1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Michael Varry Show is on the air. Maybe you can 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: just go back, go back. Yeah, pretend like it never happened. 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 3: Let me just walking to the staff meeting on Monday 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: morning like it never happened. 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Sure, you're an emotional person. People don't take you seriously. 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Just go back. 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: Pretend the whole thing never happened. Never happened. I was 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: blowing off a little steam. So what so what you're 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: entitled unemotional? That's right, You're emotional. Never happened. Do you 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: think that it's respectful? What on succumb to the Oval 12 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: Office of the United States of America and attack the 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: administration that is trying to try to prevent the destruction. 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: You're a lot of questions. Let's start from the biginn 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: suor fills to wall during the war. Everybody has problems, 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: even you. But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, 17 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: but you don't feel it in the future. Bless, you're 18 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: not bless. You don't tell us what we're gonna feel. 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna feel. I'm not telling you because you're in 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: no position to dictate, that is that what you're in. 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 4: No position to dictate what we're gonna feel. 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 5: We're gonna feel very good, feel influence. 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 4: We're gonna feel very good, very strong. You're right now 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 4: not in a very good position. 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: You've allowed you to be in a. 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 4: Very bad positions to be right. 28 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: About the very beginning of the war. 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 4: Not in a good position. You don't have the cards 30 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: right now with us. You start having calls right now. 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: You see billions of people. 32 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: See gambling with world War three. 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: You're gambling with world War three. 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 5: You got to know when the whole of them no, 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 5: when the fold, no, when the wall, and when to run? Juniver, 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 5: count your old bunny, when you're sitting at the table. 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: There will be time enough to count when the dealers done. 38 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: All I can say is this, he might have broken 39 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: deals with Obama and Bush, and he might have broken 40 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 4: him with by he did maybe maybe he did. 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. But he didn't break him 42 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: with me. He wants to make a deal. I don't 43 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: know if he can make a deal. 44 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 4: The problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy, 45 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: and I don't think you'd be a tough guy without 46 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: the United States, and your people. 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: Are very brave. 48 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: But you're either going to make a deal or we're out. 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: And if we're out, you'll fight it out. 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 2: I don't think it's. 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 4: Gonna be pretty, but you'll fight it out. 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: You don't have the cards. But once we sign that deal, 53 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: you're in. 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 4: A much better position. 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: But you're not acting at all thankful. And that's not 56 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: a nice thing. 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing. 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 5: You got no the home, no wind, the folder, no when. 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: The ark, and no to run jun come when you're 60 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: sitting the. 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 6: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen says when he was in the 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 6: Oval office during the meeting with Zelensky on Friday, and 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 6: he said it was Zelensky who blew up the negotiations. 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: And I think he's right in this part that Ukraine 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: does not want peace. 66 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 7: Okay, Well, it's news to me that this was that 67 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 7: the sequencing is shifting. That you were saying you have 68 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 7: to agree to a peace deal before the minerals agreement. 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 7: There aren't even negotiations for a peace deal on your. 70 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: First it's not a minerals agreement, it's a general economic agreement. 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: So calling your mentals agreement is incorrect, and I think 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: we have to see if President Silensky wants to proceed. 73 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: What's what's the use in having an economic agreement that's 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: going to be rendered moot if he wants the fighting 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: to continue. 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: President Trump wants a peace steal Vladimir Putin. 77 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 7: It's unclear if he wants a peace steel though there 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 7: are no negotiations under why. The Secretary of State said 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 7: that on another network this morning. 80 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and President Trump. 81 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: President Trump has said that President Trump is trying to 82 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: move forwards peace. 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 2: He said repeatedly. 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: During during that episode in the Oval, we don't know 85 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: if we'll get a peace steel, but we. 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: Got to try, Okay. 87 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 7: Last Sunday, President Trump's envoy Steve Whitcoff said on another 88 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 7: network that the plan for negotiations was the so called 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 7: draft is done bul protocol. The Institute for the Study 90 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 7: of Wars is that this would leave Ukraine helpless in 91 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 7: the face of future thresh Russian threats or aggression. If 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 7: that's described as the future of US diplomacy and the framework, 93 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 7: why isn't mister Zelenski asking the right question when he says, 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 7: how can I agree to a ceasfire with no security guarantees, 95 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 7: or even a minerals agreement or investment agreement without security guarantees. 96 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think the plan is for the European 97 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: Union to provide this security, not NATO, the European Union. 98 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: And again the tragedy of Friday, and I don't know 99 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: what President Zelenski was thinking. We had President of France 100 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: Emmanuel Macron in on Monday, great meeting. We had Prime 101 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: Minister kir Stammer on Thursday, fantastic meeting. 102 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: They were all on board the arc of the peace agreement. 103 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: All President Zelensky had to do was come in and 104 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: sign this economic agreement and again show no daylight, no 105 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: daylight between the Ukrainian people and the American people, and 106 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: he chose to blow that up. 107 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: So the deal is no longer on the table. 108 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 7: Just to be abundantly clear, not at present. 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: Victor Davis Hanson wrote an excellent piece On's behavior, and 110 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: he says, I won't read you all of it, but 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: he points out a number of things, and I thought 112 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: this was very good. Where he noted that the people 113 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: who are Zelenski's aiders and a Better's and advisors and 114 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: counselors supporters. All of those people are out of power. 115 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: This is the guy who in October came to Pennsylvania 116 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: to campaign for Kamala Harris in violation of our election laws. 117 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: That was foreign interference. There were British members of parliament 118 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: who did the same, labor leaders. So you got the 119 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: Obama Clinton Biden gang, the people who've been running the 120 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: country for the last four years and in large part 121 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: for law longer than that, coupled with the Republicans who 122 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: hate and secretly want this war to continue for their 123 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: own reasons. I'll remind you there's there's a video I 124 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: watched this weekend of John McCain in Kiev in twenty 125 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: thirteen talking about American assistance for Ukraine in a in 126 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: toppling the leader, the duly elected leader who was aligned 127 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: with Russia at the time. You know, it's not the 128 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: case as some will tell you, that Ukraine is somehow 129 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: some foreign country that has that Russia is trying to 130 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: keep to the core. The actual word Ukraine means the outskirt. 131 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: Ukraine was as original to the Russian Empire. And by 132 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: the way, we're proud of our country, we're proud of 133 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: our history, we're proud of our victories. The Russians are 134 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: as well, and it's immature and silly to assume that 135 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: we're getting all the information that well. I got a 136 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: story on Bert Harvey being arrested coming up. You're gonna 137 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna want to hear this. Everyone listens to Michael 138 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: Verry show. If you were a member of the RCC 139 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: in the early days and you came around much, and 140 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: especially if you were involved in helping to build it 141 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 2: or volunteer appreciation, volunteer efforts, you know Bert Harvey. The 142 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: quick story, because I want to get into the real 143 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: story is if you remember Albert Wood. I get a 144 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: call from Jeff McShann. There's an elderly man marine World 145 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: War Two veteran is how has been torn asunder. His 146 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: wife died two weeks ago. He comes home from a 147 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: doctor's appointment. Lord knows what he was doing driving at 148 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: ninety years old, ninety two, I believe, and I get 149 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: him on the phone and I decide we're going to 150 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: repair his home. Where we rebuilt his home and he 151 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: ended up being close to four hundred thousand dollars worth 152 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: of worth of things donated. The home was it was 153 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 2: a it was a It was a tired old home 154 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: that now all of a sudden was something we could 155 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: be proud that he was living in. And so many 156 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: of you participated. 157 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Well. 158 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: The day I went, I said, anybody's interested in participating? 159 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: The day I went, And in the front lawn when 160 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: I arrived, there were there were you couldn't get down 161 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: the street. It was an open ditch street and really 162 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: only a lane and a half wide, and there were 163 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: trucks everywhere. I said, look, guys, I do two shows 164 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: a day. I can't run this job. I need somebody 165 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: to be the point for this. And I figured I'd 166 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: look around and nobody want to do it. And this guy, 167 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: who I later would find out is Bird Harvey steps 168 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: forwards us. I'll do it. And he did. And he 169 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 2: did that, and shortly thereafter he left Gee and Holmes 170 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: where he was a home builder, very well regarded for 171 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: this homebuilder, and started his own construction company renovations or pairs, 172 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: those sorts of things on a shoes train. Didn't tell 173 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: me about it. Even when he left. It was a 174 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: little while l he said, I didn't want you to 175 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: worry about me. When he got on his feet, he 176 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: tells me about it. He built the RCC for me, 177 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: and he's done work for me over the years. I've 178 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: sent him to a lot of people. If obviously I 179 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: have a show sponsor, all Star Construction, and they do 180 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 2: bigger jobs, but for smaller jobs, I've always sent Burt 181 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: and he's done very well. And he's like family. I mean, 182 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: my kids have He's watched my kids grow up. You 183 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: know this is this is a guy has a key 184 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: to our home in our checkbook. You trust somebody at 185 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: that point, you like somebody. I've watched his kids grow up. 186 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: His wife Sarah and a very active member of the RCC, 187 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: and so many of you know him and have known 188 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: him over the years. Anyway, so we were set on 189 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon, we have a conversation and we're going to 190 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: meet on Friday in between the morning and the evening 191 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: show because I had a project, little project for him 192 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: to do at the studio and I wanted to see 193 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 2: what he thought about it. And he was going to 194 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: come over in the afternoon and meet me at the 195 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: studio and we would we would go over it. Well, 196 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: lo and behold, I get an email from his wife, 197 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: subject line Bert Help, and Bert had been arrested and 198 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: was in jail and we couldn't speak to him. And 199 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: that's not supposed to happen to one of my friends. Right. Well, 200 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: here's the story of Bert's thirty hours in jail. Bert 201 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: Harvey is our guest. 202 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Bert. 203 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: So Thursday night you go to a car meet at 204 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: Rudy's Barbecue and tom Ball off two forty nine. Why 205 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: don't you get us started? And I'll interrupt, right. 206 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: So, we have a little truck for my sixteen year 207 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: old Sean. We've been putting it together for him and 208 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: he likes, you know, cars like we do. So we 209 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: decided to drive from Crosby out to Tomball to have 210 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: dinner and hang out with the car meet. And we 211 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: did have dinner, and when we left, we wanted a 212 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: cruise around some more. So we drove over to my 213 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: friend Mark's tattoo shop, hitting gym Over in Cyprus and 214 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: hung out there for a little bit. He got to 215 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: be about nine o'clock and we decided let's let's go 216 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: back home. You know, kids have stuff Tomorrow, I gotta 217 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: I gotta be at work. We got to work at 218 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: Gringos the next day and all of that, and when 219 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: I was backing out of my parking space, one of 220 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: my buddies yelled, do a burnout, and I did so, 221 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: I you know, I spun the tires for ten or 222 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: fifteen feet and I drove forward and went to pull 223 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: out of the parking lot. And I looked and there 224 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: was a sheriff's officer. He had he had done a 225 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: U turn and was you know, right there. And I'm like, ah, 226 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna I'm stupid. I'm about to get a ticket. So, 227 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, I pull out and pull right back in 228 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: the parking lot and he pulls in behind me, and uh, 229 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: I turned the truck off and roll the windows down 230 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: and turn the interior life on, all the stuff you're 231 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: supposed to, you know, put my hands where he can 232 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: see them. And he comes over and ask me if 233 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: I know why why he was there, and I said 234 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: for sure, you know, yeah, I was stupid, and uh 235 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: I hand him my driver's license and my license to carry, 236 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: and he goes back to his car, and I'm my 237 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: sixteen year old sons with me, and he says, you know, Dad, 238 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I said, I We're gonna get a ticket. 239 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'll get a warning, but probably we're gonna 240 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: get ridden for this. So he comes back and he 241 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: asked me to get out of the truck, and uh, 242 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: he said, I'm going to detain you. And he puts 243 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: me in cuffs. And I thought, well, maybe he's he's 244 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a bully and show me. 245 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: You know that this isn't this isn't that light of 246 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: a thing. I should take it seriously. And he takes 247 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: me and sticks me in his car, and then I 248 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: can hear him on the on his computer. You know, 249 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: I can't see exactly what he's doing. He's up there 250 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: typing and typing and typing, and then he gets on 251 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: the phone and uh, now I know now that he 252 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: was on the phone with the DA, and he was 253 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: on the phone with the DA for a long time, 254 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: and you know. 255 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: He took my gun from me and all that in 256 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: a little while later. By long time, I think it 257 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: was forty five minutes or more. 258 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, thirty to forty five minutes to old that 259 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: he's going off the phone. 260 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: He's determined to get charges on you. 261 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: I believe so. Yes, And during this time, my wife 262 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: has walked over Sarah and another friend of mine that 263 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: was there because you know, Sean was still in the truck. 264 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: And Sean was looking at his mom like do I 265 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: get out? And she said no, no, no, you just 266 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: stay there. Do what the officer says. Well, then is 267 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Officer Jamison. So he goes over and and he gets 268 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: Sean out of the truck, and Sarah said, hey, I'm 269 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: his mom. He's sixteen, he's a minor. You know I 270 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: can take custody of him. And he said, you know, 271 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: this is my investigation. And you know that understandable. He 272 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know us, he doesn't know what's going on. So 273 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: he said, you know, get stayble and you get in tom. 274 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: I do I have tattoos? So so he put Sean 275 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: in handcuffs and I was like, oh man, this is 276 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: too far. You know, don't he's sixteen year old. But anyways, 277 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: he puts him in handcuffs and sticks him in a 278 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: car and and he gets back on the phone again, 279 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: and also because Sarah and Forrest had walked up, he 280 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: called for other units. And I don't know exactly how many. 281 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't see everything because I was in the back 282 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: of the car before us. Your friend, to be clear, 283 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: he's my friend, Yes, yes, sir, we've been for instance, 284 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: we were kids, all right. So these other units show 285 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: up and then he takes Sean out of the car 286 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: with me and stuffs him in another unit. And Sarah 287 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: was protesting, like, hey, he he was a passenger who 288 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: didn't do anything. Why do you have him detained in 289 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: handcuffs in the back of a police car. He's a kid. 290 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: And eventually he did let Sean go, but man, he 291 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: stayed on the phone, uh with this, with this da 292 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: for a long time. And then he finally comes back 293 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: and he says, I'm gonna go ahead and place you 294 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: under arrest. And really, all the way up until this point. 295 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: All that thought, all that thought, because it gets it 296 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: gets really interesting coming out here, was that just not 297 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: an option for you? I was young ambitions, Michael Berry. 298 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: I was just young and ambitious and I love women. Hey, 299 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: you came knot no man for loving women? A man. 300 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: I've got friends that dress up nice and wear a 301 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: tie and speak to Queen's English. But I got a 302 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: whole lot more friends that are plumbers and electricians and 303 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: plant workers. And if you saw the jokes they're emailing 304 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: me right now about Bert bean Intail, it's it's all 305 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: in good fun, but my goodness alive, y'all would be 306 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: very embarrassed if you knew. I will remind y'all for 307 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: those of y'all who came to the pork chop eating 308 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: contest at the RCC. We had these big pork chops 309 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: and we decided that we would have a pork shop 310 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: eating contest, and our seller Robert Reese won it. And 311 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: he didn't just win it. He ate eight of them. 312 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: And these weren't the little chiletta you get at the 313 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: little tacoia. These were big honking pork chops and he 314 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: would do a push up in between each one that 315 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: he ate. Billy Stagner came in second place with three. 316 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: To put it into perspective, and Billy can throw down 317 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: some food. There were other people in the contest, but 318 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody got above two. And then there 319 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: was Burt. Burt could You didn't have to pay to participate. 320 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: So Bert sat up there in ate one port chop 321 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: and his wife cheered from the crowd at Bert eating 322 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: his one pork chop at his own slow pace like 323 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: a baller. It ended up being the second most remarked 324 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: event of the day. The most remarked being Robert Reeese, 325 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: who said he went home and was meet sick for 326 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: twelve hours afterwards. Because that's a lot of pork chops, 327 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: all right, Bert. So now the guy's going to arrest you. 328 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: And I've spoken to criminal defense attorneys this weekend. I've 329 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: talked to Dan Cogdell, I've talked to cops. I've talked 330 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: to a lot of people with details of this case. 331 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: And this was at most a ticket, and yet you 332 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: get arrested, which we're going to find out there are 333 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: reasons for that, and this officer, Joseph Paul Jamison, should 334 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: be ashamed of himself. But all right, So he announces 335 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: to you that you're under arrest, and he reads you 336 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: your Miranda rights and take it from there. 337 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: Right. So she tells me I'm under arrest, and he's 338 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: asked me. I don't remember exactly, but I know at 339 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: this point at least once, maybe twice, what have I 340 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: ever been in trouble for? And it was in a 341 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: really accusatory way his tone. But again, he doesn't know me, 342 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: so I don't judge that, and I'm complying. I answer 343 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: him and I say, man, I haven't had a ticket. 344 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: My driving records cleaned for twenty years. Sometime in the nineties. 345 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: I don't remember the date. I had a traffic ticket 346 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: that I didn't pay and it turned into a warrant 347 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: and I got stopped again for bad registration or whatever, 348 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: and I got arrested for it, and you know, and 349 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: I was out the next day. And that's it. I've 350 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: never been in trouble for anything. Nothing. And you know me, 351 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm a friend of the police. If I'd have seen 352 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Deputy Jamison at Rudy's that night, I would have bought 353 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: his dinner and told him, hey, thanks for the job 354 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: you're doing. And so he tells me I'm under arrest, 355 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: and you know, he won't. I asked him, you know, 356 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: can you let my wife or my friends take the truck? 357 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: And he says, nope, we're towing it. And I asked 358 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: you if he'd put it on a flat bed so 359 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: he wouldn't damage it, and he wouldn't do that, and whatever. 360 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: That's all fine, But so where he's taken me to 361 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: jail and we're we're on the way to Cyprus. Would 362 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: and he asked me again, and and the way the 363 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: he says, who's handled you before, and that's something I've 364 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: never heard, but I assumed he meant where I've been, 365 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, locked up or in jail, and I said, nowhere. 366 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: I've never been, never been in trouble for anybody, and 367 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: he kind of nodded his head, you know, hmm. And 368 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: and we get to Cypress Wood and. 369 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: We go in and. 370 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: And the the booking officer was there and he you know, 371 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: checks me and searches me, and h takes my shoes 372 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: off and has me sit down and does smoke shots 373 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: and fingerprints and and him and Deputy Jamison are going 374 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: back and forth talking while while we're doing this, and 375 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 1: the booking officers is asking me questions, you know, verify 376 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: your address, verify your social and all these different things. 377 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: And he sees the mare asked me about when I 378 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: was arrested in the nineties, and I explained it to him. 379 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I see that here. And he said, well, 380 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: that's all I see on you. And I said, yes, sir, 381 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: that's it. And then Jamison speaks up and says, well, 382 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: are you going to tell him about Ohio? And I said, 383 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about Ohio. And he 384 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: tells j officer or Deputy Jamison tells the booking officer 385 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: he's got d w i's and some kind of domestic 386 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: violence and assault, and there's a sealed FBI or there's 387 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: an FBI file that I couldn't open in Ohio. And 388 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: my mind is racing, going what is he talking about 389 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: right now? I mean, heck, I might have driven through 390 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: Ohio before on the way, you know, to New York 391 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: or something like that, but I have no business in Ohio. 392 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: And so the booking officer starts really digging in his 393 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: computer and asking me more questions to verify who I am, 394 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: and we do and and he says, and at this time, 395 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: Deputy Jamison is doing uh he's around the corner. I 396 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: can't exactly see him, but he's on another computer doing 397 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: a report. And I don't know if he did two 398 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: reports or if it's a two part report. But the 399 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: booking officer says, hey, did you already send that? And 400 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: he goes, well, I sent the first places sent or saved, 401 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: but I haven't done a second. When yet he goes, hey, 402 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: don't send that. Hold on, stop, don't send it. He said, 403 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: I can't find any of that in here. I think 404 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: there's a mistake. And Jamison says, no, no, no, it's 405 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: there for sure. It's there. And he says he says, well, 406 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: I can't find it here. And he goes, it's still 407 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: up in my unit, in my patrol unit on the computer. 408 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: And he goes, well, why don't you go back out 409 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: there and double check that. So he goes outside and 410 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: you know, just being the booking officer sitting there, and 411 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: he goes, man, this doesn't seem something's not something's not 412 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: right between these two computer systems. And I told him, 413 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: I can assure you it's a mistaken identity. That is 414 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: not meth Something happened. And Jamison comes back in and 415 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: he says, yeah, I figured it out. I don't. I 416 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: couldn't hear him really well. Either said I transposed a 417 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: birthday or a number. He did something wrong when he 418 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: entered it. And he found this Robert Harvey in Ohio. 419 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: And so they both go over to the computer that 420 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: Deputy Jamison was doing the report on and they were 421 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: trying to go back to take it off of what 422 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: he had already submitted, and the system wouldn't let him backtrack. 423 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: They couldn't do it. It was already gone, and he looked 424 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: and he finished his report, but he said, well, don't 425 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: send this one with it, so he took it off 426 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: of whatever it was he was currently working on to 427 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: finish it. And I, you know, I'm like, hey, guys, so, 428 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: what's what's the deal with that? And you know, with 429 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: my charges? And he says, well, you're still charged, and 430 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: you're still under arrest, you know, Jamison for for reckless driving. 431 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: And and this is the thing that really has me concerned. 432 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: He's charging me with unlawful carry of a weapon. And 433 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: I told him I have a licensed to carry that's current, 434 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: and I've never been in trouble. I don't have any FELLO, 435 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: any any kind of criminal record. So now in Texas 436 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: even constitutional carry both ways, I can have my weapon 437 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: on me and I was completely compliant. 438 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: Hold right there, Hold her right there. More of this story, 439 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 2: this crazy story with Bert Harvey coming up, Trump Partland 440 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: to Walbany, all great cities in between. The Michael Barry 441 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: Show is nationwide. I told my wife that we were 442 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: going to start calling you into jail birds, Harvey. She 443 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: didn't think that was very funny because she's very protective 444 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: of Burt. So to catch you up to speed if 445 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: you just tuned in about our friend Bert Harvey and 446 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: him being jailed for over thirty hours. He's pulling out 447 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: of a parking lot with the sixteen year old son 448 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: in the truck and he doesn't burn out because there 449 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: at a car show car gathering at Rudy's Barbecue out 450 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: off two forty nine, and there's a cop who doesn't 451 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 2: see it, but here's it pulls up and when he 452 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: runs the record, he puts in the wrong Robert Harvey 453 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: because Bert Harvey is actually Robert Harvey, and he puts 454 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: in the wrong Robert Harvey, gets the wrong birthdate. And 455 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: Robert Harvey in Ohio is a bad guy. He's got 456 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: a history of assault DUI domestic violence, and I believe 457 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: there's more than one blessed domestic vince. I don't have 458 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 2: the report in front of me, but I have the report, 459 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: and he's got an FBI file. This is a bad guy, 460 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: a very bad guy, the kind of guy that we 461 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: get angry when they get released. So he thinks he's 462 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: got a bad guy and he's just got him for 463 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: what would otherwise just be a ticketable defense called it 464 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: reckless driving. It's just a burnout. He just burned the tires. 465 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: So he brings him to Soprswood substation, where the other 466 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: officer runs it and says, no, no, no, no, this 467 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: isn't that guy. The officer, Deputy J. Jamison, Harris County 468 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: Shriff's deputy says, oh, you're right, it's not that Bird Harvey, 469 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: or it's not that Robert Harvey. At that point, the 470 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: right thing to do is go, sir, I brought you 471 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: down here, not for all that I bought you. Brought 472 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: you down here because I thought you were a really 473 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: bad guy. I was doing my job. I apologize. Can 474 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: I buy you a cup of coffee? That's the right 475 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: thing to do. He made a mistake, and guess what, 476 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. And that does not make Jamison a 477 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: bad guy. But from this point forward he's a bad 478 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: guy because rather than admit his mistake, what does he do? 479 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: He pushes on, Well, we're still gonna get you for 480 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: reckless driving. That's the burnout in a private parking lot 481 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: where the people were up on the curb because they 482 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: begged him to do it. He gets him for failure 483 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: to signal, failure to signal coming out onto a one 484 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: way street. Was anybody doubting he was going to the 485 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: left if you know where that is, you can only 486 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 2: go northwest on two forty nine at that spot. You 487 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: can't go anywhere else. Failure to signal, attacking crap on. 488 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: And the worst part the gun charge. And Burt, why 489 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: don't you explain what he said was the reason for 490 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: the gun charge. 491 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he told me that because I was endangering people's 492 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: lives and other motor vehicles. He also on his report 493 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: he put in that I was doing donuts and circles 494 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: burning out and why was not There's a video what 495 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: I did. It's a little ten or fifteen foot straight 496 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: line burnout and I turned out of the parking lot. 497 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: And also in the video you can see him. I'm 498 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: pointing I guess north northwest, and he's going south on 499 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: the other side of the road, and he rolls up 500 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: to the light, so I'm actually he's behind me facing 501 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: the other direction, but he heard me, so he couldn't 502 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: see me anyway, but he heard it. And then he 503 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: did a direct U turn and that's where he pulled 504 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: me over. And you know, instead of the report just 505 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: saying that I had spun my tires or done a burnout. 506 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: His report says that I was doing donuts in a 507 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: parking line, which I. 508 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: Didn't, which is not true, and we have video. But 509 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: by the way, we have the video of them. It's 510 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: a rather unimpressive burnout, for all the for all the 511 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: problems it's casted, your truth be told. We can get 512 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: to why that is in just a moment. But I'm 513 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: told the unlawful carrying of a weapon the u c 514 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: W is because you're you're possessing a gun even if 515 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: you have a license or even in a constitutional carry 516 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: while committing a crime, which the crime is the reckless driving. 517 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm also told by officers DA's criminal defense attorneys alike 518 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: that this would never be charged, that this this nobody 519 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: would would bring that gun charge for a burnout, as 520 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: if you were using the gun to in some way 521 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: additionally endanger people who got in front of you while 522 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: you did while you basically uh, you know, burning the tires, 523 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: all right, So now they take you down. The decision 524 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: is made. Uh, we're the one guy at Cyprus would 525 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: say it's not a good decision. The deputy he's in 526 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: deep now, so he's going to push this thing on 527 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: so now they tell what happens from there. 528 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so after this revelation, I'm hoping in the back 529 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: of my mind that maybe he's going to say, hey, 530 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 1: let me call the DA back and give all the 531 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: information now, and maybe i'd get cut loose. I called 532 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: somebody to come pick me up and pay three hundred 533 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: bucks to get my truck out of jail, and that'd 534 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: be the end of the night. But nope, no, that 535 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: wasn't the case. So they put me in a cell 536 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: and wait and transport comes, and then they transport us downtown. 537 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: We get downtown, and you know, they shackle you. They 538 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: put shackles on your feet and handcuffs on you, and 539 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: you all go in a chain game line. 540 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: And I think it's worth noting, because Jamison's the only 541 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: bad guy in all this, that you did tell me that, 542 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: because I made a note that the van ride, you 543 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: normally get carsick, but the driver was a really good driver, 544 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: and you complimented him on being a good driver. 545 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: I sure did so, sitting in the cell thinking about 546 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: the ride, I've seen those vands going down the road 547 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: and you're in a combined space with noe windows, and uh, 548 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, I know it's bumpy, and I'm like, man, 549 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: I hope this guy is not on the gas. Off 550 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: the gas, you know, hard turning. It would suck to 551 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: get sick. And no, this dude smooth, smooth, smooth, so correct. 552 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: And uh, you know they take your take your your 553 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: shirt and your shoes and give you a orange shirt 554 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: and give you some crocs and get you upstairs, and uh, 555 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: there's all the guys around me. Most everybody I talked 556 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: to was there for either a d w I or 557 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: small amounts of drugs, mostly weed, or they had violated 558 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: something while they were on probation or parole with weed 559 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: or alcohol or whatever. And they were all laughing about 560 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: my charge. Ah ha ha, you got put in jail 561 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: for a burnout. They didn't believe it that. They were like, 562 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. There's no way you're here for that, and. 563 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: We're uh. 564 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: The jail was a surprise for me when we got upstairs. 565 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: It's a big room, maybe ten thousand square feet, may 566 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: be a little more, and it has rows of chairs 567 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: the same things you would have in the airport terminal, 568 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, the just a row of five or ten 569 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: chairs with the metal arm rests between them. But they're 570 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: not padded. There's carpet on the floor and it's just 571 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: wide open and everybody sits down. And the other thing 572 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: that surprised me there's blue chairs and there's some maroon 573 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: red chairs. The men and the women are in the 574 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: same room together, so you're you're in jail together. The 575 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: uh you know, you walk around and talk to people. 576 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: There's lots of phones. You can use the phone anytime 577 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: you want. And it is it's slow in there. Everything 578 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: is is takes a long time, everything measured in hours. 579 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: Hold on just a second. Burt Bert Harvey's Tails from 580 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: Jail will continue. We have hosted to the website at 581 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: Michael Berryshow dot com. Once he got out and we 582 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: were okay with all this, although the gun charge does 583 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: obviously worry him. We had a lot of conversations over 584 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: the weekend about a free Burt movement, and we have 585 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: a graphic created and shirts and mugs and the like 586 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: being made. If you go to Michael Berryshow dot com 587 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: and go to our merchandise page, you can see it 588 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: for yourself and all proceeds whatever they may be for 589 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: this line, which normally would go to Ramon and Jim 590 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: and Darryl and Chad will go to the Bert Harvey 591 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: Defense Fund so that he can buy his gun back. 592 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: By the way, it's eight hundred dollars gun and he's 593 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: not really happy he doesn't have it, but more with 594 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 2: him coming up,