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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Good Evening.

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Speaker 3: Once again, Bill's Mafia please to have you with us

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Speaker 3: for a prime time AFC's matchup here at Orchard Park,

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Speaker 3: New York. It's Week five and the four and O

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills played most of the two and two New

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Speaker 3: England Patriots here at high Mark Stadium on Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 3: Samuel in motion goes in an orbit motion and now

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Speaker 3: double's back out to.

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Speaker 4: The lefties wide for five and he'll skip into the

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Speaker 4: end zone for the touchdown. Oh, the late double back

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Speaker 4: motion left Curtis Samuel wide.

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Speaker 3: Open, so it's first in goal at the five. May

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Speaker 3: under center hands it off to Stevenson lowering the shoulder

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Speaker 3: and he's in.

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Speaker 2: On a five yard touchdown run and the Patriots have

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Speaker 2: the lead back again.

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Speaker 3: Here's the staff pitch play to the left and there's

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Speaker 3: wide open running room as he's gonna walk in completely

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Speaker 3: untouched for a seven yard touchdown run. His second touchdown

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Speaker 3: run of the night, allan under center motion from Samuel

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Speaker 3: back to pass fires back.

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Speaker 4: To the end zone complete took keon Colman Agent zero

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Speaker 4: with a two yard touchdown reception and the Bills pulled

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Speaker 4: to within four with an extra point pending.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a forty five yard.

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Speaker 3: Attempt from the left hash for Prader by Ferguson, hold

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Speaker 3: by Wishnowski.

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Speaker 2: Kick by Prader is long enough and it is good.

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Speaker 3: Two seventeen left and we are tied at twenty.

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap hold this down.

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Speaker 3: Kick is plenty long enough and it is good. Fifteen

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Speaker 3: seconds remain on the clock, and the Bills are in

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Speaker 3: deep trouble.

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Speaker 2: Now down twenty three to twenty.

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Speaker 3: They could be staring their first loss of the season

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Speaker 3: square in the face. In any event, the clock has

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Speaker 3: run out on the Buffalo Bills. It is also run

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Speaker 3: out on their unblemished mark in the lost column and

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Speaker 3: on their fourteen game winning streak here at home in

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Speaker 3: the regular season.

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Speaker 2: It's all over.

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Speaker 5: That is your game.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into a Buffalo Hello Football. Monday edition of One

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Speaker 3: Bills Live. Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you after the

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Speaker 3: twenty three to twenty defeat at the hands of the

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Speaker 3: New England Patriots, Buffalo's first loss of the season, their

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Speaker 3: first division loss of the season, and the AFC East

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Speaker 3: is suddenly a race with the Patriots just a game

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Speaker 3: back of the Bills.

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Speaker 5: At three and two.

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Speaker 3: Watch your thoughts on this one front back, left, right,

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Speaker 3: and center. What were your biggest takeaways from the bills

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Speaker 3: twenty three to twenty loss to the Patriots Eight oh

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Speaker 3: three zho five fifty one eighty eight, five point fifty two,

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Speaker 3: five point fifty the number to jump on board and

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Speaker 3: we have open lines for you. But Steve, this was

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Speaker 3: a game that was largely determined by turnovers. Bills have

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Speaker 3: three in the game, Patriots have one. Bills don't get

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Speaker 3: any points off turnovers. The Patriots get ten points off

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Speaker 3: turnovers in a three point victory.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Josh, the fumble by Keon down in the Bills

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Speaker 6: inside the ten yard line certainly was a was a

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Speaker 6: big one. Josh throwing the interception, trying to fit it

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Speaker 6: into Keon and he said, you know, he just a

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Speaker 6: little bit of an inaccurate throw, just a little behind

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Speaker 6: him and gave the defender a chance to pick it off.

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Speaker 6: That was also in New England's red zone. So all

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Speaker 6: of those two turnovers alone lead to points for for

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Speaker 6: the Patriots and again and taking them off for the Bills. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the Bills didn't play the way they were the kind

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Speaker 6: of football we've seen him play up to this point,

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Speaker 6: and you know, that's that's why they lose. They've got

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Speaker 6: a way to play that they that are hard, they're

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Speaker 6: impossible to beat when they stick to it. Patriots did

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Speaker 6: a good job of getting them out of that. Bill's

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Speaker 6: defense actually played pretty good when he's talk about, you know,

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Speaker 6: and two turnovers in the red zone.

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Speaker 7: Uh, well one in your own red zone.

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Speaker 6: It's a pretty good performance by the Bills defense when

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Speaker 6: you when it's all said and done, you could see

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Speaker 7: Though.

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Speaker 6: I described it last week as it's going to be

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Speaker 6: a rock fight, and it certainly was. It was one

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Speaker 6: of those games where the Bills did more than hold

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Speaker 6: their own in every category statistically. But it's you know,

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Speaker 6: kick a late field goal to tie it up and

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Speaker 6: they were able to get the last points on the

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Speaker 6: to look like. It went to exactly what it needed

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Speaker 6: The Bills are still a really difficult team to beat,

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Speaker 6: and last night was you know, proves exactly that a

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Speaker 6: lot of things had to swing for the Patriots. They

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Speaker 6: had to get some superlative efforts from Steph Diggs, who

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Speaker 6: came in and showed out. It was exactly the kind

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Speaker 6: of game Steph Diggs used to play for the Buffalo Bills, exactly.

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Speaker 7: He helped the other team last night.

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Speaker 3: Well, he talked a lot last week. I'll give Steve credit.

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Speaker 3: He had a sinking feeling on Tuesday that the Bills

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Speaker 3: were going to lose this game. He ended up being correct,

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Speaker 3: and I think it was a byproduct of watching sloppy

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Speaker 3: play the last two weeks in ten point victories and

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Speaker 3: eleven point victories. You saw it coming and it was

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Speaker 3: a classic Mike Vrabel coached game.

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Speaker 5: The Bills out gained.

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Speaker 3: The Patriots more rushing yards, more passing yards, nine minutes

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Speaker 3: more time of possession, but in the end, it's a

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty game and the Patriots makes some plays at

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Speaker 3: the end to kick a game winning field goal. That

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Speaker 3: is how Mike Vrabel coaches when he has less talent.

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Speaker 7: Than you do.

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Speaker 3: He will muck up a game, keep his team in it,

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Speaker 3: and if they can make some plays at the end,

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Speaker 3: they have a chance to win. And they did so.

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Speaker 3: The Bill's fourteen game home regular season win streak comes

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Speaker 3: to an end as they fumble away a division game

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Speaker 3: against an upstart Patriots team that has their franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They haven't put all the other pieces together, but New

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Speaker 3: England played a cleaner game than the Bills, and it

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Speaker 3: was enough to win twenty three twenty Stefan Diggs and

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Speaker 3: his return Ernest Steve mentioned for the first time since

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Speaker 3: being traded, ten catches one hundred forty six yards instrumental

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Speaker 3: in the effort, including the final drive. But Drake May

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Speaker 3: being the third down conversion on the game winning drive

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Speaker 3: with Daykwon Jones dragging him to the ground. He not

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Speaker 3: throw to Stefan Diggs to extend that drive. And if

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Speaker 3: you look at Drake May, I told you last week

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Speaker 3: people were poo pooing me on social media. Ah my god,

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of you fawning all over the Patriots. Whatever

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Speaker 3: they don't have anything. It's gonna be thirty one seventeen Bills.

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Speaker 3: Drake May is now fifth in the league in passing yards.

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Speaker 3: He's second in completion percentage, fifth in yards per attempt,

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Speaker 3: sixth in passer rating, fourteenth in touchdown to interception ratio.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be a problem for years to come,

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Speaker 3: and he's only getting better.

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Speaker 5: So just putting that out there.

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Speaker 3: As we said, Buffalo returnovers in the game, which New

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Speaker 3: England turned into ten points. Bill's defense, to Steve's point,

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Speaker 3: played well enough for the Bills to win this game.

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Speaker 3: They got a takeaway one play after the Bills fumbled

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Speaker 3: it on a bad exchange. The offense doesn't turn it

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Speaker 3: into points, they go four and out. It was the

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Speaker 3: first game Buffalo has had three turnovers since the regular

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Speaker 3: season finale in Miami in twenty twenty three, and the

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Speaker 3: Bill still won that game twenty one to fourteen to

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Speaker 3: take the division title. James cook streak of one hundred

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Speaker 3: yard rushing games also comes to an end. He had

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Speaker 3: gone three straight, but last night just forty nine yards

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Speaker 3: for me. Josh Allen in his last four games against

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Speaker 3: he played just one snap. He's now two and two

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Speaker 3: in his last four games against New England, and in

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Speaker 3: those last four meetings, Allen has gone eighty for one

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Speaker 3: thirty one passing for a sixty one percent completion rate,

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Speaker 3: protection has been generally pretty good. He's averaged six point

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Speaker 3: seventy nine to seven. And that's against three different New

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Speaker 3: England coaching staffs over that span, Belichick, Gerrodmeo, and now vrabel.

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Speaker 3: So to me, the common denominator is Buffalo's offense and

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Speaker 3: for whatever reason, they can't put it together against this team.

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Speaker 3: And it was not a great defense the last two years.

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Speaker 3: I think it's better this year. Barmore's back healthy, Milton

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Speaker 3: Williams is a presence on the interior, and those two

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Speaker 5: Up the game.

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Speaker 3: And on the back end, you can argue separation was

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Speaker 3: a problem, but Steve, I think there were times where

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Speaker 3: think all you roll it all together. It's a combination

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Speaker 3: of issues. But as an eleven man unit, the Bills

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Speaker 3: offense looked very disjointed last night.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's what the Patriots have been able to do.

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Speaker 6: They you know, the plus you know, the penalties were

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Speaker 6: an enormous problem early in this game. They came out

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Speaker 6: of the first half eight penalties for sixty five yards

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Speaker 6: I think something like that, and they could never know

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Speaker 6: even close, the drop pass by keon crucial mistakes that

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Speaker 6: you just can't have, ease can't have. And even so

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Speaker 6: having a chance to win it at the end or

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Speaker 6: being that close.

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Speaker 7: At the end.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's there's still a better football team than the Patriots,

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Speaker 6: but didn't play well on.

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Speaker 5: That day and it's played better.

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Speaker 6: The Patriots played better. Drake, as you said, is a

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Speaker 6: good quarterback and now he's got a weapon on the

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Speaker 6: outside of Steph Diggs who was playing like his hair

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Speaker 6: was on fire. Like we've seen him do for this team.

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Speaker 6: You gotta have an answer for that. The Bill's defense,

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Speaker 6: while it was it did hold them to twenty three

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Speaker 6: points with the late field goal steady not spectacular. They

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Speaker 6: could not get Drake May on the ground. Now, certainly

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Speaker 6: he got a couple of sacks, but most of those

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Speaker 6: sacks were because he the coverage held up and he

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Speaker 6: The throw he made with Daikwon Jones hanging all over

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Speaker 6: him was an all timer to Steph Diggs, and of

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Speaker 6: course Steph made something out of it after he caught

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Speaker 6: the ball. So yeah, they there's like three or four

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Speaker 6: things you can point to, the Bill's turnovers, the Bill's penalties,

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Speaker 6: and Drake May doing some stuff that was amazing, with

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Speaker 6: were also off the hook. You know, all that stuff

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Speaker 6: don't win that game. If even one of those things

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Speaker 6: They're gonna get some mileage out of this. For the Bills.

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Speaker 6: Sure it's a it's certainly a voted the signature one

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Speaker 5: And the Patriots with their soft schedule, Yeah, the.

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Speaker 3: We do need to tell you that this week's game

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Speaker 3: They are the official airline of the Buffalo Bills. Steve

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Speaker 5: How about that. Yeah, that's right, got back in time

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Speaker 6: Yes, But getting back to this, they played the Saints,

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Speaker 7: Now. They may struggle with Cleveland oddly.

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Speaker 6: Because they've got an outstanding defense. But yeah, they're gonna

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Speaker 8: M H.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Let's check in on the standings and find out who

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Speaker 5: Four and one.

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Speaker 3: There are no more undefeated teams in the NFL after

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Speaker 3: Denver gets a huge road way at Philadelphia. They improved

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Speaker 6: Those that has two huge wins for those for those teams,

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Speaker 5: That game's in Jacksonville. It's not an arrowhead.

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Speaker 6: We've all seen help the Chiefs enough. We've had a

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Speaker 6: That is an It's an enormous step up in weight

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Speaker 7: Well, that would be a statement win for Jacksonville if

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Speaker 5: No question you've got at home.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna quickly whip around the NFL here, presented by

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Speaker 3: a Kalida Healthy Official Healthcare System of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 3: and then we'll get to your phone calls here. So

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Speaker 3: just a quick look around the NFL. Tennessee Titans overcome

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Speaker 5: A colossal collapse by the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Week one in twenty twenty four was when.

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Speaker 5: That last happened.

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Speaker 6: It is hard to close out a game. It's so

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's a Topsy Turvey, oh my gosh league. And

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Speaker 3: I think with no undefeated teams after five weeks, it's

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Speaker 3: It's already the most through five weeks of a season

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Speaker 5: There has been very little in between.

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Speaker 6: You look at this even as fouls team, I just

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Speaker 7: Yesterday they did not play.

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Speaker 6: They were they're coming off the by against the Bills

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Speaker 7: Zero to thirty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, shutout, and then they won yesterday against the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 6: They've played last week, last week, they have played well

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Speaker 5: So it's they're very inconsistent.

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Speaker 6: It's it's a testament to how this season is going

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Speaker 3: Perhaps the most entertaining game was the Bucks and Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay wins thirty eight to thirty five. On Chase

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Speaker 5: They are the cardiac Bucks.

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Speaker 6: In every they they were down twenty eight to thirty five,

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Speaker 7: And I can't remember.

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Speaker 6: I think they got it back on a punt or

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Speaker 6: I think they got it back on a turnover. It

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Speaker 7: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Into that game, you know, Tampa Bay goes from walking

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Speaker 6: the game. It was Yes, I watched the entire end

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Speaker 6: of it and some of these you just don't die,

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Speaker 6: You just never say die.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Let's get to the phones, though, as we want

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Speaker 3: to know what you took away from yesterday's lost to

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Speaker 10: Hi, guys? Yes, thanks. I think one thing that the

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Speaker 10: they'll be able to pop back from that nightmare of

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Speaker 10: the game yesterday. It seems when they're on a winning

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Speaker 10: and don't play with the urgency they need for each

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Speaker 10: and every game. Don't forget the other teams are getting

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Speaker 10: better too, and we need to be well prepared. The

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Speaker 10: other thing that was apparently clear to me was that

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Speaker 10: after the first quarter the running game didn't seem to

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Speaker 10: made some adjustments, they did some throws, they we were

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Speaker 10: the running game again. I'm just saying we can't be

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Speaker 10: their Super Bowl. We have wide receivers and weapons and

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Speaker 10: tight ends. We need to use them. Kinkaid played a

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Speaker 10: fantastic game yesterday. We needed to maybe use hawes and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the one dimensional thing was largely a byproduct of

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Speaker 3: their own inefficiency on offense. The penalties put them behind

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Speaker 3: it's second and eleven or first in twenty, like, it

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Speaker 3: just puts you in a bad spot, and you're asking

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Speaker 3: just trying to beat the Patriots, you're trying to beat

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Speaker 3: the down and distance with a limited choice of plays

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Speaker 3: why they became one dimensional through their own difficiencies and

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Speaker 6: I could see it as well in body language and

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Speaker 5: Of the huddle in the black emergency right.

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Speaker 6: Their body language was like they were having these they

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Speaker 6: instead of first and ten, we're on our own forty

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Speaker 6: it's you know, second and twenty five. You know the

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Speaker 6: I'm exaggerating, I don't know think exactly, but you'd get

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Speaker 6: a not only do you get the penalty, you'd lose

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Speaker 6: the good play that you had on a.

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Speaker 7: Tiki tack hole. You know. Now we got backed up.

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Speaker 6: Now it's like, come on, it's it's a crusher for

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Speaker 6: And now it's the same play again and you're back

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Speaker 7: You could see.

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Speaker 6: It really sucked the life out of the enthusiasm, the crowd,

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Speaker 6: in his playbook because he's got to go back to

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Speaker 6: where he was a minute ago instead of going forward

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Speaker 6: to where they they thought they'd earned. Really herky jerky

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Speaker 6: first half that I thought not all of them were

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Speaker 6: bad calls. Nobody would have looked twice, if any none

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Speaker 6: of them would have been made because they were all,

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Speaker 6: you know, touchy.

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Speaker 7: I thought so soccules.

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Speaker 3: Crew typically calls tight games, and that might be something

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Speaker 3: you have to adjust to through the first quarter. But

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Speaker 3: after that, you know they're watching. What I don't you

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Speaker 3: got you gotta really be mindful of that.

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Speaker 6: What I don't get is if they're calling tight games,

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Speaker 6: you can't tell me that the holding call on Connor

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Speaker 6: McGovern wasn't didn't happen on a run play that the

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Speaker 6: Patriots had on their center.

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Speaker 5: Well, this is what Hocule's crew does.

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Speaker 7: I don't know why. It's very eight for one team

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Speaker 7: and two for the other. It looks like, well, why you.

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Speaker 3: Just it's very lopsided. We've seen it from him before.

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Speaker 3: Steve I mentioned it on the broadcast last night. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: goes eight to two at halftime penalties bills to Eagles,

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Speaker 3: eight for the Bills, two for the for the for

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Speaker 3: the Patriots. And then the second half it almost flipped,

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Speaker 3: which is what he did. What he does his crew

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Speaker 3: does that. They actually I'll bet I am willing to

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Speaker 3: bet they go into the locker room, they say, oh,

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Speaker 3: what's the count on penalties. By the way, it looks

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Speaker 3: a little lopside. It's eight to two Bills, but we

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Speaker 3: got to make some calls on the Patriots here, So

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Speaker 3: be ready to throw the flag because it happened two

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Speaker 3: years ago in Philadelphia in a rainstorm. Halftime penalties for

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Speaker 3: the Bills, ten penalties for the Eagles.

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Speaker 11: One.

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Speaker 3: What was the crew Sean Hockey. It happens all the time,

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Speaker 3: and it's not just.

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Speaker 5: With the Bills. He does it with other teams too.

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Speaker 3: It's lopside in the first half, and then they have

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Speaker 3: makeup calls in the second half to even it out

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Speaker 3: so they don't get called into question.

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Speaker 5: They do it routinely. They insert themselves into the game

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Speaker 5: more than any other crew I have ever seen.

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Speaker 6: Let's say that that was the com conversation and the guy,

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Speaker 6: you know, I sit in the back of the radio

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Speaker 6: booth with John Murphy, Maddy glab Brandon from g R

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Speaker 6: Braden Wilson was gr all the We got a crew

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Speaker 6: of people to watch the game from behind, Brownie and

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Speaker 6: Eric Wood, and the whole conversation at halftime was discussed

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Speaker 6: at the penalties that were being called. We had people

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Speaker 6: coming into the booth talking like that. So it was

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Speaker 6: people were beside themselves watching that game at how difficult

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Speaker 6: it was for the Bills to put together any continuity

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Speaker 6: as an offensive drive. Uh, because of the plays that

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Speaker 6: didn't count. And yeah, so it was. It was just

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Speaker 6: a frustrating game to watch, no question about it. I

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Speaker 6: know from from being a former player. Really difficult to

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Speaker 6: get your mind around, what what are we going to

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Speaker 6: do next? Because you've had some plays that were successful

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Speaker 6: but got called back. How do you handle those in

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Speaker 6: your own mentality? Are we playing good or are we

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Speaker 6: not playing good?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 7: Well, basically the thing and.

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Speaker 3: There were so many flags in the first half at

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Speaker 3: one point that the crowd was no longer booing any team.

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Speaker 3: They were booing the officials because they would not stop

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Speaker 3: throwing flags. I mean there was like five or six

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Speaker 3: plays consecutively that flags were thrown, and it got to

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Speaker 3: a point where the crowd is just like, you are

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Speaker 3: completely ruining this game. For me, it is unwatchable because

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Speaker 3: you continue to throw flags. They were booing the refs

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Speaker 3: for throwing too many flags. That's how bad it got.

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Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here, but more of your phone

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Speaker 3: calls when we come back Benjamin and Medina, Matthew and

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Speaker 3: East Aurora will lead us off when we return here

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Speaker 3: on a Buffalo Football Monday on One Bills Live presented

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Speaker 3: by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Ty Johnson into the game.

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Speaker 3: Alan back to pass, looking left now middle pressure coming

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Speaker 3: has to avoid it, steps up, fires, and it's complete

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Speaker 3: to Kincaid at midfield. Another first down for Buffalo as

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Speaker 3: Kincaid is feasting at the second level. Your Player of

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Speaker 3: Bills because life Kincaid with six receptions for a career

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Speaker 3: single game high one hundred and eight receiving yards, unfortunately

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Speaker 3: not enough in the twenty three to twenty loss to

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Speaker 3: the Patriots on Sunday Night Football. Chris Brown Steve Tasker

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Speaker 3: with you on a Buffalo Football Monday after the bills

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Speaker 3: first loss of the season. Want to get right back

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Speaker 3: to the phones at eight three zero, five point fifty

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Speaker 3: and leading us off this segment is Benjamin in Medina.

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Speaker 5: What do you got forst? Benjamin?

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, how's it going? Just a couple quick things

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Speaker 12: that I was finding. First off, I know that we

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Speaker 12: couldn't run the balls. We quit that, which I thought

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Speaker 12: was good. But I was curious why Allen didn't take

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Speaker 12: more checkdowns to any of the running backs. It seemed

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Speaker 12: to James Cook didn't have a single reception and he

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Speaker 12: kept trying to push it down. I think it caused

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Speaker 12: some of the mistakes that was caused. Obviously, the reason

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Speaker 12: we lost was the penalties and turnovers, which our killer.

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Speaker 12: That's why I'm not too worried about it. It's not

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Speaker 12: a characteristic thing that the Bills had done. Just curious

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Speaker 12: and your thoughts on the checkdowns.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys, Yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 6: But I'll say this too, I agree with you. I

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Speaker 6: saw there were times when I thought Josh passed up

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Speaker 6: easier completions in order to try and get a bigger chunk.

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Speaker 3: It's a trap we see him fall into sometimes, Steve,

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Speaker 3: when the offense is disjointed and they're struggling to put

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Speaker 3: points on the board. I think occasionally Josh puts too

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Speaker 3: much of it on himself to make a game changing play,

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Speaker 3: and it was still a tight game. He probably could

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Speaker 3: have stayed within the framework of the offense and take

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Speaker 3: what the defense gives him. I thought that was a

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Speaker 3: step he made in his game last year. We saw

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Speaker 3: it early this year, and I think he got away

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Speaker 3: from that last night little bit looking to get it

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Speaker 3: all in one play down the field with a low

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Speaker 3: percentage play rather than sticking with some of the higher

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Speaker 3: percentage stuff. The structure of the plays that Joe Brady

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Speaker 3: was calling a fair amount of the time were working

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Speaker 3: in players getting open, and Josh at times not the

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Speaker 3: whole game. At times was trying to be too aggressive

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Speaker 3: in getting it all in one play, or was leaving

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Speaker 3: the pocket too early, which compromises the structure of.

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Speaker 6: A play, so that all that was in the mix.

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Speaker 6: And you're but you're right. I thought, obviously it wasn't

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Speaker 6: Josh's best game, and I think you could kind of

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Speaker 6: read it on his face in his postgame comments blaming

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Speaker 6: himself for the pick when he's trying to fit it

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Speaker 6: into Shakir on bad throw and just not enough completions,

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Speaker 6: you know. So I'm and there were easy early completions

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Speaker 6: to be I'm talking about early in the down, getting

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Speaker 6: it out of his hand a little faster that he

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Speaker 6: passed up because he wanted to buy more time, give

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Speaker 6: guys a chance to get open. I don't think they

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Speaker 6: were helping him enough in the back end and down

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Speaker 6: the field, guys getting open, working hard to you know,

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Speaker 6: shake their defender. He could have used some more help

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Speaker 6: and they didn't get it.

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Speaker 5: To Matthew in East Aurora.

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Speaker 13: What's up, Matthew, Hey, guys, I want to talk about

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Speaker 13: Dig's behavior that I noticed last night at the game.

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Speaker 13: He was the last Patriot on the field after warm up,

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Speaker 13: stapping up some of his former teammates and coaches, and

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Speaker 13: then even on a Keith down in the fourth he

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Speaker 13: was up on the sideline encouraging teammates to stay up

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Speaker 13: and share for the defense. It's clear that like he

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Speaker 13: sees himself as a big time leader, and I know

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Speaker 13: he's known as a competitive threat, but I was wondering

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Speaker 13: if you guys could talk about maybe his intentionality to

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Speaker 13: in certain selves have that kind of presence and why

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Speaker 13: that's why, Yeah, he had a lot of success here,

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Speaker 13: but ultimately why he was traded or why Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the postgame interview with Melissa Stark on

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Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football at the end of the game was

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Speaker 3: very telling.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 3: She asked him how he feels he has matured as

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Speaker 3: a leader, and he said he has in the last

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Speaker 3: two years for whatever reason, whether it be the hardships

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Speaker 3: he personally experienced with an acl knee injury after going

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Speaker 3: to the Texans because they made him a captain down there.

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Speaker 5: After he was traded there. And I believe, isn't he

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Speaker 5: a captain with the Patriots. I think he is.

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Speaker 3: He thinks, yeah, I don't think he's got to see

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Speaker 3: on his jersey, but he is a veteran leader on

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Speaker 3: that team. And he said, I feel like I've matured

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Speaker 3: a lot as a leader. And look, when he was here,

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Speaker 3: he brought juice to the practice setting. He would challenge

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Speaker 3: guys to play their best against him, and he would

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Speaker 3: chirp at people that he didn't think were working as

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Speaker 3: hard as he was in the practice setting. He leveled

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Speaker 3: up the intensity of practice here in his years in Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: And there were some other stuff that compromised the team concept,

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Speaker 3: I think, which largely I think the Bills kept under wraps.

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Speaker 3: And that's some of the off the field drama stuff

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Speaker 3: that you heard about regarding him. And will never know

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Speaker 3: the exact nature of what that was, but obviously it

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Speaker 3: had reached a level combined with his lack of production

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, where the Bills just said it's not

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Speaker 3: worth the juice, is not worth the squeeze anymore, We're

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Speaker 3: going to trade him even with a thirty one million

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Speaker 3: dollar cap hit, which I think is an indication of

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Speaker 3: just what they were probably dealing with. And I think

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Speaker 3: since then, Stefan, who is now an older player, still

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Speaker 3: very productive. But I don't think the explosive athlete that

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Speaker 3: he used to be recognizes that his value is in

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Speaker 3: helping keep drives alive with short to intermediate passing and

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Speaker 3: his leadership, and he gets guys juiced up. I don't

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Speaker 3: think there's any question about that, and maybe he is

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Speaker 3: a better leader with less drama now at this stage

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Speaker 3: of his career.

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Speaker 6: Steph reminded us of the kind of player he was

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Speaker 6: for Buffalo. He was a great player during games, and.

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Speaker 7: It's also a testament.

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Speaker 6: Steph was great here when he was playing well and

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Speaker 6: getting a lot of targets and catching a lot of balls. Yep,

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Speaker 6: when he wasn't, he wasn't. So last night was one

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Speaker 6: of those games where the Patriots got all of the

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Speaker 6: good Steph. You know, he was getting targets, he was

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Speaker 6: making plays, and and that that's when Steph is at

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Speaker 6: his best. When he's best, you're the best version of him.

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Speaker 6: When that's why at times it got a little cumbersome

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Speaker 6: when Josh felt the need to feed him the ball

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Speaker 6: even when there were other guys that should have gotten

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Speaker 6: the ball, and he had this Imbouand you know, Steph's

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Speaker 6: it's great when it's going great.

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Speaker 7: Steph is great.

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Speaker 6: Leadership shows up when it's not going great, when you

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Speaker 6: need a guy to elevate guys when it's tough and

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Speaker 6: when they're not the center part of the offense. So

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Speaker 6: and that's when he wasn't That's when he wasn't great.

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Speaker 6: Last night, you got the best version of him, no

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Speaker 6: question about it, and the Patriots knew it. And I

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Speaker 6: think that probably tells the Patriots something about the kind

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Speaker 6: of player he can be as well.

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Speaker 3: And I would say the other difference is outside of

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00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: Hunter Henry, who else is Strake may throw into in

663
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: that offense. That's right, it's Diggs and Henry, that's it.

664
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: Maybe an occasional throw to Kashawn Booty, maybe a throw

665
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 3: out of the backfield to one of the backs, but

666
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: it's the Henry and dig show.

667
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that works for Diggs.

668
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's they They'll be able to tap into him

669
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 6: a lot.

670
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 5: And let's see how he looks in the second half.

671
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 6: You saw, you saw how energized he was on the sidelines,

672
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 6: like you know, the caller said, Matthew said, Yeah.

673
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 5: When when it's going good, when.

674
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 6: If they would Steph would have been that guy. He

675
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 6: would have had a great game in the loss if

676
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 6: they if the Bills, you know, if if the Patriots

677
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 6: turn it over like Drake May fumbles, if the Bills

678
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 6: fall on it, they go down, they get a field goal,

679
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 6: and they're the ones who win the game. Steph looks

680
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 6: like a hero in that game because he's out of

681
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 6: there elevating, you know, he's doing the all right stuff.

682
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 6: It's the other kind of games when when it doesn't

683
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 6: go the Patriots way and he's not involved as he

684
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 6: wants to be that it it's tough and becomes a

685
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 6: little bit of a burden.

686
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 5: Let's see if he can sustain it.

687
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And because his last two years in Buffalo, we

688
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: all remember lights out the first eight games of the

689
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: season and then all of a sudden, he can't separate

690
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: in the second half because his body's tired or whatever

691
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: it is. And some of it's his own doing because

692
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: he works so hard in practice. I think he runs

693
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: his legs right out of gas for the second half

694
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: of the season. He can't give you anything in the

695
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: second half of the year. Let's see how he looks

696
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: at age thirty two back half of the schedule.

697
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 6: That's the kind But let's face it, you got to

698
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 6: tip your hat to him. That is the kind of

699
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 6: player he was for Buffalo when he was at best.

700
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 6: He had he had one of his best best, probably

701
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 6: the best game he had in two years, two and

702
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 6: a half years for in the NFL last night against

703
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 6: this team. So, uh, you got the very best look

704
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 6: at what Steph Diggs is and has been in the NFL,

705
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 6: and you know, tip your hat to him.

706
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 7: You gotta hand it to him. It really was.

707
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: Let's go to Kevin and Hamburg next. Let's push him

708
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: up here. What's up Kevin?

709
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, how you doing for digging my call? Our

710
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 14: defense did some good things, but we could not keep

711
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 14: up with him. But I think I want to quote

712
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 14: Vit Krutchy last night after the game, and I'm sure

713
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 14: you're gonna hear it plenty of times slopping, undisciplined, and

714
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 14: not so much the turn owners because you know it's

715
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 14: gonna come against the team whose defensive mind and coaches

716
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 14: like Rabo who learned from one of the best, who

717
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 14: learned from also one of the best in the Tuna.

718
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 15: But the dumb.

719
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 14: Penalties is not so much the holding. You're gonna get holding,

720
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 14: you're gonna get past interference. But the dumb ones that

721
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 14: really drive you nuts, like knowing that you can't line

722
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 14: up on the offensive side uncovered when the Patriot did

723
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 14: it too. So those things like that are the ones

724
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 14: that more make you want to go nuts than you

725
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 14: know everything they can call, the holding and stuff like that.

726
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 14: Those those ones you know when you're a football player,

727
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 14: you can't line up a certain way without being called

728
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 14: or not called, and those things. And I think, maybe

729
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 14: I don't know, if somebody's sitting, maybe we need a

730
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 14: wake up call, and maybe that might be good. Sometimes

731
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 14: we need a wake up call because we in the

732
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 14: same game, we didn't do that wonderful. You know, we

733
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 14: won by twelve points, so we need those weights. I

734
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 14: need need a wake up call, even if the L

735
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 14: instead of a W. So I'll let you go go

736
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 14: on to say what you're gonna say.

737
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was sloppy. I mean, Josh said it was sloppy.

738
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: It's been sloppy the last three weeks. They were just

739
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: able to overcome it with enough good play to win

740
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: the previous two games, but their play has not been

741
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: air tight for three weeks. So we kind of saw

742
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: this coming. You knew eventually, because the NFL is too competitive,

743
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: the margins are too narrow to play that way and

744
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: win consistently. You knew it was going to come home

745
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: to roost at some point in time. And it happened

746
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 3: last night.

747
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, seventeen and oh sounded great. You know, when

748
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 6: you're four to zero and you're you're humming along and

749
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 6: your and your schedule looks great and all that, you

750
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 6: kind of figured they'd stumble. And this is the way

751
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 6: it's going to look when the Bills lose. It's the

752
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 6: way it's looked for eight years. They lose close games.

753
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 6: It's you know, occasionally they get they lose by double digits,

754
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 6: but this is the way it happens. They help you,

755
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 6: they turn it over, they get some dumb penalties and

756
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 6: they get a and the other team gets a couple

757
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 6: of breaks and has a couple of plays. They make

758
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 6: a couple of plays on their own, you know, and

759
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 6: you lose by three on the last second field goal.

760
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 7: That's what losses against.

761
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 6: Josh Allen, Sean McDermott and this crew looked like m

762
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 6: They took one last night at home. It doesn't It

763
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 6: hasn't happened for a long time at home. But you

764
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 6: figured it'd be a division opponent who did it to him,

765
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 6: and that's what it was going to look like it happened.

766
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

767
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 6: There's no reason to think, Wow, they got to change

768
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 6: some things. They gotta, you know, they gotta revamp their offense.

769
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 6: They just keep on keeping on. This is they're still

770
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 6: too tough to beat. Uh to change their recipe.

771
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 5: Now, let's go to Bobby in Buffalo next. What's that Bobby?

772
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, how you doing good? Good? Chris? One thing

773
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 15: I do agree with you on, sir, sir. The biggest

774
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 15: takeaways I'll saw from the game on yesterday, of course,

775
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 15: too many penalties, too many mistakes. I mean, I'm sitting here,

776
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 15: I'm watching the game last night, and every time I

777
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 15: look up and turn around, I said, oh my god,

778
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 15: here's another penalty. Here's another penalty. If it's not a

779
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 15: holding call, it's it's it's something else. I mean, the

780
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 15: Bills have to clean that up real quick, real fast,

781
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 15: and real quick. That's number one. Number two. Everybody talking

782
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 15: about Stefan Diggs. Listen Stefan Diggs last night. I do

783
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 15: believe that he made a statement last night. That was

784
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 15: a statement for Stefan Diggs last night. I mean, Chin

785
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 15: catches one hundred and forty six yards. It seems like

786
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 15: it seemed like the Bills did not have the answer

787
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 15: to stop him on last night. I mean, every time

788
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 15: I looked up, he was making the play. I'm I'm

789
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 15: and I'm sitting there watching the game, and I'm saying

790
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 15: to myself, what is the problem?

791
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll explain it to it. I'll explain it to you, Bobby.

792
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: So thanks for the call. We're up against the break here.

793
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: But essentially in the second half, the Patriots got into

794
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: personnel grouping.

795
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 5: They liked a lot.

796
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: They had split backs in the backfield, and they use

797
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: those backs to double team the pass rushers on the

798
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: edges Russeau and Bosa most of the time because they

799
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: believed guard to guard could handle the two defensive tackles.

800
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: This is where you missed ed Oliver. You missed Ed

801
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: Oliver's pass rushing presence up the middle. They said, you

802
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: don't have Ed Oliver. We believe we can double team

803
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: you're outside rushers, max protect. We'll give Drake May a

804
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: half an hour to throw the football, and our three

805
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: guys in routes will beat whoever you have on the

806
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: back end, because we don't believe you can cover for

807
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: five seconds. And more often than not, Drake May had

808
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: a half an hour back there to throw the football.

809
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: Because the edge rushers were double teamed. The Bills decided

810
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: to commit to coverage, feeling they could cover up three

811
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: guys with five. They couldn't, and Stefan Diggs had a

812
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: field day out there. That's why the Bills did not

813
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: have an answer for that. Now, defensively, they had an

814
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: answer for a lot of other things. They held the

815
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: run game to three point one per carry. They kept

816
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: Drake May in the pocket. That's probably the least I've

817
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: seen him run all season, because he has been a

818
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: menace running out of the pocket. They kept him contained

819
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: for the most part. And look, they got two stops

820
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: in the red zone. They got a takeaway that the

821
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: offense did nothing with, and on a fumble by Kean

822
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: Coleman at the ten yard line, they hold the Patriots

823
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: to a field goal, and at the end of the

824
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: half they hold him to another field goal on a

825
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: goal to go situation.

826
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 5: The defense did a lot right.

827
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: They didn't have an answer for that personnel grouping, and

828
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: the Patriots used it almost the entire second.

829
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: Half, and that was the problem. Yeah, that's why Diggs

830
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 5: did what he did.

831
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they max protected. It was a little bit

832
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 6: like I don't Yeah, I'm not. It's a little bit

833
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 6: like Super Bowl twenty six. The Redskins kept eight guys

834
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 6: in the box, max protected, sent three guys out, and

835
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 6: just gave their quarterback and their wide receivers all the

836
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 6: time they needed.

837
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 7: And that was what it took. You got to have

838
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 7: an answer for that.

839
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 6: Somebody's got to win up front against a double team,

840
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 6: and that's you know, until you do that.

841
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: But that's where your shorthanded personnel wise hurts you and

842
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: the and the Patriots, to their credit, knew that the

843
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: Bills were down in personnel. Milano's out of the game already,

844
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: he's hurt with the pack again. You have no Ed

845
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: Oliver and you don't have cornerback depth, and you're playing

846
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: with who you're playing with, and they felt they could

847
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: beat those guys and they did.

848
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 5: And it's as simple as that.

849
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 3: There's a point of time where a coordinator can only

850
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: do so much.

851
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 5: I'm not putting this game on Babbage. I'm not putting

852
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 5: it on the defense.

853
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: It's sloppy offense, turnover football and not cashing in the

854
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: red zone enough.

855
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 7: That's why. That's it.

856
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 6: That's also why a guy like Steph Diggs busted out

857
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 6: last night. That's his forete getting open. He's a route runner, separator,

858
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 6: and the Bills.

859
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 5: Are shorthanded defensive.

860
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 6: They used him like that and that's why he was

861
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 6: and that's why he was the guy. And the Bills defense,

862
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 6: you know, it wasn't like they completely were stymied. I mean,

863
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 6: you got Drake Made doing some stuff. I mean he

864
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: played well, made some plays when there wasn't a play

865
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 6: to be made. Steph Diggs made a couple probably there

866
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 6: were two catches on the sideline that were all timers.

867
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 6: And then there was also the Daique Jones dragged down

868
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 6: where you know makes an all world he makes an

869
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 6: all world play, and you know they turned nothing into something.

870
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 7: That kind of stuff happens.

871
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 6: It took all of those things, the penalties, the turnovers,

872
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 6: and that offensive scheme and the guys jumping out of

873
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 6: their skin offensively to make plays. It took all of

874
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 6: that to beat the Bills in that building last night.

875
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: Gotta take it, but they did. Gotta take a break here,

876
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: Maria phone calls. When we get back on a Buffalo

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 7: John?

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Speaker 16: Hey, what's going on there?

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Speaker 16: Chris and Steve? I just want to let you know

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Speaker 16: you two gentlemen, are are excellent broadcasters, and you've got

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Speaker 16: a way of explaining different plays and ways that the

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Speaker 16: defenses are set up in there. I want to feelk

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Speaker 16: you for your expertise.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 16: Thank you, and I love both of yous. You our

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Speaker 16: two fantastic Buffalo Bills Borders. I thank you so much.

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Speaker 17: As being the fans.

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Speaker 16: Say this, I've been noticing that on the left hand

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Speaker 16: side of our defense, they've been going to that side

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Speaker 16: a lot. They've been when we had a couple of

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Speaker 16: touched up down runs on the on the left hand side.

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Speaker 16: And then I noticed that we were like we were

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Speaker 16: the last undefeated team and and and and when they

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Speaker 16: when the game opened up, we know, we were noticing

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Speaker 16: all the penalties that they kept calling on the Bills

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Speaker 16: and that and UH. And then I was watching, you know,

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Speaker 16: like when they were driving down for the last UH

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Speaker 16: to tie the game up. I saw that one throw

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Speaker 16: that he threw the Kahil Shakir, and I thought that

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Speaker 16: the player, the defenseman hit hit the guy a little

914
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Speaker 16: seemed like it was early. I don't know if you

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Speaker 16: saw the scene.

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Speaker 5: We felt the same way.

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Speaker 6: It was a little early. But here's the problem. What

918
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Speaker 6: they call those are bang bang plays. They will they

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Speaker 6: won't call a contact when the ball's coming in if

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Speaker 6: if it's a bang bang play when it's that's what

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Speaker 6: they call it. Yes, he might have been there fraction

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Speaker 6: of a second early, there's no question he was. In fact,

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Speaker 6: that was probably as borderline as you can get and

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Speaker 6: still have it be a bang bang play.

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Speaker 5: But when you call a game as tight as hockey

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Speaker 5: Les's crew.

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Speaker 7: Was, that's a surprising non call. Should be calling it.

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Speaker 7: It's a surprising non call.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like you gotta be if you're going to call

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Speaker 3: a game tight, be consistent in calling it tight from

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Speaker 3: front to back.

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Speaker 5: And they did not do that on that play. And

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Speaker 5: that's what Earth fans.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here as we're up against it.

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Speaker 3: But more of your phone calls as we are wide open,

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Speaker 3: and our number two here on A Buffalo Football Monday,

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Speaker 3: will lead off with Scott in Nashville.

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Speaker 5: But if you're holding it.

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Speaker 3: Eight h three zero, we will get to you in

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Speaker 3: the next segment on A Buffalo Football Monday. Here on

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Speaker 3: One Bill's Live, Stay with us.

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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 5: Our number two.

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Speaker 3: On a Buffalo Football Monday, Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you,

946
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Speaker 3: asking you for your biggest takeaways from last night's twenty

947
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Speaker 3: three twenty defeat at the hands of the Patriots. Default

948
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Speaker 3: to four and one on the season, and you get

949
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Speaker 3: right back to the phones. As we have a lot

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Speaker 3: of people waiting on hold, and we go to Scott

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Speaker 3: in Nashville first, as promised, what's up, Scott?

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Speaker 17: Okay, Fellas, I got two things.

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Speaker 18: I was serious and one a beautiful job explaining why.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 18: I think everybody loves Strake May as a quarterback prospect

956
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Speaker 18: and going to be a good player. But there wasn't

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Speaker 18: a weren't too many times where I said last night, Oh,

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Speaker 18: what a throw or what a great what a great catch?

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Speaker 18: They were wide open and I didn't know what was

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Speaker 18: going on. But I mean if they were uncovered, I

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Speaker 18: think in the second half he was thirteen for fourteen.

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Speaker 18: Ye and the only past they defense was AJ got

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Speaker 18: a tip. I mean it was just yeah I had.

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Speaker 18: But so thanks for explaining what was going on. I

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Speaker 18: feel a lot better about it. I'm kind of a

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Speaker 18: long game guy. Total confidence in mcdermody, who I think

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Speaker 18: his best quality is he's able to steer the ship

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Speaker 18: through the rocky season a season and get it into port.

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Speaker 18: He's kind of proven that over and over. My second

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Speaker 18: point is Josh buying time and guys coming open.

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Speaker 17: Why are we not or not me?

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Speaker 18: But what is just not connected with Palmer the way

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Speaker 18: I think we all thought he kind of would. Any

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Speaker 18: thoughts on.

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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I think it's a valid question because the

976
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Speaker 3: production has been minimal. I think he had five catches

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Speaker 3: in Week one when they had to go all out

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Speaker 3: pass mode in the second half, and after that, I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's had more than two receptions in any

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Speaker 3: one game.

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Speaker 6: So, yeah, Palmer's got twelve catches for one hundred and

982
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Speaker 6: seventy four yards out in five games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it hasn't materialized. I can't speak to exactly what

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Speaker 3: the main crux.

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Speaker 5: Of the problem is. It's probably a number of things.

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Speaker 3: But there have been times where he has been running

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Speaker 3: open and Josh doesn't see him. There are other times

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Speaker 3: where maybe separation is a little more difficult. We already

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Speaker 3: touched on last night where there were times where there

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Speaker 3: were underneath receivers open Josh decided to wait on a

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Speaker 3: deeper ball option. It doesn't material lies. Now that window

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Speaker 3: on a shorter option has suddenly closed, and now he's

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Speaker 3: got to run around and hope somebody gets open on

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Speaker 3: a scramble drill. We see Josh fall into that trap

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Speaker 3: sometimes when the offense is disjointed and he feels he's

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Speaker 3: got to do more, and he falls into some of

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Speaker 3: the the problems that affect the efficiency of the offense

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Speaker 3: in previous years.

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Speaker 5: I think we saw that last night.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as far as Drake May only having wide open

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Speaker 6: guys to throw too, yeah, some of that was going on.

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Speaker 6: But also, I mean the things that really struck out

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Speaker 6: to me wasn't that. What it was was Drake May

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Speaker 6: scrambling and finding Steph Diggs on the sideline a couple

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Speaker 6: of times that extended drives, and that was also a

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Speaker 6: big play. And the one we keep talking about is

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Speaker 6: this the amazing play when Daikwan Jones was hanging on

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Speaker 6: him and he threw it and he still made the

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Speaker 6: play and Steph made something out of nothing. Those are

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Speaker 6: the kind of plays that crush you. Certainly that the

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Speaker 6: play we're watching right now, the down the throa to

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Speaker 6: Henry that extended that drive. The conversions are always crushers.

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Speaker 6: They were three of nine on third down, which is

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Speaker 6: striking when you see and maybe it was, you know,

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Speaker 6: they still had twenty first downs in the game, so

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Speaker 6: it was they had twenty one first downs, thirteen by passing,

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Speaker 6: five by rushing, and three by penalty. Drake May's a

1018
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Speaker 6: good player, but that play that we just watched through

1019
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Speaker 6: the big play down the sideline with him rolling to

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Speaker 6: his right, and that was you know, so he threw

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Speaker 6: into some tight windows. I don't know that I totally

1022
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Speaker 6: agree with the wide open guys, but they certainly use

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Speaker 6: their guys.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just gonna tell you the Bills secondary

1026
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Speaker 3: and many others in the league can't cover for four

1027
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Speaker 3: and five seconds. Somebody is gonna come open. Because it's

1028
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Speaker 3: too hard to cover the caliber of receivers in this

1029
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Speaker 3: league for four and five seconds. It is unfair to

1030
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Speaker 3: ask your secondary to do that. But when the other

1031
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Speaker 3: team's going max protect and they're going to give Drake

1032
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Speaker 3: May a half an hour to throw the ball, he's

1033
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Speaker 3: going to complete thirteen and fourteen. That's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Glenn in Newfane next. What's up, Glenn?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, First of all, agree with a caller couple calls ago,

1036
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Speaker 19: thank you guys for the therapy session. Sure, I feel

1037
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Speaker 19: like we're like sitting in chairs in a circle, but

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Speaker 19: thank you guys. You know, we get talking. It just

1039
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Speaker 19: feels a little better, you know. But anyway, I had

1040
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Speaker 19: like a one bad thing and one good thing to

1041
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Speaker 19: leave you with. The The bad thing was, I was

1042
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Speaker 19: very disturbed by the tackling last night. It was sloppy.

1043
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Speaker 19: It was just embarrassing to see, you know, it just

1044
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Speaker 19: wasn't there, especially in the secondary. And of course Digs

1045
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Speaker 19: is Digs, so he's going to make people look terrible

1046
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Speaker 19: a lot of times. But that was one thing to tackling.

1047
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Speaker 19: On the good side, I just want to thank that

1048
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Speaker 19: white out the people that were there. Unbelievable. I mean

1049
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Speaker 19: it was for people to you know, be.

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Speaker 17: Up that way.

1051
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Speaker 19: You got school, you got work in the morning. You

1052
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Speaker 19: guys really came to play, and I appreciate it, and

1053
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Speaker 19: I'm sorry we couldn't do better.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's that's true.

1055
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Speaker 6: I mean that was that was a tough environment and

1056
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Speaker 6: the Patriots came in and took out a tough, hard

1057
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Speaker 6: fought win, but they got it in what was supposed

1058
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Speaker 6: to be the most impossible atmosphere in the league. The

1059
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Speaker 6: Bills are undefeated in like fourteen games in that building,

1060
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Speaker 6: and then they add on special uniforms and the fans

1061
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Speaker 6: were on board with a whiteout, and the Patriots still

1062
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Speaker 6: walked out of there with a win. That's That's a

1063
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Speaker 6: heck of an accomplishment. That's why the New England fans

1064
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Speaker 6: today see that is a signature win and maybe one

1065
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Speaker 6: of the It's probably the most important win of Mike

1066
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Speaker 6: vrabel time in New England at this point, no question

1067
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Speaker 6: about it. It's going to be tough to top that

1068
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Speaker 6: for a minute, because you know, nothing is set up

1069
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Speaker 6: like that deliberately, but they did. They came out of

1070
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Speaker 6: there with a win and what was should have been

1071
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Speaker 6: could have been one of the most difficult environments in

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Speaker 6: the league.

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Speaker 7: It's a signature win for them.

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Speaker 3: That's the loudest I've heard the stadium this season. The

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Speaker 3: fans were great last night. They were super loud. I

1076
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Speaker 3: noticed them more. I mean, I have a headset on

1077
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Speaker 3: now I have a crowd MIC, so I can hear

1078
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Speaker 3: the crowd through my headset. But that was easily the

1079
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Speaker 3: loudest and the most I have noticed them through the

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Speaker 3: course of this season. There's other instances. As for your

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Speaker 3: tackling point, I think you're right. We talked about it

1082
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Speaker 3: last week, Steve. Fundamental tackling was a major problem last

1083
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Speaker 3: week against the Saints. You know that they worked on

1084
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Speaker 3: it and tried to fix it. It was still a problem

1085
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Speaker 3: last night, not to the degree it was the previous week,

1086
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Speaker 3: but there were still instances where you're sitting there going

1087
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Speaker 3: you can't arm tackle. And I think it's a byproduct

1088
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Speaker 3: of two things. First thing is I think that people

1089
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Speaker 3: at the second and third level of the defense at

1090
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Speaker 3: times are still late in reading a play that thereby

1091
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Speaker 3: puts them out of position. And when you are out

1092
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Speaker 3: of position, you can't tackle fundamentally because now you're reaching

1093
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Speaker 3: to get to a spot just to get a hand

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Speaker 3: on a guy, and trying to arm tackle players is

1095
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: not good enough in this league. It's just simply not

1096
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: good enough. So if you're late with your read or

1097
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 3: you don't anticipate something to be in position to make

1098
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: a fundamental tackle, you inherently aren't making a fundamental tackle

1099
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 3: no matter what, because you're not there to do it.

1100
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 3: I can't break down, you know, shoot your hands and

1101
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: make a tackle.

1102
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 6: I agree with what Brownie's saying. One of the things

1103
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 6: you see and typically, and particularly last night with Steph

1104
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 6: Diggs and some of the other Patriot receivers guys running

1105
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 6: past the tackle.

1106
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 5: Yep, that's the same thing.

1107
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 7: That's that is a.

1108
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 6: That's a symptom of seeing it late. Like you said,

1109
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 6: you're not there in time. And if you if you're

1110
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 6: late and you're sprinting to it, it's hard to stop,

1111
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 6: slow down, and break down.

1112
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 7: And make a tackle.

1113
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 6: That's why it's easy for Steph Diggs to sidestep a

1114
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 6: defender and run around him and head up the field

1115
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 6: because the guy's going with such velocity trying to cover

1116
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 6: so much ground, they're not close enough to make a tackle.

1117
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 6: If you're going to tackle somebody, you got to make

1118
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 6: sure they're not going to sidestep you, and you know

1119
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 6: you can't run through them because they've got space to

1120
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 6: make you miss. It's like Brownie said that, you're just

1121
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 6: there a little late, and when you're sprinting towards it,

1122
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 6: it's hard to change direction, break down, stop, and hem

1123
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 6: the ball carrier in. And that's what you see so much.

1124
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 6: We saw so many defenders last night just run past

1125
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 6: the tackle because they were late, a little bit late

1126
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 6: getting there. That's how he missed tackles. There was no

1127
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 6: tackle to be missed because the guy just ran around you.

1128
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 6: So it's, uh, that was a problem last night. And

1129
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 6: so yeah, maybe the caller just before who said, you know,

1130
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 6: Scott from Nashville said that, you know, throwing the wide

1131
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 6: open guys. There's a little bit of that in there

1132
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 6: because players are sprinting to get to the ball carrier

1133
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 6: because they're not next to them. You know what I'm saying.

1134
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 6: It's a problem. It's a symptom of like Brownie said,

1135
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 6: maybe seeing it too late. And once you get there,

1136
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 6: you got to break down. You can't let the guy.

1137
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 6: You can't just run past him in the tackle. You

1138
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 6: got to break down, make him avoid you, or make

1139
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 6: him deal with you without just sidestepping and watching you

1140
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 6: run past and keep and run the other direction.

1141
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 5: So Tim and Clarence center, what's up? Tim?

1142
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, thanks Chris, and thanks Steven taking my car. Listen,

1143
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 20: there's two things that I was wondering about, like the

1144
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 20: last drive. Okay, I mean I'm looking at and it

1145
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 20: was unfortunately there's fourth and ten.

1146
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 9: But we're not going for the win.

1147
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 17: I knew, darn.

1148
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 20: Well most kickers in this league can kick over fifty yards.

1149
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 20: I told my wife, I'm sitting there. He says they're

1150
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 20: gonna kick the field goal to win. So we're not

1151
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 20: playing to win. And that's been the trouble with the

1152
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 20: Bills at the end. I think we still should have

1153
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 20: gone for it for fourth and ten, number one, number two.

1154
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 20: This drake made whatever his name is. He kept running

1155
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 20: to the right, okay, and then we had that one

1156
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 20: guy I forgot linebacker. I think he caught him from behind,

1157
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 20: but way or from the other side. Why didn't we

1158
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 20: try to contain him or rush more people from our

1159
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 20: left side? So if we sat help you know those

1160
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 20: because you know something, as bad as those goofy penalties

1161
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 20: and everything, we still should have won that game.

1162
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 17: We had that for the taking.

1163
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 9: That's about the game.

1164
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 5: What's the what's the fourth and ten? You're talking about, tim,

1165
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 5: Just so I know exactly what players.

1166
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 20: Yeah, that last drive, we were fourth to ten, and

1167
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 20: then we kicked the field goal. The guy's a good

1168
00:59:58,640 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 20: field goal kicker.

1169
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 7: Oh, I got you're going to tie it? Yeah.

1170
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 20: I t the game, So I'm just trying to see

1171
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 20: it would why are we going for the tie? You know,

1172
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 20: darn well they're going to be able to pick up

1173
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 20: twenty thirty forty yards and go for.

1174
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 11: The field goal.

1175
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 20: And they did, and they won the game, and yeah,

1176
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 20: say they stole.

1177
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 21: The game from us.

1178
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see what you. I get what you're saying.

1179
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: You want to be aggressive there, Tim, I mean not

1180
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: for nothing. I mean on the previous drive the Bills

1181
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 3: got off the field on third down. I mean, Shaq

1182
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: Thompson sacks Drake May on a rollout to the right.

1183
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: To address your other point, he sacks them right on

1184
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: the sideline for a two yard loss on third and five,

1185
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 3: and they're off the field. So maybe Sean McDermott field,

1186
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: they can get one more.

1187
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 5: Stop, Yeah, get the ball back.

1188
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 6: Fourth and ten is a different animal than fourth and two,

1189
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 6: And I think you have to even fourth and three right.

1190
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 6: And on that last drive where they did end up

1191
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 6: settling for a field goal, I'm not sure exactly how

1192
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 6: long the drive was, but I think you have to

1193
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 6: go in earlier in the drive and say, listen, we

1194
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 6: got to keep moving the chain, so let's not go incomplete, incomplete,

1195
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 6: incomplete on our first three downs, Let's get Sprinkler run

1196
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 6: in there, Let's get the ball down. Make sure that

1197
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 6: when it comes to fourth down, it's not fourth and ten,

1198
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 6: it's fourth and two. So then you do think about

1199
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 6: going for it, but you have to set yourself up

1200
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 6: for that by not trying to well, you know, And

1201
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 6: that's the first down, every single play, And that's.

1202
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: The execution problem because it's first in ten at through

1203
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: New England twenty seven. They try to throw a screen

1204
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 3: to Shakir, he drops the ball, it's a drop pass.

1205
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: Now it's second and ten. He goes deep to Coleman.

1206
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 3: That's the throw out of the back of the end

1207
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 3: zone on a play that you know, he leaves the pocket.

1208
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: Now it's third and ten, Shakir, that's the non call

1209
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: on pass interference, and now you're at fourth and tent.

1210
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 3: So it's a combination of not getting tight officiating when

1211
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 3: it's been tight a fifating the whole game, and poor execution. Yeah,

1212
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 3: and that's what leaves you in fourth and ten. And

1213
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 3: that was the disjointed nature of the offense the whole night.

1214
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 3: That series was a microcosm of the evening on offense.

1215
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you're down, Yeah, it's not good if you're

1216
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 6: gonna if you're in that mode of going forward and

1217
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 6: playing to win, you have to set yourself up for

1218
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 6: the ability not to get off the field by going incomplete, incomplete, incomplete.

1219
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I think McDermott there is saying, let's kick

1220
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 3: the field goal and extend the game because my offense

1221
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 3: is not getting it done for me. Let me hope

1222
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 3: my defense can get a stop, since they just got

1223
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: one on the last series.

1224
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 5: So that's what you GE's what he's hoping for there.

1225
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 6: Presumably you get the Allen short pass to Keon Coleman

1226
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 6: for thirteen yards. It gets you to first and ten

1227
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 6: on the New England forty. Then shotgun off left tackle

1228
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 6: for one yard to James Cook, and that's where you

1229
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 6: know the running game, you know wasn't good enough. Shotgun

1230
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 6: short middle to Khalil Shakir for twenty five for twelve yards.

1231
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 6: That gets you down down to the twenty seven. It's

1232
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 6: now it's and then that again when here we go,

1233
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 6: it's incomplete, short, incomplete, short, incomplete short.

1234
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 7: If you're gonna do that, you gotta find a way.

1235
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 6: You got no yards, You've got three way to grind

1236
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 6: out a couple of plays that give you three yards here,

1237
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 6: three yards there. Then at least it's fourth and four.

1238
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 6: You can't go for it on fourth and ten. You

1239
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 6: gotta go forward and then put it back on your defense.

1240
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 6: That's you know, those guys got to pick you up.

1241
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 5: To Mike and Pennsylvania. What's up, Mike?

1242
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 17: Hey, guys.

1243
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 22: Obviously not the results we wanted.

1244
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 8: Watching the game, I thought.

1245
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 22: It was a great game, well well fought, hard game.

1246
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 22: I know it was gonna be that division game and

1247
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 22: the Patriots are up and up. I'm gonna give you

1248
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 22: guys a.

1249
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 8: Good, a bad, and a.

1250
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 22: Just weird which I noticed watching the game. But the

1251
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 22: good was the offense finally is getting Kincaid involved. So

1252
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 22: that's a good sign for the offense. You know, to

1253
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 22: factor him in and you know him to see one

1254
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 22: hundred yards for the first time and I think in

1255
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 22: his career, So that's good. That shows a sign of life.

1256
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 22: I saw some backup running backs. The bad I'm gonna

1257
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 22: give you is the receivers still have no speed. They

1258
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 22: can't separk down the field. If Josh is not running

1259
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 22: around scrambling, they're not getting open.

1260
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 17: It's just I see it time and time again.

1261
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 22: And then the weird is, did you guys notice that

1262
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 22: Stefan Diggs was overly sweating at the beginning of this

1263
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 22: game and his jaw was twitching.

1264
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 17: It just appeared that he was on some type of something.

1265
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 17: But that was that was my take on the game.

1266
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll disagree with you, Mike on your second point,

1267
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: only because I haven't watched the whole game, but I've

1268
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 3: watched some of the all twenty two. There are receivers

1269
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: running open and Josh is leaving the pocket prematurely at times.

1270
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: Not the whole game, but we covered this in the

1271
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: first hour. When the offense is just jointed, not putting

1272
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: points on the board, turn the ball over, Josh will

1273
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 3: press at times, he will speed up his internal clock.

1274
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: He will leave the pocket early thinking he's extending the play,

1275
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 3: where if he just lives within the structure of the

1276
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: play for an extra half second.

1277
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 5: There's often an open receiver.

1278
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 3: There's one in particular late in the game where Samuel's

1279
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 3: running a deep corner route and he is wide open,

1280
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: but Josh has already left the pocket and he's rolling

1281
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: away from where Samuel is running.

1282
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 7: Pocket was pretty clean too, and there's.

1283
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 3: An underneath receiver available to in Shakir, and he doesn't

1284
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: throw it to Shakir, who's open. Now leaves the pocket prematurely,

1285
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 3: right as Samuel's coming open on a corner route to

1286
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 3: the far left side for a touchdown, and Josh doesn't

1287
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 3: see him because he's too busy leaving the pocket early.

1288
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 6: It's unusual too, because Josh is by the analytics and

1289
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 6: by the naked eye when the chips are down. He's

1290
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 6: the best guy. Yeah, he's the best guy in the league.

1291
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: And I'm not I saying that to indicate it's a

1292
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: Josh problem. Yeah, there are times when they're covered up

1293
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 3: and they can't get open.

1294
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 5: But it's a mix.

1295
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 6: I think New England does a nice job of muddy

1296
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 6: in the waters for Josh not being exactly sure what

1297
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 6: he's looking at. And when you start thinking, like when

1298
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 6: you start getting to the point where you're uncertain, that's when

1299
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 6: you think it's gonna take me a minute to figure

1300
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 6: this out.

1301
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 7: I am got a minute. I'm getting out of here.

1302
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 6: I think the Patriots did a better job of disguising

1303
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 6: their coverages and doing some stuff that like they got

1304
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 6: Josh a couple of times where they blitzed from the

1305
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 6: side he thought opposite, and so it the protection was wrong.

1306
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 7: So I think that a little bit of that was

1307
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Speaker 7: going on.

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Speaker 6: I think that permeated itself throughout Josh's game and maybe

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01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 6: made him do some things he doesn't normally do, which,

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Speaker 6: you know, good on the Patriots for being able to

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Speaker 6: do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then as for Kincaid's production, it's been good. He's

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Speaker 3: got three touchdowns on the season, that's already a single

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Speaker 3: season career high for him.

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Speaker 5: And he had a single game.

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Speaker 3: Career high one hundred at eight yards last night on

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Speaker 3: six catches. So it is good to see him being

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Speaker 3: incorporated into the offense in the way that he is.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to Mike in Syracuse. What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 9: Hi?

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Speaker 23: See Hi. Chris honored be on the show and first

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01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 23: time caller. I had like three points I just wanted

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Speaker 23: to bring up really quick.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 23: First, do you think we have the ability to have

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01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 23: a receiver that can stretch the field. I feel like

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01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 23: we didn't really try to stretch the field. I know

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01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 23: they're low percentage throws, but I felt like we kept

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01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 23: the Patriots defense in pretty close covering us because they

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01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 23: just weren't afraid of a deep ball. Secondly, I felt

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Speaker 23: like the Patriots obviously exploited us because Diggs was playing

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 23: really well. I also felt as though that Kincaid was

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01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 23: playing really, really well and he only had six receptions.

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Speaker 23: Do you think we could have targeted him more because

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01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 23: he was beating their coverage and getting open. And Lastly,

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Speaker 23: I just I was at the game. I'm actually traveling

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01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 23: back stuck on the through ay right now. The last

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 23: play call of the game. I know we only had

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01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 23: fifteen seconds. It was going to need a miracle for

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01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 23: us to have a chance to get a touchdown. I

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01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 23: was expecting and obviously an outside route to spend out

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01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 23: of bounds to take it and then have Josh you know,

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01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 23: chuck the ball seventy yards because he has the arm

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 23: to do it. Why didn't they take that chance? And

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01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 23: it was just seemed like an odd play at the

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01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 23: end of the game with no climax for us to

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 23: give us a chance to win. I can hang up

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01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 23: and listen and thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 7: Grounds I can agree with that last part. You know

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 7: you should.

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01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 6: You've got to have a play in your bag that

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 6: gives you a chance and from where they were, I

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01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 6: would have probably done the last jitch rugby thing where

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01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 6: they pitch it back and you know, kind of this

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01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 6: Cal Stanford game from years ago. That's I was expecting

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01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 6: something like that. But you know, with or thirteen seconds

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 6: I think it was when they got them snap the ball.

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01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 6: You're right, it's a last ditch effort. If you don't

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01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 6: like to play call it. They've got other plays in

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01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 6: their bag. That yeah, I mean they should have done

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 6: something different. I can get on board with that. I

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 6: don't know that you can compare using their use of

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01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 6: Steph Diggs with our use of Kincaid. But they did

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01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 6: have Digs and he was working and they kept going

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 6: to him. You got to have an answer for that.

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01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 6: As far as wide receiver stretching the field, teams are

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01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 6: playing the Bills a little bit like they play the Chiefs.

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01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 6: They keep a lid on, They keep two guys deep

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 6: a lot teams can keep a lid on. That's what

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01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 6: the Bills do to Miami with Tyre when they had Tyreek,

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01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 6: and it's so frustrating for Tyree. If you hear some

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01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 6: of the comments that Tyreek has about when the Bills

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01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 6: play the Miami Dolphins, he's bummed because he can't get

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01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 6: past anybody. That's what teams do to the Bills because

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01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 6: they know Josh can make those throws. It's they're threatened

1377
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 6: in the deep part of the field because the Bills

1378
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 6: quarterback will put the ball out there. So teams have

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 6: an answer for that. They forced the Bills to play

1380
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 6: the long game, take the dink and dunk. That's why

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01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 6: Josh gets frustrated taking the easy early completions in the

1382
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 6: down a half a second after the ball snap, Josh

1383
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 6: could unload it and get the completion and do it.

1384
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 7: He gets tired of doing it, or.

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 6: He doesn't want to do it, or the players and

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01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 6: design to it is whatever limitation there is, they don't

1387
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 6: do it all the time. The more they don't do it,

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 6: the more problems they have for not taking it.

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01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: As for your point, on the end of the game,

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01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 3: they had only eight seconds because Curtis Samuel ran it

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01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 3: back for seven. So it's first and ten at the

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01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 3: eighteen with eight seconds. I'm with you, Mike, you want

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01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 3: to run a fifteen yard out on the sideline, Sign

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01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: me up. That gets you to the thirty three, and

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 3: then asked Josh to chuck it to the end zone

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01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 3: for one shot. I would have rather done that watching

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01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 3: the watching the All twenty two back, they hit Palmer

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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 3: on an en route and Shakir was coming underneath. It

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01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 3: was my belief that was supposed to be a hook

1400
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 3: and ladder. The problem was Palmer was surrounded by three defenders.

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01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 3: I don't even know if the pitch would have been

1402
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 3: there to be made because there was a defender underneath him.

1403
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: And then the second part that was the problem. Josh

1404
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 3: threw a low ball. Palmer had to go down just

1405
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: to catch it, and now he's on the ground and

1406
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 3: can't lateral it. He would have been better off dropping it,

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01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 3: quite frankly, just letting it go incomplete, because it was

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01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 3: an inaccurate throw. So it was done from the word

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01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 3: go on an inaccurate throw and three defenders being around him.

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01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 3: I was in favor of a sideline throw. Hope you

1411
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 3: get fifteen yards out of bounds with two seconds and

1412
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 3: then have Josh chuck it from the thirty three yard line.

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01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 3: That would have been better. I agree with you. Mike,

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01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 3: gotta take a break here. More of your phone calls

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01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 3: when we come back here. On one Bill's Live on

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01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: a Buffalo victory Monday.

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01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 5: Stay with us.

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01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: Back to pass fires, back to the.

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01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 4: End zone, complete to Keon Coleman, Agent zero with a

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Speaker 4: two yard touchdown reception.

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Speaker 3: That's your big Energy play of the week, presented by

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Speaker 3: National Grid. National Grid is a proud partner of the

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. Welcome back to a Buffalo Football Monday edition

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Speaker 3: of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 3: and still taking your phone calls at eight O threeho

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01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 3: five fifty one, eight five point fifty two five fifty

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: the number to get on board, and we're gonna jump

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01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: right back on the phone lines where people have been

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 3: waiting patiently.

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Speaker 5: And next up is Ron on a cell. What's up, Ron?

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01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 24: Hey, what's up? I'm going to blame it on the uniform.

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01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,879
Speaker 5: Bad mojo, bad mojo.

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, a bummer too, right they picked if Yeah,

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01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 6: because now who's gonna want to wear those jerseys again?

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01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 5: Right now? It was a one time only for this year.

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01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then the white out too. I mean, he

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 7: can't even go back to that now.

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01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 17: It's like, eh, exactly, well.

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01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 7: Had stinks. Oh well, but yeah, I get you. I

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01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 7: heard that last night too.

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01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 6: But I'll say this that the You gotta be very

1442
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 6: proud of the fan base, the franchise, everything that because

1443
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,959
Speaker 6: the uniforms look great. And I'm telling you that white out.

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01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 7: Was it popped?

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01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 6: I mean there was no way you could miss it.

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01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 6: There wasn't like letters. Some of the people were wearing white,

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01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 6: some of them are not. No, everybody had. Everybody had

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01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 6: that on.

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01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 7: It was great.

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01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 24: Look at it this way. Josh's got to look at

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01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 24: that field. He's seeing all his players in white, then

1452
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 24: he's seeing the fans in white. You know, bad mojo?

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 7: Maybe all right?

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 5: Title to your opinion. So I guess if you feel

1455
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 5: it was bad mojo, fair enough.

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01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 7: If you feel it it probably was.

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01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 5: Let's go to Dave in Lakawana, Nex. What's up Dave?

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01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: Hey?

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01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 9: How you doing, guys?

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01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 7: Good?

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 9: Two things, Steve, I hope you making into the Hall

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 9: of Fame before I croak.

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 7: Okay, I hope been doing before I croak? Are you

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01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 7: kidding me?

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01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 9: Number number two? If you guys remember in the past

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01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 9: twenty years, what did Billy Bullachick always do against one

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01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 9: of our teams. They would always take the best player

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01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 9: out of the game. And why didn't Babbage do it?

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01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 9: I'll sit back and listen, guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you're you're asking why Babbage didn't take

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 3: Digs out of the game.

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Speaker 5: I think they tried to do a lot of things.

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01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 3: Number One, stop the run, because that had been a

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01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 3: persistent problem each of the last couple of weeks. They

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01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 3: did that they knew utralized New England's run game, and

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 3: when Antonio Gibson went out of the game with the

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01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 3: knee injury on the kick return, I think they were

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01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 3: even more effective in doing that. The problem they had

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01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 3: was getting a consistent pass rush on Drake May. As

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 3: we've outlined already, they used a split backfield in the

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01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 3: second half. They double team the defensive ends with the

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01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 3: offensive tackles, and there was no interior rush because Ed

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01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 3: Oliver's not playing. Neither was TJ Sanders, who's an interior

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: rusher as well, And so that worked for them.

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01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 5: And with max protection.

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01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 3: Drake May had all day to throw, and Diggs was

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01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 3: the number one target obviously, and if Drake May has

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01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: five seconds to throw, Stefan Diggs, mac Hollins and Kay

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 3: Shawn Boody and anybody else, Hunter Henry, they were all open.

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01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,799
Speaker 3: Because it's very hard for any secondary to cover players

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01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 3: that long.

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01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got to have an answer for that.

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 6: And sometimes the answer has to be your good players

1494
01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 6: got to play well, your double.

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01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 7: Team in both ends.

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 6: You need somebody on the interior, you need or as

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01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 6: we saw sometimes and at work once in a while,

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01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 6: where they'd send extra people.

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Speaker 7: You just had to.

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Speaker 6: They had to get home, and an athlete like Drake

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01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 6: May it's just too hard to get on the ground. So,

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01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 6: and I'm sure this too, Babbage and the defensive staff

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01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 6: was probably thinking, this is about as good as we've

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01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 6: played all year.

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01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 3: Right, Zack Drake May fourth high, right, like I mean,

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01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 3: not like they weren't around him.

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01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they're probably thinking, you know, we're actually this

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 6: is a game where we're playing better than we have

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01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 6: in the in season in weeks past, or at least

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01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 6: having more success.

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01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 7: That they're right at where they were.

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Speaker 6: They twenty one points against the Dolphins, nineteen against the Saints,

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 6: and they were, you know, twenty up to that point

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Speaker 6: against the Patriots. So you got to think they're, you know,

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01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 6: we're right on schedule here for not having ed Oliver

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 6: three of nine on third down, all of that stuff, for.

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Speaker 3: Not having Ed Oliver and TJ. Sanders, who are arguably

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01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 3: your two best interior pass rushers. You know, typically they

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: had four sacks, eight quarterback hits, and six tackles for loss.

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Speaker 3: That's a pretty good night for a shorthanded defensive front.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's so that's what you're looking at.

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Speaker 6: Like Brownie said, I'm it's hard to look at the

1523
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 6: defense and saying, yeah, it's hard to look at the

1524
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 6: defense say that's they're not getting it done. I thought,

1525
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 6: particularly under manned without at Oliver Milano's out again, you

1526
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 6: don't have Dorian Williams, Dorian Williams, Dorian Strong even who's

1527
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 6: been platooning. It's hard to it's hard to throw this

1528
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 6: at the defense say you guys got to play better.

1529
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 6: You know, you'd always like to see him play better.

1530
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 6: But you know, this is one where the offense, for

1531
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 6: the first time this year, scored ten points more than

1532
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 6: ten points fewer than it usually does. When you turn

1533
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 6: it over three times, that's what happens. It takes points

1534
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 6: off the board, particularly when you throw a red zone

1535
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 6: interception and then you drop the ball coming out of

1536
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 6: your own ends. That's rough offensively. So I'm you know,

1537
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 6: that's this team you can say, we all tend to

1538
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 6: do this, and you look at the offense, see how

1539
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 6: can they win a championship? You look at the defense

1540
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 6: and can they win a championship? And that's not the

1541
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 6: way to do it. It's the whole package. Is your

1542
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 6: team good enough to win a championship? This team, I've

1543
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 6: said it for a long time. I think yeah they are.

1544
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 6: If the offense plays its best, even if the defense

1545
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 6: isn't as good as the offensive output, if it plays

1546
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 6: its best, you're gonna win all your games. The defense

1547
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 6: played it's it's game yesterday. The offense wasn't the same.

1548
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 6: They turned it over three times. They struggled to run

1549
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 6: the football as well as they have, although they did

1550
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 6: have one hundred and eighteen yards rushing, but fifty nine

1551
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 6: of it was Josh, So they didn't run the ball

1552
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 6: like they normally do. They did not in New England,

1553
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 6: did not let them play the offensive game they usually play.

1554
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 6: When both sides of the ball don't add up. This

1555
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 6: team won't win, you know, and almost won in spite

1556
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 6: of it. That's how good they are. But they didn't.

1557
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 5: Let's go to Ryan in Toronto and X what's up Ryan?

1558
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 25: Cause Steve Happy happy Monday, guys. Disappointing loss, we asked me,

1559
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,759
Speaker 25: I called Last's say. I told you guys, the biggest

1560
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 25: concern is step Digs and these numbers with dog uh

1561
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 25: uh Drake May. And secondly, I also talked about the tackling.

1562
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 25: I wonder what what the I come from the numbers,

1563
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 25: to be honest, but what was it? I don't know

1564
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 25: if you know what Chris Steve the yachts have to

1565
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 25: catch for step upon Diggs. So I know Drake May

1566
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 25: did not have any deep balls for him, but I

1567
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 25: don't know how this guy got na portative yard, to

1568
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 25: be honest. Secondly, Hockley situation, because you I know you

1569
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 25: guys talking about the refraining stuff. It's not a mistake, man.

1570
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 25: There's no reason why Bill should be having eleven back

1571
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 25: to back penalties in a game. I get it. Maybe

1572
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 25: I don't know what it is, but that needs to

1573
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 25: be resolved. Tackling needs to be resolved. And I also

1574
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 25: talked about a feast. Right now, the Pages are one

1575
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 25: game behind and they play those Saints next week, and

1576
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 25: Bill's got a two and two Atlanta coming up on

1577
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 25: Monday night, and if that goes side raised, guess what

1578
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 25: you're looking up ANFC East pages on top. Time to

1579
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 25: take my call. I want to hear you talk.

1580
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure thing right, thanks for the call, right, I mean,

1581
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 6: that was as a tough to lose a division game.

1582
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 6: You know, the division games are always difficult. We know

1583
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 6: how close they are because the teams are so familiar

1584
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 6: with each other where they're you know, you just used

1585
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 6: to looking across the field and seeing those guys, so

1586
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 6: you can't fool them very much. You've seen them play

1587
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,480
Speaker 6: against your people. You know where they're better than you

1588
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 6: personnel wise and where you're not as good as them

1589
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 6: personnel wise. So you know those games are close. But

1590
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 6: it's a tough game to lose, particularly at this point

1591
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 6: because everything is so close and it is so tight

1592
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 6: here early in the season, and now instead of having

1593
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 6: a you know, multi mom game lead in the division race,

1594
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 6: you're down to one game lead in the division race.

1595
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 6: It's a little disconcerting, but that's the NFL. I mean,

1596
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 6: you got to learn to be okay in that space.

1597
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 6: It's I know the Bills have done it. You're not

1598
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 6: gonna wrap this division race up by week eleven, not

1599
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 6: let alone week five or six. It's it's gonna be

1600
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 6: week eleven, a week thirteen, week sixteen, that you're gonna

1601
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,480
Speaker 6: wrap the division up. That's just the way it is. Mathematically,

1602
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 6: it just doesn't happen.

1603
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs had sixty two yards after the catch, so

1604
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 3: almost half of his one hundred and forty plus yards

1605
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 3: came after the catch.

1606
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 6: I'll say this to the third most in the league,

1607
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 6: I'll give I'll give Brownie some credit too.

1608
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 7: He's right.

1609
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 6: I think, certainly. Steph Diggs is one of the great

1610
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 6: separators in the league. We've seen it before, particularly when

1611
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 6: your quarterback like Diggs did when Josh Allen was his

1612
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 6: quarterback late in the down. He has the ability to

1613
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 6: find space these catches that we're looking at. We're watching

1614
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 6: him now on on the airfficult. It's a it's a

1615
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 6: tough catch to make, but we've seen Digs do that

1616
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 6: with Josh. That exact thing with Josh and Diggs. His

1617
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 6: ability to get separation and then have the defenders run

1618
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 6: past him in coverage and mistackles is really frustrating. But

1619
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 6: that's what the guy does. He's really good at it.

1620
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,480
Speaker 6: He was highly motivated last night. The Patriots were absolutely

1621
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 6: spot on to use him the way they did and

1622
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 6: lean on him. They did it on the very first

1623
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 6: play from scrimmage. He caught it and gained positive yards

1624
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 6: and in their game plan it's We even had people

1625
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 6: saying that you could tell how Diggs was engaged from

1626
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 6: start to finish in this game, because you know, maybe

1627
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 6: the Patriots are finding it out. That's the way he

1628
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 6: was here too. When things are going STEP's way, when

1629
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,919
Speaker 6: he's contrybut when he's catching the ball, when he's being targeted,

1630
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 6: the guy gets better as the game goes on, and

1631
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 6: certainly that was the case last night.

1632
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 5: Let's move along and we go to Joe and Niagara Falls.

1633
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 5: What's up Joe.

1634
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 26: Hey, First and foremost, I just want to say, uh,

1635
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 26: Bills out played themselves last night. I don't find anything

1636
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 26: about New England's offense to be impressive whatsoever. I think

1637
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 26: that most of the players just came down to Drake

1638
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 26: May scrambled around like lunatic and forcing the ball to

1639
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 26: step von Diggs. I think Dig's place with a chip

1640
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 26: on his shoulder. I think going forward in the season,

1641
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 26: you're not going to see the same results from Diggs's

1642
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 26: numbers are going to drop way lower. Second New England's

1643
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 26: defense took wing our whole tight end at tack. If

1644
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 26: you've noticed every single game where we've had high powering

1645
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 26: offense this year, it's all revolved around Josh and Knox

1646
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 26: and Kkad and Hawes, and that starts the most that

1647
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 26: it starts the game. He's beat the ball to Coleman

1648
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 26: eventually or secure any other time those little screen passes.

1649
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 26: But really they took way the whole tot end thing.

1650
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 26: Josh had to run around a lot more than we've

1651
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 26: seen him run around in the last few weeks. Big

1652
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 26: praise to our defense. Whoever's blaming our defense, I mean

1653
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 26: they held them to twenty three points. The Bills have

1654
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 26: been scoring over thirty points the last few games or

1655
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 26: even last year, so to only put up twenty against

1656
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 26: the arrival A all of them they had twenty three,

1657
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 26: I mean Shag Thompson, twelve, Nard Bruss So they were

1658
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 26: all over the field last night and we just couldn't

1659
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 26: get it done.

1660
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Joe, Yeah, thanks Joe.

1661
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 5: I don't know if I agree with your tight end point.

1662
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 3: Maybe if you're arguing the effectiveness of thirteen personnel, I'll

1663
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 3: listen to that.

1664
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 5: Because Kincaid had a huge game.

1665
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 3: He's the leading receiver for the Bills, so I don't

1666
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 3: think they completely shut down your tight end game. He

1667
01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 3: feasted at the second level almost the entire night, So

1668
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe we're splitting hairs there, but yeah,

1669
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 3: they beat themselves. They did a good It's like we

1670
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 3: say all the time. Steve says this all the time.

1671
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 3: The Bills are hard to beat at home, and they

1672
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 3: often have to help you if you are going to

1673
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 3: beat them. And the Bills help the Patriots three turnovers,

1674
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 3: being the biggest helper in the whole thing, and then

1675
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: putting themselves behind the sticks offensively with penalties. Those are

1676
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 3: the two biggest things that stick out to me.

1677
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:29,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, the Bills didn't play their best offensively,

1678
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,759
Speaker 6: and they helped the Patriots get a chance to score

1679
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 6: some points with turnovers. And that was the And that's

1680
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 6: the three points you're talking about. It's that, you know,

1681
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 6: when you bust it down to its bear essentials, that's

1682
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 6: what it was about.

1683
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta take a break here. We'll keep going with

1684
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 3: your phone calls as long as you keep calling Aito

1685
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 3: three zero five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

1686
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 3: two five fifty here on a Buffalo Football Monday, presented

1687
01:25:53,280 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 3: by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back

1688
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 3: here on a Buffalo Victory Monday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1689
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 3: with you here on one Bill is Live, still taking

1690
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 3: your phone calls for your biggest takeaways from last night's

1691
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 3: lost to the Patriots. Eight three five point fifty one

1692
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 3: eight eight five fifty two, five point fifty And we

1693
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 3: go to Bob out in Derby.

1694
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 5: What's up, Bob?

1695
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 21: Hi, guys, thank you for this therapy session. You know

1696
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 21: you could charge for this and make.

1697
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 27: A bubb Yeah.

1698
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 21: Two questions, Why isn't James Cook part of the passing game?

1699
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 21: The guys in the NBC booth were wondering that aloud

1700
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 21: and they didn't have an answer. And secondly, in a

1701
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 21: couple of words, why was the game so sloppy? Was

1702
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 21: our team psyched out with all the hype about the

1703
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 21: uniforms and the crowd and the Patriots didn't seem like

1704
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 21: they were psyched at all? How do you explain the sloppiness?

1705
01:26:54,520 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's been a lack of urgency the

1706
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. I don't know what that is.

1707
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 3: I think they're prepared properly. But I think sometimes they

1708
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 3: don't recognize how badly teams want to come in here

1709
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 3: and beat them because it represents a signature win for

1710
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 3: them for what the Bills have been for the last

1711
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 3: five years, which has been one of the best teams

1712
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 3: in the AFC. So if they can come in here

1713
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 3: and beat the Bills in their building, it says something

1714
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 3: about them. And I think the Bills sometimes lose sight

1715
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 3: of that and don't realize those teams are coming in

1716
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 3: looking to upset you, and if you don't come with

1717
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:47,879
Speaker 3: the requisite sense of urgency and preparedness and alertness, you're gonna.

1718
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 5: Get beat in your own building. And it finally happened.

1719
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 6: There's no question it might have been that the excitement

1720
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 6: and the hype and the fact that they're four to

1721
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 6: oh at the point, at the point where the game started,

1722
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,560
Speaker 6: all of that stuff makes them come out and be

1723
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 6: a little nervous, maybe a little too tight or maybe

1724
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,560
Speaker 6: too loose, or maybe just casual, whatever you want to

1725
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 6: pick it. Whatever the reason is, their minds, their their

1726
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 6: head wasn't in the right spot as a group, And

1727
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 6: you can put that on Sean McDermott if you want

1728
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 6: I kind of doubt that that's the reason, because he's

1729
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 6: pretty consistent. I mean, he treats every they try and

1730
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 6: treat every game with it to do importance. Uh So

1731
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 6: I think it's you can put I put this on

1732
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 6: an old player. I put it on the players. So

1733
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 6: if they came out there and their mindset wasn't exactly

1734
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 6: where it should have been, that's on. Then they gotta

1735
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 6: they gotta do it. If even my coach, Greg marv Levy,

1736
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 6: you say, listen, if I'm the guy here who has

1737
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 6: to motivate you players to play, I got the wrong players.

1738
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 7: And he's right.

1739
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 6: The players at the NFL level are self motivated. You

1740
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 6: don't have to give them a raw RAS speech before

1741
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 6: the game. You don't have to go out there and say,

1742
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 6: you know, this is the most important game of your life,

1743
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 6: the whole thing.

1744
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 7: None of that goes on.

1745
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 6: These players want to play because it's what they do,

1746
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 6: because they love the game, because they want to play hard,

1747
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 6: they want to win, they want to compete. It's what

1748
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 6: they do. So it's up to them at this level

1749
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 6: of play for players to put themselves into the mindset

1750
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 6: of being ready. And you can chalk it up to

1751
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 6: the environment, you know, with the season that they put

1752
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 6: together and the expectation of how well they're playing up

1753
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 6: to this point. As to saying, you know, I can

1754
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 6: take my foot off the gas here a little bit

1755
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 6: this week as just showing up a little bit sloppy, maybe,

1756
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 6: but it's them. I don't know if there's any of

1757
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 6: that going on. Maybe a little bit of that and

1758
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 6: a little bit of a certain officiating crew that was

1759
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 6: on the field that they call it a certain way

1760
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 6: and everybody knows it and you got to adjust to that.

1761
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 6: All of that goes into the mix. But it turned

1762
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:56,480
Speaker 6: into eight first half penalties, a herky jerky offensive performance

1763
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 6: where for every good play you had, you had two

1764
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 6: PA penalties that took you out of that good play.

1765
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 6: It's a problem, you can say, yeah, the penalties were

1766
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 6: a problem. I don't know that the Bills were one

1767
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 6: hundred percent responsible for how that game was called early on,

1768
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 6: but they're one hundred percent responsible for not adjusting to it.

1769
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now you're gonna go play your first road

1770
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 3: game in a month, right where you're gonna have to

1771
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 3: deal with a whole bunch of other things that could

1772
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,799
Speaker 3: compromise your effectiveness namely crowd.

1773
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 7: Noise and a really physically talented offense.

1774
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 3: Well, and let's not forget two rookie pass rushers who

1775
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 3: are wreaking havoc down there in Atlanta, because I'm just

1776
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 3: gonna tell you James Pierce and Jalen Walker. They're both

1777
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 3: first round picks and they're the real deal. So in

1778
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 3: a road atmosphere, you better be ready for those two kids.

1779
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 6: So this, yeah, the Bills are still a really good

1780
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 6: football team. As somebody tweeted at us, you know the

1781
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 6: teams that the Bills have played and be you know,

1782
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 6: they're three and seventeen, right, right, so they haven't played

1783
01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 6: anybody who's actually Buffalo. You know, you can't change your

1784
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 6: schedule because it's too easy, right, But you know you

1785
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 6: can spin in any way you want. The truth of

1786
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 6: matter is the Bills are really hard to beat. The

1787
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 6: Patriots got it done last night with you know, some

1788
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 6: help from the Bills and all the things that went

1789
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 6: into that game. The Bills are still a really, really

1790
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 6: good football team and they're gonna win a lot of games.

1791
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 3: As for James Cook's target share, he is currently fifth

1792
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 3: on the team and targets behind Khalil Shakir, Keon, Coleman,

1793
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid, and Joshua Palmer. He's fifth with fourteen targets

1794
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 3: on the year. Could he be more incorporated into the

1795
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 3: passing game. I think he could and be a pretty

1796
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 3: effective mismatch because there's no linebacker in the league that's

1797
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 3: covering that joker. So you want to incorporate them more

1798
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 3: into the passing game. I'll listen to it. Last year

1799
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 3: we saw Ty Johnson and Ray Davis more a part

1800
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,759
Speaker 3: of the passing game too. Let's not forget the running

1801
01:31:55,800 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 3: backs had eight receiving touchdowns last season. Right now on

1802
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 3: the year, they have none, So something has shifted there

1803
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 3: for whatever reason. I think Cook, Davison and Johnson as

1804
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 3: a group could be more involved in the passing game.

1805
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 3: It hasn't happened for whatever reason. We'll see if that changes.

1806
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 6: Keon in this last in this game last night, he

1807
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 6: had six targets. I'm sorry, h seven targets, and don't

1808
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 6: forget a couple of those targets were like zero percent

1809
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 6: chance of completion targets. Those back shoulder fades were you know,

1810
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 6: Josh threw it out there and Keon didn't have his

1811
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 6: He didn't know what was coming head didn't have his

1812
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 6: head around fast enough, and they did it like in

1813
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 6: consecutive plays.

1814
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1815
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 6: I don't know that that's on Keon's more than it

1816
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 6: is Josh choosing to go there. Now they're gonna have

1817
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 6: You have to have a lot of conver station. And

1818
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 6: they came back and hit one later in the game.

1819
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 6: But man, oh man, one out of three is just

1820
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 6: not good enough. So you gotta have be on the

1821
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 6: same page. When Josh is gonna throw it. He's got

1822
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 6: to give key On some sort of communication about listen,

1823
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 6: be ready for this. Here it comes, you gotta go

1824
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 6: because if you're going out there as a wide receiver

1825
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 6: gonna you know it's gonna be a fifty to fifty ball.

1826
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 6: You need to know it beforehand. You can't just go

1827
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 6: out there and say, oh my gosh, here it comes.

1828
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 6: If to win it, you gotta expect it. Keon wasn't

1829
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 6: expecting a couple of those targets from Josh on those

1830
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 6: back shoulder throws. And you say what you want about

1831
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 6: why that is, but he was not. He's not ready.

1832
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 6: He wasn't ready for it.

1833
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here when we come back. Our

1834
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 3: number three begins with our good friend of my broadcast partner,

1835
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 3: Eric Wood, who gives us his take on the last

1836
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 3: night's loss to the Patriots. Next here on One Bill's

1837
01:33:54,479 --> 01:34:30,160
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1838
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kaleida Health.

1839
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 5: Welcome back to a Buffalo football Monday.

1840
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on One Bills Live,

1841
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 3: and please to welcome in my broadcast partner on the

1842
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 3: Bills Radio Network. It's former Center Eric Wood, also host

1843
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,960
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01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:56,400
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1849
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 3: Obviously not the result that anyone wanted last night, as

1850
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 3: the fourteen game regular season home winning streak comes to

1851
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 3: an end. But as we say all the time, to

1852
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 3: beat the Bills at home, they've got to help you

1853
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 3: and the Bills were all too generous in helping the

1854
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 3: Patriots last night.

1855
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 11: They were here. We talked on the pre game.

1856
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 28: You know, one of my keys to the game was,

1857
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 28: you know, don't let special teams become a factor. You

1858
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 28: got Marcus Jones, this explosive returner, we have a new

1859
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 28: punter and Wishnowski where you know, could punting or holding

1860
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 28: become an issue? And I thought for the most part,

1861
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 28: the special teams played excellent last night. You know, we

1862
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 28: don't necessarily make any explosive plays. But when you look

1863
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 28: at special teams for the Bills this year, if they

1864
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 28: play every game was called a wash, that's that's gonna

1865
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 28: be a winning formula for them. You know, turnover became

1866
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 28: the issue last night for the Bills, and penalties turnovers.

1867
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 28: She have the red zone interception that Josh Allen threw.

1868
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 28: He you know, he said it after the game, that's

1869
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 28: just bad football.

1870
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 5: Now.

1871
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 28: Receivers were blanket. He's trying to make a play and

1872
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 28: we're not even in that position. We're actually at a

1873
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 28: third and one if we don't get an offensive PI.

1874
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 28: Which brings back to you know, everything working in unison

1875
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 28: and correlation throughout a football game. That interception does not

1876
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 28: happen if we don't have a PI on the previous play,

1877
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 28: and then the two fumbles are you know, that's that's

1878
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 28: an anomaly for the Bills. They haven't had a lost

1879
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 28: football lost fumble since the Ravens game in the regular

1880
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,719
Speaker 28: season game of last year. So this is a team

1881
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 28: that has taken care of the football in a big

1882
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 28: time way. And unfortunately last night they put the ball

1883
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 28: to turf twice and both times it's recovered by the Patriots.

1884
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 28: And so yeah, they did plenty to beat themselves, and

1885
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 28: offensively really struggled to get in the rhythm. Sean McDermott

1886
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 28: talked about that in this press conference after the game,

1887
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 28: But I believe a major point of that is simply

1888
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 28: the penalties. Yes, you have the turnovers, but the Bills

1889
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 28: have been averaging six point yards six point one yards

1890
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 28: per play on the season heading into the Patriots game.

1891
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 28: In the first half, they only scored three points, first

1892
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 28: time they've been held without a touchdown in the first

1893
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 28: half and forever. We've scored on our opening possession in

1894
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 28: all four games this season, but because of turnovers and penalties,

1895
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 28: we don't get to that thirty point mark. We only

1896
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 28: put up three points in the first half. Give the

1897
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 28: defense credit in the first half they were able to

1898
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 28: hold the Patriots only six points and keep us in

1899
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 28: that football game. But the penalties just completely ruined the

1900
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 28: plow of the game. And yes, that's a tickie tack crew,

1901
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 28: we knew it.

1902
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 11: Come again.

1903
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 28: We talked on the pregame broadcast, Chris about how John

1904
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 28: Hockeyley and his crew they like to get on TV.

1905
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 28: They like to hear their voice heard. I mean they

1906
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 28: even like give it explanations of the penalties and why

1907
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 28: you don't often get the why from officials.

1908
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 11: We were giving it last night at times.

1909
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 28: All that being said, Bill still found themselves in a

1910
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 28: position to win the game at the end, and the

1911
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 28: Patriots made the play. And we'll get to this, but

1912
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 28: sometimes you have to tip the cap to the opponent.

1913
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 28: Stefan Diggs came back in and made some incredible plays.

1914
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 28: There's times where he has too much cushion, I get it.

1915
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 28: There's other times where he's blanketed, he's falling out of bounds,

1916
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 28: he's got barely his toes in bounds, and he's making

1917
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 28: capescit catches along the sideline and really showing up for

1918
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 28: his second year quarterback.

1919
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 6: Certainly, this is a game that the Bills, you know,

1920
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 6: was a division game against the team that you really

1921
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 6: feel is going to chase you all season. So it's

1922
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 6: a tough one to lose, no question about it, particularly

1923
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 6: at home in an environment with the white out last night.

1924
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 6: By the way, the fans got the memo right. Everybody

1925
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 6: jumped on board with it. Tough game to lose, but

1926
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 6: by the same token, it's also an illustration of how

1927
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 6: tough the Bills are to beat. Three turnovers minus two

1928
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 6: on the turnover margin, eight penalties in the first half alone,

1929
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 6: two red zone. Two of those turnovers were in the

1930
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 6: red zone. The Bills fumbled it with keon in their

1931
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 6: own end deep end and Josh threw a pick down

1932
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 6: deep in the Patriots end, so both of those turnovers

1933
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 6: were absolutely critical. You get Steph Diggs making like about

1934
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 6: three i think at least two on the sidelines incredible

1935
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 6: one time only catches and he almost had three of

1936
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 6: them in this game alone. And Drake May does some

1937
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 6: stuff that really was impressive for a young quarterback, moving

1938
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 6: out of bounds, getting rid of the football, making some

1939
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 6: throws that were outstanding. All of that stuff goes into

1940
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 6: the mix for a three point win. That's how tough

1941
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 6: this Bills team really is to play. And that's why

1942
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 6: I think rightfully so if they stick to their process,

1943
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 6: just play a little better and a little better and

1944
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 6: cut out the mistakes.

1945
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 7: You know, they really don't have to alter course too much.

1946
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 28: No, especially on the offense side of the football. I

1947
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 28: don't necessarily have any concerns. I'm not saying I don't

1948
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 28: think there's steam things offensively. I don't think it's a

1949
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 28: personnel thing. You know, of course there's going to be

1950
01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 28: walls on offense throughout a game. Gonna have many perfect

1951
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,719
Speaker 28: games like we saw against New England in the playoffs,

1952
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 28: where you just rip off a touchdown on every single drive.

1953
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 28: I mean, there's gonna be lost throughout the game. You're

1954
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 28: playing against an NFL opponent. It just it is what

1955
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 28: it is. But uh, you know, offensively, it's cutting out

1956
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 28: those mistakes. And you know, Sean McDermot said after the game,

1957
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 28: they got a little too cute. And you know the

1958
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 28: number one offensive coordinator in the NFL last last year

1959
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 28: who got this Chicago Bears job, Bena Johnson. There are

1960
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,600
Speaker 28: times he runs cute stuff that doesn't work and you know,

1961
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 28: makes you look like a full in the moment. And

1962
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 28: there's a lot of times you run things and it

1963
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 28: results in big plays. It keeps the defense guessing, It

1964
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 28: gives teams something to prepare for for the following week

1965
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:43,719
Speaker 28: where they can't just pne in on your base stuff

1966
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 28: each and every week. I'm not saying we need to

1967
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 28: specialize in being cute quotes, but I see where there's

1968
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 28: a time and a place for those within a football game.

1969
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 28: And so offensively, though, are there some concerns about the defense? Yes,

1970
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 28: to those get on percent fixed when you get Ogan

1971
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 28: Joby and hoytback or Harrison back.

1972
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 11: No, not necessarily.

1973
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 28: This is also a defense that it's been a couple

1974
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 28: of years of transition with a lot of new players,

1975
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 28: you know, guys that are you know, gaining experience out there,

1976
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 28: and a whole bishop and some of these young defensive linemen.

1977
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 28: You got new guys on the edge of Bosa who's

1978
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 28: working himself into this scheme. And so I think this

1979
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 28: defensive unit can continue to get better throughout the season.

1980
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 28: But you talked about complimentary football, the rush, matching, the coverage,

1981
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 28: and I thought there was times last night where the

1982
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 28: pass rush was going to get home and it wasn't

1983
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 28: good enough on the back end, and then there was

1984
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 28: other times it was vice versa. And you know, one

1985
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 28: of the concerning things to me, and we talked about

1986
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 28: on the broadcast last night, Chris was New England in

1987
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 28: the second half at Drake Mego's thirteen to fourteen in

1988
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,759
Speaker 28: the second half, six for six in the fourth quarter,

1989
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 28: but they were keeping seven guys into pass protech. They

1990
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 28: did not respect our interior pass rush. They said, okay,

1991
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 28: our interior could block your in tier to chip both

1992
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 28: the defensive ends and make it really easy on these

1993
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 28: tackles to get some pass protection here. And if we

1994
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 28: only have three guys out on a route, because we

1995
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 28: have their quarterback plus seven protectors, if we only have

1996
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 28: three guys out there, we're pretty confident that one of

1997
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 28: them can't get open or drink, make them buy some

1998
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 28: time and then make a play to be able to

1999
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 28: get them open. And that's where we just didn't necessarily

2000
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 28: have an answer for it because we were getting out manned.

2001
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 28: I I don't think that the calls were wrong per se,

2002
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 28: but you know, watching that unfold in the second half

2003
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 28: and me and Chris into the booth, and you know,

2004
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 28: we're seeing the same thing, you know, the Bills coaches

2005
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 28: are seeing. You know, just there's some concerns there and

2006
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 28: so on the back end. I think we continue to

2007
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 28: get vetter as this group plays together. But you know,

2008
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 28: you had a night last night where it felt like

2009
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 28: at times you could kind of tell what was coming,

2010
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 28: but you just couldn't get it done on the.

2011
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 3: Back end, right, And I think that's why Bills fans

2012
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 3: are concerned. Look, I'm not putting this game on the

2013
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 3: defense at all. They get a ball, yeah fay from you.

2014
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not putting it on them at all.

2015
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 3: I mean, they get off the field on third down,

2016
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 3: Patriots go three for nine on third down, They get

2017
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 3: two red zone stops, including after a turnover on their

2018
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 3: own ten yard line, hold them to a field goal there.

2019
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 3: I mean, they did everything they could. And I think

2020
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 3: what people need to remember is this is a Bill's

2021
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 3: defense that is severely undermanned due to injury and suspension.

2022
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to be an apologist for that,

2023
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 3: but I think Bills fans would take that game from

2024
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 3: Buffalo's defense any day of the week. Holding them to

2025
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,839
Speaker 3: twenty until a last second field goal, because your offense

2026
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 3: should be good enough to outscore them in that situation.

2027
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 3: The offense is what really let them down last night,

2028
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 3: in my opinion, And I want to talk to you

2029
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 3: about this because I felt like one thing that the

2030
01:43:55,800 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 3: Patriots defense did very well was to disguise coverage and

2031
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 3: not give Josh Allen consistent man versus zone pre snap indicators,

2032
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 3: and I think it left him hesitant and unsure as

2033
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,719
Speaker 3: to where he was going with the football at the snap,

2034
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 3: and I think it led to him leaving the pocket

2035
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 3: prematurely on some plays when he did have players open

2036
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 3: if he just waited another half a second.

2037
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 28: Yeah, the what was late in the game where he

2038
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 28: scrambles out in the pocket early to his right, and

2039
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 28: you know, for every time he does that, it makes

2040
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 28: a remarkable play. You can't say, hey, Josh, sit in

2041
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 28: the pocket all the time, because you know what that

2042
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 28: if he sees out of the corner of his eye

2043
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 28: that the right defensive end loses contained.

2044
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 11: That's where Josh is at his best.

2045
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 28: That's where we've seen him make some of the greatest

2046
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 28: plays of his career. On that particular play, though, if

2047
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 28: he stands in the pocket, he's going to have an

2048
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 28: open receiver, likely for a touchdown down the field on

2049
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 28: a great play design. That one didn't work out at

2050
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 28: that moment, we have to settle for a field goal.

2051
01:44:59,600 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 8: And so.

2052
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 28: I do think that this defense, in the Patriots defense

2053
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 28: in general, has matched up pretty well against the Bills.

2054
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 28: You know, they have two good cornerbacks on the outside.

2055
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 28: You could attack the middle of the field, but they

2056
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 28: mix up coverages enough and they you know, muddy it

2057
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 28: up in the middle of the field enough because they

2058
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 28: got two good corners on the outside that it makes

2059
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 28: those throwing lengths tight. I think there was times last

2060
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 28: night we were weren't getting enough separation and manna man coverage,

2061
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 28: and then there were times where, you know, without hearing

2062
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 28: it from Josh or necessarily you know, watching it back

2063
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 28: on PHILD, we saw an unfold live and we could

2064
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 28: feel it. But you know, I'd kind of like to

2065
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,799
Speaker 28: hear that from Josh's words or Joe Brady's words, that

2066
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 28: that he became hesitant in those instances. But I do

2067
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 28: feel like it felt like one of those games where Okay,

2068
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 28: it's not going that smooth. All right, now, I'm gonna

2069
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 28: put this ball in my hands, and I'm fine with that.

2070
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 28: But we saw Josh get his knee dinged up at

2071
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 28: one point of the game where he's limping around, and

2072
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 28: this early in the season, we don't necessarily need a

2073
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 28: nine carry for fifty three yards rushing performance from Josh,

2074
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 28: especially when they're not designed runs where okay, we're designing

2075
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 28: it to go here where you could funnel yourself out

2076
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 28: of bounds or you know where the defenders are coming from,

2077
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 28: you take off of the middle of the defense, and

2078
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 28: that's where we saw Josh take some pretty good hits

2079
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 28: in the game last night. And so all that being said,

2080
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:27,760
Speaker 28: the past game, there are bright spots. Kincaid's second most

2081
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 28: receiving guards in the NFL for a tight end. There's

2082
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 28: been times where we've had to rely on at the

2083
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 28: end of the Ravens game, and you know, you like

2084
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 28: the world on fire, But for the most part, it

2085
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 28: seems like we're having to work pretty hard to be

2086
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 28: able to get those yards down the field. And I'm

2087
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 28: not putting it on the receivers. I'm not necessary putting

2088
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 28: on Josh. I'm not saying the protection's not good enough.

2089
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 28: It's just a combination of those things.

2090
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it looks very disjointed.

2091
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2092
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 6: How the offensive line plate last Yeah, and against the Patriots.

2093
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 28: Again not copping out, But without watching the film, I

2094
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 28: thought at times they did well, especially in pass protection.

2095
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 28: I thought that Christian Barmore had a really good game

2096
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 28: up front for the Patriots, which is, you know, saying

2097
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 28: that at times he was getting off blocks. The run

2098
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 28: game with the running backs last night averages right around

2099
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 28: three yards of carry, give or take, you know, point

2100
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 28: one either way. Can't remember exactly how it shook out.

2101
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 28: We were tracking it in the fourth quarter. Josh Allen

2102
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 28: makes the rushing total look better than it actually was

2103
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 28: last night, But a lot of that's because of the

2104
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,560
Speaker 28: penalties and the way the game unfolded. But when you

2105
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 28: get to second and six, you're balanced. Now you get

2106
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,680
Speaker 28: a procedural penalty, you get a PI whatever it may be,

2107
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 28: and now you're back at second eleven. It's hard to

2108
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 28: run the football when you assume, you know, good runs

2109
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 28: four to five yards and now you're sitting at a

2110
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 28: third and medium, third long, and so now you're in

2111
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 28: the past, you know, past situations.

2112
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 11: Again, have those penalties not happen?

2113
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 28: If we were able to continue to throw body blows

2114
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 28: at them and then potentially break those bigger runs. You know,

2115
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 28: maybe the rushing output with the running backs looks different,

2116
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 28: but I thought the offensive line was fined last night.

2117
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 28: I didn't see any glaring concerns out of them. Up

2118
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 28: brought the one fact that Williams got. Williams he got.

2119
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 28: It looked like a protection breakdown we could hear at

2120
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 28: our head center in the game. Looked like Josh set

2121
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 28: the protection left. David Edwards and Dion Dawkins are two

2122
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 28: on one on the left hand side, and we have

2123
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 28: three vockers for four guys.

2124
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 11: Williams come to the block, but we.

2125
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 28: Don't even have a guy for him in that situation,

2126
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 28: So I don't necessarily put that one on the O.

2127
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 3: Line right knowing some of the matchup concerns on defense

2128
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 3: because they're as shorthanded as they are, and we doubt

2129
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 3: that Milano is going to be back in the lineup

2130
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 3: this next week after reaggravating the pack we'll see, and

2131
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 3: knowing the skill position talent that the Atlanta Falcons have,

2132
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,600
Speaker 3: not to mention the fact that they're coming off a

2133
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 3: bye week and have had an extra week to prepare.

2134
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 5: For the Bills.

2135
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 3: What is your level of concern for them defensively matchup wise,

2136
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 3: knowing that there's going to be an awful lot of

2137
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 3: focus on stopping Jon Robinson and then you have Drake Lundon,

2138
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 3: Darnel Mooney, Kyle Pitts in matchup situations in the passing game, Yeah,

2139
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 3: you're going to have.

2140
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 28: To try and confuse a young quarterback in pedix and

2141
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 28: whether that's with some different pressure looks. We've seen Tom McDermott,

2142
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 28: Bobby Babbage be more aggressive with certain blitz packages against

2143
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 28: younger quarterbacks, just understanding they'll at that time of their

2144
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 28: career likely have the answers all figured out to those

2145
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 28: mixing with coverages to try and cloud those up down

2146
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 28: the field. And then it's got to be a big

2147
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 28: game from the defensive line.

2148
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 11: You know, when the.

2149
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 28: Secondary's banged up, the second level, your defense banged up,

2150
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 28: the defensive line has got to come to play.

2151
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 11: Hopefully you get at Oliver back this week. Hopefully you

2152
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 11: get a T. J.

2153
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:01,679
Speaker 28: Sanders back this week, can you know, fortify that front

2154
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 28: up there. But it's gonna have to be a big

2155
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 28: game for Greg Riso, Joey Bosa, a Jeffanisa, those guys

2156
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 28: on the edge, and we've seen flashes and some bright

2157
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Speaker 28: spots from those guys, but they're gonna have to be

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01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 28: more disruptive to help out that secondary, that second level

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01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 28: of the defense, and they're gonna have to play a

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01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 28: big game this week. B John Robinson, we were talking

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01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 28: on the round table yesterday and I made the point

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01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 28: that based upon age, work workload throughout the career, there

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01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 28: might not be anybody in the league I got to

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01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 28: take over James Cook, and then I corrected myself and said, well,

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Speaker 28: probably be Jon Robinson, just being realistic, but he was

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01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 28: also the fifth pick in the draft, and you know

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01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 28: he's a big time talent coming out of Texas, and

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Speaker 28: so Bills are gonna have their hands full defensively. This

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Speaker 28: is a this is a unit that plays really well

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Speaker 28: when Pennix plays well. And he's had one really good

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01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 28: game this year and they looked really good, and he's

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01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 28: had a few bad ones, and you know, they have

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Speaker 28: the bye week to do some self scouting. You know

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Speaker 28: a lot of times you go in the bye week

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Speaker 28: and you hope you don't have a Week five by

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Speaker 28: but they had the Week five bye, so you have

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Speaker 28: four games. Sample size and say here's where we're at,

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Speaker 28: this is what we're good at.

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Speaker 11: This we're gonna lean into.

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Speaker 28: And so Bills are gonna get a strong effort from

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01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,799
Speaker 28: the Falcons, and you know, you get Monday night football

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Speaker 28: prime time, and all those Falcons guys are gonna be thinking, Look,

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01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 28: the Patriots just shocked them.

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Speaker 11: This isn't this team isn't unbeatable.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been a roller coaster for the Falcons. They

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01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 6: lost a coast from the Tampa Bay on opening Day,

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Speaker 6: then they blew out the Minnesota Vikings twenty two to six,

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Speaker 6: then got crushed by the Panthers zero to thirty, and

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Speaker 6: then they won this last week or two weeks ago

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Speaker 6: against the Washington Commanders. They beat them by a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: But then they're coming off a bye week, so they're

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Speaker 6: gonna be fresh.

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Speaker 7: What's the step you'd like to see?

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Speaker 6: What's something that you'd like to see from the Bills

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01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 6: offense going forward that maybe they've been good at and

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01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 6: maybe haven't done enough, or anything else you'd like to say.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, for me, it's it's eliminating the pre snap penalties.

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01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 28: Continue to lean into the run game, but not necessarily,

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Speaker 28: not necessarily be predictable with the run game, establish the

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01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 28: run game, and when you get the right boxes, get

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Speaker 28: to your play action game. Josh Allen under center, and

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01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 28: play action this year has been excellent. Those tight ends

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01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,759
Speaker 28: or matchup nightmares, you know, lean into that and then

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Speaker 28: you know, whether it's eleven personnel or whatever it may be,

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Speaker 28: figure out your looks. We can certainly run the football

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Speaker 28: out of that personnel group as well, and you know

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01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 28: we've well established how we've been able to compromise teams

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01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 28: with our thirteen personnel. Is there, you know, a package

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Speaker 28: out of eleven personnel too, where we still lean into

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Speaker 28: the run game. Maybe it's not all shotgun and we're

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01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 28: working some matchups that way as well, But to me, offensively,

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Speaker 28: the biggest thing is just not hurting yourselves, making smart

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01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 28: decisions with the football, securing the football, and not having

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01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 28: penalties because what they could stay on schedule some one

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01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 28: of the best offense in the league, if not the

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01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 28: best offense in the league. And then defensively, you know,

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01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 28: we sawid improvement from the run defense this week against

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Speaker 28: New England. Continue to hit your run fits, be physical,

2219
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 28: chase the backside like we saw Rousseau do at the

2220
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 28: start last night for a tackle for loss. They were physical,

2221
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:29,680
Speaker 28: they played downhill. Okay, well, what's that takeaway from the

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01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 28: past defense? You know, did we commit to stopping to

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01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 28: run so much that we gave up some down the

2224
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 28: field in the past defense. I truly think this pass

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01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 28: rush has just got to get home more consistently. And

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01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 28: I'm not putting it all on the front four. Is

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01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:47,560
Speaker 28: there second level defenders we may need to bring? Is

2228
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 28: there different looks that we could give opposing offenses to

2229
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 28: muddy those cloud up those looks down the field to

2230
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 28: get guys in a better position to make plays.

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Speaker 5: Eric, thanks for the time.

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01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 3: As always, We'll see you down in the atl later

2233
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 3: this week.

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Speaker 11: Okay, sounds good, looking forward to guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's Eric Wood joining us, my broadcast partner

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01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,639
Speaker 3: on the Bills Radio Network. Joins us every Monday here

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01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 3: and we will take a break and step aside and

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Speaker 3: come back with more on a Buffalo football Monday here

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Speaker 3: on one Bills Live presented by Kalida Help hits Buffalo

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Speaker 3: Bills for Radio here being check In presented by the

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Speaker 3: University of Wyoming. You're ready for any field with the

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Speaker 3: University of Wyoming, a proud partner of the Buffalo Bills

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01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 3: Josh Allen statline last night twenty of twenty two or sorry,

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01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 3: twenty two of thirty one for seventy one percent completion,

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Speaker 3: two hundred fifty three pass yards, two touchdowns, a pick

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Speaker 3: a one oh three three passer rating. He also ran

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Speaker 3: for fifty three yards. He was the Bills leading rusher.

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Speaker 3: One other thing to note. With his two hundred and

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01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 3: fifty three passing yard yards last night, he moved into

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Speaker 3: second place on the Bills all time passing list, passing

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Speaker 3: Joe Ferguson. As Josh now has twenty seven thousand, six

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01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty one passing yards. Ferguson had twenty seven

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01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 3: thousand and five ninety, so now number two on the

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Speaker 3: all time Bill's passing list.

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Speaker 5: Congrats to him on doing that.

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Speaker 3: Want to get back to the phones at eighth three,

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Speaker 3: five fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 3: here on a Buffalo Football Monday, and we go to

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Speaker 3: Dennis in Buffalo next.

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Speaker 5: What's up, Dennis?

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Speaker 17: How you doing? I'd just like to make a comment

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01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 17: on the last play of the game. Uh, there was

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01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 17: eight seconds left, you have no timeouts? Why are you

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01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 17: throwing the ball to the middle of the field and

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01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 17: not to the sidelines. I've coached football for thirty five years.

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Speaker 17: I mean nowhere near these guys. They're standards, but I

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01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 17: mean it's time. I don't understand their thinking.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, so I watched it back on the all twenty

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01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 3: two and Shakir was running underneath. So I believe with

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01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 3: an accurate throat to Palmer, they were going to run

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01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 3: the hooking ladder there, and Shakier was going to run

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01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 3: up the near sideline and get out of bounds, presumably

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01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 3: before the clock ran out. The problem was there were

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Speaker 3: three defenders around Palmer. Josh's pass was not accurate. Palmer

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01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 3: had to go to the ground just to make the catch,

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01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 3: which eliminated any chance for a lateral.

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Speaker 5: We were saying this earlier.

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Speaker 3: It probably would have been best if Palmer just didn't

2280
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 3: catch the ball altogether. Now, of course, that leaves only

2281
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 3: five seconds or four seconds, and then you're really up

2282
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 3: a creen.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's kind of what happened, Dennis.

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01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 6: So it was it was not supposed to be a

2285
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 6: pass over the middle, go down and try and spike

2286
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:55,640
Speaker 6: it or something like that.

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Speaker 7: They had. It was one of those last ditch lateral things.

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01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was something more than what it turned

2289
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 3: out to be, and it was just poorly, poorly executed.

2290
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Speaker 6: And if yeah, and that's there was about twenty five

2291
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 6: different plays that were probably had potential to make more

2292
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 6: of an impact on that game than that one did

2293
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 6: because of the time on the clock.

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01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 7: But yeah, now you're.

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01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 5: The second guy that's yeah, had a problem.

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01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 7: We had a problem with that. Let's go to.

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01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 5: John in Buffalo next. What's up John?

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01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 8: Hey, how you guys are doing hanging in there? Okay?

2299
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 8: So what I want to talk about is like the

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01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 8: receiver room in the leadership and I feel that we

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01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 8: don't have anybody who's vocal in there. I mean, when

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01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 8: we had takes up to the end of twenty three,

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01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 8: he is no doubt that the leader of that room

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01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 8: and also a leader on the field. Now, I like

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01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 8: our guys' skill sets, but they're too quiet. We got

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01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 8: too many quiet guys and there's not a leader there.

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01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 8: I mean on Steve's scenes, he had a ton of leaders,

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Speaker 8: and I mean so many that they became the bickery

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01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 8: bills for a little while there. And it's like the

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01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 8: same thing with the defensive back room. Who's the leader

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01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 8: out there? I mean, we had like Poyer and height.

2312
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 8: You couldn't keep Poyer's mouth shut. I mean it seems

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01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 8: like we don't have that leadership on the field. Last

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01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 8: year in our receiver room, I believe Mac Collins was

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01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 8: our wite leader, but now we lost him, we got

2316
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 8: all these quiet guys. Yeah, I want to see what

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01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 8: you guys have to say about it.

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01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 3: That's not a bad question, John, I don't know if

2319
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 3: it's yet to emerge in a receiver room that has

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01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 3: largely been turned over. Shakira is the longest tenured receiver

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01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 3: on the roster, so maybe it's him, I would argue.

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01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 3: On in the secondary, you've got Taron Johnson, who is

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01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 3: a leader and is vocal. If you don't see him

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01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 3: on camera doing a lot of that stuff, he does

2325
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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 5: In the locker room behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: He is the veteran leader of that group, unquestionably, and

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01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 3: I think Taylor Rap has taken on more of a

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01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 3: leadership role as well, because we even heard.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Christian Benford really emerged in the training camp after

2331
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 6: he signed his extension as a kind of an alpha

2332
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 6: back there as well. So yeah, the other side of

2333
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 6: the ball seems to have that, and I get what

2334
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 6: you mean. You need somebody who's going to say how

2335
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 6: it's going to be in there. I would think that

2336
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 6: would that mantle would fall to Shakir, and I don't

2337
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 6: know that it's not there. I don't know the dynamic

2338
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 6: in that room. Certainly Palmer and Moore and Shaves and

2339
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 6: these guys, they haven't been there that long, right, Shave's

2340
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 6: been there three years, but he just made the roster

2341
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 6: this year, so.

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01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 7: There is a lot of in that.

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01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:50,839
Speaker 6: So it may be that they don't have an alpha,

2344
01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 6: or maybe that you know, more than one alpha. I

2345
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 6: don't know, but it's yeah, you can don't be fooled

2346
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:00,840
Speaker 6: by thinking that just because you don't hear these guys

2347
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 6: in the media, that there don't have a voice in

2348
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 6: the locker room. I'm not sure you know what you're

2349
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 6: what information you're using to say that there's too quiet.

2350
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 6: They might be, but you know, Kean, I don't think

2351
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 6: is very is shy. I know Khalil is pretty secure

2352
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 6: in his own skin. So I don't think there's anybody

2353
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 6: who's not willing or capable of being that guy. I

2354
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 6: don't know that the room is exactly as you think

2355
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 6: it might be. But yeah, so it's it's something. Yeah

2356
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Speaker 6: if if there's nobody in there speaking like that, you're right.

2357
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Speaker 6: They do need a guy in there.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to Jack in Lockport next. What's up Jack?

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Speaker 27: Hey, guys, how are you good?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 27: My big concern is when do they It just seemed,

2362
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Speaker 27: and I don't want to pick on the guy, it

2363
02:00:53,560 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 27: seemed like, uh, oh my god, twenty seven getting burned

2364
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 27: all day, right.

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Speaker 13: Or wrong.

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Speaker 27: I don't know what the covers as were, but he's

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Speaker 27: lost the step. He'said two major injuries. I understand it,

2368
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Speaker 27: but you know, and somebody like Matt Mullano, he's a

2369
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 27: great player, but he can't stay healthy. You know, when

2370
02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:28,840
Speaker 27: do the When does hierarchy pull the plug and say, Okay,

2371
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 27: these guys just can't do it anymore.

2372
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 7: Now, that's good question.

2373
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 6: After a three point hard fought division loss, probably they're

2374
02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 6: not going to do anything, particularly given the situation with

2375
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 6: their injury list. I think Dorian Strong was starting to

2376
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 6: get reps and starting to be platooned with Trdavious to

2377
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 6: come in and play a larger role. And you know,

2378
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 6: his neck injury has precluded his ability to do that,

2379
02:01:58,080 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 6: he's going to be gone for another of three weeks,

2380
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 6: so that kind of got derailed. Max Harrison's same thing.

2381
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:12,440
Speaker 6: I don't think because of this loss last night, you're

2382
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 6: gonna abandon ship on any player, you know, the ones

2383
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 6: that are injured, of course, and a lot of people

2384
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,840
Speaker 6: are impatient with Matt Malano and his health in his

2385
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 6: recent history. I get that, But I was telling Brownie this,

2386
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 6: if you can put in your mind's eye that the

2387
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:30,320
Speaker 6: Bills won that game last night, like they the Patriots

2388
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:32,720
Speaker 6: fumbled on their last drive, Bills got it, moved it

2389
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 6: two plays, kicked a long field goal of their own,

2390
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 6: and they won it somehow someway today, the narrative would be,

2391
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,880
Speaker 6: you know, we're getting by with Tradevie's the injuries that

2392
02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 6: we've had to sustain and get over having hers, We're

2393
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:49,160
Speaker 6: still managing to play well without them. Let's just keep

2394
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 6: on keeping on. I wouldn't deviate from that. That was

2395
02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:54,920
Speaker 6: a very difficult game for the Patriots to win last night.

2396
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 6: They had to have a ton of penalties, three turnovers

2397
02:02:57,600 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 6: from a team who never turns it over, and a

2398
02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:05,240
Speaker 6: lot of things happen off script that allowed them to

2399
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 6: win that game. By the skin of their teeth. That's

2400
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 6: not a reason to abandon ship for the Buffalo Bills

2401
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 6: and their roster decisions.

2402
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just don't think it's enough for that.

2403
02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 6: Certainly, the loss is tough, and it's a bad loss

2404
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 6: because it's the division loss. Now you're in a race.

2405
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:26,280
Speaker 6: Now you've got a smaller lead in the division. I

2406
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:30,000
Speaker 6: get all of that, but I don't think they're going

2407
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 6: to make any rash judgments about playing time and reps

2408
02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 6: until everybody's healthy and they've got a full roster.

2409
02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:39,520
Speaker 3: And that's how you have to look at Buffalo's defense

2410
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 3: until that happens. Because what the coaching staff is doing

2411
02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 3: right now with the players they have available, they are

2412
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 3: triaging the defense. They are so shorthanded they are holding

2413
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 3: it together with duct tape and band aids right now

2414
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:56,880
Speaker 3: because they just don't have the manpower number one to

2415
02:03:56,960 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 3: put the best eleven on the field. Number two to

2416
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 3: probably call all the defensive calls they might want to

2417
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 3: call against to give an opponent because they don't have

2418
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:09,280
Speaker 3: the best eleven to execute some plays that only the

2419
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:13,120
Speaker 3: starters can execute, So they're left with a smaller menu

2420
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:17,640
Speaker 3: of plays because they have a smaller roster of capable players.

2421
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 3: They're just hanging on by their fingernails right now and

2422
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 3: just hoping to get to the place where they're healthier.

2423
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 6: And they gave up twenty three points. I mean, yeah,

2424
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 6: they're Yeah. Last night you had an off night by

2425
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 6: the offense, a really off night because you can say

2426
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 6: it was an off night because the Patriot. It wasn't

2427
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:41,160
Speaker 6: anything the Patriots did. The Patriots didn't fumble the snap

2428
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 6: and bump it off Dawson Knox's hip, you know, so

2429
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:50,760
Speaker 6: I'm and drop a ball inside their own ten yard

2430
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 6: line like you know, like Keon did. That's all on

2431
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 6: the Bills offense, and the complexion of that game and

2432
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 6: the trajectory of that game changes greatly with that side

2433
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:02,920
Speaker 6: of the ball. So the defense and certainly, you know,

2434
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:06,280
Speaker 6: like Brownie said, they don't have the guys they thought

2435
02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 6: they were gonna have by any stretch of the imagination,

2436
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 6: let alone forget the suspensions.

2437
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:12,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the injuries.

2438
02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 6: That have really crippled their ability to be the defense

2439
02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 6: they thought they were going to be.

2440
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 5: So Marvin on a sale, what's up?

2441
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:24,240
Speaker 17: Marvin, Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. I uh listened in that

2442
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 17: last caller my sentiments the same. You know, Nick Thurmott

2443
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:32,160
Speaker 17: said after the game there was self inflicted wounds. Well,

2444
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 17: anytime you put Trey White on the field, you're you're

2445
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,000
Speaker 17: you're inflicting pain on yourself.

2446
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:39,800
Speaker 5: Who would you rather play right now, Marvin?

2447
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 17: He who I would get? I would get somebody off

2448
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 17: the waivers. I'll be quite out of Trey White is

2449
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 17: not the man he used to be, and it's a shame.

2450
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:51,080
Speaker 17: He was a great player. But at the end of

2451
02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:55,480
Speaker 17: the day, watching him try that and try hard, you

2452
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 17: can see he's trying her. He's just lost out there

2453
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,600
Speaker 17: because he doesn't have the ability to cover. So that's

2454
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 17: one thing that I cannot believe that they put him

2455
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:05,880
Speaker 17: out there. He will get eaten up just the way

2456
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,680
Speaker 17: he did every week like that, and it puts more

2457
02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 17: pressure on the other players on defense. He should not

2458
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 17: be on the field. The Rams didn't drop him in

2459
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 17: the Baltimore didn't drop him for no reason. Cornerback is

2460
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 17: a position that every team loves, and if he had

2461
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 17: anything left in him, he would have been with one

2462
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 17: of those teams. I know, Vic Dermott, with the culture

2463
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 17: and all that stuff, I'd go on the waiver wires

2464
02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 17: And the other thing to is Bishop he whiffed on

2465
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 17: about two or three tackles these guys. Tackling is terrible, terrible.

2466
02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 17: But you talk about self inflicting wounds, having prey white up,

2467
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:42,240
Speaker 17: And I'll be honest with you, Bedford hasn't been no

2468
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:45,680
Speaker 17: star either this year. Bedford, He's got a lot to

2469
02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 17: be desired. So at the end of the day, those

2470
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,080
Speaker 17: are a couple of things that I saw in the

2471
02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:53,960
Speaker 17: play calling. When I see it, when I see those

2472
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:58,360
Speaker 17: and the wide receiver screens and the you're gonna have

2473
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:02,080
Speaker 17: knocks get the ball down the bumble, Oh my god,

2474
02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:04,120
Speaker 17: it was just it's a shame. So at the end

2475
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 17: of the day, there's a lot of things to take

2476
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:08,600
Speaker 17: away from this game. And love the Buffalo Bills, but

2477
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:11,040
Speaker 17: at the end of the day, they need to straighten

2478
02:07:11,080 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 17: that defense out. I mean, it's bad, really bad.

2479
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 6: All right, Well wait a minute, let me let me

2480
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 6: just I'll give you a little pushback. You can talk

2481
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 6: if you want about the reverse play to not if

2482
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:26,960
Speaker 6: you can't execute a center exchange and a handoff. I mean,

2483
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 6: that's that's not on the coach's ram. But come on,

2484
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 6: and I'll say this too. If you go around the rights.

2485
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:35,960
Speaker 6: If you look at that from the back end, Knox

2486
02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:37,360
Speaker 6: was going to run for a first down on a

2487
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 6: first and ten play, that was going to be a

2488
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:41,879
Speaker 6: first down. There was nobody out there. He had two blockers,

2489
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:43,960
Speaker 6: two defenders, and both of them were ten yards off

2490
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 6: the ball. There was nothing but wide open spaces out there.

2491
02:07:46,680 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 6: So if you can't do that, that's one thing. Now

2492
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:51,960
Speaker 6: here's another thing. The Bills up to this point, and

2493
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:55,240
Speaker 6: I get it, they haven't played a murderer's row, but

2494
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:57,400
Speaker 6: to a tong of Alowa threw for one hundred and

2495
02:07:57,480 --> 02:08:01,240
Speaker 6: forty six yards, spencer thatitler through for one hundred and

2496
02:08:01,280 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 6: twenty six yards. Nobody is killing this defense through the air,

2497
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 6: whether Trey White's out there or not.

2498
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 17: They don't need to. They've grown at us.

2499
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:13,080
Speaker 5: That's not They didn't last night.

2500
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:15,760
Speaker 6: Last night they ran for less than sixty yards. So

2501
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:18,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I I mean, I get it. It's hard

2502
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 6: to see Steph Diggs bust out and blow up like

2503
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 6: he did, but that's the first time has happened all year.

2504
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 17: And that brings to my point. Steph Diggs with an

2505
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:32,360
Speaker 17: injury not the man he used to be when he

2506
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 17: was with Buffalo, not even near and he looked like

2507
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 17: he was the first year we got him.

2508
02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:38,839
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know.

2509
02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:41,600
Speaker 6: It's hard to look like an A plus A one

2510
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 6: receiver in an NFL football game and not be an

2511
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:48,240
Speaker 6: A plus A one receiver.

2512
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 7: You can he's not about.

2513
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:53,160
Speaker 17: He's not the man who used to be. He's not. No,

2514
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:54,280
Speaker 17: he's nowhere near the man.

2515
02:08:54,520 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 7: I don't know. It looked like he was. He looked

2516
02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:57,720
Speaker 7: like he was the exact same guy.

2517
02:08:57,880 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred yards last week too.

2518
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 6: So just saying, I mean, well, I listen, I get it.

2519
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm with Brownie. You can say what you

2520
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 6: want about Tredavious and the tackling and all of that.

2521
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 6: The defense still wasn't the issue last night. It was

2522
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:17,480
Speaker 6: the offense and turning over. It was getting pre snap

2523
02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:21,560
Speaker 6: and holding penalties and all the other penalties and poor execution.

2524
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 6: The Bills did it to themselves, and you can Trenevious

2525
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:30,400
Speaker 6: White's a part of that. I get it, But I'm

2526
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:33,920
Speaker 6: not gonna go out and pick up a guy off

2527
02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 6: the waiver wire and plug him into this defense.

2528
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:40,400
Speaker 3: And let's go back to what we mentioned earlier. This

2529
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:42,240
Speaker 3: is just my opinion. I don't know this for sure,

2530
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:46,360
Speaker 3: and Steve mentioned it as well. Dorian Strong was getting

2531
02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:49,240
Speaker 3: worked into the lineup last.

2532
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:51,400
Speaker 5: Week with Trudavious White.

2533
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 3: He would come in for a series and then Trey

2534
02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:55,240
Speaker 3: would come back in for two, and then Dorian Strong

2535
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:59,200
Speaker 3: came back in for a series. It's I believe they

2536
02:09:59,240 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 3: were Strong given him a little bit at a time,

2537
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,360
Speaker 3: and if he handled that and played better and better,

2538
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:10,680
Speaker 3: I think he would have eventually supplanted Tredavious White in

2539
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 3: the starting lineup.

2540
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:14,160
Speaker 5: I think there was a plan in place to do that.

2541
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:17,640
Speaker 3: But unfortunately Strong has a neck injury and he's on IR,

2542
02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:20,600
Speaker 3: so you don't have another option. I mean, you you

2543
02:10:20,680 --> 02:10:23,760
Speaker 3: have JaMarcus Ingram, but he's been inactive for the first

2544
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:26,840
Speaker 3: four weeks. He was active yesterday because he was their

2545
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:31,280
Speaker 3: third corner. A lot of what we have seen is

2546
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:36,440
Speaker 3: out of necessity, not preference, because of the shorthanded nature

2547
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:38,360
Speaker 3: of the bodies they have on that side.

2548
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 5: Of the ball. We got to take a break here.

2549
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:42,200
Speaker 3: We'll step aside, take a couple more phone calls when

2550
02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:58,800
Speaker 3: we get back here on one Bill's Live. Back here

2551
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,920
Speaker 3: on one Bill's Live News for Patriots running back Antonio

2552
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:06,320
Speaker 3: Gibson he's been declared out for the season. You might

2553
02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:09,000
Speaker 3: remember he left after a kick return last night. Cam

2554
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 3: Lewis labeled him, but the injury actually happened right before that.

2555
02:11:13,240 --> 02:11:16,480
Speaker 3: His knee buckled when he tried to cut inside. He

2556
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 3: tore his ACL, so he is out for the season.

2557
02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:22,440
Speaker 3: The running back depth of the Patriots takes a hit.

2558
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:25,760
Speaker 3: Gonna squeeze in a phone call here before we're out

2559
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:27,480
Speaker 3: of here, we go to Paul on Grand Island.

2560
02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 5: What do you got for us? Paul?

2561
02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:31,920
Speaker 29: Hey, guys, sorry, I just want to say one thing.

2562
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:35,760
Speaker 29: We're blessed to have Josh Allen. He's wonderful ass up

2563
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 29: for Western New York and all the Bills fans. We

2564
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:39,960
Speaker 29: have that. But I got to get issue you guys

2565
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 29: a couple questions. Okay, I saw Tom Brady never ran

2566
02:11:43,880 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 29: in his life, and Josh Allen runs for his life.

2567
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:49,880
Speaker 29: Why is that? Somebody's got to explain that to me.

2568
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:53,680
Speaker 29: Why does Josh Allen run for his life and Tom

2569
02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 29: Brady never ran in his life? He never ran in

2570
02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 29: New England. He won the Super Bowls there. He went

2571
02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 29: on to Tampa. He didn't have to run down there.

2572
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:06,720
Speaker 29: He'd and he also won a Super Bowl in Tampa.

2573
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:10,200
Speaker 29: Why don't we block what's going on? I really respect

2574
02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:10,960
Speaker 29: your opinions.

2575
02:12:11,080 --> 02:12:13,520
Speaker 3: He's one of the least that quarterbacks in the league

2576
02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:17,040
Speaker 3: the last two years running. He runs because it's part

2577
02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:20,440
Speaker 3: of his game. It was not part of Tom Brady's game,

2578
02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:22,360
Speaker 3: who you could have timed with a sundial.

2579
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:27,880
Speaker 6: Tom didn't run because he could not run. He was

2580
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:31,320
Speaker 6: He had to get rid of the ball, had to, Yeah,

2581
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Speaker 6: had to.

2582
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Speaker 3: That was what his game had to be, getting it

2583
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:36,800
Speaker 3: out quick, which he was maybe one of the best

2584
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Speaker 3: ever at doing.

2585
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he was great and Peyton Manning same thing.

2586
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:45,200
Speaker 6: Josh runs. And I also tell you this too. Most

2587
02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:50,480
Speaker 6: quarterbacks or most defensive coordinators will tell you they do

2588
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:53,320
Speaker 6: not want to play against a quarterback that can run.

2589
02:12:53,800 --> 02:12:57,280
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying they'd rather play against Josh than Tom,

2590
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:00,720
Speaker 6: or Tom rather than Lamar or or something like that,

2591
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 6: but there is that in there. They they really have

2592
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:06,600
Speaker 6: problem because a quarterback who can run can make a

2593
02:13:06,640 --> 02:13:11,320
Speaker 6: play last a long time and the defense breaks down quick.

2594
02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:16,000
Speaker 3: So that's why he's the most feared quarterback in the

2595
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:18,760
Speaker 3: red zone because he can beat you with his arm,

2596
02:13:18,840 --> 02:13:20,680
Speaker 3: and he can beat you with his legs and even

2597
02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:23,680
Speaker 3: if you have a spy. Sometimes he runs right through

2598
02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 3: that guy because he's six six.

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02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 5: Paul.

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Speaker 6: I don't know you, we've never met or anything like that,

2601
02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:31,520
Speaker 6: but I know this. You can outrun Tom Brady. Yeah,

2602
02:13:31,720 --> 02:13:35,520
Speaker 6: he can't. He couldn't outrun the goalpost, so he wasn't

2603
02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:36,320
Speaker 6: going to go anywhere.

2604
02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:37,040
Speaker 7: He had to do.

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02:13:37,200 --> 02:13:39,080
Speaker 6: That's had to be part of his game and that

2606
02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:41,280
Speaker 6: and he maximized it absolutely, no question.

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02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a Buffalo Football Monday edition for us here

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Speaker 3: on one Bill's Live. We will be back tomorrow with

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02:13:50,200 --> 02:13:54,760
Speaker 3: more rehash of Bill's Patriots. Will also begin to turn

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02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:58,600
Speaker 3: the page to Bill's Falcons, as they will be playing

2611
02:13:58,600 --> 02:14:01,200
Speaker 3: on Monday Night football on the road.

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Speaker 5: First road game in a month. I had three straight.

2613
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Speaker 3: Home games here. Pretty wild. You don't see that very often.

2614
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Speaker 3: So back on the road next week for the first

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Speaker 3: time in a month.

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Speaker 5: Their last road game was the Jets. Just crazy to think.

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Speaker 3: On tomorrow's show, Mitch Morse joins us as well as

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Speaker 3: our good friend from ESPN, Dan Orlovsky for some more breakdowns.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow at one