Speaker 1: All from Maddie.
Speaker 2: Hello, can you hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Hey, what's your name, Maddie, Maddie, what's up, Maddie? What's up?
Speaker 3: What's going on with you? You know?
Speaker 1: Nothing much? I uh, I'm just eating some pizza right now.
Speaker 3: That sounds psychedelic. That sounds psychedelic eating pizza. You know.
Speaker 3: I'm sad.
Speaker 1: I just I just can't. This is just crazy, but continue. Sorry.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, it's really about the simple
Speaker 3: things in life. Is eating pizza is so great? I
Speaker 3: talk a lot on here about like my own like
Speaker 3: food bullshit, and I've been thinking about this. Tell me,
Speaker 3: tell me what you think, Maddie is I can't decide
Speaker 3: if I'm happier when I'm not eating like shit or
Speaker 3: when I'm eating like shit, because something like there's just
Speaker 3: an acute happiness that I feel when I eat a
Speaker 3: giant cheese steak and fries and watch YouTube, and it's
Speaker 3: I don't there is like one could say a greater
Speaker 3: amount of contentment in living a healthy lifestyle, but I
Speaker 3: don't know. There's it's probably a balance. There's probably a
Speaker 3: way to balance it, because once you eat like shit
Speaker 3: for too long, the effects diminished but god, I did
Speaker 3: nothing fucking matches it. I like, like sex or drugs
Speaker 3: or what like. I've had no dopamine high quite like
Speaker 3: eating an entire pint of peanut butter s'mores, Ben and Jerry's.
Speaker 3: I really and and to deprive myself of that feels
Speaker 3: like it makes life less worth living. But also to
Speaker 3: indulge too heavily to the point where it's not even
Speaker 3: enjoyable anymore. It's also so I don't know. There's all
Speaker 3: I find a great joy and exercise, Like I like
Speaker 3: lifting weights, I love walking, I love exercising, but I
Speaker 3: don't like eating a salad gives me no joy. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 4: What do you?
Speaker 3: What do you think, Maddie?
Speaker 1: Okay, I've like been having this similar issue because I'm
Speaker 1: like a good eater, you know, and I don't know
Speaker 1: I've been I've been trying to like be more healthy,
Speaker 1: but like I will literally like do the mill prep thing.
Speaker 1: It takes fucking forever, and then I could sit there
Speaker 1: and like eat it all I feel like, and it's
Speaker 1: because it's healthy, and then I'm like not even full,
Speaker 1: I feel like, but also part of it is definitely
Speaker 1: just sugar, and it's like another I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: another money spending thing in this capitalistic world. You know,
Speaker 1: not to sound like that, but sugar is addicting as fuck,
Speaker 1: and fast food just the ease that it provides, I guess,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I've been struggling. I'm like sitting
Speaker 1: at I'm sitting here looking at this pizza and I've
Speaker 1: eaten one piece and I could easily eat the whole
Speaker 1: thing probably, but I'm not gonna do it because it's summertime.
Speaker 1: I need I need that summer body, so I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna look at it.
Speaker 3: What are your plans for the summertime? Do you have
Speaker 3: anything exciting happening?
Speaker 1: You know? I, well, I'm broke, so I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: the best I can. But I'm actually I'm going to
Speaker 1: LA next week, so I think that'll be fine. I
Speaker 1: got a friend to pay for my plane ticket, which
Speaker 1: was pretty baller, so yeah, I'm just gonna hang out
Speaker 1: there for a few days. I'm moving this summer, so
Speaker 1: that should be fun too. But yeah, kind of on
Speaker 1: a budget, so not much besides just working and saving money.
Speaker 3: Honestly, Uh, your friend did your friend pay for your
Speaker 3: plane ticket out of the kindness of their heart or
Speaker 3: was there were there strings attached?
Speaker 1: Well, there's no strings attached. Her mom is a flight
Speaker 1: or she used to be a flight attendant, so they
Speaker 1: get some weird like ticket perks now, which I'm super
Speaker 1: jealous of. But I guess I'm in on it now.
Speaker 3: So hmm, well, Mattie, let me ask you this, is
Speaker 3: there anything in particular that you called in to want
Speaker 3: to talk about?
Speaker 1: You know, not really, I didn't really think you'd answer,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Last stream I was calling
Speaker 1: as well because I was on a little road trip
Speaker 1: driving back home, and you always talk about how do
Speaker 1: like you romanticize things in your life, and I was
Speaker 1: like definitely having that moment home, like listening to sad music,
Speaker 1: and then I saw you like get on the stream
Speaker 1: or whatever, so I was like, damn, like I need
Speaker 1: to talk to him about this. But you know, now
Speaker 1: I'm already I'm already back in my current home, so
Speaker 1: that romantic feeling is gone. But I know.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting thing, romanticizing your life. I think about it.
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about it recently because there's parts of
Speaker 3: my life that I romanticize, like when I'm traveling or
Speaker 3: doing grand things, or talking with my parents or or
Speaker 3: with friends, or there's parts of my life that I
Speaker 3: certainly romanticize, and some of them are like inherently romantic,
Speaker 3: like traveling and whatnot. But I think the idea of
Speaker 3: living a holy romantic life or every second of it
Speaker 3: is romantic, that there's something exhausting to that, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like I like like almost like oh
Speaker 3: it never, you gotta you gotta give yourself some time
Speaker 3: to breathe, you gotta get cause that's that's why eating
Speaker 3: the cheese steak in front of my TV watch like
Speaker 3: eating the cheese steak and fries in front of my TV,
Speaker 3: I want there is nothing romantic about that at all,
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't dare attempt to make it romantic because
Speaker 3: when everything's romantic, it's so grand and lofty and sometimes
Speaker 3: just sometimes you just want to fucking be a normal ass,
Speaker 3: like just live in normal fucking whatever bullshit life, which.
Speaker 1: Is eating And how are you supposed to do that? Though?
Speaker 1: How how do you be normal? Do you know?
Speaker 3: You just eat a sandwich and watch TV. It's the
Speaker 3: most it's the least romantic thing you could do but
Speaker 3: be But I try to be in the moment of it,
Speaker 3: and I go, I am so fuck I actually, I
Speaker 3: actually I actively de romanticize it. I ate it last night.
Speaker 3: I ate a cheese steak and fries, and I thought
Speaker 3: to myself, there is nowhere else on the planet and
Speaker 3: nothing else I would rather be doing at this exact moment.
Speaker 3: I am honored. You know what, I know, what I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about right now is I'm actually I'm talking a
Speaker 3: lot of bullshit. I actually completely romanticized eating a sandwich.
Speaker 1: I literally, yeah, like the most normal, Like it's so
Speaker 1: normal of you.
Speaker 3: I thought myself. I thought to myself, I cause I
Speaker 3: sat down and I'm trying not to feel guilty about
Speaker 3: like whatever. But I mean some some things you are
Speaker 3: you should feel guilty about, like you know, being addicted
Speaker 3: to the fucking Instagram all day or whatever. But I
Speaker 3: was eating this cheese steak and watching TV, and I
Speaker 3: literally said to myself, I am honored to sit here
Speaker 3: and eat this and watch a YouTube video about defective
Speaker 3: Sonic plushies or whatever the fuck bullshit I'm watching. This
Speaker 3: is a great I'm I'm so happy to be doing
Speaker 3: this right now, which I think actually is romanticizing it.
Speaker 3: So I'm wrong. I do romanticize eating a sandwich.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's hard. It's hard to catch yourself doing
Speaker 1: something normal and then not being like, oh, I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: Look I'm doing it, and then once you notice you're
Speaker 1: doing it, it's not really normal anymore. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that's the first steps. Because I'm
Speaker 1: a human.
Speaker 3: I'm back. I'm always back and forth between like, oh,
Speaker 3: life is this infinitesimal, crazy event that I'm experiencing in
Speaker 3: the middle of two walls of a Blacklivian that are
Speaker 3: all the time before I was born and all the
Speaker 3: time after I die, And I should spend this little
Speaker 3: speck of time in oblivion doing like be trying to
Speaker 3: be amazing and romantic all the time, you know, But
Speaker 3: it's too much to ask. It's too much to ask
Speaker 3: to do it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I do. I have this issue where I like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess it's romanticizing. I set myself up like I'm
Speaker 1: in a movie or something, and that might sound like
Speaker 1: so selfish and like, oh my.
Speaker 3: God, hold on, hold on, hell I can I stop?
Speaker 3: Can I stop? Can I stop you real quick? Because immediately, yes,
Speaker 3: I'm curious you immediately went negative with what you're saying.
Speaker 3: You immediately said it was a problem, and you said
Speaker 3: it was selfish. Why do you feel it is either
Speaker 3: of those things inherently? Why did you?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: I feel like I think it's just like you, like
Speaker 1: us as individual humans, would like to think the things
Speaker 1: around you are happening because of you or for you,
Speaker 1: but like, obviously it's not. You know, it's just like
Speaker 1: the world and randomness, and I like will inherently be like,
Speaker 1: oh this this was a sign or something or when
Speaker 1: it really was just like something random that happened. I
Speaker 1: can't even think of an example, honestly, but like I
Speaker 1: will sit there and like, I guess it's not even
Speaker 1: like jumping to conclusions, but just kind of you imagine
Speaker 1: things in my mind. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think. I don't think that's inherently bad.
Speaker 3: You're basically what you're doing is you're take like life
Speaker 3: is chaotic and random and has no narrative or order
Speaker 3: to it, but and you are choosing to take this
Speaker 3: chaos and craft a narrative from it. So I mean
Speaker 3: that's what you're doing. You're crafting a narrative and I
Speaker 3: guess if you want to be a nihilist, you could
Speaker 3: say that the narrative you're crafting, yes, is built on
Speaker 3: a foundation of you know, chaos and inherent meaninglessness. But
Speaker 3: I think it's good to craft a narrative. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's selfish. I think it's it's it's something to
Speaker 3: cling to. You know, you're you're you're creating something to
Speaker 3: cling to within the chaos. And I this is gonna
Speaker 3: sound like woo woo, but it's kind of amazing that
Speaker 3: as human beings we have we can do that. You know,
Speaker 3: that's like a weird, like godly gift to create your
Speaker 3: own narrative from this chaos. So I don't think it's selfish.
Speaker 3: I think it's like it's you're like tapping into your
Speaker 3: higher existence when you as your own narrative. I mean,
Speaker 3: as long as you're not as long as you're not like,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, being if I don't know, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think of an example, like, as long as you
Speaker 3: don't think every single thing is about you all the
Speaker 3: time and just being like a fucking asshole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I'm an asshole at this point,
Speaker 1: but maybe one day I'll become one.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: I feel like people get a little bit more assholey
Speaker 1: as they get older. I haven't met many people that
Speaker 1: are like, oh, I was such an asshole back then
Speaker 1: and now I'm better. Like I feel like it was
Speaker 1: like it's the other way around for most people.
Speaker 3: Why do you why do you think people get become
Speaker 3: assholes as they get older?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just like it's it's more of
Speaker 1: like a've been there, done that sort of situation. It's
Speaker 1: you've been through more, and it's kind of it's easier
Speaker 1: to like jump to conclusions. I feel like it's like
Speaker 1: the same reason why like like my grandparents are I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's like they I guess they're just like
Speaker 1: less accepting of things, whereas I'm like, why would you
Speaker 1: really care about something that doesn't even affect you?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: But also I've you know, I've met some people that
Speaker 1: have like really cleaned up and like have been on
Speaker 1: a non asshole journey. I guess, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's kind of the way it goes.
Speaker 3: It's always and anytime I see I've probably said this
Speaker 3: on the podcast before. But anytime I see like a
Speaker 3: you know, when you see like an like an elderly
Speaker 3: person like yelling at a customer service person and you're
Speaker 3: every time I see that, I'm like, dude, you had
Speaker 3: eighty fucking years to figure this out? How are you
Speaker 3: still at? Like you're at like level zero of consciousness
Speaker 3: right now when you're doing that right you're and how
Speaker 3: did you get How are you at?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: How are you eighty fucking years old and you're at
Speaker 3: like level zero still? It's crazy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. I'm a cashier at the moment, and
Speaker 1: I literally sell T shirts and I deal with that
Speaker 1: every single day. Like someone will walk in and dislike
Speaker 1: something about a T shirt and then like stand there
Speaker 1: and argue with me like they're like I'm holding them hostage,
Speaker 1: and like there have been multiple times where I have
Speaker 1: to be like you can leave. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: asking you to buy anything, but uh, I don't know. People,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a power move, I feel like for
Speaker 1: some of those old people, but it's it's also like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even just old people that I
Speaker 1: run into, Like it could be anyone and you never
Speaker 1: know who it's gonna be either, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Like, I don't know. I've I've had
Speaker 1: a I've worked customer service like pretty much my whole life,
Speaker 1: I feel like, but I've never been like in a
Speaker 1: situation where I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: bitch at this worker right now, Like that's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do when I walk in.
Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that comes from.
Speaker 3: It probably comes from like they don't I assume that
Speaker 3: they don't have a lot, or like that all their
Speaker 3: friends and family are like dead, or like they don't
Speaker 3: have I don't know. I don't know how people end
Speaker 3: up like that. I really don't. I mean, also, we
Speaker 3: grew up differently because we we exist at this weird
Speaker 3: turning point in society.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, this is definitely a weird time. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to get into that, honestly. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: anyone talks about you know what I mean, And that's
Speaker 1: all I That's all I talk about at work too.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, the economy, and I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't even Yeah, I have like no money saved. That's
Speaker 1: all I have to say. Like, that's all I got
Speaker 1: to add to that.
Speaker 3: I guess I was talking less about the economy more
Speaker 3: about just like technology in general.
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Right, You're right, we don't have I mean, if you
Speaker 3: had something you wanted to say about that, you can
Speaker 3: say it.
Speaker 1: No, I mean honestly, So I guess, like a little
Speaker 1: context into my life. I just graduated college with a
Speaker 1: communications degree because I ran out of time to figure
Speaker 1: out what I actually wanted to do and money. So
Speaker 1: I was like, let me just get something out of this,
Speaker 1: you know. And my whole little background was film production,
Speaker 1: but I somehow made it through without ever figuring out
Speaker 1: how to use a camera or like all this very
Speaker 1: important stuff. So now I'm like out here in the
Speaker 1: real world being like, yeah, I like film production, and
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, yeah, I don't use a camera.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know how to edit, you know,
Speaker 1: and like this is stuff that I could easily teach
Speaker 1: myself how to do, and for some reason it's like
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, I just don't feel like it.
Speaker 1: But I also like don't know what I like. And
Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of where I am right now,
Speaker 1: and especially with technology, like like there's all these things
Speaker 1: that people are like, oh, you need to know how
Speaker 1: to do this and that. Like the amount of times
Speaker 1: someone told me to make a fucking LinkedIn account, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: why can't I just like sell apples or something.
Speaker 3: Well a few things to that is uh I I yeah,
Speaker 3: I talk about this a lot. I also went to
Speaker 3: film school, and yeah, they make you watch old movies
Speaker 3: and they don't actually teach you anything.
Speaker 1: No, I wasted my money and my teachers they didn't
Speaker 1: really not to throw them under the bus because I
Speaker 1: had a good time, but like they didn't know how
Speaker 1: to do anything either, because I feel like that's kind
Speaker 1: of like an ever changing industry, you know, And they're
Speaker 1: all like pretty old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, they're they're they the film school. I'm
Speaker 3: just I'm god, I've been on this rent eight thousand times,
Speaker 3: but yeah, the film school track is like the people
Speaker 3: who like teach at film school usually are like they'll
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, I've been working on the same documentary
Speaker 3: for seven years and we're going to try to get
Speaker 3: a grant for and it's just they're just in a
Speaker 3: universe that is not the universe of that media is
Speaker 3: actually consumed in. But anyway, so why why do you
Speaker 3: just want to sell apples? Why can't you sell apples?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I could, but like then, I
Speaker 1: also have this thing where like I obviously want to
Speaker 1: be like comfortable one day, you know, and like not
Speaker 1: having this. I feel like if you sell apples, you
Speaker 1: just sell You have to sell apples for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life to survive. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: be old selling apples. Interesting, what do you But I
Speaker 1: would like to I would like to be young and
Speaker 1: sell apples like right now, okay.
Speaker 3: Well what do you why not? I guess I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't see why you How old are you now?
Speaker 3: Are you twenty two?
Speaker 1: I'm twenty three?
Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking go sell apples? Why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe I will. I guess. It's more of the
Speaker 1: it's kind of this. I was actually talking to my
Speaker 1: coworker about this today, the feeling of like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: like I am gonna be like I'm gonna be like
Speaker 1: a middle aged person one day, like hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's like a that's that's kind of new to me,
Speaker 1: I guess, because I don't know. I was like really
Speaker 1: fucking around up until like right now, like this year
Speaker 1: pretty much and now like not to get all like
Speaker 1: existential I feel like, but it's just like damn, like
Speaker 1: this shit is real, you know, yeah, and like I
Speaker 1: can't just like I guess I could go home, but
Speaker 1: I that's not that's not the plane at all.
Speaker 3: You know, Yes, I know what you mean. I remember.
Speaker 3: I think it was twenty nineteen. I had my Yeah,
Speaker 3: when I was in twenty nineteen, I had my existential
Speaker 3: crisis of like, oh shit, this is real and I'm
Speaker 3: going to have to make money and have like a job,
Speaker 3: like have a job and figure out life. I think
Speaker 3: I was twenty twenty one, and you know, up until then,
Speaker 3: it's like I had just been I was in high
Speaker 3: school and I was making movies and doing stand up
Speaker 3: and then I went to film school, which, as you know,
Speaker 3: is nothing. And then I had a like I know,
Speaker 3: I was like you and I was like, oh, I've
Speaker 3: just been like fucking around and kind of getting to
Speaker 3: do whatever I want for twenty one fucking years and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna graduate soon and it's gonna get real. And
Speaker 3: then I just I mean, I just got really lucky.
Speaker 3: And now I'm now I now I do a podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, how is that? How's that going for you?
Speaker 1: Do you like it? Or is there something else that
Speaker 1: are you? Like, A damn it, now I have to
Speaker 1: do this fucking podcast again.
Speaker 3: In this very moment, I'm enjoying our conversation. I think
Speaker 3: it's because I'm on a little bit of caffeine, and
Speaker 3: it's also it's you're an easy person. I think you're
Speaker 3: an easy person to to talk to. I like because
Speaker 3: some you know, I like, I appreciate callers who will
Speaker 3: let me just go on really long rants an interrut.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't even think you were gonna I
Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna get on. So I'm like
Speaker 1: not prepared at all.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay, that's okay. There's nothing to prepare for.
Speaker 3: That's the guys, and there's other things I want to do.
Speaker 3: But I'm enjoying. I mean, it's nice. It's nice to
Speaker 3: get to talk to so many people. You know, it's
Speaker 3: been it's been great. Before this, my plan, I had
Speaker 3: a plan though. My plan was that I was going
Speaker 3: to I had been like helping like some of my
Speaker 3: dad's friends with like doing video, like helping them they
Speaker 3: ran like they're own, like law firms, and so I
Speaker 3: was helping them like make their make YouTube videos on
Speaker 3: Facebook videos to promote their law firms. And so that
Speaker 3: that was my plan. My plan was I was going
Speaker 3: to be like a social media manager for like dentists
Speaker 3: and lawyers and uh like small businesses, and I was
Speaker 3: gonna The plan was I was going to do that
Speaker 3: to make money and then on the side, uh, make
Speaker 3: my own videos and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of my plan right now. Honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: just like praying I can get a social media type
Speaker 1: job at least to say, I use my degree for
Speaker 1: a few years and then maybe I'll like magically figure
Speaker 1: out what I'm am like actually super into.
Speaker 3: I mean you want to you want to pick what?
Speaker 3: What would you say? You want to sell apples? Is
Speaker 3: that like a are you being specific? Or is that
Speaker 3: a is that is does sell apples? Is that a
Speaker 3: broad way of saying do something simple? And you know real?
Speaker 1: You know I It's it's more of just like a
Speaker 1: like a space filler, I guess, because like my my
Speaker 1: biggest problem is that I really I have like this
Speaker 1: sounds so depressing, but I have no passions. I feel
Speaker 1: like like my when you were sitting there talking about
Speaker 1: like literally just eating and watching YouTube. I've seriously considered.
Speaker 1: I'm like, should I do muck thangs? Like should I
Speaker 1: get famous for like being a fat ass or something?
Speaker 1: But like selling apples is just like a you know,
Speaker 1: like my just my blank spot for trying to figure
Speaker 1: out like what the fuck I actually want to do,
Speaker 1: because right now I sell T shirts and I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I was getting paid like ten more dollars an hour,
Speaker 1: I really like this would be fine, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And that's like kind of I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to be like, oh, like let me aspire
Speaker 1: to be something great. But like also like if I'm
Speaker 1: making money and doing an easy job, like I feel
Speaker 1: like I cannot complain, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I know exactly what you mean. I've been
Speaker 3: thinking about that a lot. I genuinely have. I've been
Speaker 3: thinking a lot about like, you know, I mean, there's
Speaker 3: infinite different ways to live life, and you don't and
Speaker 3: you can actually even kind of weave in and out
Speaker 3: of phases of your life where where like at some.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The thing I've been thinking about is like is it
Speaker 3: okay to just fucking live or do you always have
Speaker 3: to be like you're talking about, like striving to be
Speaker 3: great and striving to do be amazing. You know, it's
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: And I do I think it's I think it's totally
Speaker 1: fine to like have a humble living and like live
Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, but I guess I guess kind of
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm always on the Instagrams and
Speaker 1: the whatevers, and it's just like you see these people
Speaker 1: doing like insanely crazy things, like in your face all
Speaker 1: fucking day, and it's like, god damn it. Like I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here like hitting my vapes in the back of
Speaker 1: this tea shop.
Speaker 3: Dude, our fucking brains are not We're not meant to
Speaker 3: be I really do I really feel you on on
Speaker 3: all these things that you're talking about. They're all things
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about because I'm also on Instagram seeing
Speaker 3: people do cool things, and I'm like, gosh, should be
Speaker 3: doing more cool things. You know, our brain, our fucking
Speaker 3: brains are not meant to be doing this shit like
Speaker 3: we were. We were supposed to like live our own
Speaker 3: lives and because we had no other reference point, just
Speaker 3: be like, oh, the best thing you could do with
Speaker 3: your life is dig holes in the dirt for eighty years.
Speaker 3: And in some ways some in some ways it's a
Speaker 3: negative that we're exposed to fucking literally everything all the time,
Speaker 3: and then in some ways it's positive because it could
Speaker 3: be you know, inspiring to do Yeah, you know, in
Speaker 3: some way, I guess it. I guess with a lot
Speaker 3: of shit. It just kind of depends on how you
Speaker 3: look at it. Well, okay, so when when you're having
Speaker 3: everything shoved in your face on the computer, are there
Speaker 3: things in particular that jump out at you where you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I wish I was uh surfing or I don't whatever
Speaker 3: it is, you know.
Speaker 1: I so I like I like to watch the like
Speaker 1: travel vlogs or whatever. But also another weird thing is
Speaker 1: that like like when given the opportunity to like leave
Speaker 1: the country or like, you know, I had all these
Speaker 1: like study abroad opportunities in college, like I'm just like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't have a passport, Like I've
Speaker 1: never left the country, and like I also don't have
Speaker 1: like a dying urge to do so. And I'm like
Speaker 1: is that weird? Because everyone's like like, oh, you don't
Speaker 1: want to go on this little trip with me to
Speaker 1: this other country, and I'm like, look like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I I find some comfort in sitting
Speaker 1: there and just like watching other people do shit. But
Speaker 1: then like every now and then I'll be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like at least just like get up and
Speaker 1: open a window or some shit, you know, like feel
Speaker 1: feel some real error on you, Like you don't have
Speaker 1: to like go hop on a plane right now, but
Speaker 1: like figure something out.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's easier to get down on yourself
Speaker 1: when when all of that is happening, it's just like
Speaker 1: where should I even start? I guess, well.
Speaker 3: That I don't know. I mean, is it just like
Speaker 3: a sense of like all feeling guilty because you're not
Speaker 3: doing enough? Or is it like, oh I actively I
Speaker 3: mean you know it's something you don't actively want to
Speaker 3: do any of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's more like should I feel like
Speaker 1: I want to be doing this for everyone else is?
Speaker 1: But like I wouldn't even know that everyone else is
Speaker 1: if I wasn't, so just like on my phone, know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's really that damn phone.
Speaker 3: Like, but well, here's an here's another thing to think
Speaker 3: about God, I am, I'm I'm such a hypocrite with this,
Speaker 3: but I've been thinking about it because I'm also at
Speaker 3: a like a little inflection point where I'm trying to
Speaker 3: figure out, you know, my passions and dive deeper into them.
Speaker 3: But it's like the the the action I'm gonna I am.
Speaker 3: If you saw how I spent my day today, you
Speaker 3: would kill me for saying this, But it is. I
Speaker 3: But you have to believe in the idea, not the
Speaker 3: fact that I scrolled Instagram for like five fucking hours today.
Speaker 3: The action predicates the motivation, you know what I mean? Okay,
Speaker 3: So like so like, look, you're never gonna know if
Speaker 3: you like traveling abroad or doing whatever the fuck these
Speaker 3: things or selling fucking apples unless if you like, go
Speaker 3: do it, you know, right, So I mean, give it.
Speaker 3: If you can give it a shot, give it, you know,
Speaker 3: give it a shot, and then you'll see and then
Speaker 3: and then it's nice, right because if you go to
Speaker 3: France or whatever and you get there and you're like,
Speaker 3: I really wish I was eating a sandwich and watching
Speaker 3: TV right now, then great, you did it. You have
Speaker 3: verifiable evidence that you don't actually want to do any
Speaker 3: of this shit. I don't know. I don't know where
Speaker 3: I stand on that side. I've been thinking, I really
Speaker 3: truly it's sorta Maddie matt I ever really truly have
Speaker 3: been thinking about this a lot lately, about like feeling
Speaker 3: guilty because you feel like you should want something but
Speaker 3: then not inherently craving it, And I don't know where
Speaker 3: I land on it. I think I land on the
Speaker 3: idea that the action predicates the motivation and that you
Speaker 3: know you do shit, and then fucking yeah, I think that.
Speaker 3: I think that's where I ultimately land on. Because you
Speaker 3: don't want to be you don't want to be like
Speaker 3: eighty because, like you said, as you realized, you will
Speaker 3: be uh old, and you don't want to you don't
Speaker 3: want to regret things. But it's also so fucking ea,
Speaker 3: I'm realizing this. It's also so fucking easy. If you're eighty,
Speaker 3: it would be really easy for you to go. I
Speaker 3: swear on my life, if you're eighty, it would be
Speaker 3: really easy for you to go. You know, I spent
Speaker 3: my life eating sandwiches and watching TV, and honestly, at
Speaker 3: the age of eighty, now that it's all over, I
Speaker 3: had a great time doing that and then die. Why not?
Speaker 3: Why not? Why not? Everyone talks about the deathbed like
Speaker 3: it's such and this is all very demotivational. But I
Speaker 3: really have been thinking about that because, you know what,
Speaker 3: if you got I really because when I sit down
Speaker 3: and I eat a sandwich, I was just telling you,
Speaker 3: When I eat the fucking sandwich in the frize and
Speaker 3: I'm watching a YouTube video of ten facts you didn't
Speaker 3: know about Zelda's Skywards Sword, I really can I really
Speaker 3: have tapped into this ability in this moment to be like,
Speaker 3: what an honor it is to eat of this bread
Speaker 3: and watch of the YouTube video? What an honor it is?
Speaker 3: And I think when I'm on my deathbed, I could like,
Speaker 3: if I died tomorrow, you know, I don't think I
Speaker 3: would regret the time I spent doing that. I mean,
Speaker 3: i'd like to. I'm very happy that I got to
Speaker 3: also go on lots of adventures and have great relationships
Speaker 3: and with friends, and do work that I was proud
Speaker 3: of and what and I ultimately would like to do
Speaker 3: more of those things and less eating sandwiches and watching TV.
Speaker 3: But if it ended up that all you ever did
Speaker 3: was eat sandwiches, and watch TV. You could you could
Speaker 3: feasibly make peace with that in a way that wouldn't
Speaker 3: be absurd.
Speaker 1: You know, there's really there was really no other time
Speaker 1: like in human history where someone could do that, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, basic basic humanity is Like what do you
Speaker 3: have parents? Right? Mm hmm, Like do you have a
Speaker 3: good relationship with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like yeah, we're all right.
Speaker 3: Do you have friends?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorta. I I definitely have friends. I guess that's
Speaker 1: another thing, Like since I've moved. I've been in a
Speaker 1: different state now for like four years now, and it's
Speaker 1: been a lot harder to make friends for some reason.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like the older you get, the harder
Speaker 1: it is to just be like you want to hang
Speaker 1: out after this or something, you know. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: have a I have a solid little group of people,
Speaker 1: and I have some friends that are gonna move with
Speaker 1: me in the summer. But and you know, I say
Speaker 1: all this like ship, like, oh, I don't know what
Speaker 1: I want to do, but like I am also a
Speaker 1: very lucky person and I've I've like made it this far,
Speaker 1: you know, so something will work out.
Speaker 3: I mean again, if you died tomorrow, you could be like, well,
Speaker 3: I had friends, and I had a decent enough relationship
Speaker 3: with my mom. And yeah, you know, I got to
Speaker 3: watch YouTube. This is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to talk to the therapy. Get go.
Speaker 3: I I really it's I it's cool going to talk
Speaker 3: to you about all this, because I swear I've been
Speaker 3: like deep in thought about uh like ambition and whatnot.
Speaker 3: I'm always it's a personal it's a person no choice. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, I.
Speaker 1: Also will say I used to be like, you know,
Speaker 1: when I first when I first left my hometown, and
Speaker 1: like my freshman year of college, like I graduated high
Speaker 1: school twenty twenty, so I the whole COVID thing was happening,
Speaker 1: and literally like it was like rock bottom for me.
Speaker 1: I was literally sick every day. I went to college
Speaker 1: and lost like fifty pounds and I like came back
Speaker 1: looking sickly or whatever. And like now I work nine
Speaker 1: to five and I go to the gym after and
Speaker 1: I eat Quen wall So it's like I'm doing something.
Speaker 1: But then it's like, you know, I don't I know, right,
Speaker 1: I am like quen wah. But literally it's like I
Speaker 1: gotta get I gotta keep getting better, I guess in
Speaker 1: my head. And but I have been a lot worse.
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, I'm doing I'm doing good now
Speaker 1: I have better and.
Speaker 3: I have this theory. I have this theory. I have
Speaker 3: not experienced it in my personal life, but I I
Speaker 3: am optimistically believing that it is possible. My theory is
Speaker 3: that it it is possible to achieve things and improve
Speaker 3: it life and be ambitious without fucking hating yourself. I
Speaker 3: have not gotten experience. I have not yet personally experienced this,
Speaker 3: but I have to believe it's possible. Maybe maybe it's like, like,
Speaker 3: I like, I can you be ambitious from a place
Speaker 3: of not hating yourself, because there's a weird like when
Speaker 3: like being ambitious and like wanting to improve yourself and
Speaker 3: do stuff kind of comes with the inherent partilate that
Speaker 3: you are not enough. And I argue, I have you know,
Speaker 3: ambitious friends, and I argue with We kind of talked
Speaker 3: back and forth about the whole like being enough thing,
Speaker 3: and I'm I don't like I get I guess like
Speaker 3: if you're like unhappy, like I think it's a weird
Speaker 3: paradox because like you take people who are like unhappy
Speaker 3: and you try to and you say like, oh, but
Speaker 3: you are enough as you are, and it's like, well,
Speaker 3: if I'm enough as I am, why why am I
Speaker 3: fucking miserable? You know? So on that sense, I I
Speaker 3: don't like the the the movement of you are enough.
Speaker 3: But then I like, when I look at it on
Speaker 3: the flip side, I'm like, well, you know you never
Speaker 3: get there. You know you can have infinite improvement and
Speaker 3: infinite success and it will never be enough, And so
Speaker 3: what you just hate yourself into improvement forever? That's that
Speaker 3: also seems fucked to me. So I don't know the answer.
Speaker 3: The answer lies somewhere in the middle. I haven't figured
Speaker 3: it out yet, but I think there's I think there's
Speaker 3: a balance. It's it's gotta be some balance of the two,
Speaker 3: because if you're just just accepting that you're enough and
Speaker 3: you're miserable all the time, then you're something's clearly off.
Speaker 3: But if the opposite is just hating yourself forever, then
Speaker 3: what kind of life is that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: I do kind of feel like some of the most
Speaker 1: like ambitious people in my life also have this, like, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: my best friend she is in like every college club
Speaker 1: dean's list every year, winning awards all the time for
Speaker 1: some shit I didn't even know she was doing, but
Speaker 1: then will tell me like all the time, like I
Speaker 1: literally like everything I do, like I hate myself, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm like how And I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: me too, But how is this manifesting so differently like
Speaker 1: in our two lives? Because when I'm having that like
Speaker 1: I fucking hate myself thing, I will shut down for
Speaker 1: a week and like consider quitting my job and just
Speaker 1: self distruct I guess. But she will just keep picking
Speaker 1: up things and has like an extensive resume And I'm like, how,
Speaker 1: you know, do you know anyone like that? Do you
Speaker 1: have anyone like that in your life?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how did you How did she get that
Speaker 1: into the stick?
Speaker 4: And I didn't, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's the same with like those ultra running people,
Speaker 1: like well they'll run for like one hundred miles and
Speaker 1: be like yeah, like something super traumatic happened in my
Speaker 1: life to where this is what I do now, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, god damn, Like if something traumatic happened in
Speaker 1: my life, like I'd probably be sitting here eating the
Speaker 1: pizza still, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I always think about those like people who don't have
Speaker 3: arms and legs that like didn't fucking go climb a mountain,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have arms and legs, and I
Speaker 1: still didn't climb the mountain. But Monday one day, I might.
Speaker 3: I don't. I actually, I'm not gonna say I don't
Speaker 3: have answers to all these things, because I actually think
Speaker 3: I do or I don't. No, No, I don't have answers,
Speaker 3: but I'm I have theories and I'm working on them.
Speaker 3: I think my current theory is, uh, well, like I
Speaker 3: procrastinated all day on making a fucking video, and then
Speaker 3: once I actually finished it, I felt good. And then
Speaker 3: I so I think there's got to be a balance
Speaker 3: of like, Okay, you don't procrastinate and like do the
Speaker 3: things you want to do and make the things you're
Speaker 3: trying to make, and then you'll feel better when you
Speaker 3: make those positive choices and changes, and then from there
Speaker 3: you actually do yeah, and then from there you know,
Speaker 3: drink as much as you want and gamble and watch
Speaker 3: YouTube and.
Speaker 1: You mean, like as a reward.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what I mean, I
Speaker 3: really don't, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Because I'll do that. I'll do I'll do one good
Speaker 1: thing in my day. And then I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can do whatever I want now. Like, for example, I
Speaker 1: usually go out on Thursdays and do karaoke, and last
Speaker 1: Thursday I didn't go, and I was like, since I
Speaker 1: won't be spending money at karaoke, I can go eat
Speaker 1: four donuts for breakfast today, Yeah, as a reward. And
Speaker 1: then it's just like, well, that wasn't a reward. You
Speaker 1: You might as well have just gotten done karaoke and
Speaker 1: spent your money, you know.
Speaker 3: But now see how great would your day be if
Speaker 3: you went you took a long walk and you're like,
Speaker 3: all right, I achieved my fitness goal for the day.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do karaoke. That's a great day. See.
Speaker 3: It's a balance, It's a fucking balance. I think the
Speaker 3: answer I think there's the I think the like the
Speaker 3: capitalist thing of like you are never enough and you
Speaker 3: must keep improving is not like there's like something that
Speaker 3: gets somewhere between. There's something like the philosophies of like
Speaker 3: the socialist you are enough and everything is fine all
Speaker 3: the time, Like there's something in between those two they're
Speaker 3: like something we need a balance of the two.
Speaker 1: There is I think one one other thing not to
Speaker 1: be that guy. I've recently stopped smoking so much weed,
Speaker 1: and like that has been. That's been like the best thing.
Speaker 1: I think. It did make me gain like a ton
Speaker 1: of weight, which kind of sucks. But also like I
Speaker 1: remember to do things and I don't have like that
Speaker 1: constant like oh my god, you fucking suck thing over
Speaker 1: my head at this point, I still do sometimes. And
Speaker 1: also fuck that whole thing where people are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: weed is an addicting because seriously, like there was a
Speaker 1: weird brain switch that happened to me like two years ago,
Speaker 1: where like all of a sudden I would smoke the
Speaker 1: tiniest amount of weed and like just get scared. And
Speaker 1: it still happens, and it's happened. It started two years ago,
Speaker 1: and to this day, I still smoke every day, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like before I go to bed
Speaker 1: or whatever, cause I guess it's sort of just like
Speaker 1: a ritual I've built in my head. But like every
Speaker 1: day I smoke my weed and get scared and go
Speaker 1: to sleep, and it's like, man, this shit is fucking addicting,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not like crack or anything.
Speaker 3: It is. It is very hilarious. How many times I've
Speaker 3: been like, Oh, I'm gonna smoke weed before I go
Speaker 3: to the grocery store, and then I have a panic
Speaker 3: the grocery store. And then the next day, dude, and
Speaker 3: then the next day I'm like, I should fucking smoke
Speaker 3: weed before I go to the grocery store.
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds so nice, And it used to be,
Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, like in high school, I was
Speaker 1: literally like all day long, just like high as fuck,
Speaker 1: hitting the dappin, smoking joints, hitting the bong or whatever.
Speaker 1: And now it's like one little rip of the bong
Speaker 1: and it's like ruined my whole day and I have
Speaker 1: to go to sleep. I guess that's part of I've
Speaker 1: heard that happening like to other people, and I guess
Speaker 1: it's just part of Like I guess you just hit
Speaker 1: your limit eventually. But I if you asked me when
Speaker 1: I was seventeen, like, are you gonna be scared of
Speaker 1: weed randomly one day, I'd be like, why would that happen?
Speaker 1: You know, Like I don't know what happened in my brain,
Speaker 1: but I can pinpoint the exact day it happened. And
Speaker 1: it's been that way ever since, and I still haven't stopped.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: I have. I have significantly cut down and it's been
Speaker 1: super helpful and on the normal side of living honestly.
Speaker 3: Maddie, mm hmm. Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 3: say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 1: No, is not. I really appreciate you picking.
Speaker 3: Up, of course. Good luck with your life. Thank you, Uh,
Speaker 3: you know everything I was gonna say. I was gonna
Speaker 3: say everything will probably be fine, but that yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean everything will be fine. Everyone, everything is
Speaker 3: gonna everyone will die, and it will be good because
Speaker 3: that's we'll go back. We'll go, we'll return, We'll return
Speaker 3: to the prodigal son. I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Thank you for calling, Maddy. I'll see you around the universe.
Speaker 3: Lyle bye. That was a nice conversation. That was good.
Speaker 3: I am. Yeah, a lot of those things that Maddie
Speaker 3: was talking about. I was thinking about a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know how ambitious you're supposed to be or
Speaker 3: like the weird, like the thing of like, oh, should
Speaker 3: I be feeling certain feelings? I don't know. There's probably
Speaker 3: some book about all this ship that I talk about
Speaker 3: on this show that is like, here's what you here's
Speaker 3: here's what your brain should be doing at all times.
Speaker 3: And I'll just one day I'll find it and everything
Speaker 3: and people will call me and I'll just be like, well,
Speaker 3: here's what it says in the book that knows everything,
Speaker 3: because there's always a fucking book that knows everything.
Speaker 2: Hi, what's your name, Tony the Tiger.
Speaker 3: Tony the Tiger. What's up, Tony the Tiger? What are
Speaker 3: you doing?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Nothing much, man. I just finished playing pickle ball. It's
Speaker 2: played about an hour and a half to pick a ball,
Speaker 2: So just kind of relaxing for the rest of the night.
Speaker 3: M Is there anything in particular that you called in
Speaker 3: want to talk about Tony the Tiger?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I just Uh. I'm graduating from medical school
Speaker 2: in about a month, so it's kind of a big
Speaker 2: transition for me. I'm starting residency in July, so it's
Speaker 2: a big It's a big thing for me, a big
Speaker 2: life event.
Speaker 3: Uh Y, are you excited? What are you in? Residency?
Speaker 3: For like what kind of medicine.
Speaker 2: So internal medicine. So that's like you know when you
Speaker 2: think doctor, that's like the doctor like you know, like
Speaker 2: when you go to the hospital, the one that just
Speaker 2: sees you rounds on you every day.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 2: Get kind of like general medicine type.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get to look inside of a lot of ears.
Speaker 2: Well not in the hospital so much. A lot of
Speaker 2: hospitals don't even have that tool to look in the ears.
Speaker 2: You just kind of got to bring your own around.
Speaker 2: And if you don't have it and then you're not
Speaker 2: looking in any years, wait.
Speaker 3: A minute, you have to buy you you're like a
Speaker 3: teacher at an underfunded school. You have to bring your
Speaker 3: own shit.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of the hospitals, like you go
Speaker 2: in the room and they don't even they don't even
Speaker 2: have like the tools and stuff on the wall all.
Speaker 2: A lot of times that's more in like a clinic.
Speaker 2: That's more in like you go into the clinic, like
Speaker 2: your primarary doctor to get like a check up for
Speaker 2: you know, your struped throat or whatever.
Speaker 3: So you just got like a steph of scope in
Speaker 3: your pocket with your like phone and keys and vape
Speaker 3: and ship and you bring it into the hospital.
Speaker 2: I try to stay away from the vape. I've had
Speaker 2: a couple of classmates that pulled out their vape in
Speaker 2: the hospital, Like we're walking through the er and they
Speaker 2: just start vaping. I'm like, dude, we're gonna get kicked
Speaker 2: out of here, like stop stop sucking vaping, Like just
Speaker 2: walking by the patient room and they just put It's
Speaker 2: just like automatic because like the nicotine addiction, they think,
Speaker 2: do it without thinking about it.
Speaker 3: You know, how was medical school? It sounds like it
Speaker 3: was easy.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was the easiest four years of my life
Speaker 2: for sure. No, it was. It was super hard man.
Speaker 2: I would say the first year, what was the hardest.
Speaker 2: I think you've mentioned that you have friends who were
Speaker 2: in med school or something, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I have one of my best friends
Speaker 3: is is about to start as residency.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, you know a little bit about it.
Speaker 2: But for the listeners or whatever, it's like first year
Speaker 2: is when you have like all the classes at once.
Speaker 2: So you got like anatomy, like your general class where
Speaker 2: you learn how to like treat patients and be a doctor.
Speaker 2: And then I'm at a doo school, so I'll theopathic medicine,
Speaker 2: so you have to do like spinal manipulation stuff. So
Speaker 2: that's another class. You're doing all that at once, and
Speaker 2: it's just freaking brutal. Like people like either like turn
Speaker 2: to like drugs that first semester or they like like
Speaker 2: try to like you know, fuck the classmates. Like there's
Speaker 2: a lot of like relationships that popped up. Like the
Speaker 2: first semester that was this is everyone was like really stressed,
Speaker 2: you know, and trying to.
Speaker 3: Like doing doing drugs and trying to fuck your classmates
Speaker 3: sounds pretty standard.
Speaker 2: No, oh, that's yeah, that's pretty standards. That's pretty standard stuff.
Speaker 3: So that was across across all disciplines.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, even if you're like, uh, you know, an
Speaker 2: accountant school, you're also trying to fuck your classmates. So
Speaker 2: it's it's across all disciplines. But that's the hardest semester.
Speaker 2: And then it's like once you figure out how to study,
Speaker 2: you just kind of coast from there and you're just
Speaker 2: kind of chilling trying to get to third year. When
Speaker 2: you're actually third years, like when you do your clinicals
Speaker 2: and you actually like get to go out and you
Speaker 2: have to like you know, sit in your apartment for
Speaker 2: twelve hours a day by yourself, like eating grub hub
Speaker 2: every day. You're actually out in the hospital like doing things.
Speaker 2: That was my like first year, it was just like
Speaker 2: ordering grub Hub and studying. So I got like the
Speaker 2: freshman of fifteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you excited to be a doctor? That's so real.
Speaker 3: That's such a real job. It's an interesting it's an
Speaker 3: interesting thing because like like the previous caller that we talked.
Speaker 2: To, I didn't hear that, but yeah, she.
Speaker 3: Was kind of like, oh, like what am I going
Speaker 3: to be doing when I'm fifty? And I also have
Speaker 3: that thing, and I have some friends who I'm also like,
Speaker 3: what the hell are we going to be doing when
Speaker 3: we're like old and shit? And but what you're doing
Speaker 3: is interesting because you kind of know you're how old
Speaker 3: are you?
Speaker 2: Thirties and my early thirties.
Speaker 3: Early thirties, see, but you kind of know what you're
Speaker 3: going to be doing for the entire rest of your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you generally know, Like each day is different. That's why,
Speaker 2: like I like medicine because you're not you're not doing
Speaker 2: the same necessarily the same thing over and over because
Speaker 2: you're seeing different patients. Every day. So but you generally
Speaker 2: know what you're going to be doing, and you have
Speaker 2: like pretty good job security, i'd say, because you actually
Speaker 2: like have like a thought after skill. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like I think, like coding, you know,
Speaker 2: is another one where you have like job security because
Speaker 2: you have like a sought after school and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of jobs where it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: you know what you're going to be doing, Like you said,
Speaker 2: until until you're like fifty, you don't have like any
Speaker 2: you know, there's no blackness, you know, kind of in
Speaker 2: front of you for what your career is going to be.
Speaker 2: Like do you like that? I do like that. I
Speaker 2: think it's it just gives you, like it takes one
Speaker 2: more stress out of life. Like you know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people who have jobs where like they're not sure.
Speaker 2: I worked at a job where I was like not
Speaker 2: sure if I was going to get laid off, not
Speaker 2: necessarily fired, but like laid off. And I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people have that in their careers and it
Speaker 2: could be any type of job. You know, even doctors
Speaker 2: can get laid off, but like there's less of a
Speaker 2: chance of that, especially if you're at like a hospital
Speaker 2: that's kind of more rural. So I do like that,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I just you know, and I don't really
Speaker 2: I think like it's not the only way to go
Speaker 2: and in your life, you know, like there's tons of
Speaker 2: different career pathways you can go where you have job
Speaker 2: security and doesn't require like an extra seven years just
Speaker 2: to school, you know. So it's like I just did
Speaker 2: it because I couldn't see myself doing anything else.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a great reasons like I do it.
Speaker 3: Can AI replace the doctors or are you guys good.
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 2: I was literally thinking about that today because I was
Speaker 2: I saw a meme or not a meme, but like
Speaker 2: a post about the Medtronic. The company has like a
Speaker 2: new robot where they're they're able to do like the
Speaker 2: surgery general surgeries like appendectomies and stuff like where you
Speaker 2: take your appendix out with's like the same error rate
Speaker 2: as like a regular surgeon. But the robots aren't actually robots.
Speaker 2: They're being controlled by the surgeon like remotely, so there's
Speaker 2: no there's no autonomous robots at this point even remotely
Speaker 2: doing surgery. So it's gonna be a long time. The
Speaker 2: first thing to go. I think it's gonna be like
Speaker 2: radiology because you're like looking at X rays and there's
Speaker 2: like pattern recognition software, you know. And then same thing
Speaker 2: for like pathology, where you're just like looking at microscope slides.
Speaker 2: You're just looking for patterns. So I think that's another
Speaker 2: thing that could be the next one for AI, but
Speaker 2: just for like a regular doctor where you're just like
Speaker 2: you need empathy, you need to talk to the patient,
Speaker 2: talk to the family, make decisions on the fly. That's
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be a little harder.
Speaker 3: That makes sense there, Yeah, yeah, it does, like uh,
Speaker 3: you know, you want I mean, yeah, part of your
Speaker 3: job is like talking to people and doing stuff that
Speaker 3: I guess a robot can't do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And maybe at some point we'll have like
Speaker 2: freaking matrix robots that just like take over and they're
Speaker 2: the doctors. But I don't know if they'll be evil,
Speaker 2: Maybe they won't want to treat humans, so I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but maybe at one point
Speaker 2: we'll have that. I don't know. It's gonna be a
Speaker 2: long time, probably. I don't think in our lifetime. Low.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be way past when we're or alive,
Speaker 2: that that's gonna be fully like honest robots doing surgery,
Speaker 2: that's my opinion.
Speaker 3: But well that are you excited for that? I mean,
Speaker 3: like do you feel like they'll be better?
Speaker 2: I really think like the biggest thing that patients like
Speaker 2: say to me that they like about me is that
Speaker 2: I'm like generally pretty personal. They're like that. They're like
Speaker 2: the I'm like the nicest person to come in the
Speaker 2: room all day and just talk to them. And you know,
Speaker 2: human touch is another thing. So like I don't know
Speaker 2: if you ever had a doctor that just went in
Speaker 2: and like didn't even touch you, like do a physical exam,
Speaker 2: and you're like, what the fuck's that? Like did he
Speaker 2: even do anything? Or even do anything? So it's like
Speaker 2: that's a big part of being a doctor is like
Speaker 2: the human compassion, human touch aspect. So I mean you
Speaker 2: want like a cold, like silvery robot hand doing a
Speaker 2: physical exam on you, you know, or I guess they
Speaker 2: could they could do like a warming thing of the
Speaker 2: hand with the robots, but I don't know, I think
Speaker 2: that the human side is like a big thing. I thought,
Speaker 2: I'm not really excited for that to be a thing.
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting when like you have kids who grew
Speaker 3: up with robots.
Speaker 2: You know, Well, it'd be like Alledium, like that movie
Speaker 2: with Matt Damon where this guy Elysium where the rich
Speaker 2: people just like go get into a pod with robots
Speaker 2: and they just are like automatically healed. But the poor
Speaker 2: people don't have access to that. It could be like
Speaker 2: that something.
Speaker 3: I think. I think, I think I got to stop
Speaker 3: talking about AI so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, but yeah, just yeah, I'm excited to do
Speaker 2: it for residency. I'm excited to be a doctor. I
Speaker 2: don't have to walk into a room and say I'm
Speaker 2: this I'm student doctor Tony and Tiger, and I can
Speaker 2: just be like, I'm doctor Tony the Tuger. I can
Speaker 2: just actually be more confident. You know what, I.
Speaker 3: Forgot that you started this call by saying that you
Speaker 3: were Tony the Tiger.
Speaker 2: Well, dude, Tony Tiger's a He's a forgotten mascot.
Speaker 3: So I wonder I see when Honestly, when you said that,
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to bed of a dumb
Speaker 3: ass troll. But you're actually like a smart guy.
Speaker 2: I was just trying to come up with the name. Dude,
Speaker 2: I just popped into my head and I was just
Speaker 2: coming up with a stupid team. I don't want to
Speaker 2: troll you, dude, y'll be listening to you. You were
Speaker 2: one of the podcasts that getting me through med school.
Speaker 1: Do.
Speaker 2: I started listening to you my first semester in med
Speaker 2: school and like what, I'm just like vibing out chilling
Speaker 2: after test you. I just listened for like four hours, yeah,
Speaker 2: and just like chill. So I think you you can,
Speaker 2: I can. I shout out a couple other my podcasts
Speaker 2: that got me through the tough time. Go ahead, bad friends,
Speaker 2: Bobby Lee, my boy Andrew Sentino. I know Bobby Lee
Speaker 2: was on your your podcast, and then uh ceo Von
Speaker 2: this past weekend. He's he's a cool, cool dude. So
Speaker 2: those ones have been great, dude. And then I got
Speaker 2: into doctor Drew after seeing uh seeing him on your
Speaker 2: podcast also.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so yeah, there's.
Speaker 2: Just like yat to have someone anyone's thinking about doing
Speaker 2: some sort of horror graduate agree now as med school
Speaker 2: or anything, you got to have like some sort of outlet,
Speaker 2: you know, the whether it's like chilling listening podcast. I
Speaker 2: just would go for a three four out walk and
Speaker 2: just listen to therapy. Get go just kind of chill
Speaker 2: and get out, like you said, you always say get outside,
Speaker 2: like that's anyone can just go outside, just walk outside.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I kind of like bringing this back to the previous
Speaker 3: conversation that I just had, and I know you weren't
Speaker 3: there for it, but it was a lot about like
Speaker 3: ambition versus not and talking to you is interesting because
Speaker 3: the world does require the continued existence of the human
Speaker 3: you know what's fucking oh man, okay, hold, I'm about
Speaker 3: to fuck my mind. The continued existence of the human
Speaker 3: race is kind of dependent upon people having ambition, because
Speaker 3: we need people like you to be ambitious enough to
Speaker 3: go become doctors. So if everyone decided that watching TV
Speaker 3: and eating sandwiches was enough, we'd be fucked. But also,
Speaker 3: but also also on top of that, I.
Speaker 5: Kind of have a little part of me that goes,
Speaker 5: you know what, if the human race died out because
Speaker 5: we all got lazy and decided that eating sandwiches was enough,
Speaker 5: and then we all died, maybe it kind of really
Speaker 5: was enough and we could all just die.
Speaker 3: That's insane. I'm insane. I gotta stop talking like this.
Speaker 3: I really I don't know what the fuck happened to me.
Speaker 3: You've been listening to me, What's what is this? Okay?
Speaker 3: You've been listening to me go crazy for a month.
Speaker 3: What does that sound like to you? Am I insane?
Speaker 2: Dude? I love it. I know you're just because you've
Speaker 2: been driving a lot and you've been like probably really tired,
Speaker 2: and just like had the opportunity to be like thinking
Speaker 2: all the time because you're I mean, I'm assuming like
Speaker 2: you're traveling alone a lot of times, so you just
Speaker 2: when you have the time to think by yourself, sometimes
Speaker 2: you just go into spirals. I think everybody does that,
Speaker 2: Like I've been doing that the third year of med
Speaker 2: school because I don't talk anyone. I just go to
Speaker 2: the hospital and come home and I just think about shit.
Speaker 2: So it's like, it's not You're not going crazy, dude,
Speaker 2: You're just thinking a lot, and you're probably taking yourself
Speaker 2: into like just a bunch of spiraling dark holes. It
Speaker 2: doesn't sound you're definitely different than you were, but you're
Speaker 2: I still love listening to you. Like you're just changing
Speaker 2: with you know, with your experiences and stuff.
Speaker 3: It's scary, though, I don't want to be different than
Speaker 3: how I know. I I've thought myself into. I've kind
Speaker 3: of it feels almost as though I've irreversibly thought myself
Speaker 3: into Like today I was just I was on I
Speaker 3: was procrastinating, and I was like asking chat gybt if
Speaker 3: science could verifiably deny that we are living in a
Speaker 3: simulation and shit like that, And I was really I
Speaker 3: really like like like people say shit like like like
Speaker 3: people get high and say like, oh, could we be
Speaker 3: living in a simulation? But like I felt that, and
Speaker 3: I really felt I really was left for a for
Speaker 3: a while still, I'm like, oh, fuck, are we living
Speaker 3: in a simulation?
Speaker 2: But that's how you my quick thought on that. It's
Speaker 2: like there's a dud that used to listen to you
Speaker 2: on Serious XM and he would just be like, well,
Speaker 2: who the fuck here is if you're living in you know, simulation,
Speaker 2: you still have you're still living. Just enjoy like the experience,
Speaker 2: like everyone dies, like, just enjoy it while you're here.
Speaker 2: And there's probably no way that you're ever gonna know
Speaker 2: if you're living in a simulation, So just keep going.
Speaker 2: Just have fun, go out with friends, you know, do
Speaker 2: fun things, travel like you do, talk to people, and
Speaker 2: just enjoy it, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all these things I'm thinking about. All these things
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about, you're not supposed to be thinking about
Speaker 3: them for too long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might. You might have gotten a little bit
Speaker 2: too deep into this.
Speaker 3: I think that's why I got a little bit too deep.
Speaker 3: Outside of the matrix, there's no there's no bottom, there's
Speaker 3: no and you know, getting you know, reading like I
Speaker 3: don't read books. I I don't read books. I adhd
Speaker 3: scramble around Wikipedia, and I was doing that today. I
Speaker 3: was ADHD scrambling around Wikipedia, like looking at like the
Speaker 3: Wikipedia page of consciousness and of like like ship like
Speaker 3: that and like looking at like like skimming through the
Speaker 3: Wikipedia pages of like philosophers is doing that today and
Speaker 3: like reading about like theories of consciousness. And it felt
Speaker 3: important to like dive into a little bit. But you don't,
Speaker 3: you'll you'll it'll it will kind of if you go
Speaker 3: too deep into that, it'll kind of ruin your life.
Speaker 2: Like like athletes or something or like like I love
Speaker 2: Jamie Soox. I just Wikipedia Jamie Fox over and over. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just Wikia like fun things a
Speaker 2: Wikipedia racist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to do that on stream. But if
Speaker 3: you go too deep into like existentialist thoughts and theory
Speaker 3: and stuff. It just will ruin. It ruined my life
Speaker 3: for a little bit. I'm trying to get out of it,
Speaker 3: and I actually think I will. I think the key
Speaker 3: to getting out of it is you got you just
Speaker 3: gotta do. You just gotta be in your life. You
Speaker 3: gotta have responsibilities, you gotta. I mean, you're a great
Speaker 3: example of a real person because you have so many
Speaker 3: like being in residency. I mean, you don't have time
Speaker 3: to think about fucking like what happens after we die,
Speaker 3: because you're so in life.
Speaker 2: It's frozen meals over and in my life.
Speaker 3: That's the key. You gotta be in your life in
Speaker 3: some way, shape or form, whether it's being with people
Speaker 3: or working or what. You gotta be in your life
Speaker 3: because if you if.
Speaker 2: You gotta go do something real, like you gotta do
Speaker 2: something real, solid, objectively real that can get like y'all
Speaker 2: just sit in your room. I know if people I've
Speaker 2: been that way before, while I've been depressed, I just
Speaker 2: want to sit in my room. But you just got
Speaker 2: to force yourself to go out and do things, you know,
Speaker 2: which is easier said and done.
Speaker 3: But I've had too little responsibility because I was touring
Speaker 3: and traveling for a while, and now that I'm now,
Speaker 3: I'm not and I think I've had too little responsive.
Speaker 3: My responsibility has become too little. Now that I'm I thought,
Speaker 3: I literally thought about that. I thought about that. I'm like,
Speaker 3: should I just have a But that's a that's a
Speaker 3: bad reason to have a kid.
Speaker 2: No, I know, don't have kids. Maybe get like a
Speaker 2: goldfish or something.
Speaker 3: I do you have once you yeah, if you have
Speaker 3: too little responsibility, you start thinking and I'm actually I
Speaker 3: mean this, I'm I am glad that I don't think
Speaker 3: this will last forever. I'm optimistic that I'll I'll heal myself.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad I had this little era in my
Speaker 3: life because I think it's an honor as a human
Speaker 3: being to get to this point where you're so did
Speaker 3: like in the like conscious of these crazy kind of
Speaker 3: terrifying existential things, like because I do believe I'll be
Speaker 3: able to like see it and then go back to
Speaker 3: like let me stop at a stop sign and like
Speaker 3: an Instagram put it just like whatever the bullshit of life.
Speaker 2: And everybody goes through it. Dude, there's like it's just
Speaker 2: kind of stupid reference but there's that episode of Knock
Speaker 2: Them Now from the Middle where like Malcolm like goes
Speaker 2: into like the existential crisis and like doesn't believe that
Speaker 2: anything's real and just like super depressed, and like his
Speaker 2: mom's like she's like, don't worry about respent like two
Speaker 2: days in the dryer, just like sitting in the dryer,
Speaker 2: like thinking about life. That's like everyone like experiences that
Speaker 2: kind of thing where they're just like, what is life?
Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on? Some people experienced it
Speaker 2: later than others, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I actually I don't know if everyone experiences that. I
Speaker 3: think it's no, Like do you think no some people
Speaker 3: are too, I don't think. I I genuinely I don't
Speaker 3: think every single person experiences that.
Speaker 2: Okay again, Yeah, yeah, it's hard to talking absolute, so
Speaker 2: probably you're probably correct.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, okay again again alluding to the previous
Speaker 3: conversation I just had. We were talking about like people
Speaker 3: who are like eighty years old and like arguing about
Speaker 3: coupons with people or whatever. You know, I'm talking about
Speaker 3: like angry eighty year old.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I think if you're I think
Speaker 3: if you're eighty years old and you are arguing with
Speaker 3: a retail worker, you've probably never had an existential crisis
Speaker 3: in your entire life. I would gander that.
Speaker 2: That's probably true if you're like pinching pennies like that,
Speaker 2: Like what are those people called that are the super
Speaker 2: coupons or whatever that are like they try to they
Speaker 2: spend hours trying to like save money on shit with coupons.
Speaker 2: Those people probably never.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well not necessarily like people who not necessarily like
Speaker 3: penny pinchers, but just people who like they like are like,
Speaker 3: you know, concerned with like complete other. But if you're
Speaker 3: eighty years old and you were just concerned about like
Speaker 3: complete other bullshit that has fucking like nothing to do
Speaker 3: with you, you've probably ever had an existential crisis, which
Speaker 3: is But so I guess I think.
Speaker 2: What's another example of that though, like something that had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with you that is bullshit? What's what's
Speaker 2: one other?
Speaker 3: Let me think, like sorry to challenge you, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: this is it's okay. I'm trying. I'm trying to think
Speaker 3: of like concrete examples.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of one too, but I don't know,
Speaker 2: like what you're I don't know, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like what you're like what someone else is wearing, maybe.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, sure sure something like that, you know, or
Speaker 3: I don't know, if you're like crazy what you know
Speaker 3: what you know what I mean though, like people definitely
Speaker 3: people who've never had accidential crisis. So I think by
Speaker 3: that point, like if it is kind of it is
Speaker 3: weirdly an honor to have like a terrifying existential crisis.
Speaker 3: I think it's something to push through and eventually be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back into the matrix and be learn
Speaker 3: learn how to accept that you'll never have answers to
Speaker 3: these terrifying questions and like that's fine and okay, and
Speaker 3: like just eat your sandwich and do your job and
Speaker 3: be okay, you know.
Speaker 2: Just eat your sandwich and just kind of.
Speaker 3: Eat your blooney sandwich and look at you know, watch
Speaker 3: a YouTube video and shut up. You know, it's fine,
Speaker 3: shut the fuck up, right, you know, but it's an
Speaker 3: honor that you ever got, and you I don't think
Speaker 3: you can ever fully silence whatever screaming part of your
Speaker 3: brain is is in touch with that, but it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's good to have had that at some point in
Speaker 3: your level before you you know, it's good to have.
Speaker 3: That's the is are Really, there's a higher being things
Speaker 3: that I sound kind of like a douche, but I
Speaker 3: I you.
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know anyway, think you're someone's but.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you cut out just now.
Speaker 2: Nobody thinks that you're a douche.
Speaker 3: What's your name again?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Tony the Tiger, your phone sucks and I
Speaker 3: can't I can't understand, but it's okay. I was going
Speaker 3: to end the phone call soon. Anyway. I like you,
Speaker 3: Tony the Tiger. You're You're a cool guy. I'm I'm
Speaker 3: I'm happy to live on the same planet as you.
Speaker 3: Uh right now, this is cool.
Speaker 2: Person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna try to win back. Where do you live? Like,
Speaker 3: you don't have to give me your address?
Speaker 2: No, where that you would ever come. It's a it's
Speaker 2: a big college campus, but in a state that you'd
Speaker 2: probably never come to.
Speaker 3: Well, try me what state?
Speaker 2: Arkansas?
Speaker 3: Uh? Where? What's the biggest city in Arkansas? Lafayette?
Speaker 2: To someone the other day, Now you talk to someone
Speaker 2: the other day who's from that town?
Speaker 3: What town? Little Rock?
Speaker 2: Like? No, what's the biggest college University of Arkansas. That's
Speaker 2: the big college here.
Speaker 3: Which city is that?
Speaker 2: Fayetteville?
Speaker 3: Fayetteville, Okay? Is there is that where you live?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in this in this area?
Speaker 3: Is it? What's it like?
Speaker 2: Dude? It's fucking awesome. There's tons of comedy clubs here.
Speaker 2: There's bars, and there's big concert venues and stuff. Bobby
Speaker 2: Lee came here to do a show. We had a
Speaker 2: bunch of comedians. Nate Bargetti came here.
Speaker 3: I would do a show in Fayetville, Arkansas. Well, I
Speaker 3: don't know if anyone would, if people would come, If
Speaker 3: I get like one hundred people, that could be fun.
Speaker 2: I mean it's forty thousand people of this campus, college campus,
Speaker 2: So all.
Speaker 3: Right, maybe what's the comedy club there?
Speaker 2: There's a bunch. There's JJ's Live. But then there's the
Speaker 2: Walmart Empathy here, which is like the big outdoor venue
Speaker 2: where Bobby Lee played.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I draw to play the Walmart
Speaker 3: amphitheater man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a JJ's Live is probably where you go.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of them. There's these big, big clubs
Speaker 2: where bands come and comedy people come.
Speaker 3: I'll try if you work at JJ's Live hit me
Speaker 3: up on Instagram.
Speaker 2: All right, man, Well that's talking to you, dude.
Speaker 3: Let's talking to you too, Tonny. Is there anything else
Speaker 3: you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 3: before we go?
Speaker 2: Just keep listening to therapy that go as long as
Speaker 2: he doesn't.
Speaker 3: God fucking bless you, Tony. Keep keep keep being I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you didn't. I'm glad you did something
Speaker 3: with your life. I'm very happy about that.
Speaker 2: It's good that you're a doctor and you as well, sir,
Speaker 2: have get care man.
Speaker 3: Bye bye. Hello, Hey, Hey, what's your name? My name
Speaker 3: is Mike, Mike. What's up, Mike? How you doing?
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm gonna at the gym at the moment,
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna taking a break right now.
Speaker 3: You're at the gym. What are we what are we
Speaker 3: working on? Is it a push day? A pull day?
Speaker 4: It's leg day?
Speaker 3: Leg Day? Respect for not skipping leg day. I'm a
Speaker 3: big leg day skipper.
Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, you should not skip leg day at all.
Speaker 3: Just real quick. I'm not on like a headset or
Speaker 3: anything like that, right.
Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to find the quietest part in this gym,
Speaker 4: and it's just like I think I'm gonna go there.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, Okay? How are you? How are
Speaker 3: your legs? How are your calves?
Speaker 4: Oh? I'm dying right now. I'm legit dying.
Speaker 3: Why are you legit dying?
Speaker 4: It kind of went a little hard on my lot today. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I did five forty on the squad.
Speaker 3: You did five five? I'm sorry you say five forty? Yeah,
Speaker 3: five hundred forty pounds? Yeah, So like, hold on, do
Speaker 3: you squat? Hold on? You squat five hundred and forty pounds?
Speaker 4: Yes, And like to give you like a picture of
Speaker 4: like what my body size is. I'm five eight and
Speaker 4: I'm less than one or forty five pounds at the moment.
Speaker 3: Bro, there's no way you squat five hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 3: That's like how many of you?
Speaker 4: About three? I think I'm not good at maths?
Speaker 3: Is that even physical? Is that? Is that physically possible?
Speaker 4: It is? It is physically possible as long as you
Speaker 4: conditionally train your your muscle to do it, and then
Speaker 4: you always up your your level every time you you, uh,
Speaker 4: you work out that muscle, then you'll get stronger.
Speaker 3: Do you What do your calves look like? Are you ripped?
Speaker 4: I'm getting ripped. Yeah, yeah, but my legs look way
Speaker 4: better than my upper half body right now, so like
Speaker 4: I'm getting my my ass back again at the moment.
Speaker 3: Did There's no fucking way you you're lying to me.
Speaker 3: You do not squat five hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 4: I'll see you a video later if you want.
Speaker 3: You know what, Yeah, actually, dude, send me a video
Speaker 3: of you squatting five hundred and forty pounds. Can you
Speaker 3: do it right now? Actually?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, do you want me to go back to
Speaker 4: the leg part of it? I'll do it.
Speaker 3: What do you mean the leg part of it?
Speaker 4: No, because I'm at the core part of the gym
Speaker 4: right now, so I have to walk to the.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Oh I thought you had a pre existing
Speaker 3: video of this.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, not yet, but I'll film one just
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 3: You squatted five hundred and forty pounds and you didn't
Speaker 3: even video it to show people.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not the show off kind of guy, though,
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not like literally like three quarters of
Speaker 4: people here in the gym, or are they like take
Speaker 4: selfies in the gym, or like you know, if you
Speaker 4: kidnap that if.
Speaker 3: You can squat five hundred and forty pounds. You get
Speaker 3: to take a video of it and brag about it.
Speaker 3: You that you get to do that, you earned the
Speaker 3: ability to do that. Is this a one rep? Is this?
Speaker 3: Is this a one rep max? Or are you doing
Speaker 3: multiple ramps?
Speaker 4: I do? I do? Uh? Uh? Ten reps? Uh ten
Speaker 4: ten rap, ten raps.
Speaker 3: Three sets, ten reps, three sets of five hundred and
Speaker 3: forty pounds. You're fucking lying to me.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I promise. I think you promise.
Speaker 3: What do you what do you bent?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: I'm venturing at two fifty at the moment.
Speaker 3: Two fifty? Yeah, dude, what do you look like?
Speaker 4: I'm okay?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Imagine Bruce Lee with long hair.
Speaker 3: You look like Bruce Lee with long hair.
Speaker 4: With really long hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Are you skary?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Are you skinny?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm slim fit. Yeah, I'm skinny.
Speaker 3: And how much did you say you weigh?
Speaker 4: I'm less than one hundred and forty five pounds at
Speaker 4: the moment.
Speaker 3: Shut the shut up, Shut the fuck up. You are less.
Speaker 3: Shut up, dude, you are lying to me. Why you
Speaker 3: like you learn less? You're less than one hundred and
Speaker 3: forty five pounds right now.
Speaker 4: I'm at five eight two five eight forty five pounds.
Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up. You do not bench two hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty pounds and squat five hundred pounds.
Speaker 4: I'll tak a video so you can be shocked for yourself.
Speaker 3: That's not even four. Like what, dude, You're fucking completely
Speaker 3: lying to me right now.
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not lying to you, Lyle.
Speaker 3: Not. How is that even physically possible?
Speaker 4: You just train? I've been training like since like last fall,
Speaker 4: I've been I've been uh sticking to my gym regiment
Speaker 4: since last fall, and I've gotten stronger since you've just
Speaker 4: seen me. Like last fall I was, I was like
Speaker 4: at one to fifty eight, and I somehow managed to
Speaker 4: lose weight during my journey of like uh working out
Speaker 4: like every time.
Speaker 3: Dude. Okay, yeah, I you know what. I don't even
Speaker 3: I was going to react to it on the podcast,
Speaker 3: But send me, send me these videos of you doing me.
Speaker 3: I just for my own personal I want to see
Speaker 3: you one hundred five eight one hundred and forty five
Speaker 3: pounds man squatting five hundred and forty pounds and benching
Speaker 3: two hundred fifty pounds looks like Cause I think, what
Speaker 3: do I bench, I bench like, let me check, I forget.
Speaker 3: There's no way. Do you take steroids?
Speaker 4: No? I don't. The most I do is uh is
Speaker 4: actually that energy drink that you drink Celsius?
Speaker 3: Oh celsius.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So now all right, how many how many celsiuses are
Speaker 3: you on? When you bench one hundred and whatever? Fucking put?
Speaker 3: When you bench one?
Speaker 4: I just do one?
Speaker 3: What do I bench? I'll bench like my max. I
Speaker 3: don't really like do the bench. I do like dumbbells.
Speaker 3: So my max with the dumbbells is like I'll do
Speaker 3: like two sixty pound dumbbells. That's like what one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty pounds?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's good. So do you do like max
Speaker 4: rap until you you equally can't do it and then
Speaker 4: you do another set and so you can't do.
Speaker 3: It again something like that. It depends if I'm like
Speaker 3: really into it, I'll like track all this shit. But
Speaker 3: lately it's just going to the gym has becomeing like
Speaker 3: more of a casual thing.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: I was really I it was really good at like
Speaker 3: doing it like without fail three times a week, and
Speaker 3: then I got and then I and then I had
Speaker 3: an existential crisis and I wondered what the point was.
Speaker 3: But now I'm back sort of, not really. I don't
Speaker 3: know why I.
Speaker 4: Said, hey, hey Low, uh, just so you know that
Speaker 4: a lot of people care about you, so like we
Speaker 4: look out for you.
Speaker 3: Well, thank thank you man, thank you. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: look out for you. You're going to kill yourself if you
Speaker 3: keep doing this.
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm not going to kill myself. I know
Speaker 4: my limit. So it's like if my body notes went
Speaker 4: to quit, I'll quit. I'm not gonna like push myself
Speaker 4: until like I pop at mc l or at L
Speaker 4: or something like that. Yeah, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, what's your name again, Mike, Mike.
Speaker 4: Low. We've actually met, and we've actually met in the
Speaker 4: Salt Lake Show before your last salt show. Yes, I
Speaker 4: brought my girlfriend with me and she was she was
Speaker 4: the girl that mentioned about the chocolate covered cinnamon gummy bear.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember that, but yeah, we
Speaker 4: shook your hand with a pictures and you made our night.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you. Oh that's really nice. That's
Speaker 3: really nice. And she mentioned the chocolate covered.
Speaker 4: Gummy gummy bear.
Speaker 3: You're not you're not eating that stuff.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm in a strict diet right now.
Speaker 3: What do you eat?
Speaker 4: Uh? So, I've been really boring with my with my
Speaker 4: meal meals lately. I've been just doing, like I alternate
Speaker 4: between like beef and chicken every other day with rice
Speaker 4: and then that's it.
Speaker 3: How long you've been doing that since last fall and
Speaker 3: you're and you have no desire to eat something like
Speaker 3: a chocolate covered cinnamon gummy bear. Uh.
Speaker 4: I do it at least like on the weekend sparingly,
Speaker 4: but most of the time. Yeah, I tried. I tried
Speaker 4: try to fight it. Remember like that, have you seen
Speaker 4: the movie, uh, Dodgeball, where like Ben Stiller almost got
Speaker 4: that because like he was trying to pry his urge
Speaker 4: to like eat the drumpstick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm like at that moment right now,
Speaker 4: but I'm yeah, my concentration is pretty good right now.
Speaker 3: Oh, help me solve this mystery. Okay, help me solve
Speaker 3: this mystery. I go to the Blink Fitness, and at
Speaker 3: the Blink Fitness they have for sale like these sour
Speaker 3: rainbow belts. Yeah, and I thought first I was looking
Speaker 3: at them, and I was like, are these like this
Speaker 3: is like protein candy, and it's not. It's just regular
Speaker 3: ass sour belts. Is there any reason whatsoever from a
Speaker 3: fitness perspective why you would want to eat that before
Speaker 3: working out?
Speaker 4: So I would not recommend you eating though us. I
Speaker 4: just do like the energy bars, any energy bars that's
Speaker 4: like a little over like twenty grams of protein, and
Speaker 4: then I would I would just eat that before the thing, yeah,
Speaker 4: because like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: The the question is is is is there a reason
Speaker 3: why they sell that other than for people who have
Speaker 3: given up on their way out of there?
Speaker 4: It's pure marketing. I think it's just like, oh look,
Speaker 4: oh you're at a gym. Oh look what else we're
Speaker 4: selling here? Because like they're selling like other like uh
Speaker 4: like weird stuff that you shouldn't be eating too. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because just like the gym that you just stated, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I have a membership at that particular gym too, and
Speaker 4: yeah they do that ship too.
Speaker 3: What's your take on bear Bell's protein bars.
Speaker 4: I actually love it. I highly recommend it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're awesome there, like, but here's my problem. I
Speaker 3: eat I think I Yeah, I eat one for breakfast
Speaker 3: every morning. I eat a Barebells protein bar that's that's good.
Speaker 3: That's good. That's good.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's good.
Speaker 3: But because I'm because because I'm eating it, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: this tastes like a candy bar. I'm I think I've
Speaker 3: convinced myself that eating a candy bar for breakfast every
Speaker 3: morning is somehow not unhealthy.
Speaker 4: Like there's got to be a cat no, no, uh,
Speaker 4: it's no. U. Just like if you just stick to
Speaker 4: like what you're doing right now, or you intermittently go
Speaker 4: to the gym when you feel like it, and then
Speaker 4: you're still eating that in the morning, Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: you'll still be fine. But like from like the sound
Speaker 4: of like your previous episodes, you're just physically active every day.
Speaker 4: I think you'll Yeah, you'll be fine.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm listening to you. You're lying
Speaker 3: to me about fucking benching.
Speaker 2: You're lying.
Speaker 4: I'm not You're gonna get You're gonna get your video tomorrow.
Speaker 3: What's your name again, Mike? Mike? I like you, my
Speaker 3: You're cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're cool. Guys.
Speaker 3: Everyone I talked to on the podcast today was was
Speaker 3: I enjoyed talking to?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I agree, especially that that lady that you
Speaker 4: talked in the first half of this episode. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: sortally enjoyed that part of the episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was cool. What else? What else? We got it?
Speaker 3: Let's we can keep going for however long we want.
Speaker 3: There's no thing, there's no yeah, go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 4: Okay, So, uh what else? Oh and then there's another
Speaker 4: thing I want to talk about? Okay? Yeah, so, uh
Speaker 4: so my act still pays for my uh my subscription
Speaker 4: on like premium channels like Max and Paramount, And I
Speaker 4: still don't have the heart to like tell her that
Speaker 4: I'm still using those accounts that she paid for.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna label that as
Speaker 3: a victimless crime.
Speaker 4: Oh really, well I love that.
Speaker 3: Well, look, dude, I mean it's not it doesn't take away.
Speaker 3: It's not like she it's not like she. Are you
Speaker 3: at like the max amount of accounts that can be
Speaker 3: added to the thing?
Speaker 4: Uh yes?
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah?
Speaker 4: Like yeah, like my name is still on the account
Speaker 4: like for this said use their name for all like
Speaker 4: the Prime Video, the Paramount plus match Netflix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, her new her new guy is gonna be
Speaker 3: like who the fuck is.
Speaker 4: Matt right exactly?
Speaker 3: What's your what's your icon on it? Uh?
Speaker 4: An alien like for one of them, and then like
Speaker 4: I have the main guy from the Last of Us
Speaker 4: from like Max, and like I have a random puppy
Speaker 4: for my paramount.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna, I think gets I think. You know what, Look,
Speaker 3: here's the thing. If you want to be Jesus Christ,
Speaker 3: right and some some people, uh, if you want to
Speaker 3: be the like like Ned Flanders, like I commit. You know,
Speaker 3: if you want to be a man of like complete, utter, unflinching,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent nobility, then yeah, then you could take
Speaker 3: yourself off of the HBO Max subscription. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I I don't know if you're got nobody gets to
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. If you're if you were gutting for
Speaker 3: one hundred percent no noble Jesus Christ, run of life,
Speaker 3: then you would take you would take it off. But
Speaker 3: nobody gets nobody does a hundred.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's kind of yeah,
Speaker 4: because like every now and then, like uh, I would
Speaker 4: like switch user names on these asset apps, and I
Speaker 4: would and I would notice like someone's been like watching
Speaker 4: like different stuff and I on my part of the
Speaker 4: channel too. I was like that's weird. I was like,
Speaker 4: I haven't seen h Gilmore girls in a long time.
Speaker 4: I was like, I've never seen that shawe.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the heck?
Speaker 4: I was like, why are they watching it on my account?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And then the weird part is like we split up
Speaker 4: like almost two and a half years ago.
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh it's been two and a half years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well yeah, let her let her kick you off?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, who who?
Speaker 3: Who broke it off? She did?
Speaker 1: She did?
Speaker 3: Is that part of what inspired you to train to
Speaker 3: uh squat four of you?
Speaker 4: Actually? Yeah, I just yeah, I was like not in
Speaker 4: a good shape when we broke up, and then now
Speaker 4: I'm in a better shape, Like I feel I like
Speaker 4: this version of me versus the version of me two
Speaker 4: and a half years ago.
Speaker 3: Wait, so was that was that? This is not the
Speaker 3: same woman that I met in Salt Lake City?
Speaker 4: No, No, that was my new girlfriend?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well yeah your ex girlfriend? Fucking she definitely
Speaker 3: she definitely sold low on that shack.
Speaker 4: Oh definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And then yeah she's still Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's still working a pretty bad job. So I'm kind
Speaker 4: of happy that I'm in a better place now than
Speaker 4: she is now.
Speaker 3: I don't believe you at all. I don't believe for
Speaker 3: a second. Then you know I don't, and you know
Speaker 3: what the thing is. I guess, Yeah, next, I guess
Speaker 3: on the next podcast. I'll have to mention at some
Speaker 3: point whether or not because I'm expecting you to send
Speaker 3: me these videos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're getting one tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I mean I don't I yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I'll try to remember to check the phone line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll send it to your Instagram page.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, do that, I check that more.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'll do that, all right, Matt.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 3: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Uh, pigeons aren't real.
Speaker 3: You're telling me I can eat a bare Bells protein
Speaker 3: bar and drink of Celsius every day for the rest
Speaker 3: of my life and it's not unhealthy.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's track.
Speaker 3: Please let me look you go ahead, go ahead, you look.
Speaker 4: You look better now than you did when I first
Speaker 4: started watching you. So well, you're doing something good in
Speaker 4: your life.
Speaker 3: Well hold on, Well, I I lost weight and I'm
Speaker 3: continuing to lose well, I'm I'm I fell off a
Speaker 3: lot of my habits, but I did lose weight. But
Speaker 3: even though I lost weight, I don't know if that's
Speaker 3: I don't know if losing weight is the same as
Speaker 3: being healthy because you can eat only twinkies for a
Speaker 3: month and you will lose weight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there's there's so So the thing with weight
Speaker 4: loss is just like it's literally what you do on
Speaker 4: top of it. It's what's very beneficial for you. Like
Speaker 4: even if you don't think you you don't feel like
Speaker 4: you're progressing in your in your physical house right now,
Speaker 4: but like if everyone can notice that you like physically
Speaker 4: changed and you're doing something good about your your physical
Speaker 4: workout right now.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna only eat cosmic brownies for a month.
Speaker 3: Those are so you know how many fuck guess many
Speaker 3: fucking calories is in a cosmic brownie?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 4: Uh isn't it like uh like fifteen hundred?
Speaker 3: It's like five fifteen hundred. That's crazy? Is what is
Speaker 3: up with you and your numbers? You have aut landish?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I just my my brain is full
Speaker 4: of like useless sacks. So it's just like it's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm crazy like that with numbers.
Speaker 3: Five hundred and ten, Dude. Five isn't that fucking bullshit?
Speaker 3: Five hundred and ten calories for a for for for
Speaker 3: you know, ten seconds of joy?
Speaker 4: Man, you eat it that quick? That's crazy.
Speaker 3: I've never tied myself. But all right, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: You send me a picture of you doing a five
Speaker 3: hundred and forty pounds squat in a two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty pound bench, and I'll send you a video of
Speaker 3: me eating a five hundred and ten calorie cosmic brownie. Deal, Matt,
Speaker 3: is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 3: people the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Be kind? H justick care of yourself and I'm glad
Speaker 4: you're doing better now.
Speaker 3: Thank you, man, Good luck, God bless you your beautiful soul.
Speaker 3: I'm around this. I'll see you around the universe. God,
Speaker 3: good there's I'm you. Hold on, I'm gonna keep you. Okay.
Speaker 3: First of all, First of all, first of all, I
Speaker 3: didn't mean. First of all, whenever I say God bless
Speaker 3: you to someone, I don't mean like the Christian God. Okay,
Speaker 3: even if I did, that's an asshole thing to say
Speaker 3: to someone when they say God bless you. It's an
Speaker 3: asshole thing to say to someone when they say God
Speaker 3: bless you. I don't believe it because when someone says God,
Speaker 3: bless you. They're trying to be nice, They're trying to
Speaker 3: they just they really just mean have a good day.
Speaker 3: And then when you say I don't believe in God,
Speaker 3: you kind of be an asshole. But I also I
Speaker 3: don't really, I don't mean, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: I don't believe in God. I don't believe in like
Speaker 3: Christian God either. I believe in like higher power ship.
Speaker 3: I think you can mar yeah, yeah, but like that's
Speaker 3: what God. Yeah, but but but that's what God means,
Speaker 3: you know, it just means higher power. It doesn't necessarily
Speaker 3: mean like the God that you grew up with when
Speaker 3: you were going to church and ship. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so what so may the higher may, whatever controls the
Speaker 3: flow of the universe be that, even not a higher power,
Speaker 3: be that even you. May whatever that force is, even
Speaker 3: if that force is literally you and your brain and
Speaker 3: your actions, you being God, May God bless you, May
Speaker 3: you bless you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Well, is this what it feels like being blessed by
Speaker 4: the gekker right now? Do you believe I do believe
Speaker 4: in the Gecko?
Speaker 3: I just that because I've been saying God bless you
Speaker 3: to people, and I don't know why, but that's what
Speaker 3: I mean when I say it, I think when it
Speaker 3: comes out of my.
Speaker 4: Ask you about that. I've always wanted to ask you
Speaker 4: about that. It's just like, I don't know if he's
Speaker 4: like real because I know you're Jewish. So it's just like.
Speaker 3: I grew up I culturally, I grew up culturally Jewish,
Speaker 3: but I don't like, I don't like, I don't know
Speaker 3: what the toll rest. I don't even think, but I
Speaker 3: don't think most Jews know what like it doesn't Judaism
Speaker 3: has no effect on my spiritual views of life in
Speaker 3: the universe. It's just you know, I like, I like
Speaker 3: eating matza.
Speaker 4: I haven't had matsa in a long time.
Speaker 3: But no, I don't mean like a Christian. I don't
Speaker 3: mean like a Christian. I don't mean like a Christian
Speaker 3: made Jesus Christ as we understand that to be. You know,
Speaker 3: it just means, you know, whatever I guess I explained it. Well,
Speaker 3: it's just a higher power. That's not even when I
Speaker 3: you know what, you know what it really is. Actually
Speaker 3: it's not even any of that stuff. It's just you
Speaker 3: know what it really is. I just needed something to say. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's what it really is. It just means by it
Speaker 3: just it just makes It's just words. It means nothing.
Speaker 3: It doesn't even mean any of the stuff I said
Speaker 3: about you being God. It's just saying more words because
Speaker 3: we're in a conversation, and when you're in a conversation,
Speaker 3: you have to say words for there to be a conversation.
Speaker 3: That's what it means when I say cared bless you.
Speaker 4: So yeah, if you put down a T shirt, I'd
Speaker 4: totally buy it.
Speaker 3: Matt God bless you. Send me that video of you
Speaker 3: lifting one hundred and whatever pounds and I may never
Speaker 3: talk to you ever again. But if that is the case,
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the period of time that we did get
Speaker 3: to talk.
Speaker 4: I I I concur have a good name Matte that.
Speaker 3: I liked Matt, that was cool. I liked everyone we
Speaker 3: talked to today. What a great episode of the podcast.
Speaker 3: Thank you to everyone who listens to this. This is
Speaker 3: a fun episode of the podcast. Sometimes sometimes we just
Speaker 3: do an episode and I'm like, wow, I felt great.
Speaker 3: The correlation is always it's always about how much caffeine
Speaker 3: I induce I ingested before recording. It makes me feel
Speaker 3: like myself, like chemically. I know it's not. It feels
Speaker 3: weird to like need a substance to be yourself, but
Speaker 3: I really do feel like myself. I felt I loved
Speaker 3: the version of myself that I was for the entire
Speaker 3: duration of this episode. And the reason for that is
Speaker 3: because I drank a diet Mountain Dew, which has ninety
Speaker 3: one milligrams of caffeine. I could keep talking. Sometimes by
Speaker 3: the end of doing this, like I'm exhausted and I
Speaker 3: lie on the floor. But today I'm like, I could
Speaker 3: just keep talking. I feel good. This was nice. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna cut my line. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: quit while we're hot. Thank you for listening to the
Speaker 3: Therapy Echo podcast. I really mean it. I'm honored. Thanks
Speaker 3: for sitting through the ads or skipping through them. Thanks
Speaker 3: for dealing with it, Thanks for listening, Thanks for commenting.
Speaker 3: If you comment, I read all the Spotify and the
Speaker 3: YouTube comments because I'm crazy. This was nice, this was good.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed doing this. This was this was this was
Speaker 3: this felt fun to do, and I felt honored to
Speaker 3: be able to do it today. So thank you for listening.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go calm down. I need to calm down.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go calm down. God bless you. I guess
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck I mean when I say that, I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I got to clear that up. And uh, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go eat something. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go eat
Speaker 3: a fucking sandwich and watch TV and feel honored. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go eat a sandwich and watch a YouTube video
Speaker 3: about Luigi and about like ten Luigi facts or whatever
Speaker 3: the fuck, and I'm gonna feel honored that I get
Speaker 3: to live today to do that, all right. Gecko out
Speaker 3: goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.
Speaker 5: Never Beacon goes to his ride.
Speaker 1: He's teaching you
Speaker 2: A loud in them of your life, but he's not
Speaker 2: really an expert.