1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another edition of Club Sha Share. I 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: am your host and proprietor, and guys, I'm super excited 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: to have this guy for a conversation and a drink 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: at Club Sha Share today. He really doesn't need any introduction, 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try anyway because this bear with me. 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: He had a twenty two year MLB career. He was 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: a thirteen time All Star. He was a ten time 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Gold Glove winner. He won the nineteen ninety seven al MVP. 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: He led the L and RBIs in nineteen ninety seven. 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: He was a four time ALE home run leader six 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty career home runs seventh on the all 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: time list. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: a member of the MLB All Century Team. Ken Griffy Junior. 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, pack Price, 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: one slice, got the brown swat all my life. I've 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: been grinding all my life, all my life, and grinding 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: all my life, sacrifice, hustle, Peggy Prices, one slice swap 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: all my life. I've been running in all my life. Griffy, 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: what's up? Brona man? How you doing? I'm good man? 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: I love that backdrop. Do you do you have them 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: all in there? Yes? But okay, Uh, when we built 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: this house, there's only room for nine. So I put 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: my very first one up top. Uh he left out, 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: he left no no, no, no, no, no no no, 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: see him right there? Yeah, all right, and uh see 26 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: what happened was and I'm not good. Nah. Uh. We 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: didn't realize how tall they were, right, you know. When 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: I first got my first one, I opened it up, 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: and then the other like nine, I kept in the 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: box because we were in between moving. And then uh, 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: I said, all right, what we're gonna do is put 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: them in a display case. But then it got too 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: big and then it looked like the you know, the 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: the the wall unit at eight Dallas. So I was like, 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: let's drink it down. And so my wife made sure 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: everything was fine and she put everything together and I 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: was like, all right, that's perfect, except we're missing one. 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: And she was like, what, I go the one, and 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: so we put it out the top. It's because people 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: want to look at it and really get close to 41 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: it and sometimes touch it. So they can touch it. 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: So do you have all your memorabil your stored in 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: your office? So you have a place through it you 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: can see like your silver slug awards, your your RBI type. 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Do you have all that stuff? No, uh, it's uh, 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: we have some down to storage, you know. But for 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: the most part, you know, my dad wasn't a very 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: big collector and half stuff showing because you know, it 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: was his job. So they dedicated one room for me, 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: and it happened to be in my office with a 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: door closed. But I got some stuff downstairs, you hie, 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: I got some stuff downstairs. I got the Jackie Robinson jersey. 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: I got my jersey where I war forty two for 54 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: the first time in ninety seven and the Reds forty two. 55 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I try to have some history of 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: of you know, all sports. My wife's favorite two football 57 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: players are Derek Thomas right and and Sue. And I 58 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: was like, how did you get suited? He was like 59 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: he just mean. I was like, he feel opposite to me. Yeah. 60 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: I was like, he's so nice, but you see him 61 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: off the field, and she was like, I know that's 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: why I like him. I'm like Griffin as I'm reading 63 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: off those numbers, the twenty two years, the all start 64 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: the gold Globe, what are you most proud of one? 65 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Am I most proud of probably longevity, you know. And 66 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, when I was growing up, my dad was like, hey, 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: there's two sides of the ball, offensive, defense, right, and 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: you gotta play both. The guys who played both are 69 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: gonna be there for a while. You don't want to 70 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: be the guy that you know as a flash of hand, 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, you know, all of a sudden, he's got 72 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: two years and you're like, where's he going or where's 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: he been? Uh So I take for me, I probably 74 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: take more pride to my my defense than my offense, 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: only because defense you could show more excitement. You know, 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: sometimes we don't see the excitement. I mean there's a 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: I tell everybody there's a fine line between excitement and 78 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: showing somebody else right, And and they don't understand that. 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: You know. You see the kids now, they you know, 80 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: they do certain things and they take itself. They're throwing 81 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: the bad out of the camera. You nah. You know 82 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: we used to getting drilled for that. You know. I 83 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: was talking. I was talking to Wade Boggs one year 84 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: and he was like, hey man, how many times you 85 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: get hit? I was like, I don't know. So he 86 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: looked at the numbers. He got hit like twenty two 87 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: times in eight U and twenty two years. I got 88 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: hit eighty two times. I was like, that ain't fair. 89 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: So you said you you took more pride in your 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: defense than your offense. But you have some injuries because 91 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: you were crashing into the wall into the kingdom. If 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: you had it to do over again, would you change 93 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: anything about the way you played? You might have got 94 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: twenty two twenty five years now, because then people wouldn't 95 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: respect how I played okay, And I think that's the 96 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: thing is when you get hurt on the field doing 97 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: something that you love, and you know that injuries are 98 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: part of the game, you don't sign up going. I 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: hope I don't get hurt. Right. You see this day 100 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: in and day out, especially in your sport. You know, 101 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: you see a day and day out, you know. But 102 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: for me as a center fielder, it's one of those 103 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: things I got about a twelve year self life. If 104 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: you look at the greatest seting fielders of all time, 105 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: after about twelve thirteen years, they sort of breakdown and 106 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: because everything hit to them is fair. And we have 107 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: this mechanism that says it's either me or the ball, 108 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: and I want to win, you know. And if you 109 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: run into a wall, you just run into a wall. 110 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: You can't be Oh, what if player? What if I 111 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: would have not ran? What if I wouldn't have done this? 112 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: What if I wouldn't have done that? Would I still 113 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: have this? Would I still have that? Then people on 114 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: the stand scuff, well, he's not hustling, he's not doing it, 115 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: you know. And and I never you've never heard that. 116 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: They just wish that I wouldn't have done those things. 117 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: That's the opposite. I wish she would have made more catches. No, no, no, no, 118 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: we wish she woldn'a ran in the walls. We wish 119 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have done that. And that's the thing is, 120 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: that's what I take pride in it. Let people know 121 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: that when they came there, I was gonna give him all. 122 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: When when I read these numbers to six thirty or 123 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: the All Century team? Is there something you wish you 124 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: could act? Like? Man? You know what, I wish I 125 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: had a little more stolen bases or I would have 126 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: had are do you what? What? What would you add? Nothing? No? 127 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: Because you got everything out in twenty two years, you 128 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: got everything Ken Griffin Junior could have gotten out of 129 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: MLB yep, because it's not about MLB. What can they 130 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: do for me? I went out there to play. I 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: went out there to try to win a championship. It 132 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: never happened, but I went out there and busting my 133 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: butt every day. You know, think about this. I only 134 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: went down one time, right like going to rehab of 135 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: stand and that was one day. I actually went down 136 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: to Tacoma, drove to Tacoma, took three AD bats. Now 137 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: I have a plate in nine screws in my wrist. 138 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: I take three AD bats. I actually fly myself to Minnesota. 139 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: The team has no idea that I'm there. I show 140 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: up at the ballpark. They look at me like what 141 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: you do? I said, I'm ready. They was like, what 142 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: are you supposed to play today? I was like, yeah, 143 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: I was, but I'm gonna play. And then he said 144 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Lou looked at me, said I can't put you down, 145 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: but tomorrow you in the line up. And that's the 146 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: way I am. I mean, I have this thing that 147 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: you know as my name on the back is my career. 148 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you everything I have. And you know, 149 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: the one thing about me is if you see somebody 150 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: mad as a kid and you're a bully, what do 151 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: you keep doing? You keep doing it right, whatever you're doing. 152 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: So I didn't show any emotion other than laughter because 153 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, my dad never showed any My 154 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: dad was like, hey, nobody has to see you mad. 155 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: You come home and be mad all you want, but 156 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: don't do it at the ballpark because people can see that. 157 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: And you know, they said that I didn't, I didn't 158 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: work hard. I start laughing because it's really, you know, 159 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: you don't stay on the top of your game for 160 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: as long as I did, not working right, you know, 161 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: And because because they didn't see you, because you know, 162 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean, especially now everybody's posting something, they're posting their 163 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: workout on ig or they're talking about this. It was 164 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: that because I guess people thought you were just so 165 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: talented because you, I mean, you played with your dad. 166 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you're nineteen years old and you're in and 167 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: you're in the majors, and they, well, we didn't see it. 168 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: So he's just God gifted. He don't he's not working. 169 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: God just blessed him with that talent, and that's it. No. 170 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: I used to I'd ride my bike at two am. 171 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Okay uh, and it would be a A one three wet. 172 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Then I would wear a sweatsuit over top of that 173 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: in a hat and I'd ride fifteen miles in my neighborhood. 174 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: I had mapped it out. Here's the crazy thing that 175 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: I am that I do is I map out my 176 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: routes in the car first, Like I'm like, okay, I 177 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: can go here about blob checking streets. But you know, 178 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: my dad never he's nobody needs to see you work out. 179 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: The people that need to promote you are other people. 180 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: You don't need to promote yourself. And that's the mentality 181 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: that I had, is I don't want to talk about me. 182 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: We could talk about anybody else, but you want to 183 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: talk about me, and I clam up. And it's only 184 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: because I grew up in the household when my dad 185 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: didn't come home talking about him. Look what I did, 186 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't realize my dad was a major 187 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: league ball player actually until like the eighth grade, when 188 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: I had a Yankee starter jacket on and the kid 189 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: came up to me it was like your dad placed 190 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: for Yankee. I was like yeah, like thinking that, you know, 191 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: everybody's dad had that type of you know, father, they 192 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: did something that they love to do. And you know, 193 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: I didn't really understand because he never came home and 194 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, baseball. It was always what did 195 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: we want to do as a kid, And that's how 196 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I grew up. So when I you know, I teach 197 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: my kids the same way because you know, you try 198 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: to make them as normal as possible. I know it's 199 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: a different world and things are different, and you know, 200 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: news travels faster than you know when we were growing up. 201 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: But I just said, hey, you know it worked. You know, 202 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: you ain't got to promote yourself. That's somebody else's job. 203 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Did Did your father push you towards baseball? Or was 204 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: something because he did it and you wanted you saw 205 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: and you saw what he did, even though you said 206 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: it was later that he was You noticed that he 207 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: was an MLB player. Was it something that he pushed 208 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: you towards? Because you're like, you know what, I think 209 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: I could be good at this. Nah, My brother played 210 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: at Ohio State football. My uncle's uh got a one 211 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: of my cousins, Darryl. He broke Tony the Dorsets high 212 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: school rushing records. Okay, I was born and a half 213 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: an hour from Pittsburgh. You know, we are die hard 214 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: football family. We didn't cover your daddy played. I'm like, 215 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, uh yeah, okay, but it didn't. You know. 216 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: He was like, whatever you want to do, it's up 217 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: to you. It's not my life. As sure. When I 218 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: came to him when I was fourteen, said I want 219 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: to play play baseball, he said, okay, here's the things 220 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. And you know when they say that, 221 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: you know. The advantage that I had growing up is 222 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: that I could during spring training, which was the only 223 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: real time that I was with my dad on the 224 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: field on the Backfield's not the main field, but the 225 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: backfield because he was early hitting and stuff. I would 226 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: go shag. So I understood what routes to take at 227 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: fourteen to go catch a fly ball from a major 228 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: league fly ball. So at fourteen fifteen, I could have 229 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: played in the big leagues defensively because I knew. So 230 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: that's the advantage I had. Now I still had to 231 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: learn how to hit from go from aluminum basket of 232 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: wooden bass. You know, my I had a day where 233 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: my dad flew in, I had an off day. They 234 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, and here's how you know. Most coaches were like, hey, 235 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were here. I'll give you you know, 236 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna we'll switch. Your son is gonna play, and 237 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: you can see your son. I know that you're still playing. 238 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: Here's off day. He was like. My dad was like, no, whatever, 239 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: you the coach. So I end up coming in to 240 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: pinch hit. Now. He just gave me two dozen brand 241 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: new bats. Okay, I broke four of them on that 242 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: one plate appearance. He just looked at me and sugar 243 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: and I grounded back to the picture and he was 244 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: like in the stands, going like this, I just gave 245 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: you four new bats and you broke I mean twenty 246 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: four bats and you broke four of them. I broke 247 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: eighty bats in my first year playing pro ball. What 248 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: what what did that have to do? I mean, why 249 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: were you breaking so many bats? Because I was aluminum 250 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: back the barrel like this, wooden battered barrel like that. 251 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: So so you're just not knowing how to swing. You know, 252 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: would a wooden back you know, it's the adjustments that 253 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: for you guys, you know, the speed of the game. 254 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: We have guys in high Scholl that throw ninety ninety 255 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: five and stuff like that. So the speed of the game, 256 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: if you can catch up to those guys and they 257 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: can see it, you're gonna be fine. But you guys 258 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: have that that you know from college to pro that 259 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: little bits of learning curve right, And that's what it 260 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: is for you guys to the speed of the game. 261 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: For me, it's learning how to hit with wooden bats. 262 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: Was it difficult having Obviously it worked to your advantage because, 263 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: as you said, you got an opportunity to go shack 264 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: fly balls on the backfield, on the back and the 265 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: back diamonds, and you got an opportunity to track the baseball, 266 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: so you were catching fly balls from major leaguers. But 267 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: how difficult was it having a father? And the comparison 268 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: is gonna come, whether you or he placed them on 269 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: you or not, they're going to come. My dad never 270 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: put in any comparisons he did. And that's the one 271 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: thing like that I made sure that I did at 272 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: my house is I didn't compare anybody's records and what 273 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: they did or what my dad did and things like that. 274 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, uh, in fact, pressure no, I mean no, 275 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean you know, because outside pressure, if if if 276 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm not putting on If I'm not, if my parents 277 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: are not putting any pressure on me, somebody outside my 278 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: four walls, they can't say nothing about me, you know, 279 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: if I came home and that's how I feel. You know, 280 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: I tell my kids all the time, and they understand 281 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: that pressure is only something you put on yourself because 282 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: outside influence. If I'm not putting any pressure on you, 283 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, then then and your mom or your brothers 284 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: and sisters, then you can feel pressure when we're doing that. 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: But other than that, I wouldn't let any I'd be 286 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: over there like this because it wasn't it's not you know, 287 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time with you know, 288 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: MJ's kids, right you know U I said, you know 289 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: that there's going to be the comparisons. You know, they 290 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: can only compare uh me and you you know my 291 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: dad and mean trade me Teving and me, uh not 292 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: so much. Girls and you know tearing she got a 293 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: pass because it's girls, you know, college basketball. But but 294 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: she's pretty athletic, okay, really athletics, so it wasn't really 295 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: you know they you know, all they say is that's 296 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: King Griffe Junior's daughter right now. But when it comes 297 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: to being you know, the Testostrom sports. You know they 298 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: got they got to throw comparisons that which is it's 299 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: wrong because if I tell everybody you know, my name 300 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: is Joe Smith, nobody would you know said anything, Well 301 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: that's Joe Smith's not okay who Joe Smith us a kid? Okay, 302 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: go watch him play. I mean there was a kid. 303 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: There was a funny because when Trey was getting recruited, 304 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: h Northwestern came down and said, uh, well he went 305 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: up to Northwestern and he said guy said. Coach said, ah, 306 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: I would offer you, but you need you got it. 307 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: You should have been ten pounds heavy, yer. And so 308 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: I started laughing because he came home and he told me. 309 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, no, he just saying that 310 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: just to blow smoke. And so Trey came home after football, 311 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: uh because the doctor Phillips was in the playoffs and 312 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: the guy was like he was helping out with the 313 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: football team and coach was like the same. Coach was like, man, 314 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: who is that? That's how can you didn't send me him? 315 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: He was like that's who we tried to send you 316 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: last year, but you didn't offer him because he needed 317 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: to be ten pounds heavier, right, So you know we 318 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: start laughing because you know they say, you know, the 319 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: mind game of coaches and some of the things that 320 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: they say are you know, can destroy some of these kids. 321 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: And it's tough because you know, I never caught a football, right, 322 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, from trades quarterback. I never handed the ball. 323 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: I got handed the ball off. It's all that. The 324 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: only thing that I've done as a dad was get 325 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: him to a place where, you know, if he wanted 326 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,479 Speaker 1: to play, to get him the necessary tools to be successful, 327 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: whether that's using you know Thurman's Thomas and Ricky Waters 328 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: when they were here. I got Devin Hester who lives 329 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: around the corner. All these guys, you know, they more 330 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: and what And when it comes to baseball, the same thing. 331 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Lope Army calls me all the time, right, you know, 332 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: trying to get kids to to to be you know, 333 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: I live my dream is now. I don't my turn 334 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: to give back and help these kids live there. But 335 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to my kids, you know, they compare 336 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: me and I just go it ain't fair. Because one 337 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: one of the parents was like, uh, what do you say? 338 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: They were talking him and a coach and coach goes, well, 339 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: how can he done and play baseball? And he goes, well, 340 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: he's not his dad. And so I happened to walk by, 341 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: said well, tell me five people who are and I 342 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: said I'll wait, and he couldn't because he was like, 343 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: because you know, it's unfair expectations that we put on 344 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: your kids all the time. Time. And then whether it's 345 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: my kids or any other kids, uh, you know, some 346 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: of these kids want to play football, basketball, baseball. They 347 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: want to be out there with their friends. Uh. Some 348 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: know that they may not turn pro and want to 349 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: do other things. Some kids but like, you know what, 350 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: I'm just doing this to go to go to to 351 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: get my degree, right, get a free education. That was 352 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: the thing for me. Ken that I have a son, 353 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: and he went totally away. He didn't play sports because 354 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: every time he dropped the pass, they said, well, your 355 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: dad would have call that, or your uncle would have 356 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: call that or and because and he didn't want that, 357 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: he didn't. He just got and I you know, and 358 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: I you know, and I let my kids have their 359 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: own life. I really tried to, like if I showed up, 360 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: I tried to stay in the back, but they would 361 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: enable to be find out who I was, and it's like, 362 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: that's your dad, Well why aren't you better? And he 363 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: was just like, you know what, Dad, I just I 364 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: want I don't I don't want to do it. I 365 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: just want to, you know, go to school, go to college, 366 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: get a degree, and live my life. Yeah, and you. 367 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: And it's bad because some of the people that are 368 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: doing this are people who are number one, jealous and 369 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: frustrated ball players who have never had an opportunity to 370 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: be successful. And the only person they can take it 371 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: out on is your kid and that right, you know. 372 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 1: I'm like I look at people like that, like, man, 373 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: you up there, dog in a twelve year old and 374 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, and so I do. Like the one thing 375 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: about me is like when my kids play baseball, i'd 376 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: be down in the right field line three hundred and 377 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: forty feet away, tucked around the corner, you know. And 378 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: I had a lady come up to me one time. 379 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, how come you and I coach? 380 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: And I said, well, number one, I'm underqualified for this position. 381 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: Just trying to make it easy, like, you know, let 382 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: me underqualified to it. And she was like, I just 383 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: think it's a waste of talent and then I got 384 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: mad because I was like, Oh, he's just not gonna 385 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: say that. He's just not gonna do that to me. 386 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: And I did tell her that her kid was terrible, 387 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: but but it wasn't like I was trying to be mean. 388 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: It was just like, Hey, I'm I'm a normal dad. 389 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: Just want to watch his son play. You know I'm 390 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: out here because I know who I am. But I 391 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: don't want to add to all the pressure of all 392 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: the parents looking at me, looking at him. I said, 393 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: he just wants to play and run around and be 394 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: with his friends. I said, man, that's all this stuff is. 395 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: I said, are we are we trying to build national 396 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: championships at at age twelve? Are we trying to get 397 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: these kids to build confidence to be young adults in 398 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: this world? So didn't make you nervous when your dad 399 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: came to watch you play? Because for me, when my 400 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: brother came, I was gonna turn it out basketball. I 401 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: was gonna drop thirty or forty. They don't track and field. 402 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna have my best days. But my sister. 403 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't perform in front of my sister because all 404 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: of her friends had told her living, unity, go see 405 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: your brother your brother had this many points dunk on everybody, 406 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: and the moment I saw airball city turn over the city, 407 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: I just couldn't perform. It didn't make you nervous performing 408 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: in front of your dad, Okay, yes, because he wasn't there. 409 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: You know all the time. You know, my dad's working 410 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: on Saturday, you know, So when he did show up. 411 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: I remember my senior year, he was Atlanta was in 412 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: town and he was playing. He's playing the Reds and 413 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: he was with Alanta. He comes, see me play the 414 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: first two at bats, I'm over two with two strikeouts. 415 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: So after the game I get in a car drive 416 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: down there to see him. He was like, wait, how'd 417 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: you do? I set up three for five, two hoo 418 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: runs in a double. He was like, you can't do 419 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: that in front of me. So so my first actual 420 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: hit with him there was in instructional league, my first 421 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: professional hit. He was in left center behind the fence 422 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: in an RV and I knew and I knew the 423 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: RV because you know, you know, I hello was at 424 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: my house all blah life. So I finally get a 425 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: hit and he slides the window and yells at me, 426 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: was that so bad? And then closed it. But for 427 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: years he would say, hey, man, just pretend I'm your mom, 428 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: because when my mom came, oh, he would showed out, Dad, 429 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: show up. I had one of my high school coach say, 430 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: don't even come visit. He can't hit in front of you. 431 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: So you want to be at you tell you dad 432 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: at fourteen, I want to be a baseball player. And 433 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: he give give you the obviously you bless you with ability, 434 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: but he provides the tools and the instructions that you 435 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: need you get to your senior year. Did you know 436 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: you were going to be the number one overall selection 437 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: in the draft? I knew in December that I was close. Right. 438 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: Bobby Tolin, who was a friend of the family, came 439 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: up and in the town. We were in Cincinnati, and 440 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: he's walking out the house. He goes, well, you know, 441 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: we're thinking about drafting you number one, And I said who. 442 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: He said, Seattle. And I happened to look at my 443 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: dad and said, Dad, where is Seattle? Because he was like, 444 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: because you know when you when, because you don't go 445 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: nowhere as a kid, So like, okay, he played for 446 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: the Yankees, he played for Atlanta, he played for Cincinnati. 447 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: That's as far as my region went and we went 448 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: to Disney World in Tampa and Port Lott of deal. Yeah, 449 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: that's it. That was our screen training and that was 450 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: anywhere else. I was like, I had no idea. So 451 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: I had a coup on the map, and uh, we 452 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: got some things done. And two days before the draft, 453 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: they started really calling and saying, hey, you know, we're 454 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: thinking about taking you number one. Are you gonna sign? 455 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: And my dad looked at me and he said, hey, 456 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: you can go number one, or the Pirates are gonna 457 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: take you, to the Braids are gonna take you, and 458 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's gonna take you. And I looked at him, said 459 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to go number one, right And he says, 460 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: why is that? I said, because not everybody could say 461 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: they went one right. They could say they was the 462 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: first round pick, but they can't say they was one 463 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: on one. And he said okay. And from that point on, 464 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, two day before the draft, we signed the 465 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: next day, and then we had the actual draft, and 466 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: then I graduated. No, my brother, yeah, my brother graduated 467 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: from high school. I graduated my school. Me I graduated 468 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: high school, and then uh, I was down in the 469 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: I was down in Atlanta for a couple of days 470 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: and Willie Stargell helped me out my footwork. And everybody 471 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: thinks that Willie starge was an outfield I mean at 472 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: first basement, but he played outfield, so he's like, come on, 473 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: young buck, and he took me out an outfield for 474 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: like an hour and a half with no baseballs. All 475 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: we did was work on footwork. At seventeen, you kind 476 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: of mad, you like, come on, can I get some ball? 477 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: So that means he'd be like, nah, we're gonna work 478 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: on only footwork. And that's what really helped me out, 479 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: you know, my minor league, because you know, having the 480 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: guys you know around me, they were like, hey, this 481 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: is the way you're supposed to do things. This is 482 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: the way, you know. And then when I got to 483 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: the big leagues, you know, I was nineteen, so you 484 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: couldn't go out, you know, so you hadn't be stuck here, 485 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: you know. So by the time I turned twenty one, 486 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: the novelty of being in the big leagues and all 487 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: the other stuff they go on, it was gone. What 488 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: was it like playing with your dad? Because I don't 489 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: know if anybody else is probably I know Lebron wants 490 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: to be able to play with his son, Lebron Junior. 491 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: But I'm not so sure that we're ever gonna see 492 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: what you and your father accomplished again. He actually called me. 493 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: He said, hey, the Mariners want me, and he said, 494 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: is it okay? Yeah, he said this is your team 495 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, hell yeah, So you know, and 496 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: he gets there, We do the press conference. We go 497 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: down there, and as we're right and the elevator, he goes, 498 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, we got a bat. I was like, what's that? 499 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: He goes, whoever gets the first hit, the other one 500 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: got to paid lunch. I was like, deal, but the 501 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: second one, the other person get a chance to tie. 502 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: So finally I see the lineup card. He bat and 503 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: second I'm baton third. So I walk we're walking out 504 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: to the field. I said, you know what, for seventeen years, 505 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: you protected me. Right now I get to protect you. 506 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: And I kept going. He starts laughing. So we get 507 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: up on he's on the on deck circle. He gets 508 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: he gets up and then I come up there and 509 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: I yell, get a hit, Dad, And I turn around. 510 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: In my entire dugout is laughing because you know, as 511 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: we get older, Graybeard fossil old man. You know all this, 512 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: you know, Pops. Yeah, but for somebody to say, hey, 513 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: get a hit, dad and actually mean it, they were shocked. 514 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: Just I was like, that's my dad. I'm like so, 515 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: But I learned how to actually hit watching him, because 516 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: how he set up pictures, what he did it. Actually, 517 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at I hit two sixty four. 518 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: I ended up hitting three hundred per second year, and 519 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: I hit three twenty seven my third year, which I 520 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: was third in the batting title behind Julio Franklin Wade boss. Right, 521 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: But I got a chance to learn how to hit 522 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: just watching him sometimes, you know, and we look at it. 523 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: Some of the greatest quarterbacks of all time in your sport, 524 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: they sat behind somebody who was a monster, Yes, and learn. 525 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing. I got to see somebody 526 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: who I look like perform right in front of me. 527 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: How how did your mom and dad pay your bills? 528 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: What after you became the number one draft pick? Did 529 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: they stopped that immediately? What? Uh? What do you mean immediately? 530 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: Us as of June second, two thousand of the nineteen 531 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: eighty seven Uh, those bills have be cut off. Actually, 532 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: what's funny is like, I came home from my rookie 533 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: year and I'm sitting there, you know, coming home late. 534 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: You know, all my friends, you know, they're in college, 535 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: so they got weird hours. So I'm coming home at 536 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: like three o'clock in the morning, four o'clock in the morning. 537 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: Mom worried about me. Dad over there like this, you 538 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: know Dad sometime. So he finally comes in his head back. 539 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just let you know your mom worried about you. 540 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: You can't just be coming in at this type of night. 541 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: You know, either you stay out or you know, the 542 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: midnight right, or if you want to be the man, 543 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna pay some of these bills. So he gave 544 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: me a h He had me go down there and 545 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: he drafted a a contract that I would pay two 546 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month. I'm like, and I'm I'm arguing, 547 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: I ain't paying two hundred dollars at my own house. 548 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: He like, then you don't live here, plan your own foot. 549 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: So I paid him, but no one I knew the 550 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: chain of command. I gave it to him, He gave 551 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: it to mom, Mom gave it back to Mary. I 552 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: know how this worked, right, So once you decided that 553 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: you was gonna play baseball nothing else matter, because you 554 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: say you were you came from a football family, did 555 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: you not Did you not want to play football after 556 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: that point or you just devoted all your time to baseball. 557 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to get hit. I didn't want 558 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: to get hit though. We I'm like, hey, come on, well, 559 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: you could have been a defensive players. You could have 560 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: been a dB. Yeah, okay, so one of like, uh 561 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: remember Vinny Clark from State and Carlos we all played 562 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: little League Pop Warner together. Vinny and I were both safeties. 563 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: Vinny always wanted the blitz lead me out there by myself. 564 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: He said, you got the good hands, but no, we all, 565 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, we're little kids and things like that. But 566 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: now my brother he wanted to play football, and uh, 567 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, I looked at him, said I want pie 568 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: to you. All my friends want to play football. I 569 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: was like, and my dad also said, you know, longevity 570 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: and things like that. So you know, I listened to him, 571 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: even though you know, as a you know, when you're 572 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: growing up. I mean, if you look back on it, like, 573 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: you know what, he gave me some really sound advice, 574 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: but at the time that he's given you that advice. 575 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: He like, man, yeah, yeah, yeah I did that and 576 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: he just looked at me like I was crazy. But 577 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, uh and a couple It's funny is like 578 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, we're going on a hu trip, 579 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: right and uh, you know this is his bucket legs 580 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: list thing. He's like, dude, I want to go hunting. 581 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, so now I got to set 582 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: up everything and it's gonna ask look. I end up 583 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: taking my gun hiking, you know what. I'm just on 584 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: like a nature walk for like three days, four days. 585 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: You know. Uh. You know what's funny is he wanted 586 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, you know his boys. He's like, hey, we're 587 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: going hunting. I was like nine, and he took us 588 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: to a pheasant farm and like gallop police, Ohio. We 589 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: shot like thirteen hundred dollars worth the birds. Well he 590 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: didn't have thirteen hundred dollars with a cash on, so 591 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: so he was over there looking at it like y'all 592 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: just shooting up everything. Were like you said, go hunting, 593 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, but you know when you you know, nine 594 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: and seven, but you you know, you want to be 595 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: out with dad and you know He's like, Hey, we're 596 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: gonna teach you everything. And that was the one thing 597 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: is I tell, like I said, I tell my family, 598 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: don't be away. If the only thing you can't do 599 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: is quit, right, if you started, then you can't quit, 600 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: you know that year no matter what, if the coach 601 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: don't like you, you don't like the coach because some 602 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: people are not gonna like you for you. Some people 603 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: are gonna not like you for me, right, you know, 604 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: but you know it is what it is. And my kids, 605 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing about it, and I know 606 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: that you've gone through it is that our kids have 607 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: to grow up faster because of what we did than 608 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: anybody else. And it's sad because you know, you know, 609 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: and then they go, well he spoiled. No, I see 610 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: what happens outside these walls. And I still want him 611 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: to be a kid. And so we have to balance 612 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: it out because this world is not fair, and so 613 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: it's our job to try to balance things out for him. 614 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: When you look at all the father son combinations and 615 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: all the sports, be it Steph Curry and it's the dale. 616 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: You look at the booms, you look at the loose ear, 617 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: the earned hards, Winslow Junior Senior, the Matthews. What are 618 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: the Griffies Senior and junior rank only all time iconic 619 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: father son duo the Mannings. We never, that's for somebody 620 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: else to decide. We don't. We don't talk about those things. 621 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: We don't never, you know, compare ourselves to everybody else, 622 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: and you know, because it's like for me, you know, 623 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: I have a hard time and I know I see 624 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: you and uh skip go at it all the time 625 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: about you know, the goat and who this and who that? Yeah, yeah, 626 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: and uh you know, so we have a you know, 627 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: how many home runs would Willie May's hit if he 628 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: didn't get hit knocked down? How many home runs would 629 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: Hank Aaron hit with the travel that we have now. 630 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: So when I can't compare eras because I couldn't put 631 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: myself in their situation, but I can just imagine what 632 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: it would be like if they came here, right, you know, 633 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: because at the time, I mean you look at twenty 634 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: five years, twenty six years, them duds was balling and 635 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: they didn't take you know, winners off. I mean, you know, 636 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: they had to barnstorm, so they played constantly, you know, 637 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: all year round. Where you know, we got four months 638 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: off if if we don't make the playoffs. So I 639 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: look at it as you know, who's the greatest player 640 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: in their era? And you know, because it's so hard 641 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: to do I mean basketball, I mean the hand check, 642 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: that this, that, that, the three point line. You know 643 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: how many you know people go all points, all these 644 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: thousand points. Well he didn't have a three pointer, right, 645 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: he got thirty six thousand. You know, this guy has 646 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: a three point and now he got thirty three thousand, 647 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: and you know, so it's so hard to compare all 648 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: that stuff. For baseball, you know, uh, you have the 649 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: dead ball era, the live ball era, you know, the 650 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: things like that. Yeah, you know, so if that why 651 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: is that why? Because I'm listening to that you talk 652 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: and you said, well I didn't really I never could. 653 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: My father and I we never compared ourself to any 654 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: other father son duos. I really never compared myself. Is 655 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: that why you didn't get caught up in what transpired 656 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: in the nineties, which is known as the steroid era, 657 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: Because no, my dad was always saying, hey, you're not 658 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: you're not You're not gonna be the biggest, You're not 659 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna be the strongest. You're not gonna be the fastest. 660 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: Just don't let nobody out work you, right, and that's it. 661 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: You know. So when it came down and when all 662 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: that happened, I wasn't at the time. Did you know 663 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: what happened? Did you know it was happening? No? I would, 664 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, I like everybody else, like you see it. 665 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: I was like, huh when they rip the red demential 666 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: report and I was sitting there like he him a 667 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: good stiff winning, he could be out of the ballpark. 668 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: He nothing. But you know, it wasn't like you see 669 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: these guys, you know, in the middle of a locker 670 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: room with a needle, and you know in Surin, you 671 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: know they did it behind closed doors. They you know, 672 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: h I mean if you see a guy come in 673 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: and he was one seventy five one year and two 674 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: twenty five the next year, you could say, okay, but 675 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: what about fifteen home runs and all of a sudden 676 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: hitting fifty and sixty home runs? Uh, that isn't up 677 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: a red flag, No, because I didn't like for me, 678 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, I was always taught worry about itself. Okay, 679 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, you keep yourself right, that's the only thing 680 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: you can control is when you're looking at merror. You can't. 681 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: That's who you can control. I can't control what everybody 682 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: else does. You know my thing is when I look 683 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: at it and people say you got cheated, I was like, 684 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I let it go because 685 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to go into a big old debata back. 686 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: But no, no, because it used to. But now people 687 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: see that. Okay, okay, now look what he did, and 688 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: that's who I want my kids to be, right, that's 689 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: what That's what I wanted, and all that's what I 690 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: wanted is you know, I can go in there and 691 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: I can go anywhere. I can do a lot of things, 692 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: but I don't have to worry about somebody go hmm. 693 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: And that was the FA. There was never any suspicion. 694 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: Nobody ever had any suspicion. It was never in the 695 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: mission report. Nobody even said. Even someone that might have 696 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: had a gruge that wanted to turnish your image has 697 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: never said anything about King Grippy being linked to steroids 698 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: A G eight nothing, no, m Now when I retired, 699 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: all my friends say, hey, now you could use it 700 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: for cosmetic purposes. I was like, I was like what 701 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: you know? They were like, hey, but you know, but 702 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: it's one of those things like if you're twenty five 703 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: years old, think about this. You're twenty five years old, 704 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: you have two kids, you're up and down Triple A 705 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: big leagues. This one hundred dollars a vial of steroids 706 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: could keep you in the big leagues. To make a 707 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: half a million dollars. What do you think people were 708 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: going to do? And when I pose it to right, 709 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: when I pose it to people like that, they go, oh, 710 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: I never thought about it that way. But what happens 711 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: is so many people listen to and you know, the 712 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: the guys from Congress when they start jumping in on 713 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: on baseball and stuff like that, their grandfathers are telling 714 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: them that these were the best players in baseball. Now 715 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: those records are being broken, and now they're in Congress 716 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: trying to you know, put their name out could yeah, 717 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, hey, I ain't part of this, 718 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: even though I'm part of it, you know, but you know, 719 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: having a dad who who was an All star, not 720 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: a superstar, it helps you know. If you're a superstar, 721 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: then you gotta you gotta live up to that. Right. 722 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: But my dad was a you know, a homebody. Uh 723 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, become six brothers. I mean, it's gonna be 724 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: five brothers, one sister. You know. My mom is you know, 725 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: five sisters, two brothers. There's and they live Caddy corner 726 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: on a T street from each other. So when I 727 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: got in trouble at my grandmama's house, I went to 728 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: my other grandmama's house, which was right across the street. 729 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: But you know, coming from a small town, you know, 730 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: it helps because you know it's you know, it's not 731 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: like the big city. You got to be larger than life. 732 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: You know. My family came from a steel mill, so 733 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: I understood hard work and I understood that that. You know, 734 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: my grandfather when uh, you know, obviously he was talking 735 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: about his pension being like six hundred dollars a month 736 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: and this is what we're gonna have to live off of. 737 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: So I understood the value of money because I'd be like, hey, 738 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: can I go get this bubble gum, this top bubble gum, 739 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: And all I really wanted was the bubble gum inside 740 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: the actual thing. He was like, no, no, no, we're 741 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: gonna go through the cards. You're gonna know who they are. Right, 742 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: and things like that. But no, there was no pressure 743 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: on me about doing steroids. Are say some of the 744 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: guys that you were close with resorted to that. Do 745 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: you feel cheated? No? No, because now I you know, 746 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't have that issue. You know, Uh, people, well, 747 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: he used to do this, he used to be the best. 748 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: We thought he was better. Now they're like, well he 749 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: his numbers showed that as he got older, he wasn't 750 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: as quick, he didn't do certain things. Now That's all 751 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: I can ask is, you know my numbers are based 752 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: on you know, my age. What people do on at 753 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: in their age crew right, you know when you're twenty 754 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: two twenty three, you bounced back like that, you're thirty 755 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: seven thirty eight, you might want to take a couple 756 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: of days off. So how how how should we judge 757 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: this era? Should the guys that put up phenomenal numbers, 758 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: should they go to the Hall of Fame? Should there 759 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: be an asterisk by any of those numbers? How should 760 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: we judge this number? Because numbers are more than any 761 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: other sport? Right, But we don't vote like you know 762 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: a member of the Hall of Fame mean being personal, 763 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: I don't do I think that there's guys who who 764 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: are Hall of Famers before all. Some of the accusations 765 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: were were I think, yes, absolutely, uh you know, but 766 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: again that's not me, that's you know, somebody else, right, 767 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's for them to decide. When you came 768 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: up for the for enshrinement, you received ninety nine point 769 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: three two percent of the vote, and I remember listening 770 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: to you talk and they ask you, were you upset 771 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: that you weren't unanimous. You're like, no, I mean, I'm 772 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: good with that, but deep down, you know you should 773 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: have been unanimous. You should have been the first unanimous 774 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: players selected to Cooper's down. Whatever was a little bit, 775 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean to come on, come on, grip, was there 776 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: a little bit? Uh? Yeah, I was a little hot. Okay, 777 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm really hot. Uh. You know you're telling me, and 778 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: people don't really understand the voting. You're telling me you 779 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 1: get ten votes and I'm not one of the top 780 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: ten players of that year. That's how it works. What 781 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: so somebody left you completely off the ballot? Yes, come on, 782 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: work olo, and he's still and that person he or 783 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: she are is still allowed to vote. I don't know 784 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: about that now, Okay, Okay, yeah, but I don't know 785 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: who they are, but that's how it is. You get 786 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,959 Speaker 1: ten vote and it ain't like a first, second, third place. 787 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: You pick out ten people. That's why they got five percentages. Right, 788 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: he got eight vote? You getting to pick out another word? 789 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: There might be fifty, like twenty five people on the car. 790 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: You pick any ten, you won't. Yep. And somebody left 791 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Jr. With those numbers, with those accolades completely 792 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: off the ballot. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Yeah you you that 793 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: should have been upsetting. Yeah, let's talk about your swing. 794 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: It's many said it's the sweetest wing, is the greatest wing, 795 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 1: is the smoothest wing in MLB history? Do you feel 796 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: you Let let's just say we went out to the 797 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: batting practice and I gave you ten pitches. How many 798 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: could you hit over the fence right now? Yeah? Seven? 799 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: What I still take back in practice? So just the 800 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: case they have an old time of game and I 801 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: wanted to be called slipping. No, but you know, but 802 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: it's a lot like for my sport, you know, going 803 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: into the cage showing kids how to hit. Uh still 804 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: doing it. Uh, you know it's now I may not 805 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: get seven. I get six I put that. Uh, but 806 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: you know the you still have to do it, you know, 807 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: for you teaching a kid. You know, you know blocking technique. 808 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: You know you could show them that all day. Right, 809 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: you don't want to run up against these boys, now, no, no, 810 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: but see I don't have to. I'm on a pitching machine. 811 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: It's nice and seventy you know, sixty five seventy two 812 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: miles an hour is coming in delt. Hi, I ain't 813 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: gotta worry about that. I ain't got somebody. I ain't 814 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: gotta worry about somebody snapping him off on my ankles. 815 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: Give me some of the toughest pictures that you faced that. 816 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: You're like, you know what if I'm not on my 817 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: A game to day, he can embarrass me. Pedro Pedro Martinez, 818 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah stuff, he had electric stuff. Well, uh you see 819 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: the ninety nine the ninety nine A Star If I'm 820 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: not mistaken, the nine and nine All Star Game. Uh 821 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: huh yeah, that's what I was like. Ooh, look I 822 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: went back to U Seattle talk about, hey, can we 823 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: get like five of him? They were looking at me 824 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: like I was crazy. I was like, just okay, may 825 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: give me three. But to watch it when you you 826 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: have Randy Johnson. You know, uh, you played with Randy. Yeah, yeah, 827 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: Randy was fun, but Randy was my locker partner. So 828 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: Randy would be moody, but not be moody. He'd only 829 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: be moody if the media came up to him, right, 830 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: but everybody else come up to him. I mean, you know, 831 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: you got guys wrestling before the game. He and they're 832 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 1: wrestling too. Then he go out and throw seven shut out. 833 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: But you know, you have guys like that that you go, man, 834 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: this is it's like a day off out here, right, 835 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: ped Pedro wasn't that. You look at Randy Johnson sixteen, 836 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: and you look at you know, Roger probably weigh two 837 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: thirty two thirty five, But you look at Pedro, You're 838 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: like small guy and he's I mean he's like jumping 839 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: out of the shoes, right, But this sport isn't about size. 840 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 1: It's about hard right, And I know your sport is too. 841 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you ain't got no heart, 842 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: it don't matter what they say, right, Yeah, we tell 843 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: body by tars and it swinging like Jane. Yeah you know, 844 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: but but you know, for us, you know, this guy 845 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: is you know, five ten, one forty five just coming 846 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: in at you. You got six ten, you know, two 847 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: twenty coming from the left side right, you know, and 848 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: you got guys in between. You know, you're not a 849 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: number one picture because you ain't challenging nobody. You're not 850 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: a number one picture because you ain't embarrassed nobody. Your 851 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: job is to go out and embarrass That's why you 852 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: know the number one. You're the first game of the 853 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: year on every team, and that's your job is to 854 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: get that victory for that day. You had some of 855 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 1: the great commercials you ran for president in nineteen ninety six. 856 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if the campaign is never iffy. If 857 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: it's griffy, I mean the shoe. I mean. I don't 858 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: think people realize I'm old enough to remember you and 859 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: I are very close in age. I think we might 860 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: be the same age. Dude, you look back at like man, 861 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 1: I did that I had that. I was like that, Yeah, 862 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: I have to remind my youngest who said, who was 863 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: eighteens like, Dad, tell me how it was it playing 864 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: back in the day. And I was looking at him, like, man, 865 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: do you understand that I was still playing when he 866 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: was born? He was like I don't remember. So h So, 867 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, something will happen on TV and they'll show 868 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: a commercial and he he'll look at me and he'll 869 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: look and when I think when Little Big League came on, 870 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: he you know, and we all knew except Tim. You 871 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: know this movie was shot, you know, nine years before 872 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: he was born. So and then you say, so it 873 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: was like two thousand and eight. We were watching the 874 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: movie and uh, I can walk into the plate and 875 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: he's like six years old. He looked at the he 876 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: looked at TV, and he looked at me. He looked 877 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: back to TV. He shook his knee. He was like. 878 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I did a movie too. He 879 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: was like, oh, but you know so because like I said, man, 880 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: we very seldom talk about accomplishment because you know, I 881 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: lived my dream of being a major League baseball player. 882 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: For me, it's time that I give back and try 883 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: to get every kid, you know, no matter what color, 884 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: they are a chance to live their dream. Because that's 885 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: all it's about, you know, I tell everybody and being 886 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, I turned fifty one next month. Uh, you 887 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: know my time has passed, right. I want to be 888 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: in the barbershop. Man. I remember him when he was playing. 889 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: I remember him when he was literally and people. You know, 890 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: I said, that's my goal is to talk about kids 891 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: like his day was mine because I still talk about mine. 892 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: Uh but you know I want kids to live their 893 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 1: dream because I've lived mine. You you had a signature shoe, 894 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: which is a rarity for a baseball player that's normally 895 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: reserved for basketball players. Do you do you show your 896 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: son like, look a look what your dad had. Your 897 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: dad had a signature, that's no. What I what I 898 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: did is I have Nike makeup my my shoe and 899 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: a football shoot so he got to wear it. Oh 900 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: so he has the only you know, football shoot with 901 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: with with the swing man logo on it. Right when 902 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 1: when you if, I said, okay, Ken Griffy Junior compared, 903 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: I want to know who is the Ken Griffy Junior 904 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: of football, the Ken Griffy Junior of basketball? Who would 905 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 1: you say? Football? Mm hmm? Are we talking about ever? Yeah? Wow, 906 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: that's a good question because I wouldn't compare myself to 907 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: anybody in football and basketball? Really, yeah, you don't think 908 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: anybody is comparable? I mean, who have a a sweet 909 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 1: shot or a throwing motion that you like? You okay, 910 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: basket your equivalent of my swing ray Allen shooting? Okay, 911 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: uh m hm. And I would say Tony Dorset Tony 912 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: d yeah, only to my favorite football player. Would I 913 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: would have never get So how you Okay? You said 914 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: you grew up very close and he I think he's 915 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,919 Speaker 1: from Ala Quipper. Yep. He high school with my uncle. 916 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: So were you a cowboy fan or a stealer fan? 917 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: Being from that close in Pa? I'm a cowboy fan, 918 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: oh man, como man you I'm an old school cowboy fan. Okay, 919 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: so you're not. You're not like these delusional fans that 920 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: think they go win the Super Bowl every year. Huh. 921 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm an old school cowboy fan. It's funny at my house. 922 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: Is my wife. She's from Seattle, so she a diehard 923 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 1: Seahawk fan. Okay, okay, trade from must being here in Florida, 924 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: all he heard was about to you. It's all about 925 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: the use. So here ed Reid, ray Lewis h Willis mcgahey. 926 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: So he liked the Ravens. Okay. Uh. My youngest, he 927 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: was a starting quarterback. He had he didn't have a 928 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: haircut till he was nine, so he had fourteen inches 929 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: of hair. Well, name me a left handed quarterback that 930 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: had braids, Mike Vick. So he was a Mike Vick 931 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: fan wherever Mike went. Uh, and I'll tell you a 932 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: story about that the second. And then my daughter is 933 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: a Carolina Panther fan. How Steve Smith her favorite player. 934 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: Good And I did something that I've never done. I 935 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: actually called Carolina, called the called their player personnel and said, look, man, 936 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: I've never done this. My daughter is a die hard fan. 937 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 1: Actually he was with the Ravens at the time, and 938 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 1: I said, look, I will trade him jerseys because I 939 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: need one from for my daughter. That's like, I have 940 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: pictures of her when she is like twelve with the 941 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: Carolina eighty nine jersey on, and she is now like 942 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: she is in college and when that game come on 943 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: and he playing that jersey, go on. Now, my little guy. 944 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: He was eight years or nine years old. They were 945 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: playing in Jacksonville, so I gotta sweep. Said all right, 946 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna go watch him play. So we go to 947 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,919 Speaker 1: the sweep. They said, hey, blah blah blah, Mike runs 948 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: on the field. Were there early Mike runs out on 949 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: the field for warm up. My youngest runs on the 950 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: field with him and sits on the twenty yard line 951 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 1: watching him warm up, like I'm like, yo, u, Kevin, 952 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: come on back, and he was like, that's Mike. Vid 953 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: I was like okay, And even security was like he 954 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 1: ain't bother nobody and Mike and said that just let 955 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 1: him go Indian style watching him. And then at the end, 956 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: Mike ran over and talked to him, said hie to him. 957 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: And at the end of the game, he said, at 958 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: the end of the game, come down. So at the 959 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: end of game and they lost that game. So we 960 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: was like trying to get out. You know how football 961 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 1: a little different in baseball. We got another game tomorrow, right, 962 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: y'all got a whole week to to They're trying to 963 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: get us on the bus, get to the airport and 964 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: get back on the plane and get home. Yeah. So 965 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: it was like all right, he said, no, no, no, 966 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: I got a phone call. Come down there. So we 967 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: went there. He gave him the game jersey and he 968 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: put it on and fell asleep in the car. Now 969 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: we got a two hour drive back to or Letter. 970 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: He dead sleep in the car with a jersey on. 971 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, we gotta take the jersey off. He 972 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,959 Speaker 1: he gonna frame it. I'll let we gon frame it. Okay, 973 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 1: we gonna frame it. Uh. And to this day is 974 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: in his room and he is a freshman in college. 975 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: Mama said, he can't take that jersey. He could take 976 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: a picture of the jersey. That jersey is in that room. 977 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 1: Mama said, he can't take that picture. So I don't 978 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: know if you've ever done this, but if I said, okay, 979 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: name the five greatest baseball all players of all time, 980 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: any era. Pictures included, Okay, you know what, let's leave 981 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: pictures out. I don't really cut. All they do is 982 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,280 Speaker 1: give me your five best baby, the five greatest baseball 983 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: players Hank Karen William made Jackie Robinson, Ricky Henderson, and 984 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: one guy, Bob Gibson as a picture. That's a very 985 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I can William made. I understand, Hank got you. 986 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,479 Speaker 1: I'm surprised you said Ricky the all time runs leader. 987 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: He would he look he was different. I've been heard 988 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: a story about Ricky and it makes me laugh because 989 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: I can just imagine it had I've been there to 990 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: actually witness some of the things that I've heard, and 991 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: I just I just I'm crying, laughing Yeah, my dad 992 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: played with him for a few years. So yeah, some 993 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 1: of those stories are true. You got Jackie Robinson. But 994 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 1: what he did, yes number one, you know, rightfully? So 995 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 1: I mean, if it wasn't for him, you know. Uh. 996 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: And what's funny is, out of all the pictures in 997 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,760 Speaker 1: my house, he's the one that's prominently displayed in my office, 998 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: right because what he did and what he means to 999 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: so many people of color, and I think people you 1000 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: know and not so much. I mean what he did 1001 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: for us as people black people, but he allowed to 1002 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: let other countries come here and play this game. And 1003 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: I know it's different in bat football because you don't 1004 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 1: see very many Europeans and America for us, right for us, 1005 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, we got guys from South Africa, 1006 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 1: you know Japan, you know Korea, you know nick guys, 1007 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: you got Cubans, got South Korea. But without him, who knows? 1008 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: And and my thing is, if he didn't do it, 1009 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 1: when would be the next Jackie Robinson? Right? You know, 1010 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: it may have been after my dad might have played, 1011 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 1: so I may have not got the opportunity. And yet 1012 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 1: you had to have the right temperament because the things 1013 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: that were said the things that were done, you had 1014 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 1: to write. Everybody couldn't be everybody couldn't be Jackie Robinson. Now, no, no, 1015 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: I say that all the time. I'm like, no, don't 1016 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: know if I could be him. I saying, you had 1017 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: to tell him a lot, right, But I got a 1018 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: chance to to sit there and talk to Rachel and 1019 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: Sharon and you know, uh, and that's why part of 1020 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, my shoe collection does have a Jackie Robinson 1021 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: shoe right because of what he did. And I got 1022 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 1: one coming out next year. I can't show it to you, 1023 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: but I got one coming out. Well, well I just 1024 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: I'll just wait on hopefully I'll get the sneaker. Yeah yeah, 1025 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: oh no, it's a sneaker version. Okay. Well, because I 1026 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: don't play no more, I can't be out here. My 1027 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 1: wife think, oh, let me go on this towel on 1028 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 1: my spikes. Talk about the history of baseball with the 1029 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 1: black players and why have we seen the decline of 1030 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: black players playing in the majors. But if you number one, 1031 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: if you get drafted in football and baseball, I mean 1032 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: it's give me football and basketball you go straight to 1033 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: the show, correct and baseball you get drafted you go 1034 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: to the moundern Lakes and it could be six years, right, 1035 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: you know before you get there. And I think that's 1036 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: one of the differences, plus the other differences in the 1037 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: actual cost you know, these showcases and this and that, 1038 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,439 Speaker 1: you know, trying to get the exposure for these young kids. 1039 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,280 Speaker 1: It's it's quite expensive. And we need to somehow manage 1040 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: a rate where some of these kids can come, right. 1041 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, we gotta figure out something, you know, because 1042 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: if you can run, hit and throw, you know, they 1043 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: will find you. But you got to be that guy. 1044 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:14,320 Speaker 1: And you know, and also, like the other economic standards, 1045 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: economic problem we have is you can go to Dominican 1046 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,959 Speaker 1: or Venezuela and you can get five or six guys 1047 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: for what it would cost an American, you know, But 1048 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a two way street. We gotta get guys 1049 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: who want to play. We got to get guys that 1050 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: look like us as coaches on all levels. So I think, 1051 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, when we get that, I think things will 1052 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: change because I remember my dad had nineteen percent. I 1053 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: think that was the all time high, and now it's 1054 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: like six point seven two. Right, you mentioned the instant gratification. 1055 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: I get drafted I'm going to the NFL. If I 1056 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: get drafted, I'm going to the NBA. And you mentioned, Okay, 1057 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: you get drafted, you're going down to the minors, and 1058 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be what you say, I'm animum of what 1059 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: a year or two years at the minimum? Uh yeah, yeah, 1060 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: and if you're if you're a monster, it's a minimum. 1061 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean you yeah, you'll have how long you so? 1062 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: But that's the thing though, So you're talking about you are, 1063 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, number one overall draft pick goes down for 1064 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: a year and a half. What about the guy that's 1065 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: not you and he stands five years or he is 1066 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: a career mind of leaguer, but he got drafted to 1067 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,919 Speaker 1: play in the majors. Yeah, you know, I tell kids, 1068 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, hey, the hardest part about being drafted being 1069 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: here is getting drafted. Obviously somebody wanted you, right, so 1070 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 1: you get drafted. So from that point on, you know, 1071 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: like I tell, just relax and go play, you know, 1072 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: because just like every sport, there's an it's a numbers game. 1073 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: Somebody get hurt, you get called in, you know, So 1074 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: the hardest I can't just show up off the streets 1075 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: say hey, coach, I'm here I'm about third. I'm ready, right, 1076 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna look at you like you crazy. So you know, 1077 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 1: most kids put a lot of pressure after they get 1078 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 1: drafted by the slot that you're in. There's a little 1079 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: bit of jealousy because you're the new guy. You're the 1080 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: new first pick, you know. But you go through that 1081 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: the learning curve and the growing pains. Uh. You know, 1082 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: I was MVP of the league in my first year, 1083 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 1: but not MVP on my team. That's unheard of, but 1084 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: that happened to me. Yeah, yeah, I know the feeling. 1085 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. When you look 1086 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: at these outfielders now and you play center field. Mookie 1087 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: Bett played some center, but mainly he's a right fielder. 1088 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 1: You look at Mike Trout. Are there any guys currently 1089 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: the playing that reminds you like you like to watch 1090 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: Mookie Bett? Yeah, Jackie Bradley, Trout, Harper, I'll be over there. 1091 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: You know that me. Uh. You know that Dodger lineup, 1092 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: you know as a monster. So when they on TV, 1093 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 1: then you got you know the Braves pitching staff, you know, 1094 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: the young pitchers. I mean, anytime that you have like 1095 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: a matchup like that, a good solid team and a 1096 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 1: pitching staff. That's that's young man. It's exciting and for me, 1097 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: that's that's what it's about. Uh, you know they got uh, 1098 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: they got great young players on both sides. Now you're 1099 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: looking at you know, the Twins who have been I 1100 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: mean that's giving me the Twins, but the Raids who've 1101 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: been solid. You know, So this is you know, this 1102 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: is a very interesting World series because you know, you 1103 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: got a team that could score a whole bunch of 1104 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: runs in a in a flash. And then you got 1105 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: a team that's not gonna hit very many home runs, 1106 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 1: but they're gonna make the right place. And so you know, 1107 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: in baseball, it's a game. It's a chess match, you know, 1108 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, how many how can I keep my opponent 1109 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: off balance? And you know, so this is you know, 1110 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 1: a pretty good matchup. But even though people don't look 1111 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: at it, you know, you have the bigger known team 1112 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 1: is the Dodgers, and you have the little known team 1113 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: like who are the Raised? Who are these guys? And 1114 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: people are like, I can't name two people on the Raise. 1115 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: I would like, yeah, but guess where they at. They're 1116 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: playing in the big game, right and so, and they're 1117 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: gonna be. They're gonna be a force to reckon with 1118 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 1: over the next couple of years because they got good, solid, 1119 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: young talent, and unfortunately they're not able to hold on 1120 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: to them because they're not gonna be able to pay 1121 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: them what the big market teams can pay. I think 1122 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 1: something's gonna happen. Do you think something gonna happen? Well, 1123 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: from what I hear because I live in Florida, that 1124 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: they've already been told that they're gonna move. Now. I 1125 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 1: don't know if that's for sure or not, but you know, 1126 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: it's crazy just to hear that. You know, the mayor or, Yeah, 1127 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 1: the mayor of their city is like, look, we need 1128 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: that land. So y'all gonna have to find something place 1129 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: to go in like five five years. So I think 1130 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 1: over the next five years, something's gonna happen. Griffin, did 1131 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: you you look at these salaries and you see guys 1132 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: getting three fifty Did you ever think salary would get 1133 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 1: somebody would make four hundred million dollars. I keep complaining 1134 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: my parents. I tell him all the time, like what happened? 1135 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: I've been looking at it, and my dad walking I 1136 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: shake my head, uh huh, and see, you know, being 1137 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: in November baby, I was Valentine's baby, So I was 1138 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: like looking at him, like really, so, I mean, did 1139 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 1: you did you ever? I mean, look you were when 1140 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,919 Speaker 1: you were at once. I mean, I mean you took 1141 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: less money to go to a Cincinnati because you wanted 1142 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: to go play for the Red. You wanted to play 1143 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: the team your dad played for it, so you talk, 1144 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 1: but you made good money. But to see these salaries 1145 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: three fifties and the pictures making three twenty seven and 1146 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 1: you missed and I feel to make it almost a 1147 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: half a billion, did you ever think here? Uh No, 1148 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: I didn't ever think the salaries get to Maya. You know, 1149 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: I think my dad made a million dollars as I 1150 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 1: think it's his high. So that's what I thought, you know, 1151 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna be. And you know, even my 1152 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 1: rookie year, I was sixty eight thousand, five hundred that 1153 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 1: was the rookie minimum, and then I went to one 1154 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 1: eighty and then five thirty five and then two million. 1155 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: But by the time I got two million, I was 1156 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: like I felt like what, uh Look, no, when I 1157 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: got like iced tea, when you say nineteen nineteen got 1158 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: a bench twenty one I retired right, But but no, 1159 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, I never thought about 1160 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, the salaries and what could be. But I 1161 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, when I retired, I did tell my parents, 1162 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 1: if y'all have just waited, I could have got you 1163 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 1: that new car that you wanted, Like know when they 1164 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 1: gonna get it anyway? No, when they got it anyway. 1165 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: But you know, are you are you surprised your son 1166 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: showed football over baseball? No, no, it's his decision. It's 1167 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 1: not my decision. It's not my life. Like I always said, 1168 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't want my kids to be at whatever. Yeah, 1169 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: what if i'd have played football? What if you know 1170 01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 1: you forced me to do this? Now? What if I 1171 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: and I don't want them to ever come at me 1172 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 1: and resent me from making a decision for them. Gripping, 1173 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,959 Speaker 1: I said the same thing I told I told my kids. 1174 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 1: I said, I want you to do what you want 1175 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 1: to do, because I don't want when you get to 1176 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 1: be thirty years old, you said, Dad, I want to 1177 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 1: did this because you wanted me to. No, no, no, no, 1178 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: no no. I want you to do what you want 1179 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 1: to do because I did what I wanted to do. 1180 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to go to the NFL and take care 1181 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 1: of her, you know, take care of my family. So 1182 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Whatever it is, I 1183 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: don't care. Yeah, now come now, let me tell you what. 1184 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna push you in any particular direction, but 1185 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 1: once you start walking in that direction, I'm gonna push you. Yeah. 1186 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, we got that. Yeah, we got that. I mean, 1187 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know my thing is you got to 1188 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 1: be the best at what you do, whatever that is. 1189 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, like when my daughter graduated from college, 1190 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: she had a couple knee injuries, you know, before she 1191 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 1: went to college. She made it through, and I told 1192 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: her I'd give her a year off. Well that year 1193 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: it became two years, and she get ready no, no, 1194 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 1: she could ready have a job. Uh next actually starts 1195 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 1: next week. But the funny thing about that is I 1196 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 1: came down and I was like, hey, you know, it's 1197 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 1: it's a year. She was like, well, I fouled an extension. 1198 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 1: I was like, huh. She was was just like Texas Dad. Yeah, 1199 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: I just founded you know, you don't have to wait 1200 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 1: for the return, you know. So I just looked at her. 1201 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 1: My boys looked at me like that wouldn't happen if 1202 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: that's me. I was like, yeah, you probably right. I 1203 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 1: just told you to get out. But you know, you 1204 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 1: know people, you know, they look at you know, number 1205 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: one college athletes and think, oh man, it's great, they're 1206 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: a college athlete. I said. They work harder than anybody 1207 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: I know. Yea, you know, they gotta go school, they 1208 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: gotta get they lift in the curriculum and right. And 1209 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 1: so when you know Tray, you know, uh, Tray going 1210 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: getting not getting drafted, going to the Colts, going to Miami, 1211 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 1: going to the Steelers. Uh, you know not. I didn't 1212 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: know if he wanted to get picked up, and had 1213 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 1: a couple of calls and he said, hey, I just 1214 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 1: want to be And I said, all right, you gotta 1215 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: you got a year. You got a year to just 1216 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: chill and figure out what you want to do in life. 1217 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 1: You're still young enough to figure it out. Uh. And 1218 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the pandemic hit. And I'm 1219 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: looking at him, he looking at me, because you know, 1220 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,920 Speaker 1: sometimes can't no two grown men sometimes can't be in 1221 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: the save house. But you know, he's he's, he's he's 1222 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, they're all good kids. I have no problems 1223 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 1: with them. If I said Hey man, here's here's your 1224 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 1: here's what your chores are. You gotta make sure the 1225 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: garbage is out. You're gonna make sure this is aut 1226 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Make sure your mom are And I said, 1227 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: may think you know, it ain't about me. Just make 1228 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: sure mom's cool, rightever, Mom want just get it done. 1229 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: And they they've been behind it. You know, you just 1230 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 1: watched the growth of of kids. And I've had more 1231 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: people compliment me on, you know, the development of my 1232 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 1: kids than me playing sports. And I said, that's more 1233 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: important than me what I did off the field. I'm 1234 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: in on the field. When your youngest son is an HBC, 1235 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 1: he's at FAMI you what's that been had he talked 1236 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 1: to you? What's that been like for him? He three 1237 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 1: hours away on a drive. Okay, he'd been home every 1238 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 1: other weekend. Uh, Mama said he can come home every 1239 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 1: other weekend. There's no there's no football, right. If there 1240 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: was football, you know, it looks he'd have he'd be 1241 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: traveling when he'd be playing right right now. A though 1242 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 1: football Uh, you know, he he loves it. I mean, 1243 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 1: it's been a blessing. This side. We went to and 1244 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: we go to a predominantly black high school. You know, 1245 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 1: my kids graduated from public school. Okay, was that important 1246 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: for you? Was that important for you to have them 1247 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 1: go to a public school? Yes? Why? Why is that? 1248 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,800 Speaker 1: Because it's just people. You meet all kinds of people. 1249 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 1: You know. It ain't that you know, just because your 1250 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 1: daddy has a little money. There's people who got a 1251 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 1: lot more money than your daddy. And that was the 1252 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: one thing that that we said is that, hey man, 1253 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 1: this is there are different nationalities, different religions, different people, 1254 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: and you've got to deal with that in the real world. Right. So, 1255 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, the first couple of years, I think till 1256 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: fourth grade, they went to a school downtown. Then they 1257 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: went to a charter school for two years, and then 1258 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 1: they got from the sixth grade on they was in 1259 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 1: public school. And uh, you know you could see, you know, 1260 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: you come home and you know, they got a couple 1261 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 1: bumps and bruises, you know, people talking about them, people 1262 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 1: talking about their daddy. You know, a couple fights here 1263 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: and there, you know, but you know nothing to to 1264 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: really you know, write home about. You know, I get 1265 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 1: the couple days. Hey, by the way, your son chokes 1266 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 1: somebody out in school, So how protective? Are you? How 1267 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: protective are the kids of you? Like, my kids don't 1268 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 1: follow me on soci media and they are very very 1269 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: reluctant to tell you who their father is because they 1270 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 1: don't want someone to treat them any any kind of way, 1271 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: either good or bad, because of their dad. Well, they 1272 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 1: follow me, and I'll tell you that story real quick. 1273 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 1: Is that. You know when I started getting on Instagram, Uh, 1274 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 1: I had four followers and three of them was at 1275 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: my house and they was teasing if. Then I got like, 1276 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, i got ten thousand. They was like, hey, dad, 1277 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna shout me out. I was like, what do 1278 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 1: you mean? But you know, it's very important, uh for them. 1279 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 1: They are very protective of me growing up. You know 1280 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 1: they still are. You know, at first they were like, 1281 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 1: why is somebody talking to him? Why is it? Because 1282 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,120 Speaker 1: they didn't really saying, and then all of a sudden 1283 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 1: they were like, why are you bothering them? You know exactly? Yeah, 1284 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 1: that's my oldest My oldest daughter the exact same way, 1285 01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 1: because people would come up while we're eating or having 1286 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, have it we're out, and she's like, that's 1287 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 1: my daddy. Ye eat not no autographs. Yeah, no, yeah, 1288 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 1: my kids do that. You know, they still do it. 1289 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 1: In the twenty six and twenty five I saw the documentary. 1290 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: I think it was a documentary where you said you 1291 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 1: would never play for the Yankees. Was that in the 1292 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: heat of the moment or you really meant that because 1293 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 1: something trying to tell us, tell us, will you tell 1294 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 1: the story. I was in a tunnel and it's a 1295 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 1: walkway that separates the wise lounge, which was upstairs or 1296 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 1: the waiting lounge, wive lounge and downstairs. And it was 1297 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 1: a tunnel, probably about seventy five feet and we played 1298 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:56,639 Speaker 1: pickle there and the Yankees were getting made. Bud whooped 1299 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 1: and and it's probably you had Randolph's kids tour boards kid, 1300 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, my brother and I. So there's probably about 1301 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 1: ten to twelve of us. And he walked up to 1302 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: my dad said get your blank kids out of here. 1303 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,680 Speaker 1: So my dad after the game brought us home and said, hey, 1304 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 1: they can't come there. My mom said, oh, they're going 1305 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. So we went back. You just ain't gonna 1306 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: do that. But over hearing that, and I'm twelve years old, 1307 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm maybe I'm yeah, twelve thirteen. Then I 1308 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,599 Speaker 1: go to the ballpark early with my dad and it's 1309 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,639 Speaker 1: one o'clock. Ain't nobody there? Are twelve thirty one o'clock. 1310 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody there. I'm sitting in the dugout and the 1311 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: guy says, hey, George, don't want nobody in the dug out. Meanwhile, 1312 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 1: you got Craig Nettle's son taking groundballs at third base. 1313 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,720 Speaker 1: And he looked at me, he said, pointed over there, 1314 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 1: and he said, just remember that. And that's all it took. 1315 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 1: So when you have an impressionable kid at at that 1316 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: age that every time you know they play that team, 1317 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 1: the only thing you can think of is how I'm 1318 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 1: gonna beat them every single time. I mean, you look 1319 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 1: at my numbers, they probably the best against any other team. 1320 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Because I just it wasn't about. It wasn't because I 1321 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 1: got great friends who you know, Jeter's a good friend 1322 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,920 Speaker 1: of mine. You know whore episode of MO. You know Bernie, 1323 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, Uh, you know the all the old guys 1324 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: you know from the Dave Winfield, Ricky, you know, Roy Smiley, 1325 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Willie Rando, Big John Mayberry. I mean all these guys, 1326 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,479 Speaker 1: you know, Rick Serone, I mean all these guys, were, 1327 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 1: you know, the guys that I looked up to, and 1328 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, but once I saw the pinch drips with 1329 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,639 Speaker 1: n why on it, I was like a different person. 1330 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, here it is, we're gonna 1331 01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:01,719 Speaker 1: go at it. You were the first number one overall 1332 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 1: draft pick to be selected to the Hall of Fame. 1333 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 1: Of all the ones, you're the first but two of 1334 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 1: us and Chip yep, how I mean, do you do 1335 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 1: you find that? Do you do you think that's odd? 1336 01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,720 Speaker 1: You like, hold on, wait a minute, Yeah I did 1337 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: when I found out. Yeah, I thought it was. I 1338 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,639 Speaker 1: was like, and then, but do you realize how many 1339 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:32,439 Speaker 1: first picks don't make it? You know, there's more fourth 1340 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: and fifth round draft choices in the big leagues than 1341 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 1: first round. Things like that. You like, and but and 1342 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a I know they have 1343 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 1: the talent, maybe a lack of focus sometimes. But I 1344 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 1: knew that I didn't want to be in the minor 1345 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,680 Speaker 1: leagues right, and that was what was driving me. I 1346 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: don't want to be here. My daddy went here. I 1347 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 1: don't even remember my dad being in my league, So 1348 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 1: I know that I didn't want to be there, did 1349 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,439 Speaker 1: did we? Growing up. Did your dad have a fancy car? 1350 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 1: Did that motivate you? Because my brother came back. When 1351 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 1: my brother came when my brother was got drafted in 1352 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 1: eighty eight, and he had him Mercedes and he got BMW. 1353 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want that now. What's funny is we 1354 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 1: actually and my dad's twenty sixth birthday, which I was 1355 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: six years old, we got him a powder blue ten 1356 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 1: speed bike and that was his first bike. That was 1357 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 1: his first ever bike, and it was her father's day. 1358 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: He wrote it down the driveway, he wrote it back 1359 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 1: up and he said, hey, you can ride it. It's yours. 1360 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 1: He goes. But you know the fact that you thought 1361 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 1: of me it is great because he didn't. I remember 1362 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 1: having a green Toyota Celica with lovers on the back 1363 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,599 Speaker 1: that my mom had, like a a Mark five has 1364 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 1: a cougar Mark five. It's something about Lincoln Mark five 1365 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:10,519 Speaker 1: something like that. That was her car. I remember. Also, 1366 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,439 Speaker 1: I remember all of a sudden, my dad went to 1367 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,639 Speaker 1: the Yankees, and you know, a couple of years later, 1368 01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 1: my mom's driving a a Silver Spur with a hundred 1369 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 1: dollar pillows in the back and my dad is driving 1370 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: a Mercedes. I was like, okay, but he you know, 1371 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't you know. He was always taught. And I 1372 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 1: tell my kids all this, Uh yeah, your dad got 1373 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 1: a little money. You ain't got no money. Yeah that's 1374 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 1: what I Hey, that's what I tell my kids all 1375 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,639 Speaker 1: the time. I tell the people they're dating, I tell 1376 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,679 Speaker 1: them about my kids. I was like, hey, they ain't 1377 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: got no money. I got the money. Yeah, yeah, because 1378 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,720 Speaker 1: they you know. Now, you know, having a girl and 1379 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,560 Speaker 1: having a boy, it's a little different because you know, 1380 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'll be able to sugarcoate. I only have 1381 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 1: one rule at my house. You know that you can't 1382 01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,720 Speaker 1: get gassed after seven pm, but before seven pm, right 1383 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 1: before seven am, so my girls may be bringing stuff. 1384 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 1: I left two miles from a gas station my girl 1385 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: brought home. It was one mile to empty. I was 1386 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 1: over there like that, you want me to go get 1387 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 1: you some gas? And it got one mile to empty, 1388 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 1: but it's two miles to the gas station. Got my 1389 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:15,720 Speaker 1: blood in that car and drove over there and got 1390 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: us some gas. But but that's just that was if 1391 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 1: that was trail Tabby, what were you told him? I 1392 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:27,679 Speaker 1: had told him. I followed, y'all, So for a wrapper, 1393 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,720 Speaker 1: what are you doing now. Uh, Well, I own a 1394 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 1: couple of car dealerships okay, in South Carolina and Florida, 1395 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,639 Speaker 1: work for Major League Baseball both sides of the Commissioner's office, 1396 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 1: and for Player Association doing joint ventures to help, you know, 1397 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 1: kids get back into baseball and play a little golf 1398 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 1: and try to stay out of people's way. I'm all right, 1399 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,640 Speaker 1: I got your brother once you got it. Oh, he 1400 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 1: didn't tell me about that. He did not tell me. Well, 1401 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 1: I tell you a quick story for it is. Uh. 1402 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:06,080 Speaker 1: We were at the Nike event and here in Orlando 1403 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 1: for the what did they call that bang the golf 1404 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 1: the PGA show. Okay, So I hit my first drive 1405 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 1: and I've been playing golf all Dad hit the first drive. 1406 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 1: It's two forty nine. He looked at me and Susan 1407 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,720 Speaker 1: Peterson said, that's where I hit my ball. He churned 1408 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: right and says, uh, also, now you just drive it 1409 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 1: as far as the LPGA player and I just looked 1410 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:32,840 Speaker 1: at him like, do you know who I am? So 1411 01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 1: I hit the next one three eleven, and then I 1412 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 1: gave I said was that better? He was like, yeah, 1413 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: that's a little better. But you were out there with 1414 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 1: me I said, all right, and then I looked at 1415 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,160 Speaker 1: one of my boys. He was like, give it to him. 1416 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,760 Speaker 1: So I hit the next one three fifty three. So 1417 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,880 Speaker 1: for the next forty five minutes, your brother was in 1418 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 1: that simulator trying to hit it where I was hitting 1419 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,960 Speaker 1: me that. I said, Well, don't pull nothing back there. 1420 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,479 Speaker 1: You you can't go out there, I said. All all 1421 01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 1: my life I've been swinging right, so I I can 1422 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,800 Speaker 1: turn it up when I have to. I said, Now, 1423 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 1: I ain't at you know, you as football players, y'all 1424 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 1: used to pushing people off of you, right, you know. 1425 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,439 Speaker 1: I'm used to getting getting the head out and driving 1426 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 1: the ball. Why are baseball players so good at golf? 1427 01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 1: You look at Rick Roland, you look at some of 1428 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 1: the baseball players. You guys are great, I think because 1429 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 1: we ain't got team meetings like y'all, do you, John Small? 1430 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 1: I mean, the baseball players are right, but they pictures. 1431 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: They you know, they don't care you look, No, they 1432 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 1: know because see my number one swing, my number two 1433 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,639 Speaker 1: swing on wasn't go mess up my number one swing, right, yeah, 1434 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,439 Speaker 1: so my baseball swing. I would be like, okay, if 1435 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 1: we go out there and play golf, and I didn't 1436 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,640 Speaker 1: really learn how to play really golf until after I 1437 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 1: retire because I hit a big old slice. Because my 1438 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 1: baseball swing, that's what we're gonna play with. I'm gonna 1439 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 1: keep working. I'm gonna groove that thing in I'm not 1440 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,640 Speaker 1: grooving my golf swinging in my golf swing. Don't pay 1441 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 1: no bills at the house, right and then tell now 1442 01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,360 Speaker 1: it give me a little gass money from my boys, 1443 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 1: but you know it ain't paying in the light bill. 1444 01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,479 Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the some of the great 1445 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:08,719 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that came from a baseball background. Got Patrick Mahomes, 1446 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,640 Speaker 1: his father was in the major leagues, Kyler Murray got 1447 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 1: drafted number one overall in football, he was the number 1448 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,080 Speaker 1: eight pick in the MLB draft, and Russell Wilson was 1449 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,560 Speaker 1: a second baseman. What is it that you think translates 1450 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 1: so well from major league players to being played in 1451 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. I think decision making and being a student 1452 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 1: at a game. I think when you're a you know, 1453 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 1: a middle infielder or a pitcher, you're constantly thinking, you know, 1454 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 1: trying to get people out. Uh, you know you see 1455 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: that always, you know, I you know on Padaby, you 1456 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 1: know I see that his athletic ability didn't come from 1457 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: your side of the family. You know. It's always that 1458 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 1: fun stuff that we do, you know, you know we 1459 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,760 Speaker 1: just say that, but you know, uh, you know, for us, 1460 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 1: when you see the next generation of guys that you 1461 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 1: play with, you you feel like then your your kids, right, 1462 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,479 Speaker 1: you know, you were like, that's my boy. So when 1463 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 1: he come on TV, I'm right there. When Russell's on TV, 1464 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm right there, you know. So you know, we have 1465 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 1: this thing that you know, it ain't about us again, 1466 01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,759 Speaker 1: it's about the next generation. And when we see somebody 1467 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 1: that we know we played again, we want to see 1468 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 1: how they do because and for us in baseball, we 1469 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,479 Speaker 1: can look at the box school when they announce your 1470 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,200 Speaker 1: name and you see the bad average RBI's home runs 1471 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,559 Speaker 1: up there, we know how you're doing, right, So that's 1472 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 1: why we get the first base. They'd be like, hey, 1473 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 1: how's the family? Everyone? Like, man, if you're talking about it, 1474 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 1: because like, nah, we've been asking about everything else. We 1475 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 1: would never talk about baseball, win at first base, how 1476 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,320 Speaker 1: the kind of kids, how's Mandy? How's everybody? Then all 1477 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're still second. You gotta do it 1478 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,040 Speaker 1: all over again. So that's what you get on third 1479 01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 1: because they man, uh yeah, what's going on? Hot? But 1480 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,519 Speaker 1: that's the way we do things. As a Hall of 1481 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,639 Speaker 1: Fame baseball player, one of the great of all time? 1482 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 1: How good was Bo Jackson and Dion? I'm saying it's 1483 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 1: because they were so exemplary in the other sports. Well, 1484 01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 1: you still got Brian Jorge if they had if they 1485 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 1: if Don if Prime had just focused on baseball, if 1486 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,920 Speaker 1: Bow had just focused on baseball, how good could they 1487 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 1: have been? Well? I think when you you look at it, uh, 1488 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 1: those two, you can't go wrong with either one. Uh 1489 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:26,519 Speaker 1: you know, Bo was I think Bow was maybe a 1490 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 1: better baseball player than Deon, but you know, Deon football 1491 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 1: wise is off the chart. Uh. But they are all 1492 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 1: stars in baseball. You know, there are a lot of 1493 01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 1: fun to watch. I'man when you talk about can't miss TV, 1494 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: that's them. Yeah, that ra right there. They'd be like okay, 1495 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 1: uh and you know, who is it to decide that 1496 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,439 Speaker 1: you could play once sport? Who is it for you 1497 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,560 Speaker 1: to decide? These kids came out and said, you know what, 1498 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 1: I want to play? Brian Jordan, you're throwing there, yes, 1499 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know that, and that's what I say. Man, 1500 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,680 Speaker 1: I didn't have to make up my mind till my 1501 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 1: senior year. You see now that these kids are making 1502 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,120 Speaker 1: their mind up in the third grade. I want to 1503 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,600 Speaker 1: be a baseball player. You're not an understanding that you 1504 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 1: might be a football player, right. You might be a 1505 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 1: lacrosse player, you might be a basketball player. You might 1506 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:32,720 Speaker 1: grow seven inches like a d did. Right. I think 1507 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 1: I agree with the Griffin. I think I think kids 1508 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:39,240 Speaker 1: are coming specialized too early. I think playing basketball, playing football, 1509 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,600 Speaker 1: running track. I think, playing a lot of sports. And 1510 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,679 Speaker 1: then once you get to say you're getting high school, 1511 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,400 Speaker 1: if you want to specialize, then but you build up 1512 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 1: a lot of eye coordination, had eye coordination from playing 1513 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 1: other things. Well, I think you know, like you know, 1514 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,519 Speaker 1: you look at basketball works on your footwork, you know, 1515 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 1: football works on your football, you know, and basketball works 1516 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,600 Speaker 1: on your acceleration. And then you go back to you know, 1517 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,280 Speaker 1: the toughness of football will help you in the physicality 1518 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: of basketball. I didn't run track because baseball and track 1519 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 1: season was together. Yeah, but so I just played football 1520 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 1: and baseball. My brother played football, basketball and ran a 1521 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,880 Speaker 1: little track. But they knew that he was just there 1522 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,400 Speaker 1: to run at the end of the year, but he 1523 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,640 Speaker 1: didn't start there. But you know, like I said, man, 1524 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 1: my dad was like, hey, y'all gonna play everything. This 1525 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,160 Speaker 1: is the way we're gonna do it. You could figure 1526 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,519 Speaker 1: out that stuff later, but we're gonna do everything. And 1527 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, when my kids started, we started with motocross. 1528 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:41,880 Speaker 1: My kids rode with James Stewart. So every year, Big James, 1529 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 1: would you know, have you know Kawasaki send a little 1530 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 1: bike for my kids. One day James came over to me. 1531 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, let me talk to you. 1532 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 1: I was like, well, he was like, you think that 1533 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,880 Speaker 1: I could borrow your daughter for about two three months? 1534 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,599 Speaker 1: Like who was? She was like, I've been timing her 1535 01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 1: and she is like six seconds faster than little James 1536 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 1: at the same age, which means that she could be 1537 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all times. I was like, 1538 01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 1: huh no, my daughter's not raising here having fun. But 1539 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,880 Speaker 1: I didn't you know, she could have been. She might 1540 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 1: have could have been down to com Patrick. Yeah she 1541 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 1: do because she get a couple of speeding tickets. Really 1542 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 1: but she got the big old foot like her mama. 1543 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,920 Speaker 1: But no, it's so much you know, like I said, man, 1544 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,880 Speaker 1: we want every kid to do everything, experience everything. That's 1545 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 1: the thing. Exposure is the key for our generation and 1546 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 1: our people to to to excel. If we don't get 1547 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,559 Speaker 1: no exposure, we stuck. But you know, if we can 1548 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 1: have these kids get some exposure, and then this world 1549 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 1: will be better and we'll have no limits. Griffy, I 1550 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,800 Speaker 1: really appreciate it, bro, I know it was laughing. I 1551 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: appreciate you giving me about ninety minutes of your time. 1552 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 1: I know you're busy, but I really appreciate it. No problem. 1553 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,080 Speaker 1: Let me get those shoes two slice thirteen. When you 1554 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 1: get them thirteen, I got you, okay, because you're bout 1555 01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,599 Speaker 1: a thirteen offs, aren't you. I'm eleven. See I'm good. 1556 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 1: I got to see them big old feet. See them 1557 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,200 Speaker 1: right there, them feet right there. I'll tell my kids, 1558 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 1: because my kids are twelve and twelve and a half, 1559 01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,720 Speaker 1: I said, see mine and I got better balance. Y'all 1560 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,599 Speaker 1: got a whole lot of material that lay on the ground. 1561 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,280 Speaker 1: I can get about them things. R I appreciate it. 1562 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of the day, have a great weekend, 1563 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 1: and I'll be in touch. All right, take it ever, 1564 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:33,640 Speaker 1: go back all my life running all my life. Sacrifice, 1565 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,559 Speaker 1: Hustle back to pricing. One slice, got the browner dice 1566 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 1: to swathe all my life. I've been running in all 1567 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,320 Speaker 1: my life, All my life. The running all my life, sacrifice, 1568 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 1: Hustle back to pricing. One slice, got the broll dice 1569 01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 1: to swathe all my life. I've been running in all 1570 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 1: my life.