1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: All from Maddie. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: Hello, can you hear me? Yeah? 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 3: Hey, what's your name, Maddie, Maddie, what's up, Maddie? What's up? 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: What's going on with you? You know? 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Nothing much? I uh, I'm just eating some pizza right now. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: That sounds psychedelic. That sounds psychedelic eating pizza. You know. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm sad. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: I just I just can't. This is just crazy, but continue. Sorry. 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, it's really about the simple 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: things in life. Is eating pizza is so great? I 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: talk a lot on here about like my own like 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: food bullshit, and I've been thinking about this. Tell me, 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: tell me what you think, Maddie is I can't decide 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: if I'm happier when I'm not eating like shit or 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: when I'm eating like shit, because something like there's just 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: an acute happiness that I feel when I eat a 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: giant cheese steak and fries and watch YouTube, and it's 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: I don't there is like one could say a greater 19 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: amount of contentment in living a healthy lifestyle, but I 20 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: don't know. There's it's probably a balance. There's probably a 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: way to balance it, because once you eat like shit 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: for too long, the effects diminished but god, I did 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: nothing fucking matches it. I like, like sex or drugs 24 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: or what like. I've had no dopamine high quite like 25 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: eating an entire pint of peanut butter s'mores, Ben and Jerry's. 26 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: I really and and to deprive myself of that feels 27 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: like it makes life less worth living. But also to 28 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: indulge too heavily to the point where it's not even 29 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: enjoyable anymore. It's also so I don't know. There's all 30 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: I find a great joy and exercise, Like I like 31 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: lifting weights, I love walking, I love exercising, but I 32 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: don't like eating a salad gives me no joy. I 33 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: don't know. 34 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: What do you? 35 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: What do you think, Maddie? 36 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I've like been having this similar issue because I'm 37 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: like a good eater, you know, and I don't know 38 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: I've been I've been trying to like be more healthy, 39 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: but like I will literally like do the mill prep thing. 40 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: It takes fucking forever, and then I could sit there 41 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: and like eat it all I feel like, and it's 42 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: because it's healthy, and then I'm like not even full, 43 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: I feel like, but also part of it is definitely 44 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: just sugar, and it's like another I don't know, it's 45 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: another money spending thing in this capitalistic world. You know, 46 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: not to sound like that, but sugar is addicting as fuck, 47 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: and fast food just the ease that it provides, I guess, 48 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I've been struggling. I'm like sitting 49 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: at I'm sitting here looking at this pizza and I've 50 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: eaten one piece and I could easily eat the whole 51 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: thing probably, but I'm not gonna do it because it's summertime. 52 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: I need I need that summer body, so I'm just 53 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: gonna look at it. 54 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: What are your plans for the summertime? Do you have 55 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: anything exciting happening? 56 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: You know? I, well, I'm broke, so I'm gonna do 57 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: the best I can. But I'm actually I'm going to 58 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: LA next week, so I think that'll be fine. I 59 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: got a friend to pay for my plane ticket, which 60 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: was pretty baller, so yeah, I'm just gonna hang out 61 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: there for a few days. I'm moving this summer, so 62 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: that should be fun too. But yeah, kind of on 63 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: a budget, so not much besides just working and saving money. 64 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: Honestly, Uh, your friend did your friend pay for your 65 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: plane ticket out of the kindness of their heart or 66 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: was there were there strings attached? 67 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Well, there's no strings attached. Her mom is a flight 68 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: or she used to be a flight attendant, so they 69 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: get some weird like ticket perks now, which I'm super 70 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: jealous of. But I guess I'm in on it now. 71 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: So hmm, well, Mattie, let me ask you this, is 72 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: there anything in particular that you called in to want 73 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: to talk about? 74 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: You know, not really, I didn't really think you'd answer, 75 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Last stream I was calling 76 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: as well because I was on a little road trip 77 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: driving back home, and you always talk about how do 78 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: like you romanticize things in your life, and I was 79 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: like definitely having that moment home, like listening to sad music, 80 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: and then I saw you like get on the stream 81 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: or whatever, so I was like, damn, like I need 82 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: to talk to him about this. But you know, now 83 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm already I'm already back in my current home, so 84 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: that romantic feeling is gone. But I know. 85 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: It's an interesting thing, romanticizing your life. I think about it. 86 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: I've been thinking about it recently because there's parts of 87 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: my life that I romanticize, like when I'm traveling or 88 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: doing grand things, or talking with my parents or or 89 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: with friends, or there's parts of my life that I 90 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: certainly romanticize, and some of them are like inherently romantic, 91 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: like traveling and whatnot. But I think the idea of 92 00:05:54,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: living a holy romantic life or every second of it 93 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: is romantic, that there's something exhausting to that, you know 94 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: what I mean? Like I like like almost like oh 95 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: it never, you gotta you gotta give yourself some time 96 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: to breathe, you gotta get cause that's that's why eating 97 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: the cheese steak in front of my TV watch like 98 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: eating the cheese steak and fries in front of my TV, 99 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: I want there is nothing romantic about that at all, 100 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: and I wouldn't dare attempt to make it romantic because 101 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: when everything's romantic, it's so grand and lofty and sometimes 102 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: just sometimes you just want to fucking be a normal ass, 103 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: like just live in normal fucking whatever bullshit life, which. 104 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: Is eating And how are you supposed to do that? Though? 105 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: How how do you be normal? Do you know? 106 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 3: You just eat a sandwich and watch TV. It's the 107 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: most it's the least romantic thing you could do but 108 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: be But I try to be in the moment of it, 109 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: and I go, I am so fuck I actually, I 110 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: actually I actively de romanticize it. I ate it last night. 111 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: I ate a cheese steak and fries, and I thought 112 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: to myself, there is nowhere else on the planet and 113 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: nothing else I would rather be doing at this exact moment. 114 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: I am honored. You know what, I know, what I'm 115 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: thinking about right now is I'm actually I'm talking a 116 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: lot of bullshit. I actually completely romanticized eating a sandwich. 117 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: I literally, yeah, like the most normal, Like it's so 118 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: normal of you. 119 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: I thought myself. I thought to myself, I cause I 120 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: sat down and I'm trying not to feel guilty about 121 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: like whatever. But I mean some some things you are 122 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: you should feel guilty about, like you know, being addicted 123 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: to the fucking Instagram all day or whatever. But I 124 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: was eating this cheese steak and watching TV, and I 125 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: literally said to myself, I am honored to sit here 126 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: and eat this and watch a YouTube video about defective 127 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: Sonic plushies or whatever the fuck bullshit I'm watching. This 128 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: is a great I'm I'm so happy to be doing 129 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: this right now, which I think actually is romanticizing it. 130 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: So I'm wrong. I do romanticize eating a sandwich. 131 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's hard. It's hard to catch yourself doing 132 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: something normal and then not being like, oh, I'm doing it. 133 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: Look I'm doing it, and then once you notice you're 134 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: doing it, it's not really normal anymore. In my opinion, 135 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that's the first steps. Because I'm 136 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 1: a human. 137 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm back. I'm always back and forth between like, oh, 138 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: life is this infinitesimal, crazy event that I'm experiencing in 139 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: the middle of two walls of a Blacklivian that are 140 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: all the time before I was born and all the 141 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: time after I die, And I should spend this little 142 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: speck of time in oblivion doing like be trying to 143 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: be amazing and romantic all the time, you know, But 144 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: it's too much to ask. It's too much to ask 145 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: to do it. 146 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I do. I have this issue where I like, well, 147 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: I guess it's romanticizing. I set myself up like I'm 148 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: in a movie or something, and that might sound like 149 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: so selfish and like, oh my. 150 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: God, hold on, hold on, hell I can I stop? 151 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: Can I stop? Can I stop you real quick? Because immediately, yes, 152 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm curious you immediately went negative with what you're saying. 153 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: You immediately said it was a problem, and you said 154 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 3: it was selfish. Why do you feel it is either 155 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: of those things inherently? Why did you? 156 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: Well? 157 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I think it's just like you, like 158 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: us as individual humans, would like to think the things 159 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: around you are happening because of you or for you, 160 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: but like, obviously it's not. You know, it's just like 161 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: the world and randomness, and I like will inherently be like, 162 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: oh this this was a sign or something or when 163 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: it really was just like something random that happened. I 164 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: can't even think of an example, honestly, but like I 165 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: will sit there and like, I guess it's not even 166 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: like jumping to conclusions, but just kind of you imagine 167 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: things in my mind. I guess I don't know. 168 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think. I don't think that's inherently bad. 169 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: You're basically what you're doing is you're take like life 170 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: is chaotic and random and has no narrative or order 171 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: to it, but and you are choosing to take this 172 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: chaos and craft a narrative from it. So I mean 173 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: that's what you're doing. You're crafting a narrative and I 174 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: guess if you want to be a nihilist, you could 175 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: say that the narrative you're crafting, yes, is built on 176 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: a foundation of you know, chaos and inherent meaninglessness. But 177 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: I think it's good to craft a narrative. I don't 178 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: think it's selfish. I think it's it's it's something to 179 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: cling to. You know, you're you're you're creating something to 180 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: cling to within the chaos. And I this is gonna 181 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: sound like woo woo, but it's kind of amazing that 182 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: as human beings we have we can do that. You know, 183 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: that's like a weird, like godly gift to create your 184 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: own narrative from this chaos. So I don't think it's selfish. 185 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 3: I think it's like it's you're like tapping into your 186 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: higher existence when you as your own narrative. I mean, 187 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: as long as you're not as long as you're not like, 188 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, being if I don't know, I'm trying 189 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: to think of an example, like, as long as you 190 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: don't think every single thing is about you all the 191 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: time and just being like a fucking asshole. 192 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I'm an asshole at this point, 193 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: but maybe one day I'll become one. 194 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: I think. 195 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: I feel like people get a little bit more assholey 196 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: as they get older. I haven't met many people that 197 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: are like, oh, I was such an asshole back then 198 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: and now I'm better. Like I feel like it was 199 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: like it's the other way around for most people. 200 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: Why do you why do you think people get become 201 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: assholes as they get older? 202 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: Oh? 203 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: Man, I don't know. 204 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: I feel like it's just like it's it's more of 205 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: like a've been there, done that sort of situation. It's 206 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: you've been through more, and it's kind of it's easier 207 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: to like jump to conclusions. I feel like it's like 208 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: the same reason why like like my grandparents are I 209 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know, it's like they I guess they're just like 210 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: less accepting of things, whereas I'm like, why would you 211 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: really care about something that doesn't even affect you? 212 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: You know. 213 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: But also I've you know, I've met some people that 214 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: have like really cleaned up and like have been on 215 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: a non asshole journey. I guess, But I don't know. 216 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: I just feel like that's kind of the way it goes. 217 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: It's always and anytime I see I've probably said this 218 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: on the podcast before. But anytime I see like a 219 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: you know, when you see like an like an elderly 220 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: person like yelling at a customer service person and you're 221 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: every time I see that, I'm like, dude, you had 222 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: eighty fucking years to figure this out? How are you 223 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: still at? Like you're at like level zero of consciousness 224 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: right now when you're doing that right you're and how 225 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: did you get How are you at? 226 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: Like? 227 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 3: How are you eighty fucking years old and you're at 228 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: like level zero still? It's crazy? 229 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. I'm a cashier at the moment, and 230 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: I literally sell T shirts and I deal with that 231 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: every single day. Like someone will walk in and dislike 232 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: something about a T shirt and then like stand there 233 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: and argue with me like they're like I'm holding them hostage, 234 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: and like there have been multiple times where I have 235 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: to be like you can leave. You know, I'm not 236 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: asking you to buy anything, but uh, I don't know. People, 237 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of a power move, I feel like for 238 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: some of those old people, but it's it's also like, 239 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even just old people that I 240 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: run into, Like it could be anyone and you never 241 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: know who it's gonna be either, it's kind of crazy. 242 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't understand. Like, I don't know. I've I've had 243 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: a I've worked customer service like pretty much my whole life, 244 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: I feel like, but I've never been like in a 245 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: situation where I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm so excited to 246 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: bitch at this worker right now, Like that's what I'm 247 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna do when I walk in. 248 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know. 249 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't know where that comes from. 250 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: It probably comes from like they don't I assume that 251 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: they don't have a lot, or like that all their 252 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: friends and family are like dead, or like they don't 253 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: have I don't know. I don't know how people end 254 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: up like that. I really don't. I mean, also, we 255 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: grew up differently because we we exist at this weird 256 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: turning point in society. 257 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, this is definitely a weird time. I 258 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: don't even want to get into that, honestly. Yeah, all 259 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: anyone talks about you know what I mean, And that's 260 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: all I That's all I talk about at work too. 261 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, the economy, and I'm like, yeah, I 262 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: don't even Yeah, I have like no money saved. That's 263 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: all I have to say. Like, that's all I got 264 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: to add to that. 265 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: I guess I was talking less about the economy more 266 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: about just like technology in general. 267 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Uh, yes, yeah, I'm. 268 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: Right, You're right, we don't have I mean, if you 269 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: had something you wanted to say about that, you can 270 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: say it. 271 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: No, I mean honestly, So I guess, like a little 272 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: context into my life. I just graduated college with a 273 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: communications degree because I ran out of time to figure 274 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: out what I actually wanted to do and money. So 275 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: I was like, let me just get something out of this, 276 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: you know. And my whole little background was film production, 277 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: but I somehow made it through without ever figuring out 278 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: how to use a camera or like all this very 279 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: important stuff. So now I'm like out here in the 280 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: real world being like, yeah, I like film production, and 281 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, yeah, I don't use a camera. 282 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know how to edit, you know, 283 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: and like this is stuff that I could easily teach 284 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: myself how to do, and for some reason it's like 285 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, I just don't feel like it. 286 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: But I also like don't know what I like. And 287 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of where I am right now, 288 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: and especially with technology, like like there's all these things 289 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: that people are like, oh, you need to know how 290 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: to do this and that. Like the amount of times 291 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: someone told me to make a fucking LinkedIn account, I'm like, dude, 292 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: why can't I just like sell apples or something. 293 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 3: Well a few things to that is uh I I yeah, 294 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: I talk about this a lot. I also went to 295 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: film school, and yeah, they make you watch old movies 296 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 3: and they don't actually teach you anything. 297 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: No, I wasted my money and my teachers they didn't 298 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: really not to throw them under the bus because I 299 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: had a good time, but like they didn't know how 300 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: to do anything either, because I feel like that's kind 301 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: of like an ever changing industry, you know, And they're 302 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: all like pretty old. 303 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, they're they're they the film school. I'm 304 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: just I'm god, I've been on this rent eight thousand times, 305 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: but yeah, the film school track is like the people 306 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: who like teach at film school usually are like they'll 307 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: be like, yeah, I've been working on the same documentary 308 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: for seven years and we're going to try to get 309 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: a grant for and it's just they're just in a 310 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: universe that is not the universe of that media is 311 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 3: actually consumed in. But anyway, so why why do you 312 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 3: just want to sell apples? Why can't you sell apples? 313 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I could, but like then, I 314 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: also have this thing where like I obviously want to 315 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: be like comfortable one day, you know, and like not 316 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: having this. I feel like if you sell apples, you 317 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: just sell You have to sell apples for the rest 318 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: of your life to survive. And I don't want to 319 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: be old selling apples. Interesting, what do you But I 320 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: would like to I would like to be young and 321 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: sell apples like right now, okay. 322 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 3: Well what do you why not? I guess I don't. 323 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: I don't see why you How old are you now? 324 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: Are you twenty two? 325 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm twenty three? 326 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking go sell apples? Why not? 327 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe I will. I guess. It's more of the 328 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of this. I was actually talking to my 329 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: coworker about this today, the feeling of like, oh shit, 330 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: like I am gonna be like I'm gonna be like 331 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: a middle aged person one day, like hopefully, you know, 332 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: And that's like a that's that's kind of new to me, 333 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: I guess, because I don't know. I was like really 334 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: fucking around up until like right now, like this year 335 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: pretty much and now like not to get all like 336 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: existential I feel like, but it's just like damn, like 337 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: this shit is real, you know, yeah, and like I 338 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: can't just like I guess I could go home, but 339 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: I that's not that's not the plane at all. 340 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: You know, Yes, I know what you mean. I remember. 341 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: I think it was twenty nineteen. I had my Yeah, 342 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: when I was in twenty nineteen, I had my existential 343 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: crisis of like, oh shit, this is real and I'm 344 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: going to have to make money and have like a job, 345 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: like have a job and figure out life. I think 346 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: I was twenty twenty one, and you know, up until then, 347 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: it's like I had just been I was in high 348 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: school and I was making movies and doing stand up 349 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: and then I went to film school, which, as you know, 350 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: is nothing. And then I had a like I know, 351 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: I was like you and I was like, oh, I've 352 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: just been like fucking around and kind of getting to 353 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: do whatever I want for twenty one fucking years and 354 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna graduate soon and it's gonna get real. And 355 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: then I just I mean, I just got really lucky. 356 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: And now I'm now I now I do a podcast. 357 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, how is that? How's that going for you? 358 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: Do you like it? Or is there something else that 359 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: are you? Like, A damn it, now I have to 360 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: do this fucking podcast again. 361 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: In this very moment, I'm enjoying our conversation. I think 362 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: it's because I'm on a little bit of caffeine, and 363 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 3: it's also it's you're an easy person. I think you're 364 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: an easy person to to talk to. I like because 365 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: some you know, I like, I appreciate callers who will 366 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: let me just go on really long rants an interrut. 367 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't even think you were gonna I 368 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna get on. So I'm like 369 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: not prepared at all. 370 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay, that's okay. There's nothing to prepare for. 371 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: That's the guys, and there's other things I want to do. 372 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: But I'm enjoying. I mean, it's nice. It's nice to 373 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: get to talk to so many people. You know, it's 374 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: been it's been great. Before this, my plan, I had 375 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 3: a plan though. My plan was that I was going 376 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 3: to I had been like helping like some of my 377 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: dad's friends with like doing video, like helping them they 378 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: ran like they're own, like law firms, and so I 379 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: was helping them like make their make YouTube videos on 380 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: Facebook videos to promote their law firms. And so that 381 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: that was my plan. My plan was I was going 382 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: to be like a social media manager for like dentists 383 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: and lawyers and uh like small businesses, and I was 384 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: gonna The plan was I was going to do that 385 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: to make money and then on the side, uh, make 386 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: my own videos and stuff. 387 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of my plan right now. Honestly, I'm 388 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: just like praying I can get a social media type 389 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: job at least to say, I use my degree for 390 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: a few years and then maybe I'll like magically figure 391 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: out what I'm am like actually super into. 392 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 3: I mean you want to you want to pick what? 393 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 3: What would you say? You want to sell apples? Is 394 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: that like a are you being specific? Or is that 395 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: a is that is does sell apples? Is that a 396 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: broad way of saying do something simple? And you know real? 397 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: You know I It's it's more of just like a 398 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: like a space filler, I guess, because like my my 399 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: biggest problem is that I really I have like this 400 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: sounds so depressing, but I have no passions. I feel 401 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: like like my when you were sitting there talking about 402 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: like literally just eating and watching YouTube. I've seriously considered. 403 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, should I do muck thangs? Like should I 404 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: get famous for like being a fat ass or something? 405 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: But like selling apples is just like a you know, 406 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: like my just my blank spot for trying to figure 407 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: out like what the fuck I actually want to do, 408 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: because right now I sell T shirts and I'm like, 409 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: if I was getting paid like ten more dollars an hour, 410 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: I really like this would be fine, you know what 411 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's like kind of I don't know. 412 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: I want to be like, oh, like let me aspire 413 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: to be something great. But like also like if I'm 414 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: making money and doing an easy job, like I feel 415 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: like I cannot complain, you know what I mean. 416 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I know exactly what you mean. I've been 417 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: thinking about that a lot. I genuinely have. I've been 418 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: thinking a lot about like, you know, I mean, there's 419 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: infinite different ways to live life, and you don't and 420 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: you can actually even kind of weave in and out 421 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: of phases of your life where where like at some. 422 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: I guess. 423 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 424 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: The thing I've been thinking about is like is it 425 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: okay to just fucking live or do you always have 426 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: to be like you're talking about, like striving to be 427 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: great and striving to do be amazing. You know, it's 428 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: a lot of pressure. 429 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: And I do I think it's I think it's totally 430 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: fine to like have a humble living and like live 431 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, but I guess I guess kind of 432 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm always on the Instagrams and 433 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: the whatevers, and it's just like you see these people 434 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: doing like insanely crazy things, like in your face all 435 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: fucking day, and it's like, god damn it. Like I'm 436 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: sitting here like hitting my vapes in the back of 437 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: this tea shop. 438 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: Dude, our fucking brains are not We're not meant to 439 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: be I really do I really feel you on on 440 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: all these things that you're talking about. They're all things 441 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: I've been thinking about because I'm also on Instagram seeing 442 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: people do cool things, and I'm like, gosh, should be 443 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: doing more cool things. You know, our brain, our fucking 444 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: brains are not meant to be doing this shit like 445 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: we were. We were supposed to like live our own 446 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 3: lives and because we had no other reference point, just 447 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 3: be like, oh, the best thing you could do with 448 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: your life is dig holes in the dirt for eighty years. 449 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: And in some ways some in some ways it's a 450 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 3: negative that we're exposed to fucking literally everything all the time, 451 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: and then in some ways it's positive because it could 452 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: be you know, inspiring to do Yeah, you know, in 453 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 3: some way, I guess it. I guess with a lot 454 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 3: of shit. It just kind of depends on how you 455 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: look at it. Well, okay, so when when you're having 456 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: everything shoved in your face on the computer, are there 457 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: things in particular that jump out at you where you're like, oh, 458 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: I wish I was uh surfing or I don't whatever 459 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: it is, you know. 460 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: I so I like I like to watch the like 461 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: travel vlogs or whatever. But also another weird thing is 462 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: that like like when given the opportunity to like leave 463 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: the country or like, you know, I had all these 464 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: like study abroad opportunities in college, like I'm just like, no, 465 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't have a passport, Like I've 466 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: never left the country, and like I also don't have 467 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: like a dying urge to do so. And I'm like 468 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: is that weird? Because everyone's like like, oh, you don't 469 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: want to go on this little trip with me to 470 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: this other country, and I'm like, look like, I don't know. 471 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: I feel like I I find some comfort in sitting 472 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: there and just like watching other people do shit. But 473 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: then like every now and then I'll be like, oh 474 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: my god, like at least just like get up and 475 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: open a window or some shit, you know, like feel 476 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: feel some real error on you, Like you don't have 477 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: to like go hop on a plane right now, but 478 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: like figure something out. 479 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 480 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's easier to get down on yourself 481 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: when when all of that is happening, it's just like 482 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: where should I even start? I guess, well. 483 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: That I don't know. I mean, is it just like 484 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: a sense of like all feeling guilty because you're not 485 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: doing enough? Or is it like, oh I actively I 486 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: mean you know it's something you don't actively want to 487 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: do any of that. 488 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's more like should I feel like 489 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: I want to be doing this for everyone else is? 490 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: But like I wouldn't even know that everyone else is 491 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: if I wasn't, so just like on my phone, know 492 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, it's really that damn phone. 493 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: Like, but well, here's an here's another thing to think 494 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: about God, I am, I'm I'm such a hypocrite with this, 495 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: but I've been thinking about it because I'm also at 496 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: a like a little inflection point where I'm trying to 497 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: figure out, you know, my passions and dive deeper into them. 498 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: But it's like the the the action I'm gonna I am. 499 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 3: If you saw how I spent my day today, you 500 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: would kill me for saying this, But it is. I 501 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: But you have to believe in the idea, not the 502 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: fact that I scrolled Instagram for like five fucking hours today. 503 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: The action predicates the motivation, you know what I mean? Okay, 504 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: So like so like, look, you're never gonna know if 505 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: you like traveling abroad or doing whatever the fuck these 506 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: things or selling fucking apples unless if you like, go 507 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: do it, you know, right, So I mean, give it. 508 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: If you can give it a shot, give it, you know, 509 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: give it a shot, and then you'll see and then 510 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: and then it's nice, right because if you go to 511 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: France or whatever and you get there and you're like, 512 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: I really wish I was eating a sandwich and watching 513 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: TV right now, then great, you did it. You have 514 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: verifiable evidence that you don't actually want to do any 515 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: of this shit. I don't know. I don't know where 516 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: I stand on that side. I've been thinking, I really 517 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: truly it's sorta Maddie matt I ever really truly have 518 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: been thinking about this a lot lately, about like feeling 519 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: guilty because you feel like you should want something but 520 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: then not inherently craving it, And I don't know where 521 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: I land on it. I think I land on the 522 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 3: idea that the action predicates the motivation and that you 523 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: know you do shit, and then fucking yeah, I think that. 524 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: I think that's where I ultimately land on. Because you 525 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: don't want to be you don't want to be like 526 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: eighty because, like you said, as you realized, you will 527 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: be uh old, and you don't want to you don't 528 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: want to regret things. But it's also so fucking ea, 529 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: I'm realizing this. It's also so fucking easy. If you're eighty, 530 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: it would be really easy for you to go. I 531 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: swear on my life, if you're eighty, it would be 532 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: really easy for you to go. You know, I spent 533 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: my life eating sandwiches and watching TV, and honestly, at 534 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: the age of eighty, now that it's all over, I 535 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: had a great time doing that and then die. Why not? 536 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: Why not? Why not? Everyone talks about the deathbed like 537 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: it's such and this is all very demotivational. But I 538 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: really have been thinking about that because, you know what, 539 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: if you got I really because when I sit down 540 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: and I eat a sandwich, I was just telling you, 541 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: When I eat the fucking sandwich in the frize and 542 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: I'm watching a YouTube video of ten facts you didn't 543 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: know about Zelda's Skywards Sword, I really can I really 544 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: have tapped into this ability in this moment to be like, 545 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: what an honor it is to eat of this bread 546 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: and watch of the YouTube video? What an honor it is? 547 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: And I think when I'm on my deathbed, I could like, 548 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 3: if I died tomorrow, you know, I don't think I 549 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: would regret the time I spent doing that. I mean, 550 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: i'd like to. I'm very happy that I got to 551 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: also go on lots of adventures and have great relationships 552 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: and with friends, and do work that I was proud 553 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: of and what and I ultimately would like to do 554 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: more of those things and less eating sandwiches and watching TV. 555 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: But if it ended up that all you ever did 556 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: was eat sandwiches, and watch TV. You could you could 557 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: feasibly make peace with that in a way that wouldn't 558 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: be absurd. 559 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: You know, there's really there was really no other time 560 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: like in human history where someone could do that, you know. 561 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, basic basic humanity is Like what do you 562 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: have parents? Right? Mm hmm, Like do you have a 563 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: good relationship with them? 564 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like yeah, we're all right. 565 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: Do you have friends? 566 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorta. I I definitely have friends. I guess that's 567 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: another thing, Like since I've moved. I've been in a 568 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: different state now for like four years now, and it's 569 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: been a lot harder to make friends for some reason. 570 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: Like I feel like the older you get, the harder 571 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: it is to just be like you want to hang 572 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: out after this or something, you know. But yeah, I 573 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: have a I have a solid little group of people, 574 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: and I have some friends that are gonna move with 575 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: me in the summer. But and you know, I say 576 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: all this like ship, like, oh, I don't know what 577 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: I want to do, but like I am also a 578 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: very lucky person and I've I've like made it this far, 579 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: you know, so something will work out. 580 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 3: I mean again, if you died tomorrow, you could be like, well, 581 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 3: I had friends, and I had a decent enough relationship 582 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: with my mom. And yeah, you know, I got to 583 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: watch YouTube. This is great. 584 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to talk to the therapy. Get go. 585 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: I I really it's I it's cool going to talk 586 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: to you about all this, because I swear I've been 587 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: like deep in thought about uh like ambition and whatnot. 588 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm always it's a personal it's a person no choice. Well, 589 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: you know, I. 590 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: Also will say I used to be like, you know, 591 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: when I first when I first left my hometown, and 592 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: like my freshman year of college, like I graduated high 593 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: school twenty twenty, so I the whole COVID thing was happening, 594 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: and literally like it was like rock bottom for me. 595 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I was literally sick every day. I went to college 596 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: and lost like fifty pounds and I like came back 597 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: looking sickly or whatever. And like now I work nine 598 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: to five and I go to the gym after and 599 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: I eat Quen wall So it's like I'm doing something. 600 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: But then it's like, you know, I don't I know, right, 601 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: I am like quen wah. But literally it's like I 602 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: gotta get I gotta keep getting better, I guess in 603 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: my head. And but I have been a lot worse. 604 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, I'm doing I'm doing good now 605 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: I have better and. 606 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: I have this theory. I have this theory. I have 607 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 3: not experienced it in my personal life, but I I 608 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: am optimistically believing that it is possible. My theory is 609 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: that it it is possible to achieve things and improve 610 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 3: it life and be ambitious without fucking hating yourself. I 611 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: have not gotten experience. I have not yet personally experienced this, 612 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 3: but I have to believe it's possible. Maybe maybe it's like, like, 613 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: I like, I can you be ambitious from a place 614 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 3: of not hating yourself, because there's a weird like when 615 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 3: like being ambitious and like wanting to improve yourself and 616 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 3: do stuff kind of comes with the inherent partilate that 617 00:36:53,440 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 3: you are not enough. And I argue, I have you know, 618 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 3: ambitious friends, and I argue with We kind of talked 619 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: back and forth about the whole like being enough thing, 620 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: and I'm I don't like I get I guess like 621 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: if you're like unhappy, like I think it's a weird 622 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: paradox because like you take people who are like unhappy 623 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 3: and you try to and you say like, oh, but 624 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: you are enough as you are, and it's like, well, 625 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: if I'm enough as I am, why why am I 626 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: fucking miserable? You know? So on that sense, I I 627 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 3: don't like the the the movement of you are enough. 628 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 3: But then I like, when I look at it on 629 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 3: the flip side, I'm like, well, you know you never 630 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: get there. You know you can have infinite improvement and 631 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 3: infinite success and it will never be enough, And so 632 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: what you just hate yourself into improvement forever? That's that 633 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 3: also seems fucked to me. So I don't know the answer. 634 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: The answer lies somewhere in the middle. I haven't figured 635 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 3: it out yet, but I think there's I think there's 636 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 3: a balance. It's it's gotta be some balance of the two, 637 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: because if you're just just accepting that you're enough and 638 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: you're miserable all the time, then you're something's clearly off. 639 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: But if the opposite is just hating yourself forever, then 640 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: what kind of life is that? 641 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 4: You know? 642 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: I do kind of feel like some of the most 643 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: like ambitious people in my life also have this, like, like, Okay, 644 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: my best friend she is in like every college club 645 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: dean's list every year, winning awards all the time for 646 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: some shit I didn't even know she was doing, but 647 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: then will tell me like all the time, like I 648 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: literally like everything I do, like I hate myself, you 649 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm like how And I'm like, okay, yeah, 650 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: me too, But how is this manifesting so differently like 651 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: in our two lives? Because when I'm having that like 652 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: I fucking hate myself thing, I will shut down for 653 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: a week and like consider quitting my job and just 654 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: self distruct I guess. But she will just keep picking 655 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: up things and has like an extensive resume And I'm like, how, 656 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: you know, do you know anyone like that? Do you 657 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 1: have anyone like that in your life? 658 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely I don't. 659 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, how did you How did she get that 660 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: into the stick? 661 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 4: And I didn't, you know. 662 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: And it's the same with like those ultra running people, 663 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: like well they'll run for like one hundred miles and 664 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: be like yeah, like something super traumatic happened in my 665 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: life to where this is what I do now, And 666 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, god damn, Like if something traumatic happened in 667 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: my life, like I'd probably be sitting here eating the 668 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: pizza still, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah. 669 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 3: I always think about those like people who don't have 670 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: arms and legs that like didn't fucking go climb a mountain, 671 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 672 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have arms and legs, and I 673 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: still didn't climb the mountain. But Monday one day, I might. 674 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: I don't. I actually, I'm not gonna say I don't 675 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 3: have answers to all these things, because I actually think 676 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: I do or I don't. No, No, I don't have answers, 677 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 3: but I'm I have theories and I'm working on them. 678 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 3: I think my current theory is, uh, well, like I 679 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: procrastinated all day on making a fucking video, and then 680 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 3: once I actually finished it, I felt good. And then 681 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 3: I so I think there's got to be a balance 682 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 3: of like, Okay, you don't procrastinate and like do the 683 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: things you want to do and make the things you're 684 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: trying to make, and then you'll feel better when you 685 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: make those positive choices and changes, and then from there 686 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: you actually do yeah, and then from there you know, 687 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 3: drink as much as you want and gamble and watch 688 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: YouTube and. 689 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: You mean, like as a reward. 690 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what I mean, I 691 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: really don't, but I'm. 692 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: Because I'll do that. I'll do I'll do one good 693 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: thing in my day. And then I'm like, oh, I 694 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: can do whatever I want now. Like, for example, I 695 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: usually go out on Thursdays and do karaoke, and last 696 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: Thursday I didn't go, and I was like, since I 697 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 1: won't be spending money at karaoke, I can go eat 698 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: four donuts for breakfast today, Yeah, as a reward. And 699 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: then it's just like, well, that wasn't a reward. You 700 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: You might as well have just gotten done karaoke and 701 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: spent your money, you know. 702 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 3: But now see how great would your day be if 703 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 3: you went you took a long walk and you're like, 704 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 3: all right, I achieved my fitness goal for the day. 705 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do karaoke. That's a great day. See. 706 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 3: It's a balance, It's a fucking balance. I think the 707 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 3: answer I think there's the I think the like the 708 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 3: capitalist thing of like you are never enough and you 709 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 3: must keep improving is not like there's like something that 710 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: gets somewhere between. There's something like the philosophies of like 711 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 3: the socialist you are enough and everything is fine all 712 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 3: the time, Like there's something in between those two they're 713 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 3: like something we need a balance of the two. 714 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: There is I think one one other thing not to 715 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: be that guy. I've recently stopped smoking so much weed, 716 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 1: and like that has been. That's been like the best thing. 717 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: I think. It did make me gain like a ton 718 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: of weight, which kind of sucks. But also like I 719 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: remember to do things and I don't have like that 720 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: constant like oh my god, you fucking suck thing over 721 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: my head at this point, I still do sometimes. And 722 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,959 Speaker 1: also fuck that whole thing where people are like, yeah, 723 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: weed is an addicting because seriously, like there was a 724 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: weird brain switch that happened to me like two years ago, 725 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: where like all of a sudden I would smoke the 726 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: tiniest amount of weed and like just get scared. And 727 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: it still happens, and it's happened. It started two years ago, 728 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: and to this day, I still smoke every day, but 729 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's just like before I go to bed 730 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: or whatever, cause I guess it's sort of just like 731 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: a ritual I've built in my head. But like every 732 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: day I smoke my weed and get scared and go 733 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: to sleep, and it's like, man, this shit is fucking addicting, 734 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: Like I don't even know. I don't know what to say. 735 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: It's definitely not like crack or anything. 736 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 3: It is. It is very hilarious. How many times I've 737 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 3: been like, Oh, I'm gonna smoke weed before I go 738 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 3: to the grocery store, and then I have a panic 739 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 3: the grocery store. And then the next day, dude, and 740 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 3: then the next day I'm like, I should fucking smoke 741 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: weed before I go to the grocery store. 742 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: Well, it sounds so nice, And it used to be, 743 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, like in high school, I was 744 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: literally like all day long, just like high as fuck, 745 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: hitting the dappin, smoking joints, hitting the bong or whatever. 746 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 1: And now it's like one little rip of the bong 747 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: and it's like ruined my whole day and I have 748 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: to go to sleep. I guess that's part of I've 749 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: heard that happening like to other people, and I guess 750 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: it's just part of Like I guess you just hit 751 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: your limit eventually. But I if you asked me when 752 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: I was seventeen, like, are you gonna be scared of 753 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: weed randomly one day, I'd be like, why would that happen? 754 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: You know, Like I don't know what happened in my brain, 755 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: but I can pinpoint the exact day it happened. And 756 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 1: it's been that way ever since, and I still haven't stopped. 757 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what it is, but 758 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,479 Speaker 1: I have. I have significantly cut down and it's been 759 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: super helpful and on the normal side of living honestly. 760 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 3: Maddie, mm hmm. Is there anything else you want to 761 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 3: say to the people of the computer before we go? 762 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: No, is not. I really appreciate you picking. 763 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 3: Up, of course. Good luck with your life. Thank you, Uh, 764 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 3: you know everything I was gonna say. I was gonna 765 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 3: say everything will probably be fine, but that yeah, why not? 766 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? 767 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 3: Sure, I mean everything will be fine. Everyone, everything is 768 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 3: gonna everyone will die, and it will be good because 769 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 3: that's we'll go back. We'll go, we'll return, We'll return 770 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 3: to the prodigal son. I don't know what I'm talking about. 771 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,959 Speaker 3: Thank you for calling, Maddy. I'll see you around the universe. 772 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 3: Lyle bye. That was a nice conversation. That was good. 773 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: I am. Yeah, a lot of those things that Maddie 774 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 3: was talking about. I was thinking about a lot. 775 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 776 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't know how ambitious you're supposed to be or 777 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,720 Speaker 3: like the weird, like the thing of like, oh, should 778 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 3: I be feeling certain feelings? I don't know. There's probably 779 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 3: some book about all this ship that I talk about 780 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 3: on this show that is like, here's what you here's 781 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 3: here's what your brain should be doing at all times. 782 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 3: And I'll just one day I'll find it and everything 783 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 3: and people will call me and I'll just be like, well, 784 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 3: here's what it says in the book that knows everything, 785 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 3: because there's always a fucking book that knows everything. 786 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 2: Hi, what's your name, Tony the Tiger. 787 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 3: Tony the Tiger. What's up, Tony the Tiger? What are 788 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 3: you doing? 789 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: Uh? 790 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 2: Nothing much, man. I just finished playing pickle ball. It's 791 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: played about an hour and a half to pick a ball, 792 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: So just kind of relaxing for the rest of the night. 793 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 3: M Is there anything in particular that you called in 794 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 3: want to talk about Tony the Tiger? 795 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I just Uh. I'm graduating from medical school 796 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 2: in about a month, so it's kind of a big 797 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: transition for me. I'm starting residency in July, so it's 798 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 2: a big It's a big thing for me, a big 799 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 2: life event. 800 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 3: Uh Y, are you excited? What are you in? Residency? 801 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 3: For like what kind of medicine. 802 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 2: So internal medicine. So that's like you know when you 803 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 2: think doctor, that's like the doctor like you know, like 804 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 2: when you go to the hospital, the one that just 805 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 2: sees you rounds on you every day. 806 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 3: That's cool. 807 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 2: Get kind of like general medicine type. 808 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 3: You're gonna get to look inside of a lot of ears. 809 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 2: Well not in the hospital so much. A lot of 810 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 2: hospitals don't even have that tool to look in the ears. 811 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,240 Speaker 2: You just kind of got to bring your own around. 812 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 2: And if you don't have it and then you're not 813 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 2: looking in any years, wait. 814 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 3: A minute, you have to buy you you're like a 815 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 3: teacher at an underfunded school. You have to bring your 816 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 3: own shit. 817 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of the hospitals, like you go 818 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: in the room and they don't even they don't even 819 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 2: have like the tools and stuff on the wall all. 820 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 2: A lot of times that's more in like a clinic. 821 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 2: That's more in like you go into the clinic, like 822 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 2: your primarary doctor to get like a check up for 823 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 2: you know, your struped throat or whatever. 824 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 3: So you just got like a steph of scope in 825 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 3: your pocket with your like phone and keys and vape 826 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 3: and ship and you bring it into the hospital. 827 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 2: I try to stay away from the vape. I've had 828 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: a couple of classmates that pulled out their vape in 829 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 2: the hospital, Like we're walking through the er and they 830 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 2: just start vaping. I'm like, dude, we're gonna get kicked 831 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 2: out of here, like stop stop sucking vaping, Like just 832 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 2: walking by the patient room and they just put It's 833 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 2: just like automatic because like the nicotine addiction, they think, 834 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 2: do it without thinking about it. 835 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 3: You know, how was medical school? It sounds like it 836 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 3: was easy. 837 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 2: Oh, it was the easiest four years of my life 838 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: for sure. No, it was. It was super hard man. 839 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 2: I would say the first year, what was the hardest. 840 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 2: I think you've mentioned that you have friends who were 841 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 2: in med school or something, but. 842 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I have one of my best friends 843 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 3: is is about to start as residency. 844 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, you know a little bit about it. 845 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: But for the listeners or whatever, it's like first year 846 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 2: is when you have like all the classes at once. 847 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 2: So you got like anatomy, like your general class where 848 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 2: you learn how to like treat patients and be a doctor. 849 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 2: And then I'm at a doo school, so I'll theopathic medicine, 850 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 2: so you have to do like spinal manipulation stuff. So 851 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 2: that's another class. You're doing all that at once, and 852 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 2: it's just freaking brutal. Like people like either like turn 853 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 2: to like drugs that first semester or they like like 854 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 2: try to like you know, fuck the classmates. Like there's 855 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 2: a lot of like relationships that popped up. Like the 856 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 2: first semester that was this is everyone was like really stressed, 857 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 2: you know, and trying to. 858 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 3: Like doing doing drugs and trying to fuck your classmates 859 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 3: sounds pretty standard. 860 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 2: No, oh, that's yeah, that's pretty standards. That's pretty standard stuff. 861 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 3: So that was across across all disciplines. 862 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, even if you're like, uh, you know, an 863 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 2: accountant school, you're also trying to fuck your classmates. So 864 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 2: it's it's across all disciplines. But that's the hardest semester. 865 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 2: And then it's like once you figure out how to study, 866 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 2: you just kind of coast from there and you're just 867 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: kind of chilling trying to get to third year. When 868 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 2: you're actually third years, like when you do your clinicals 869 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 2: and you actually like get to go out and you 870 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 2: have to like you know, sit in your apartment for 871 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,439 Speaker 2: twelve hours a day by yourself, like eating grub hub 872 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: every day. You're actually out in the hospital like doing things. 873 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 2: That was my like first year, it was just like 874 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 2: ordering grub Hub and studying. So I got like the 875 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 2: freshman of fifteen. 876 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you excited to be a doctor? That's so real. 877 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 3: That's such a real job. It's an interesting it's an 878 00:50:54,680 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 3: interesting thing because like like the previous caller that we talked. 879 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 2: To, I didn't hear that, but yeah, she. 880 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 3: Was kind of like, oh, like what am I going 881 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 3: to be doing when I'm fifty? And I also have 882 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 3: that thing, and I have some friends who I'm also like, 883 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 3: what the hell are we going to be doing when 884 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 3: we're like old and shit? And but what you're doing 885 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 3: is interesting because you kind of know you're how old 886 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 3: are you? 887 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 2: Thirties and my early thirties. 888 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 3: Early thirties, see, but you kind of know what you're 889 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 3: going to be doing for the entire rest of your life. 890 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you generally know, Like each day is different. That's why, 891 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 2: like I like medicine because you're not you're not doing 892 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 2: the same necessarily the same thing over and over because 893 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 2: you're seeing different patients. Every day. So but you generally 894 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 2: know what you're going to be doing, and you have 895 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 2: like pretty good job security, i'd say, because you actually 896 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 2: like have like a thought after skill. But you know, 897 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: it's kind of like I think, like coding, you know, 898 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 2: is another one where you have like job security because 899 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 2: you have like a sought after school and stuff like that. 900 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of jobs where it's like, you know, 901 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,839 Speaker 2: you know what you're going to be doing, Like you said, 902 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 2: until until you're like fifty, you don't have like any 903 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 2: you know, there's no blackness, you know, kind of in 904 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 2: front of you for what your career is going to be. 905 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 2: Like do you like that? I do like that. I 906 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 2: think it's it just gives you, like it takes one 907 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 2: more stress out of life. Like you know, there's a 908 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 2: lot of people who have jobs where like they're not sure. 909 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 2: I worked at a job where I was like not 910 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 2: sure if I was going to get laid off, not 911 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 2: necessarily fired, but like laid off. And I think a 912 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 2: lot of people have that in their careers and it 913 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 2: could be any type of job. You know, even doctors 914 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 2: can get laid off, but like there's less of a 915 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 2: chance of that, especially if you're at like a hospital 916 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 2: that's kind of more rural. So I do like that, 917 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 2: but yeah, I just you know, and I don't really 918 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 2: I think like it's not the only way to go 919 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 2: and in your life, you know, like there's tons of 920 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 2: different career pathways you can go where you have job 921 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 2: security and doesn't require like an extra seven years just 922 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 2: to school, you know. So it's like I just did 923 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,359 Speaker 2: it because I couldn't see myself doing anything else. 924 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 3: You know, that's a great reasons like I do it. 925 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 3: Can AI replace the doctors or are you guys good. 926 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: Dude? 927 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 2: I was literally thinking about that today because I was 928 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 2: I saw a meme or not a meme, but like 929 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 2: a post about the Medtronic. The company has like a 930 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 2: new robot where they're they're able to do like the 931 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 2: surgery general surgeries like appendectomies and stuff like where you 932 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 2: take your appendix out with's like the same error rate 933 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 2: as like a regular surgeon. But the robots aren't actually robots. 934 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 2: They're being controlled by the surgeon like remotely, so there's 935 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 2: no there's no autonomous robots at this point even remotely 936 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 2: doing surgery. So it's gonna be a long time. The 937 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 2: first thing to go. I think it's gonna be like 938 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 2: radiology because you're like looking at X rays and there's 939 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 2: like pattern recognition software, you know. And then same thing 940 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 2: for like pathology, where you're just like looking at microscope slides. 941 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 2: You're just looking for patterns. So I think that's another 942 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 2: thing that could be the next one for AI, but 943 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 2: just for like a regular doctor where you're just like 944 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,760 Speaker 2: you need empathy, you need to talk to the patient, 945 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 2: talk to the family, make decisions on the fly. That's 946 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be a little harder. 947 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 3: That makes sense there, Yeah, yeah, it does, like uh, 948 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 3: you know, you want I mean, yeah, part of your 949 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 3: job is like talking to people and doing stuff that 950 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 3: I guess a robot can't do. 951 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And maybe at some point we'll have like 952 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 2: freaking matrix robots that just like take over and they're 953 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 2: the doctors. But I don't know if they'll be evil, 954 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 2: Maybe they won't want to treat humans, so I don't 955 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but maybe at one point 956 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 2: we'll have that. I don't know. It's gonna be a 957 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 2: long time, probably. I don't think in our lifetime. Low. 958 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be way past when we're or alive, 959 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 2: that that's gonna be fully like honest robots doing surgery, 960 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 2: that's my opinion. 961 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 3: But well that are you excited for that? I mean, 962 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,720 Speaker 3: like do you feel like they'll be better? 963 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 2: I really think like the biggest thing that patients like 964 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 2: say to me that they like about me is that 965 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm like generally pretty personal. They're like that. They're like 966 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 2: the I'm like the nicest person to come in the 967 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 2: room all day and just talk to them. And you know, 968 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 2: human touch is another thing. So like I don't know 969 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 2: if you ever had a doctor that just went in 970 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 2: and like didn't even touch you, like do a physical exam, 971 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 2: and you're like, what the fuck's that? Like did he 972 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 2: even do anything? Or even do anything? So it's like 973 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 2: that's a big part of being a doctor is like 974 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 2: the human compassion, human touch aspect. So I mean you 975 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 2: want like a cold, like silvery robot hand doing a 976 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 2: physical exam on you, you know, or I guess they 977 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 2: could they could do like a warming thing of the 978 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: hand with the robots, but I don't know, I think 979 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 2: that the human side is like a big thing. I thought, 980 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 2: I'm not really excited for that to be a thing. 981 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 3: It'll be interesting when like you have kids who grew 982 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 3: up with robots. 983 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 2: You know, Well, it'd be like Alledium, like that movie 984 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 2: with Matt Damon where this guy Elysium where the rich 985 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 2: people just like go get into a pod with robots 986 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 2: and they just are like automatically healed. But the poor 987 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 2: people don't have access to that. It could be like 988 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 2: that something. 989 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 3: I think. I think, I think I got to stop 990 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 3: talking about AI so much. 991 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, but yeah, just yeah, I'm excited to do 992 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 2: it for residency. I'm excited to be a doctor. I 993 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 2: don't have to walk into a room and say I'm 994 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 2: this I'm student doctor Tony and Tiger, and I can 995 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 2: just be like, I'm doctor Tony the Tuger. I can 996 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 2: just actually be more confident. You know what, I. 997 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 3: Forgot that you started this call by saying that you 998 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 3: were Tony the Tiger. 999 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 2: Well, dude, Tony Tiger's a He's a forgotten mascot. 1000 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 3: So I wonder I see when Honestly, when you said that, 1001 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to bed of a dumb 1002 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 3: ass troll. But you're actually like a smart guy. 1003 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 2: I was just trying to come up with the name. Dude, 1004 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 2: I just popped into my head and I was just 1005 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 2: coming up with a stupid team. I don't want to 1006 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 2: troll you, dude, y'll be listening to you. You were 1007 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 2: one of the podcasts that getting me through med school. 1008 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 1: Do. 1009 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 2: I started listening to you my first semester in med 1010 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 2: school and like what, I'm just like vibing out chilling 1011 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 2: after test you. I just listened for like four hours, yeah, 1012 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 2: and just like chill. So I think you you can, 1013 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 2: I can. I shout out a couple other my podcasts 1014 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 2: that got me through the tough time. Go ahead, bad friends, 1015 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 2: Bobby Lee, my boy Andrew Sentino. I know Bobby Lee 1016 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 2: was on your your podcast, and then uh ceo Von 1017 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 2: this past weekend. He's he's a cool, cool dude. So 1018 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: those ones have been great, dude. And then I got 1019 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 2: into doctor Drew after seeing uh seeing him on your 1020 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 2: podcast also. 1021 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so yeah, there's. 1022 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 2: Just like yat to have someone anyone's thinking about doing 1023 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 2: some sort of horror graduate agree now as med school 1024 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 2: or anything, you got to have like some sort of outlet, 1025 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 2: you know, the whether it's like chilling listening podcast. I 1026 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: just would go for a three four out walk and 1027 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 2: just listen to therapy. Get go just kind of chill 1028 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 2: and get out, like you said, you always say get outside, 1029 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: like that's anyone can just go outside, just walk outside. 1030 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 4: You know. 1031 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 3: I kind of like bringing this back to the previous 1032 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 3: conversation that I just had, and I know you weren't 1033 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 3: there for it, but it was a lot about like 1034 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 3: ambition versus not and talking to you is interesting because 1035 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 3: the world does require the continued existence of the human 1036 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 3: you know what's fucking oh man, okay, hold, I'm about 1037 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 3: to fuck my mind. The continued existence of the human 1038 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 3: race is kind of dependent upon people having ambition, because 1039 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 3: we need people like you to be ambitious enough to 1040 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 3: go become doctors. So if everyone decided that watching TV 1041 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 3: and eating sandwiches was enough, we'd be fucked. But also, 1042 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 3: but also also on top of that, I. 1043 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 5: Kind of have a little part of me that goes, 1044 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 5: you know what, if the human race died out because 1045 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 5: we all got lazy and decided that eating sandwiches was enough, 1046 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 5: and then we all died, maybe it kind of really 1047 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 5: was enough and we could all just die. 1048 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 3: That's insane. I'm insane. I gotta stop talking like this. 1049 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 3: I really I don't know what the fuck happened to me. 1050 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 3: You've been listening to me, What's what is this? Okay? 1051 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 3: You've been listening to me go crazy for a month. 1052 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 3: What does that sound like to you? Am I insane? 1053 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 2: Dude? I love it. I know you're just because you've 1054 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 2: been driving a lot and you've been like probably really tired, 1055 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 2: and just like had the opportunity to be like thinking 1056 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 2: all the time because you're I mean, I'm assuming like 1057 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 2: you're traveling alone a lot of times, so you just 1058 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 2: when you have the time to think by yourself, sometimes 1059 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 2: you just go into spirals. I think everybody does that, 1060 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 2: Like I've been doing that the third year of med 1061 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 2: school because I don't talk anyone. I just go to 1062 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 2: the hospital and come home and I just think about shit. 1063 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 2: So it's like, it's not You're not going crazy, dude, 1064 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 2: You're just thinking a lot, and you're probably taking yourself 1065 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 2: into like just a bunch of spiraling dark holes. It 1066 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 2: doesn't sound you're definitely different than you were, but you're 1067 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 2: I still love listening to you. Like you're just changing 1068 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 2: with you know, with your experiences and stuff. 1069 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,439 Speaker 3: It's scary, though, I don't want to be different than 1070 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 3: how I know. I I've thought myself into. I've kind 1071 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 3: of it feels almost as though I've irreversibly thought myself 1072 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 3: into Like today I was just I was on I 1073 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 3: was procrastinating, and I was like asking chat gybt if 1074 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 3: science could verifiably deny that we are living in a 1075 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 3: simulation and shit like that, And I was really I 1076 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 3: really like like like people say shit like like like 1077 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 3: people get high and say like, oh, could we be 1078 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 3: living in a simulation? But like I felt that, and 1079 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 3: I really felt I really was left for a for 1080 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 3: a while still, I'm like, oh, fuck, are we living 1081 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 3: in a simulation? 1082 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 2: But that's how you my quick thought on that. It's 1083 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 2: like there's a dud that used to listen to you 1084 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 2: on Serious XM and he would just be like, well, 1085 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 2: who the fuck here is if you're living in you know, simulation, 1086 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 2: you still have you're still living. Just enjoy like the experience, 1087 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 2: like everyone dies, like, just enjoy it while you're here. 1088 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 2: And there's probably no way that you're ever gonna know 1089 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 2: if you're living in a simulation, So just keep going. 1090 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 2: Just have fun, go out with friends, you know, do 1091 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 2: fun things, travel like you do, talk to people, and 1092 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 2: just enjoy it, you know. 1093 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, all these things I'm thinking about. All these things 1094 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about, you're not supposed to be thinking about 1095 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 3: them for too long. 1096 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you might. You might have gotten a little bit 1097 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 2: too deep into this. 1098 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 3: I think that's why I got a little bit too deep. 1099 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 3: Outside of the matrix, there's no there's no bottom, there's 1100 01:01:54,200 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 3: no and you know, getting you know, reading like I 1101 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 3: don't read books. I I don't read books. I adhd 1102 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 3: scramble around Wikipedia, and I was doing that today. I 1103 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 3: was ADHD scrambling around Wikipedia, like looking at like the 1104 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 3: Wikipedia page of consciousness and of like like ship like 1105 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 3: that and like looking at like like skimming through the 1106 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 3: Wikipedia pages of like philosophers is doing that today and 1107 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,959 Speaker 3: like reading about like theories of consciousness. And it felt 1108 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 3: important to like dive into a little bit. But you don't, 1109 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 3: you'll you'll it'll it will kind of if you go 1110 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 3: too deep into that, it'll kind of ruin your life. 1111 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 2: Like like athletes or something or like like I love 1112 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 2: Jamie Soox. I just Wikipedia Jamie Fox over and over. Yeah, 1113 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just Wikia like fun things a 1114 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Wikipedia racist. 1115 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to do that on stream. But if 1116 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,479 Speaker 3: you go too deep into like existentialist thoughts and theory 1117 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 3: and stuff. It just will ruin. It ruined my life 1118 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 3: for a little bit. I'm trying to get out of it, 1119 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 3: and I actually think I will. I think the key 1120 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 3: to getting out of it is you got you just 1121 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 3: gotta do. You just gotta be in your life. You 1122 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 3: gotta have responsibilities, you gotta. I mean, you're a great 1123 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 3: example of a real person because you have so many 1124 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 3: like being in residency. I mean, you don't have time 1125 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 3: to think about fucking like what happens after we die, 1126 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 3: because you're so in life. 1127 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 2: It's frozen meals over and in my life. 1128 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 3: That's the key. You gotta be in your life in 1129 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 3: some way, shape or form, whether it's being with people 1130 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 3: or working or what. You gotta be in your life 1131 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:45,479 Speaker 3: because if you if. 1132 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 2: You gotta go do something real, like you gotta do 1133 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 2: something real, solid, objectively real that can get like y'all 1134 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 2: just sit in your room. I know if people I've 1135 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 2: been that way before, while I've been depressed, I just 1136 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 2: want to sit in my room. But you just got 1137 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 2: to force yourself to go out and do things, you know, 1138 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 2: which is easier said and done. 1139 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 3: But I've had too little responsibility because I was touring 1140 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 3: and traveling for a while, and now that I'm now, 1141 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 3: I'm not and I think I've had too little responsive. 1142 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 3: My responsibility has become too little. Now that I'm I thought, 1143 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 3: I literally thought about that. I thought about that. I'm like, 1144 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 3: should I just have a But that's a that's a 1145 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 3: bad reason to have a kid. 1146 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 2: No, I know, don't have kids. Maybe get like a 1147 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 2: goldfish or something. 1148 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 3: I do you have once you yeah, if you have 1149 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 3: too little responsibility, you start thinking and I'm actually I 1150 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 3: mean this, I'm I am glad that I don't think 1151 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 3: this will last forever. I'm optimistic that I'll I'll heal myself. 1152 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 3: But I'm glad I had this little era in my 1153 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 3: life because I think it's an honor as a human 1154 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 3: being to get to this point where you're so did 1155 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 3: like in the like conscious of these crazy kind of 1156 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 3: terrifying existential things, like because I do believe I'll be 1157 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 3: able to like see it and then go back to 1158 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 3: like let me stop at a stop sign and like 1159 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 3: an Instagram put it just like whatever the bullshit of life. 1160 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 2: And everybody goes through it. Dude, there's like it's just 1161 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 2: kind of stupid reference but there's that episode of Knock 1162 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Them Now from the Middle where like Malcolm like goes 1163 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 2: into like the existential crisis and like doesn't believe that 1164 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 2: anything's real and just like super depressed, and like his 1165 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 2: mom's like she's like, don't worry about respent like two 1166 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 2: days in the dryer, just like sitting in the dryer, 1167 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 2: like thinking about life. That's like everyone like experiences that 1168 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 2: kind of thing where they're just like, what is life? 1169 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on? Some people experienced it 1170 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,479 Speaker 2: later than others, you know, I don't. 1171 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 3: I actually I don't know if everyone experiences that. I 1172 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 3: think it's no, Like do you think no some people 1173 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 3: are too, I don't think. I I genuinely I don't 1174 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 3: think every single person experiences that. 1175 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 2: Okay again, Yeah, yeah, it's hard to talking absolute, so 1176 01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 2: probably you're probably correct. 1177 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 3: I mean, like, okay again again alluding to the previous 1178 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 3: conversation I just had. We were talking about like people 1179 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 3: who are like eighty years old and like arguing about 1180 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 3: coupons with people or whatever. You know, I'm talking about 1181 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 3: like angry eighty year old. 1182 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 4: Ye. 1183 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I think if you're I think 1184 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 3: if you're eighty years old and you are arguing with 1185 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 3: a retail worker, you've probably never had an existential crisis 1186 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 3: in your entire life. I would gander that. 1187 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 2: That's probably true if you're like pinching pennies like that, 1188 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 2: Like what are those people called that are the super 1189 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 2: coupons or whatever that are like they try to they 1190 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 2: spend hours trying to like save money on shit with coupons. 1191 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 2: Those people probably never. 1192 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well not necessarily like people who not necessarily like 1193 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 3: penny pinchers, but just people who like they like are like, 1194 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 3: you know, concerned with like complete other. But if you're 1195 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 3: eighty years old and you were just concerned about like 1196 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 3: complete other bullshit that has fucking like nothing to do 1197 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 3: with you, you've probably ever had an existential crisis, which 1198 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 3: is But so I guess I think. 1199 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 2: What's another example of that though, like something that had 1200 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 2: nothing to do with you that is bullshit? What's what's 1201 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 2: one other? 1202 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 3: Let me think, like sorry to challenge you, No, no, no, no, 1203 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 3: this is it's okay. I'm trying. I'm trying to think 1204 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 3: of like concrete examples. 1205 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of one too, but I don't know, 1206 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 2: like what you're I don't know, like I don't know, 1207 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 2: like what you're like what someone else is wearing, maybe. 1208 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 3: Like yeah, sure sure something like that, you know, or 1209 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, if you're like crazy what you know 1210 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 3: what you know what I mean though, like people definitely 1211 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 3: people who've never had accidential crisis. So I think by 1212 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 3: that point, like if it is kind of it is 1213 01:07:52,520 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 3: weirdly an honor to have like a terrifying existential crisis. 1214 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 3: I think it's something to push through and eventually be like, Okay, 1215 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back into the matrix and be learn 1216 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 3: learn how to accept that you'll never have answers to 1217 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 3: these terrifying questions and like that's fine and okay, and 1218 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 3: like just eat your sandwich and do your job and 1219 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 3: be okay, you know. 1220 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 2: Just eat your sandwich and just kind of. 1221 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,800 Speaker 3: Eat your blooney sandwich and look at you know, watch 1222 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 3: a YouTube video and shut up. You know, it's fine, 1223 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,920 Speaker 3: shut the fuck up, right, you know, but it's an 1224 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 3: honor that you ever got, and you I don't think 1225 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 3: you can ever fully silence whatever screaming part of your 1226 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:54,720 Speaker 3: brain is is in touch with that, but it's you know, 1227 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 3: it's good to have had that at some point in 1228 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 3: your level before you you know, it's good to have. 1229 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 3: That's the is are Really, there's a higher being things 1230 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 3: that I sound kind of like a douche, but I 1231 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 3: I you. 1232 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 2: Know, I don't know anyway, think you're someone's but. 1233 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 3: I'm sorry you cut out just now. 1234 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,639 Speaker 2: Nobody thinks that you're a douche. 1235 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 3: What's your name again? 1236 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1237 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Tony the Tiger, your phone sucks and I 1238 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 3: can't I can't understand, but it's okay. I was going 1239 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 3: to end the phone call soon. Anyway. I like you, 1240 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 3: Tony the Tiger. You're You're a cool guy. I'm I'm 1241 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm happy to live on the same planet as you. 1242 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,480 Speaker 3: Uh right now, this is cool. 1243 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:44,120 Speaker 2: Person. 1244 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna try to win back. Where do you live? Like, 1245 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 3: you don't have to give me your address? 1246 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 2: No, where that you would ever come. It's a it's 1247 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 2: a big college campus, but in a state that you'd 1248 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:55,640 Speaker 2: probably never come to. 1249 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 3: Well, try me what state? 1250 01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 2: Arkansas? 1251 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 3: Uh? Where? What's the biggest city in Arkansas? Lafayette? 1252 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,840 Speaker 2: To someone the other day, Now you talk to someone 1253 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 2: the other day who's from that town? 1254 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 3: What town? Little Rock? 1255 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:21,520 Speaker 2: Like? No, what's the biggest college University of Arkansas. That's 1256 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 2: the big college here. 1257 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 3: Which city is that? 1258 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:25,560 Speaker 2: Fayetteville? 1259 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 3: Fayetteville, Okay? Is there is that where you live? 1260 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in this in this area? 1261 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 3: Is it? What's it like? 1262 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,519 Speaker 2: Dude? It's fucking awesome. There's tons of comedy clubs here. 1263 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 2: There's bars, and there's big concert venues and stuff. Bobby 1264 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 2: Lee came here to do a show. We had a 1265 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,799 Speaker 2: bunch of comedians. Nate Bargetti came here. 1266 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,640 Speaker 3: I would do a show in Fayetville, Arkansas. Well, I 1267 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 3: don't know if anyone would, if people would come, If 1268 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,679 Speaker 3: I get like one hundred people, that could be fun. 1269 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,839 Speaker 2: I mean it's forty thousand people of this campus, college campus, 1270 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 2: So all. 1271 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 3: Right, maybe what's the comedy club there? 1272 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,640 Speaker 2: There's a bunch. There's JJ's Live. But then there's the 1273 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 2: Walmart Empathy here, which is like the big outdoor venue 1274 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 2: where Bobby Lee played. 1275 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if I draw to play the Walmart 1276 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 3: amphitheater man. 1277 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a JJ's Live is probably where you go. 1278 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,679 Speaker 2: There's a bunch of them. There's these big, big clubs 1279 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 2: where bands come and comedy people come. 1280 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 3: I'll try if you work at JJ's Live hit me 1281 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,440 Speaker 3: up on Instagram. 1282 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 2: All right, man, Well that's talking to you, dude. 1283 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 3: Let's talking to you too, Tonny. Is there anything else 1284 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,280 Speaker 3: you want to say to the people of the computer 1285 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 3: before we go? 1286 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 2: Just keep listening to therapy that go as long as 1287 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 2: he doesn't. 1288 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 3: God fucking bless you, Tony. Keep keep keep being I'm glad. 1289 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you didn't. I'm glad you did something 1290 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 3: with your life. I'm very happy about that. 1291 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 2: It's good that you're a doctor and you as well, sir, 1292 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:00,640 Speaker 2: have get care man. 1293 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 3: Bye bye. Hello, Hey, Hey, what's your name? My name 1294 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 3: is Mike, Mike. What's up, Mike? How you doing? 1295 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm gonna at the gym at the moment, 1296 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna taking a break right now. 1297 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 3: You're at the gym. What are we what are we 1298 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 3: working on? Is it a push day? A pull day? 1299 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,080 Speaker 4: It's leg day? 1300 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 3: Leg Day? Respect for not skipping leg day. I'm a 1301 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,959 Speaker 3: big leg day skipper. 1302 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, you should not skip leg day at all. 1303 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 3: Just real quick. I'm not on like a headset or 1304 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 3: anything like that, right. 1305 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to find the quietest part in this gym, 1306 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 4: and it's just like I think I'm gonna go there. 1307 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, Okay? How are you? How are 1308 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:49,759 Speaker 3: your legs? How are your calves? 1309 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 4: Oh? I'm dying right now. I'm legit dying. 1310 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 3: Why are you legit dying? 1311 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 4: It kind of went a little hard on my lot today. Yeah, 1312 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 4: I did five forty on the squad. 1313 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 3: You did five five? I'm sorry you say five forty? Yeah, 1314 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:16,640 Speaker 3: five hundred forty pounds? Yeah, So like, hold on, do 1315 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 3: you squat? Hold on? You squat five hundred and forty pounds? 1316 01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,559 Speaker 4: Yes, And like to give you like a picture of 1317 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 4: like what my body size is. I'm five eight and 1318 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 4: I'm less than one or forty five pounds at the moment. 1319 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,480 Speaker 3: Bro, there's no way you squat five hundred and forty pounds. 1320 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 3: That's like how many of you? 1321 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:44,599 Speaker 4: About three? I think I'm not good at maths? 1322 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 3: Is that even physical? Is that? Is that physically possible? 1323 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,560 Speaker 4: It is? It is physically possible as long as you 1324 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 4: conditionally train your your muscle to do it, and then 1325 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,760 Speaker 4: you always up your your level every time you you, uh, 1326 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 4: you work out that muscle, then you'll get stronger. 1327 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 3: Do you What do your calves look like? Are you ripped? 1328 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm getting ripped. Yeah, yeah, but my legs look way 1329 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,000 Speaker 4: better than my upper half body right now, so like 1330 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 4: I'm getting my my ass back again at the moment. 1331 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 3: Did There's no fucking way you you're lying to me. 1332 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,560 Speaker 3: You do not squat five hundred and forty pounds. 1333 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 4: I'll see you a video later if you want. 1334 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 3: You know what, Yeah, actually, dude, send me a video 1335 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 3: of you squatting five hundred and forty pounds. Can you 1336 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 3: do it right now? Actually? 1337 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, do you want me to go back to 1338 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 4: the leg part of it? I'll do it. 1339 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:44,559 Speaker 3: What do you mean the leg part of it? 1340 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 4: No, because I'm at the core part of the gym 1341 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,360 Speaker 4: right now, so I have to walk to the. 1342 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,839 Speaker 3: Oh okay, Oh I thought you had a pre existing 1343 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:52,599 Speaker 3: video of this. 1344 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 4: No, no, no, not yet, but I'll film one just 1345 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,520 Speaker 4: for you. 1346 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 3: You squatted five hundred and forty pounds and you didn't 1347 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,759 Speaker 3: even video it to show people. 1348 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 4: No, I'm not the show off kind of guy, though, 1349 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,360 Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not like literally like three quarters of 1350 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 4: people here in the gym, or are they like take 1351 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 4: selfies in the gym, or like you know, if you 1352 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,839 Speaker 4: kidnap that if. 1353 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 3: You can squat five hundred and forty pounds. You get 1354 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,240 Speaker 3: to take a video of it and brag about it. 1355 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,960 Speaker 3: You that you get to do that, you earned the 1356 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 3: ability to do that. Is this a one rep? Is this? 1357 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 3: Is this a one rep max? Or are you doing 1358 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:31,640 Speaker 3: multiple ramps? 1359 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:37,679 Speaker 4: I do? I do? Uh? Uh? Ten reps? Uh ten 1360 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 4: ten rap, ten raps. 1361 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 3: Three sets, ten reps, three sets of five hundred and 1362 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:46,680 Speaker 3: forty pounds. You're fucking lying to me. 1363 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I promise. I think you promise. 1364 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 3: What do you what do you bent? 1365 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:55,680 Speaker 5: Uh? 1366 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 4: I'm venturing at two fifty at the moment. 1367 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,800 Speaker 3: Two fifty? Yeah, dude, what do you look like? 1368 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 4: I'm okay? 1369 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:06,719 Speaker 3: Uh? 1370 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 4: Imagine Bruce Lee with long hair. 1371 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,759 Speaker 3: You look like Bruce Lee with long hair. 1372 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 4: With really long hair. 1373 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1374 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:16,799 Speaker 3: Are you skary? 1375 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Like? 1376 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:17,599 Speaker 3: Are you skinny? 1377 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm slim fit. Yeah, I'm skinny. 1378 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 3: And how much did you say you weigh? 1379 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 4: I'm less than one hundred and forty five pounds at 1380 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 4: the moment. 1381 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 3: Shut the shut up, Shut the fuck up. You are less. 1382 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 3: Shut up, dude, you are lying to me. Why you 1383 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 3: like you learn less? You're less than one hundred and 1384 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 3: forty five pounds right now. 1385 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 4: I'm at five eight two five eight forty five pounds. 1386 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,240 Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up. You do not bench two hundred 1387 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 3: and fifty pounds and squat five hundred pounds. 1388 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,719 Speaker 4: I'll tak a video so you can be shocked for yourself. 1389 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:55,680 Speaker 3: That's not even four. Like what, dude, You're fucking completely 1390 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 3: lying to me right now. 1391 01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not lying to you, Lyle. 1392 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,799 Speaker 3: Not. How is that even physically possible? 1393 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 4: You just train? I've been training like since like last fall, 1394 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 4: I've been I've been uh sticking to my gym regiment 1395 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:20,680 Speaker 4: since last fall, and I've gotten stronger since you've just 1396 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,640 Speaker 4: seen me. Like last fall I was, I was like 1397 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,439 Speaker 4: at one to fifty eight, and I somehow managed to 1398 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 4: lose weight during my journey of like uh working out 1399 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 4: like every time. 1400 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 3: Dude. Okay, yeah, I you know what. I don't even 1401 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 3: I was going to react to it on the podcast, 1402 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 3: But send me, send me these videos of you doing me. 1403 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,679 Speaker 3: I just for my own personal I want to see 1404 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 3: you one hundred five eight one hundred and forty five 1405 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 3: pounds man squatting five hundred and forty pounds and benching 1406 01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,120 Speaker 3: two hundred fifty pounds looks like Cause I think, what 1407 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 3: do I bench, I bench like, let me check, I forget. 1408 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 3: There's no way. Do you take steroids? 1409 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,840 Speaker 4: No? I don't. The most I do is uh is 1410 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,799 Speaker 4: actually that energy drink that you drink Celsius? 1411 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 3: Oh celsius. 1412 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1413 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 3: So now all right, how many how many celsiuses are 1414 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 3: you on? When you bench one hundred and whatever? Fucking put? 1415 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 3: When you bench one? 1416 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 4: I just do one? 1417 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,519 Speaker 3: What do I bench? I'll bench like my max. I 1418 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 3: don't really like do the bench. I do like dumbbells. 1419 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 3: So my max with the dumbbells is like I'll do 1420 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 3: like two sixty pound dumbbells. That's like what one hundred 1421 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:40,480 Speaker 3: and twenty pounds? 1422 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's good. So do you do like max 1423 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 4: rap until you you equally can't do it and then 1424 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 4: you do another set and so you can't do. 1425 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,840 Speaker 3: It again something like that. It depends if I'm like 1426 01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 3: really into it, I'll like track all this shit. But 1427 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,880 Speaker 3: lately it's just going to the gym has becomeing like 1428 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 3: more of a casual thing. 1429 01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 4: I was. 1430 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 3: I was really I it was really good at like 1431 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 3: doing it like without fail three times a week, and 1432 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 3: then I got and then I and then I had 1433 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,760 Speaker 3: an existential crisis and I wondered what the point was. 1434 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 3: But now I'm back sort of, not really. I don't 1435 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 3: know why I. 1436 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 4: Said, hey, hey Low, uh, just so you know that 1437 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,000 Speaker 4: a lot of people care about you, so like we 1438 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:20,599 Speaker 4: look out for you. 1439 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 3: Well, thank thank you man, thank you. I'm trying to 1440 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,800 Speaker 3: look out for you. You're going to kill yourself if you 1441 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,559 Speaker 3: keep doing this. 1442 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,240 Speaker 4: No, no, I'm not going to kill myself. I know 1443 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 4: my limit. So it's like if my body notes went 1444 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 4: to quit, I'll quit. I'm not gonna like push myself 1445 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,880 Speaker 4: until like I pop at mc l or at L 1446 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 4: or something like that. Yeah, I don't want to do that. 1447 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, what's your name again, Mike, Mike. 1448 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,559 Speaker 4: Low. We've actually met, and we've actually met in the 1449 01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 4: Salt Lake Show before your last salt show. Yes, I 1450 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 4: brought my girlfriend with me and she was she was 1451 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,519 Speaker 4: the girl that mentioned about the chocolate covered cinnamon gummy bear. 1452 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember that, but yeah, we 1453 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 4: shook your hand with a pictures and you made our night. 1454 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,280 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you. Oh that's really nice. That's 1455 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,080 Speaker 3: really nice. And she mentioned the chocolate covered. 1456 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:18,519 Speaker 4: Gummy gummy bear. 1457 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,559 Speaker 3: You're not you're not eating that stuff. 1458 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,719 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm in a strict diet right now. 1459 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:26,800 Speaker 3: What do you eat? 1460 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 4: Uh? So, I've been really boring with my with my 1461 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 4: meal meals lately. I've been just doing, like I alternate 1462 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,920 Speaker 4: between like beef and chicken every other day with rice 1463 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 4: and then that's it. 1464 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 3: How long you've been doing that since last fall and 1465 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,000 Speaker 3: you're and you have no desire to eat something like 1466 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 3: a chocolate covered cinnamon gummy bear. Uh. 1467 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,560 Speaker 4: I do it at least like on the weekend sparingly, 1468 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 4: but most of the time. Yeah, I tried. I tried 1469 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 4: try to fight it. Remember like that, have you seen 1470 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 4: the movie, uh, Dodgeball, where like Ben Stiller almost got 1471 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,960 Speaker 4: that because like he was trying to pry his urge 1472 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,760 Speaker 4: to like eat the drumpstick. 1473 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like that. 1474 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm like at that moment right now, 1475 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,559 Speaker 4: but I'm yeah, my concentration is pretty good right now. 1476 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,599 Speaker 3: Oh, help me solve this mystery. Okay, help me solve 1477 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 3: this mystery. I go to the Blink Fitness, and at 1478 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:33,879 Speaker 3: the Blink Fitness they have for sale like these sour 1479 01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 3: rainbow belts. Yeah, and I thought first I was looking 1480 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 3: at them, and I was like, are these like this 1481 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 3: is like protein candy, and it's not. It's just regular 1482 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 3: ass sour belts. Is there any reason whatsoever from a 1483 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,759 Speaker 3: fitness perspective why you would want to eat that before 1484 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,760 Speaker 3: working out? 1485 01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 4: So I would not recommend you eating though us. I 1486 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 4: just do like the energy bars, any energy bars that's 1487 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,720 Speaker 4: like a little over like twenty grams of protein, and 1488 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,599 Speaker 4: then I would I would just eat that before the thing, yeah, 1489 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,679 Speaker 4: because like yeah, yeah. 1490 01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:21,200 Speaker 3: The the question is is is is there a reason 1491 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 3: why they sell that other than for people who have 1492 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,560 Speaker 3: given up on their way out of there? 1493 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,599 Speaker 4: It's pure marketing. I think it's just like, oh look, 1494 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 4: oh you're at a gym. Oh look what else we're 1495 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 4: selling here? Because like they're selling like other like uh 1496 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,599 Speaker 4: like weird stuff that you shouldn't be eating too. Yeah, 1497 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 4: because just like the gym that you just stated, Yeah, 1498 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,960 Speaker 4: I have a membership at that particular gym too, and 1499 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 4: yeah they do that ship too. 1500 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:53,080 Speaker 3: What's your take on bear Bell's protein bars. 1501 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 4: I actually love it. I highly recommend it. 1502 01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're awesome there, like, but here's my problem. I 1503 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 3: eat I think I Yeah, I eat one for breakfast 1504 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 3: every morning. I eat a Barebells protein bar that's that's good. 1505 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:06,920 Speaker 3: That's good. That's good. 1506 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:08,519 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's good. 1507 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,040 Speaker 3: But because I'm because because I'm eating it, and I'm like, 1508 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 3: this tastes like a candy bar. I'm I think I've 1509 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,280 Speaker 3: convinced myself that eating a candy bar for breakfast every 1510 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 3: morning is somehow not unhealthy. 1511 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 4: Like there's got to be a cat no, no, uh, 1512 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 4: it's no. U. Just like if you just stick to 1513 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,200 Speaker 4: like what you're doing right now, or you intermittently go 1514 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 4: to the gym when you feel like it, and then 1515 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:32,880 Speaker 4: you're still eating that in the morning, Yeah, I think 1516 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 4: you'll still be fine. But like from like the sound 1517 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 4: of like your previous episodes, you're just physically active every day. 1518 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,000 Speaker 4: I think you'll Yeah, you'll be fine. 1519 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm listening to you. You're lying 1520 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,080 Speaker 3: to me about fucking benching. 1521 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 2: You're lying. 1522 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,519 Speaker 4: I'm not You're gonna get You're gonna get your video tomorrow. 1523 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 3: What's your name again, Mike? Mike? I like you, my 1524 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 3: You're cool. 1525 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're cool. Guys. 1526 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 3: Everyone I talked to on the podcast today was was 1527 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 3: I enjoyed talking to? 1528 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,519 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I agree, especially that that lady that you 1529 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,599 Speaker 4: talked in the first half of this episode. Yeah, I 1530 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,520 Speaker 4: sortally enjoyed that part of the episode. 1531 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was cool. What else? What else? We got it? 1532 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,599 Speaker 3: Let's we can keep going for however long we want. 1533 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:32,120 Speaker 3: There's no thing, there's no yeah, go ahead, go ahead? 1534 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 4: Okay, So, uh what else? Oh and then there's another 1535 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:41,720 Speaker 4: thing I want to talk about? Okay? Yeah, so, uh 1536 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 4: so my act still pays for my uh my subscription 1537 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:52,439 Speaker 4: on like premium channels like Max and Paramount, And I 1538 01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,479 Speaker 4: still don't have the heart to like tell her that 1539 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,000 Speaker 4: I'm still using those accounts that she paid for. 1540 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna label that as 1541 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 3: a victimless crime. 1542 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 4: Oh really, well I love that. 1543 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,479 Speaker 3: Well, look, dude, I mean it's not it doesn't take away. 1544 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 3: It's not like she it's not like she. Are you 1545 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 3: at like the max amount of accounts that can be 1546 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 3: added to the thing? 1547 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 4: Uh yes? 1548 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:24,439 Speaker 3: Oh really yeah? 1549 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,120 Speaker 4: Like yeah, like my name is still on the account 1550 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,200 Speaker 4: like for this said use their name for all like 1551 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,800 Speaker 4: the Prime Video, the Paramount plus match Netflix. 1552 01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, her new her new guy is gonna be 1553 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:39,640 Speaker 3: like who the fuck is. 1554 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 4: Matt right exactly? 1555 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 3: What's your what's your icon on it? Uh? 1556 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 4: An alien like for one of them, and then like 1557 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,600 Speaker 4: I have the main guy from the Last of Us 1558 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,559 Speaker 4: from like Max, and like I have a random puppy 1559 01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 4: for my paramount. 1560 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 3: I'm gonna, I think gets I think. You know what, Look, 1561 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,559 Speaker 3: here's the thing. If you want to be Jesus Christ, 1562 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 3: right and some some people, uh, if you want to 1563 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:11,840 Speaker 3: be the like like Ned Flanders, like I commit. You know, 1564 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:17,080 Speaker 3: if you want to be a man of like complete, utter, unflinching, 1565 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 3: one hundred percent nobility, then yeah, then you could take 1566 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 3: yourself off of the HBO Max subscription. But yeah, you know, 1567 01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,160 Speaker 3: I I don't know if you're got nobody gets to 1568 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,200 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. If you're if you were gutting for 1569 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:38,639 Speaker 3: one hundred percent no noble Jesus Christ, run of life, 1570 01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,600 Speaker 3: then you would take you would take it off. But 1571 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:43,880 Speaker 3: nobody gets nobody does a hundred. 1572 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,639 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's kind of yeah, 1573 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,120 Speaker 4: because like every now and then, like uh, I would 1574 01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,840 Speaker 4: like switch user names on these asset apps, and I 1575 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,799 Speaker 4: would and I would notice like someone's been like watching 1576 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 4: like different stuff and I on my part of the 1577 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 4: channel too. I was like that's weird. I was like, 1578 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,679 Speaker 4: I haven't seen h Gilmore girls in a long time. 1579 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 4: I was like, I've never seen that shawe. 1580 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 2: I was like, what the heck? 1581 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,559 Speaker 4: I was like, why are they watching it on my account? 1582 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1583 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,960 Speaker 4: And then the weird part is like we split up 1584 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,439 Speaker 4: like almost two and a half years ago. 1585 01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 3: Oh oh oh it's been two and a half years. Yeah, 1586 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 3: well yeah, let her let her kick you off? 1587 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, who who? 1588 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,679 Speaker 3: Who broke it off? She did? 1589 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:38,639 Speaker 1: She did? 1590 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,640 Speaker 3: Is that part of what inspired you to train to 1591 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 3: uh squat four of you? 1592 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,640 Speaker 4: Actually? Yeah, I just yeah, I was like not in 1593 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:56,280 Speaker 4: a good shape when we broke up, and then now 1594 01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,600 Speaker 4: I'm in a better shape, Like I feel I like 1595 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,559 Speaker 4: this version of me versus the version of me two 1596 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:05,479 Speaker 4: and a half years ago. 1597 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 3: Wait, so was that was that? This is not the 1598 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 3: same woman that I met in Salt Lake City? 1599 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,639 Speaker 4: No, No, that was my new girlfriend? 1600 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well yeah your ex girlfriend? Fucking she definitely 1601 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 3: she definitely sold low on that shack. 1602 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:31,080 Speaker 4: Oh definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And then yeah she's still Yeah, 1603 01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,880 Speaker 4: she's still working a pretty bad job. So I'm kind 1604 01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,800 Speaker 4: of happy that I'm in a better place now than 1605 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 4: she is now. 1606 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,600 Speaker 3: I don't believe you at all. I don't believe for 1607 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 3: a second. Then you know I don't, and you know 1608 01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,000 Speaker 3: what the thing is. I guess, Yeah, next, I guess 1609 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 3: on the next podcast. I'll have to mention at some 1610 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:55,080 Speaker 3: point whether or not because I'm expecting you to send 1611 01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 3: me these videos. 1612 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're getting one tomorrow. 1613 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:03,519 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I mean I don't I yeah, okay, 1614 01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:08,440 Speaker 3: I'll try to remember to check the phone line. 1615 01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:10,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll send it to your Instagram page. 1616 01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,599 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, do that, I check that more. 1617 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:20,480 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'll do that, all right, Matt. 1618 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 3: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1619 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 3: people of the computer before we go? 1620 01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 4: Uh, pigeons aren't real. 1621 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,599 Speaker 3: You're telling me I can eat a bare Bells protein 1622 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,240 Speaker 3: bar and drink of Celsius every day for the rest 1623 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,160 Speaker 3: of my life and it's not unhealthy. 1624 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:36,800 Speaker 4: Yes, that's track. 1625 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,599 Speaker 3: Please let me look you go ahead, go ahead, you look. 1626 01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,240 Speaker 4: You look better now than you did when I first 1627 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,519 Speaker 4: started watching you. So well, you're doing something good in 1628 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:49,920 Speaker 4: your life. 1629 01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 3: Well hold on, Well, I I lost weight and I'm 1630 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,080 Speaker 3: continuing to lose well, I'm I'm I fell off a 1631 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 3: lot of my habits, but I did lose weight. But 1632 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 3: even though I lost weight, I don't know if that's 1633 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,479 Speaker 3: I don't know if losing weight is the same as 1634 01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:11,000 Speaker 3: being healthy because you can eat only twinkies for a 1635 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,040 Speaker 3: month and you will lose weight. 1636 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:20,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there's there's so So the thing with weight 1637 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 4: loss is just like it's literally what you do on 1638 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:30,200 Speaker 4: top of it. It's what's very beneficial for you. Like 1639 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 4: even if you don't think you you don't feel like 1640 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:37,360 Speaker 4: you're progressing in your in your physical house right now, 1641 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,560 Speaker 4: but like if everyone can notice that you like physically 1642 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,040 Speaker 4: changed and you're doing something good about your your physical 1643 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,080 Speaker 4: workout right now. 1644 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna only eat cosmic brownies for a month. 1645 01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,320 Speaker 3: Those are so you know how many fuck guess many 1646 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 3: fucking calories is in a cosmic brownie? 1647 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:55,439 Speaker 1: Dude? 1648 01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,599 Speaker 4: Uh isn't it like uh like fifteen hundred? 1649 01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,400 Speaker 3: It's like five fifteen hundred. That's crazy? Is what is 1650 01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,320 Speaker 3: up with you and your numbers? You have aut landish? 1651 01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,000 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I just my my brain is full 1652 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:15,240 Speaker 4: of like useless sacks. So it's just like it's yeah, yeah, 1653 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 4: I'm crazy like that with numbers. 1654 01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 3: Five hundred and ten, Dude. Five isn't that fucking bullshit? 1655 01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:25,880 Speaker 3: Five hundred and ten calories for a for for for 1656 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, ten seconds of joy? 1657 01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:34,479 Speaker 4: Man, you eat it that quick? That's crazy. 1658 01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,320 Speaker 3: I've never tied myself. But all right, I'll tell you what. 1659 01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,120 Speaker 3: You send me a picture of you doing a five 1660 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,000 Speaker 3: hundred and forty pounds squat in a two hundred and 1661 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:43,720 Speaker 3: fifty pound bench, and I'll send you a video of 1662 01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:51,160 Speaker 3: me eating a five hundred and ten calorie cosmic brownie. Deal, Matt, 1663 01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:52,240 Speaker 3: is there anything else you want to say to the 1664 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,360 Speaker 3: people the computer before we go? 1665 01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:01,960 Speaker 4: Be kind? H justick care of yourself and I'm glad 1666 01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,280 Speaker 4: you're doing better now. 1667 01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,880 Speaker 3: Thank you, man, Good luck, God bless you your beautiful soul. 1668 01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,639 Speaker 3: I'm around this. I'll see you around the universe. God, 1669 01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,880 Speaker 3: good there's I'm you. Hold on, I'm gonna keep you. Okay. 1670 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 3: First of all, First of all, first of all, I 1671 01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,280 Speaker 3: didn't mean. First of all, whenever I say God bless 1672 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 3: you to someone, I don't mean like the Christian God. Okay, 1673 01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,920 Speaker 3: even if I did, that's an asshole thing to say 1674 01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,040 Speaker 3: to someone when they say God bless you. It's an 1675 01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,320 Speaker 3: asshole thing to say to someone when they say God 1676 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,800 Speaker 3: bless you. I don't believe it because when someone says God, 1677 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 3: bless you. They're trying to be nice, They're trying to 1678 01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,160 Speaker 3: they just they really just mean have a good day. 1679 01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,320 Speaker 3: And then when you say I don't believe in God, 1680 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,760 Speaker 3: you kind of be an asshole. But I also I 1681 01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,000 Speaker 3: don't really, I don't mean, I don't know. I don't 1682 01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,080 Speaker 3: I don't believe in God. I don't believe in like 1683 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,080 Speaker 3: Christian God either. I believe in like higher power ship. 1684 01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,800 Speaker 3: I think you can mar yeah, yeah, but like that's 1685 01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:08,680 Speaker 3: what God. Yeah, but but but that's what God means, 1686 01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,760 Speaker 3: you know, it just means higher power. It doesn't necessarily 1687 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,760 Speaker 3: mean like the God that you grew up with when 1688 01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,920 Speaker 3: you were going to church and ship. You know. Yeah, 1689 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,960 Speaker 3: so what so may the higher may, whatever controls the 1690 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:27,880 Speaker 3: flow of the universe be that, even not a higher power, 1691 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,960 Speaker 3: be that even you. May whatever that force is, even 1692 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,960 Speaker 3: if that force is literally you and your brain and 1693 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:38,840 Speaker 3: your actions, you being God, May God bless you, May 1694 01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 3: you bless you? You know what I mean? 1695 01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 4: Well, is this what it feels like being blessed by 1696 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:49,719 Speaker 4: the gekker right now? Do you believe I do believe 1697 01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:50,160 Speaker 4: in the Gecko? 1698 01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,120 Speaker 3: I just that because I've been saying God bless you 1699 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,640 Speaker 3: to people, and I don't know why, but that's what 1700 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 3: I mean when I say it, I think when it 1701 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:02,720 Speaker 3: comes out of my. 1702 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,479 Speaker 4: Ask you about that. I've always wanted to ask you 1703 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,920 Speaker 4: about that. It's just like, I don't know if he's 1704 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,880 Speaker 4: like real because I know you're Jewish. So it's just like. 1705 01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:15,960 Speaker 3: I grew up I culturally, I grew up culturally Jewish, 1706 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,720 Speaker 3: but I don't like, I don't like, I don't know 1707 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,720 Speaker 3: what the toll rest. I don't even think, but I 1708 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:25,440 Speaker 3: don't think most Jews know what like it doesn't Judaism 1709 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 3: has no effect on my spiritual views of life in 1710 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,000 Speaker 3: the universe. It's just you know, I like, I like 1711 01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:35,679 Speaker 3: eating matza. 1712 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:39,679 Speaker 4: I haven't had matsa in a long time. 1713 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,000 Speaker 3: But no, I don't mean like a Christian. I don't 1714 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,120 Speaker 3: mean like a Christian. I don't mean like a Christian 1715 01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:51,640 Speaker 3: made Jesus Christ as we understand that to be. You know, 1716 01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:57,679 Speaker 3: it just means, you know, whatever I guess I explained it. Well, 1717 01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,000 Speaker 3: it's just a higher power. That's not even when I 1718 01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,639 Speaker 3: you know what, you know what it really is. Actually 1719 01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:03,519 Speaker 3: it's not even any of that stuff. It's just you 1720 01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:08,720 Speaker 3: know what it really is. I just needed something to say. Oh, 1721 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,080 Speaker 3: that's what it really is. It just means by it 1722 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,960 Speaker 3: just it just makes It's just words. It means nothing. 1723 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:16,960 Speaker 3: It doesn't even mean any of the stuff I said 1724 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:21,559 Speaker 3: about you being God. It's just saying more words because 1725 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,240 Speaker 3: we're in a conversation, and when you're in a conversation, 1726 01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 3: you have to say words for there to be a conversation. 1727 01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,040 Speaker 3: That's what it means when I say cared bless you. 1728 01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:32,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, if you put down a T shirt, I'd 1729 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:33,559 Speaker 4: totally buy it. 1730 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,720 Speaker 3: Matt God bless you. Send me that video of you 1731 01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:43,920 Speaker 3: lifting one hundred and whatever pounds and I may never 1732 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,439 Speaker 3: talk to you ever again. But if that is the case, 1733 01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,599 Speaker 3: I enjoyed the period of time that we did get 1734 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 3: to talk. 1735 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:55,920 Speaker 4: I I I concur have a good name Matte that. 1736 01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,280 Speaker 3: I liked Matt, that was cool. I liked everyone we 1737 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 3: talked to today. What a great episode of the podcast. 1738 01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:04,640 Speaker 3: Thank you to everyone who listens to this. This is 1739 01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:08,160 Speaker 3: a fun episode of the podcast. Sometimes sometimes we just 1740 01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,599 Speaker 3: do an episode and I'm like, wow, I felt great. 1741 01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,639 Speaker 3: The correlation is always it's always about how much caffeine 1742 01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:19,200 Speaker 3: I induce I ingested before recording. It makes me feel 1743 01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:24,240 Speaker 3: like myself, like chemically. I know it's not. It feels 1744 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,320 Speaker 3: weird to like need a substance to be yourself, but 1745 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:32,280 Speaker 3: I really do feel like myself. I felt I loved 1746 01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,840 Speaker 3: the version of myself that I was for the entire 1747 01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:40,200 Speaker 3: duration of this episode. And the reason for that is 1748 01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,960 Speaker 3: because I drank a diet Mountain Dew, which has ninety 1749 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:46,800 Speaker 3: one milligrams of caffeine. I could keep talking. Sometimes by 1750 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,760 Speaker 3: the end of doing this, like I'm exhausted and I 1751 01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,400 Speaker 3: lie on the floor. But today I'm like, I could 1752 01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:59,320 Speaker 3: just keep talking. I feel good. This was nice. I'm 1753 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,639 Speaker 3: gonna cut my line. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna 1754 01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,040 Speaker 3: quit while we're hot. Thank you for listening to the 1755 01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:08,120 Speaker 3: Therapy Echo podcast. I really mean it. I'm honored. Thanks 1756 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,880 Speaker 3: for sitting through the ads or skipping through them. Thanks 1757 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:18,640 Speaker 3: for dealing with it, Thanks for listening, Thanks for commenting. 1758 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,800 Speaker 3: If you comment, I read all the Spotify and the 1759 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:26,519 Speaker 3: YouTube comments because I'm crazy. This was nice, this was good. 1760 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:30,080 Speaker 3: I enjoyed doing this. This was this was this was 1761 01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:35,120 Speaker 3: this felt fun to do, and I felt honored to 1762 01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:38,200 Speaker 3: be able to do it today. So thank you for listening. 1763 01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,519 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go calm down. I need to calm down. 1764 01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:46,719 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go calm down. God bless you. I guess 1765 01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,599 Speaker 3: whatever the fuck I mean when I say that, I'm glad. 1766 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,960 Speaker 3: I got to clear that up. And uh, I'm gonna 1767 01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,120 Speaker 3: go eat something. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go eat 1768 01:37:56,120 --> 01:38:00,240 Speaker 3: a fucking sandwich and watch TV and feel honored. I'm 1769 01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,960 Speaker 3: gonna go eat a sandwich and watch a YouTube video 1770 01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:08,960 Speaker 3: about Luigi and about like ten Luigi facts or whatever 1771 01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,760 Speaker 3: the fuck, and I'm gonna feel honored that I get 1772 01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 3: to live today to do that, all right. Gecko out 1773 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:23,519 Speaker 3: goes on the line taking your phone calls every night. 1774 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,840 Speaker 5: Never Beacon goes to his ride. 1775 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:26,600 Speaker 1: He's teaching you 1776 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,120 Speaker 2: A loud in them of your life, but he's not 1777 01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:30,640 Speaker 2: really an expert.