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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Bars.

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Speaker 2: And Lazarre.

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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody nailed it? Joined us always buy ours Bar.

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Speaker 1: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Bars. You don't want

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Speaker 1: them to have running backs. You don't want them to

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Speaker 1: them to take a guy in the seventh round, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and for him to run for two point three yards

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Speaker 1: for carrying them because you'd rather they never run the

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Speaker 1: ball ever, because that's what the nerd mas hell know.

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Speaker 1: They are going to run the ball. They need a

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Speaker 3: An age old discussion of do running backs matter? That

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Speaker 3: I think we've been arguing about do running backs matter

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Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen? Yes, maybe since the day we started

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Speaker 3: working together. And I stand by my take on that.

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Speaker 3: But we don't have to argue about that anymore. It's Emilzar,

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Speaker 3: Alex Bars Patriots Catch twenty two. Here with you on

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Speaker 3: a Tuesday, because of course Thursday is July fourth, big day.

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Speaker 3: I think July fourth is your favorite day of the year.

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Speaker 1: July fourth and Thanksgiving those are probably my two favorite holidays,

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Speaker 1: the most American holidays. Well, it's think about it, you're

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Speaker 1: just kind of sitting around. There's good food one where

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Speaker 1: the other, either Thanksgiving dinner or barbecue, just kind of

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Speaker 1: hanging out Thanksgiving his football. Fourth of July is the beach,

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Speaker 1: Like that's that's all I need. I'll play some golf.

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Speaker 1: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you a cookout holiday guy or Thanksgiving? We're not Christmas?

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Speaker 1: But well that's what I'm saying. I they're both good.

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Speaker 1: They're both good. It's food, man. I'm gonna make some

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Speaker 1: wings this year. I feel like I prefer Mom makes

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Speaker 1: really good steak tips every year on the fourth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm ana. I might be a Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Guy, but you don't. But you don't like turkey.

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Speaker 3: You know what, though, we we've made our own turkey

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Speaker 1: It's it's you gotta have a homemade turkey.

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Speaker 3: No, we always had a homemade turkey growing up. But

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying Jess and I have made the turkey ourselves,

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Speaker 3: and it's it's better than what I remember. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to put I don't want to throw anybody

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Speaker 3: I don't want to point and say that anybody is

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Speaker 3: I come from a family, especially my mom's side. I'm

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Speaker 3: And I know nobody cares about this, but.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell it's the middle of the off season.

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Speaker 3: Exactly that any sort of seasoning on the food is

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Speaker 1: of July. You can have a really good kickout cookout.

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Speaker 1: They usually do a special score bug for the finals,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even that it's brutal. Hey, Patriots fans.

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Speaker 1: And they've got they got rid of half the team.

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Speaker 1: he regressed last year. I don't. That doesn't mean the

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Speaker 1: Do you really believe that, Yes, they don't have a

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Speaker 3: they don't look at it like they tore the roster.

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Speaker 1: Who are they the Bills? The Bills are looking I

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Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm just telling you that the Bills look

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Speaker 1: Good for them, congratulations, that can be how they see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but what if they're right, Like what if they're

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Speaker 1: Like what if? They're just right about some of the TXT,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I still until somebody what if it throns the Bills.

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Speaker 3: They have won the division every year since.

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Speaker 1: They want to buy. Like the game last year Rogers

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're not doing the division. I just for twenty years.

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Speaker 3: No, but that's I think probably more because even though

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Speaker 3: So there's a difference that they have three good teams

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Speaker 1: By the game, there's a difference between being the favorite

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Speaker 3: That's the difference. I know why you're so offended by that.

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Speaker 3: They won the division four years in a row.

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Speaker 1: And they got worse. They won the division four years

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Speaker 3: But there was definitely last year there was a an

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Speaker 3: As we see with wide receivers for generations, at some

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Speaker 1: I hear you.

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Speaker 3: With the Bills, they are in a direction right now

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Speaker 1: This is what I would say, this is where the

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Speaker 1: still have't won the division. So I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair. I am fascinated by this division though,

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Speaker 3: I think we all agree the Patriots aren't there yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But I also think that you pointed to Sean McDermott, who,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely going into the season.

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Speaker 1: So I has to be out. I love to give

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Speaker 1: It's not a long list. Generally, you don't get that

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Speaker 1: Oh well, that's why I make this take more about

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't. Like, Uh, Shannhan's better coach, yeah than McDermott is.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even I'm not going to debate that.

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Speaker 1: But you go back to that list right and here

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Speaker 3: But yeah, for all of his faults with Kyle Shannon,

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Speaker 1: No, it's very much tied to avoid that.

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermot can barely gets to the conference champions right.

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Speaker 3: All right, But let we can move on from that.

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Speaker 3: I think we people understand where we're at, Richard kind

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Speaker 3: Do you guys believe we'll be picking in the top

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Speaker 3: They just have an incredibly difficult schedule for a team

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Speaker 3: five pick, I can't imagine a worse season from hell

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Speaker 3: than what they had last year. Yeah, and they still

435
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Speaker 3: picked three overall. Right, so you're still you're still talking

436
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Speaker 3: about winning a really winning a three or four games

437
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Speaker 3: at most to be in the top five.

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Speaker 1: It's almost hard to do.

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Speaker 3: Like they were so bad last year, and it's still

440
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Speaker 3: they were almost vying to not be that eye, right,

441
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Speaker 3: and we know about the game in Pittsburgh on Thursday

442
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Speaker 3: night and the Christmas Eve game in Denver.

443
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Speaker 1: They needed some tie breakers.

444
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Speaker 3: They they were right there to being from anywhere to

445
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Speaker 3: three to like six or seven towards the end of

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Speaker 3: the season. And that was with some of the most

447
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Speaker 3: deplorable offensive football I've ever.

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Speaker 1: Seen at the professional league.

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Speaker 3: Right, So just put that in perspect I did. The

450
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Speaker 3: schedule is really really difficult. I don't think that they

451
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Speaker 3: will be a top five teams solely because the roster

452
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Speaker 3: talent doesn't allow them to win more games. I just

453
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Speaker 3: don't know if they're gonna be ready to win a

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Speaker 3: competitive game against some of the teams that they're gonna

455
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Speaker 3: be going up against. Hard to find a lot of

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Speaker 3: cupcakes or easy wins on the schedule this year.

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Speaker 1: So I'll just play spoiler here and I think right

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Speaker 1: around five, I think they'll pick lower than they did

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Speaker 1: last year, or like further down, I don't think they'll.

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Speaker 3: Be I would say that just to finish, like, I

461
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Speaker 3: would say that maybe around seven or eight is where

462
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Speaker 3: I'm at right now in terms of where they'll be

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Speaker 3: in the draft order a year from now.

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Speaker 1: So would I would put the number like four and

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Speaker 1: a half in terms of the draft order, in terms

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Speaker 1: of the draft pick, like, are they you know, picking

467
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Speaker 1: before top four? After just to play Devil's out you

468
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Speaker 1: get to what you said about why you think they

469
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Speaker 1: will get a top five pick. I look at it,

470
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be part of the reason that they

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Speaker 1: were able with four wins to pick top three last year.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of teams last season that just

473
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Speaker 1: hung around five hundred. You look at the last place team,

474
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Speaker 1: the AFC North won nine games. In the AFC South

475
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Speaker 1: they won six, NFC North they won seven. There were

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams hanging around five hundred. There's gonna

477
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Speaker 1: be I think there's a lot of teams, Evan that

478
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Speaker 1: had really bad offseasons this year or just didn't do enough.

479
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Speaker 1: And I look at Arizona. That team could be a disaster. Carolina,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that enough. We'll see when Jane Daniels plays.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't, Washington could be in the conversation, they're

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Speaker 1: kind of like the Patriots. The Giants could be a

483
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Speaker 1: real mess. The Titans really didn't do anything.

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Speaker 3: And I thought the Titans did do things. But the

485
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Speaker 3: Titans in a way almost did what the Patriots did

486
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Speaker 3: in like twenty twenty one, and they signed Calvin Ridley,

487
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Speaker 3: they traded for Lagarious Need. It's kind of bizarre in

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Speaker 3: my opinion.

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Speaker 1: First coach, still no quarterback.

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Speaker 3: It's a really bizarre situation to be investing that much

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Speaker 3: money in the roster when you still don't really have

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Speaker 3: answers to those two questions.

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Speaker 1: Right, So I shouldn't say they did nothing, but like

494
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Speaker 1: they could be bad. They could be bad. It's an

495
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Speaker 1: old team too. They have to totally reinvent themselves. They

496
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Speaker 1: lost Eric Henry and the other team all throw in here.

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Speaker 1: This might surprise some people, and I know they have

498
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Speaker 1: to streak and whatever. I'm really curious to see what

499
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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers look like. The Steelers could be a

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Speaker 1: ten win team, they could be a two win team.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'd be surprised either way. But the

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Speaker 1: point being like, there's gonna be a lot. I think

503
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Speaker 1: there are gonna be more teams in contention for those

504
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Speaker 1: top five picks last year, and I have to pull

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Speaker 1: up Montdraftable for a second, not mont Draftable Tankathon. Last year,

506
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Speaker 1: by the time we got to call it, I'll go

507
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Speaker 1: back to Thanksgiving right. Last year, by the time we

508
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Speaker 1: got to Thanksgiving, we kind of knew that it was

509
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Speaker 1: like four or five teams that were gonna be in

510
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Speaker 1: the basement, right it was the Bears slash Panthers, that team,

511
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Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Commanders, and the Cardinals. The Chargers were

512
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Speaker 1: around there, but you knew they had it in them

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Speaker 1: to win some games. Should throw the Giants and that's five,

514
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Speaker 1: but we kind of knew that it was a small group.

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Speaker 1: I think this year, when we get to that point,

516
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be seven or eight teams all vying for

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Speaker 1: maybe not the top pick, but the top four or

518
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Speaker 1: five picks. So if anything knocks them down the draft order,

519
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Speaker 1: like you said, they have a tough schedule. I just

520
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Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some other teams this year that

521
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Speaker 1: are really, really, really bad.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what the league wants in a way, is

523
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Speaker 3: the parody, right both at the top and the bottom,

524
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Speaker 3: where you can look at a team. You mentioned the

525
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers, which is a fine example that you could

526
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Speaker 3: say that could be a ten win team or that

527
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Speaker 3: could be a three win team.

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Speaker 1: Right, I wouldn't be surprised either.

529
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Speaker 3: Way, and in a weird way, that's that's what the

530
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Speaker 3: league is trying to encourage, is that you know, any

531
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Speaker 3: given Sunday, a team can can pull off an upset

532
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Speaker 3: because the talent gap isn't that wide.

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Speaker 1: Patriots beat the Bills last year, right, still.

534
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Speaker 3: One of the most crazy wins of this post Brady era.

535
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Speaker 1: To be honest, I was happy. I was happy.

536
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Speaker 3: There's so many the Patriots post Brady mac Jones era Patriots,

537
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Speaker 3: if you want to call it, that they were so predictable.

538
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Speaker 3: They beat up on the bad teams, and they got

539
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Speaker 3: they lost to the good teams, and it was that

540
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Speaker 3: way for three years except for the Bills game or

541
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Speaker 3: last year?

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Speaker 1: Was it true the whole time? And maybe we didn't

543
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Speaker 1: know that much about the Bills? Anyway? They good, We're

544
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Speaker 1: not doing this again. I got I got one on Twitter.

545
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Speaker 1: If you want, Yeah, go ahead, I don't. I don't

546
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Speaker 1: want to throw off the order where we're going. It's

547
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Speaker 1: a little more specific. This is from Joho on Twitter.

548
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Speaker 3: Is actually the next question I was going to ask too, So.

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Speaker 1: Oh, all right, realistically, ye, Well, there's a friend of

550
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Speaker 1: mine from high school, so I want to get to oh, realistically,

551
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Speaker 1: how long a leash does Brissette have before he gets bench?

552
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Speaker 1: Assuming that he's the Week one starter? Is there any

553
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Speaker 1: chance they ride them all year to ensure a better

554
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Speaker 1: draft pick To the second part of that question, no, yeah,

555
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Speaker 1: I'm with you. They're not tanking. They're not tanking. You can't.

556
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Speaker 3: The one of the things that I don't want to

557
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 3: lose sight about when it comes to how competitive they

558
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: are in twenty twenty four, is fair or not this

559
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Speaker 3: new regime? Elliott wolf Girodmeo. They need to justify firing

560
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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. They need to justify firing Bill. That doesn't

561
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Speaker 3: mean they have to go on and win the Super Bowl.

562
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Speaker 3: But they can't purposely tank the season after firing Bill

563
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Speaker 3: because then the whole world is going to be like,

564
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Speaker 3: why the heck did you get rid of the greatest

565
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Speaker 3: coach of all time to win to win two games?

566
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Speaker 1: Right? That just can't have it.

567
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Speaker 3: Now to the first part of the question, I don't

568
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Speaker 3: necessarily believe that Jacoby Brissett's play on the field is

569
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Speaker 3: going to dictate anything to do with whether he's starting

570
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Speaker 3: games or not, because that's going to all be about

571
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Speaker 3: Drake May's developmental plan. If Drake May is not supposed

572
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Speaker 3: to play until week eighty, they should stick to the

573
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Speaker 3: plan of even if Jacob Brissett's one in seven and

574
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Speaker 3: it is a disaster, you don't deter from the plan

575
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Speaker 3: because of the Because it's a long term plant. We

576
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Speaker 3: talk about it all the time. It's not about September

577
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. It's about the next five to ten

578
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Speaker 3: years of the Patriots organization. Jacoby Brisset could throw five

579
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Speaker 3: picks in week one, and you if you are dead

580
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Speaker 3: set that Drake May is not starting until week eight

581
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Speaker 3: and I'm just using that as an arbitrary number, then

582
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Speaker 3: you still can't go to Drake May in week two

583
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Speaker 3: just because Jacoby Brissett was terrible. You got to stick

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Speaker 3: to the plant.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. You can't panic put him in, right, you can't

586
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Speaker 1: panic put him in. And I'm with you. Whatever the

587
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: plan is, I hope they stick. And there's some flexibility

588
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: obviously within that. You know, maybe week six he's making

589
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: more progress than you thought and whatever. But you can't

590
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Speaker 1: rush him in because the thing I think people lose

591
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Speaker 1: track of in this conversation the most, and I try

592
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Speaker 1: to hammer this point as much as possible. Once you

593
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Speaker 1: make the switch, that is it. Yeah that look look

594
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Speaker 1: at me, Patriots, that is it. You cannot go back.

595
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I should know that as the red light.

596
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Speaker 3: Look like you're the one that taught me all these things,

597
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Speaker 3: and they're.

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Speaker 1: Just well because I was watching the showback from last

599
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Speaker 1: week and I realized I was like staring down the

600
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Speaker 1: barrel of this camera. Once they make the switch, that

601
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: is it. Yeah, Drake May is the guy. We cannot

602
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: go through this again. Of the will they won't they?

603
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: With the quarterback room, it's a slightly different dynamic obviously,

604
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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett and Drake May versus Bailey's Appy and Mac Jones.

605
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Speaker 1: But you've got to be sure it's time to make

606
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Speaker 1: the move. So I don't think And again, John, thanks

607
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Speaker 1: for the question. I don't think we're gonna see Jacoby

608
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Speaker 1: Brissette for the full season, like Drake May is going

609
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Speaker 1: to play this year, but if there's a couple of

610
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: rough weeks early on, but that's what they need to

611
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Speaker 1: do to get Drake May ready, or get the offensive

612
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Speaker 1: line ready, or get whatever ready. Trust me, if if

613
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Speaker 1: the plan works, if the plan ultimately works and they're competitive,

614
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Speaker 1: we're not going to be sitting here in twenty twenty eight.

615
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Evan bemoaning, Oh, do you remember those first few weeks

616
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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. Why couldn't they have just been

617
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Speaker 1: a little more competitive, Like, we're not gonna We're not

618
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Speaker 1: going to do that. Other shows might We're not going

619
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Speaker 1: to do that.

620
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Speaker 3: So I have to go back and figure out if

621
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Speaker 3: it was because of injury or if it was so

622
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Speaker 3: it sounds like it was because he talk about Yeah,

623
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Speaker 3: so Tua in twenty twenty start, he had a string

624
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Speaker 3: of starts and then he missed one game against the Jets.

625
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Speaker 3: But it turns out that it was a thumb injury and.

626
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Speaker 1: He was hurt. That's if he's heard. He's hurt. But

627
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Speaker 1: there was an issue there, remember where So.

628
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Speaker 3: It was the late in games that they that he

629
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Speaker 3: wasn't playing well.

630
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that Flora has kept on.

631
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Speaker 3: I think it happened multiple times that Flora's benched him

632
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Speaker 3: for Ryan Fitzpatrick and you know the second half of

633
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Speaker 3: games that he was playing poorly, but they kept on

634
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Speaker 3: going back to Tua as the starter of the following.

635
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Speaker 1: Week and it became a big issue in the locker room.

636
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Speaker 1: It became a big issue. It was a big story. Yeah,

637
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: because you just don't do that.

638
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it messed with It might have messed with too

639
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: early on. Obviously he's he's played out of it, and

640
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: he's good enough that he's overcame it at this point.

641
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Speaker 1: But early on that was what it would happen. He

642
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: had to go through a new coaching staff, they had

643
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: to totally overhauled the offense. Maybe they needed to do

644
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: that anyway, but okay, also let me know when you

645
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Speaker 1: want to go to the Uh. Yes, I have a

646
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: few more from from I see him on YouTube, guys,

647
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Speaker 1: we'll get to him.

648
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Speaker 3: I wanted to go through these because I asked for him.

649
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Speaker 3: I don't want to ignore them. So Kerrie, who's been

650
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Speaker 3: a long time listener of ours, so thank you for that.

651
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Speaker 3: Other than quarterbacks, what is one player that could make

652
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: the biggest difference for this team if he plays better

653
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: than expected? So I have two answers to this, but

654
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Speaker 3: I'll say one and then I'll let you answer before

655
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: because we might have to be on the same page here.

656
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: Yea. So the most obvious answer to me.

657
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: Is Chuke Sikora four. If Chukes a Kora four plays

658
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: like a starting caliber left tackle, then all of a sudden,

659
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: the offensive line doesn't look as poor and they they

660
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: will start to piece that thing together a little bit better.

661
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: That that really does answer a lot of problems. Now

662
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: there's a lot of skepticism of whether or not he

663
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: can be a starting caliber left tackle. Flipping sides is

664
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Speaker 3: not just the only issue. He also wasn't playing particularly

665
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: well at right tackle for the Pittsburgh in the games

666
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: that he started last year, So he was a replacement

667
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: level right tackle in Pittsburgh at the end, and now

668
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: they're asking him to flip sides and then be a

669
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Speaker 3: serviceable left tackle. So that is a big, big question mark.

670
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Speaker 3: What if whatever you want to call it, But my

671
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: first answer would be would be chokes. If he can

672
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: come out and play a respectable left tackle, then their

673
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: line looks a whole lot better.

674
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Speaker 1: Before I give mine, I guess what your second is.

675
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez, No, okay, So mine is I don't know.

676
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, either of the rookie receivers that was okay,

677
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Speaker 1: So one of I guess I'll go Jalen Polks. He's

678
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: a higher traffick. But like, if either of these guys

679
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: can be have like a Pukin and Kua type of season, right,

680
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: if either of these guys become a coverage dictator, it

681
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: just opens everything else. And look, they'll still need to

682
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: get it blocked. They'll still absolutely need to get it blocked,

683
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: and that will be an issue. But in a core

684
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: force probably better answer to this question. But I would say,

685
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: if either of those rookie receivers can really emerge, it's

686
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Speaker 1: not just being like nothing against Pop Douglas, but what

687
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: Pop Douglas did last year, As much as we give

688
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: him credit for his rookie season, it was a good

689
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: rookie season. The hope is he continues to get better.

690
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: From there, and that's not his ceiling. I'm talking about

691
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: if one of these guys can go above and beyond it,

692
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Speaker 1: not just have a good rookie season, but be one

693
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Speaker 1: of the best receivers in football as a rookie, it

694
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: would open up a lot. Absolutely.

695
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Speaker 3: It's the same old conversation we've had in the past

696
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: about this, where you can have deficiencies on offense, right,

697
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: but you also have to have strains of course, and

698
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: it's from a personnel standpoint, taking coaching out of it

699
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: for a second, it's can you have quarterback play?

700
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Speaker 1: Can you block it? And do you have receivers.

701
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Speaker 3: I've always heard that you can do it with two

702
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: out of three, Yeah, if you have a great quarterback,

703
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: I think you'd do with two.

704
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: Out of three is no, Actually that's not true.

705
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Speaker 3: Never mind continue if you have a great quarterback, yeah,

706
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 3: and you have great receivers. You're the Cincinnati Bengals of

707
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago and now kind of Well,

708
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: their line is better now, but the Bengals team that

709
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: made the Super Bowl had elite quarterback play, an elite

710
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: receiver play, and not allowed them to overcome a bad

711
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: offensive line.

712
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: Understating it going all the.

713
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: Way basically to the fourth quarter of a Super Bowl

714
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 3: with a chance to win in an Aaron Donald quarterback

715
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: hit away from potentially a game winning drive in the

716
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl because you have Joe Burr, Jamar Chase T Higgins,

717
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: Tyler Boyd at the time was still playing well, so

718
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 3: you had these options. I saw something from I think

719
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: it was Mena Kimes about the Green Bay Packers, and

720
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: she was talking about their receiving corps and how they

721
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: don't necessarily have a number one, but they have three

722
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 3: or four guys because a lot of love for Datavian Wicks.

723
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Speaker 3: I think I'm saying that right, a lot of love

724
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Speaker 3: for Wicks. So you have Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, Jayden

725
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: Reid is their big three. Then you have Wicks, and

726
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: they also have some young tight ends to you muskgrave Craft, right,

727
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: you know those guys as well. But her point was

728
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: that they've hit on the plan that we all probably

729
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: assumed is what Belichick was trying to go after the

730
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: last couple of years of we're not gonna have a

731
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Speaker 3: number one guy, but we're gonna have three or four

732
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: guys on the field all at the same time that

733
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: can all make plays and then it's you know, right,

734
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 3: you're just spreading the ball around at that point. Currently,

735
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 3: and this could definitely change in the future. Maybe Elliott

736
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: Wolf next off season takes a bigger swing at this

737
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: and goes out and gets a T Higgins, a Brandon Aiyuka, whoever.

738
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Speaker 1: But currently the.

739
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: Patriots are building their receiver receiver room a lot like

740
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: Choker the Green Bay Packers, where if it's Jalen Polk,

741
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: jayvon Baker, Kendrick Bourne, Pop Douglas is a lot like Watson, Dobbs,

742
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: Reid and Wicks. Right now, it works there in Green

743
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 3: Bay because Jordan Love is awesome, right and the coach

744
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: is awesome in terms of offensive plane calling.

745
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, But that's why it works. Imagine how much

746
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: more hawseme it would be if they had DeVante Adams

747
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: and you can have all those guys and DeVante Adams,

748
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: which is why I'd say, like, I don't know, there's

749
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: some ewing theory to it, but like at a certain point,

750
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of these teams that do

751
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: the wide receiver like the wide receiver and aggregate. At

752
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: a certain point, they just run into a team that

753
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: has a loaded secondary and they can cover him across

754
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: the board you need Eventually, you're gonna need that one guy,

755
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, for a year two Can you get by

756
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: on that, Sure, But if you're really trying to be

757
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, win a Super Bowl, be contender, I think

758
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: you need that guy. Even the Chiefs people point to

759
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Well, they have Travis Kelce. So if you're

760
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: gonna have that kind of wide receiver room and truly

761
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: be contender, you'd better have the best the second best

762
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: tight end in the league currently in the league currently. Yeah,

763
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: well he's the best Titan currently block he's the best

764
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: title in the league. George Kittle Yeah, I know, I'm

765
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: just trying to start stuff. George Kittles is declined a

766
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: little bit. Yes, yeah, so I agree with you. I

767
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: mean it's the same. It's the same as the Patriots

768
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: people point to, Oh, even when Edelman got hurt, they

769
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: were still able to throw the ball. They didn't have

770
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: a true number one receiver, No, but they had Rob Gronkowski. Yeah,

771
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: so if you're gonna go get Rob Gronkowski, you can

772
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: sell me on that wide receiver room. Like Jaane Bell,

773
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's quite that guy.

774
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you that the Packers, the model that

775
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: the Packers are in right now, the way that they're

776
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: structured right now, probably has a little bit of a

777
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: ceiling to it. Yeah, that isn't necessarily a super Bowl winner,

778
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: And that's fine because Jordan Love really takes another even

779
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: another step into MVP caliber territory where he can carry them.

780
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: But and and right now, which she might because well,

781
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: good player. The timeline is a little different because he

782
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: obviously like they didn't play him on his rookie contract.

783
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: But as you're getting going with the rebuild year one,

784
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: year two, like, that's fine. If you're just gonna be

785
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: a competitive team and you're still getting like you're not

786
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: gonna get all the pieces at once, that's fine. I

787
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: just hope they don't close the door. How many times

788
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: haven't I talked about DK metcalf or about we talked

789
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: about Amari Cooper. I think last week now there's rumors

790
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: that CD Lamb they want added Dallas. I hope the

791
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: door isn't closed on that move. I just hope they

792
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: don't outright close the door on adding a gun like that,

793
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: because if you have the wide receiver by aggregate room,

794
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: if you have the room of a bunch of really

795
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: good number twos and then you add a number one. Well,

796
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: now you're a top five offense in football on paper. Yeah,

797
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't. Assuming you have the quarterback, assuming Drake networks.

798
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah, I believe they would probably still go after

799
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: it in terms of that top receiver, just because they

800
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: went after Calvin Ridley. So I don't think that Elliott

801
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: Wolf is operating on the same level of green Bay.

802
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: Where the joke is in green Bay as always, you know,

803
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: the first couple of days of free agency doesn't exist

804
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: in green Bay. Free agency in green Bay is the draft,

805
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: right like that, they are a draft developed ta they

806
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: have been for one hundred years. They're not going to

807
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: change their ways. They're not going to go out and

808
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: make a Brandon Nayik trade in green Bay's that's just

809
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: not happening. But Elliot Wolf has shown with the Calvin

810
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: Ridley sweepstakes, with the pursuit of Calvin Ridley, that they

811
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 3: would pay twenty twenty five million dollars to a receiver.

812
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: Sure, so it's.

813
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 3: Maybe that is where he years left where his dad

814
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 3: would have went.

815
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Right.

816
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: We'll see, they got a close We'll see if it happens. Yeah,

817
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: but on paper, it just seeing how people talk about

818
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: the Packers receiving corps and then looking at the Patriots

819
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: receiver room. That really is the best case scenario is

820
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: that it turns into a situation like green Bay has currently.

821
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: The best case scenarios, it turns into situation that green

822
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: Bay had five years go with Devontae Adams.

823
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: Well, I suppose, but that's asking a lot. The best

824
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: case scenario is that I think, because I expecting jalen

825
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: Ja von Baker to be DeVante Adams is expecting a

826
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: ton well out of out of it, not only you know,

827
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: just in every way.

828
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Speaker 1: Sure, no, obviously, but I guess for this year that's

829
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Speaker 1: the best case scenario. Is that what you're saying for

830
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, Okay, e, They're not you know,

831
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams.

832
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: You know, those guys don't just grow on trees. So

833
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and say that that

834
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: anybody is gonna just become DeVante.

835
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: They become available quite a bit.

836
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Speaker 3: Oh in terms of like them getting a player like that. Sure,

837
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: I'm just saying you, on paper, the room that they

838
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 3: have right now, it's probably best case scenario that it's

839
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: it shooks like something like what the Packers that put

840
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: together right there? That's okay, a couple more offense questions

841
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 3: and then we'll flip it over to defense. Alex close Closs, Sorry,

842
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: is uh Calvin Anderson asks? Is Calvin Anderson a dark

843
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: horse to start at left tackle? Perfectly phrased, He's not.

844
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 3: Is it a strong possibility?

845
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: No? Is he a dark horse? Yeah?

846
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: Is he a guy that could come out of the woodwork?

847
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: Yes.

848
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: I The good thing about Calvin Anderson to me is that,

849
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: and I know Chris Price from the Globe reported on

850
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 3: the whole story in the off season, just an absolutely

851
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: ridiculously awful health situation that he had last year. I mean,

852
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: really genuinely feel for him that he went through that,

853
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: and you reading the story, you could not, on any

854
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: level expect him to play respectable football after a situation

855
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: like that.

856
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: No chance.

857
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: So could they in year two of the Calvin Anderson

858
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: experience get the guy they thought they were signing from

859
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: Denver last offseason, but it just because of the situation

860
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: with his health, it didn't happen in year one. Yeah,

861
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: I think that's definitely in play. And there's also the

862
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: circumstance of what kind of scheme they want to run.

863
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: And we've talked about this a ton with the outside

864
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 3: zone and you know, the bootlegs and the wide zone

865
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: actions and the stretch the field horizontally and all, oh

866
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: that kind of crap. He is an athletic tackle. He

867
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: was an athletic tackle on paper, just in terms of

868
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 3: his combine measurements and stuff like that from a few

869
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: years ago. And he shows decent lateral movement and athletic

870
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: ability on film when he's healthy. So all those things

871
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: do add up to him being a decent fit in

872
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: what they're trying to do. Is there a world where

873
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: he put pushes Chuksa Kora for in camp to be

874
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: the left tackle? I do think that there is a

875
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 3: a world. Do I what percentage chance do I put

876
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: on it? It's probably still pretty low. But if you

877
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: want to call him a dark horse candidate to make

878
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: a push to for a starting role this summer, I'm

879
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: not gonna be mad at that that.

880
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I

881
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: I'd even go a little stronger in that, just because

882
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: who's their backup left tackle right now? Who's the next

883
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: guy if they're gonna play Kayden Wallace on the right side,

884
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: which is what we saw.

885
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: Spray very good chance and next chance tackle for sure,

886
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 3: that's a much higher percentage chance.

887
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: Well, so I guess i'd I don't know about week one.

888
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. They seem pretty stuck on Chukes the

889
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Corps four and seeing that thing through at least to

890
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: the start of the season. I would not be surprised

891
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: if we get a couple of games of Calvin Anderson

892
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: starting a left tackle for this team at some point

893
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: during the season. Again, don't think it's gonna be week one. Yeah,

894
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: you know, around October November. If it's not going well

895
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: with Chukes the Corps four, I feel like he's probably

896
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: the next guy up. So yeah, I absolutely think Calvin

897
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: Anderson's starting games at left tackles in play.

898
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that, all right, when we are

899
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: to defense for a little bit, and then we'll get

900
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: to the questions in the chat and the emails.

901
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, and I I.

902
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: Haven't been monitoring the phones because I've been looking at

903
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: my phone, so we do have a couple of phone

904
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 3: calls as well, So I'll get to all you guys

905
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: in the second I promise phones have been waiting for

906
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: a while. So let's actually take the phones because we've

907
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: been waiting for a while here, all right, Uh, Patty's

908
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: anach go on, what's up?

909
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: Patty?

910
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: What's up?

911
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: Guys?

912
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: Part of the noise. But I'm glad you guys are

913
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 4: just talking about wide receivers because I got to say,

914
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: I love I love Alex's idea, but just hear me

915
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: out too, like I kind of want to see this

916
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: group these guys compete in training camp and just, you know,

917
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: let the best five or six guys that are going

918
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: to make the roster make the roster this year and

919
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 4: stick with it, because I don't think if you trade

920
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: for a Brandon Ayuk or te Higgins. I mean, those

921
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 4: guys are good, but are they really like are they alphas?

922
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 4: Are they elites? Are they number one? I don't know,

923
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: Like you guys have said too, like Ayuk has been,

924
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: He's probably going to be their number two option this

925
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 4: year out of everybody. You know, he'll be behind Christian McCaffrey.

926
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 4: But for the most part, he's been the number four

927
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: guy behind it, you know him Kittle and Debo for

928
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: his whole career. But if there is a chance that

929
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: they could get dk Metcalf. I mean that guy, we

930
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: know he's in alpha, and I mean if the way

931
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: I see the season play out, I can kind of

932
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 4: see a plan out the way Drew's rookie year was

933
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 4: where you know, hopefully May wins the starting job out

934
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 4: of camp. They tread water for about half the season,

935
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: but the second half they come on. They're competitive. He

936
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: looks like he's taking a good step forward in his

937
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 4: rookie year, and then next year you try and get

938
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: the best out of him by getting that alpha. And

939
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 4: you know, hopefully those young guys, the two guys that

940
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: they drafted and Pop all grow together with them. And

941
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: I love Born like I. I hope he's stixed, fixed around.

942
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: I hope he's healthy this year, and I hope they

943
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 4: keep that core going forward and add that alpha guy.

944
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 4: That's all I got. You guys are the friggin' best

945
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: you know with and that's see you next week.

946
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: Thanks, Patty, appreciate that. You know. I learned something about

947
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Agaua the other day, Patty from Aga Okay, do you

948
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: know they have the lowest zip code in the country,

949
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: one to one. If you were to list all the

950
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: zip codes numerically in the entire country. Just like in

951
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: terms of adding the numbers up. No, in terms of

952
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: like if you were to put them in order, Oh, okay,

953
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: like counting right. I don't know why I thought add

954
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: the numbers. Yeah, well I guess that's probably yeah, but

955
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: one one it's the first. It would be the first

956
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: zip codes the lowest number. I like that. Uh.

957
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 3: His his questioner is point. I tend to agree with

958
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: what he's saying that I would like to see the

959
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: organic growth, the growth will within first before we jump

960
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 3: to trading draft cap significant draft capital for Brandon Nayuk

961
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 3: or T Higgins. I'm not necessarily with him in terms

962
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: of him underrating Brandon Nayuk. I think brand Nyuk is

963
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: a hell of a football player. Yeah, But I feel

964
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: similarly about T Higgins though in terms of I'm not

965
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: one hundred percent sure that T Higgins is a true alpha.

966
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: It is like a true dude because his skill set

967
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: is to me, is more. There's fewer boxes that he

968
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: checks in terms of what he can do on the

969
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: football field. It's a it's more I'm trying to look

970
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: for the right word, but it's Brandon Nyuk does a

971
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: bunch of things well, whereas.

972
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: Specialized specialized, he is probably the best word for it.

973
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: T Higgins is a big bodied perimeter receiver. We can

974
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: argue about it. If he's played X Z whatever in Cincinnati.

975
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: He plays on the outside like eighty one percent of

976
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: the time. He is a big body, jump ball receiver.

977
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: He is a better version, much better version than Patriots

978
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 3: version of Devonte Parker, but like he's a better version

979
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: of like Dolphins Devonte Parker right. Whereas with Brandon ay Yuke,

980
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 3: he is one of the best route runners in the NFL.

981
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: He's good with the ball in his hands. He is

982
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: a very, very good player. And what we've seen with

983
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine ers over the last couple

984
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: of years, especially last year, is that as great. And

985
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: take McCaffrey out of it for a second, because he's

986
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: a running back. Just talking about their pass catchers at

987
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: receiver and tight end McCaffrey catch, Come on, I know,

988
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, like, in terms of their receiver room,

989
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayyuke's ability to just win on routes without the

990
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan of it all, without needing all the bells

991
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: and whistles like Deebo Samuel. It needs to be schemed

992
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 3: open right, Deebo. Samuel needs help in order to be

993
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: used properly and utilizing the right places on the field.

994
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: Brandon Nyuk is one of those guys that can just

995
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: line up across from somebody and just win on the

996
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: route that elevated the forty nine ers offense last year

997
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: to almost a different level at times because they finally

998
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: had like that coverage beater that just it's man coverage,

999
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: third down on the outside, Brandon, and you can win

1000
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: the route, Yeah, just by himself, without Kyle Shanahan having

1001
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 3: to sequence together, play action or move Debo around, or

1002
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: you know, whatever the case may be. So's a He's

1003
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: a very very good player. I think Brandon Nyuk is

1004
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: probably a top ten receiver in the NFL today. So

1005
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: I would trade. That's the trade, I guess is a

1006
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: long way winded way of saying this. That's a trade

1007
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: that I don't think the Patriots can pass up being

1008
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: involved in that market. Like, as a team that's starving

1009
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: for offensive firepower and offensive talent, you can't simply pass

1010
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 3: on an opportunity to trade for Brandon.

1011
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: I you because you want to see the kids play.

1012
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: You can't tell. So and and maybe this's war I'm

1013
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: talking out of both sides of my mouth, but just

1014
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: to be clear, like because I just said that whole thing,

1015
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: I hope they add the true number one. I hope

1016
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: they have the coverage dictator. I don't. I'm actually with

1017
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: Patty in that let's let's see what you have in

1018
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: the room. Let's also not jump in and make that

1019
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: big investment before we're before we are sure Drake may

1020
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: is worth making the big investment. Let's see him for

1021
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: a year and make sure that he's worth, you know,

1022
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: adding the pieces to I said this on the show

1023
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: last night, and this is it's a little bit of

1024
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: a dense take, so you just kind of have to

1025
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: hang with me here. But and I part of this

1026
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: I've said before, I do not think it is difficult

1027
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: to find an opportunity to add a coverage dictating receiver.

1028
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: Because as much as we we talk about brand and Ayu,

1029
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: we did this last year with DeAndre Hopkins, and now

1030
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: that Brandon Ayuk's available, Marii Cooper might be be available,

1031
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: Seedee Lamb might be right. Like every time we think

1032
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: it's the last guy, there's three more that suddenly want

1033
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: new contracts or you aren't getting paid or whatever. So

1034
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't think you might pass on brand and Ayuk specifically.

1035
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: I think there're gonna be other chances to get this

1036
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: kind of player. Maybe not with the trade deadline, but

1037
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: you know next offseason, right, and it's it's gonna cost

1038
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: you something to get this guy. That's the reap both

1039
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: in terms of money and draft capitol because they're not

1040
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: in for agency. You got a trade for him. But

1041
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: I like you can do that. The Patriots, assuming Drake

1042
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: May looks decent this year, are going to have the

1043
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: flexibility to trade a second round pick and then give,

1044
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, high twenties millions of dollars a year to

1045
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: an elite wide receiver. They are going, assuming Drake May hits,

1046
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: they will be in a position to do that at

1047
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: some point. This is what I think the real challenge

1048
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: is in adding an elite receiver. You have to thread

1049
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: the needle and know when is the time to strike.

1050
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: You don't want to go too early and blow assets

1051
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: you can't afford to blow, or you don't want to

1052
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: go too early just because there's a shiny new toy

1053
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: who maybe isn't a great fit for what you want

1054
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: to do. I know it's a fit. I'm just saying

1055
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: like in general here, but you also don't want to

1056
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: be too passive and say, oh, you know, yeah, so

1057
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: and so he's event they'll be available to be available,

1058
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: and then you wait too long and now maybe the

1059
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: windows closed, you're not gonna have the quarterback on the

1060
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: rookie contract to pay them, or now maybe your team's

1061
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: a little too good, that those draft picks aren't worth

1062
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: as much as they were. That to me is the

1063
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: real challenge. And I'm you know, people are probably waiting

1064
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: for me to give the answer of exactly when to

1065
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: do it. I wish I could sit here and tell

1066
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: you that on March seventeenth, twenty twenty five, I'll use

1067
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: my birthday. That's not my Birthday'm not gonna use my

1068
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: birthday March seventeenth, twenty twenty as forget your own. No,

1069
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: I didn't. I was like, I should use my birthday

1070
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: in as I don't want to give my birthday on

1071
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 1: the air. I why would I. On March seventeenth, twenty

1072
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: twenty five, at ten thirty one, am Evan the Patriots

1073
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: should trade a second round pick, a fourth round pick

1074
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: and a future second for TK Metcalf. I wish I

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Speaker 1: could sit here and give you, like the exact timeline.

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 3: You guys are making me too excited about DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna you can get mad at me

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Speaker 1: for this one. He doesn't come here. I've deserved that.

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Speaker 1: But the point is that's the real challenge, Yeah, is

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Speaker 1: threading the needle and knowing when I still think it's

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Speaker 1: too early. I still think it's too early. Not just

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Speaker 1: I want to see the receivers they have, that's part

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Speaker 1: of it. I want to see Drake May just a

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Speaker 1: developmental Plannet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on this because we have examples

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Speaker 3: that we can pull from the past.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the Houston Texans, yeap, are what we all are

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Speaker 3: hoping the Patriots will be. Absolutely the Houston Texans did

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Speaker 3: what Patti said to do. They played Tank Dell, they

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Speaker 3: played Nico Collins, they obviously played c J. S Drowd

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Speaker 3: and they noticed recognized, wow, this this is a young

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Speaker 3: budding corp.

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Speaker 1: We have something.

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Speaker 3: We have something here, mostly CJ. Strowd, but Tank Dell

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Speaker 3: was one of the best rookie receivers in the league

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Speaker 3: before he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins had.

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Speaker 3: A career year with a quarterback that could actually throw

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Speaker 3: them the ball, and all of a sudden you look

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Speaker 3: then to Dalton Schultz. Yeah yeah, all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: you look at that receiving corps and everybody's popping. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: playing well. So then this offseason, what does Nick Casario do.

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Speaker 3: He says, well, let's supplement it, let's add on right,

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Speaker 3: and they trade for Stefan Dick. So they did it

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Speaker 3: in one year. That is an expedited rebuild process of

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Speaker 3: holy crap, we just hit on a franchise quarterback with

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Speaker 3: the second overall pick. We don't necessarily need to wait

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Speaker 3: three years to make this track. The other option is

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Speaker 3: what the Buffalo Bills did with your boys, Stefon Diggs.

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Speaker 3: They waited until in between year two and year three

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Speaker 3: with Josh Allen because it took two years for Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen to truly emerge.

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Speaker 1: Prove he's worth the investment developed. Year one for Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen was not very good. Bad.

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Speaker 3: Year two was better. I think it was right. It

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Speaker 3: was year two and between year two and year three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he still wasn't good Year two either. He

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Speaker 1: was like just good enough that the example I used it,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the Eagles make a lot more

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Speaker 1: sense because Jalen Hurts kind of started proving himself.

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Speaker 3: The difficult part about the Eagles is that Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 3: was not drafted to be the guy necessarily, so it's

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Speaker 3: a little bit different just in terms of that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's good because we can use the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins too. Right. They went out and got Tyreek Kill

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Speaker 1: for two a year, year three.

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Speaker 3: Year three they traded for Diggs. Right, Yeah, Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: drafted in eighteen. Digs got to the Bills in twenty twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that in between year two and year three, that

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Speaker 3: offseason is when they made the trade. So they I

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Speaker 3: recognized in year two of Josh Allen, he's on this

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Speaker 3: upward trajectory. If we get him a number one receiver

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Speaker 3: like Stefan Diggs, that could take him to the next

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Speaker 3: level and put him over the top. If you ask me,

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Speaker 3: the most likely scenario for the Patriots is probably the

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Speaker 3: Bills situation, just because I don't know if Drake may

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Speaker 3: is gonna play as much or be as polished as c. J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud was out of the gate. He probably has more

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Speaker 3: of Josh Allen in him than C. J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 3: But with that being said, those are the two examples.

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Speaker 3: One was after year one. One was after year two

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00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: for the quarterback, and they waited until they saw what

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Speaker 3: they had with the QB. They saw what they had

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Speaker 3: at the pieces within or we truly as Tefon Diggs

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Speaker 3: or well in both cases as Stefan Digs away from

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00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: being a Super Bowl contender, they didn't get there different

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Speaker 3: at the same time. So that's definitely a possibility that

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00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: this year they play the kids. They let the young guys,

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Speaker 3: you know, the first just to you know, the guys

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00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: from the last two draft classes. I think, you know,

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00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: we forget a little bit that Pop Douglas is also

1155
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 3: in this. You know, Pop Douglas is also here as

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00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: a year or two guy. And they see what they

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00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: have going into the off season and maybe it is

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00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 3: the time to pull the big trade for Brandon Aiyuk

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00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 3: or sign a T. Higgins in free agency or what

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00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: have you, or maybe it's the next off season and

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Speaker 3: that's becomes DK metcalf right, you know, in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: six instead of twenty twenty five. So I'm with you both.

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Speaker 3: I feel like there's there's a lot of a lot

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Speaker 3: of layers to it. When exactly that trade is is

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00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 3: gonna make the most sense, It's probably not this year.

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Speaker 3: It's just probably not.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not. And again, like, is that Brandon you

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Speaker 1: a good player? Yes, I You'll be able to get

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Speaker 1: comparable players down the road. You'll have other chances. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Todd is in North Carolina? What's up Todd? All right?

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Speaker 3: You can call back Todd at we left them on

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Speaker 3: home for a little while. Call back and we'll get

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Speaker 3: you on Todd. Go back to Twitter, and then we'll

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Speaker 3: get into the I'm sorry, I'm never gonna call it X.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not. It's gonna be Twitter. Sorry, Elon. All right,

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Speaker 3: a couple more questions here and then we'll get to

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Speaker 3: what's going on in the chat. So this is I

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Speaker 3: don't know what his actual name is, it's just a

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Speaker 3: Twitter handle. So I'm not gonna read out loud because

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Speaker 3: it's not safe for work.

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Speaker 1: Alex, it's not nice.

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Speaker 3: Do you anticipate Keon White ever becoming a big sack guy, like,

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00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: you know, numbers wise, like a Matthew Judon, you know six,

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Speaker 3: you know, ten plus sacks? A year type of player.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, no, you know, I'm not the highest

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Speaker 3: on Keon White, So maybe it's a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a bias on my part, but I feel like he's

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Speaker 3: definitely going to be more disruptor in his NFL career

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Speaker 3: pressure numbers and disruption overall chaos than he is going

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Speaker 3: to ever be like a finisher that's going to put

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Speaker 3: up a fifteen sax season. I just don't necessarily see

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Speaker 3: that those elements to the skill, the closing speed, that

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Speaker 3: type of stuff that usually lends itself to being a

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Speaker 3: double digit sack guy. But that doesn't mean he can't

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Speaker 3: be an effective player. I just I've always said the

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Speaker 3: same thing about Keon White that I still feel like

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Speaker 3: the best comp from Patriots pass because it's always easy

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Speaker 3: to just pull from guys from the past. Is like

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Speaker 3: a Trey Flowers, who I don't think ever had or

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Speaker 3: maybe he did flirt with like ten sacks, but it

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Speaker 3: was never He was never like a Matthew Judah who

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Speaker 3: was putting up fifteen, you know, sixteen sacks in the season.

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Speaker 3: I want to say that that Trey Flowers is high

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Speaker 3: with the Patriots is like eight or nine.

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Speaker 1: I'd look his Pro Football Reference pages down here we go,

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Speaker 1: it's seven and a half in twenty eighteen. Yeah, he had,

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Speaker 1: but he was consistent he had. I mean, he missed

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Speaker 1: his first year already towards ACL seven six and a half,

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Speaker 1: seven and a half seven.

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Speaker 3: So if you look at his quarterback pressures, like on PFF,

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Speaker 3: you know, quarterback hits hurries, he was always higher on those.

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Speaker 3: Like I believe his breakout year was it was at

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Speaker 3: seventeen or eighteen with the Patriots. I always forget whichever year.

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Speaker 3: Whichever year that.

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Speaker 1: Was sixteen, that long ago, he hits seven sacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, se so he had seven sacks and but he

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Speaker 3: had like something like sixty five quarterback pressures. You know,

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Speaker 3: it was high amongst the edge defenders in the league.

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Speaker 3: So my point being is that I think Kean White

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Speaker 3: could could be a pressure's guy, but not necessarily a

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Speaker 3: sack guy. I don't necessarily see him being a double

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Speaker 3: digit sack guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was honestly gonna go with a current Patriot

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Speaker 1: and Dietrich Wise, and I think he'll be a little

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Speaker 1: more disruptive than that. But that kind of player, the

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Speaker 1: guy that creates sacks more than gets them himself, if

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Like he we we saw Keon White

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Speaker 1: to a slot early last year and then he had

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Speaker 1: that cancutch and I think it kind of threw him

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Speaker 1: off a little bit. Yeah, we've seen, we saw him.

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Speaker 1: He was able to, you know, force the quarterback out

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Speaker 1: of the pocket and get to the quarterback and be

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Speaker 1: the first one there and force him off his spot.

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Speaker 1: And that's where you hope a guy like Matthew Judon

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Speaker 1: or whoever takes over that spot next, because even if

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Speaker 1: Judeon's here this year, I mean he's you hope Keon

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Speaker 1: White's here long beyond Matthew judah On that the guy

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Speaker 1: on the other side is kind of cleaning up, especially

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna play this more aggressive brand defense. So

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Speaker 1: I think On White's more of an disruptor than anything else.

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01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: And that may not always show up in the in

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: the regular box score. But like you said, pressures, so

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Speaker 1: they have. I just pulled it up. In twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: Trey Flowers had seventy eight pressures. Yeah, I knew it

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Speaker 1: was high. I was even low ball. He had seventy

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Speaker 1: seven and seventeen and seventy eight and eighteen. So that's

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Speaker 1: that's high. That's among top ten, top fifteen in the

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Speaker 1: league at the position. So not at seven and a

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Speaker 1: half sacks or seven sacks, but seventy eight pressures. Is

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Speaker 1: that's causing a lot of your stress. Right, It might

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Speaker 1: not be showing up with the stat sheet, but you're

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Speaker 1: And this was a big This will be an interesting

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Speaker 1: one actually because a big part of Bill Belichick's philosophy

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Speaker 1: was a throwaway is as good as a sack. Yeah,

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01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: and you know, don't risk getting a penalty or whatever

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Speaker 1: losing contain the quarterback throw the ball, throws the ball away,

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01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: the defense won to play. Is that going to continue

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Speaker 1: with this new more aggressive to Marcus Covington defense, that'll

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see. But they're in this system generally,

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Speaker 1: if you could just get the quarterback off his spot

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Speaker 1: and aggravate them, you've done your job. And that is

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Speaker 1: I think the kind of player Key on White projects debate.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go a little nerd on you for

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Speaker 3: a second. So this has been an age old debate

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Speaker 3: between the news sacks versus pressures and our sacks overrated

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Speaker 3: just in terms of their impact, but not necessarily that

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Speaker 3: you can't get no pressure we're just saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: how much does a pressure? How much weighted more is

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Speaker 3: a sack than a pressure? Right in terms of its

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Speaker 3: impact on the game.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'd rather the offense be losing yards.

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Speaker 3: So personally, here's the here's the argument on the other side,

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Speaker 3: the argument for the nerd side of things. Of and

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01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 3: let me be clear, we and I say we as

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01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: in the cards, still believe a sack is more impactful

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Speaker 3: than a pressure.

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Speaker 1: Good Okay, no one's saying that it isn't.

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01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 3: But for now, the reason why pressure metrics have become

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Speaker 3: more popular, the biggest reason, I would say, is that

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Speaker 3: what we see statistically is that when the ball under

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01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: pressure is put in the air, you're more likely to

1282
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Speaker 3: cause a turnover, right, like an interception. Obviously, so pressures

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01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: cause disruption. Disruption calls causes turnovers. So therefore, if you

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01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 3: get the ball in play, as a base baseball term,

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01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 3: if you put the ball in play, but you're under

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01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: pressure when you put the ball in play, not only

1287
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 3: are you more likely to turn the ball over, you're

1288
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 3: also more likely to have a catastrophic turnover like a

1289
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 3: pick six.

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01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: Right.

1291
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: So that's the biggest thing that makes pressures when you

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01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: sack somebody and yes there are strip.

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01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: That's gonna say, boy, the nerds are gonna lose it

1294
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: when they learn about strip sacks. Strip sacks as a whole.

1295
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: You know that.

1296
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 3: That's why a sack is still more important, right than

1297
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 3: a pressure is because strip sacks exists. But when you

1298
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 3: just take a sack, then you are looking at yes

1299
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 3: it's a negative yardage, but you're not causing a turnover.

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01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: So this is where I get it. This is where

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01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: I have my problem with the nerds, because in theory,

1302
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: if you put it out on a spreadsheet, that all

1303
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yes, what happens when you're playing Patrick Mahomes

1304
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: who's immune to pressure and you have to get him

1305
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: to the ground to end the play. I would rather

1306
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: just give me, give me a win, give me a

1307
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: win on the play, sack the quarterback, loss, the yards

1308
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: all that. Now, there's certain and there's certain quarterbacks you

1309
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: want to play differently, some quarterbacks, you know, we talked

1310
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: about this with Lamar Jackson, where you have to be

1311
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: really careful and going all out for the sack isn't

1312
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: necessarily the best thing because if he braks contained, goodbye, right,

1313
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: So I just think to generally, and we don't need

1314
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: to do the whole nerds versus whatever thing. But like,

1315
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: I just think generalizing it like that is so it's

1316
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: so tough because the situation matters well, except the nerds

1317
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: in baseball don't want the ball put in play. Well,

1318
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense. No, the three truer outcomes

1319
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: home run this see walk.

1320
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 3: Not because it is a baseball show and my depth

1321
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: of knowledge of baseball nerdom is not nearly as.

1322
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: High as well, that's like an og nerdom.

1323
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: That is crazy to me, because the whole idea of

1324
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: it in football is that putting the ball in play,

1325
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: to use that term again, there are more likely outcomes

1326
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: that mistakes could happen with the ball in play. Like

1327
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 3: in baseball. If you put the ball in play there, yes,

1328
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: you could ground out to the shortstop, but the shortstop

1329
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 3: could also throw it ten feet over the first baseman's head,

1330
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 3: whereas if you strike out you have no chance of

1331
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: that happen.

1332
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: The difference is and I get we're not a baseball show,

1333
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: but just to educate.

1334
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: Honestly, the baseball nerd. This is the problem with the

1335
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 3: baseball nerds. They're bad at nerding. They don't know what

1336
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: they want.

1337
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: Well, but here's here's the way they look at it.

1338
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: If you get a single, great, yeah, but the odds

1339
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 1: of somebody driving you in from first are incredibly low

1340
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: because now you need another hit. And then they hate

1341
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: small ball, they hate moving a guy over. So their

1342
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: philosophy is swing for the fences because either you're gonna

1343
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: strike out whatever, you're probably gonna get out anyway, if

1344
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: you put the ball in play, right, seventy five percent

1345
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: of the time balls couldn't play, it's an out. If

1346
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna swing for the fence that you're gonna strike

1347
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: out anyway, you're gonna hit a home run, so you score.

1348
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: They talk about three true outcomes, or you walk because

1349
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: more pitchers throw more balls than strikes. And then I

1350
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: guess the consolation is, well, if you swing for the fences,

1351
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: you make contact, you don't hit them run, maybe you

1352
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: get a double, and now it's easier to drive you in.

1353
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: They have zero interest in singles. And on the flip side,

1354
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: the pitching nerds don't want the ball in play either,

1355
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: because if you're not putting the ball in play, you

1356
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: know what you get to do. You get to build

1357
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: a whole lineup of sluggers, and it doesn't matter what

1358
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: positions they play, because if the pitchers pitching not to contact,

1359
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: they never have to field. It's just to me, that

1360
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: is bad nerding. Well it does. Those are your people,

1361
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't.

1362
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: No, no, no, the baseball nerds are on their hold on

1363
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 3: a whole different Those are those are the founding fathers.

1364
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: No, those are your And by the founding fathers, you

1365
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: mean that they have it all. Those are your forefathers, Evan. No,

1366
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: they don't make any sense. Bill James, this is Bill

1367
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: James is the founder of all of this.

1368
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 3: How you would prefer a strikeout over putting the ball

1369
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 3: in play in baseball is just logically just makes no sense.

1370
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: Like you're guaranteed and out with a strikeout, You're not

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01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: guaranteed to get out if you put the ball on.

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01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: Well, I would say, you sack the quarterback. You're guaranteed

1373
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: a loss. Yes, you let him put the ball in

1374
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: the air. Anything still possible. So I'll take the sack

1375
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: for the same logic you just used.

1376
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: You're you're you're not wrong, and I thankfully the football

1377
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 3: nerds recognize that pressure and causing disruption on the quarterback.

1378
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 3: We have obviously data that directly tells you that any

1379
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 3: quarterback from Patrick Mahomes to Tom Brady to Mac Jones

1380
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 3: is worse under pressure than with no pressure in a

1381
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: clean pocket. Yeah, duh right, But it's not just duh like.

1382
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 3: It is a big, big gap. Like we're talking about

1383
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 3: the league average passer rating from a clean pocket being

1384
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 3: like high nineties versus the league average passer rating while

1385
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 3: under pressure being in like the fifties or the low sixties. Right,

1386
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 3: We're talking about a huge, huge gap between those two things.

1387
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 3: So that's why no like pressure, even if it's not

1388
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: sack is still so much better than nothing, right, is

1389
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 3: because any quarterback from Mahomes on down is gonna be

1390
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 3: worse under pressure. Right, all Right, we've done enough nerd

1391
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 3: them for today, and the baseball nerds like just come

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01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 3: back to us.

1393
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: Okay, last question.

1394
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 3: Here from the Twitter poll and then and then we

1395
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 3: can get to everybody else. What can we expect from

1396
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 3: a cornerback Isaiah Bolden this year and in the summer?

1397
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 3: Is he going to be a full time special teamer?

1398
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: This is a very very popular question people want to

1399
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 3: know about Isaiah Bulden.

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01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: So Isaia's popular last year too, before we got hurt.

1401
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 3: I think that's why people want to know about Isaiah

1402
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 3: Bulden because until that Green Bay game, not only was

1403
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 3: there buzz in camp, but you know, he played well

1404
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: against Houston, had some good plays on the ball as well,

1405
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: if I remember correctly in that first preseason game.

1406
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: He's an interesting.

1407
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 3: Player because yes, he has a very very good chance

1408
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 3: to be a core contributor on special teams for a while,

1409
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 3: like a real impact player.

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01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: Potentially.

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01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 3: He's got size, he's got speed, he's got tackling ability,

1412
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: he's got all the tools to be a really good

1413
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 3: special teamer. And then on top of that, he's got size,

1414
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 3: he's got speed, and he's got some athleticism and skill

1415
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 3: that maybe he can make it as a corner. They've

1416
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: played him at slot, they've played him outside. They're trying

1417
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 3: to find a role for him on defense. My guess

1418
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 3: is that for now he'll be a utility man on

1419
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: defense that's probably the fourth or fifth corner on the

1420
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 3: depth chart and a core special teamer. But I don't

1421
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: necessarily have him in the locked territory yet. Like I

1422
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 3: moved Alex Austin over to the lock column. But I'm

1423
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 3: I think Isaiah Bolden has a high probability of being

1424
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: on the roster.

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01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be big for him in my is

1426
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: how he looks in the slot, because as much as

1427
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: I like this cornerback room, they are a little thin

1428
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: in the slot, especially if Jonathan Jones is still gonna

1429
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: play on the boundary, because now it's Marcus Jones and

1430
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,839
Speaker 1: then Sean Wade. Yeah, so like you said, if Isaiah

1431
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: bold improves, he can be your backup slot corner. We

1432
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: know he can give you reps in depth on the boundary,

1433
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: maybe play a little safety, and he's gonna play on

1434
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: special teams. That's how you make the team is you

1435
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: do all these different things. So I think he's probably

1436
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: best as a boundary corner. I think that's where he

1437
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: should play the most. But he's not gonna make I

1438
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: mean Gonzales, John Jones, He's playing out there, Alex Austen,

1439
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson. There's not a ton of reps available at

1440
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: boundary corner, So he buys some time on that. Being

1441
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: able to give them depth in the slot, being able

1442
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: to give them productive special teams play, That's how he's

1443
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: gonna make the team, so I'm really watching him in

1444
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: the slot this summer.

1445
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 3: I've encouraged a little bit by the fact that they

1446
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 3: are trying some bigger bodies in the slot than what they've.

1447
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: Used in the past. That's a good point, because yes,

1448
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: there's still the world where you're gonna have to cover

1449
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: the jitterbug slot receive, the Julian Edelman Wes Welker slot receiver.

1450
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: Let's play Dolphins twice here, yeah.

1451
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 3: Or the speed slot receiver, you know, the vertical speed

1452
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 3: slot receiver. Those guys exist. It's still across the league

1453
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to worry about that in division.

1454
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: You just mentioned the Dolphins.

1455
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 3: The Bills have Khlil Shaker, who I think is gonna

1456
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 3: be a breakout player for them potentially this year.

1457
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: The Jets, well, Josh Allen'll get all the credit for that.

1458
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: The Jets, I feel like they do have someone on

1459
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 3: their roster like that, and I'm blanking.

1460
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: Signed Jamison Crowder again.

1461
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's him, but they they might not.

1462
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: I I know it sounds right, hang on, Yeah, I feel.

1463
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 3: Like they do have somebody. I know they traded Elijah More,

1464
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 3: but it was somebody like that.

1465
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh they drafted Malachai Corley.

1466
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: Matt, thank you Malachai Corley, who's deebo light like he's thicker,

1467
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 3: you know, like Marcus Jones might might have a tough

1468
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 3: time tackling Malachai Courtley.

1469
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: So Jameson crowded by the way, still in the NFL.

1470
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: Good he's only thirty one. Uh.

1471
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 3: Anyways, having not necessarily being super reliant on the Miles

1472
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 3: Bryant Marcus Jones body type in the slot and having

1473
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 3: that ability, they're gonna play some big nickel and big

1474
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 3: dime where it might be a Kyle Duggar or Jabriel Peppers.

1475
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 3: That's Marty Mapu who's playing that role, that that star role.

1476
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 3: But it also could be an Isaiah Bolden, or it

1477
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 3: could be a Sean Wayne, you know, somebody has a

1478
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 3: little bit more size and in ability to It's so

1479
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 3: important at that position, I think because for two reasons. One,

1480
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 3: the slot receiver, you have to tackle back those guys

1481
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 3: a lot with the ball in their hands. And two,

1482
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 3: you're at the point of attack in the run game

1483
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 3: a lot because you're basically the strong side linebacker, right

1484
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 3: like that, that's basically the role that you're playing in

1485
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 3: a in a in a nickel or dime defense. So

1486
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 3: having somebody there that's got a little bit more size

1487
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 3: and a little bit more play strength is not necessarily

1488
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 3: a bad thing, you know. They they've guess part of

1489
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: it was out of these are the guys on the team,

1490
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: like Marcus Jones, Miles Bryant, John Than Jones, those are

1491
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 3: the guys on the team. But it was also because

1492
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 3: teams tried to emulate the Patriots, and they try to

1493
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 3: get Edelman's and Welkers and like those types of guys

1494
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 3: in the slot. Now you're seeing guys that are a

1495
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: little bit bigger, that have ball carrying skill, you know,

1496
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 3: the depot types. And now all of a sudden, it's

1497
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: a little bit more of a position where even safeties

1498
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 3: have played a lot more in the slot because of this.

1499
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to seeing Isaiah Bolden the slot too,

1500
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 3: because maybe he will give them a different body type

1501
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 3: in there if they want to go that direction. Sure,

1502
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: And no Miles Bryant. I know people didn't like Miles Bryant,

1503
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 3: but that's a hole. Like he played a ton of

1504
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 3: snaps for this team last year.

1505
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 1: We are a pro Miles Bryant show. We always happened

1506
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: that to me, is the ideal role for Marcus Jones

1507
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: is that Jonathan Jones is in the slot full time.

1508
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: You have a guy like Isaiah Bolden or Sean Wade

1509
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: who can kind of give you some snaps in the slot,

1510
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: and then Marcus Jones is in the slot in certain

1511
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: matchups and maybe play nickel or safety in certain matchups. Yes,

1512
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: and obviously returning kicks. All right, now, William is in Philly.

1513
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: What's up?

1514
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 3: William?

1515
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: Hey? Ever? How you doing good?

1516
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 5: All right? How you doing Alex hate?

1517
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 3: All right?

1518
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 5: I have two takes. I'm sitting here listening to you,

1519
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 5: two gentlemen, And first of all, y'all do an hour

1520
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 5: standing job, and you just get right to it. Okay,

1521
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 5: just two takes, and and I'm gonna get out y'all way, Okay,

1522
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 5: First and foremost, I'm listening to you all talking about

1523
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 5: wide receiver, and I'm kind of y'all really blowing with

1524
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 5: this bow in my mind with it like I'm really

1525
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 5: shocked at both feet. You know, you already know what

1526
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 5: it looks, what it looks like without a number one

1527
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 5: wide receiver. It's time Fells, not twenty twenty four twenty

1528
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 5: twenty five, twenty twenty stake twenty twenty seven. Nah, and

1529
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out how you're gonna get DK neckhand.

1530
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 5: So you got to give a first round pick if

1531
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, So I don't how's that gonna work? Again?

1532
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 5: You got Evan talking about getting the tackled in the

1533
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 5: draft next year, and the second take two? Is this,

1534
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 5: Evan U if the Patients had the number one pick

1535
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,839
Speaker 5: or number two pick, I'm sorry, Will Johnson, Madison Graham,

1536
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter. I forgot the edge rusher from I think

1537
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 5: he's from Texas whatever, James whatever, and then the Wilde

1538
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 5: receiver from Arizona. Everybody wants t Matt. I'm sorry, Evan,

1539
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 5: I ain't doing that because guess what they they supposed

1540
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 5: to got that tackle this year. Man period. They wait

1541
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 5: to a third round and play the round. Okay, because

1542
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 5: Ellen Wook want to be like his daddy on fourteen,

1543
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 5: want to build a team like the package. No, this

1544
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 5: is the new England Patriots. We ain't got time. We

1545
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 5: wasting time for us. We're five years in now and

1546
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 5: you still don't have your blue chip talents for each

1547
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 5: each piece to tackle the receiver even I need it,

1548
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 5: we need even another corner. I don't want to see

1549
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 5: Jonathan Jones get massed by Ti Higgins like you know

1550
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 5: what I mean. I don't want him on the boundary.

1551
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 5: Put him back in the nickel where he belonged at

1552
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Yeah, that's it, gentlemen.

1553
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 3: I love the fire william I always love the energy.

1554
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 3: Just to be fair and I he's made a lot

1555
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 3: of really good points. I'm not trying to, you know,

1556
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: completely go at him, but just to be fair, it's

1557
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 3: not your five for Elliot Wolf and Frodmeo, it's your one, right,

1558
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 3: I get it, No, I get but I hear what

1559
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 3: he's saying. So the biggest thing with with receiver and

1560
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 3: I am going to disagree with people in the draft

1561
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 3: about this. I am going to tell you that they

1562
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 3: should draft to tackle.

1563
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: You all are.

1564
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 3: Gonna not everybody. I shouldn't group everyone together. There's gonna

1565
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 3: be a lot of Williams that are gonna tell me

1566
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm crazy, right, and he just I.

1567
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: Don't know how much we hear about James Pierce though,

1568
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: so Tennessee James Pearce.

1569
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of names that he threw at us.

1570
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 3: That also makes sense, Okay, But everybody always tells you

1571
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 3: the same thing about tackles. It's like getting socks and

1572
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: underwear for Christmas. Right, It's not what you it's not

1573
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 3: the shining need toy, it's not the PS five, Right,

1574
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 3: it's not what you really want. But at the end

1575
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 3: of the day, it's something that every single person on

1576
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 3: planet Earth needs socks and underwear. Right, it's what you need.

1577
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's not what you want, it's what you need.

1578
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 3: And if they go into next offseason and they have

1579
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 3: no answer at left tackle, but they have some young

1580
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 3: receivers in Jalen Polk and jaybon Baker and Pop Douglas

1581
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 3: who are emerging, and they have an opportunity to go

1582
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 3: out in free agency or in the trade, where it's

1583
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 3: far more likely that you're gonna address receiver than it

1584
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 3: is tackle. Yeah, Premium left tackles, like starting caliber, good

1585
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 3: left tackles do not hit the open market too often

1586
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 3: because they're not enough of them. It's there's a there's

1587
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 3: a there's not enough supply to meet the demand. So

1588
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 3: if you have a if you're a team that has

1589
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 3: a very very good left tackle, you don't just let

1590
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: that guy walk out the door. So in order to

1591
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 3: find that type of player, it's much easier to find

1592
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 3: the receiver in the veteran market, trade free agency than

1593
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 3: the tackle. So draft the tackle, trade for the receiver.

1594
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 3: Everybody's happy.

1595
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: And to what the callers said, Well, what if you

1596
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: have to give up your first round pick to get

1597
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: the receiver. Most of these receivers have gone for second

1598
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: round picks. That's just kind of been the price. Worst case, Nara,

1599
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: if you need to up the offer, you do essentially

1600
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: what the Vikings did this year. You use your second

1601
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: round pick and some more assets to trade up late

1602
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 1: into the first and then you move that pick.

1603
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 3: I understand that we all want the Patriots to have

1604
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 3: the superstar receiver.

1605
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: We all want that guy.

1606
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 3: We've all wanted that guy for years, really since Gronkowski

1607
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 3: became aging. You know, Gronkowski started to break down right

1608
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 3: towards the end of his career here, you know eighteen

1609
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 3: with the Patriots. They've been searching for it, and we've

1610
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 3: wanted it and all that kind of stuff. I'm not

1611
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 3: saying don't get it. I'm just saying get it in

1612
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 3: a different way, right, get it through the veteran market

1613
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 3: draft the tackle. Those are where you get the tackles from.

1614
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 3: You can't get the tackle in free agency, like even

1615
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 3: last year, and we clamored for them to sign one

1616
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 3: of the name tackles in free agency last year, you know,

1617
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 3: the mcglinchy, the McGarry's. I still think that those guys

1618
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,879
Speaker 3: would have we would have been better off, the Patriots

1619
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 3: would have been better off in the long term signing

1620
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 3: one of those players. But those guys are not blue

1621
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 3: chip tackles. Those guys are serviceable NFL players, but they

1622
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 3: are not even very good tackles. They're probably like tier three,

1623
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 3: tier four tackles. If you want a tier one, tier

1624
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 3: two tackle, you need to draft that guy. That that's

1625
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 3: the bottom line. I also, I don't have a ton

1626
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 3: and this is it's early, so we'll see. I don't

1627
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 3: have a ton of interest in Travis Hunter. Am I

1628
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: wrong for that?

1629
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: Like I just if you see, if you're looking at

1630
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter and thinking he's going to play in the

1631
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: NFL like he plays in college, like Marcus Jones, but

1632
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: on steroids, right, like literally, but like figuratively, he's not

1633
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 1: going to play entirely on offense and entire If you

1634
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: try to do that one is physically, it's gonna be

1635
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: too much. In two. He's a great player, but there's

1636
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: still some development needed. See what he does this year,

1637
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: but especially as a receiver, he needs to get the

1638
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: work in. And if he's splitting all that time between

1639
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 1: the two sides of the ball, he'll never fully master

1640
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: one position. And if you're using a pick on a

1641
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 1: player that high, you want a guy that that's gonna

1642
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: master a position. So he's a corner, and he is

1643
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: a much better corner than receiver. I think he is

1644
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: a corner at the next level. Now, if you're somebody

1645
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: who believes, and there is an argument to be made,

1646
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm not on this boat. In this boat, but if

1647
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: you're somebody who believes the Patriots first round pick should

1648
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: be a corner, Travis Hunters in the conversation, it's him

1649
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: and Will Johnson from Michigan. Will Johnson's the corner that

1650
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 1: everybody's all hot bothered about this year. I think they're right.

1651
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: I think no the draft people up too. He can play.

1652
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: He can play. He's really good.

1653
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 3: He's probably more of that typical shutdown corner.

1654
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: He's a big body.

1655
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter playmaking corner. Yeah, he's gonna, you know, not

1656
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,520
Speaker 3: to no one's Dion Sanders, but like, you know, he's

1657
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 3: like Will Johnson reminds me more of like a revis,

1658
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 3: whereas Travis Hunter is more like Raymon Diggs.

1659
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: Sure, Trayvon Diggs.

1660
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 3: Probably a more app compton, maybe the greatest quarterback of

1661
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 3: all right.

1662
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 1: Will Johnson's a little more physical, he's probably Honestly, there's like,

1663
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: you got to modernize this. Yeah, there are some shades

1664
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: of like a keep to leap. Yeah, uh in there.

1665
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: It's not a perfect comp but we got got a

1666
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: whole season to figure these guys out. Yeah, that's not bad.

1667
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: I could see that if you want a corner, Like,

1668
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 1: if you're sitting here saying I want the Patriots to

1669
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: take a corner in the first round, there's certainly an

1670
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: argument to be made for Travis Hunter. If you're sitting

1671
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: there saying, Travis Hunter is gonna play on both sides

1672
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 1: of the ball and he's going to be the first

1673
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: two way all Pro since like teams only had thirty

1674
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: players on the roster. Yeah, no, you're kidding yourself. That

1675
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: just can't be done in the NFL. It's it's not

1676
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: going to be done in the NFL.

1677
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: Hey Awks, Yes, you're hosting for July fourth. Am, you're

1678
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 3: hosting me for July fourth.

1679
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: I had meant to ask you about that after your

1680
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: host last year, you like, we're wish you watching about it.

1681
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 3: I think it was a rain game time decision. We

1682
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 3: still had a good time even though I rained this year.

1683
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 3: This year we're one hundred percent in all right. So

1684
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 3: since you're hosting for July fourth, there's always room for

1685
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 3: one more. When you snag a sectional during the Bob's

1686
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 3: Discount Furniture for the fourth celebration, shop your choice of

1687
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 3: featured packed sectionals starting at just seven ninety nine with

1688
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 3: everything you need to party and style this Fourth of July,

1689
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1690
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 3: cup holders. So stop by and get ready for the

1691
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 3: fourth with Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture store of

1692
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 3: the New England Pagerots.

1693
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: Now we're looking forward. I pretty sure the couch will

1694
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: be sitting on is actually from Bob's.

1695
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 3: I love that we're looking forward to coming our couches

1696
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 3: from Bob's too. Hey, and and we have quite the

1697
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 3: setup here, not the you know, not the brag. But

1698
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 3: July fourth, we're coming to Hold with you and we'll

1699
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: be at the beach and then we're going to Martha's

1700
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 3: Vineyard for the week following that. So we have a

1701
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 3: nice little beach beach vacation coming.

1702
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 1: Next week's the week we won't have a show next week.

1703
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 3: That's good point. So next week we not have a show.

1704
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 3: This is my my annual trip to Martha's Vineyard really quickly,

1705
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 3: and then we'll get back to the questions in the

1706
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 3: YouTube chat, is where I want to go next? Last year,

1707
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 3: on our trip to the vineyard in July that we

1708
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 3: take every year, I proposed this year, we're not. We're

1709
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 3: not getting married this summer're gonna get married next summer.

1710
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: So it's no, it's not gonna be anywhere near as good, like,

1711
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 3: so what what can I pull out of my my

1712
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 3: rear end to It's not gonna be engagement and it's

1713
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 3: not gonna be weddings.

1714
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: So it's like, this is that buffer year in between. Well,

1715
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: in the year before you got a job, because the

1716
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: year before was when the Patriots the job.

1717
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 3: But she didn't love that though, because I was like

1718
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 3: negotiating the job on vacation. But in general, this one

1719
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 3: is going to be out of like this three year

1720
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 3: stretch for us. This is gonna be like this weird

1721
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 3: middle down here. Yeah, this is the down year. It's

1722
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 3: like next year is gonna be a wedding. This this

1723
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 3: past year was engagement. So maybe I'll maybe I'll pull

1724
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 3: something out, like at least like a romantic dinner or

1725
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 3: something like that. I would hope you figure at least

1726
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 3: a dinner out. Yeah, So I was kind of thinking,

1727
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: and and again, I know nobody cares about this. I

1728
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 3: was kind of thinking of like maybe like not like

1729
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 3: redoing the whole engagement, but like doing the same like

1730
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 3: night that we did last year, you know, same dinner spot,

1731
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 3: same walk on the beach, like that whole thing. Ring though,

1732
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 3: just kind of like relive it a little bit. Maybe

1733
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 3: I'll take the ring off her finger and like put

1734
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 3: it back on or.

1735
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 1: Something another ring.

1736
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I can barely afford the one she has.

1737
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: All right? What's the YouTube chat? All right? So I'm

1738
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: just really I'm just gonna read bottom up here. Well,

1739
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: there's a Chiefs fan in there that's spamming this. Oh god,

1740
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: come on, keep jumping on him, guys, if I mean,

1741
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: I'll rephrase this question a little bit. If Matthew Judon

1742
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: does get traded before the season, who takes over that role.

1743
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 3: Well, we talked about him a little bit earlier. I

1744
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 3: would assume it's probably Kean White. I would see the

1745
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 3: most of those opportunities. But maybe they viewed that josh

1746
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 3: U J Joshua you J. Can take on a little

1747
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 3: bit more of an increased workload if they do change

1748
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 3: the mechanics of how they do things up front, if

1749
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 3: they're more aggressive, if they're more four down, maybe he

1750
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 3: has that ability where we're not necessarily as worried about

1751
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 3: him setting the edge against the run, and he can

1752
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 3: take on a bigger role in a contract year, you know,

1753
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 3: signing that one year bet on me deal. I'm sure

1754
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 3: JOSHUAUJ would be up for that. So maybe that that

1755
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 3: potentially could be there. But if they trade Judean, I

1756
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 3: would think that the guy they want to emerge from

1757
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: the rough there would would be Kean White.

1758
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: All right, Do you think J. C. Jackson is still

1759
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: in the mix for the Patriots? No? I do not,

1760
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: because that was the report initially was that he might

1761
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: be back. I think I'm with you I think these

1762
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:48,799
Speaker 1: young guys starting to emerge just they have the bodies.

1763
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: They have the bodies, They're gonna move on from one

1764
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: or two NFL caliber players at that position. Yeah, I

1765
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: don't I don't think they need I don't think they

1766
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: need to go do the J. C. Jackson experiment again. Yep.

1767
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: Somebody asked him, we can get a Chad Ryland minute. Sure.

1768
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's changed, Like, I still would like to

1769
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: see them bring in another kicker. These UFL guys are

1770
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: still out there. They'll probably sign closer to camp. I

1771
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: still believe there's a good chance the Patriots Week one

1772
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: kickers not currently on the roster. There's not gonna be

1773
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: unless they signed somebody. There's not gonna be updates there

1774
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: until they start kicking football's at the end of the month. Yep, agreed.

1775
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's a thirty seconds, which is fine. Yeah,

1776
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: let's see here. Uh, somebody said I look like Atticus Schaeffer.

1777
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. I don't know if

1778
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: I should be upset about that. Uh sorry, I'm scrolling

1779
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: through here. Uh what else do we got? I mean,

1780
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: that's more like a all right trivia question? How many

1781
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: games to perset win for the Oh wait, what how

1782
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: many games tot win for the Colts last year? None?

1783
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: He wasn't there. If the line is as bad as

1784
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: it was last year, would you rule out sitting Drake

1785
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: May for the entire season.

1786
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: The line was as bad as it was last year,

1787
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 3: when I rule it out, yes, I would rule it out.

1788
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 3: But that's gonna be unpopular, you know. I see the

1789
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 3: logic and probably start sitting him the entire year. At

1790
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 3: that point, I just really feel I'm so confident in

1791
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 3: his ability and I want to stress this and you

1792
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 3: can vouch here. I was a Drake May guy before

1793
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 3: the Patriots drafted him. Yes, Like, I don't want people

1794
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 3: to this to come off like I now believe in

1795
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 3: him even more.

1796
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: Because you Patriot when you watched Josh Downs for last

1797
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 1: year's draft, Yeah, you're excited about Drake May.

1798
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 3: I just am a real believer in Drake May's talent

1799
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 3: that it would be it would be a bummer just

1800
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 3: have to sit him the entire year because the things

1801
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 3: out of his control. If he's behind the scenes, if

1802
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: he's not ready, that's a totally different story. I just

1803
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 3: don't think that's gonna be the story. The story is

1804
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 3: gonna be the line stinks. We're still trying to figure

1805
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 3: this whole thing out. Throwing a rookie quarterback behind a

1806
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 3: back line is a death sentence. Let's not do it.

1807
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't think the story is gonna be related to

1808
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 3: Drake May's talent, and I think it would be a

1809
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 3: bummer that they have to sit him the whole year.

1810
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: But I see the logic. I'd be very surprised if

1811
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't play all year. I could the line be

1812
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: as bad as last year, yes, and could it delay

1813
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: the process, absolutely, But I think at a certain point

1814
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna want to get him on the field because

1815
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: you want to know what you're working with going into

1816
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: next offseason at the very least. All right kind of

1817
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: related Well, I'll clean this one up again, but basically,

1818
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: what are the chances three or more quarterbacks start games

1819
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: for the Patriots this year? We think it's gonna be two.

1820
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel pretty good at it a week two,

1821
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: So two and a half quarterbacks to start games for

1822
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots here, evan over under. I'm taking the under.

1823
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 3: But because the injuries in the league nowadays at that position,

1824
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 3: it's always possible.

1825
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: Taking the over because of the offensive line and injuries.

1826
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so persecond, and Drake may get hurt.

1827
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: And let me ask you this too, because you and

1828
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: you talked about that that's disaster zone. Well that happens,

1829
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: I won't go quite that far. Yeah, you talked about

1830
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: this earlier. You want them to stick for the to

1831
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: the plan for Drake May, and he may need four

1832
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: or five weeks to get ready. I hear what you're saying.

1833
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: What if Jacoby Brison it gets hurt week one, Zippy,

1834
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: what if he's not here? Would you start Joe Milton?

1835
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 3: That's that's where it gets dicey, and I honestly feel

1836
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 3: the top headline, Yeah, is Drake May this summer.

1837
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: No one's disputing that.

1838
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm really interested in Zappi versus Joe Milton, though too,

1839
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 3: Like I feel like that's almost not as fun, But

1840
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 3: it's like it's so fun.

1841
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: Sneaky important because of the exact SNAr we're laying out.

1842
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: And the other thing is there's a good chance they

1843
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 1: look at both of them and say, we'll go find

1844
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: another version of Nathan Rourke or Will Greer or Matt.

1845
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 3: There's a chance that they look at both of them

1846
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 3: and say, you guys are going to get through waivers

1847
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 3: and we're gonna sign you to the practice squad, just

1848
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 3: like they did with Bailey Zachy last year.

1849
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: So and you'd think a great year last year, they

1850
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 1: can get him to the practice squad after they did.

1851
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess so to the point of say

1852
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 1: Zappi is not an option, let's say they trade him. Yeah,

1853
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 1: would you start because if it's Joe Milton, now you

1854
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: have to deal with your starting a different rookie.

1855
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 3: No, I think you have to. I don't think you

1856
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 3: can do that.

1857
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 1: So would you start Drake Mayor would you go sign

1858
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,480
Speaker 1: Nathan rook Nathan roorkh.

1859
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 3: Maybe go sign who is the guy that started games

1860
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 3: for the Vikings last year?

1861
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: That started Josh Dobbs. He's gonna make a team, like

1862
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just no, You're you're talking about

1863
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: Nathan Rourke, Will Greer, Trace McSorley, throw it on a

1864
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: dime like that kind of guy, that kind of guy.

1865
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: Or do your rush Drake May. Probably I probably rushed

1866
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: Drake May.

1867
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 3: But you know I already gave my Drake Man, and

1868
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 3: so I'd probably rush Drake Man at that point.

1869
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: All right, given the coaching staff for the offense is

1870
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: new to the Patriots. How difficult is it for them

1871
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: to gauge the talent on the roster given the poor

1872
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: offensive coaching the last couple of years. It's a fair question,

1873
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: probably to me.

1874
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 3: I think the hardest part, honestly is the receivers that

1875
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,959
Speaker 3: are already on the team that had such durable quarterback

1876
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 3: play last year.

1877
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 1: It's you know, Pop Douglas.

1878
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 3: You mentioned him earlier that he had a good rookie season,

1879
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 3: but it was just a good rookie season. It wasn't

1880
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 3: this crazy season, okay, But injuries aside, his durability aside,

1881
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 3: which is a big part of the equation with him.

1882
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 3: Is he a eight hundred yard rookie receiver if he

1883
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 3: has a quarterback that can actually throw them the ball?

1884
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1885
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,879
Speaker 3: You know, there's differences there. That's where I think the biggest,

1886
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 3: probably the most difficult part is like blocking is blocking,

1887
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 3: like you can neither block the guy in front of

1888
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,719
Speaker 3: you or you can't. It doesn't really matter a whole

1889
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 3: lot who's behind you in terms of evaluating the personnel

1890
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 3: in that respect, maybe more so for the tackles, just

1891
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 3: because of the depth of the pocket and mobility and.

1892
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff.

1893
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,759
Speaker 3: But I think in general, you can look at film

1894
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 3: and say, this guy can block people or you can't

1895
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 3: block people. Now, in terms of receiver, you're sometimes open.

1896
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 3: When it doesn't look like you're open, you're sometimes you know,

1897
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 3: if you have a great ball, then there's a play

1898
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 3: there that be made that might not necessarily be be made.

1899
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 3: If the quarterback's not aggressive, he's not attacking tight windows,

1900
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 3: he doesn't have the ability to attack tight windows. And

1901
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 3: there's also the element of scramble drill, Like if Drake

1902
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 3: May comes in and he had scrambled drill to the equation, well,

1903
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 3: now all of a sudden you have a whole different

1904
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 3: like unlocked yardage capability.

1905
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Especially for a guy like Pop.

1906
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 3: I would say, who can you know, get open like

1907
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 3: a jitter bug and make those you remember in Dallas

1908
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 3: when he you know, like those types of plays like that,

1909
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 3: those types of plays exist now in droves if Drake

1910
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 3: May is your quarterback, where they did it before. So

1911
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 3: I think for receivers it does matter a lot.

1912
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: I yeah, but I think that's what training camp is for.

1913
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Like they'll know by the start of the season they'll

1914
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: they'll there's a little bit of catch up there, but

1915
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 1: it's nothing. I don't think it's any different than any

1916
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: new coaching staff coming in and taking over a team.

1917
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Drake May out of this question because

1918
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: obviously he would be your answer. Which Patriots player are

1919
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: you the most excited to watch this year? Not necessarily

1920
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: be the best? Who are you the most to watch

1921
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: the I'm gonna take Drake May out of the equation.

1922
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 3: We take all the rookies out, because like Polk and

1923
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 3: Baker probably are.

1924
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, we can take the rookies out.

1925
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: I would say Christians I was gonna say the same thing.

1926
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 3: I'm just really looking forward to seeing him back out there,

1927
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 3: and also, of course seeing if that month was if

1928
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 3: he's gonna be that guy forever, like every every game

1929
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 3: for seventeen weeks or eighteen weeks, then they've they've got

1930
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 3: an all pro caliber corner.

1931
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a chance to turn into a blue

1932
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 1: chip player. Yeah, and that's what's cool. If you're gonna say, hill,

1933
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: I guess you said no rookies, I'd say, jaem Belle,

1934
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: it is gonna board the c O. I popped Douglas.

1935
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: I guess the easy answer, but like sneaky answer, this

1936
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 1: is gonna bug the crap out of you. Antonio Gibson.

1937
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 3: You're excited to watch Antonio Gibson.

1938
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: A two hundred and twenty pound running back that can

1939
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: run a four to four. Yeah, there might be some

1940
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: fun there in this scheme. Throw a pride in this system.

1941
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: It looks like the Panthers pride. He might do some

1942
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 1: fun things. Yeah, he might do some fun things. Okay,

1943
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 1: dark Horse answer, all right, you're gonna hate this question. Yep,

1944
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I even know the question is not

1945
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: about the Patriots. Oh okay. What was the first time

1946
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,680
Speaker 1: the two of us worked together? And I'm gonna read

1947
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: this word for word because it's hilarious. Oh what did

1948
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: you both see in the other that made you think

1949
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: this combo is going to work?

1950
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 3: The first time we worked together was a draft.

1951
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: Show Draft show. You came on as a guest. I

1952
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 1: came on as a guest. I was still working at

1953
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: SI in New York.

1954
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 3: At the time, and I was in my my apartment,

1955
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 3: I be doing.

1956
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it. We were doing zoom shows, skype

1957
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 1: shows before the pandemic, before it was cool, right, we

1958
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: were doing that way back and see all four remotes

1959
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 1: were like the thing to do that show. Somewhere it's

1960
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: us breaking down.

1961
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 3: It is definitely somewhere the twenty eighteen, eighteen or eighteen

1962
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 3: it was Win.

1963
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 1: It was Isaiah Win.

1964
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was eighteen because I ended up moving back

1965
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 3: to Boston for the eighteen season, but I wasn't there

1966
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 3: for the draft training camp. My first training camp was nineteen,

1967
01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 3: even though my first season covering you're.

1968
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: There for party camp in eighteen, very briefly, right the

1969
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 1: very end, because I mean, yeah, so and then we

1970
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: obviously started together that season, and I don't I don't

1971
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: know I ever told the story on the air. You

1972
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: know this, yes, So, like to the second part of

1973
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: the question. That's why it's so funny, is like I

1974
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: thought going into that year, I was going to be

1975
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: like the guy for that company covering the Patriots, and

1976
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 1: you were kind of added late. See I don't want

1977
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: to throw people under the bus everything that you were

1978
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: kind of added late, and it kind of hit me

1979
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: as like, oh, I thought this was my job. Now

1980
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,879
Speaker 1: here comes this guy and he's got this Twitter following,

1981
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: he's coming from New York and you know what's going

1982
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: to happen, and then obviously it worked out. But yeah,

1983
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: I feel like we thought you were trying to remember

1984
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 1: Brady Bleds on me. You remember when James Harrison said

1985
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 1: that he wanted to hate Tom Brady. And I'm not

1986
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: comparing myself to Tom Brady, but.

1987
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, it's kind of like one

1988
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 3: of those situations where I came into it thinking, oh,

1989
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 3: you know, this is my competition. You came into it

1990
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 3: obviously it was a weird situation for you as you.

1991
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: Just laid out that old I mean, I I remember

1992
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: going back to that true Bledze line of like I'm

1993
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: excited to compete for my job.

1994
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then as it turned out like a weekend,

1995
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 3: we both realized like, oh we could just do this together.

1996
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was just like, well, because so Evan was

1997
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: like petrified of being on camera.

1998
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I never really had done it before in like a.

1999
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: Large he didn't want to do any video editing, any

2000
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,839
Speaker 1: social media, so somebody had to do all the other stuff.

2001
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: But the reality was they needed somebody to do that.

2002
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: So that kept me around and I put the pieces

2003
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: together just so.

2004
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to sound like too much of a diva.

2005
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 3: You may do with all the editing and stuff.

2006
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you were a little bit of a But.

2007
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 3: The reason why I didn't want to do it was

2008
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 3: because I didn't want to open the door of like

2009
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 3: I could do this.

2010
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:49,600
Speaker 1: I get and then and then all of a.

2011
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 3: Sudden, it's your job, right, you know, and you're expected

2012
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: to do it on a regular going. Looking back on it, yeah,

2013
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 3: a little bit of a diva still am. I'm a

2014
01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 3: little bit of a We're gonna be honest.

2015
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Well, one of us every time was carrying the equipment

2016
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: to their.

2017
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 3: Car's way, and I was I sometimes I would walk

2018
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,440
Speaker 3: with you to chat and but but still.

2019
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:14,440
Speaker 1: Make you it all obviously worked out, Yeah, obviously.

2020
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 3: Ill, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna still.

2021
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: It all worked out, all right, we got that was

2022
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 1: pretty much it for the questions in the chat. Okay,

2023
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: there's a few emails. We're gonna get more questions about

2024
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 1: that story now.

2025
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure, yeah, that that was honestly, Uh, you know,

2026
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,839
Speaker 3: we went to college together, but we weren't friends in college.

2027
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 1: I actually made I made Evan quit college radio. Yeah,

2028
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: so that like not on purpose. So I don't want

2029
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 1: to tell the whole story because I'm going on with

2030
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 1: Mike and whole podcast.

2031
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I won't tell the story. I'll save it

2032
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 3: for Mike. But yeah it, uh you did. I'll tell

2033
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 3: this part of the story on Monday. Yeah, six a

2034
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 3: m on Mondays. Because you thought I was a freshman.

2035
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: So when I scheduled him to do radio because I

2036
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 1: recognize the name.

2037
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was probably. I wasn't a friend, I wasn't

2038
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 3: a senior yet. I was probably like, yeah you were,

2039
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,719
Speaker 3: was I yeah, because I was. I was sports director

2040
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 3: my junior year, so to be in your senior year, okay,

2041
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,839
Speaker 3: I didn't realize. I waited it out. I like lasted

2042
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 3: that long.

2043
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and fall follow your senior year. I gave you

2044
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 1: six twenty six am on Monday sportscast on v C

2045
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: Radio and New York v IC Radio, which is like

2046
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,759
Speaker 1: the introntate that was that was the minor league Stanea.

2047
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: It wasn't even it's not even like the one that

2048
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 1: was actually on the radio. Right, Yeah, No, I was.

2049
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 1: I was so out. I was so out. I mean

2050
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: started blogging about the Patriots because you weren't doing radio.

2051
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I started, well, now we're really giving away and

2052
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 3: turned Mike the podcast. All right, we'll go back to

2053
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 3: some of the emails here. We did get a few

2054
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 3: email questions in Uh, Linda, who's a big fan of

2055
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 3: the show, so she enjoys our show immensely. We really

2056
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 3: appreciate that, thank you, Uh, she says, relatable analytics for

2057
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 3: Pat's operations player deep dives typically Craft cap to the

2058
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 3: Craft organization forgetting YouTube in the building. Wow, I really

2059
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 3: think appreciate that. So any thoughts, and we've gotten this

2060
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 3: question before and I don't have a definitive answer on

2061
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 3: some of it, but any thoughts on dates for instadium

2062
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 3: practice and padded practices. I'm flying up from Atlanta ten

2063
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 3: to one or both of those events. Hope to catch

2064
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 3: you on the field. Yeah, absolutely, come say hi to

2065
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 3: us at some point when you're here.

2066
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 1: So we tried doing the math on this. Yeah, and

2067
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 1: it's usually the end of that first week, yes, but

2068
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 1: it's usually on Friday, right, it's usually Friday night, but

2069
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 1: this year they so it's usually that Friday night and

2070
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: then they're off on Saturday. Yes, this year they practice

2071
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday, the twenty seventh, No, the first full week,

2072
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 1: so this is August, second harvest thirday, So will it

2073
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 1: still be Friday? Will it still be the last the

2074
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 1: end of the week. My guess would be if they

2075
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: do it again, we assume they're gonna do it again,

2076
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: would be August second or August third, first fully padded

2077
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 1: practice again. The rules change every year. I think is

2078
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: Monday the twenty ninth, Yes, that would be the fifth practice. Yes,

2079
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: so they practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday off, Saturday back Sunday,

2080
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 1: then pads on Monday.

2081
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 3: So the thing that always confuses me about so it's

2082
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 3: a five day ramp up period with one off day

2083
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 3: with an in the sixth day has to be an

2084
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 3: off day?

2085
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:19,719
Speaker 1: Oh, the sixth day has within the first.

2086
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 3: Six days, you have to have an off day. It

2087
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 3: doesn't have It could be two in three and an

2088
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 3: off day. It could be you know, you can kind

2089
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 3: of do whatever you want.

2090
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: That but Monday, that Monday is the fifth practice.

2091
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 3: So the part that always confuses me is does veteran

2092
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 3: report date count as one of the five days? That's Tuesday, right,

2093
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 3: That's Tuesday, the twenty third. So Tuesday, the twenty third

2094
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 3: is when everybody has to be in the building. Yeah,

2095
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 3: they'll do the conditioning test they'll have meetings, but they

2096
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 3: won't have a fourmal practice. The first day of formal practice,

2097
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 3: which is open to the public if you want to

2098
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 3: come by, is July twenty fourth, the first full day

2099
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 3: of practice. So I believe that that Tuesday, the twenty

2100
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 3: third is part of the ramp up period, report date,

2101
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 3: conditioning test, first team meeting, YadA, YadA, YadA, yep. So

2102
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 3: that means the twenty third, twenty fourth, twenty fifth, and

2103
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:09,719
Speaker 3: twenty sixth.

2104
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 1: That's four days off day.

2105
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 3: There's a chance the twenty eighth could be the first

2106
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 3: padded practice, if that's the math, but it's gonna be

2107
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 3: either the twenty eighth or the twenty ninth.

2108
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go.

2109
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the long way of looking at it. The

2110
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 3: non padded practices are still fun to come to, but

2111
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 3: it's just it's exactly what we see at Mini camp

2112
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 3: and OTAs. It's just an extension of that. It's non pads,

2113
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,600
Speaker 3: it's non contact, but you still see a lot of

2114
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 3: passing in those days because you're not gonna do run

2115
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 3: game when there's no pads, right, You save that for

2116
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 3: the pads. So if you want to come and see,

2117
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 3: like Drake may and Joe Milton spin it then like

2118
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 3: those days are actually not terrible days to come to

2119
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 3: because you will see a lot of passing.

2120
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: All right. Somebody in the YouTube chat asked if you're

2121
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: going to have a signing event. If I'm gonna have

2122
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 1: a signing event, yeah, I was.

2123
01:40:58,080 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 3: Not planning on that note. But you can come by

2124
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,719
Speaker 3: and say hello like that. We don't need to sign stuff.

2125
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 3: People come up to your train of camp. Maybe I

2126
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 3: signed like a person's cast once, like a kid asked

2127
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 3: me to sign a cast like he had a broken wrist.

2128
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,440
Speaker 3: You know that type of cast?

2129
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 1: All right? Wait, was this like Evan Lazzar, the Patriots reporter,

2130
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: Like you were ten, your buddy was ten, he broke

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Speaker 1: his wrist.

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Speaker 3: No, no, Evan Lazzar like Patriots are even though I

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Speaker 3: just pat that, I just did that. Yeah, it actually

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Speaker 3: happened in Germany. Oh okay, yeah yeah, uh so, uh Ronky,

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Speaker 3: I think I'm saying that right. Hope, I am from

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis asks. I've heard you guys and many others refer

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01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 3: to the way Javon Baker moves in practice and how

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01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 3: he is noticeably explosive. I was just wanting to know

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Speaker 3: if it seems significantly more explosive than the other receivers

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01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 3: we currently have on the roster and what role we

2141
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 3: envisioned him playing. So is it noticeably above the other

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01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 3: receivers on the roster. I would say it's in. It's

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01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 3: like popped up glass. Is also a very explosive mover,

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01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 3: different kinds of explosive, but yeah, different kind of explosive

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01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 3: in terms of the body types that are more apt

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Speaker 3: to you know, compare to Javon Baker, I'd say that

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01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,879
Speaker 3: he does move a little bit more, a little bit differently,

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01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 3: a little more twitchy. You know, he's got that ability

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Speaker 3: to just kind of explode out of cuts and you know,

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01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 3: really just use that second gear. I think that was

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Speaker 3: the thing that stood out to me the most with

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01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 3: him is not necessarily that he's explosive off the line

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Speaker 3: of scrimmage at any exceptional rate. He has a nice

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01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 3: like second gear where he can find either through the

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01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 3: break point at the top of the route or down

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01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 3: the field, like when the ball's in the air and

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01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 3: he's tracking it. He all he builds speed as he

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01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 3: progresses down the field instead of like sputtering out as

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01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 3: he goes down the field. But I don't necessarily look

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Speaker 3: at him yet as like somebody who was like super

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Speaker 3: explosive off the line, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's more explosive, like vertically, like his

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01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 1: ability to go up and get the football and you know,

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01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 1: run through contact, things like that role. I think he

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna well, it's a new offense, so I

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01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 1: guess it's kind of tough to it's apples and oranges.

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01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: But like basically DeVante Parker like he should be an X, right,

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01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be their ex He's gonna be their their

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01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 1: jump ball red zone. I don't think we talk enough

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Speaker 1: about him maybe in the red zone as we should. Yeah,

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01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: but that kind of contested catch receiver. I think that's

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01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 1: his role. Okay, how do you think this is from

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01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: Ben in the UK? I didn't.

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Speaker 3: This is actually it's a Shutters Yeah, you know Claire Claire, Yeah,

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01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 3: Claire perspective the podcast. This is Chutters is their sidekick. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: How do you think may should be given time in

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01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 3: preseason games first drive with the ones or Besett should

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Speaker 3: get the first look?

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Speaker 1: Is a really good question. I did this on a podcast,

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01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:49,680
Speaker 1: all right, should make it a larger share of the

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01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:51,520
Speaker 1: reps to aid his development.

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Speaker 3: So if you remember back to the Mac Jones summer,

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Speaker 3: which is all I have to compare it to, really,

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01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 3: Cam Newton started games in the preseason and then Mac

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01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 3: would run like two quarters, you know, just Mac. So

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Speaker 3: if they follow that script, then it would be Jacoby

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01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 3: Brissett would get the ones and get the first quarter, right,

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Speaker 3: then maybe you see Drake May for the whole second

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Speaker 3: and third quarter, and then they maybe give Joe Milton

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, So something like that.

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Speaker 1: This is where there's a couple of wild cards here.

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Speaker 1: One new coaching staff, we don't know how they're gonna

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Speaker 1: manage it. Two is Bailey's happy here for the preseason

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Speaker 1: because I don't think do they care to give him reps.

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Speaker 1: So again, I did this on a podcast couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: You have twelve quarters of preseason football, right, three games,

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Speaker 1: twelve quarters, And I know, I don't know why I'm

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Speaker 1: doing so many over unders today. Six and a half

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Speaker 1: Drake May six and a half quarters of football? We

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Speaker 1: see hot.

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Speaker 3: I am so meaning he plays more than just a

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Speaker 3: half or two quarters on whatever that I would say,

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01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say over because I think there's a chance

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01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 3: that they might want to play him into the fourth

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01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 3: quarter just to see that extended look at him and maybe,

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01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 3: you know, work on some things and and stuff like that.

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01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 1: I go the other way. I wonder if I know,

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01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 1: I go over, but for a different reason. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: wonder if Jacoby Brissette plays in all three games and

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01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 1: he gets the start of just he gets the game right,

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01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: the veteran treatment, even the what is it? Mac Jones

2212
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 1: last year only started one game? Yeah, right, he only

2213
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: played in one game? Was that first game?

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01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 3: Nobody played in the in the Tenant Tennessee game, and

2215
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 3: it was the third one, right, yes, yeah, third one

2216
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 3: Mac played. The Green Bay game was up and down. Yeah,

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01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 3: and then the Titans game everybody's.

2218
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 1: Said, right, and then the first game Mac didn't play either. Yeah,

2219
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: so you know, just Jacoby again, new coaching staff, knew everything.

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Speaker 1: Who knows? But what if? Week here's one potential timeline yep.

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01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 1: Week one, Quarter one, Bailey's happy, second quarter. Third, we're

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01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 1: talking about preseason, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, second quarter, third quarter,

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01:45:56,120 --> 01:46:00,719
Speaker 1: Drake May, fourth quarter, Joe Milton. Yeah. Week two, Kobe Brissette,

2224
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 1: Drake May, Drake made Joe Milton. Week three, Drake May

2225
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 1: Drake May, Joe Milton, Joe Milton.

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01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 3: So I was the only I that's probably I think

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01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 3: that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: Or actually, sorry, let me flip that Jacoby starts the

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01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 1: first game because part of the reason if they're gonna

2230
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: sit Jacoby for a preseason game, it makes the most

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01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 1: sense that it's that Eagles game because that's he's had

2232
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 1: the joint practice against. But the idea be basically, three

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01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,720
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks start all three different preseason games, and Drake

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01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 1: May's just playing in the middle of all of them.

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Speaker 3: The only the only, like, the only possible thing would

2236
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 3: be if they're trying to showcase Bailey's app.

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Speaker 1: So that that's a factor here, and.

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Speaker 3: Like Jacoby Brissett right preseason type game, Well, I don't

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01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 3: have the fourth preseason game now as.

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Speaker 1: As and this is the year they miss it. As

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01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 1: much as this would suck, I don't think that there's

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01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,839
Speaker 1: a possibility that Joe Milton doesn't play in the preseason

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01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: just to hide it. No, just because they want to

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01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 1: give We saw it in the spring. I think there's

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01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: a chance that they a chance he's making it to

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01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: roster cuts. Calm down, he's making it.

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01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 3: No, no, no, No, that's not where I'm going. I think

2248
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 3: there's a chance that they hide the Bazuka from the fans.

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01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 1: Ah people know people know, oh, from the fans or

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Speaker 1: from other teams, hang.

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Speaker 3: On from the masses. I shouldn't say just the fans,

2252
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 3: your station, the masses. I because in order to see

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01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,640
Speaker 3: Joe Milton, yeah, and to see the Bazuka, now you

2254
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 3: need to go to training camp and your show, your

2255
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 3: station needs to do their shows down there, which they

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Speaker 3: will I'm sure, but now you have to like actually

2257
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 3: really want to make this sense.

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01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: So you're using Joe Milton just for marketing essentially, I

2259
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: don't know, no, no, no, no, no.

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01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying that if you put it out there on

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01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 3: a TV broadcast for the whole world to see, and

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01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 3: he has a out of body experience and the preseason

2263
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 3: could happen, the hype is going to go like this.

2264
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 1: I know, I you know. I was back back at

2265
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 1: the draft. I was like this.

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01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 3: I am in favor of putting every taking a bucket

2267
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,679
Speaker 3: of water ye on the Joe Milton hype and dumping

2268
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 3: it as much as I possibly can.

2269
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 1: You've heard me say this since the Senior Bowl. What

2270
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 1: is the first thing I told you about Joe Milton.

2271
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 1: He is going to have the most exciting free season

2272
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:31,600
Speaker 1: in NFL history. I would like to avoid that. I

2273
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 1: understand that. I think if he doesn't play, it's because they,

2274
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 1: like we saw in the spring, they just prioritize the

2275
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 1: other reps. Jacoby Brissett's got to get ready for the

2276
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: start of the season, obviously, and I really, if I'm

2277
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 1: ranking them in order of importance, Drake May's got to

2278
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 1: get you know, you need that for his development. Jacoby

2279
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 1: Brissett's got to get ready for the start of the season.

2280
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: And then, like you mentioned, if they are going to

2281
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: showcase Bailey's appy, I think that takes precedent, probably would

2282
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 1: take president over Joe Milton if they move Bailey's appy.

2283
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 1: I do think we see a lot of Joe Milton

2284
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 1: in the preseason in games. I'm sorry, I think we do.

2285
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 1: And it's going to be.

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01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 3: He's gonna have the Malik Cunningham drive against the Houston

2287
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 3: Texans and we're gonna hear about it all year. Remember

2288
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 3: that drive in the fourth quarter?

2289
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, remember the throw? There was an incomplete throw

2290
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: that everybody.

2291
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 3: Kept going exact is on a bootleg right.

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01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 1: I think Joe Milton's and let me be clear, Joe

2293
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 1: Milton is better than Elie cunning him. Yeah, I agree

2294
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 1: with that, but I if they're hiding him for the narrative,

2295
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 1: that worries me about what they think of Drake May.

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01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 3: I kind of had a feeling in the spring. We

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01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 3: did not see a whole lot of reps for Joe

2298
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 3: Milton in the spring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know, but we didn't see a

2300
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 1: whole lot of reps for Bailey's Appy either.

2301
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a different situation. Joe Milton's a rookie,

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01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 3: like you're trying to develop the guy. You clearly see

2303
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 3: something in them to draft. I think they have two

2304
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that they just a little bit.

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01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,639
Speaker 1: I think they have two quarterbacks that have immediate needs

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01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: in terms of jacober Sec getting read and Drake May's development,

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01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 1: and that's where the reps are to go around. I

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01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 1: think Joe Milton.

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01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 3: There is there a chance, though, and this is total

2310
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 3: tinfoil hat, that behind closed doors in the spring, Joe

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01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 3: Milton was seeing a ton more reps than in the

2312
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:17,640
Speaker 3: practices that were open to us.

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01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 1: Because I think there's a chance that that was the case.

2314
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I did that that. But if that's

2315
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: the case, one that worries me what they think about

2316
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: Drake may that he can't handle that. It also kind

2317
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 1: of excites me about Joe Milton because what's he doing

2318
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 1: that that? You know? He it's the man. So Joe

2319
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 1: Milton is now the Manhattan Project. Yes, we can't let

2320
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 1: people see this. It's going to change the world. Right,

2321
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,520
Speaker 1: you have to be on the clearance list to see him.

2322
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: You know. I think we have the new nick because

2323
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 1: Joe Milton doesn't like the nickname Bzuka Joe because the

2324
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Buzuka can only go so far. He's the Manhattan, Manhattan Project,

2325
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Speaker 1: Joe Milton, the Manhattan Project. That's actually pretty good. Uh

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01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 1: all right, let's answer to the last couple of weeks.

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01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 1: What's uh uh what's Offenheimer's first name? Again? Oh? God,

2328
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fancy. I should know that. Yeah, we

2329
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 1: definitely should know that. J J Robert Oppenheimer. This is

2330
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 1: Joe Milton Offenheimer. He's up and.

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01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 3: Oh no, all right, this is from Paul and uh,

2332
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 3: this is how he's going to wants to go out

2333
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 3: to training camp practice and watch a couple of practices,

2334
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 3: and he asks, how would you tell people to watch

2335
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 3: practices to understand what's going on? And uh, I what

2336
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 3: to look for, how to evaluate, et cetera. Paul, it's

2337
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 3: your lucky day. We actually did we did this. We

2338
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 3: did this show last year, and I know you're gonna

2339
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 3: have to scroll back through the shows that we've done

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Speaker 3: in the past year.

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Speaker 1: I also wrote it.

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Speaker 3: Actually, but we did like a f a q of

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Speaker 3: how to watch a training camp practice like media like

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01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:47,679
Speaker 3: we do. UH, So you can go ahead and listen

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01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 3: to that show. Not everybody liked that show. We got

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01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 3: we got some people that were like, what the heck is.

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Speaker 1: The people were really upset by that. Yeah, it was weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was one of these off season shows

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01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: that we, you know, we're looking for something to do

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01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 3: and talk about, and I thought it was It came

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01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 3: out pretty well. So go back and look like around

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01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,799
Speaker 3: this time last year, you know, June July dead period

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01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 3: of the off season, and you'll you'll find that show

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01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 3: and you know you'll answer.

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Speaker 1: Your own question. All right, this is UH.

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Speaker 3: I don't know this is from UH, but UH, good

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Speaker 3: good day guys, love CATCHWY two. My question is two

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01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 3: parts what is one of them? One or more things

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01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 3: about the Patriots you're ominous about, and what are you

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01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 3: optimistic about with this team? So I think the thing

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01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 3: that I am ominous about remains the offensive line. Biggest

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01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 3: story with the team in terms of what's the big

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01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 3: weakness or the big hole, it remains the offensive line.

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01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 3: We've talked to seventeen different ways about why. But you know,

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Speaker 3: obviously the tackle situation I think is at the top

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01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 3: of that list. I do believe that they will be

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01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 3: able to find three solid interior players. It might mean

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01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 3: moving on when you back inside, which might not be

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01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 3: what they really want to do, but they could find

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01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 3: a decent interior between cities. So David Andrews, Mike Onwenu,

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01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 3: maybe Cole Strange comes back at some point. They could

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01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 3: be okay up the middle. It's the tackles that are

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01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 3: scary scary back. Yeah, what am I optimistic about? I'm

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01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 3: bullish on the defense. I remain bullish on the defense.

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01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 3: I might be in the minority.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 3: I know there are a lot of people that feel

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01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 3: like Belichick is going to be a big loss. Belichick's

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01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 3: I should say, Steve Yeah, also fair critique there's a chance.

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01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 3: I think early on in the season that DeMarcus Covington

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01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 3: still is trying to figure out calling plays in game

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01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, And maybe it's not

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01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 3: great out of the gate, but I think ultimately their

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01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 3: talent will carry them on the defense side of the ball,

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01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 3: and I really do believe that that they're going to

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01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 3: be a.

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Speaker 1: Very good defense. I would say specifically the secondary. Yeah,

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01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 1: very very excited for the secondary, and there's a ton

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01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 1: of potential there. It's a young group, it's an athletic group,

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01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 1: good size, good speed, good technique. Mike Pellegrino's back. You

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01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 1: talk about the loss of the Belichicks, which obviously is

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01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: not nothing, but I do think it's massive. They got

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01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: Mike Pelagreno back, underrated coach. I'm really excited to see

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01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 1: what the secondary can do. Follow breaking news, Sure got

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01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 1: some Patriots breaking news, Oh boy. File to ESPN via

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Speaker 1: Mike Reese and Adam Schefter, Patriots and linebacker Jelani Tavai

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01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 1: have agreed on a three year extension maximum value of

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01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,879
Speaker 1: twenty one million dollars base value of fifteen million dollars

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01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 1: per sources. Again, this is from Reese reporting that Jelani

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01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 1: Tavai on an extension. So another in house guy that

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01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:31,640
Speaker 1: was going to be a free agent at the end

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01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: of the next this coming up season, it's gonna be

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01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five free agent now signs to a

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01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 1: three year deal. I actually love this contract.

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01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and don't say I love every contract because I

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01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 3: killed them for Ramandra Stevenson last year. I actually really

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01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 3: liked this contract. I think Jelani Teva is one of

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01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 3: the most underrated linebackers in the NFL, whereas a ton

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01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 3: of different hats, has really improved his game in space,

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01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 3: like he's no longer a liability in coverage. His instincts

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01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 3: and his reads are much much better than when they

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01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 3: they first got his hand their hands on him.

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01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 1: A really still a Belichick.

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Speaker 3: Lunch Paiale guy, in my opinion, you know, a hard

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01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 3: hat guy. He's not necessarily somebody that's gonna be eye

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01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 3: popping in terms of the production or the splash plays

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01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 3: or something like that. But he is a very very

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01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 3: very good player, like a solid, rock solid player, and

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01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 3: that's good value. Three years, twenty one million. You're not

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01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 3: overpaying by any stretch of the imagination. So I think

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Speaker 3: this is a really good deal for the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd agree. Again does wear's a lot of hats

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01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 1: for him. Good especially a good early down player, which

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01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 1: you need, especially if you know, we'll see what happens

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01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 1: with Von Godshaw. It's another guy that impacts those downs

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01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 1: and a leader, a leader in the locker room, which

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Speaker 1: is you're going through a state of change with the Patriots,

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01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: are you want to make sure you keep that core intact?

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Speaker 1: So good for him? How old is he? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Well, this is his technically third.

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01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 1: Wow, he's only going he's going his age twenty eight.

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01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah he thought he was like thirty. Yeah, great contract,

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01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 1: good job, really good contract for the Patriots. There and.

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Speaker 3: Again this is why and just to expand on the

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Speaker 3: bullish on the and then we have to wrap on

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01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 3: the defense really quickly. This is why I'm bullish on

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01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:10,960
Speaker 3: the defense is because not only do they have those

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01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 3: high end guys like Christian Barmore, Matthew Judah, Christian Gonzales,

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01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 3: potentially maybe Kyle Duggar, you know, I think can be

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01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 3: one of the blue chipp or at least a red

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01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 3: chip player for them Jabrill Peppers. They also have a

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Speaker 3: bunch of these lunch Pale Belichick guys still, you know

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01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 3: those guys that are just gonna come to work every

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01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 3: single day and do their jobs. Bentley to Buy God Show,

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01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 3: Dietrich Wise, you know, like they they're loaded with those

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01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 3: guys as well. So you have top end talent, you

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01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 3: have depth, you have that next like middle class layer

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01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 3: there too, and then you have some young guys that

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01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 3: hopefully are up and coming as well. And we talked

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01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 3: about ze Bolden today. You know those types of players.

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01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 3: So exciting, exciting contract for the Patriots. And uh, just

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01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 3: a reminder before we sign off here, we will not

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Speaker 3: have a show next week.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on vacation. The following week we will.

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Speaker 3: Be back and believe it or hot House Rainy can't

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