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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for hanging out with me today.

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Speaker 1: gonna deep dive into what's going on with the UH

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Speaker 1: So you've got the Bush administration trying to negotiate their

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Speaker 1: way through it with Kim Jong Ill, Manteline I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Back before that, the Clinton administration trying to negotiate with

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Speaker 1: Kim Jong Ill and Maddelin Madeline Albright running point on

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Speaker 1: that didn't work out, big, big failure, massive fail as

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Speaker 1: the kids say, thumbs down, as the old millennials like

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Speaker 1: me would say, um. And then you had the Bush administration, which,

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Speaker 1: as much as I know, we find many things about

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Speaker 1: President Bush to be admirable, and also on North Korea,

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Speaker 1: massive fail They did not. Now, they had some policies

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Speaker 1: that were right. I'm not saying that it's it was

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Speaker 1: all for nought. They had very smart people, think about it.

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Speaker 1: The Clinton people had smart people trying to handle this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Madeline Albright was way overrated for

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Speaker 1: a bunch of reasons. But you know that there were

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Speaker 1: there were there were people that were looking at this

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Speaker 1: in sanctions and these are the right moves. But if

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Speaker 1: the point of that was to stop North Korea from

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Speaker 1: advancing its missile and nuclear programs, that is they were failures. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Clinton failed, Bush one failed, Obama failed, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Bush two failed. Obama failed. So you look back at

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Speaker 1: this now and you say to yourself, Okay, you've only

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Speaker 1: had a few presidents that have even had to think

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Speaker 1: about a nuclear North Korea. So I mean to compare

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Speaker 1: it to like, wow, look at Jimmy Carter North Korea.

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Speaker 1: That's irrelevant, okay, because the reason that we can't ignore

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Speaker 1: this is the possibility of the complete emmolation of a city.

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Speaker 1: That's not something you can just write off. That's not

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Speaker 1: something you can say, you know what, We're just gonna

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Speaker 1: figure out this problem is some other time. No, And

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Speaker 1: that's why there's been an urgency to this, and we

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Speaker 1: are working on a timetable. We are working on a

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Speaker 1: clock here. And so we keep being told by both

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Speaker 1: sides of the political aisle that they're getting North Koreas

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Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to definitively I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if we know what they have quite honestly, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know there's that, but to definitively have an i

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Speaker 1: CBM that is nuclear tip, that is nuclear cable that

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Speaker 1: could hit anywhere in the continental United States, and then

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Speaker 1: they'll try to get more of those missiles, a missile

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Speaker 1: threat that could defeat our countermeasures, and then you're relying

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Speaker 1: entirely on to terrens and we're hoping that North Korea

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Speaker 1: is not crazy enough to try something. We all know

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Speaker 1: that we're running out of room or running out of

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Speaker 1: road here to work with. And the Trump administration is

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Speaker 1: looking at this and saying, well, what's been tried in

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Speaker 1: the past. This is and this brings us back to

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Speaker 1: the matt Out point there, the snarky well, why did

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Speaker 1: ever a president not doing this? Because every president has

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Speaker 1: failed thus far to actually stop the program, never mind

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Speaker 1: you to eradicate the nuclear program in North Crere. I

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Speaker 1: just mean to stop it for a considerable period of time,

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Speaker 1: and to stop the missile program and to get compliance,

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Speaker 1: meaningful compliance with the career. Whe they've done in the

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Speaker 1: past is pretending to negotiate and then just you know,

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Speaker 1: psych I mean, it is Lucy with the football, my friends.

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Speaker 1: It is just a total all the whole thing, a

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Speaker 1: total scam. Oh yeah, all of our agreements, we we

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Speaker 1: renounced those. Sorry, thanks for all the food aid though, suckers.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're saying to the international community. So um,

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Speaker 1: that's what I think we have to keep in mind.

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Speaker 1: If we're gonna be judging the Trump administration's ability here

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Speaker 1: or Trump Administration's decision making to go forward with this.

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Speaker 1: It's different, but you need something different. This brings you

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Speaker 1: back to the very beginning of the show. Disruptive, a

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Speaker 1: change from the norm, outside of what is expected. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that what Trump promised? And isn't that the reason that

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Speaker 1: he is president right now? If we wanted somebody who

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Speaker 1: was going to do what the panels of analysts that

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Speaker 1: you know, ABC and CNN and etcetera, etcetera wanted him

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Speaker 1: to do, wouldn't it what I mean? And assuming it's

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Speaker 1: But there you go. We could have done that, but

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Speaker 1: we didn't, did we. We've got a president that takes

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Speaker 1: a different approach, that doesn't care what the consensus opinion is.

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Speaker 1: He cares what he thinks the right move is on

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Speaker 1: these issues, and he's going with it. And I think

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Speaker 1: that we should see what happens. Let him play it out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to eight four four to five

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Speaker 1: eight four four, buck, we will hit a quick break

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Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. Cavalier threats to start a

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Speaker 1: war are dangerous and shortsighted. I am worried about some

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Speaker 1: of the recent actions from the new administration that seemed

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Speaker 1: to raise tensions. Our allies are now expressing concerns about

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Speaker 1: America's credibility and reliability. And by the way, picking fights

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Speaker 1: with Kim Jong un just puts a smile on his face. Wow. Actually,

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Speaker 1: we do not need to hear from Hillary. I want

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Speaker 1: to note what was Hillary's to take us back to

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Speaker 1: another time that we will all remember quite well. Hillary

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Speaker 1: was Secretary of State for what four years something like that.

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Speaker 1: What was her big accomplishment as America's chief different in

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Speaker 1: those four years, other than flying all over the world

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Speaker 1: establishing foreign contacts so that there be even more people

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Speaker 1: able to buy influence that she was peddling via the

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation, what what did she really? What did she accomplish?

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Speaker 1: In fact, I recall when asked some of her State

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Speaker 1: Department spokespersons drew a blank, and I thought it was

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Speaker 1: very unfair that those spokespersons were criticized at the time

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Speaker 1: for drawing a blank on Hiller's accomplishments. It was an

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Speaker 1: air fault. Hillary had no accomplishments. Right, There's nothing you

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Speaker 1: can do about that. That was just the truth. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the silence was the ultimate truth when it came to

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Speaker 1: Hillary's ability to get deals done as America's chief diplomat

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Speaker 1: under the Obama administration. And don't even get me started

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Speaker 1: on BEng Ghazi. And we'll just talk about that for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the show. Uh. And then there are

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Speaker 1: others from the Obama ainistration that have come out of

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Speaker 1: the woodwork to criticize this, including h MSNBC's Evelyn Farcas

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Speaker 1: play clip three. And if what they really will be

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Speaker 1: satisfied with is respect and normalization, great, we can give

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Speaker 1: that to them, but we have to maintain the pressure

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Speaker 1: because remember what got them to the table, the sanctions

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately, probably some of the bluster coming out of

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Speaker 1: the White House. WHOA, look at that. Look at that.

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Speaker 1: She's admitting it, folks. She's like, ah, it's just like

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Speaker 1: so upsetting. But like Trump was, maybe maybe Trump's like

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Speaker 1: an evil genius. I know, I know it makes them sad,

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Speaker 1: that makes them very sad. But I give her credit

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Speaker 1: miss Farcas for admitting that, in fact, Trump's approach here,

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Speaker 1: while breaking with the foreign policy orthodoxy, was in fact

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Speaker 1: perhaps just a little just a little bit, a little bit,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the fuel to get this whole

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Speaker 1: thing going. You know, when you have a regime that is,

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Speaker 1: in fact, in a sense, a necrocracy, it is ruled

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Speaker 1: by the dead because Kim Jong UN's grandfather, Kim Il sung,

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Speaker 1: is still considered the the father of the state, and

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Speaker 1: it's still really the North Korean command or in chief

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Speaker 1: in a sense, not not really, but in North Korean

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Speaker 1: h propaganda, Um, he's still officially the the supreme leader.

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Speaker 1: And when you're dealing with that, and you have someone

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Speaker 1: who is the leader of the free world who is

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Speaker 1: finally willing to push back on that, you know, everyone

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Speaker 1: right now is assuming that Kim Jung un is just

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Speaker 1: trying to play us. But what if there was a

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Speaker 1: realization that they couldn't keep the propaganda going, if they

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Speaker 1: kept this if it was you know, Kim Jong un

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Speaker 1: standing up to the world, staying up to America all

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Speaker 1: the time, and doing so fearlessly, and you know, if

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Speaker 1: you've ever seen North Korean propaganda, it's its own whole

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Speaker 1: area of study. Uh. But what if it made the

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Speaker 1: regime look weak that somebody was willing to say things

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Speaker 1: like Kim Jong un is a little punk and we're

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Speaker 1: not going to stand for this anymore. That's a form

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Speaker 1: of pressure in and of itself. Right, It had been

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Speaker 1: the traditional conventional wisdom that you can't you can't talk

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Speaker 1: tough to Kim John don You have to say things

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Speaker 1: like the the international community will come together and in

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Speaker 1: bonds of in bonds of trust and legality to slowly

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Speaker 1: eliminate the rogue behavior. No, no, no, Trump is just like, no,

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Speaker 1: we're not standing for anymore. This guy's a punk and

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Speaker 1: a coward, and he's gonna get it if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: watch it. And sure enough, now they want to talk.

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Speaker 1: So maybe it's maybe it is all a head fake.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta say, you start adding up the the

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Speaker 1: data points here, and it looks like maybe as ms

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Speaker 1: fark Is just admitted it was some of Trump's bluster,

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Speaker 1: I know. Good stuff. Welcome to our two of the

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 1: I've got news talk to you about. As I said,

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Speaker 1: we are doing a bit of a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: the talks that Trump is gonna have with Kim Jong

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Speaker 1: un of North Korea later this hour coming up. Actually

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Speaker 1: just at the bottom of the hour, so right around

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Speaker 1: UH well, and just a little bit, we'll have Michael

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Speaker 1: Oslin joining us of the Hoover Institution. He is an

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Speaker 1: excellent UH security policy analyst on all East Asia issues.

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Speaker 1: You'll want to hear what he has to say about

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Speaker 1: where this is all going and what it means. And

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Speaker 1: and then the third hour today we'll get into some

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Speaker 1: stuff that comes to mind talking about my Savannah trip.

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Speaker 1: I'm down here in Savannah, Georgia, broadcasting live from our

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Speaker 1: I Heart affiliate, So we are gonna be talking about that.

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Speaker 1: But first I've got to give you just some updates

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Speaker 1: here on a on a breaking news story that a

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Speaker 1: veterans home in California is on lockdown, the reports of

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Speaker 1: shots fired and an our man uh taking three hostages

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Speaker 1: according to Fox News here during active shoot shooter situation

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Speaker 1: at a California veterans home in Yunville, California, at the

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Speaker 1: young Ville Veterans Home. I do not have any additional

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Speaker 1: information right now. Then SWAT is on the scene and

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Speaker 1: they are trying to deal with what they what is

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Speaker 1: a hostile situation right now. If we get any more

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Speaker 1: breaking news on this one, I'll bring you up to speed.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any word on casualties. Obviously, active shooter

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Speaker 1: situation puts everyone on edge. It always puts everyone on edge,

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Speaker 1: and that this involves one of the um larger veterans homes.

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Speaker 1: It's got veterans who more than a thousand veterans uh

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Speaker 1: stretching back all the way to World War Two. So

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Speaker 1: are our thoughts and prayers are with all those at

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Speaker 1: the home, all the families of those at the home,

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Speaker 1: And as soon as we have more on that, we

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Speaker 1: will bring it to you. I have an update on

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Speaker 1: another active previous shooter situation. Pardon me, what happened in

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Speaker 1: Florida at the Stoneman Douglas School. I have said to

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Speaker 1: you and I stand behind this, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: been proven increasingly correct with time that whenever we thought

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Speaker 1: it couldn't get any worse. From the perspective of what

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Speaker 1: law enforcement involved in this scenario, right, I don't like

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Speaker 1: to just say law enforcement generally, because we've got hundreds

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Speaker 1: of thousands of law enforcement officers across the country doing

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal job, putting their lives at risk every day

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Speaker 1: and making this an incredibly safe and prosperous country in

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Speaker 1: the process. Right, but law enforcement involved in this shooting

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Speaker 1: was in some cases absolutely uh appalling in their behavior

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Speaker 1: and in other cases, which I'll talk to you about

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Speaker 1: as well, very admirable. So you know, there you get

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Speaker 1: both sides of it with the Stoneman Douglas shooting law

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Speaker 1: enforcement response. But I was very critical of officer or deputy.

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Speaker 1: He's a deputy in the ship, Brown County Sheriff's Department,

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Speaker 1: Deputy Peterson's actions and some of you, as you are

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Speaker 1: always you know, I am always open to good faith arguments, challenges, critiques,

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Speaker 1: you know, calling if you think I'm you think I'm off.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear from folks out there. I think

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Speaker 1: that I'm off, I think that I'm getting something wrong.

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Speaker 1: Always doesn't mean I'm gonna agree with you, doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let it slide on air. But I want

643
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: to hear from you and some of some of those

644
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: you listen. So I thought that I was being too

645
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: hard on Peterson. Uh, now that we have more information,

646
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: I'm I wasn't being hard enough on Peterson. A couple

647
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: of very important points here about the Stoneman Douglas shooting

648
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Speaker 1: in the law enforcement response to it. One is that

649
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Speaker 1: it is in fact and was before this. Broward County

650
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Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department policy that during an active shooter situation, you

651
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Speaker 1: go and confront the threat. That is what armed law

652
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: enforcement is supposed to do. That is the policy. So

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Speaker 1: people who were initially saying, oh, no, the policy as

654
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Speaker 1: a perimeter, it's not their fault. They're not trained for it,

655
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Speaker 1: that is false. Broward County Sheriff's deputies are trained and

656
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Speaker 1: expected to directly confront the threat. Obviously that's what should

657
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Speaker 1: have been done, and that was what they were supposed

658
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Speaker 1: to do. Now, once we heard about deputies on the

659
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Speaker 1: scene who didn't go in, who were waiting outside the school,

660
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Speaker 1: we knew there would be some maneuvering on their part

661
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Speaker 1: to make it seem like it wasn't quite as bad

662
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Speaker 1: as it was from the perspective again of their actions.

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Speaker 1: And we even heard Peterson, I think through his lawyer,

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Speaker 1: Deputy Peterson say well, I wasn't sure if a shooting

665
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Speaker 1: was happening inside or outside the building, which you can

666
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Speaker 1: go back and listen. When that was the I said,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that, no way, I that's not even

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00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: issue of training. Right, Every single oneting listing is like

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Speaker 1: I would know if the shooting was inside or outside

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Speaker 1: the building, it's not that hard to figure out. Uh.

671
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: I said that at the time, and now we have

672
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Speaker 1: the audio tapes. Now that this stuff is is disturbing,

673
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Speaker 1: We're not going to play a lot of the news

674
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: networks and shows and everything. I've just been running the

675
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, terrified calls being made. That's not where we

676
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: are past. Far enough past the event, and enough other

677
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: people are doing that right now that I don't find

678
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: that to be necessary at this stage. If it's out there,

679
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: it's on the internet, you can hear that. But this

680
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: the response and analyzing law enforcement response so that if

681
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: this comes up again, UM, everyone is very clear about

682
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: what needs to be done and also what the expectations

683
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: of the of of the community, of all of us

684
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Speaker 1: of civilians would be in this kind of situation, it

685
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: is important to look at the response. So that's why

686
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play coming up here and into a second,

687
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: a short clip from officer Peterson's nine one one call.

688
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Speaker 1: This is in the initial moments, and Miami Herald has

689
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: done some very good reporting on this. This is the

690
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: initial moments. They've got a timeline now, uh and the

691
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: nine one one calls have been released, but this part

692
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Speaker 1: of it gives us some very important information. Play clup eleven.

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Speaker 1: You're not put the twelve undred building daily away at

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Speaker 1: good point, Stay away from building, stay away, stay five

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Speaker 1: five hundred feet away from the building. My friends, come on,

696
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: I know you know this, but wow, five ft away.

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00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: There is an active shooter inside the building. And he

698
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: obviously knows that that's what's going on, and he's saying

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Speaker 1: stay five ht away, which is against policy and against

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Speaker 1: their training. Uh, this is a disgrace. It's a good

701
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: thing that he resigned, because otherwise he would have had

702
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: to be uh dragged into a public I as well.

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00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: It actually doesn't even I was gonna say it could

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Speaker 1: be dragged into um more of a of a hearing

705
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: than he already was. But it doesn't matter. We all

706
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: know it's being tried in the public in a sense.

707
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Now we're all seeing this. It's really distressing though. Um

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00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: it was as bad as we thought initially. He waited

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00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: outside shootings going on inside. Kids are getting killed. They

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00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: have no defense, they're defenseless. There's an active shooter. He's

711
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: on the scene. He has trained, he has law enforcement,

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00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: he has sworn to uphold lawn to protect the innocent

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00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: and didn't do a darn thing. We know that other

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Speaker 1: law enforcement showed up at the scene and was appalled

715
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Speaker 1: at what the Brower County Sheriff's Department was doing. They're like, well,

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Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? You know they knew. And

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Speaker 1: then there's another part, And I'm almost mixed in my

718
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: feelings of this one because on the one hand, it

719
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Speaker 1: is a reminder of what law enforcements country is really

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Speaker 1: all about, so that's good. On the other hand, I'm

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Speaker 1: annoyed that they're getting in trouble. But you had to

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Speaker 1: swat team members detectives Jeffrey Gilbert and Carl Schlausser, who

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Speaker 1: rushed to Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School the moment they

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Speaker 1: heard there was an active shooter there. They just went

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Speaker 1: They're just you know, wheels up inbound hot and they

726
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: got suspended. I know you're thinking what to swat members

727
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: running running towards towards the gunfire. Exactly what we expect

728
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: and know our law enforcement across the country does. And

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00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: these guys have additional training and tactical skills to make

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Speaker 1: them even more effective at confronting that threat. But they

731
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Speaker 1: are emblematic of what American law enforcements all about. People

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Speaker 1: are in danger, they're is a criminal who is harming innocence.

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Speaker 1: We're on it. So in that sense, it's okay and

734
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Speaker 1: that that's what we're that's actually forget about this Peterson

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Speaker 1: Deputy Peterson for second American law enforcement every day, time

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Speaker 1: and again across the country is represented by detectives Gilbert

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Speaker 1: and Schlauser. But they got suspended because they disobeyed orders.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we we can't let that one

739
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Speaker 1: slide there. They're disobeying orders to go to the scene.

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Speaker 1: Miramar Police Department spokeswoman Tanya Ruez said it quote created

741
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Speaker 1: a danger for the officers who were responding. Well, now

742
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Speaker 1: that we know what those some of those responding officers

743
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: were doing, I'm not really sure how we're supposed to

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00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: take this one, folks. You created a danger for the

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00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: officers who were saying stay five feet away from the

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00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: building where there's an active slaughter going on, where students

747
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: are bleeding out. Remember, every second counts. These are trauma wounds,

748
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: they're dying, students are dying from blood loss five feet

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Speaker 1: from the building. As you all know, that's pretty far.

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Speaker 1: That's not take up, you know, take cover and see

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00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: if we can. I don't know, I don't know if

752
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: officers would these officers probably wouldn't get into a stack

753
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: and kick in the door, but try to tactically maneuver

754
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: their way in the bill. No, No, that's that's like whoa,

755
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta let's let's go way way out there.

756
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: Make sure we're nowhere in harm's way, five D free

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00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: from building. That's insane. And you got these other officers

758
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: from Miramar Police Department who were like, there are people

759
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: in danger. This is what we do, this is how

760
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: we roll. So God bless them. I mean's it's it's

761
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: good here. And and the that other the other police

762
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: department that was on the scene that was disgusted by

763
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: the actions of this. You know, we're all very thankful

764
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: to them. Were representing what actual law enforcement this country

765
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: is all about and how they do their jobs day

766
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: in and day out. But getting back to the failures here,

767
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: you know with the FBI, the tip line, the FBI

768
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: has said, yeah, we failed the we know they're gonna

769
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: revamp the way they approach the tipline and some capacity

770
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: who knows what that really means. But they dropped the

771
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: ball many times. Um, I I have a you know,

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00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm less clear on what local law enforcement with with

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00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: the passage of a little more time now and thinking

774
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: about it, you know, Broward County Sheriff's Department, and I

775
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: guess they could have pressed charges for the threats. They

776
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: could have tried that maybe, But the actual response that

777
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: day from what we see and what we now know,

778
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: and if you listen to those audio tapes, you'll hear it.

779
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: They had cops on the scene exactly what was going on.

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00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: They just didn't want to go in They just didn't

781
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: want to get shot at. Deputy Peterson just didn't want

782
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: to get a shot at. That's it. That's what you

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00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: take away from this this audio. And I know a

784
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: lot of law enforcement law enforcement folks are hearing this

785
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: and they're just saying, you know, that's just it's it's

786
00:47:54,760 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: such a bad it's such a bad situation for all

787
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: the other folks that were on the scene who wanted

788
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: to go in there and wanted to be the ones

789
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: that put themselves in harm's way to take those risks

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00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: to protect people who had no chance of protecting themselves,

791
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: and I know this is an issue people get very

792
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: passionate about. I appreciate that, I understand it. I feel

793
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: the same way. But I'm looking at the response. I

794
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: think it's important and we know what happened there. I

795
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: also want to know when we can get and this

796
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: is a diversion of digression from Stone and Douglas, but

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00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: I'd like to know when we can get actual information

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00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: on what happened in Las Vegas. Were speaking about active

799
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: shooter situations. The more I'm looking at that, it just

800
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: keeps getting weirder. What's going on? I get no real

801
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: information about so much that that have the nine one

802
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: one tapes from this have been released, I might have

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00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: missed them, But I feel like there's still a whole

804
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: lot of information that we have access to about Las

805
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: Vegas we could have access to that we haven't seen yet.

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00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: What's going on there. Just that's something to think about,

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00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: something we'll tackle another time. I'm gonna roll into a

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00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: quick break. Your team will be back in just a moment.

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00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: You've appointed someone outside DJ. Are they actually a special counsel?

810
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: And I think that matters because that individual needs have resources,

811
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: need to be able to go to the grand jury

812
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: in Washington, where most of this stuff took place. So

813
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: you can subpoena evidence documents, bring witnesses in, if you

814
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: need search warrants, you can do that. Remember when Hillary

815
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: was investigated, they didn't do any of those basic administrative steps.

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00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: It was basically a proform investigation, a real investigation. Here

817
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: if if this guy goes after this the way Mueller

818
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: is scorching the earth, and you'll have a flurry of

819
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: indictments based on what we already know. As Representative Rhonda Santis,

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00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: I think he's totally correct here. If you applied Mueller

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Speaker 1: tactics to a Hillary investigation, if you set up a

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Speaker 1: second special counsel, which in effect I would not my friends,

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00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: would really be a special counsel. To look at the

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00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: special council, there'll be all kinds of people that would

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00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: be in jeopardy, and I think in legal jeopardy. I

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Speaker 1: think it also would be fair play because the way

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Speaker 1: this is going right now, it just continues to drain

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Speaker 1: resources and just ruin the lives of people caught up

829
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: in the investigation. And you'll notice something about them. They're

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00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: all Republicans, all tied to Trump. This is partisan warfare.

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00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: That's what the Muller probe has turned into. That is

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Speaker 1: what it is. This is the deep state's revenge, so

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00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: to speak. And I think we're all sick of it.

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Speaker 1: And if the shoe were on the other foot all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, or I guess we had shoes on

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Speaker 1: both feet here, if there are two special counsels, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If that happened, then maybe in

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00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: the future Democrats would be a little bit less sore

839
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Speaker 1: losers and wouldn't go for the legal option to remedy

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00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: their political disappointments, wouldn't just try to weaponize the law

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Speaker 1: and the d o J in order to get for

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00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: themselves what they could not get through a free, fair

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Speaker 1: and oh be election speaking free for an open election.

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Speaker 1: By the way, what I'm a Putin When Putin had

845
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: something very uh interesting to say, this is through a

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Speaker 1: tred it always it sounds not nearly as as tough guy,

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00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, as you would expect, right Putin shirtless carrying

848
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Speaker 1: a rifle, three bears slung over his shoulder, that he's

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Speaker 1: taken out himself, right, the whole thing. Whatever he does.

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Speaker 1: Through a translator, it's like, yes, I will make sure

851
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: that Vladimir is the biggest, strongest man. It's never really

852
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: as scary as it should be, but this is putin

853
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: through a translator. Fourteen. You mentioned a number of names,

854
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: some individuals. Can you're telling me that they're Russians. A

855
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: so maybe being Russian, they're actually working for some kind

856
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: of American company. Perhaps one of them used to work

857
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: for one of the candidates. I have no idea, but

858
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: these are not my problem. Like I have no idea,

859
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: these are not my problems. Oh lad uh, you funny man.

860
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: You so. I do think that the second Special Council

861
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: would be very useful, and I think that we should

862
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: get it going. I think the representative to Santists makes

863
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: the critical point there that we should see how the

864
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: Democrats like it. When all of a sudden everything just

865
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: turns into an examination where the facts are not what's

866
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: really or rather crimes or not what they're really concerned

867
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: with finding crimes that they can pin on political enemies

868
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: is what they're trying to do right there, trying to

869
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: create the conditions for violations of statute that then allow

870
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: for retalent. What's just political retaliation on the Vladimir side

871
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: of things that they're the some kind of American company.

872
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: These are these are not my problems. I think he's

873
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: just trolling. Look, he's if if you were here, what

874
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: would you say at this point, Well, maybe we will

875
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: be easier with Hilary, you know, I don't know what

876
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: would you say, maybe a moving of middle Um. I

877
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: think that at this point in time, we were starting

878
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: to see that the Democrat narrative is fraying at the seams.

879
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: They're getting desperate. That's why Trump wanted to stare down

880
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: Muller in the first place. That's why we have a

881
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: situation where finally, finally, um, there may be a breakthrough

882
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: on North Korea, on the Mueller probe, and with China's

883
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: unfair trade practices. Um, we will see, we will see.

884
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: I have my I have some predictions in mind here.

885
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: Oh I just realized. Sorry, I thought we were going

886
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: to break there for a second, and we didn't. Because

887
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm in Savannah, so my timing is a little off there.

888
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: So if it sounded like I was dozing off, it

889
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: just because I was like, am I to stop speaking?

890
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: And I need No, I'm not gonna stop speaking. We've

891
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: got our friend Michael os Lynn joining us from the

892
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: Hoover Institute, and he's gonna talk about North Korea a

893
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: bit more, and then third hour Obama on net licks

894
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that and a whole lot of other stuff.

895
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: I think it is a diplomatic shock and awe, and

896
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: I think that it's because North Korea number one, is

897
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: very close to achieving its objective of being able to

898
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: deliver nuclear warheads to targets in the United States via

899
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: ballistic missile UH and they want to buy time to

900
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: get across that finish line. I don't think Kim Jong

901
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: un acceptment expected that the President was going to take

902
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: up his offer. I think he believed he'd get the

903
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: usual response of six months of diplomatic preparation, nine months

904
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: of talks that would go on forever. So that's a

905
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: former US and BASSI United Nations John Bolton saying that

906
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: we may have knocked Kim off balance here, perhaps with

907
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: Trump saying he would accept it so quickly. A lot

908
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: of different analysis coming in on this one and obviously

909
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: a momentous event here or or is it that's were

910
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: this all comes down to you to help us work

911
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: through some of this. We've got Michael Oslin on the phone.

912
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: He is the UH inaugural WILLIAMS. Griff's Fellow in Contemporary

913
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: Asia Studies at the Hoover Institution. He specializes in global

914
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 1: risk analysis, US security, in foreign policy strategy, particularly in Asia. Michael,

915
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: great to have you, Thanks for having me. Book are

916
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: what what do you make of this? I mean, just

917
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: give me at first, your your thirty thousand foot view

918
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: of what we found out about US North Korea South

919
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: Korea diplomatic relations in the last forty eight hours or so. Well, honestly,

920
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: I think this is actually what both leaders wanted. I

921
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: think from the beginning the Trump administration, I don't think

922
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: they actually wanted to go to war. I think what

923
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: they felt, rightly is that eight years of inaction by

924
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: the Obama administration and failed policies on the part of

925
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: previous US administrations had left the US with almost no leverage.

926
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: So they ramped up the pressure. They increased sanctions. They

927
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: talked about war and fire and fury and bloody knows.

928
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: And that gave Kim pause because he had never heard

929
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: a U. S president consistently talk like that. On the

930
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: other hand, go ahead, Kim Jong un pressed ahead with

931
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: his nuclear and missile programs, ramped it up to the

932
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: level where the United States seriously felt it either had

933
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: to talk or it had to go to war. And

934
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: so he got what he wanted, which is a sit

935
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: down with the President of the US and the possibility

936
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: of getting much bigger prizes. Now there's a lot of analysis.

937
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: We've been playing some of it here on the show

938
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: for people saying this is, you know, clearly just a ploy.

939
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: How could Trump for this? Of course there are other

940
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: people that take a more pro Trump you saying this

941
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: is a breakthrough that Obama didn't manage in an eight years. First,

942
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: let me just ask you about that. How how do

943
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 1: you assess the change here from what we had seen

944
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: for the last eight years or so in terms of

945
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: the Obama approach North Korea? Is it fair to say

946
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: that this is something new and different or is this

947
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: just more of the same. Well, I think that it

948
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: has been something like we might call it an Obama

949
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: plus st ategy. What you know, the Obama administration adopted

950
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: this policy of strategic Patients, which was basically a free

951
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: pass for the Kim regime for eight years to build

952
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: up its weapons systems. Uh. Now, they did do some sanctions,

953
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: they did talk about working closer with with allies. They

954
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: did do shows of force occasionally, but that's what all

955
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: US administrations have done. I think with Trump it was

956
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: that questioning of the madman theory, would he really go

957
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: to war? Does he? Is he really so unpredictable that

958
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: it might be a bolt out of the blue. Now

959
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: you combine that with much stronger sanctions and absolutely much

960
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: stronger rhetoric, and in a sense it it is something new.

961
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: But I think the number one thing to remember when

962
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: dealing with the North Koreans is never ever underestimate them.

963
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: It may well be that Kim Jong un got nervous,

964
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: and it may well be that he thought, you know,

965
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: I better try to strike a deal before all the

966
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: time runs out. But this is a regime's not forget

967
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: that has survived for sixty years because of how wiley

968
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: it is and how smart it is in negotiating its

969
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: own survival. Uh. They don't do anything out of panic,

970
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: at least we've never really seen it. Uh. They dance

971
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 1: right up to the line where you can't turn back,

972
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: and yet they always drag themselves back from the abyss.

973
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any reason to believe that

974
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: they've changed. So the Trump administration may well feel that

975
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: it is its pressure that has brought Kim to this point,

976
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that Kim is necessarily on the defensive.

977
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: They may come up with some sort of massive raikivic

978
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: like plan that will seem too good to pass down

979
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: or pass on. That would include very quickly getting United

980
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: States troops out of the peninsula, normalizing relations with North Korea,

981
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: recognizing them as a nuclear power, and the like. Uh.

982
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,479
Speaker 1: If Trump takes it, it's a worry because this needs

983
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: to be negotiated very very slowly, with everybody understanding what

984
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: the implications are. And of course, if Kim comes in

985
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: with this grand bargain and Trump turns it down, then

986
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: Kim gets to turn to the world and say, look,

987
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: I was the one who wanted peace. I offered this

988
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: grand deal, the Americans turned it down. I'll never give

989
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: up my nuclear weapons. We're speaking to Michael Oslin, who

990
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: is a security expert from the Hoover Institution. Uh. Michael,

991
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: people have been also putting out a lot of unsolicited

992
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: advice to the president in terms of what needs to

993
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: happen between now and this proposed meeting, which is supposed

994
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: to happen in May. Right, that's what we've been told.

995
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: What what do you make of that? Do there have

996
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: to be preconditions, specific preconditions for this meeting that we

997
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: could already assess, or do you have to kind of

998
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: see what the North Koreans come to us with first?

999
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, how does this dance between now and the

1000
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: day of actual talks have to go? Yeah? Well, I

1001
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: think that horse has left the barn. Trump already agreed,

1002
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: and I don't think you can walk back and say,

1003
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: by the way, here are our preconditions. Kim will walk

1004
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: away and say, you know, I'm not going to do that.

1005
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: So I think that the president, you know, publicly sending

1006
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: the South Koreans National Security advisor out to say, hey,

1007
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: Kim offered, Trump accepted, and then the White House confirms

1008
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: it means you've already given up that question of of

1009
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: of preconditions. Your question, I think is very right on

1010
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: the idea of speed. Here. This is happening very very quickly.

1011
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: We're talking about this potentially taking place over the next

1012
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: two months. Two to three months at most is the

1013
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: timeline they've given us. Usually these things take years to

1014
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: to put into place, and you have all sorts of

1015
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: negotiations at lower levels, working their way up the chain

1016
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: so that when it gets to the presidential level and

1017
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: it gets to the level of of a summit, everything

1018
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 1: has been worked out. The danger here is that nothing

1019
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: has been worked out, and there's certainly no time to

1020
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: work anything out in a methodical, sort of measured way.

1021
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: Either it's going to be a dramatic hail Mary to

1022
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: solve the Korean crisis, or they're going to go into

1023
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: the meeting without or both sides will go into the

1024
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: meeting without any real idea of of where they're gonna

1025
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: go with this. Again, I think the North Koreans definitely no,

1026
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: they're going to press hard on getting rid of sanctions.

1027
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: They're going to press hard for some type of recognition

1028
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: for getting troops off the peninsula, all in exchange for

1029
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: probably largely unverifiable uh freeze on their nuclear program, or

1030
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: at least we can never be fully sure that they

1031
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: will have lived up to their words if this comes

1032
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 1: to not If let's say there's this meeting and it's

1033
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: a propaganda victory for the North Koreans, we don't get

1034
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: anything that's acceptable from our end. Really, from the rest

1035
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: of the world's end on this one. Are we on

1036
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: a march toward military conflict with North Korea if we

1037
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: can't figure this out this time around, Well, I I

1038
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: don't think you're ever on a march necessarily because you

1039
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: can't figure it out. Look, we've been dealing with North

1040
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: Korea for twenty five years now, I'm the nuclear is

1041
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: 're now we failed, you know, we've failed to stop

1042
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: them from getting a nuclear weapon. So we're in a

1043
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: new era. But I I am of the school that

1044
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: thinks that deterrence is not yet completely useless. You know.

1045
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: Hr McMaster, national Security Advisor, has indicated his belief otherwise.

1046
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: I think that the regime in North Korea certainly understands

1047
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: that it cannot win a contest with the United States,

1048
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: and since survival is its number one goal, it's it's

1049
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: it's overriding goal, and it's it's always going to be

1050
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: careful in terms of pushing us into some type of

1051
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: military conflict. Um. But I don't think also that walking

1052
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: away from the table from this meeting without having solved

1053
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: anything means that you're back to square one. This is

1054
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: obviously a breakthrough of some kind, and we've seen it before.

1055
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: The North Koreans have proposed the nuclearization talks before the

1056
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: logic of diplomacy is that we have to follow up,

1057
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: but you have to be extraordinarily successful. But you're right, Buck.

1058
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: What this does give and what can never be taken away,

1059
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: is that this gives Kim Jong n a massive propaganda coup.

1060
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: When you sit down at the table as a equal

1061
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: to the North Korean president, which is you know what

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Speaker 1: the diploma, diplomatic protocol will be, uh that legitimizes him

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Speaker 1: in a way no US president has been willing to do.

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Speaker 1: If the Trump administration is making a strategic change because

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Speaker 1: they think this will actually get more cooperation towards the

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Speaker 1: end goal of the nuclearization, that that's fine, but they've

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Speaker 1: done it with such rapidity and so precipitously that you

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Speaker 1: haven't prepared allies, you haven't prepared the U. S. Public.

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Speaker 1: We're not sure if all the different parts of the U. S.

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Speaker 1: Government have weighed in with with what they think this means.

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Speaker 1: So there are a lot of risks here, but obviously

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Speaker 1: it's a gamble that the President feels he's well placed

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Speaker 1: to take. Before we head off here into into the weekends,

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Speaker 1: Michael I wanted to ask for your rosiest but realistic

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Speaker 1: UH scenario here and meaning, if things go as well

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Speaker 1: as they could realistically be expected to with this meeting,

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Speaker 1: based on North Korea's red lines, and what it would

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Speaker 1: what it would need for there to be some kind

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Speaker 1: of a bargain here, What would that What would that

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Speaker 1: look like? What would a huge Trump I'd like to

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Speaker 1: establish now kind of where the goalposts are for what

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Speaker 1: is Wow? Trump just managed to pull off the greatest

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Speaker 1: diplomatic national security victory since the end of the Cold War. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he has to avoid the raky Vic temptation

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Speaker 1: to try to solve this in one fell swoop, as

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Speaker 1: Reagan did with Gorbachev. In Rekyvic, I think the most

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Speaker 1: realistic and best case scenario is that they come away

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Speaker 1: with an agreement to now can begin very serious high

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Speaker 1: level talks about the nuclearization where the US has given

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Speaker 1: up nothing, has not agreed to remove any of the sanctions,

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Speaker 1: and quite frankly, all you can do is play that out.

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Speaker 1: I think we know that the North Koreans undercut almost

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Speaker 1: any deal they make. We know that they play for

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Speaker 1: time again. I think the logic of diplomacy is that

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Speaker 1: you have to see where it goes. But given that

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Speaker 1: it's at this level, any talks from now on we'll

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Speaker 1: have Kim Jong UN's stamp on them, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: So if they come away saying we are now going

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Speaker 1: to begin a serious round of negotiations and the White

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Speaker 1: House reserves the ability to uh to put on more

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Speaker 1: sanctions or do other things, you know, I think it's

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Speaker 1: better than them walking away saying, well, we failed and

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Speaker 1: now let's prepare for war, or that they rush into

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Speaker 1: a deal where no one is really sure of what

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Speaker 1: the implications are. Michael Oslin is the author of the

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Speaker 1: End of the Asian Century, which is available on Amazon

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Speaker 1: for you folks who want to do some deep dive

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Speaker 1: reading on this on your own time, and he's also

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Speaker 1: a fellow at the Hoover Institution. Michael, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us anytime. Buck, Thank you, Tim. We

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Speaker 1: are going to roll into a quick break here. We

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Speaker 1: are going to come back and get into a bit

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Speaker 1: of a freestyle because it's the third of the show soon,

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Speaker 1: So stay right there and we'll be back. It's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of political tumult out in California. This is

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Speaker 1: of the fun kind, though, because you got Democrat on

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Speaker 1: Democrat issues. Latest is that our our may man, our

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Speaker 1: home slice. Bernie Sanders, what do you mean? What are

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Speaker 1: you talking about? The Republican show? Don't talk about me?

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Speaker 1: What about it? He refuses. He refuses to endorse UH

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Speaker 1: Senator Diane Feinstein in advance of her primary in California.

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Speaker 1: I see, I think this is a this is a

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Speaker 1: harbinger of things to come. My friends, Here's why, Horbinger.

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Speaker 1: Why are you using those words? What is that supposed

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Speaker 1: to mean? Horbinger? So Bernie is the left wing darling

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Speaker 1: of the elected poor, the Democrat party. Right. Bernie is

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Speaker 1: where the Democrats were emotionally in the last presidential election.

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Speaker 1: I had so much fun at CNN whenever they would

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Speaker 1: occasionally allow me to be part of a post Democrat

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Speaker 1: debate panel, just looking at all the all the hillary Bots,

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Speaker 1: all little Hillary supporters, and say, we all know that

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Speaker 1: Bernie is the authentic one, right, authentic baby, real, the

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Speaker 1: real deal. We all know that Bernie's what the Democrats

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Speaker 1: would like to vote for, but instead they're going to

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Speaker 1: vote for How wow, Hillary, she's the best, She's amazing,

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Speaker 1: and they went with Hillary. And now we all know

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Speaker 1: what happened, and they wish they could have voted for Bernie.

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Speaker 1: But the Democrat left is going to reassert itself. And

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Speaker 1: let me tell you, there is nothing better that I

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Speaker 1: can think of for the Republicans that the Democrats could

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Speaker 1: due to themselves. Then actually let the American people what

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Speaker 1: Democrats really want and think and believe you see, fine

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Speaker 1: Stein is the and now keep on, this isn't when

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Speaker 1: I say old school. I think fine Stein and Senators

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Speaker 1: are are pretty close in age, right, They're both They're

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Speaker 1: both up there. But fine Stein is the uh, the

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Speaker 1: more centrist model of left wing Democrat. At least she's

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Speaker 1: viewed as being too conservative because she has voted this

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Speaker 1: according to the progressives in the Democrat Party, because she

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Speaker 1: has voted with Trump. This is what they say thirty

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Speaker 1: percent of the time. So she goes against Trump seventy

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Speaker 1: percent of the time. Not that's not progressive. And keep

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Speaker 1: in mind these are things like you know, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about every vote that she has, right, so you know,

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Speaker 1: with the defense budget, you know, you look at all

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Speaker 1: these different votes that senators will will take in any

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Speaker 1: at any point in time, and sure enough, Diane Feinstein

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01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: is with Trump three out of ten times, and that

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Speaker 1: is too much for the Democrats. So there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a progressive feeding frenzy. Uh last year,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry this year, well maybe there was one last

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Speaker 1: year two. But there's the progressive feeding frenzy that's coming up.

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Speaker 1: And I think this would be absolutely fantastic for the

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the midterms because if if the American people

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Speaker 1: see that it is in fact the left wing uh,

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Speaker 1: social justice warriors that have become the ideological the ideological

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Speaker 1: vanguard of the Democrat Party, the American people are are

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Speaker 1: going to run from that. So I want more. I

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Speaker 1: want Bernie like fun Fun She's practically right wing. That's crazy,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think that's way better because what you

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Speaker 1: get with the Hillary fine Stein win the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: is meant it's really this much of the same him

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01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: left wing stuff you'd get anyway, but they pretend to

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Speaker 1: be more sort of centrist and down the middle and

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Speaker 1: technocratic and reasonable. Right fine Stein, And look, I think

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Speaker 1: on something's fine Stein is more reasonable than say Bernie Sanders.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna pretend like there's no differences,

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Speaker 1: but I'm much more concerned about a a fine Stein

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Speaker 1: surge in the mid term or people, I shouldn't say

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Speaker 1: fine Stein surge, but Democrats, especially in purple states that

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Speaker 1: are you know, They've got this guy in Pennsylvania's former marine.

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Speaker 1: He's telegenic, you know, you know these are formidable candidates folks, right,

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Speaker 1: these are people that they're Democrats and they people can say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna give this guy or this

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Speaker 1: gall of shot. They look like they know what's up.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have Bernie Sanders style candidates in a lot

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Speaker 1: of these races, or Bernie Sanders approved. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a wipeout for the Democrats relatively speaking. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be pretty close no matter what happens. But

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Speaker 1: I like to get excited about the my political prognostications

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: that everyone's gonna for get me. Remember, I'm gonna write

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Speaker 1: a film. I'm gonna record it. Okay, Bernie, you do that.

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Speaker 1: Our three coming up Stay with me team, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: our three. Our Freestyle Friday is continuing here. Gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking to you about violent video games, then share some thoughts.

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Speaker 1: All my time down here in Savannah and visiting with

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Speaker 1: some of the UH fantastic sponsors of the Buck Section show,

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Speaker 1: as well as getting to get a tour and hang

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Speaker 1: out with some of the folks here at w t

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Speaker 1: k c UH, which is the station or I Hard

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Speaker 1: affiliate down here in Savannah. So I'll get a note

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Speaker 1: some of that, and then we'll finish up as is

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Speaker 1: our custom team with roll Call. But this is something

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Speaker 1: that came across my radar and it fits into the

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Speaker 1: category of just when is it gonna stop? You know?

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Speaker 1: I am a Netflix and nap kind of guy on

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Now, Netflix and nap is Netflix and then

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Speaker 1: taking naps Apparently Netflix and chill means something else, which

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Speaker 1: I have found out. So there's that. But I'm a

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Speaker 1: Netflix and Nap kind of go on the weekends. I

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Speaker 1: love watching things on demand, and yeah, I read as

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Speaker 1: much as I can on the weekends too, because that's

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Speaker 1: when I do a lot of my additional research for

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Speaker 1: this show for podcasts, and I just also love reading.

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Speaker 1: Um I love reading, and I'm not afraid to say it,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I'm somebody who enjoys some good netflixes.

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Speaker 1: I just burned through Ozark with Ms Molley. We loved it.

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Speaker 1: I really like that thought it was very well done.

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Speaker 1: And if if somebody likes the show, um breaking Bad,

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Speaker 1: I think Ozark is a very good not as good

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Speaker 1: as Breaking babb It's a very good similar genre. But

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Speaker 1: you know, Netflix is doing great stuff. They don't get

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Speaker 1: you know, some of their shows or strikeouts, but they

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Speaker 1: they definitely get on base a lot, and they've even

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Speaker 1: hit some some home runs. And then I see this

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Speaker 1: and it just makes me frustrated, folks, As somebody who

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Speaker 1: works in the media works very very hard and tries

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Speaker 1: to put out the best content possible all the time.

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Speaker 1: It could be that we lived in a world where

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Speaker 1: content that the best content would win out. But instead,

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Speaker 1: what you have a lot of the time is that

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Speaker 1: the platforms are dominated by by political interests, meaning that

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Speaker 1: there are people who have their own versions of what

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Speaker 1: they think politics should be. They make the decisions about

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Speaker 1: what shows are on what shows aren't, and that's how

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Speaker 1: you get abominations like bill Ny the Science Guy on Netflix,

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Speaker 1: which was the worst, least funny, least informative, steamy pile

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Speaker 1: of yak crap I have ever watched on any Netflix, Amazon,

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Speaker 1: any of these new platforms ever period. It was unwatchable.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was you know, gosh, I have like

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Speaker 1: had flashbacks to try to watch this. It was terrible.

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Speaker 1: Now I find out that Netflix is thinking about having

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama appear as the this is from CNN as

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Speaker 1: the on camera moderator of a new series, or he

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01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: might stay off camera as a producer of a show

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Speaker 1: about uplifting American stories. Or maybe he'll do both. So

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Speaker 1: Obama is about to become quite a force on Netflix. Now,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things on this one. It's a great show.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna tell stories about my background, how I saved

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Speaker 1: the world a sport brother. So there's that. Uh. But Obama, look,

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Speaker 1: I I give credit where it's due. He knows much

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Speaker 1: better to control the culture. He will be much more

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Speaker 1: influential as somebody who is on Netflix. We're pushing show

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Speaker 1: is on Netflix. You know, that's the way that the

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Speaker 1: the upcoming generation starts going hard left. That's the way

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Speaker 1: that they mold minds into being progressive social justice warriors,

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Speaker 1: not by having another you know, Obama doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: appear on CNN or MSNBC. Brop rop broop blop Ryan.

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Speaker 1: He's done plenty of that already, eight years of NonStop

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Speaker 1: coverage and the Obama's amazing. This is the most brilliant

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Speaker 1: man in the universe. Oh no, it's hard for me

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Speaker 1: to talk to you people because you're not as smart

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Speaker 1: as I'm I'm really smart, and I'm amazing and perfect

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Speaker 1: and basically demigod, So you may worship my feet. Uh

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Speaker 1: So he already had that, right, So now he's maybe

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing the Netflix thing. Uh But I I

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Speaker 1: take this very seriously, folks, because the influence that he

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Speaker 1: could have in the culture is much more than the

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Speaker 1: influence that he would have as just another former president

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Speaker 1: talking head. You know, you see how this this happens. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Clintons understood that, especially given their look. The Clinton

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Speaker 1: Foundation in a sense was brilliant. I mean, it polluted

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Speaker 1: charitable giving and it's disgusting to use charity as a

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Speaker 1: vehicle for self advancement and all kinds of kickbacks in favors.

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Speaker 1: Don't even get me started on uranium one, but no

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Speaker 1: on all the other things as well, the open stuff

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Speaker 1: that was going on, not even just the stuff we

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Speaker 1: haven't yet found out the full details of. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a total disgrace. But it was brilliant from the

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Speaker 1: perspective of the Clintons. You basically get to have a

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Speaker 1: tax free marketing campaign for the Clinton brand, right and

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Speaker 1: and and you get to burnish your brand by being

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Speaker 1: involved with a charity and running a charity. So it

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Speaker 1: was brilliant stuff. It's just the Clintons are grasping and

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Speaker 1: disgusting and so they they made it too obvious what

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Speaker 1: was really going on. And that's also why the Clinton

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Speaker 1: Global Initiative shut down after Hillary didn't win. All of

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: a sudden, people don't care abou charity. They were given

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Speaker 1: so much money, but then Hillary is no longer going

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Speaker 1: to be the president and they don't care about charity.

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Speaker 1: The donations dry up, they have to shut things down.

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Speaker 1: Oh almost like the whole frigging thing was corrupt, but

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Speaker 1: the Clintons had their charity. Obama, I've been I've been

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Speaker 1: saying this for a while. Actually, he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a major force in the media, you know. He They're

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01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: they're going to make Obama a crossover of political and

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01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: cultural importance, and the left will do everything they can

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Speaker 1: to elevate him. And the left is very powerful. He

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Speaker 1: look at the HBO, left wing Netflix, left wing Amazon,

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01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: left wing we don't control any of these platforms, folks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when it comes to like heavyweight punchers in

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 1: the media realm, we really We've got Fox News Talk Radio,

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01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: thank you very much, and you know, some some websites,

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01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: but we don't have the platforms. And you know, they're

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01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: going to get the same information dominance that they had

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01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: in the past, in the pre Internet age, because they're

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01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 1: gonna control all the major portals. You're already seeing this

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01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: with the social media platforms, but they're gonna use I mean,

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01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 1: Obama is going to be the new Democrat media brand

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01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: in a sense. He's going to be political, he's going

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Speaker 1: to be cultural, He's going to be you know, all

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Speaker 1: of the uh, all of the media reverence and you know,

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01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: the the intellectual political stuff that they imputed that they

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Speaker 1: kind of pushed for the Clintons. Obama will have all

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Speaker 1: of that, but also the you know, the media reach

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01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: and savvy and relationships of you know, Ellen and Oprah

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01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know who's you know, really

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01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: big these days, but you know, he might be a producer.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that this is both something to be

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Speaker 1: aware of where area of because I think it will

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01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: have a real impact. And also now I'm just gonna

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01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 1: come to you. Now, I'm just gonna complain for a second.

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm just upset about I'm just upset about this. Okay,

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01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: Like I like watching Netflix, and when Bill Night came on,

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01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: I don't mean to harp on that one, but I'm

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01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: going to it was like, Netflix, you really gotta do

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: me like this. This is how it's got to be. Now,

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01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: Bill Ny the not funny, not even real science guy.

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01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: He's he's a mechanical engineer. Okay, he runs around in

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Speaker 1: a white coat. I don't know a lot of mechanical

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01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: engineers that wear a white coat. Um. But then, and look,

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Speaker 1: if the show was good, I would admit it. I

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01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: admit when the left is doing something well, and I

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01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: usually want to either steal it or copy it, or

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01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, find a way to do it on our side. Yeah,

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01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, enough with the think tanks. How many of

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: these right wing billionaires are gonna be running around and

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01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 1: and you know, sending big check. We we've got things.

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01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: We've got wonderful thing tanks the right wing. We've got policy.

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01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 1: We were good there. We need competitive media outlets, and

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01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 1: I don't just mean news. I mean I mean entertainment media.

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: You know, we need to I know this gonna sound crazy.

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01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: We need a Netflix of the Right. And by the way,

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01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: we can get that, they could license TV shows that

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01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: are you know, more in in the realm of what

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01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, traditional America would like to see, our traditionalist

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01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: Americans would like to see. You know, it's it's not

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01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: all about the transgender struggle and progressive social justice issues,

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01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: which is what you see on Amazon and Netflix. You know,

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01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: we could actually get some older shows that actually that show, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, traditional struggle of good versus evil, I don't know,

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01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then create some new content. I mean,

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01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: people keep talking about it, but it doesn't happen, and

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01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: there's really no excuse now. So I'm putting out the

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01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: call to all the billionaires who listened to this show.

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Speaker 1: All I don't know, maybe one or two of you

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01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: have no idea. Uh, we need a Netflix of the

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01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: Right because you're seeing this with Obama, they're going to

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01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: bring him in. They're gonna bring in you know, Chelsea Clinton.

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Speaker 1: It's just the media political apparatus, the entertainment political apparatus,

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Speaker 1: is going to shut us down and drown us out

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Speaker 1: unless we get savvy. We're gonna talk about speaking of media.

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Speaker 1: Violent video games coming up after the break. Violent video

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Speaker 1: games not something that I spend much time thinking or

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Speaker 1: talking about, but I know that it often comes up

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Speaker 1: when there's one of these terrible shootings, school shooting, or

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Speaker 1: any number of mass casualty shootings, and I usually think

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Speaker 1: to myself, you know, that's just not that's not a solution, clearly.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that the people that are opposed

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Speaker 1: to violent video games say it would solve, but they

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Speaker 1: just think that it would that that there are deeper

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Speaker 1: cultural roots to the problems of some of the violence

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Speaker 1: that we see in our society, and and I get that,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta say, you know, I grew up this

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Speaker 1: is a part of my life. I don't talk all

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Speaker 1: that much about. I grew up playing a lot of

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Speaker 1: video games. I read a lot of books too. I

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Speaker 1: played a lot of video games. I was I went

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Speaker 1: through a phase. I'm one of four. I've got two brothers,

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Speaker 1: and I have some cousins also who are are close

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Speaker 1: to my age, you know, guy cousins and man, we

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Speaker 1: all we played video games, and I remember all these

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Speaker 1: different systems. Uh, I had Sega Saturn. My mom was great,

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Speaker 1: you know, she tried to spoil the kids a little

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Speaker 1: bit sometimes when she could. And at Sega Saturn and

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Speaker 1: Turbographic sixteen Nintendo obviously, I mean Duck Hunt Duck Hunt

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Speaker 1: for Life game was amazing. Uh. So many of these

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Speaker 1: different consoles over over time, and and then eventually PlayStation.

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Speaker 1: And I've told you before about fond memories I have

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Speaker 1: of playing Sid Meier's Civilization and games like Medieval Total

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Speaker 1: War that I think actually have a really useful impact

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Speaker 1: on the way that people think about strategy. I mean

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Speaker 1: at a young age and you learn a bit of history,

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Speaker 1: especially Medieve Total War. They've based it on all these

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Speaker 1: different military units completely accurate. The uh names of the

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Speaker 1: provinces at this period, the I Medieval time, very accurate.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you play that game, you know

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Speaker 1: what you know what a ghazi is, you know what

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Speaker 1: a janissary is, you know what gendarme comes from a

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Speaker 1: French term. This is all. Yeah, these are all historical,

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01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: uh data points that are useful and it's fun to

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Speaker 1: play these games. But when I think of games, that's

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01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: kind of what I think of maybe Street Fighter two

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Speaker 1: and and I'm not somebody who's in favor of banning

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01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: video games. I'm just opposed to censorship. I tend to

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01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: the more libertarian side of arguments whenever it involves content.

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01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: But I gotta say this is just I'm not advocating

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Speaker 1: for a policy here. I'm just saying. And if you're

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Speaker 1: going on this weekend, you're gonna be playing a lot

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: of games. I get it. But this montage that they

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Speaker 1: played at the White House for Trump, when they're having

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Speaker 1: the discussion about video games and violent video games, it's

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Speaker 1: the most violent stuff I've ever seen. I mean it

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01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: was crazy. I mean you get people up close and

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Speaker 1: personal with hatchets literally lopping off heads and anatomically correct

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01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: and there's blood spurting everywhere, and it's it's a mess.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say, I do I have my limits? I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are there are shows that are too violent for me.

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Speaker 1: There are movies that are too violent for me. And

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Speaker 1: I grew up watching a lot of action films and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But there's different you know, there's different levels, right, There's

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Speaker 1: something very different about let's say, as you know, I

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Speaker 1: love action movies, but Commando, you know, layoff, lit off

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Speaker 1: some steam. Bennett, um My Schwarzenegger was not good there,

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01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: but we'll just let that go. Nudolf's no, I can't

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Speaker 1: do it. I can't do it at all. It's because

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Speaker 1: people think of schwartzening gob you know, because of Conan

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Speaker 1: O'Brien och the gobintor. That's not really how he sounds

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01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: in movies though, so um sometimes he does get to

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Speaker 1: the choppa, but that's different with Schwartzenegger running around wearing

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01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: just a tactical vest nothing nothing underneath it and short

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01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: sleeves obviously because that's how he rolls, and firing an

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Speaker 1: M sixty one handed from the hip on a full

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01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: run and moan dudes down from two yards away and

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01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: none of them can hit him. By the way, if

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen Commando, this is actually what happens in it.

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Speaker 1: That's very different than say the movie Saw or Hostile

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Speaker 1: or some of these other I think they call them

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01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: torture porn. Uh, these other incredibly violent and really depraved

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01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: movies out there. I'll tell you, I was actually on

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Speaker 1: a first date once, and a young woman that I

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Speaker 1: was on the date with. There's many many. This is

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01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: over a decade ago, said that, you know, her favorite

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Speaker 1: movies were all of the Saw movies and Hostile, and

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Speaker 1: I just remember thinking, I don't know if this is

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Speaker 1: gonna work out, because I thought that was a little intense,

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01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, I thought that was a bit much. Uh uh.

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01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 1: But you know, there there are limits for me. And

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01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't think that that means that necessarily it translates

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01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: into policy. I'm just telling you that I was a

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01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,719
Speaker 1: bit I was a bit surprised and a little taken

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01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 1: aback by just how violent some of these video games

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01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: really are, and it was a surprise to me. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm I'm out of touch with some of

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: these things because I gave up playing video games really

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Speaker 1: after college. Not that I got any problem with I mean,

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01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, they're still fun. I still I still think

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01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm probably pretty good at them, played a little bit

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01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: here and there. But things have changed with them, and

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01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 1: they're so hyper realistic now in the graphics and the

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Speaker 1: first person aspect of these games also, it's so it's

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01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: already so close to virtual reality. I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why virtual reality hasn't taken off more,

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Speaker 1: because you play these first person games and you're already

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Speaker 1: it's like your storm and the Beaches of Normandy there

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Speaker 1: right in your head. I mean, you're you know, all

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Speaker 1: these different call of duty games and I didn't play

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Speaker 1: much of those. Um trying to think of my my

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Speaker 1: my real first person shooters, uh, you know, Awakening, that's

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Speaker 1: a good way to put it. Was Golden I on

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Speaker 1: the Nintendo sixty four. I played that with my friends

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Speaker 1: when we were in maybe early high school so much,

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Speaker 1: and that was a great game at the time, and

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Speaker 1: that was my first time. I was like, Wow, first

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Speaker 1: person shooter is really But that's if you look at

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01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: that now, it looks like it's from another it looks

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01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: like it's from the Stone Age or something. It's not

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: not nearly as advanced of stuff I have now. So

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01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: I just looked through this montage and it's up on

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01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: different sites that they showed the president, just with the

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01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 1: most graphics stuff from video games you could find. And

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01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I was a little wow, that's actually

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01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: really violent. I was a little uh you know. Taking

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01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 1: it back is actually a nautical term for when the

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01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 1: wind shifts and it hits the sale at an angle

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01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden kind of makes the boat

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01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: uh slow or even feel like it comes to a

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01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: stop taking it back, but I thought it was. Yeah,

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01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: it's a little much, a little more than I had expected.

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01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: I will say that, and I don't think that necessarily

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01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: factors into any policy recommendations, although it does make me

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01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: think more about what is going on in the culture.

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01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: You know, some things I think we can we can

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01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: at least advocate for a certain level of decorum and taste.

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01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: And you know that that's and so I guess that's

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01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm not saying band super violent movies

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01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: video games. I'm just saying I wouldn't let my kids

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01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: play the most violent video games. I would hold off

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01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: on that until a little later on. I don't have

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01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: kids yet, so this is easy for me to say.

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01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm thinking about what that would be like,

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01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: and that's the volent video games. I would pretty much

1503
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: put a put a hold on that. You know, there

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01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: were movies I was allowed to see action movies that

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01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 1: were rated are but you know, I didn't watch a

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01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: lot of at least not till I got into high school,

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01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 1: and I wasn't allowed to watch things. You know that

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01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: came out in the theaters and everybody, if you remember

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01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: basic instinct, very violent very uh graphic movie, not just

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01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: with violence, and I wasn't allowed to see that, you know,

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01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: with there are limitations, There are limitations that uh certainly

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01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: were in place when I was a young you know,

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01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: a teenager. So I've just changed my thinking a little bit.

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01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: On the video games. We've come a long way from

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01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: sid Meier's Civilization, where the worst thing you'd see is

1516
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Montezuma getting really upset at Genghis Khan. All Right, we'll

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01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: hit a quick break, we come back. I've got some

1518
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: thoughts from Savannah and then some roll call. Stay with me.

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01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: I have had a great time down here in Savannah, Georgia.

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01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 1: I love this place. I'm gonna find every excuse I

1521
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: can to come and visit. And also want to thank

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01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: our I Heart affiliate here uh W t k C.

1523
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: They have been so generous and and warm and and

1524
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: help me out here making sure that I've got a

1525
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: great studio for my my days visiting in Savannah, and

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01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: so thank you to all all the folks here. And

1527
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: also just had a great time visiting with our friends

1528
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: at nine Line Apparel and Black Rifle Coffee. Got to

1529
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,799
Speaker 1: hang out with both of them. And actually I'm hoping

1530
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: that tomorrow I'll be able to get out to the

1531
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: nine Line facility again. UH. Today I took a tour

1532
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: with the CEO and some of his uh, some of

1533
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: his corporate officers who go check it out. UH. Tyler

1534
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: Merritt and his crew also got to see Evan Hafer

1535
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 1: of Black Rifle and Matt Best because they've opened up

1536
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: a franchise inside of the Nine Line Apparel store. It's

1537
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: an incredible facility. They've got out here just outside of George,

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01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: outside of Georgia, outside of Savannah, about fifteen twenty minutes

1539
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: from downtown maybe twenty minutes and UH, it's a really

1540
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: cool facility. So I very much enjoyed getting to see

1541
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: all them today. And some members of Team Buck showed up.

1542
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you so much to

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01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: all of them for deciding to h to make the trek.

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01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: Some of you were in the neighborhood. Some of you

1545
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: drove quite a bit. I saw some uh, I saw

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01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: some freedom hut T shirts in effect. And to those

1547
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: of you that made made the trip, I really do

1548
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And you made me look good in front

1549
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: of Miss Molly, who was with me today. She came

1550
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,719
Speaker 1: out too, and saw everybody out at the nine Line store.

1551
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: So all in all, very very successful day. Really enjoyed myself.

1552
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 1: And tomorrow morning, Saturday morning, I'm planning on going out

1553
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: again to the nine Line facility. It's they've got a factory,

1554
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: they got a store. It's incredible, folks. If you're within

1555
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: driving distance, they're gonna be basically throwing a big party

1556
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: tomorrow and I'm planning to be out there tomorrow Saturday morning.

1557
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 1: I'll get there around probably nine thirty am, so that's

1558
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: the plan. So if you wanted to just go check

1559
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: out some great gear, Matt Best will be there. There's

1560
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a line of like four thousand people

1561
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 1: just to see Matt, and uh, that's just gonna be

1562
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 1: really fun, so you can come check it out with

1563
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: all the rest of us. They had today a bouncy

1564
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 1: castle for the kids, so it's a family event. They

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01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: got a bouncy castle for the kids. They had Clydesdale Horses,

1566
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: drawing horse drawn carriage, taking people on carriage tours, all

1567
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:07,560
Speaker 1: kinds of food trucks with delicious food, barbecue, burgers, you know,

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01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 1: you name it, and they really do it right. Man,

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01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: these guys, the Black Rifle and nine Line guys know

1570
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,719
Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing. It was a really fun event

1571
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 1: today and I got to drink some delicious ice coffee.

1572
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: Miss Molly was so happy. She goes, I don't think

1573
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna have almond milk, because you know, she doesn't

1574
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: really drink the cow milk and which I just prefer

1575
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 1: to as milk because that's true. And hopefully miss Molly

1576
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: is not listening to this because she might yell at me.

1577
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 1: But they have almond milk at the nine I mean

1578
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,839
Speaker 1: well at nine Line Slash Black Rifle because it's delicious

1579
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 1: coffee and they want to make sure that all their

1580
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: customers are happy. So really good time today, and I

1581
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: think those folks as well. So it's it's We've got

1582
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 1: a whole whole squad of of thanks that I'm giving

1583
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 1: out W T K s C. I heart um affiliate

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01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: here in Savannah, Georgia. Also nine Line and Black Rifle.

1585
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: And then just a quick before we get into some

1586
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 1: roll call, a little a little fun story where you

1587
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 1: I took a drive. I'm pulling a Tom Friedman here,

1588
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: but this this is actually a good one. I took

1589
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: a drive over here and I took a an uber

1590
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: as is my as is my habit. And the gentleman

1591
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: who drove me over here was really insightful and and

1592
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: nice and friendly dude. And you were talking a little bit,

1593
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: and I think he was surprised because I have some

1594
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: I have some knowledge of some places of the world

1595
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: that are surprising to folks. So when he said what

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01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 1: when he started talking, and I said, you're from West Africa.

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01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 1: You're You're from Nigeria, aren't you. And he says, he, oh, yeah,

1598
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 1: how do you know? I said, well, what part of

1599
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: the country you from? And he and he told me,

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01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: he said, I'm from the southeast. I said, oh, you

1601
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: must be Ebo and he goes, you know my tribe

1602
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 1: to I said, sir, I'm a man who knows many things.

1603
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: And we had a great conversation about politics and I

1604
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: love it. This guy told me that I'm not gonna

1605
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: use his name just because you know, he's a civilian.

1606
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not I wanna bring him in this, but

1607
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: he might be listening because he downloads. He's now a

1608
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: subscriber to the Bucks Exton show. We by the end

1609
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 1: of our ride, I turned him into a subscriber, so

1610
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, here we have a legal immigrant to the

1611
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: country who is highly educated, highly motivated, really great conversationalist,

1612
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,520
Speaker 1: fun guy to talk to. And he is a Republican,

1613
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 1: my friends, that's right. He's like, what is it with

1614
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: people that are hating on Donald Trump? He's like, you know,

1615
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: people tell me these things about how he's racist. He's like,

1616
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: he's not racist. Why do people say this? And I

1617
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, man, it's crazy, isn't He go? Yeah,

1618
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: because what's with Hillary? Hillary is no good. I'm like,

1619
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: I know. He's like, it's I'm not saying that she's

1620
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: inhuman or anything. She's just not very not particularly easy

1621
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: to relate to as a human. I said, yeah, that's

1622
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: very student analysis, my friends. So we had a really

1623
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 1: good chat. But I was just great to talk to

1624
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: somebody down here in Savannah who um is representative. I

1625
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: think of this new type of Trump voter or new

1626
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: type of Republican people that are like, you know, what,

1627
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 1: the economy is good, things are going well. You know,

1628
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: you can't trust the mainstream media, you can't trust some

1629
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: of these big outlets. And I said, sir, I couldn't

1630
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: agree with you more. Man. We had a really a

1631
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 1: really fun chat. So it's as you can get a sense,

1632
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: I think from my tone, it's just been a really

1633
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: good visit, uh down here in Savannah. I'm a I'm

1634
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 1: a big fan of this place. I'm a big fan

1635
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: of New Orleans. I mean, I'm gonna be hitting up

1636
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: Austin pretty soon, definitely hitting up already on the schedule

1637
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: those of you who are listening on Whoa, Whoa. I

1638
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 1: will be out in Fort Wayne, Indiana in about three

1639
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: weeks for Talk Tank, which is an event that that

1640
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: that excellent affiliate Wow Oh, will be putting on. So

1641
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: if you can come to that and I'll be hanging

1642
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: out all day, So if you want to chat, no

1643
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: miss Molly for that one though, Miss It was kind

1644
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 1: of a special treat for the folks today that came

1645
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 1: out from the team, including some original Saturday Squad that

1646
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 1: Miss Molly was in effect. That usually doesn't happen, but

1647
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: she sure enough was there for this one. So a

1648
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:58,640
Speaker 1: great time down here. As soon as I'm done with

1649
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 1: the show, I'm gonna be hanging out with some of

1650
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: our friends from the veteran community who are involved in

1651
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: Black Black Rifle Coffee and Nine Lines. So We're gonna

1652
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 1: have quite a night. I'm glad I do not have

1653
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: a radio show tomorrow morning, because that would be pretty tough.

1654
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,600
Speaker 1: And that's uh, that's that's my story, and for now

1655
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm just sticking to it. It should be fun. I'm

1656
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 1: gonna go into a quick break. When I come back,

1657
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: we will do the actual roll call that I promise

1658
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: you we would do, so we'll hear from all of you.

1659
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: So stay with me back in just a few quick minutes. Alright,

1660
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: live from Savannah, Georgia, w t k C. This is Friday,

1661
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 1: Well Freestyle Friday roll Call. Hey, teen Buck, it's time

1662
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: for roll call. I feel like that music gets us

1663
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 1: all fired up and ready for the weekend, at least

1664
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,560
Speaker 1: for those of you that that dig it. Some of

1665
01:36:58,600 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: your probably like, Buck, why don't you stick to the

1666
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 1: classic rock? My friend? You should probably not play too

1667
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 1: much dub STEFP. People might be like, that's not really

1668
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 1: my thing. Um So first up here, Oh wow, that's great.

1669
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: We got Eric who sent me a photo of the

1670
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: two of us hanging out at the nine Line store

1671
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 1: here in Georgia because he just posted this up on

1672
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 1: Facebook said thanks for taking the time, brother. Sorry, I

1673
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 1: couldn't stay and talk, had to pick up my daughter

1674
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: from school. While Eric, I totally understand my friend. Thank

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01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: you very much for coming out. Um, and let's get

1676
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: to uh the next one here, because other than that's

1677
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 1: just a photo. Was a great photo, Eric, Great to

1678
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: meet you. Uh, Seth Rights, hey buck podcast listener here.

1679
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Just worry to let you know that I enjoy your

1680
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 1: occasional rants about things that bother you. They're educational and hilarious. Well, Seth,

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01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for your note. And since

1682
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: you've opened the door, I'm going to walk through it.

1683
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 1: So I happened to check into a hotel here in

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Speaker 1: downtown Savannah. The hotel will remain unnamed, but they told

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01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: me when I'm checking in, oh, there's some construction going

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01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: on inside the hotel. They're doing some renovations. And I said, okay,

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01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 1: well where is it and they said, well, it's kind

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01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: of in a few places, and and I said, well,

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01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you right now, I am a

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01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: grumpy old man when it comes to unnecessary noise. And

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01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a situation where I'm gonna need

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01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: you to put me as far as possible from the noise.

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01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: And the young woman at the front desk, I mean,

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01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 1: I think actually she's my age, but I'm just gonna say.

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01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 1: The young woman at the front desk said yeah, yeah, sure, sure, whatever,

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01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: and kind of hustled me through the check in processes,

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01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: and well, I think we're gonna have And I said,

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01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we should take a little bit of

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01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: a peek here and see what what rooms are available.

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01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 1: She says, no, no, I think you'll be fine. I said, well,

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01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 1: why do you why do you take that opinion? Well,

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01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: because we're totally sold out, so this is your only

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01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 1: room option. M So I go up in. Sure enough,

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01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 1: I get to the room and it sounds like someone

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01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: is taking a jackhammer to the wall, and I said,

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01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, this is not really gonna work for me.

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01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: It's not really what I signed up for. So I

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01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 1: go downstairs and I have to go through this whole

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01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: thing of Look, I'm I am unfailingly polite for the

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01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 1: first few exchanges when I'm annoyed about something, but I

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01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 1: know that there's a place that they can put me

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01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: that's not there's no way that this place has no

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01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: rooms that I just I refuse to believe that it

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01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: is a hundred percent occupied, and sure enough I got

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01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 1: to get somebody else to come out, and they had

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01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 1: to do the whole you know, clack clack, clack, clack clack,

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01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: you know, pressing all the different buttons on the computer.

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01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: And yes, indeed, oh there's a room that's far far

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01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 1: away from all of the noise that they could have

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01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 1: given me. So my thing that annoys me is whenever

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01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: you are trying to change either your hotel room, your

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01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 1: plane ticket, whatever it may be, and the initial reaction

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01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 1: is to tell you that there's nothing they can do,

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01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 1: and then you find out because I know that that

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01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: is true. Sometimes that is true something on planes, it's

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01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,640
Speaker 1: often the case, right, I feel bad or the well,

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01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: actually that's not true. I rarely feel bad for the

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01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 1: people that are dealing with you on an airline, because

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01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 1: the airlines are they needed, they need a swift kick

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01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 1: in the bottle a lot of the time. I'm just

1731
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: gonna say it, but I do feel badly for the

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01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: man or a woman that stands there and has all

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01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: the all the rage directed at them when they are

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01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 1: flight cancelations and everything else, and people think that they

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01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: can move them and they can't. But when they can

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01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: when you tell me there's no other seed option, or

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01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 1: when you tell me there's no other room option, or

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01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 1: there's no other table at a restaurant, and then I

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01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 1: have to find out that that wasn't true, which I

1740
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 1: basically always end up finding out. Can't we just skip

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01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 1: that step? Can I please talk to your supervisor? Can

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01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 1: I please talk to your manager? I don't want to

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01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,560
Speaker 1: do that. I'm a very reasonable guy, you know, a

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01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 1: little curmudgeon ly, but very reasonable. So there you go, Seth.

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01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: There's one thing that that bothers me a little bit.

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01:40:56,280 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: Um that would be oh, oh, now you I mean,

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01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: I know I'm completely interrupting our roll call here for

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01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm interrupting our previously scheduled programming. Another thing, folks, I

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01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 1: don't know how else to say this, but the things

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01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: that go in your car, that you hang from the

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01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: dashboard that you think smell good, you become accustomed to

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01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: it because you're in the car for a long time

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01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: and you think maybe it smells nice. But for anyone

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01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: who's not spending that time in the vehicle as much

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01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: as you are, it is an overpowering smell. And I

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01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: don't actually necessarily want to get into a vehicle and

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01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 1: feel like I am being face dunked into a tank

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01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 1: of pine needles and lemon. You know, I don't need that.

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01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: It's not good. So the smell that you want in

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01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 1: a vehicle, it's just clean vehicle smell, which doesn't really

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01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: smell like anything, and that's what you want. I am

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01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 1: very opposed to. And I actually know people that will

1763
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,799
Speaker 1: tell you those chemicals they used to create those smelly

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01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,560
Speaker 1: tree things that they put in cars are very a

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01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: are are noxious, They're not good for you. I'm not

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01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 1: sure if I take that route. I just think they

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01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: smell bad. And I go in some parts of the

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01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: country and they're very common. I just go, mmm, I

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01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:14,600
Speaker 1: don't understand this. It's a little overpowering, particularly the the

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01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: the fruit smells. So that's another thing that annoys me.

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01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: And I don't really need to feel like someone's taken

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01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: cherries and shoved them up my nose and his fear.

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01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: Especially you're in kind of a long drive. That's not fun,

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01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: all right, that's an I'm gonna setsy. You open the

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01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: door for me to complain, and I'm like, here I go.

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01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: Next up Erica on roll called buck. I think you

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01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:42,839
Speaker 1: belong in the South. Your love of y'all boat choose kindness,

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01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 1: keeping a casual is very much in keeping with the

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01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 1: low country style oss in Charleston. Enjoy Savannah. Well, thank

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01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 1: you so much, Erica. I love Charleston too, So I'm

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01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: gonna find we have an affiliate in Charleston, so I'm

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01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to come down there for a market visit

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01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 1: and go visit. Are are great affiliate in Charleston. And

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01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 1: but it's funny people in New York actually often say

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01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: that I seem I have a somewhat Southern I don't

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01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 1: know I was. I don't know what the word would be,

1787
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 1: vibe maybe even though obviously I don't sound Southern at all.

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01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 1: But the name is Buck and so that's you start

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01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: with that. I do like boat shoes, I have long,

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01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: kind of poofy, floppy hair. And I used to wear

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01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: Sear sucker pants just all the time because I thought

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01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: they were comfortable. I didn't realize that was Sear sucker

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01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 1: pants and flip flops actually, which I have since found

1794
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 1: out is like southern fraternity boy standard issue. But my

1795
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 1: family is partially from the South, so maybe that's where

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01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 1: I I get some of my dad's side of the

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01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 1: family has a whole lot of Kentucky and Virginia in

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01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: the background. So there you go. Um next up here, Duke,

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01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 1: he writes, Buck, you're right. Even when you think you're wrong,

1800
01:43:55,920 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: you're right. Trust Trump. I voted for McMullen. Oh, Duke, buddy, Hey, look,

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01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: we all make mistakes, my friend. I would not have

1802
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 1: made the McMullen move myself. I I had Evan on radio.

1803
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: I was very fair to him as a as a

1804
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 1: radio host. I think I asked him questions. He's clearly, uh,

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01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,560
Speaker 1: an intelligent fellow, and I think he's well intentioned. I

1806
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 1: think with the anti Trump stuff, he's gone way too

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01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 1: far and to the point where I can't even have

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01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 1: a based on his positions. I can't even have a

1809
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 1: constructive conversation with them. And he gets a little came

1810
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 1: esque with the you know, the country was founded on

1811
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: the principles of honesty and integrity and Trump is destroying

1812
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: all of it. I'm like, you know, let's let's try

1813
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 1: to look at let's try to look at big picture here.

1814
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: So that's uh, that's where I am on all that.

1815
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 1: Um stand next up here, and uh, he writes, Hey, Buck,

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01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 1: I've really been enjoying your show in Austin, Texas well.

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01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 1: Stand speaking of wonderful affiliates and visit it's uh. K

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01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 1: l b J in Austin is one of the radio

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01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: stations that has been kind enough to add the freedom

1820
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: HUD to add the Buck Section show to its lineup,

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01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 1: and we are honored, and I really hope that the

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01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 1: folks in Austin are enjoying the show. And I I

1823
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 1: will admit I have yet to go to Austin my

1824
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: whole life. I've spent so much time in Dallas because

1825
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 1: the blaze, so a lot of I've logged, you know,

1826
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: lots of man hours in Texas, but just not in Austin,

1827
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 1: which is a place I really want to go to.

1828
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go check it out. Actually, I'm gonna

1829
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: go check out k l b J in Austin as

1830
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:39,600
Speaker 1: soon as I can. Will do an event down there, Barbecue,

1831
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: Barbecue and Buck. There. You know what, that's the name

1832
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 1: of our event right there, Barbecue and Buck. We just

1833
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: stumbled on it. We're geniuses, folks. See what we do,

1834
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 1: see the magic that we make happen. So there we go.

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01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Dan. Please spread the word to

1836
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: your friends in Austin too to tune in on on

1837
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 1: k l b J. And that's gonna be it, unfortunately

1838
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: for the show. For this Freestyle Friday, I think we've

1839
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 1: we've covered a lot of territory today. I hope you've

1840
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 1: all had as much fun as I have. I am

1841
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:10,839
Speaker 1: gonna be go meeting up with some folks and friends

1842
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 1: on the waterfront here to go chill with some of

1843
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:19,720
Speaker 1: our Nonline and Black Rifle and Miss Molly and the

1844
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 1: whole squad. So I'll try to put out some photos tonight.

1845
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 1: If you see me on the waterfront team down here

1846
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: in Savannah, come by and say hi. Maybe we can

1847
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 1: drink some mescal together. Until next time, from down in

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01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 1: the South Shields High