I remember, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were some Democrats who I'm not saying they were rooting.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't thinking in their heads. And these are as

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<v Speaker 1>a congress, some very well known ones. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>they were thinking out loud or saying out loud, oh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a bad thing that we're seeing us

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<v Speaker 1>less violence in Iraq. But they were thinking, darn it.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's whole thing here, this whole gamble. Remember it was

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<v Speaker 1>like they said, he was gambling his presidency on it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's working. And you sense that same, that same idea

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<v Speaker 1>here with some of these media folks and some of

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<v Speaker 1>these Democrats, as Trump may have it may being the

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<v Speaker 1>operative word, have set in motion the biggest diplomatic victory. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to see. Like I said, no, and I

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying it, don't celebrate really very important thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't. We don't spike the football until it's time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we spike it hard. But just to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a little reminder what it was like here, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what the media was saying before the announcements. We

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<v Speaker 1>we pulled together a representative montage. We need a montage.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched Team American a while. Great film. See

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's so great. I won't even clote a movie

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<v Speaker 1>it's a film. Uh North Korea, North Korea. Here we

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<v Speaker 1>go it this clip one. That is what they were

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<v Speaker 1>saying before the meeting that Trump announced yesterday. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what they were sounding like when it came at Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and foreign policy in North Korea. Play one. Tweets like this,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially poor gasoline on that blaze. President Trump is goading

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Jong un to testament, I do worry about what

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<v Speaker 1>his boiling point might be in the face of some

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<v Speaker 1>of these, uh, inflammatory tweets and statements at the present

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<v Speaker 1>makes this It's just how the snowball effects starts. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very easy to get into and quickly. None of this normal,

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<v Speaker 1>None of this acceptable, None of this frankly stable behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>None of this is normal. Um, that's what they were

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<v Speaker 1>saying about it. But I should have just read the

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<v Speaker 1>montage myself, as you could tell there. I'm sorry if

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<v Speaker 1>I talked over some of that, but gosh, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is pretty made. It's christoff from the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 1>If you speak like this and then everyone thinks you're

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<v Speaker 1>so much smarter than they are. If you think that

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't sound like Nicholas Kristof, go listen to some

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Kristof you like Buck, You're amazing. You've got the

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<v Speaker 1>Irish gift of mimicry. Hey, lad um. Anyway, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what they're saying now. So that was beforehand, right, that

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<v Speaker 1>was with the tweets. And he's going and Kim Jong

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<v Speaker 1>own into a ward. Oh my god, it's gonna be terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>And and here's what they were saying once the announcement

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<v Speaker 1>was made, to have our own madman who could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>blow up the world. Trump. Yeah, I was thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>Trump when I said that all of the summits are dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Any president could have sat down with Kim or his father.

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<v Speaker 1>Why has no suiting American president ever met with a

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<v Speaker 1>leader from North Korea? Should I take that to mean

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<v Speaker 1>that this might be a particularly risky or even an

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<v Speaker 1>unwise move. All of the rhetoric and the insults, the taunts,

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<v Speaker 1>the nuclear button mind is bigger than yours, all of

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<v Speaker 1>that which has been a real crisis, even those who

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<v Speaker 1>really were yearning for talks. I think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>conferring legitimacy on Kim Jong. Oh. I know it gives

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<v Speaker 1>me a headache. Two, But here we are dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>it together on the I think this is important. On

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<v Speaker 1>the Rachel matt Out point about and look like I

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<v Speaker 1>always do say, I call balls and strikes credit words,

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>matt I was smart. Don't underst me, Mattow. She just panders,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's smart. There are some left wingers that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see on TV. They're just they're just dumb as dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>But for whatever you know, they are on TV because

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<v Speaker 1>of any number of reasons. We can talk about another time.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt I was smart, but panders and is disingenuous with

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<v Speaker 1>many of the things she says to that audience because

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<v Speaker 1>she's looking for ratings and actually her ratings beaten CNN

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<v Speaker 1>by a lot. That tells you something by a lot

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<v Speaker 1>by like Miles and Miles. Uh. But to her point

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<v Speaker 1>about no previous presidents done that, and she's very snarky

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<v Speaker 1>about it. She's like, Oh, I'm just gonna be snarky

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I wonder write no other president has done this. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, there have only been three presidents that

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<v Speaker 1>have really before the Trump administration. Before President Trump, I've

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<v Speaker 1>really even had to reckon with the possibility of a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear North Korea, never mind an actual North Korea. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got the Bush administration trying to negotiate their

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<v Speaker 1>way through it with Kim Jong Ill, Manteline I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Back before that, the Clinton administration trying to negotiate with

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Jong Ill and Maddelin Madeline Albright running point on

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't work out, big, big failure, massive fail as

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<v Speaker 1>the kids say, thumbs down, as the old millennials like

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<v Speaker 1>me would say, um. And then you had the Bush administration, which,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I know, we find many things about

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<v Speaker 1>President Bush to be admirable, and also on North Korea,

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<v Speaker 1>massive fail They did not. Now, they had some policies

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<v Speaker 1>that were right. I'm not saying that it's it was

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<v Speaker 1>all for nought. They had very smart people, think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Clinton people had smart people trying to handle this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think Madeline Albright was way overrated for

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of reasons. But you know that there were

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<v Speaker 1>there were there were people that were looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>in sanctions and these are the right moves. But if

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<v Speaker 1>the point of that was to stop North Korea from

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<v Speaker 1>advancing its missile and nuclear programs, that is they were failures. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Clinton failed, Bush one failed, Obama failed, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush two failed. Obama failed. So you look back at

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<v Speaker 1>this now and you say to yourself, Okay, you've only

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>had a few presidents that have even had to think

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>about a nuclear North Korea. So I mean to compare

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it to like, wow, look at Jimmy Carter North Korea.

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>That's irrelevant, okay, because the reason that we can't ignore

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>this is the possibility of the complete emmolation of a city.

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>That's not something you can just write off. That's not

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.120
<v Speaker 1>something you can say, you know what, We're just gonna

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>figure out this problem is some other time. No, And

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>that's why there's been an urgency to this, and we

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>are working on a timetable. We are working on a

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>clock here. And so we keep being told by both

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>sides of the political aisle that they're getting North Koreas

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>getting closer and closer to definitively I don't even know

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>if we know what they have quite honestly, right, I mean,

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you know there's that, but to definitively have an i

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>CBM that is nuclear tip, that is nuclear cable that

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>could hit anywhere in the continental United States, and then

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll try to get more of those missiles, a missile

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>threat that could defeat our countermeasures, and then you're relying

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>entirely on to terrens and we're hoping that North Korea

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>is not crazy enough to try something. We all know

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>that we're running out of room or running out of

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>road here to work with. And the Trump administration is

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>looking at this and saying, well, what's been tried in

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the past. This is and this brings us back to

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the matt Out point there, the snarky well, why did

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<v Speaker 1>ever a president not doing this? Because every president has

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>failed thus far to actually stop the program, never mind

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you to eradicate the nuclear program in North Crere. I

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>just mean to stop it for a considerable period of time,

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and to stop the missile program and to get compliance,

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>meaningful compliance with the career. Whe they've done in the

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>past is pretending to negotiate and then just you know,

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>psych I mean, it is Lucy with the football, my friends.

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>It is just a total all the whole thing, a

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>total scam. Oh yeah, all of our agreements, we we

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>renounced those. Sorry, thanks for all the food aid though, suckers.

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what they're saying to the international community. So um,

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.479
<v Speaker 1>that's what I think we have to keep in mind.

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:51.479
<v Speaker 1>If we're gonna be judging the Trump administration's ability here

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>or Trump Administration's decision making to go forward with this.

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>It's different, but you need something different. This brings you

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>back to the very beginning of the show. Disruptive, a

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>change from the norm, outside of what is expected. Isn't

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that what Trump promised? And isn't that the reason that

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>he is president right now? If we wanted somebody who

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>was going to do what the panels of analysts that

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, ABC and CNN and etcetera, etcetera wanted him

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to do, wouldn't it what I mean? And assuming it's

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a Republican you know, we we could have had Kasik yikes,

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>But there you go. We could have done that, but

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>we didn't, did we. We've got a president that takes

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a different approach, that doesn't care what the consensus opinion is.

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>He cares what he thinks the right move is on

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>these issues, and he's going with it. And I think

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that we should see what happens. Let him play it out.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's going to eight four four to five

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>eight four four, buck, we will hit a quick break

0:30:55.240 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be right back. Cavalier threats to start a

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>war are dangerous and shortsighted. I am worried about some

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of the recent actions from the new administration that seemed

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>to raise tensions. Our allies are now expressing concerns about

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>America's credibility and reliability. And by the way, picking fights

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>with Kim Jong un just puts a smile on his face. Wow. Actually,

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>we do not need to hear from Hillary. I want

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to note what was Hillary's to take us back to

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>another time that we will all remember quite well. Hillary

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>was Secretary of State for what four years something like that.

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>What was her big accomplishment as America's chief different in

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>those four years, other than flying all over the world

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>establishing foreign contacts so that there be even more people

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>able to buy influence that she was peddling via the

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Clinton Foundation, what what did she really? What did she accomplish?

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I recall when asked some of her State

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Department spokespersons drew a blank, and I thought it was

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>very unfair that those spokespersons were criticized at the time

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>for drawing a blank on Hiller's accomplishments. It was an

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>air fault. Hillary had no accomplishments. Right, There's nothing you

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>can do about that. That was just the truth. In fact,

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the silence was the ultimate truth when it came to

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Hillary's ability to get deals done as America's chief diplomat

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>under the Obama administration. And don't even get me started

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>on BEng Ghazi. And we'll just talk about that for

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the show. Uh. And then there are

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>others from the Obama ainistration that have come out of

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the woodwork to criticize this, including h MSNBC's Evelyn Farcas

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>play clip three. And if what they really will be

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>satisfied with is respect and normalization, great, we can give

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that to them, but we have to maintain the pressure

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>because remember what got them to the table, the sanctions

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately, probably some of the bluster coming out of

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the White House. WHOA, look at that. Look at that.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>She's admitting it, folks. She's like, ah, it's just like

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>so upsetting. But like Trump was, maybe maybe Trump's like

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>an evil genius. I know, I know it makes them sad,

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that makes them very sad. But I give her credit

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>miss Farcas for admitting that, in fact, Trump's approach here,

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>while breaking with the foreign policy orthodoxy, was in fact

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>perhaps just a little just a little bit, a little bit,

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the fuel to get this whole

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>thing going. You know, when you have a regime that is,

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in fact, in a sense, a necrocracy, it is ruled

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>by the dead because Kim Jong UN's grandfather, Kim Il sung,

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>is still considered the the father of the state, and

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it's still really the North Korean command or in chief

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in a sense, not not really, but in North Korean

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>h propaganda, Um, he's still officially the the supreme leader.

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>And when you're dealing with that, and you have someone

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>who is the leader of the free world who is

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>finally willing to push back on that, you know, everyone

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>right now is assuming that Kim Jung un is just

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to play us. But what if there was a

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>realization that they couldn't keep the propaganda going, if they

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 1>kept this if it was you know, Kim Jong un

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>standing up to the world, staying up to America all

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>the time, and doing so fearlessly, and you know, if

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen North Korean propaganda, it's its own whole

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>area of study. Uh. But what if it made the

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>regime look weak that somebody was willing to say things

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>like Kim Jong un is a little punk and we're

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>not going to stand for this anymore. That's a form

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>of pressure in and of itself. Right, It had been

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the traditional conventional wisdom that you can't you can't talk

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>tough to Kim John don You have to say things

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>like the the international community will come together and in

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>bonds of in bonds of trust and legality to slowly

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>eliminate the rogue behavior. No, no, no, Trump is just like, no,

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>we're not standing for anymore. This guy's a punk and

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a coward, and he's gonna get it if he doesn't

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>watch it. And sure enough, now they want to talk.

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>So maybe it's maybe it is all a head fake.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>But I gotta say, you start adding up the the

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>data points here, and it looks like maybe as ms

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>fark Is just admitted it was some of Trump's bluster,

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I know. Good stuff. Welcome to our two of the

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show. Thank you so much for being here.

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I've got news talk to you about. As I said,

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>we are doing a bit of a deep dive into

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the talks that Trump is gonna have with Kim Jong

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>un of North Korea later this hour coming up. Actually

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>just at the bottom of the hour, so right around

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>UH well, and just a little bit, we'll have Michael

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Oslin joining us of the Hoover Institution. He is an

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>excellent UH security policy analyst on all East Asia issues.

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:22.919
<v Speaker 1>You'll want to hear what he has to say about

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>where this is all going and what it means. And

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and then the third hour today we'll get into some

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff that comes to mind talking about my Savannah trip.

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm down here in Savannah, Georgia, broadcasting live from our

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I Heart affiliate, So we are gonna be talking about that.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>But first I've got to give you just some updates

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>here on a on a breaking news story that a

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>veterans home in California is on lockdown, the reports of

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>shots fired and an our man uh taking three hostages

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>according to Fox News here during active shoot shooter situation

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>at a California veterans home in Yunville, California, at the

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.240
<v Speaker 1>young Ville Veterans Home. I do not have any additional

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>information right now. Then SWAT is on the scene and

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>they are trying to deal with what they what is

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 1>a hostile situation right now. If we get any more

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>breaking news on this one, I'll bring you up to speed.

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't have any word on casualties. Obviously, active shooter

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>situation puts everyone on edge. It always puts everyone on edge,

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 1>and that this involves one of the um larger veterans homes.

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 1>It's got veterans who more than a thousand veterans uh

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>stretching back all the way to World War Two. So

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>are our thoughts and prayers are with all those at

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the home, all the families of those at the home,

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>And as soon as we have more on that, we

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>will bring it to you. I have an update on

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>another active previous shooter situation. Pardon me, what happened in

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Florida at the Stoneman Douglas School. I have said to

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you and I stand behind this, and I think it's

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 1>been proven increasingly correct with time that whenever we thought

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it couldn't get any worse. From the perspective of what

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement involved in this scenario, right, I don't like

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to just say law enforcement generally, because we've got hundreds

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of law enforcement officers across the country doing

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a phenomenal job, putting their lives at risk every day

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and making this an incredibly safe and prosperous country in

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the process. Right, but law enforcement involved in this shooting

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>was in some cases absolutely uh appalling in their behavior

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:54.479
<v Speaker 1>and in other cases, which I'll talk to you about

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>as well, very admirable. So you know, there you get

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>both sides of it with the Stoneman Douglas shooting law

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>enforcement response. But I was very critical of officer or deputy.

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>He's a deputy in the ship, Brown County Sheriff's Department,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Deputy Peterson's actions and some of you, as you are

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:20.760
<v Speaker 1>always you know, I am always open to good faith arguments, challenges, critiques,

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, calling if you think I'm you think I'm off.

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear from folks out there. I think

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 1>that I'm off, I think that I'm getting something wrong.

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Always doesn't mean I'm gonna agree with you, doesn't mean

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let it slide on air. But I want

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>to hear from you and some of some of those

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you listen. So I thought that I was being too

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>hard on Peterson. Uh, now that we have more information,

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm I wasn't being hard enough on Peterson. A couple

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:44.240
<v Speaker 1>of very important points here about the Stoneman Douglas shooting

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in the law enforcement response to it. One is that

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it is in fact and was before this. Broward County

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's Department policy that during an active shooter situation, you

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>go and confront the threat. That is what armed law

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>enforcement is supposed to do. That is the policy. So

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>people who were initially saying, oh, no, the policy as

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>a perimeter, it's not their fault. They're not trained for it,

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that is false. Broward County Sheriff's deputies are trained and

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>expected to directly confront the threat. Obviously that's what should

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 1>have been done, and that was what they were supposed

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to do. Now, once we heard about deputies on the

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>scene who didn't go in, who were waiting outside the school,

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 1>we knew there would be some maneuvering on their part

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:39.879
<v Speaker 1>to make it seem like it wasn't quite as bad

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>as it was from the perspective again of their actions.

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And we even heard Peterson, I think through his lawyer,

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Deputy Peterson say well, I wasn't sure if a shooting

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>was happening inside or outside the building, which you can

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>go back and listen. When that was the I said,

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that, no way, I that's not even

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>issue of training. Right, Every single oneting listing is like

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I would know if the shooting was inside or outside

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the building, it's not that hard to figure out. Uh.

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I said that at the time, and now we have

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the audio tapes. Now that this stuff is is disturbing,

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to play a lot of the news

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>networks and shows and everything. I've just been running the

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, terrified calls being made. That's not where we

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>are past. Far enough past the event, and enough other

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>people are doing that right now that I don't find

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 1>that to be necessary at this stage. If it's out there,

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it's on the internet, you can hear that. But this

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the response and analyzing law enforcement response so that if

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>this comes up again, UM, everyone is very clear about

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>what needs to be done and also what the expectations

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>of the of of the community, of all of us

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of civilians would be in this kind of situation, it

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 1>is important to look at the response. So that's why

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play coming up here and into a second,

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>a short clip from officer Peterson's nine one one call.

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>This is in the initial moments, and Miami Herald has

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 1>done some very good reporting on this. This is the

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 1>initial moments. They've got a timeline now, uh and the

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 1>nine one one calls have been released, but this part

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of it gives us some very important information. Play clup eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not put the twelve undred building daily away at

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>good point, Stay away from building, stay away, stay five

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>five hundred feet away from the building. My friends, come on,

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I know you know this, but wow, five ft away.

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>There is an active shooter inside the building. And he

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously knows that that's what's going on, and he's saying

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>stay five ht away, which is against policy and against

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 1>their training. Uh, this is a disgrace. It's a good

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>thing that he resigned, because otherwise he would have had

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to be uh dragged into a public I as well.

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It actually doesn't even I was gonna say it could

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>be dragged into um more of a of a hearing

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>than he already was. But it doesn't matter. We all

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>know it's being tried in the public in a sense.

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Now we're all seeing this. It's really distressing though. Um

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it was as bad as we thought initially. He waited

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>outside shootings going on inside. Kids are getting killed. They

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>have no defense, they're defenseless. There's an active shooter. He's

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 1>on the scene. He has trained, he has law enforcement,

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 1>he has sworn to uphold lawn to protect the innocent

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and didn't do a darn thing. We know that other

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement showed up at the scene and was appalled

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 1>at what the Brower County Sheriff's Department was doing. They're like, well,

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>what are you guys doing? You know they knew. And

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.800
<v Speaker 1>then there's another part, And I'm almost mixed in my

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 1>feelings of this one because on the one hand, it

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>is a reminder of what law enforcements country is really

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 1>all about, so that's good. On the other hand, I'm

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>annoyed that they're getting in trouble. But you had to

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>swat team members detectives Jeffrey Gilbert and Carl Schlausser, who

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>rushed to Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School the moment they

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 1>heard there was an active shooter there. They just went

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>They're just you know, wheels up inbound hot and they

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>got suspended. I know you're thinking what to swat members

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>running running towards towards the gunfire. Exactly what we expect

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and know our law enforcement across the country does. And

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>these guys have additional training and tactical skills to make

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.359
<v Speaker 1>them even more effective at confronting that threat. But they

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>are emblematic of what American law enforcements all about. People

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>are in danger, they're is a criminal who is harming innocence.

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>We're on it. So in that sense, it's okay and

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>that that's what we're that's actually forget about this Peterson

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Deputy Peterson for second American law enforcement every day, time

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and again across the country is represented by detectives Gilbert

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and Schlauser. But they got suspended because they disobeyed orders.

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we we can't let that one

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 1>slide there. They're disobeying orders to go to the scene.

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Miramar Police Department spokeswoman Tanya Ruez said it quote created

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a danger for the officers who were responding. Well, now

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that we know what those some of those responding officers

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>were doing, I'm not really sure how we're supposed to

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>take this one, folks. You created a danger for the

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>officers who were saying stay five feet away from the

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>building where there's an active slaughter going on, where students

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>are bleeding out. Remember, every second counts. These are trauma wounds,

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>they're dying, students are dying from blood loss five feet

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>from the building. As you all know, that's pretty far.

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>That's not take up, you know, take cover and see

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 1>if we can. I don't know, I don't know if

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>officers would these officers probably wouldn't get into a stack

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and kick in the door, but try to tactically maneuver

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>their way in the bill. No, No, that's that's like whoa,

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, we gotta let's let's go way way out there.

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Make sure we're nowhere in harm's way, five D free

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>from building. That's insane. And you got these other officers

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>from Miramar Police Department who were like, there are people

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>in danger. This is what we do, this is how

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 1>we roll. So God bless them. I mean's it's it's

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 1>good here. And and the that other the other police

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>department that was on the scene that was disgusted by

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the actions of this. You know, we're all very thankful

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to them. Were representing what actual law enforcement this country

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>is all about and how they do their jobs day

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>in and day out. But getting back to the failures here,

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you know with the FBI, the tip line, the FBI

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>has said, yeah, we failed the we know they're gonna

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 1>revamp the way they approach the tipline and some capacity

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 1>who knows what that really means. But they dropped the

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 1>ball many times. Um, I I have a you know,

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm less clear on what local law enforcement with with

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the passage of a little more time now and thinking

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>about it, you know, Broward County Sheriff's Department, and I

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 1>guess they could have pressed charges for the threats. They

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>could have tried that maybe, But the actual response that

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 1>day from what we see and what we now know,

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and if you listen to those audio tapes, you'll hear it.

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>They had cops on the scene exactly what was going on.

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>They just didn't want to go in They just didn't

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>want to get shot at. Deputy Peterson just didn't want

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to get a shot at. That's it. That's what you

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>take away from this this audio. And I know a

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of law enforcement law enforcement folks are hearing this

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and they're just saying, you know, that's just it's it's

0:47:54.760 --> 0:48:00.399
<v Speaker 1>such a bad it's such a bad situation for all

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the other folks that were on the scene who wanted

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 1>to go in there and wanted to be the ones

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:06.919
<v Speaker 1>that put themselves in harm's way to take those risks

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to protect people who had no chance of protecting themselves,

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and I know this is an issue people get very

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>passionate about. I appreciate that, I understand it. I feel

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the same way. But I'm looking at the response. I

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's important and we know what happened there. I

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>also want to know when we can get and this

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 1>is a diversion of digression from Stone and Douglas, but

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to know when we can get actual information

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.839
<v Speaker 1>on what happened in Las Vegas. Were speaking about active

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>shooter situations. The more I'm looking at that, it just

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>keeps getting weirder. What's going on? I get no real

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:41.839
<v Speaker 1>information about so much that that have the nine one

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 1>one tapes from this have been released, I might have

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 1>missed them, But I feel like there's still a whole

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of information that we have access to about Las

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Vegas we could have access to that we haven't seen yet.

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 1>What's going on there. Just that's something to think about,

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 1>something we'll tackle another time. I'm gonna roll into a

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 1>quick break. Your team will be back in just a moment.

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>You've appointed someone outside DJ. Are they actually a special counsel?

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think that matters because that individual needs have resources,

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>need to be able to go to the grand jury

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.320
<v Speaker 1>in Washington, where most of this stuff took place. So

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you can subpoena evidence documents, bring witnesses in, if you

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 1>need search warrants, you can do that. Remember when Hillary

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>was investigated, they didn't do any of those basic administrative steps.

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:26.919
<v Speaker 1>It was basically a proform investigation, a real investigation. Here

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>if if this guy goes after this the way Mueller

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 1>is scorching the earth, and you'll have a flurry of

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>indictments based on what we already know. As Representative Rhonda Santis,

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he's totally correct here. If you applied Mueller

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>tactics to a Hillary investigation, if you set up a

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 1>second special counsel, which in effect I would not my friends,

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 1>would really be a special counsel. To look at the

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:55.959
<v Speaker 1>special council, there'll be all kinds of people that would

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 1>be in jeopardy, and I think in legal jeopardy. I

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 1>think it also would be fair play because the way

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:06.439
<v Speaker 1>this is going right now, it just continues to drain

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>resources and just ruin the lives of people caught up

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in the investigation. And you'll notice something about them. They're

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:17.240
<v Speaker 1>all Republicans, all tied to Trump. This is partisan warfare.

0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what the Muller probe has turned into. That is

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:23.320
<v Speaker 1>what it is. This is the deep state's revenge, so

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 1>to speak. And I think we're all sick of it.

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:29.359
<v Speaker 1>And if the shoe were on the other foot all

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, or I guess we had shoes on

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:33.360
<v Speaker 1>both feet here, if there are two special counsels, you

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. If that happened, then maybe in

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the future Democrats would be a little bit less sore

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:48.760
<v Speaker 1>losers and wouldn't go for the legal option to remedy

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 1>their political disappointments, wouldn't just try to weaponize the law

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and the d o J in order to get for

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>themselves what they could not get through a free, fair

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and oh be election speaking free for an open election.

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>By the way, what I'm a Putin When Putin had

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>something very uh interesting to say, this is through a

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:13.439
<v Speaker 1>tred it always it sounds not nearly as as tough guy,

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, as you would expect, right Putin shirtless carrying

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 1>a rifle, three bears slung over his shoulder, that he's

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>taken out himself, right, the whole thing. Whatever he does.

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Through a translator, it's like, yes, I will make sure

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 1>that Vladimir is the biggest, strongest man. It's never really

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.320
<v Speaker 1>as scary as it should be, but this is putin

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 1>through a translator. Fourteen. You mentioned a number of names,

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>some individuals. Can you're telling me that they're Russians. A

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 1>so maybe being Russian, they're actually working for some kind

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of American company. Perhaps one of them used to work

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:51.320
<v Speaker 1>for one of the candidates. I have no idea, but

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>these are not my problem. Like I have no idea,

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>these are not my problems. Oh lad uh, you funny man.

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>You so. I do think that the second Special Council

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 1>would be very useful, and I think that we should

0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>get it going. I think the representative to Santists makes

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the critical point there that we should see how the

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Democrats like it. When all of a sudden everything just

0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 1>turns into an examination where the facts are not what's

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 1>really or rather crimes or not what they're really concerned

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:32.280
<v Speaker 1>with finding crimes that they can pin on political enemies

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>is what they're trying to do right there, trying to

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:39.720
<v Speaker 1>create the conditions for violations of statute that then allow

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>for retalent. What's just political retaliation on the Vladimir side

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of things that they're the some kind of American company.

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>These are these are not my problems. I think he's

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 1>just trolling. Look, he's if if you were here, what

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>would you say at this point, Well, maybe we will

0:52:57.640 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 1>be easier with Hilary, you know, I don't know what

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>would you say, maybe a moving of middle Um. I

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:07.760
<v Speaker 1>think that at this point in time, we were starting

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>to see that the Democrat narrative is fraying at the seams.

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 1>They're getting desperate. That's why Trump wanted to stare down

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Muller in the first place. That's why we have a

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>situation where finally, finally, um, there may be a breakthrough

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:30.080
<v Speaker 1>on North Korea, on the Mueller probe, and with China's

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:34.839
<v Speaker 1>unfair trade practices. Um, we will see, we will see.

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I have my I have some predictions in mind here.

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh I just realized. Sorry, I thought we were going

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to break there for a second, and we didn't. Because

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm in Savannah, so my timing is a little off there.

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:46.480
<v Speaker 1>So if it sounded like I was dozing off, it

0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 1>just because I was like, am I to stop speaking?

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 1>And I need No, I'm not gonna stop speaking. We've

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>got our friend Michael os Lynn joining us from the

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Hoover Institute, and he's gonna talk about North Korea a

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>bit more, and then third hour Obama on net licks

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:02.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that and a whole lot of other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is a diplomatic shock and awe, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's because North Korea number one, is

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<v Speaker 1>very close to achieving its objective of being able to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver nuclear warheads to targets in the United States via

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 1>ballistic missile UH and they want to buy time to

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>get across that finish line. I don't think Kim Jong

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:29.239
<v Speaker 1>un acceptment expected that the President was going to take

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>up his offer. I think he believed he'd get the

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:37.800
<v Speaker 1>usual response of six months of diplomatic preparation, nine months

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>of talks that would go on forever. So that's a

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 1>former US and BASSI United Nations John Bolton saying that

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:49.239
<v Speaker 1>we may have knocked Kim off balance here, perhaps with

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Trump saying he would accept it so quickly. A lot

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:55.760
<v Speaker 1>of different analysis coming in on this one and obviously

0:54:56.280 --> 0:55:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a momentous event here or or is it that's were

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:01.839
<v Speaker 1>this all comes down to you to help us work

0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:04.720
<v Speaker 1>through some of this. We've got Michael Oslin on the phone.

0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 1>He is the UH inaugural WILLIAMS. Griff's Fellow in Contemporary

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Asia Studies at the Hoover Institution. He specializes in global

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:18.720
<v Speaker 1>risk analysis, US security, in foreign policy strategy, particularly in Asia. Michael,

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 1>great to have you, Thanks for having me. Book are

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 1>what what do you make of this? I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>give me at first, your your thirty thousand foot view

0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 1>of what we found out about US North Korea South

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Korea diplomatic relations in the last forty eight hours or so. Well, honestly,

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I think this is actually what both leaders wanted. I

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 1>think from the beginning the Trump administration, I don't think

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 1>they actually wanted to go to war. I think what

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:44.040
<v Speaker 1>they felt, rightly is that eight years of inaction by

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the Obama administration and failed policies on the part of

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 1>previous US administrations had left the US with almost no leverage.

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So they ramped up the pressure. They increased sanctions. They

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>talked about war and fire and fury and bloody knows.

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.640
<v Speaker 1>And that gave Kim pause because he had never heard

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a U. S president consistently talk like that. On the

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>other hand, go ahead, Kim Jong un pressed ahead with

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>his nuclear and missile programs, ramped it up to the

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.480
<v Speaker 1>level where the United States seriously felt it either had

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk or it had to go to war. And

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>so he got what he wanted, which is a sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with the President of the US and the possibility

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 1>of getting much bigger prizes. Now there's a lot of analysis.

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 1>We've been playing some of it here on the show

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:30.839
<v Speaker 1>for people saying this is, you know, clearly just a ploy.

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:33.960
<v Speaker 1>How could Trump for this? Of course there are other

0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:36.320
<v Speaker 1>people that take a more pro Trump you saying this

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 1>is a breakthrough that Obama didn't manage in an eight years. First,

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 1>let me just ask you about that. How how do

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.479
<v Speaker 1>you assess the change here from what we had seen

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:48.320
<v Speaker 1>for the last eight years or so in terms of

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:50.839
<v Speaker 1>the Obama approach North Korea? Is it fair to say

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that this is something new and different or is this

0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>just more of the same. Well, I think that it

0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 1>has been something like we might call it an Obama

0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 1>plus st ategy. What you know, the Obama administration adopted

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 1>this policy of strategic Patients, which was basically a free

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:10.279
<v Speaker 1>pass for the Kim regime for eight years to build

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 1>up its weapons systems. Uh. Now, they did do some sanctions,

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they did talk about working closer with with allies. They

0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 1>did do shows of force occasionally, but that's what all

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>US administrations have done. I think with Trump it was

0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that questioning of the madman theory, would he really go

0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to war? Does he? Is he really so unpredictable that

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 1>it might be a bolt out of the blue. Now

0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you combine that with much stronger sanctions and absolutely much

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>stronger rhetoric, and in a sense it it is something new.

0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 1>But I think the number one thing to remember when

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 1>dealing with the North Koreans is never ever underestimate them.

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It may well be that Kim Jong un got nervous,

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and it may well be that he thought, you know,

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I better try to strike a deal before all the

0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:00.720
<v Speaker 1>time runs out. But this is a regime's not forget

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that has survived for sixty years because of how wiley

0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it is and how smart it is in negotiating its

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 1>own survival. Uh. They don't do anything out of panic,

0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:14.919
<v Speaker 1>at least we've never really seen it. Uh. They dance

0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:17.479
<v Speaker 1>right up to the line where you can't turn back,

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and yet they always drag themselves back from the abyss.

0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think there's any reason to believe that

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 1>they've changed. So the Trump administration may well feel that

0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 1>it is its pressure that has brought Kim to this point,

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean that Kim is necessarily on the defensive.

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 1>They may come up with some sort of massive raikivic

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>like plan that will seem too good to pass down

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>or pass on. That would include very quickly getting United

0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 1>States troops out of the peninsula, normalizing relations with North Korea,

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>recognizing them as a nuclear power, and the like. Uh.

0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:56.479
<v Speaker 1>If Trump takes it, it's a worry because this needs

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to be negotiated very very slowly, with everybody understanding what

0:58:59.880 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the implications are. And of course, if Kim comes in

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 1>with this grand bargain and Trump turns it down, then

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Kim gets to turn to the world and say, look,

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I was the one who wanted peace. I offered this

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 1>grand deal, the Americans turned it down. I'll never give

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.960
<v Speaker 1>up my nuclear weapons. We're speaking to Michael Oslin, who

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 1>is a security expert from the Hoover Institution. Uh. Michael,

0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 1>people have been also putting out a lot of unsolicited

0:59:24.160 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 1>advice to the president in terms of what needs to

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 1>happen between now and this proposed meeting, which is supposed

0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to happen in May. Right, that's what we've been told.

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<v Speaker 1>What what do you make of that? Do there have

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<v Speaker 1>to be preconditions, specific preconditions for this meeting that we

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 1>could already assess, or do you have to kind of

0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 1>see what the North Koreans come to us with first?

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how does this dance between now and the

0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>day of actual talks have to go? Yeah? Well, I

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:51.760
<v Speaker 1>think that horse has left the barn. Trump already agreed,

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think you can walk back and say,

0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 1>by the way, here are our preconditions. Kim will walk

0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:59.080
<v Speaker 1>away and say, you know, I'm not going to do that.

0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>So I think that the president, you know, publicly sending

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<v Speaker 1>the South Koreans National Security advisor out to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Kim offered, Trump accepted, and then the White House confirms

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<v Speaker 1>it means you've already given up that question of of

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<v Speaker 1>of preconditions. Your question, I think is very right on

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of speed. Here. This is happening very very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about this potentially taking place over the next

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<v Speaker 1>two months. Two to three months at most is the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline they've given us. Usually these things take years to

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<v Speaker 1>to put into place, and you have all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>negotiations at lower levels, working their way up the chain

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<v Speaker 1>so that when it gets to the presidential level and

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<v Speaker 1>it gets to the level of of a summit, everything

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<v Speaker 1>has been worked out. The danger here is that nothing

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<v Speaker 1>has been worked out, and there's certainly no time to

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<v Speaker 1>work anything out in a methodical, sort of measured way.

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<v Speaker 1>Either it's going to be a dramatic hail Mary to

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<v Speaker 1>solve the Korean crisis, or they're going to go into

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting without or both sides will go into the

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<v Speaker 1>meeting without any real idea of of where they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with this. Again, I think the North Koreans definitely no,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to press hard on getting rid of sanctions.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to press hard for some type of recognition

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<v Speaker 1>for getting troops off the peninsula, all in exchange for

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<v Speaker 1>probably largely unverifiable uh freeze on their nuclear program, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least we can never be fully sure that they

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<v Speaker 1>will have lived up to their words if this comes

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<v Speaker 1>to not If let's say there's this meeting and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a propaganda victory for the North Koreans, we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's acceptable from our end. Really, from the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world's end on this one. Are we on

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<v Speaker 1>a march toward military conflict with North Korea if we

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure this out this time around, Well, I I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you're ever on a march necessarily because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure it out. Look, we've been dealing with North

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<v Speaker 1>Korea for twenty five years now, I'm the nuclear is

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<v Speaker 1>'re now we failed, you know, we've failed to stop

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<v Speaker 1>them from getting a nuclear weapon. So we're in a

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<v Speaker 1>new era. But I I am of the school that

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that deterrence is not yet completely useless. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hr McMaster, national Security Advisor, has indicated his belief otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the regime in North Korea certainly understands

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<v Speaker 1>that it cannot win a contest with the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and since survival is its number one goal, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's overriding goal, and it's it's always going to be

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<v Speaker 1>careful in terms of pushing us into some type of

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<v Speaker 1>military conflict. Um. But I don't think also that walking

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<v Speaker 1>away from the table from this meeting without having solved

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<v Speaker 1>anything means that you're back to square one. This is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a breakthrough of some kind, and we've seen it before.

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<v Speaker 1>The North Koreans have proposed the nuclearization talks before the

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<v Speaker 1>logic of diplomacy is that we have to follow up,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to be extraordinarily successful. But you're right, Buck.

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<v Speaker 1>What this does give and what can never be taken away,

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<v Speaker 1>is that this gives Kim Jong n a massive propaganda coup.

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<v Speaker 1>When you sit down at the table as a equal

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<v Speaker 1>to the North Korean president, which is you know what

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<v Speaker 1>the diploma, diplomatic protocol will be, uh that legitimizes him

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<v Speaker 1>in a way no US president has been willing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Trump administration is making a strategic change because

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<v Speaker 1>they think this will actually get more cooperation towards the

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<v Speaker 1>end goal of the nuclearization, that that's fine, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>done it with such rapidity and so precipitously that you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't prepared allies, you haven't prepared the U. S. Public.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not sure if all the different parts of the U. S.

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<v Speaker 1>Government have weighed in with with what they think this means.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are a lot of risks here, but obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's a gamble that the President feels he's well placed

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<v Speaker 1>to take. Before we head off here into into the weekends,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael I wanted to ask for your rosiest but realistic

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<v Speaker 1>UH scenario here and meaning, if things go as well

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<v Speaker 1>as they could realistically be expected to with this meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>based on North Korea's red lines, and what it would

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<v Speaker 1>what it would need for there to be some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a bargain here, What would that What would that

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<v Speaker 1>look like? What would a huge Trump I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>establish now kind of where the goalposts are for what

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<v Speaker 1>is Wow? Trump just managed to pull off the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>diplomatic national security victory since the end of the Cold War. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has to avoid the raky Vic temptation

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<v Speaker 1>to try to solve this in one fell swoop, as

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan did with Gorbachev. In Rekyvic, I think the most

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<v Speaker 1>realistic and best case scenario is that they come away

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<v Speaker 1>with an agreement to now can begin very serious high

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<v Speaker 1>level talks about the nuclearization where the US has given

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<v Speaker 1>up nothing, has not agreed to remove any of the sanctions,

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<v Speaker 1>and quite frankly, all you can do is play that out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we know that the North Koreans undercut almost

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<v Speaker 1>any deal they make. We know that they play for

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<v Speaker 1>time again. I think the logic of diplomacy is that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to see where it goes. But given that

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<v Speaker 1>it's at this level, any talks from now on we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have Kim Jong UN's stamp on them, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they come away saying we are now going

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<v Speaker 1>to begin a serious round of negotiations and the White

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<v Speaker 1>House reserves the ability to uh to put on more

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<v Speaker 1>sanctions or do other things, you know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>better than them walking away saying, well, we failed and

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<v Speaker 1>now let's prepare for war, or that they rush into

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<v Speaker 1>a deal where no one is really sure of what

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<v Speaker 1>the implications are. Michael Oslin is the author of the

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<v Speaker 1>End of the Asian Century, which is available on Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>for you folks who want to do some deep dive

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<v Speaker 1>reading on this on your own time, and he's also

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<v Speaker 1>a fellow at the Hoover Institution. Michael, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us anytime. Buck, Thank you, Tim. We

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<v Speaker 1>are going to roll into a quick break here. We

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<v Speaker 1>are going to come back and get into a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a freestyle because it's the third of the show soon,

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<v Speaker 1>So stay right there and we'll be back. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of political tumult out in California. This is

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<v Speaker 1>of the fun kind, though, because you got Democrat on

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat issues. Latest is that our our may man, our

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<v Speaker 1>home slice. Bernie Sanders, what do you mean? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? The Republican show? Don't talk about me?

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<v Speaker 1>What about it? He refuses. He refuses to endorse UH

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Diane Feinstein in advance of her primary in California.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I think this is a this is a

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<v Speaker 1>harbinger of things to come. My friends, Here's why, Horbinger.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you using those words? What is that supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to mean? Horbinger? So Bernie is the left wing darling

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<v Speaker 1>of the elected poor, the Democrat party. Right. Bernie is

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<v Speaker 1>where the Democrats were emotionally in the last presidential election.

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<v Speaker 1>I had so much fun at CNN whenever they would

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally allow me to be part of a post Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>debate panel, just looking at all the all the hillary Bots,

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<v Speaker 1>all little Hillary supporters, and say, we all know that

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie is the authentic one, right, authentic baby, real, the

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<v Speaker 1>real deal. We all know that Bernie's what the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>would like to vote for, but instead they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for How wow, Hillary, she's the best, She's amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>and they went with Hillary. And now we all know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, and they wish they could have voted for Bernie.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Democrat left is going to reassert itself. And

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, there is nothing better that I

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<v Speaker 1>can think of for the Republicans that the Democrats could

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<v Speaker 1>due to themselves. Then actually let the American people what

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats really want and think and believe you see, fine

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<v Speaker 1>Stein is the and now keep on, this isn't when

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<v Speaker 1>I say old school. I think fine Stein and Senators

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<v Speaker 1>are are pretty close in age, right, They're both They're

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<v Speaker 1>both up there. But fine Stein is the uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>more centrist model of left wing Democrat. At least she's

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as being too conservative because she has voted this

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<v Speaker 1>according to the progressives in the Democrat Party, because she

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<v Speaker 1>has voted with Trump. This is what they say thirty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the time. So she goes against Trump seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the time. Not that's not progressive. And keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind these are things like you know, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about every vote that she has, right, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the defense budget, you know, you look at all

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<v Speaker 1>these different votes that senators will will take in any

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<v Speaker 1>at any point in time, and sure enough, Diane Feinstein

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<v Speaker 1>is with Trump three out of ten times, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is too much for the Democrats. So there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a progressive feeding frenzy. Uh last year,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry this year, well maybe there was one last

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<v Speaker 1>year two. But there's the progressive feeding frenzy that's coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this would be absolutely fantastic for the

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans in the midterms because if if the American people

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<v Speaker 1>see that it is in fact the left wing uh,

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<v Speaker 1>social justice warriors that have become the ideological the ideological

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<v Speaker 1>vanguard of the Democrat Party, the American people are are

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<v Speaker 1>going to run from that. So I want more. I

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<v Speaker 1>want Bernie like fun Fun She's practically right wing. That's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think that's way better because what you

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<v Speaker 1>get with the Hillary fine Stein win the Democrat Party

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<v Speaker 1>is meant it's really this much of the same him

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<v Speaker 1>left wing stuff you'd get anyway, but they pretend to

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<v Speaker 1>be more sort of centrist and down the middle and

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<v Speaker 1>technocratic and reasonable. Right fine Stein, And look, I think

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<v Speaker 1>on something's fine Stein is more reasonable than say Bernie Sanders.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not gonna pretend like there's no differences,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm much more concerned about a a fine Stein

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<v Speaker 1>surge in the mid term or people, I shouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>fine Stein surge, but Democrats, especially in purple states that

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, They've got this guy in Pennsylvania's former marine.

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<v Speaker 1>He's telegenic, you know, you know these are formidable candidates folks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>these are people that they're Democrats and they people can say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna give this guy or this

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<v Speaker 1>gall of shot. They look like they know what's up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have Bernie Sanders style candidates in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these races, or Bernie Sanders approved. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a wipeout for the Democrats relatively speaking. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be pretty close no matter what happens. But

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<v Speaker 1>I like to get excited about the my political prognostications

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone's gonna for get me. Remember, I'm gonna write

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<v Speaker 1>a film. I'm gonna record it. Okay, Bernie, you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Our three coming up Stay with me team, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>our three. Our Freestyle Friday is continuing here. Gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you about violent video games, then share some thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>All my time down here in Savannah and visiting with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the UH fantastic sponsors of the Buck Section show,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as getting to get a tour and hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with some of the folks here at w t

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<v Speaker 1>k c UH, which is the station or I Hard

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<v Speaker 1>affiliate down here in Savannah. So I'll get a note

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<v Speaker 1>some of that, and then we'll finish up as is

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<v Speaker 1>our custom team with roll Call. But this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that came across my radar and it fits into the

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<v Speaker 1>category of just when is it gonna stop? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I am a Netflix and nap kind of guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. Now, Netflix and nap is Netflix and then

1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:07.720
<v Speaker 1>taking naps Apparently Netflix and chill means something else, which

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<v Speaker 1>I have found out. So there's that. But I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix and Nap kind of go on the weekends. I

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<v Speaker 1>love watching things on demand, and yeah, I read as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I can on the weekends too, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I do a lot of my additional research for

1:12:21.479 --> 1:12:24.439
<v Speaker 1>this show for podcasts, and I just also love reading.

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<v Speaker 1>Um I love reading, and I'm not afraid to say it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I'm somebody who enjoys some good netflixes.

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<v Speaker 1>I just burned through Ozark with Ms Molley. We loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like that thought it was very well done.

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<v Speaker 1>And if if somebody likes the show, um breaking Bad,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Ozark is a very good not as good

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<v Speaker 1>as Breaking babb It's a very good similar genre. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Netflix is doing great stuff. They don't get

1:12:51.160 --> 1:12:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, some of their shows or strikeouts, but they

1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:55.280
<v Speaker 1>they definitely get on base a lot, and they've even

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<v Speaker 1>hit some some home runs. And then I see this

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<v Speaker 1>and it just makes me frustrated, folks, As somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>works in the media works very very hard and tries

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<v Speaker 1>to put out the best content possible all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be that we lived in a world where

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<v Speaker 1>content that the best content would win out. But instead,

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<v Speaker 1>what you have a lot of the time is that

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<v Speaker 1>the platforms are dominated by by political interests, meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>there are people who have their own versions of what

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<v Speaker 1>they think politics should be. They make the decisions about

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<v Speaker 1>what shows are on what shows aren't, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you get abominations like bill Ny the Science Guy on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the worst, least funny, least informative, steamy pile

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<v Speaker 1>of yak crap I have ever watched on any Netflix, Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>any of these new platforms ever period. It was unwatchable.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was you know, gosh, I have like

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<v Speaker 1>had flashbacks to try to watch this. It was terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I find out that Netflix is thinking about having

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama appear as the this is from CNN as

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<v Speaker 1>the on camera moderator of a new series, or he

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<v Speaker 1>might stay off camera as a producer of a show

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<v Speaker 1>about uplifting American stories. Or maybe he'll do both. So

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<v Speaker 1>Obama is about to become quite a force on Netflix. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things on this one. It's a great show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna tell stories about my background, how I saved

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<v Speaker 1>the world a sport brother. So there's that. Uh. But Obama, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I I give credit where it's due. He knows much

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<v Speaker 1>better to control the culture. He will be much more

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<v Speaker 1>influential as somebody who is on Netflix. We're pushing show

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<v Speaker 1>is on Netflix. You know, that's the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming generation starts going hard left. That's the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they mold minds into being progressive social justice warriors,

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<v Speaker 1>not by having another you know, Obama doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>appear on CNN or MSNBC. Brop rop broop blop Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done plenty of that already, eight years of NonStop

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<v Speaker 1>coverage and the Obama's amazing. This is the most brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>man in the universe. Oh no, it's hard for me

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you people because you're not as smart

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm I'm really smart, and I'm amazing and perfect

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<v Speaker 1>and basically demigod, So you may worship my feet. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>So he already had that, right, So now he's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing the Netflix thing. Uh But I I

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<v Speaker 1>take this very seriously, folks, because the influence that he

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<v Speaker 1>could have in the culture is much more than the

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<v Speaker 1>influence that he would have as just another former president

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<v Speaker 1>talking head. You know, you see how this this happens. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Clintons understood that, especially given their look. The Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>Foundation in a sense was brilliant. I mean, it polluted

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<v Speaker 1>charitable giving and it's disgusting to use charity as a

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle for self advancement and all kinds of kickbacks in favors.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't even get me started on uranium one, but no

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<v Speaker 1>on all the other things as well, the open stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that was going on, not even just the stuff we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't yet found out the full details of. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a total disgrace. But it was brilliant from the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of the Clintons. You basically get to have a

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<v Speaker 1>tax free marketing campaign for the Clinton brand, right and

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<v Speaker 1>and and you get to burnish your brand by being

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<v Speaker 1>involved with a charity and running a charity. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was brilliant stuff. It's just the Clintons are grasping and

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting and so they they made it too obvious what

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<v Speaker 1>was really going on. And that's also why the Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>Global Initiative shut down after Hillary didn't win. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, people don't care abou charity. They were given

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<v Speaker 1>so much money, but then Hillary is no longer going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the president and they don't care about charity.

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<v Speaker 1>The donations dry up, they have to shut things down.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh almost like the whole frigging thing was corrupt, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Clintons had their charity. Obama, I've been I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying this for a while. Actually, he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a major force in the media, you know. He They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to make Obama a crossover of political and

1:17:30.080 --> 1:17:32.519
<v Speaker 1>cultural importance, and the left will do everything they can

1:17:32.600 --> 1:17:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to elevate him. And the left is very powerful. He

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<v Speaker 1>look at the HBO, left wing Netflix, left wing Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>left wing we don't control any of these platforms, folks.

1:17:44.160 --> 1:17:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when it comes to like heavyweight punchers in

1:17:47.439 --> 1:17:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the media realm, we really We've got Fox News Talk Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, and you know, some some websites,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't have the platforms. And you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the same information dominance that they had

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, in the pre Internet age, because they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna control all the major portals. You're already seeing this

1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:13.840
<v Speaker 1>with the social media platforms, but they're gonna use I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Obama is going to be the new Democrat media brand

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<v Speaker 1>in a sense. He's going to be political, he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be cultural, He's going to be you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of the uh, all of the media reverence and you know,

1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the the intellectual political stuff that they imputed that they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pushed for the Clintons. Obama will have all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but also the you know, the media reach

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<v Speaker 1>and savvy and relationships of you know, Ellen and Oprah

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, I don't know who's you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>big these days, but you know, he might be a producer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that this is both something to be

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<v Speaker 1>aware of where area of because I think it will

1:19:02.120 --> 1:19:05.000
<v Speaker 1>have a real impact. And also now I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come to you. Now, I'm just gonna complain for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just upset about I'm just upset about this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I like watching Netflix, and when Bill Night came on,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to harp on that one, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to it was like, Netflix, you really gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>me like this. This is how it's got to be. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Ny the not funny, not even real science guy.

1:19:25.840 --> 1:19:28.760
<v Speaker 1>He's he's a mechanical engineer. Okay, he runs around in

1:19:28.800 --> 1:19:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a white coat. I don't know a lot of mechanical

1:19:30.479 --> 1:19:35.479
<v Speaker 1>engineers that wear a white coat. Um. But then, and look,

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<v Speaker 1>if the show was good, I would admit it. I

1:19:37.040 --> 1:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>admit when the left is doing something well, and I

1:19:39.080 --> 1:19:41.000
<v Speaker 1>usually want to either steal it or copy it, or

1:19:41.120 --> 1:19:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, find a way to do it on our side. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, enough with the think tanks. How many of

1:19:47.840 --> 1:19:51.800
<v Speaker 1>these right wing billionaires are gonna be running around and

1:19:52.040 --> 1:19:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, sending big check. We we've got things.

1:19:54.439 --> 1:19:57.240
<v Speaker 1>We've got wonderful thing tanks the right wing. We've got policy.

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<v Speaker 1>We were good there. We need competitive media outlets, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just mean news. I mean I mean entertainment media.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we need to I know this gonna sound crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a Netflix of the Right. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we can get that, they could license TV shows that

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, more in in the realm of what

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<v Speaker 1>you know, traditional America would like to see, our traditionalist

1:20:23.080 --> 1:20:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Americans would like to see. You know, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all about the transgender struggle and progressive social justice issues,

1:20:30.600 --> 1:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>which is what you see on Amazon and Netflix. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we could actually get some older shows that actually that show, uh,

1:20:36.760 --> 1:20:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, traditional struggle of good versus evil, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and then create some new content. I mean,

1:20:42.720 --> 1:20:44.800
<v Speaker 1>people keep talking about it, but it doesn't happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's really no excuse now. So I'm putting out the

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<v Speaker 1>call to all the billionaires who listened to this show.

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<v Speaker 1>All I don't know, maybe one or two of you

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. Uh, we need a Netflix of the

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<v Speaker 1>Right because you're seeing this with Obama, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring him in. They're gonna bring in you know, Chelsea Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the media political apparatus, the entertainment political apparatus,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to shut us down and drown us out

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<v Speaker 1>unless we get savvy. We're gonna talk about speaking of media.

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<v Speaker 1>Violent video games coming up after the break. Violent video

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<v Speaker 1>games not something that I spend much time thinking or

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, but I know that it often comes up

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<v Speaker 1>when there's one of these terrible shootings, school shooting, or

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<v Speaker 1>any number of mass casualty shootings, and I usually think

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, you know, that's just not that's not a solution, clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that the people that are opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to violent video games say it would solve, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just think that it would that that there are deeper

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<v Speaker 1>cultural roots to the problems of some of the violence

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<v Speaker 1>that we see in our society, and and I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I gotta say, you know, I grew up this

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<v Speaker 1>is a part of my life. I don't talk all

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<v Speaker 1>that much about. I grew up playing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>video games. I read a lot of books too. I

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<v Speaker 1>played a lot of video games. I was I went

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<v Speaker 1>through a phase. I'm one of four. I've got two brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have some cousins also who are are close

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<v Speaker 1>to my age, you know, guy cousins and man, we

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<v Speaker 1>all we played video games, and I remember all these

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<v Speaker 1>different systems. Uh, I had Sega Saturn. My mom was great,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she tried to spoil the kids a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit sometimes when she could. And at Sega Saturn and

1:22:29.280 --> 1:22:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Turbographic sixteen Nintendo obviously, I mean Duck Hunt Duck Hunt

1:22:34.680 --> 1:22:38.040
<v Speaker 1>for Life game was amazing. Uh. So many of these

1:22:38.080 --> 1:22:41.440
<v Speaker 1>different consoles over over time, and and then eventually PlayStation.

1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And I've told you before about fond memories I have

1:22:44.720 --> 1:22:48.439
<v Speaker 1>of playing Sid Meier's Civilization and games like Medieval Total

1:22:48.520 --> 1:22:53.839
<v Speaker 1>War that I think actually have a really useful impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the way that people think about strategy. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>at a young age and you learn a bit of history,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Medieve Total War. They've based it on all these

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<v Speaker 1>different military units completely accurate. The uh names of the

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<v Speaker 1>provinces at this period, the I Medieval time, very accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, if you play that game, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you know what a ghazi is, you know what

1:23:15.920 --> 1:23:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a janissary is, you know what gendarme comes from a

1:23:20.120 --> 1:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>French term. This is all. Yeah, these are all historical,

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<v Speaker 1>uh data points that are useful and it's fun to

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<v Speaker 1>play these games. But when I think of games, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what I think of maybe Street Fighter two

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<v Speaker 1>and and I'm not somebody who's in favor of banning

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<v Speaker 1>video games. I'm just opposed to censorship. I tend to

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<v Speaker 1>the more libertarian side of arguments whenever it involves content.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta say this is just I'm not advocating

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<v Speaker 1>for a policy here. I'm just saying. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going on this weekend, you're gonna be playing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of games. I get it. But this montage that they

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<v Speaker 1>played at the White House for Trump, when they're having

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<v Speaker 1>the discussion about video games and violent video games, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the most violent stuff I've ever seen. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy. I mean you get people up close and

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<v Speaker 1>personal with hatchets literally lopping off heads and anatomically correct

1:24:16.240 --> 1:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and there's blood spurting everywhere, and it's it's a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say, I do I have my limits? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are there are shows that are too violent for me.

1:24:25.000 --> 1:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>There are movies that are too violent for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up watching a lot of action films and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's different you know, there's different levels, right, There's

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<v Speaker 1>something very different about let's say, as you know, I

1:24:36.120 --> 1:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>love action movies, but Commando, you know, layoff, lit off

1:24:41.439 --> 1:24:46.559
<v Speaker 1>some steam. Bennett, um My Schwarzenegger was not good there,

1:24:46.600 --> 1:24:49.360
<v Speaker 1>but we'll just let that go. Nudolf's no, I can't

1:24:49.400 --> 1:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>do it. I can't do it at all. It's because

1:24:51.120 --> 1:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>people think of schwartzening gob you know, because of Conan

1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:58.439
<v Speaker 1>O'Brien och the gobintor. That's not really how he sounds

1:24:58.479 --> 1:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>in movies though, so um sometimes he does get to

1:25:02.000 --> 1:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the choppa, but that's different with Schwartzenegger running around wearing

1:25:08.120 --> 1:25:10.599
<v Speaker 1>just a tactical vest nothing nothing underneath it and short

1:25:10.640 --> 1:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>sleeves obviously because that's how he rolls, and firing an

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<v Speaker 1>M sixty one handed from the hip on a full

1:25:15.960 --> 1:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>run and moan dudes down from two yards away and

1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:20.880
<v Speaker 1>none of them can hit him. By the way, if

1:25:20.920 --> 1:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen Commando, this is actually what happens in it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very different than say the movie Saw or Hostile

1:25:30.120 --> 1:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>or some of these other I think they call them

1:25:32.840 --> 1:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>torture porn. Uh, these other incredibly violent and really depraved

1:25:37.200 --> 1:25:39.479
<v Speaker 1>movies out there. I'll tell you, I was actually on

1:25:39.520 --> 1:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a first date once, and a young woman that I

1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:45.760
<v Speaker 1>was on the date with. There's many many. This is

1:25:46.120 --> 1:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>over a decade ago, said that, you know, her favorite

1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>movies were all of the Saw movies and Hostile, and

1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I just remember thinking, I don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work out, because I thought that was a little intense,

1:25:57.360 --> 1:26:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought that was a bit much. Uh uh.

1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>But you know, there there are limits for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that means that necessarily it translates

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<v Speaker 1>into policy. I'm just telling you that I was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit I was a bit surprised and a little taken

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<v Speaker 1>aback by just how violent some of these video games

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<v Speaker 1>really are, and it was a surprise to me. I

1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm I'm out of touch with some of

1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:22.479
<v Speaker 1>these things because I gave up playing video games really

1:26:22.520 --> 1:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>after college. Not that I got any problem with I mean,

1:26:24.920 --> 1:26:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're still fun. I still I still think

1:26:26.400 --> 1:26:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably pretty good at them, played a little bit

1:26:28.520 --> 1:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>here and there. But things have changed with them, and

1:26:31.840 --> 1:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>they're so hyper realistic now in the graphics and the

1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>first person aspect of these games also, it's so it's

1:26:39.280 --> 1:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>already so close to virtual reality. I feel like that's

1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why virtual reality hasn't taken off more,

1:26:46.200 --> 1:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>because you play these first person games and you're already

1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:51.479
<v Speaker 1>it's like your storm and the Beaches of Normandy there

1:26:51.560 --> 1:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>right in your head. I mean, you're you know, all

1:26:53.800 --> 1:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>these different call of duty games and I didn't play

1:26:56.920 --> 1:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>much of those. Um trying to think of my my

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<v Speaker 1>my real first person shooters, uh, you know, Awakening, that's

1:27:05.400 --> 1:27:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a good way to put it. Was Golden I on

1:27:07.320 --> 1:27:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the Nintendo sixty four. I played that with my friends

1:27:10.479 --> 1:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>when we were in maybe early high school so much,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a great game at the time, and

1:27:16.479 --> 1:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that was my first time. I was like, Wow, first

1:27:18.040 --> 1:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>person shooter is really But that's if you look at

1:27:21.040 --> 1:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>that now, it looks like it's from another it looks

1:27:23.240 --> 1:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's from the Stone Age or something. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>not nearly as advanced of stuff I have now. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just looked through this montage and it's up on

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<v Speaker 1>different sites that they showed the president, just with the

1:27:32.640 --> 1:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>most graphics stuff from video games you could find. And

1:27:35.760 --> 1:27:38.519
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, I was a little wow, that's actually

1:27:38.600 --> 1:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>really violent. I was a little uh you know. Taking

1:27:42.080 --> 1:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>it back is actually a nautical term for when the

1:27:43.800 --> 1:27:46.719
<v Speaker 1>wind shifts and it hits the sale at an angle

1:27:46.840 --> 1:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that all of a sudden kind of makes the boat

1:27:49.640 --> 1:27:52.400
<v Speaker 1>uh slow or even feel like it comes to a

1:27:52.479 --> 1:27:56.439
<v Speaker 1>stop taking it back, but I thought it was. Yeah,

1:27:56.479 --> 1:27:58.479
<v Speaker 1>it's a little much, a little more than I had expected.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that, and I don't think that necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>factors into any policy recommendations, although it does make me

1:28:05.920 --> 1:28:08.479
<v Speaker 1>think more about what is going on in the culture.

1:28:09.240 --> 1:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, some things I think we can we can

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<v Speaker 1>at least advocate for a certain level of decorum and taste.

1:28:19.800 --> 1:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And you know that that's and so I guess that's

1:28:23.280 --> 1:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. I'm not saying band super violent movies

1:28:25.920 --> 1:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>video games. I'm just saying I wouldn't let my kids

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<v Speaker 1>play the most violent video games. I would hold off

1:28:30.360 --> 1:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>on that until a little later on. I don't have

1:28:33.920 --> 1:28:35.599
<v Speaker 1>kids yet, so this is easy for me to say.

1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm thinking about what that would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the volent video games. I would pretty much

1:28:45.200 --> 1:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>put a put a hold on that. You know, there

1:28:46.800 --> 1:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>were movies I was allowed to see action movies that

1:28:48.840 --> 1:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>were rated are but you know, I didn't watch a

1:28:50.760 --> 1:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of at least not till I got into high school,

1:28:52.880 --> 1:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't allowed to watch things. You know that

1:28:56.000 --> 1:28:59.519
<v Speaker 1>came out in the theaters and everybody, if you remember

1:28:59.600 --> 1:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>basic instinct, very violent very uh graphic movie, not just

1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:06.439
<v Speaker 1>with violence, and I wasn't allowed to see that, you know,

1:29:06.640 --> 1:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>with there are limitations, There are limitations that uh certainly

1:29:10.320 --> 1:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>were in place when I was a young you know,

1:29:11.960 --> 1:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a teenager. So I've just changed my thinking a little bit.

1:29:15.040 --> 1:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>On the video games. We've come a long way from

1:29:17.439 --> 1:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>sid Meier's Civilization, where the worst thing you'd see is

1:29:19.880 --> 1:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Montezuma getting really upset at Genghis Khan. All Right, we'll

1:29:24.000 --> 1:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>hit a quick break, we come back. I've got some

1:29:25.479 --> 1:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>thoughts from Savannah and then some roll call. Stay with me.

1:29:31.640 --> 1:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I have had a great time down here in Savannah, Georgia.

1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I love this place. I'm gonna find every excuse I

1:29:37.880 --> 1:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>can to come and visit. And also want to thank

1:29:39.800 --> 1:29:43.439
<v Speaker 1>our I Heart affiliate here uh W t k C.

1:29:44.360 --> 1:29:47.479
<v Speaker 1>They have been so generous and and warm and and

1:29:47.600 --> 1:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>help me out here making sure that I've got a

1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>great studio for my my days visiting in Savannah, and

1:29:53.560 --> 1:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>so thank you to all all the folks here. And

1:29:55.720 --> 1:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>also just had a great time visiting with our friends

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<v Speaker 1>at nine Line Apparel and Black Rifle Coffee. Got to

1:30:03.240 --> 1:30:05.799
<v Speaker 1>hang out with both of them. And actually I'm hoping

1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>that tomorrow I'll be able to get out to the

1:30:08.120 --> 1:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>nine Line facility again. UH. Today I took a tour

1:30:12.040 --> 1:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>with the CEO and some of his uh, some of

1:30:15.360 --> 1:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>his corporate officers who go check it out. UH. Tyler

1:30:18.120 --> 1:30:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Merritt and his crew also got to see Evan Hafer

1:30:20.720 --> 1:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of Black Rifle and Matt Best because they've opened up

1:30:24.000 --> 1:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a franchise inside of the Nine Line Apparel store. It's

1:30:27.360 --> 1:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>an incredible facility. They've got out here just outside of George,

1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:35.519
<v Speaker 1>outside of Georgia, outside of Savannah, about fifteen twenty minutes

1:30:35.560 --> 1:30:38.439
<v Speaker 1>from downtown maybe twenty minutes and UH, it's a really

1:30:38.520 --> 1:30:41.639
<v Speaker 1>cool facility. So I very much enjoyed getting to see

1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>all them today. And some members of Team Buck showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say thank you so much to

1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>all of them for deciding to h to make the trek.

1:30:50.479 --> 1:30:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Some of you were in the neighborhood. Some of you

1:30:52.560 --> 1:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>drove quite a bit. I saw some uh, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some freedom hut T shirts in effect. And to those

1:30:58.640 --> 1:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>of you that made made the trip, I really do

1:31:01.240 --> 1:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. And you made me look good in front

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<v Speaker 1>of Miss Molly, who was with me today. She came

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<v Speaker 1>out too, and saw everybody out at the nine Line store.

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<v Speaker 1>So all in all, very very successful day. Really enjoyed myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And tomorrow morning, Saturday morning, I'm planning on going out

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<v Speaker 1>again to the nine Line facility. It's they've got a factory,

1:31:21.040 --> 1:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>they got a store. It's incredible, folks. If you're within

1:31:24.360 --> 1:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>driving distance, they're gonna be basically throwing a big party

1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow and I'm planning to be out there tomorrow Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get there around probably nine thirty am, so that's

1:31:35.600 --> 1:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the plan. So if you wanted to just go check

1:31:38.320 --> 1:31:40.559
<v Speaker 1>out some great gear, Matt Best will be there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be a line of like four thousand people

1:31:43.400 --> 1:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>just to see Matt, and uh, that's just gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>really fun, so you can come check it out with

1:31:49.560 --> 1:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>all the rest of us. They had today a bouncy

1:31:53.200 --> 1:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>castle for the kids, so it's a family event. They

1:31:55.640 --> 1:31:58.599
<v Speaker 1>got a bouncy castle for the kids. They had Clydesdale Horses,

1:31:58.760 --> 1:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>drawing horse drawn carriage, taking people on carriage tours, all

1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>kinds of food trucks with delicious food, barbecue, burgers, you know,

1:32:07.640 --> 1:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you name it, and they really do it right. Man,

1:32:10.720 --> 1:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>these guys, the Black Rifle and nine Line guys know

1:32:13.640 --> 1:32:16.719
<v Speaker 1>exactly what they're doing. It was a really fun event

1:32:16.760 --> 1:32:19.679
<v Speaker 1>today and I got to drink some delicious ice coffee.

1:32:19.680 --> 1:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Miss Molly was so happy. She goes, I don't think

1:32:21.280 --> 1:32:23.719
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have almond milk, because you know, she doesn't

1:32:23.760 --> 1:32:26.479
<v Speaker 1>really drink the cow milk and which I just prefer

1:32:26.560 --> 1:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to as milk because that's true. And hopefully miss Molly

1:32:29.160 --> 1:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>is not listening to this because she might yell at me.

1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>But they have almond milk at the nine I mean

1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:36.839
<v Speaker 1>well at nine Line Slash Black Rifle because it's delicious

1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>coffee and they want to make sure that all their

1:32:38.360 --> 1:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>customers are happy. So really good time today, and I

1:32:41.200 --> 1:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>think those folks as well. So it's it's We've got

1:32:44.160 --> 1:32:46.639
<v Speaker 1>a whole whole squad of of thanks that I'm giving

1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>out W T K s C. I heart um affiliate

1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>here in Savannah, Georgia. Also nine Line and Black Rifle.

1:32:54.720 --> 1:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>And then just a quick before we get into some

1:32:56.920 --> 1:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>roll call, a little a little fun story where you

1:33:00.360 --> 1:33:02.559
<v Speaker 1>I took a drive. I'm pulling a Tom Friedman here,

1:33:03.680 --> 1:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>but this this is actually a good one. I took

1:33:05.280 --> 1:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>a drive over here and I took a an uber

1:33:09.120 --> 1:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>as is my as is my habit. And the gentleman

1:33:12.160 --> 1:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>who drove me over here was really insightful and and

1:33:18.320 --> 1:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>nice and friendly dude. And you were talking a little bit,

1:33:22.240 --> 1:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think he was surprised because I have some

1:33:26.080 --> 1:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I have some knowledge of some places of the world

1:33:28.320 --> 1:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>that are surprising to folks. So when he said what

1:33:31.479 --> 1:33:33.719
<v Speaker 1>when he started talking, and I said, you're from West Africa.

1:33:33.840 --> 1:33:36.479
<v Speaker 1>You're You're from Nigeria, aren't you. And he says, he, oh, yeah,

1:33:36.479 --> 1:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>how do you know? I said, well, what part of

1:33:38.680 --> 1:33:40.439
<v Speaker 1>the country you from? And he and he told me,

1:33:40.520 --> 1:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>he said, I'm from the southeast. I said, oh, you

1:33:42.240 --> 1:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>must be Ebo and he goes, you know my tribe

1:33:44.080 --> 1:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to I said, sir, I'm a man who knows many things.

1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>And we had a great conversation about politics and I

1:33:51.160 --> 1:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>love it. This guy told me that I'm not gonna

1:33:53.320 --> 1:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>use his name just because you know, he's a civilian.

1:33:55.360 --> 1:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not I wanna bring him in this, but

1:33:56.760 --> 1:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>he might be listening because he downloads. He's now a

1:33:58.840 --> 1:34:01.439
<v Speaker 1>subscriber to the Bucks Exton show. We by the end

1:34:01.479 --> 1:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of our ride, I turned him into a subscriber, so

1:34:05.120 --> 1:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, here we have a legal immigrant to the

1:34:07.800 --> 1:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>country who is highly educated, highly motivated, really great conversationalist,

1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>fun guy to talk to. And he is a Republican,

1:34:18.720 --> 1:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>my friends, that's right. He's like, what is it with

1:34:20.880 --> 1:34:23.479
<v Speaker 1>people that are hating on Donald Trump? He's like, you know,

1:34:24.000 --> 1:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>people tell me these things about how he's racist. He's like,

1:34:26.120 --> 1:34:28.720
<v Speaker 1>he's not racist. Why do people say this? And I

1:34:28.800 --> 1:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know, man, it's crazy, isn't He go? Yeah,

1:34:31.280 --> 1:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>because what's with Hillary? Hillary is no good. I'm like,

1:34:34.160 --> 1:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I know. He's like, it's I'm not saying that she's

1:34:36.520 --> 1:34:40.519
<v Speaker 1>inhuman or anything. She's just not very not particularly easy

1:34:40.600 --> 1:34:42.559
<v Speaker 1>to relate to as a human. I said, yeah, that's

1:34:42.680 --> 1:34:45.720
<v Speaker 1>very student analysis, my friends. So we had a really

1:34:45.760 --> 1:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>good chat. But I was just great to talk to

1:34:48.120 --> 1:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody down here in Savannah who um is representative. I

1:34:53.200 --> 1:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>think of this new type of Trump voter or new

1:34:58.880 --> 1:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>type of Republican people that are like, you know, what,

1:35:00.960 --> 1:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the economy is good, things are going well. You know,

1:35:03.680 --> 1:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you can't trust the mainstream media, you can't trust some

1:35:06.479 --> 1:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of these big outlets. And I said, sir, I couldn't

1:35:09.000 --> 1:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>agree with you more. Man. We had a really a

1:35:11.160 --> 1:35:13.519
<v Speaker 1>really fun chat. So it's as you can get a sense,

1:35:13.560 --> 1:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I think from my tone, it's just been a really

1:35:15.200 --> 1:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>good visit, uh down here in Savannah. I'm a I'm

1:35:19.240 --> 1:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>a big fan of this place. I'm a big fan

1:35:20.960 --> 1:35:23.320
<v Speaker 1>of New Orleans. I mean, I'm gonna be hitting up

1:35:23.320 --> 1:35:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Austin pretty soon, definitely hitting up already on the schedule

1:35:27.000 --> 1:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>those of you who are listening on Whoa, Whoa. I

1:35:29.000 --> 1:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>will be out in Fort Wayne, Indiana in about three

1:35:31.840 --> 1:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>weeks for Talk Tank, which is an event that that

1:35:35.800 --> 1:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that excellent affiliate Wow Oh, will be putting on. So

1:35:40.040 --> 1:35:41.760
<v Speaker 1>if you can come to that and I'll be hanging

1:35:41.800 --> 1:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>out all day, So if you want to chat, no

1:35:44.000 --> 1:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>miss Molly for that one though, Miss It was kind

1:35:46.040 --> 1:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of a special treat for the folks today that came

1:35:48.000 --> 1:35:50.720
<v Speaker 1>out from the team, including some original Saturday Squad that

1:35:50.800 --> 1:35:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Miss Molly was in effect. That usually doesn't happen, but

1:35:53.880 --> 1:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>she sure enough was there for this one. So a

1:35:57.120 --> 1:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>great time down here. As soon as I'm done with

1:35:58.680 --> 1:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the show, I'm gonna be hanging out with some of

1:36:01.040 --> 1:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>our friends from the veteran community who are involved in

1:36:06.520 --> 1:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Black Black Rifle Coffee and Nine Lines. So We're gonna

1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:11.439
<v Speaker 1>have quite a night. I'm glad I do not have

1:36:11.520 --> 1:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a radio show tomorrow morning, because that would be pretty tough.

1:36:14.720 --> 1:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's uh, that's that's my story, and for now

1:36:17.640 --> 1:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just sticking to it. It should be fun. I'm

1:36:20.040 --> 1:36:21.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna go into a quick break. When I come back,

1:36:21.600 --> 1:36:24.559
<v Speaker 1>we will do the actual roll call that I promise

1:36:24.600 --> 1:36:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you we would do, so we'll hear from all of you.

1:36:27.520 --> 1:36:32.479
<v Speaker 1>So stay with me back in just a few quick minutes. Alright,

1:36:32.560 --> 1:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>live from Savannah, Georgia, w t k C. This is Friday,

1:36:38.520 --> 1:36:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Well Freestyle Friday roll Call. Hey, teen Buck, it's time

1:36:50.600 --> 1:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>for roll call. I feel like that music gets us

1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>all fired up and ready for the weekend, at least

1:36:56.800 --> 1:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>for those of you that that dig it. Some of

1:36:58.600 --> 1:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>your probably like, Buck, why don't you stick to the

1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>classic rock? My friend? You should probably not play too

1:37:05.240 --> 1:37:07.559
<v Speaker 1>much dub STEFP. People might be like, that's not really

1:37:08.280 --> 1:37:12.599
<v Speaker 1>my thing. Um So first up here, Oh wow, that's great.

1:37:12.640 --> 1:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>We got Eric who sent me a photo of the

1:37:17.280 --> 1:37:19.439
<v Speaker 1>two of us hanging out at the nine Line store

1:37:19.520 --> 1:37:21.519
<v Speaker 1>here in Georgia because he just posted this up on

1:37:21.600 --> 1:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Facebook said thanks for taking the time, brother. Sorry, I

1:37:23.800 --> 1:37:25.679
<v Speaker 1>couldn't stay and talk, had to pick up my daughter

1:37:25.720 --> 1:37:28.599
<v Speaker 1>from school. While Eric, I totally understand my friend. Thank

1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:32.559
<v Speaker 1>you very much for coming out. Um, and let's get

1:37:32.640 --> 1:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>to uh the next one here, because other than that's

1:37:35.000 --> 1:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>just a photo. Was a great photo, Eric, Great to

1:37:37.120 --> 1:37:41.439
<v Speaker 1>meet you. Uh, Seth Rights, hey buck podcast listener here.

1:37:42.080 --> 1:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Just worry to let you know that I enjoy your

1:37:44.120 --> 1:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>occasional rants about things that bother you. They're educational and hilarious. Well, Seth,

1:37:50.320 --> 1:37:52.679
<v Speaker 1>first of all, thank you for your note. And since

1:37:52.920 --> 1:37:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you've opened the door, I'm going to walk through it.

1:37:56.240 --> 1:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>So I happened to check into a hotel here in

1:37:59.479 --> 1:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>downtown Savannah. The hotel will remain unnamed, but they told

1:38:06.040 --> 1:38:09.720
<v Speaker 1>me when I'm checking in, oh, there's some construction going

1:38:09.800 --> 1:38:14.479
<v Speaker 1>on inside the hotel. They're doing some renovations. And I said, okay,

1:38:15.240 --> 1:38:18.280
<v Speaker 1>well where is it and they said, well, it's kind

1:38:18.280 --> 1:38:20.599
<v Speaker 1>of in a few places, and and I said, well,

1:38:20.720 --> 1:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna tell you right now, I am a

1:38:22.600 --> 1:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>grumpy old man when it comes to unnecessary noise. And

1:38:27.640 --> 1:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a situation where I'm gonna need

1:38:29.360 --> 1:38:32.639
<v Speaker 1>you to put me as far as possible from the noise.

1:38:33.439 --> 1:38:36.240
<v Speaker 1>And the young woman at the front desk, I mean,

1:38:36.280 --> 1:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I think actually she's my age, but I'm just gonna say.

1:38:38.200 --> 1:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>The young woman at the front desk said yeah, yeah, sure, sure, whatever,

1:38:41.200 --> 1:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and kind of hustled me through the check in processes,

1:38:43.439 --> 1:38:45.479
<v Speaker 1>and well, I think we're gonna have And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe we should take a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a peek here and see what what rooms are available.

1:38:49.320 --> 1:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>She says, no, no, I think you'll be fine. I said, well,

1:38:52.640 --> 1:38:54.720
<v Speaker 1>why do you why do you take that opinion? Well,

1:38:54.720 --> 1:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>because we're totally sold out, so this is your only

1:38:57.200 --> 1:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>room option. M So I go up in. Sure enough,

1:39:01.080 --> 1:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I get to the room and it sounds like someone

1:39:02.960 --> 1:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>is taking a jackhammer to the wall, and I said,

1:39:05.240 --> 1:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is not really gonna work for me.

1:39:06.960 --> 1:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>It's not really what I signed up for. So I

1:39:08.800 --> 1:39:10.519
<v Speaker 1>go downstairs and I have to go through this whole

1:39:10.560 --> 1:39:13.800
<v Speaker 1>thing of Look, I'm I am unfailingly polite for the

1:39:13.880 --> 1:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>first few exchanges when I'm annoyed about something, but I

1:39:17.200 --> 1:39:18.640
<v Speaker 1>know that there's a place that they can put me

1:39:18.720 --> 1:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that's not there's no way that this place has no

1:39:21.000 --> 1:39:22.840
<v Speaker 1>rooms that I just I refuse to believe that it

1:39:22.920 --> 1:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>is a hundred percent occupied, and sure enough I got

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<v Speaker 1>to get somebody else to come out, and they had

1:39:29.080 --> 1:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to do the whole you know, clack clack, clack, clack clack,

1:39:30.880 --> 1:39:33.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, pressing all the different buttons on the computer.

1:39:33.720 --> 1:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>And yes, indeed, oh there's a room that's far far

1:39:37.120 --> 1:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>away from all of the noise that they could have

1:39:39.120 --> 1:39:43.240
<v Speaker 1>given me. So my thing that annoys me is whenever

1:39:43.439 --> 1:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you are trying to change either your hotel room, your

1:39:47.040 --> 1:39:50.639
<v Speaker 1>plane ticket, whatever it may be, and the initial reaction

1:39:50.760 --> 1:39:52.439
<v Speaker 1>is to tell you that there's nothing they can do,

1:39:53.000 --> 1:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and then you find out because I know that that

1:39:54.840 --> 1:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>is true. Sometimes that is true something on planes, it's

1:39:58.439 --> 1:40:01.640
<v Speaker 1>often the case, right, I feel bad or the well,

1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:03.519
<v Speaker 1>actually that's not true. I rarely feel bad for the

1:40:03.560 --> 1:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>people that are dealing with you on an airline, because

1:40:08.240 --> 1:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the airlines are they needed, they need a swift kick

1:40:11.720 --> 1:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>in the bottle a lot of the time. I'm just

1:40:12.920 --> 1:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna say it, but I do feel badly for the

1:40:16.720 --> 1:40:18.599
<v Speaker 1>man or a woman that stands there and has all

1:40:18.640 --> 1:40:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the all the rage directed at them when they are

1:40:21.840 --> 1:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>flight cancelations and everything else, and people think that they

1:40:24.040 --> 1:40:26.800
<v Speaker 1>can move them and they can't. But when they can

1:40:27.600 --> 1:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>when you tell me there's no other seed option, or

1:40:29.880 --> 1:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>when you tell me there's no other room option, or

1:40:31.880 --> 1:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>there's no other table at a restaurant, and then I

1:40:34.760 --> 1:40:37.479
<v Speaker 1>have to find out that that wasn't true, which I

1:40:37.600 --> 1:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>basically always end up finding out. Can't we just skip

1:40:40.960 --> 1:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that step? Can I please talk to your supervisor? Can

1:40:44.000 --> 1:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I please talk to your manager? I don't want to

1:40:45.640 --> 1:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm a very reasonable guy, you know, a

1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>little curmudgeon ly, but very reasonable. So there you go, Seth.

1:40:53.000 --> 1:40:55.800
<v Speaker 1>There's one thing that that bothers me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that would be oh, oh, now you I mean,

1:41:00.320 --> 1:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm completely interrupting our roll call here for

1:41:03.800 --> 1:41:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm interrupting our previously scheduled programming. Another thing, folks, I

1:41:08.280 --> 1:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know how else to say this, but the things

1:41:11.360 --> 1:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>that go in your car, that you hang from the

1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:17.439
<v Speaker 1>dashboard that you think smell good, you become accustomed to

1:41:17.520 --> 1:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>it because you're in the car for a long time

1:41:19.080 --> 1:41:21.479
<v Speaker 1>and you think maybe it smells nice. But for anyone

1:41:21.520 --> 1:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>who's not spending that time in the vehicle as much

1:41:24.439 --> 1:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>as you are, it is an overpowering smell. And I

1:41:28.240 --> 1:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>don't actually necessarily want to get into a vehicle and

1:41:31.320 --> 1:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like I am being face dunked into a tank

1:41:36.560 --> 1:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of pine needles and lemon. You know, I don't need that.

1:41:40.200 --> 1:41:43.479
<v Speaker 1>It's not good. So the smell that you want in

1:41:43.560 --> 1:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a vehicle, it's just clean vehicle smell, which doesn't really

1:41:47.960 --> 1:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>smell like anything, and that's what you want. I am

1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>very opposed to. And I actually know people that will

1:41:53.160 --> 1:41:55.799
<v Speaker 1>tell you those chemicals they used to create those smelly

1:41:56.479 --> 1:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>tree things that they put in cars are very a

1:41:58.760 --> 1:42:01.519
<v Speaker 1>are are noxious, They're not good for you. I'm not

1:42:01.560 --> 1:42:03.559
<v Speaker 1>sure if I take that route. I just think they

1:42:03.640 --> 1:42:06.439
<v Speaker 1>smell bad. And I go in some parts of the

1:42:06.479 --> 1:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>country and they're very common. I just go, mmm, I

1:42:09.400 --> 1:42:14.600
<v Speaker 1>don't understand this. It's a little overpowering, particularly the the

1:42:14.880 --> 1:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the fruit smells. So that's another thing that annoys me.

1:42:18.920 --> 1:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't really need to feel like someone's taken

1:42:21.520 --> 1:42:25.240
<v Speaker 1>cherries and shoved them up my nose and his fear.

1:42:25.320 --> 1:42:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Especially you're in kind of a long drive. That's not fun,

1:42:29.200 --> 1:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's an I'm gonna setsy. You open the

1:42:33.160 --> 1:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>door for me to complain, and I'm like, here I go.

1:42:35.760 --> 1:42:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Next up Erica on roll called buck. I think you

1:42:38.680 --> 1:42:42.839
<v Speaker 1>belong in the South. Your love of y'all boat choose kindness,

1:42:43.360 --> 1:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>keeping a casual is very much in keeping with the

1:42:45.400 --> 1:42:50.639
<v Speaker 1>low country style oss in Charleston. Enjoy Savannah. Well, thank

1:42:50.680 --> 1:42:53.280
<v Speaker 1>you so much, Erica. I love Charleston too, So I'm

1:42:53.280 --> 1:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna find we have an affiliate in Charleston, so I'm

1:42:55.320 --> 1:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to come down there for a market visit

1:42:57.160 --> 1:43:00.080
<v Speaker 1>and go visit. Are are great affiliate in Charleston. And

1:43:01.200 --> 1:43:04.639
<v Speaker 1>but it's funny people in New York actually often say

1:43:04.680 --> 1:43:09.519
<v Speaker 1>that I seem I have a somewhat Southern I don't

1:43:09.560 --> 1:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>know I was. I don't know what the word would be,

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<v Speaker 1>vibe maybe even though obviously I don't sound Southern at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But the name is Buck and so that's you start

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I do like boat shoes, I have long,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of poofy, floppy hair. And I used to wear

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<v Speaker 1>Sear sucker pants just all the time because I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were comfortable. I didn't realize that was Sear sucker

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<v Speaker 1>pants and flip flops actually, which I have since found

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<v Speaker 1>out is like southern fraternity boy standard issue. But my

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<v Speaker 1>family is partially from the South, so maybe that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I I get some of my dad's side of the

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<v Speaker 1>family has a whole lot of Kentucky and Virginia in

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<v Speaker 1>the background. So there you go. Um next up here, Duke,

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<v Speaker 1>he writes, Buck, you're right. Even when you think you're wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. Trust Trump. I voted for McMullen. Oh, Duke, buddy, Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we all make mistakes, my friend. I would not have

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<v Speaker 1>made the McMullen move myself. I I had Evan on radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very fair to him as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>radio host. I think I asked him questions. He's clearly, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>an intelligent fellow, and I think he's well intentioned. I

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<v Speaker 1>think with the anti Trump stuff, he's gone way too

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<v Speaker 1>far and to the point where I can't even have

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<v Speaker 1>a based on his positions. I can't even have a

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<v Speaker 1>constructive conversation with them. And he gets a little came

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<v Speaker 1>esque with the you know, the country was founded on

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<v Speaker 1>the principles of honesty and integrity and Trump is destroying

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. I'm like, you know, let's let's try

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<v Speaker 1>to look at let's try to look at big picture here.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's uh, that's where I am on all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um stand next up here, and uh, he writes, Hey, Buck,

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<v Speaker 1>I've really been enjoying your show in Austin, Texas well.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand speaking of wonderful affiliates and visit it's uh. K

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<v Speaker 1>l b J in Austin is one of the radio

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<v Speaker 1>stations that has been kind enough to add the freedom

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<v Speaker 1>HUD to add the Buck Section show to its lineup,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are honored, and I really hope that the

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<v Speaker 1>folks in Austin are enjoying the show. And I I

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<v Speaker 1>will admit I have yet to go to Austin my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life. I've spent so much time in Dallas because

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<v Speaker 1>the blaze, so a lot of I've logged, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of man hours in Texas, but just not in Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a place I really want to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna go check it out. Actually, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go check out k l b J in Austin as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I can. Will do an event down there, Barbecue,

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<v Speaker 1>Barbecue and Buck. There. You know what, that's the name

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<v Speaker 1>of our event right there, Barbecue and Buck. We just

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled on it. We're geniuses, folks. See what we do,

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<v Speaker 1>see the magic that we make happen. So there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Dan. Please spread the word to

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<v Speaker 1>your friends in Austin too to tune in on on

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<v Speaker 1>k l b J. And that's gonna be it, unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>for the show. For this Freestyle Friday, I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>we've covered a lot of territory today. I hope you've

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<v Speaker 1>all had as much fun as I have. I am

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be go meeting up with some folks and friends

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<v Speaker 1>on the waterfront here to go chill with some of

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<v Speaker 1>our Nonline and Black Rifle and Miss Molly and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole squad. So I'll try to put out some photos tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>If you see me on the waterfront team down here

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<v Speaker 1>in Savannah, come by and say hi. Maybe we can

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<v Speaker 1>drink some mescal together. Until next time, from down in

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<v Speaker 1>the South Shields High