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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Segura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's are.

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Speaker 3: Alive on a first Friday miracle edition of the program.

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Speaker 3: Merely Bo the great Z. How you doing well?

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Speaker 2: I've been dealing with a back ailman, but apparently I'm

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Speaker 2: doing better than you. Wait, what's going Tell the people

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Speaker 2: to happen here. I'm a maze.

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Speaker 3: You're down the guy laughing and breathing. So I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's I don't think you have a broken rib.

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Speaker 3: I definitely don't. I don't think it's a broken rib.

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Speaker 3: I do think that there has been perhaps some sort

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Speaker 3: of jostling or jarring of my rib cage that incurred

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Speaker 3: when we did not have enough humans.

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Speaker 2: Not for the sixth grade. You're in a high stakes

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Speaker 2: rec league. No, and a guy who played D one

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Speaker 2: ball about six seven two forty five elbowed you in

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Speaker 2: your ribs and now you're now you're on the shelf, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's a more glorious view of rather what feels to

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Speaker 3: me like a cracked rib from a sixth grader feels

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's probably a better story.

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Speaker 2: I mean he winged me. He got me good. I

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Speaker 2: mean it was a direct hit. It was a direct hit.

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Speaker 3: We were working on a trap drill and I came

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Speaker 3: up to trap. We were down a couple of kids,

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Speaker 3: so we had a couple of coaches to help, and

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Speaker 3: it was a direct hit, and it kind of was

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Speaker 3: a I knew it was gonna hurt.

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Speaker 2: How did you sell it in front of the kids

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Speaker 2: or Oh no, completely, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I'll never hear this. Yeah, but yeah, no it was Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I acted like it was nothing.

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Speaker 2: You come home, that was Did the blonde tend to

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Speaker 2: your wound? I mean, you're you're tending to anywhere like

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Speaker 2: a wounded deer. No, come on, it's just sympathy. Children.

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Speaker 2: We travel tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they have testing, Like come on, No, I

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Speaker 3: get there's no attention given to me.

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Speaker 2: I care.

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Speaker 3: I know that you do, and I appreciate it despite

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Speaker 3: your cackling.

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Speaker 2: I do appree, I think, but I can understand how

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Speaker 2: genuine concern for me. Sixth graders the elbow would come,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine to a very sharp point. He does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a formidable sixth grader. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: clear they work out now they do they lift, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: lifting now lifting this summer they go do that, so

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, so that that does not stunt

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Speaker 3: their growth anymore.

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Speaker 2: That was when we were kids. That was ald things

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Speaker 2: like you weren't allowed to lift until you were.

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't think it's very smart to be lifting

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Speaker 3: at this age other than body weight. Talking to the

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Speaker 3: people that I've talked to about it, that it should

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Speaker 3: just be body weight really until like high school.

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Speaker 2: There was this guy and ars played for Saint Beds

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Speaker 2: and his name was Booby, and he looked like he

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Speaker 2: was built. I'm trying to think of like you remember

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Speaker 2: Dale Davis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember Dale Davis.

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Speaker 2: He was built like Dale Davis in the fifth grade,

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Speaker 2: worked out, form lifted, he was He also was built

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Speaker 2: not grow beyond, did not grow beyond. Yes, maybe got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nuts, everybody's got that guy.

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Speaker 2: Yea, who that was the peak. He was a better

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Speaker 2: like body guy that I could dale David Davis a

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Speaker 2: correct one. He was the body guy. That's the correct rip.

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Speaker 2: I also think, as you were saying that, you mentioned

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Speaker 2: his name was Booby. I've come to the conclusion having

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was Bob Miles, Booby Gibson. Like if you're

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Speaker 3: if that's this movie.

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Speaker 2: He was very formidable. Yeah, you're formidable if you're gonna

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Speaker 2: go with with that nick You didn't go into the

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Speaker 3: No, you're not going in there.

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Speaker 2: So you had none of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's a we'll have the father Son game

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Speaker 3: for that age group will happen in like two weeks.

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Speaker 2: We did the fourth grade one on Monday. Again.

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Speaker 3: I think they have like those flak jackets that the

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Speaker 2: I'm getting one of those. We got to get you

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Speaker 2: whether your name is like Joe Garrett or Miles Thomas.

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Speaker 2: You can get the same level of service. Get me

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Speaker 2: in there. We know some people get it, get.

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Speaker 3: It worked out. See what we got going on.

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Speaker 2: Please wear the flat. We had a former quarterback. You

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Speaker 2: sometimes wear the huge flat.

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Speaker 3: That's what I want.

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Speaker 2: Hilarious, look, I'd love you to wear. Can I do that?

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Speaker 3: I wonder if there's one down there. I wonder if

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Speaker 3: Melan's got one out and borrowing throwing could get me

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Speaker 3: one to wear?

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Speaker 2: Man, amazing to show up at that show up the

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Speaker 2: next practice. Yeah, they didn't. They don't know.

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Speaker 3: They don't know what happened. Happy Valentine's Day, boys, Yeah, happy, Sure,

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Speaker 3: it's nice, it's nice. How do you guys? Do do

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Speaker 3: you feel like you did a good job this morning

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Speaker 2: So we take Valentine's Day off because tomorrow is our

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Speaker 2: wedding anniversary? Happy early anniversary. Yeah, tomorrowly five years.

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Speaker 3: I do believe it because it was the first year

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Speaker 3: that I after I did the first season, and that

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Speaker 3: was it, so that you were planning it in that

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Speaker 2: But it is tomorrow, five years and then we head

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Speaker 2: back to uh, the side of the nuptials in Scottsdale

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. That's perfect. I love that. That's that's perfect. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's good. How did you do?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Did you get two gifts? No?

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Speaker 3: I think that the held you. Why would they take

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Speaker 2: Because she didn't she was happy with the first one? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You're going to need another one for Susie at some

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Speaker 3: point the second, Like, yeah, it's not plausible that you

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Speaker 3: Why not have that as a backup plan?

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Speaker 2: I liked it. Get two gifts. If she likes the

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Speaker 2: doesn't like the first one, you're like, oh, well I

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Speaker 2: also got you this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that didn't make sense knowing her the

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Speaker 3: way that those two should have. You keep that for

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Speaker 3: when you screw up later on that day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I also thought, and so I rewatched yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I actually laughed more the second time.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed some much better than the first one.

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Speaker 2: But to the point of they're dropping a casual five

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Speaker 2: six hundred bucks on a jacket purse whatever, like it

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Speaker 2: There's no scaredy advice. It was more than like the

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Speaker 3: I mean that that airbnb in Atlanta, it can't be

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Speaker 3: and his his budget for an airbnb would be more

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Speaker 3: wherever he wanted to be. Like the fact that he

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Speaker 2: The truth is he probably would be in Atlanta, staying

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Speaker 3: Of those same regions of the Four Seasons or whatever

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Speaker 3: going to be dealing with this nonsense.

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Speaker 2: It's just funny though some of the hoops that they

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Speaker 3: It was two episodes in a row, yes, where they

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Speaker 3: jumped through extraordinary hoops to tell one joke. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I while the joke was it's a it's a joke,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that. The payoff was worse. The juice

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you it was a joke just for him

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Speaker 2: that when he talks to the guy about Camon Bear

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Speaker 2: a little truffle oil, just like I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what you're talking about. That was and the miracle on

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Speaker 2: thirty fourth Street line was amazing. Yeah, that was very

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Speaker 2: like if that was you, nobody would care.

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Speaker 3: Nobody would care. That was I think I texted you

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Speaker 3: that was.

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Speaker 2: That was. That was very I enjoyed that one. That

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Speaker 2: made me laugh. That was solid. We have go ahead

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Speaker 3: News looks like reportedly Reportedly yes, Ben Blum expected to

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Speaker 3: join Bill Callahan's staff in Tennessee as an offensive uh

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Speaker 3: linebacker coach. Actually not Bill Callahan's staff, Brian Callahan's staff.

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Speaker 3: Bill Callahan was here.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's that's one of the

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Speaker 2: things that's going to be that's probably going to be hard,

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Speaker 2: that's going to happen more often than he would like.

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Speaker 3: If you're Brian, Yes, yes, yes, for sure, because it

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Speaker 3: will feel I mean it's it will feel that way.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Bill is I think overjoyed about

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Speaker 2: how cool the opportunity is to go work with his son,

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Speaker 2: and so maybe he has He would approach it deferently

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Speaker 2: than either of our our fathers were, and Brian clearly

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Speaker 2: approached it differently than we would.

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Speaker 3: They obviously have better relationships than you and I have

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Speaker 3: with ours. I wonder if the I wonder if the.

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Speaker 5: By the way I I we we can get rid

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Speaker 5: of the speculation. The Titans put out the release and

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Speaker 5: on the website.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well the next we got a new big reportedly

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Speaker 2: real quick.

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Speaker 3: I want to put a final ribbon on the Ben

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Speaker 3: Bill Callahan Ben Bloom part of this.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss Ben Blom. Can you say that? I

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Speaker 2: think takes twenty minutes. I'm gonna miss Ben. The off

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Speaker 2: season I really enjoyed him. No, he was just saying live,

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Speaker 5: No, I was just yelling take twenty five. Take there,

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Speaker 5: do that fine, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: That was always the signal in TV for when they

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Speaker 3: I've told you guys before, be like, oh yeah, we

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Speaker 3: This guy's got a little smoke to whoever this guy is,

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Speaker 5: And that's taking a program like that that doesn't have

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Speaker 7: twenty two. That was his first head coaching gig and

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Speaker 7: he was an assistant at a lot of places before that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he was most recent Okay, so his first

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Speaker 3: head Okay, So he was at Akron as assistant from

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Speaker 3: five to ten. Started out Worcester as an assistant. He

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Speaker 3: played at and Wisconsin. He was there for seven years.

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Speaker 2: Underboulder Damn Brot at Akron.

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Speaker 3: Then yeah, so that that would have been it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I knew he had Ohio ties. So Gates is at Missouri.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, all right, so you know that you

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Speaker 3: need you need somebody who can flip it in a hurry.

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Speaker 3: It's college sports. Is It's a brutal gig right now, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's awful.

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Speaker 2: It feels like every year it's a constant quest to

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Speaker 2: maintain and reload.

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Speaker 3: And there's no contract no, So imagine if every year

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Speaker 3: AB had to renegotiate with every player on the team

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Speaker 3: every year.

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Speaker 2: It's untenable. It is. It is.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, did you see what ESPN's given

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Speaker 3: for the college football Playoff just for the playoff? No,

461
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Speaker 3: seven point eight billion over six years. What seven point

462
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Speaker 3: eight billion over six years? They're the college Football Playoff

463
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Speaker 3: is going to make one point three billion a year

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Speaker 3: on the television rights just to the playoff.

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Speaker 2: So yep, that means ESPN is going to get every game.

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Speaker 3: They're going to get every game of the playoff, of

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Speaker 3: the playoff, including the National twelve team Playoff, get those

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Speaker 3: first fourth round for four first round games, four quarterfinals,

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Speaker 3: two semi finals, one championship game. They've got them all at.

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Speaker 2: One point in three.

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Speaker 3: They've doubled their money just on that.

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Speaker 2: So that's one hundred million a game. Yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: And they're the other thing that's is there, there's not

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Speaker 3: even The crazy thing is that's not even their television package.

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Speaker 3: Their television package is separate. So that's just for the.

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Speaker 2: Playoff, correct, Yeah, right, for eleven games. Eleven game, they're

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Speaker 2: paying one point three billion, I mean one point one.

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Speaker 2: Would you say it's seven point eight over six? Seven

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Speaker 2: point eight or six, So they're paying one point three

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Speaker 2: billion a year for eleven games. Yep. That's over like

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Speaker 2: one hundred million million and change per game, per game. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what college football has become.

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Speaker 2: What are like the what was just to give me

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Speaker 2: an apples and apples, what was the rating for the

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Speaker 2: National Championship compared to the rating for the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think I want to say the National Championship was

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Speaker 3: in the twenty some millions, twenty five million something like that.

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Speaker 3: So the Super Bowl then, oh gosh, yes, and even

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Speaker 3: either like the conference championship games are double are worth

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Speaker 3: a gajillion. They're double it. But here's the thing you

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Speaker 3: have to remember. Not everybody can get in on the

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Speaker 3: NFL that's spread out to so many places. So what's

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Speaker 3: the next best thing that we can spend money on? This?

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Speaker 3: This is the next best thing we can do. It's

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Speaker 3: bigger than the NBA, it's bigger than the NHL, Major

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Speaker 3: League Baseball. It annihilates them and they're not even organized.

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Speaker 3: They're not even organized. They're all fighting individually. They're not

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Speaker 3: even on the same page. They're all negotiating individually. Imagine

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Speaker 3: if they actually got together and collectively organized what they

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Speaker 3: would be worth. But they've never done that.

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Speaker 5: Twenty eight million watching the National Championship game.

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Speaker 2: That's good number. It's a great number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's Michigan and Washington watch twenty eight million?

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Speaker 2: Is it the NBA Finals?

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Speaker 5: Half of what the AFC or NFC Championship game?

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Speaker 3: Right, And it's probably triple the average for the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 5: Yes, because these idiots continue to put it on Monday night,

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Speaker 5: which doesn't he.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's another thing, like they Yeah, that's the other

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Speaker 3: part of it is that they've never actually been any

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Speaker 3: point where it makes sense they put it Monday night

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Speaker 3: Saturday of course, of course Saturday at six thirty. But

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Speaker 3: they need the NFL to give them their saturdays so

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Speaker 3: that they can do it, which I think just have

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Speaker 3: that conversation to say, we're the second most popular sport.

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Speaker 3: We're giving you ready made stars. Give us three saturdays

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Speaker 3: in December so we can play this thing out and

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Speaker 3: be done before you start, and then your playoff will

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Speaker 3: lead right into yours. And to me, the NFL, I

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Speaker 3: understand the NFL once and their partners want to spread

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Speaker 3: this stuff all out on all these dates, but like

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Speaker 3: it feels like.

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Speaker 2: It be a win win for everybody. Yeah, so I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know that's nuts though when you think about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 3: All right, so we've got Brownie Awards. We have the

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Speaker 3: finals of the Game of the Year, so we will

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Speaker 3: have that Before we get to that though that I

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Speaker 2: These are your this is your finalists, this is it.

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Speaker 2: This is it.

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Speaker 3: But I would not have had this by the way,

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Speaker 3: that Ravens game has a lot of cachet. People have

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Speaker 3: a lot of lot of juice and beating the Ravens, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that carried a lot a lot of weights.

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Speaker 2: Voting was you better believe.

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Speaker 3: It because it was a beatdown. It was fifty nine

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Speaker 3: percent to forty one percent. Greg Newsom's pick six versus

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Speaker 3: the Ravens beat Miles's strip sack touchdown versus the Colts

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Speaker 3: fifty nine percent to forty one percent. And then I

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Speaker 3: think what we've all said all along with the prohibitive favorite,

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Speaker 3: which is Miles's blockfield goal against Indy, it beats the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs angry run versus Baltimore sixty one percent to thirty

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Speaker 3: nine percent.

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Speaker 4: So that is big.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought.

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Speaker 3: I think there's an incredible affinity for the Chief.

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Speaker 2: Of course there's and I think that the fact that

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Speaker 2: Uno on that one cut it properly, so you could

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Speaker 2: have the he wore Geno Stone like a backpack. You

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Speaker 2: think the audio played in and I thing it helped.

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Speaker 3: I think it did, all right. So do we have these?

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Speaker 3: Are these? We have them?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: So let's start. Let's relive them. Here is Miles's block

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Speaker 3: field goal versus Indy.

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Speaker 8: Sanchez kneels at midfield for this, Gay's gonna try it

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Speaker 8: from sixty, It's blocked ball, loose fight fourteen, Ward picks

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Speaker 8: it up ward, running across the Indianapolis thirty.

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Speaker 2: That was Miles Garrett that blocked that field goal. And

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Speaker 2: earlier this week Mamma vent drew and after he had

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Speaker 2: his presser within our booth and I said, man, Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 2: how about that? He said, We're gonna b lock a

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Speaker 2: kick this week. He called it. Miles goes in blocks it,

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Speaker 2: Denzel scoops it, and the Browns in business. That's absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 2: When he was in high school, I think one year

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Speaker 2: he blocked nine kicks and set a record in Texas

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Speaker 2: just eight jumps right over. He jumped right over the center.

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Speaker 8: He went Superman, no contact and Miles Garrett blocked it.

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Speaker 3: Great job, everybody, O one. So that has been the

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Speaker 3: one seed. How would we put the the Greg Newsom

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Speaker 3: pick six? I would have it like a seven seed.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's like six or seven seed.

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Speaker 2: That's like a Virginia Commonwealth before they became like a

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Speaker 2: perennial player. Yeah, yeah, little little Cinderella the way through.

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Speaker 2: Who is George Mason? George Mason made a run to

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Speaker 2: the fire four? Didn't?

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Speaker 3: Did San Diego State make the final four?

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Speaker 2: Last year?

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Speaker 6: San Diego State was a national runner up.

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Speaker 3: National runner up. They were good and got them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I want to say Florida Atlantic.

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Speaker 6: They were in the final four.

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Speaker 3: They were a final four team last year.

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Speaker 6: There's your head coach?

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Speaker 2: Where's he? Who's that?

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Speaker 6: Dusty May, head coach in Florida Atlantic.

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Speaker 3: Give me a little give me a little bag.

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Speaker 2: It was a little UNO scouting report one Final four.

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Speaker 6: Yep, yep, I'll get you the rest.

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Speaker 3: Of the ties to this part of the country at all.

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Speaker 6: I have no idea, but we gotta have just a

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Speaker 6: good name.

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Speaker 3: Us name, Dusty May is a very good name. That's

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Speaker 3: just like uh my boy in Righteous Gemstones. Was it

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Speaker 3: dusted diamond or dust was that his name?

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Speaker 7: One hundred and twenty and sixty five as a coach,

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Speaker 7: four and one in the NCAA Tournament Conference USA Tournament

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Speaker 7: Champion and then the final four last year from Peoria, Illinois.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Midwest that you got a chance dust Indiana,

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Speaker 3: Dusty Daniels, Me and Dustin Daniels.

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Speaker 2: It was a nast week guy.

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Speaker 3: We threw caution to the wind. Remember it is why

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Speaker 3: two k they threw caution to the wind. Do you

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Speaker 3: remember this? Did you get this far in?

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Speaker 4: Now? Now?

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Speaker 2: I've only started this. No, I've only started season three.

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Speaker 2: I've only started season three. I got two play flights

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Speaker 2: coming up. I'm gonna finish it on my playflights. I

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Speaker 2: can't wait. Well, uncle baby Billy and Dusty Daniel, I

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Speaker 2: can tell it his uncle baby Billy from that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they that what a great line it was.

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Speaker 3: It was y two k we threw caution the wind.

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Speaker 3: All right, here's your uh, your matchup for Miles's blockfield goal.

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Speaker 3: It's the great news and Pixies versus the Ravens.

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Speaker 9: Clock winds under eight and a half to play here

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Speaker 9: in the fourth quarter. Jackson adjust his wristbands as he

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Speaker 9: settles into the shotgun, takes the snap, looks to his right,

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Speaker 9: ball a swatted high in the air, and it.

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Speaker 10: Is intercepted by the Browns Greg Newsome along the sidelines

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Speaker 10: into the end zone. Touchdown Cleveland thirty three yards off

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Speaker 10: the deflection at the line of scrimmage, no penalty flags.

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Speaker 2: It was a huge play because that game felt like

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Speaker 2: it was over if I'm pretty sure I have the

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Speaker 2: timeline on that right that right before that Prochet had

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Speaker 2: fumbled the punt, they had scored. There was like a

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Speaker 2: two score lead with ten minutes to go, felt insurmountable.

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Speaker 2: And then you got the pick. We got Gregg's pick six,

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Speaker 2: which was a massive, massive play, first interception of his career. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that game does have a lot of juice to people

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Speaker 2: because that was the As I think about it more,

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Speaker 2: it's not so much the Ravens. You know, we beat

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Speaker 2: the Niners, but we beat the Niners and it wasn't

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Speaker 2: like our team that was minus Nick Chubb that felt

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Speaker 2: like it was our team. It was Dashawn and it

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Speaker 2: was Amari, and it was the Chief, and it was

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Speaker 2: Dustin Hopkins and it was the defense. And that was

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Speaker 2: the one where you won it and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: now we're real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And it's a win over them at their

660
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: place and they end up being the number one seed.

661
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: So it checks those boxes. So it ends up being

662
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: defense versus defense. Yep, that's that's where we end up.

663
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: So it ends up defenses versus defense. For the Brownie wards,

664
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: we'll get those out. Got him out and give he's

665
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: got them out, and so there you go. That's the

666
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: way that will go. What would have been your top

667
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: two seeds if you were Joe Lenardi and you were

668
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: putting this together, who would have been your top two seeds?

669
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Speaker 2: The Miles field goal block against Indy, and I think

670
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: Flacco's passed to Amari against the Bears. Yeah, yeah, that one.

671
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: I think because it was the Bears and you were

672
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: expected to win, you forget how that all happened and

673
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: how it went.

674
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: We're down seventeen to seven through a pick at their

675
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: goal line on a pass for the Chief that he

676
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: entered threw, and then the fourth quarter he got red hot,

677
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: hit a bomb, a good win, we score. Then he

678
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: hits the Amari one, which was just an unreal play. Yeah,

679
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: pulls her up, holes her up now. Yeah, those two

680
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,239
Speaker 2: and I thought, honestly, I'm shocked that Flacco getting hit

681
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: in the head, rolling out left getting it to Jerome Ford, rumbling, bumbling,

682
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: stumbling through everything because it was the Thursday night game,

683
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: that that didn't make it even in the Final four.

684
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, true, I don't know that. Yeah, it's interesting how

685
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: this has played out, like it depends on who you're

686
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: matching up against, you know, Like the Chief angry run

687
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: was great, great, and that that to me feels like

688
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: a Final four type play totally. The Miles feels like,

689
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: I agree with you on the Amari. The Flacco Amari.

690
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: Throw maybe the four winning and I think that the

691
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: walkoff game winner against the Steeling.

692
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: Heelers for Hopkins. Yes, yeah, I think it's so much

693
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: emotion there was. Yeah, that was a and they will

694
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: forget that. That one felt they did it. That one

695
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: felt like a that felt like a season saving totally

696
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: because of what had happened that week, everything leading into it.

697
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: That felt like, so you're saying there's a chance and

698
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: dtr is the one who left the game winning drive

699
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: like all of it.

700
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's this is an interesting season to

701
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: try to put into perspective because of all of those

702
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: things though.

703
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, all right.

704
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: We will continue our position reviews, actually will start them.

705
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: We will start at the quarterback position. Take a look

706
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: at what happened this year at the quarterback position a

707
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: lot obviously, what we think it could look like this

708
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Speaker 3: offseason and into next season. I have some questions for

709
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Speaker 3: it as well. We'll get all of that coming up next.

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Speaker 3: beginning our position reviews for the twenty twenty three season,

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Speaker 3: and we start at the quarterback position. Before we get

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Speaker 3: into it, let's take a look back and have a listen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, listen.

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Speaker 11: You can't say enough about what this team's done all year,

732
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 11: just losing guys and continuing to succeed, you know, whether

733
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 11: it's the run game or the offensive line, whatever it

734
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 11: may be. I think you've got to give the coaching

735
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 11: staff and all the guys in there a ton of

736
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 11: credit for how they they've been able to maintain their

737
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 11: focus and still have the belief.

738
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 12: O wide left with Cooper two to the right, play

739
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 12: action fake as Flacco drifts right pros and he's got.

740
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 13: Cooper upen Hey caught it twenty fifteen ten five touchdown.

741
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: I don't believe it.

742
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 13: Cooper open and Cooper tightrope walks down the sideline tippy.

743
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: Toes in what a throw by Joe Flacco. There weren't

744
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: one two, there were three bears there, threats the needle,

745
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: the bears running to each other, and Cooper tight ropes

746
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: down the sideline.

747
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 14: Just be me, And you know, I don't want to

748
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 14: return as a guy he's I want to be better

749
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 14: than that guy. So what I was maybe twenty twenty three,

750
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 14: three years ago, I'm not the same guy. So I

751
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 14: feel like I've improved, I've involved to a new level,

752
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 14: and I'm ready to be able to show that. You know,

753
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 14: you know last year was a tricky time where you

754
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 14: know I was learning everything, But you know, I don't

755
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 14: want to just get caught up on, Hey, Houston, this

756
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 14: Houston that you know. I had a lot of fun,

757
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 14: a lot of success in Houston, but I want to

758
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 14: have that success and start something to do with Cleveland.

759
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 12: Second and fifteen, Watson under center, with Ford in the backfield,

760
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 12: fake handoff, Watson looking down the middle.

761
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: He's got Cooper White up in pour touchdown.

762
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 12: And Cooper finally has that score with DeShawn Watson.

763
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: As you pointed out, should have been the second touchdown.

764
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: But can I interest you Browns fans everywhere? It's now

765
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: no Nick Chubb. It's Deshaun Watson. Twenty seven of thirty three,

766
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty nine yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions,

767
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 2: a rating of one twenty three point four.

768
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: Duo Ford in the backfield, but quarterback to Shawn Watson

769
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Speaker 4: for the Browns and watching looking to pass from his

770
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: thirty nine. Watson will hoist that one deep down the

771
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: right side of the field and it is caught by

772
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: Cooper taking down to the five of Arizona. Big hook

773
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: up Deshaun Watson to Amari Cooper. Kluda Baker finally stops

774
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: Cooper who gets the Browns a first and goal.

775
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: That's the Deshaun Watson. You want to see Amari Cooper

776
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: was double teamed right there, Buddha Baker. As soon as

777
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: the ball of snaff went over there, he dropped that

778
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: in the absolute bucket.

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00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 15: They they tied the shoes like us man like at

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Speaker 15: the end of the day, like they good, but like

781
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 15: we all here for a reason and uh, at the

782
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 15: end of the day, that's what that's what it's about.

783
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 15: I mean, they're a great team, they're a great football team,

784
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 15: and us it's just caught damn battle. You know, we

785
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 15: ain't gonna we ain't gonna bouwt out on nobody, and uh,

786
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 15: that's it.

787
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 12: Walker's trying to swing it out to him. No, now

788
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 12: he looks right now, it's the middle to the end joke.

789
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 12: Who gets it inside the ten and the five gets

790
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 12: it down to the goal line where Julian Love tackled him,

791
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 12: but not before he's into the end zone for a touchdown.

792
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 16: Same thing that was when I first got out there

793
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 16: and we scored on a I think the second drive

794
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 16: of the game is just taking one play at a time. Uh,

795
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 16: follow my keys, follow my rules. If it's not there,

796
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 16: take the check down, and don't make any play worse

797
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 16: than what it.

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00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 5: Is TTR back to pass throw spiddle Copper.

799
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: Caught it on a slayer. He's got it down to

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00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: the Steeler thirty seven yard line on the first down.

801
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: Joey Corner Junior on the tackle. That's exactly what they're about.

802
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: All right, there you go. Good job on that.

803
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: Great job, Great job, elite. Put yourself on camera. Take

804
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: about Get Griffin there too. Chef's kiss, boys, chef's kiss?

805
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: Where's Griff on the I look at that.

806
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 6: If you could have heard Griff, he slid over, he goes,

807
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 6: move over. I gotta get in.

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00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.

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00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 6: Do you guys know who Richard Nixon is the president?

810
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: Okay?

811
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: Just checking? We didn't know.

812
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: To me more, I just want to make sure you

813
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: know what gait was.

814
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 6: He most famous for Richard Nixon is that Watergate rib Gate?

815
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: Actually incorrect.

816
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: Hot today a real heater.

817
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: Dusty May He is dusted, Daniels.

818
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I'm so as soon as you said it,

819
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 2: I knew his uncle baby Belly of course. Yeah, caution

820
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: to the wied. He is one of I've decided that

821
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: he's one of my favorite completely unredeemable, at least thus far,

822
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: completely unredeemable characters I've ever seen in a show ever,

823
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 2: and that somehow you haven't even gotten and everything is

824
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 2: everything about him is terrible.

825
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: It's a rocket ship. It's even the third season.

826
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: He is Macaulay Culkin to play like his grown up son.

827
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: Did they I think they might? I can't remember. I

828
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: don't know. He's the best, all right. We had Hayley

829
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: Joel Osmit. I think maybe it was that that feels more. Yeah, well,

830
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: Marland Holland Holland. We had five different quarterbacks god start

831
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: games for us last season. We've said many times, it

832
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 3: really feels like three different seasons happened in one. Deshaun

833
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: Watson's back, dt R is back. PJ Walker's a free agent.

834
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 3: Jeffdriscoll's a free agent. Joe Flacco is a free agent

835
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: as well. In terms of their accomplishment statistically, Watson went

836
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: five and one sixty one point four percent completions, eleven

837
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 3: hundred yards, seven touchdowns, four picks. DTR went one in

838
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: two fifty three percent completions. One of those doesn't count, though,

839
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's too bad we count that.

840
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

841
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that first game was ridiculous. Nobody had a clue

842
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 3: what was going to happen there? For forty a touchdown,

843
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 3: four picks, PJ one and one, forty eight percent completion,

844
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: six seventy four a touchdown in five picks, Flaco four

845
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: and one, sixty percent completion, sixteen hundred and sixteen yards,

846
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 3: thirteen touchdowns and eight picks, and then terristcoll Oh for

847
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 3: one fifty percent completions, won sixty six two scores, two picks.

848
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Speaker 2: In the ten games played by Joe Flacco and Deshaun Watson,

849
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: we were eight and two. I know it says Watson's

850
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: five and one, but that's counts the Endie game. I'll

851
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: give that one to PJ. Walker.

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00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair, Yeah, that's that's one.

853
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: But in the eight game, in the ten games that

854
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: those two played, the Cleveland Browns were eight and two.

855
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: And I think that's what gives you some hope. And

856
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: we were talking before and I was saying to you know,

857
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: it wasn't what DeShawn didn't look like the old Dashawn.

858
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: And that's obviously the thing to get back to. But

859
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't think people give enough credit for the Tennessee,

860
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: Arizona Baltimore sequence, which is something actually I think I

861
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: said that you said back to me, and now I'm

862
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: saying it back to you to me, I do think

863
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: that because I always yeah, I'm more on that side

864
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: of you are. Yeah, yah, very true.

865
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: By the way, with that eight and two record, I mean,

866
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: you're just doing that. You're you're around sixty one percent completions,

867
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: you're twenty seven hundred yards, your twenty touchdowns, and twelve

868
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: picks with those two it's what they had.

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00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: Goodbye. You want to pick numbers down, DeShawn was seven

870
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: and four plus and DeShawn also had I want to say,

871
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: a rushing touchdown, So he was eight total touchdowns, four picks. Yeah,

872
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: a couple of fumbles as well, which actually the only

873
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: fumbles he lost all year, believe or not, were in

874
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: that Pittsburgh game. Yeah, in the Pittsburgh Listen this this

875
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: you had everybody on this list, with the exception of Driscoll,

876
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: And that's not nothing against him. He was playing in

877
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 2: a game that we were winning. Was not the goal

878
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: of that game, per se. It was not having anybody

879
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: get hurt that you wanted to play in the playoffs,

880
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: you know. So he had a rough go throw him

881
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: out because that game, the season was already decided what

882
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: it would be. Flacco, Watson, dtr Walker all had signature moments,

883
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: and I think that's what's so cool. Dt Art's beating

884
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Walker, it's beating the forty nine ers and

885
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: coming in against the Colts in that crazy game and

886
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: getting a win. Flacco, we already know what he did,

887
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: and then DeShawn played pretty well. Our margin of victory

888
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: when Sean Watson was a quarterback was very, very big. Yeah,

889
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: we had three blowouts.

890
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: You also, with the exception to Driscoll, who is that

891
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: you know, the meeting, let's start. You needed every one

892
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: of them, needed every single one of them, you know,

893
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: which was cool, Like, yes, every one of them had

894
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: their moments, and so now the question will be, we

895
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: need one to have a season long moment, and so

896
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: it'll be about Shaun watson'sself. We've already seen how much

897
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: this offseason has been about Deshaun Watson and the changes

898
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: that were made offensively, and that brings us to one

899
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 3: of our questions, doctor Z, and that is this, how

900
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: much can Ken Dorsey help Deshaun Watson this offseason and

901
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: into next season?

902
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: Real quick? I just calculates on my head we were

903
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: plus seventy. Our plus minus was plus seventy our differential

904
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: in the five games Deshaun Watson played plus seventy plus

905
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: seventy in those twenty four to three, so plus twenty one.

906
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 2: Lost by four, So back to seventeen, twenty seven to three,

907
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: so plus twenty four. That's forty one plus twenty seven

908
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: to sixty eight, and then beat Ravens by two seventy.

909
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: What were we in the Flaco games?

910
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: Flacco games? We were let's see the Rams game. That's

911
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: a tough start, minus seventeen plus four, so minus thirteen,

912
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: then plus three so minus ten, then plus fourteen so

913
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: plus four, then plus seventeen, so plus twenty one plus

914
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: twenty one in those games, plus twenty one. There you go,

915
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: all right, Dorsey, Dorsey, how much can he help? Yeah?

916
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: I think a great deal. I think that the overhaul

917
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 2: that was done to this staff was done to help

918
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. So the answer is how much? Cany? I

919
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: think a lot? He's got to We have got to

920
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: be a different, more explosive, more dynamic offense with Deshaun

921
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: Watson than we were even a year ago. Despite the

922
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: fact that he did play pretty well in his last

923
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: three outings that we saw. And the other thing is

924
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey can only help him so much, right, because

925
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: one of the big keys is he's got to be

926
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: able to stay healthy. And Ken Dorsey's not going to

927
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: necessarily help him avoid injury.

928
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: You can't the first season. There's nothing you can do

929
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 3: about it. It is what it is.

930
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: But the most.

931
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: Critical thing because as you articulated in the plus seventy

932
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 3: point differential, we articulated in a four to one record

933
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: the last three games, especially that he played coming into

934
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: his own bigley. But the injury stuff can't happen.

935
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can't.

936
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 3: He's got to stop getting hit. He's got to stop

937
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: throwing his body around. He has got to find a

938
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 3: way to get down and not get hit. This league

939
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: goes to the greatest lengths possible to protect the quarterback.

940
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: You have to let the league protect you. And he's

941
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: too far along in his career. He's too valuable to

942
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: this operation to get hurt. What's unfortunate is the two

943
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: injuries they think happened. Well, the first one against Tennessee

944
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: happened when he got that late hit and he just

945
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: kind of landed. So that's a total normal in the

946
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: pocket freak thing. Yeah.

947
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: And then the second injury I think happened when he

948
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: got chased down from behind on a sack and was

949
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: just driven into the ground. It wasn't it wasn't the

950
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: shoulder to shoulder hit in the open field. But even

951
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: and this is something I know they're dealing with in

952
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati with Burrow. Burrow wants to hold onto the ball

953
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: the longest possible time, to wait for something to develop

954
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: down the field. Yeah, and a big point of emphasis

955
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: for them this offseason is don't do that. Don't get

956
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: rid of yourself, get protect yourself.

957
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: So same with DeShawn. If the first read, second read's

958
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: not there, then you go and then you get down

959
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: or you get rid of it. Yep, you just can't.

960
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: It's too valuable.

961
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: Yep.

962
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: Factor Fiction, a veteran backup quarterback is a top five

963
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 3: knee this offseason for the Browns.

964
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: Fiction. I think it's fiction. I will understand wanting to

965
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: have a good backup, but I think Dtr, especially with

966
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: the changes that are going to be made, this is

967
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: going to be a lot more of the stuff that

968
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: he ran at UCLA. I like TTR. I thought he

969
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: turned the corner. Jake Trotter said it yesterday. Leads the

970
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: comeback when he starts getting it going against the Denver Broncos.

971
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: You know that Denver Broncos game didn't fall apart until

972
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: Dtr went out. That ended up being a lopsided loss,

973
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: I think twenty nine to twelve. But that game was

974
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: not That's not how that game went. We were right

975
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: in it. In fact, we were down fourteen to seven.

976
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: Dtr throws a touchdown and then I'm pretty sure if

977
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: I remember correctly, throw touch down to Harrison Brian and

978
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: Amari dropped the two point conversion, and then he got

979
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: hurt on the very next possession, so he would He

980
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: had led the Browns on three straight scoring drives field goal,

981
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: field goal, touchdown, so you felt good about that, like

982
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: he had three straight scoring drives. We're getting to going there.

983
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: I also think, having just watched a Super Bowl between

984
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 3: those two teams and that quarterback who won one a

985
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: veteran backup, you're not winning the Super Bowl anyway.

986
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's fair.

987
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: So if you don't have Watson at his best and healthy,

988
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: you don't have a chance anyway.

989
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. That's that's really the real reason,

990
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: the reality.

991
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: Of it, man, is it like, look what happened with

992
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: all of these teams. There's nobody that is a veteran

993
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: quarterback who can pop in and miraculously a team lead

994
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: a team through Alan Lamar Mahomes.

995
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: Yep, it ain't happening. Yep.

996
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: How tough is it to predict Watson's year with a

997
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: surgery we haven't seen from quarterbacks very?

998
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: It is very I think there is again so much

999
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: unknown because not only he's got to come back from

1000
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: the injury again new I think what's going to be

1001
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: at least fifty percent of a new look offense. And

1002
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: I think these are things he's gonna be happier with

1003
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: and more comfortable with. And so we'll see how that

1004
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: plays out. He's the whole key. I mean he is.

1005
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: That's why he's the whole key to the whole operation.

1006
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: When when we were doing the season review show.

1007
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 3: Yesterday, Rock Great Rock Legend, combine ready, combine ready, Yeah,

1008
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: it's aavy Valentine's Day.

1009
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: That's right, Rock, same to you, plastic same.

1010
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: She's getting ready for the combine.

1011
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: That's her there and am they're in it long days,

1012
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: Long Night's brother.

1013
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 3: That's why when I Yesterdy when we're doing the season

1014
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: review show it does it feels like the twenty twenty

1015
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: three season is an entire book. I said this Yesterday's

1016
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: It is not a chapter. There's no continuation. The defense

1017
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: has continuation, but offensively it is a start. It is

1018
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: a bunch of chapters in the middle and a finish,

1019
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 3: and then there is no sequel. Yep, it's we're I

1020
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: feel like we're right back to where we were last year.

1021
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: Yep, same spot. Yeah, like that's what this offseason will

1022
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: be is does it look right?

1023
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: By the way, there is audio from NFL films of

1024
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: the Chiefs flabbergasted that Kyle took the ball in overtime.

1025
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: Really they couldn't believe it. Yeah, couldn't believe it. Guess

1026
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: what isn't out on audio? And he was miked what

1027
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey said to Andy Reid.

1028
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: When I did see the greenlaw thing was tough to

1029
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: watch with all the different audio from the different people.

1030
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: So I didn't see that again. I see this totally

1031
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: both ways. I see the case for taking the ball

1032
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: first for the third possession advantage. I see the case

1033
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: for taking a second. So you know, exactly what you

1034
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: need to do. I see the case for taking it

1035
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: first from Kyle Stampoint because your d was just on

1036
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: the field for an entire two minute drive and was

1037
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: probably a little bit tired. I see the case for not.

1038
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 2: I also go back to see I see the case

1039
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: for were going for it? That seven? That was my favorite.

1040
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: That was my favorite point you made yesterday among many

1041
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: great salient points.

1042
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: I think that was on.

1043
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: Monday Show that they really should have just gone for

1044
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: the touchdown and that zero was better than three. And

1045
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 3: that's hard to wrap your head around because you say, well,

1046
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: more points are better than none, and understand it. But

1047
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: three points change the way the Chiefs attacked the drive.

1048
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: They would punt the ball back to you. They would

1049
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 2: have punned it. They're given them four downs Automatically.

1050
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 3: They have the mindset if we have four downs to

1051
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: get ten every series of downs.

1052
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: Right whereas they would have and they did get to

1053
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: a fourth down and they would have punted it. Yes,

1054
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: they would have. YEA, All right, there you go.

1055
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: Coming up next, as we continue with the season review portion,

1056
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: we will take a look at Andrew Berry and Kevin

1057
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: Stefanski heading into this very important offseason for this team

1058
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: that's coming up next to listen to Cleveland runs Daily

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00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,960
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00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,279
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Speaker 3: of your Cleveland Browns. One of the things we wanted

1065
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: to get into yesterday in the season review show, and

1066
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: we're going to get into it right now is assessing

1067
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 3: both Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski this season. You can't

1068
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: assess either one more highly. I mean, Kevin won Coach

1069
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: of the Year AB you could argue as execu general

1070
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: manager of the year, executive of the year for the

1071
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: things that he's done. So they absolutely both have big

1072
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: jobs this off season. Let's start with the AB part

1073
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 3: of it, and let's start here. What was the biggest

1074
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: move this front office made this season? I think it's

1075
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: pretty simple and straightforward.

1076
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: And he's the trade for Dustin Hopkins.

1077
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: Is it that or is it the signing of Flacco?

1078
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: Because those two things both you don't win eleven without

1079
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: either one of them happening.

1080
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because what Hopkins one took more guts

1081
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: and that was for sure. He had to cut the

1082
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: guy that you just drafted.

1083
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: Yes, one year, punting quite literally punting on the guy

1084
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: you drafted.

1085
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 2: You gave up a twenty twenty five seventh round pick

1086
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: for Dustin Hopkins, who I think change game. And the

1087
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: reason I say that is because that was a move

1088
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: that was made with the idea that our team was

1089
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: going to be our team. Flacco was born out of necessity,

1090
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: right in the sense that everybody had gotten hurt. We

1091
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: needed to get somebody in there to play. We knew

1092
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: at that point PJ. Walker wasn't going to be that guy,

1093
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: so you had to go out and get Flacco. But

1094
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: I think those are those are clearly the two the

1095
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: biggest moves made this year would be the drafting of

1096
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: or the trade for Dustin Hopkins, the mid season signing

1097
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: of Joe Flacco. And then I think from a draft standpoint,

1098
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: the best move this off season would have been the

1099
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 2: drafting of Delan Jones. Yeah, and then from a player move,

1100
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: because of the way that he performed, you know, you

1101
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: could also bring in back Kareem Hunt. I mean Cream Hunt's

1102
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: had a career high for rushing touchdowns first career this year.

1103
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: And then I thought, you know, Dalvin was such a

1104
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: good ad for this football team.

1105
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: Abe hit everything out of the park defensively, Yeah, all

1106
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: of it.

1107
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: Soa Darius didn't give you the numbers that you wanted,

1108
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: but I thought he gave the impact that you want.

1109
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: I think so too. I think if you watch the games,

1110
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: you felt the impact of Zadarius Smith far more than

1111
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: the numbers would.

1112
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: Lead you to believe. Yeah.

1113
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I thought all of those things

1114
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: were in and it was every time that a move

1115
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: was needed to be made, the team was needed to

1116
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 3: be you know, giving a little shot in the arm.

1117
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 3: He had the answers for it, and they did it.

1118
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: And and by the way, that's an ab part. That's

1119
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 3: ownership too. It's willing to admit when you're wrong early,

1120
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: even if it's a great cost, and to be able

1121
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: to move off of it and put yourself with a

1122
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: position to win. This is another off season for him

1123
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 3: where he will have a lot on his plate in

1124
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: terms of needs. We'll get into those as we get

1125
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: closer to the combine. But also no first round pick

1126
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 3: again this year either for Aba to work with.

1127
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, good good news is that hasn't You've gotten first

1128
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: round talent mj Emerson, Delon Jones. You're gonna have to

1129
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: do that again one more time this year. And you

1130
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: think about AB's ability the year that he did have

1131
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: a first round pick to hit on j Okay as

1132
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 2: a second rounder. You know, Delpit was a second rounder.

1133
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: So he's shown the ability to hit on picks in

1134
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: rounds two, three, and four.

1135
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: He has shown the ability to draft like a madman

1136
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 3: when it comes to the offensive line and defensive back seven. Yes,

1137
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: like crushed those picks. Second rounders, third rounders, fourth rounders,

1138
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: crushed them. Even an undrafted guy like Whippler, who I

1139
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: think has got a real future. Like, there's been a

1140
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 3: lot of those guys.

1141
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: The line has been the one. D line and receivers

1142
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: have been the areas because you know, Anthony Schwartz, David Bell, Tilman,

1143
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: D line has been Jordan Elliott, Tommy Togii, Siaki Eka,

1144
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: Alex Right. I think Alex writes he finally showed something

1145
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 2: last year. You get excited about you still have Isaah macguires,

1146
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: a young guy.

1147
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,479
Speaker 3: The Tillman one was interesting, but you know, it's hard

1148
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: to judge because we were such a one read offense,

1149
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: like it was, that's all we didn't And hopefully Dorsey

1150
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: can do that, like he can open up to where

1151
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: we're not such a one read because I don't know

1152
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: if Seda Tillman looked great in camp. He's got a

1153
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: big body. There's a lot to like about him. He

1154
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 3: can run, he can do all these things. But he

1155
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: really didn't get a chance. But even that's the way

1156
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: he was heading with with Donovan People's jones before the trade,

1157
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 3: it was like he wasn't getting any looks, no targets, nothing, nothing.

1158
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: And even that happened with Elijah Moore where when when

1159
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: Amari went out, then all of a sudden it was

1160
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: like okay, yeah yeah, but we really were two guys

1161
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 3: get to eat in the passing game. It was a Mari.

1162
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 2: And And I think that's what you need to expand

1163
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: you need to have a vertical guy, and I think

1164
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: gave Davis as a name that makes a lot of

1165
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: sense for the Cleveland Browns and nose. Dorsey knows his system.

1166
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: He's been one of the more productive vertical receivers. Has

1167
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: a size element that we don't have, and then you

1168
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you'd have you know, Davis on

1169
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 2: one side tomorrow and the other Elijah in the slot,

1170
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: and you know, give Tilman and Bell a chance and help.

1171
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 2: And then you say, okay, because Bell made some plays

1172
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: for you down the stretch. He really did. Tilman has

1173
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: the ability. It needs to be unleashed a little bit.

1174
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: But then you feel pretty good about your receiver room there.

1175
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's the challenge is to continue to

1176
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: a mass weapons because in the backfield we got. If

1177
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: you would have said coming into the season that Nick

1178
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 2: Chubb would get hurt when he did and that between

1179
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: between Jerome Ford, Pierre Strong and Kareem Hunt that you

1180
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 2: would basically get two thousand total yards and nineteen touchdowns,

1181
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: you would have said, wow, yeah, so you got. You

1182
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: would have Yeah, I still think you need a little

1183
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: more danger in that room. And Pierre's a guy, I

1184
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,959
Speaker 2: want to get the ball more. We'll do a running

1185
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: back you know, pre review, I'm sure at some point.

1186
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: But danger on offense and then game wreckers on the

1187
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 2: front of defense. That's only two things. Like everywhere else,

1188
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a lot of decisions making the linebacker room,

1189
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: but that they're good at drafting those guys. Tony Fields

1190
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: was a good draft pick. Yep. I mean they're good

1191
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: at finding those guys, and they're good at the secondary.

1192
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean cam Mitchell's turnout is gonna be.

1193
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: A great secondary, secondary and offensive line and team other

1194
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 3: than Wills Wills. We got to see if Wills can

1195
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: can be. But you may have stumbled into do one

1196
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: and and maybe that's that solves that a little bit.

1197
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 3: Is this the most challenging off season for Andrew Berry

1198
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 3: in his time here as general manager?

1199
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: No, not close.

1200
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 3: The most challenging was coming out of twenty twenty one. Yes,

1201
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: by far, Well, this isn't gonna work at quarterback. We

1202
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 3: need to go find another solution. Yes, that was the

1203
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: That was the yep. As for coach Gimy wants to know,

1204
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 3: how have you seen him grow this past season.

1205
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: I think that one thing that I think Kevin Stefansie's

1206
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: really really good at is assessing his strengths and then

1207
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: areas in which he may feel like he personally was

1208
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: somewhat deficient or that his style is maybe not even

1209
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: deficient is the right word, but where he may have

1210
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: holes in his game, and he's very good at finding

1211
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: people that fill those I think Jim Schwartz bringing in

1212
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: Jim Schwartz and giving that fire, you even saw more

1213
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: personality out of Kevin this year, and I think that

1214
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: emotional style of leadership really resonates. He's clearly very smart.

1215
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: He clearly has the ability to command this team. And

1216
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: I think part of that you got to give credit

1217
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: to Andrew Berry and his staff in terms of quality

1218
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: of the human that was brought into this organization in

1219
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: this offseason, in terms of the veterans that were brought in,

1220
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: the guys that were drafted, that everybody worked together. But

1221
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, on offense this year, you know,

1222
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: as much as he did with the defense last year.

1223
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: And Jim Schwartz, I think that he's saying, look, i

1224
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: know what I'm really really good at, but if we're

1225
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: going to maximize the strengths of our quarterback, we need

1226
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: to be more diverse than just what I'm really really

1227
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: good at. And Ken Dorsey's a guy that can help

1228
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: us be that, and so to bring him in and

1229
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: make those changes. So I think he's grown in terms

1230
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: of his leadership, his ability to convey emotion, and his

1231
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: passion to the team, and then just the fact that

1232
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: he is such a good overall steward of this organization.

1233
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he really to get through this

1234
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: year and all the things they went through, like that

1235
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: he won the Coach of the Year because everybody around

1236
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: the league that has an appreciation for what the Browns

1237
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: went through knows how difficult. What he did was to

1238
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: get this team ready to play and to beat the

1239
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: Steelers coming off of the emotional hive beating the Ravens,

1240
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: the devastation on Wednesday morning of losing Deshaun Watson is

1241
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: such a testament. So I think he did. He became

1242
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: There's no doubt that he was incredible schemer, play caller,

1243
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 2: put guys in positions to succeed and thus make money,

1244
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: and so they believed in him. And I think this

1245
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: year he became even better as a leader of men. Yeah,

1246
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: And I think he's I think he's grown.

1247
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: I think his confidence has grown, yes, And what I

1248
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: mean by that is it takes a great deal of

1249
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: confidence to see your own shortcomings and realize that you

1250
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: need help, or realize that there are things that you

1251
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: can be better at that are maybe out of your depth.

1252
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: That's very that takes a great deal of self confidence

1253
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: to do that, and so he knows exactly what he's

1254
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: good at, he knows exactly where his weak spots are.

1255
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 3: And in order to see yourself through that type of prism,

1256
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: you have to have a great deal of self confidence.

1257
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: So that's what's made for what's happened this offseason. I

1258
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 3: just think the one thing that I think is going

1259
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 3: to be fascinating and the one thing i'm right now

1260
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: it seems to be we haven't you know, he said

1261
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: in the press conference. We'll see about all of these things.

1262
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: But like I think, Kevin Stefanski's feel for calling a

1263
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: game is as good as any in the league.

1264
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: Yep.

1265
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: And I don't want that lost, agreed.

1266
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 3: So if we can rely on Ken for the things

1267
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 3: that he does best and implement you mentioned fifty percent

1268
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: offensive change from last year to make the boast and

1269
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: best out of Deshaun Watson perfect. But Kevin's rhythm for

1270
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: calling a game is a gift. And that's the reason

1271
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: I mean to go eleven and six with five quarterbacks

1272
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: is is just absolutely, absolutely unheard of. What is the

1273
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: biggest challenge facing coach this offseason and into next season.

1274
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: It's putting this offense together with Ken Dorsey and Tommy

1275
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: Reese and Douce Daley and Chad o'shay To and Andy

1276
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: Dickerson to make it be the best offense that it

1277
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: can be and accentuate the strengths of our players and

1278
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: most importantly Deshaun Watson and and eliminate or minimize the

1279
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: impact of the weaknesses that they may have or the

1280
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: schemes or whatever it is that we're running. And so

1281
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: I think that is the biggest challenge facing him because

1282
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: it is we've seen how good it can be, and

1283
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: we've seen two spurts really in the second half of

1284
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and in the four games with Fleck and

1285
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: I threw unfortunately too many picks and pick sixes, but

1286
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: you saw how good this offense could be. And I

1287
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: think the challenge is going to be it's gonna have

1288
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: to look different and it's not gonna be able to

1289
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: be all in that bread and butter. How we can

1290
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: get better. But he's done that. I mean, think about

1291
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: the run game, the adaptability from being an outside zone

1292
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: Shanahan Koobiac guy to now having a whole lot more

1293
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: of you know, pin pull and running power and running

1294
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, more inside zone. They've done a good

1295
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: job with those things. So I think he's a very

1296
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: adaptable guy, and I think he's done a great job

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Speaker 2: leading this team, and I don't expect that to change.

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01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: I think this offense has the chance to be the

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01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: most fun offense we've had in a while. Flacco was

1300
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: super fun for those games because of the big plays,

1301
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: but this one has a chance, I think, to be

1302
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: a real fun, kind of modern looking NFL offense.

1303
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 3: I also think that for there's probably a great deal

1304
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: of juice that you get if you're Kevin in that

1305
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: there is a lot of unknown This is going to

1306
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 3: be a very different offense than the ones he's coordinated

1307
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: and been the head coach of here to this point.

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01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: And he also doesn't know who all is going to

1309
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: fill those slots that are needed. We talk like there's

1310
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: big we need more weapons to compete with Kansas City,

1311
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 3: to compete with Buffalo, to compete with the Ravens and

1312
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati in the postseason, Like you've got to have more

1313
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: weapons than we have and that so this off season

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01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: will be about saying, here are our needs, how do

1315
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: we fill those needs? That's right, and they walk That's

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01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 3: the thing that's beautiful about about Kevin and a b.

1317
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 3: They walk in and hand on this stuff. So they're

1318
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 3: a great partnership. You ought to feel very good about

1319
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: where the organization is with those two guys being at

1320
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 3: the front of it in terms of personnel, in terms

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Speaker 3: of what happens on the field.

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Speaker 2: We'll go around the league.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next to listen to Cleveland Round Zailely bro

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Speaker 3: He probably one of the most passion fan base in

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Speaker 3: official witless year Cleveland Browns being a Next Gen STM

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Speaker 2: Around the league.

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01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: The Steelers have released a number of players, mister Trubisky

1336
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: among them, UH clearing pot teen million in cap space.

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01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: Presley Harvin the third was released as well, was a

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Speaker 3: starter for them.

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01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: Uh so three guys released their thirty million in cap space,

1341
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 3: lots of conjecture. They're going after fields, that they'll that

1342
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 3: they'll they're gonna go hard after justin fields.

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01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 5: Vegas thinks, so are they?

1345
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 2: One talked about that.

1346
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 3: He talked about that that Tomlins always liked him, and

1347
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 3: and that that that's not here.

1348
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: For any of that. Here's the there's a certain he

1349
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: can be elite with a cert if they if you,

1350
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 2: but it's gotta be you gotta have somebody who will

1351
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: we will play a certain system. You can't try to

1352
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: make him something. He's not the weapon.

1353
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 5: But I don't want to find out if they can, well.

1354
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't either. I like him individually great though, that

1355
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: would just be punning on pick it already. I mean,

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01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: I'd rather they don't.

1357
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: Imagine you remember all the Steelers fans who like anytime

1358
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: we would talk about Picket being completely average, would come

1359
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 3: at us. Yeah, where are you at now?

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01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,479
Speaker 2: I don't I want fields in vague.

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 5: Vegas is much better place thirty nine minutes away from

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01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 5: freedom for you, That's true.

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01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm giving you guys a B plus

1364
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: A minus. Oh, raniels I got a rep. That's done.

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01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're Nano said, what's that show? Should I watch it? No?

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01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: No, gem Stones?

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01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: No, No, the only show that I've binged that. I think.

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01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 3: I think Nana wouldn't. I don't think she'd like mad Man.

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: Could she do?

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Speaker 5: She might?

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01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: I think she could do Friday Night Lights.

1372
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, she likes squid Game.

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01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 3: Oh, well then she can. Yeah, she's got to. She

1374
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 3: can handle things.

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01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: She can handle things.

1376
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you said she she watched Ozark?

1377
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a great show.

1378
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she has your passwords?

1379
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: She does, so that would work. She has access to

1380
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: it all. She has access the whole, the whole entertainment

1381
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: world her fingertips.

1382
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: Yes, right as it should be.

1383
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: Of course she's the name. Yeah that's right.

1384
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 3: But yes, I've heard the fields thing on the on

1385
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 3: the Steelers pretty heavy. I want to I think Atlanta

1386
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 3: like just get him out, keep him in. That's what

1387
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 3: I want to, But that's not going to happen. Brandon

1388
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: Ayuk has some uh what oh this was the girlfriend right,

1389
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: saying that our time is is it?

1390
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Speaker 2: Don't they have a player option on him? Let's see.

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Speaker 17: I don't know the girlfriend was like in San Francisco

1392
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Speaker 17: is done, But I think that I think they have

1393
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Speaker 17: a player option. I think the Tao who like misses

1394
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 17: three weeks with a cracked fingernail would be gone before.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 3: I think he's back. I think that that's why they're

1397
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 3: the favorite. They're basically can run the game. The band

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Speaker 3: back for one more year.

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Speaker 2: Well, the weird thing about it is how he's being

1400
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: so upset his brothers on Twitter every all these people

1401
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: are going.

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01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 7: Nuts soive for band. So they picked up his fifth

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01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 7: year for this year.

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01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's not going anywhore?

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01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I don't know what he's That doesn't even

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01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: make sense to meet.

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01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 5: You're holding out? Are you gonna hold out? Because that's

1408
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 5: not smart? That never ends.

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01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 15: Well.

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01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna make more money this year than

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: he made in the previous four seasons combined.

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01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so's he's not going anywhere. The Chiefs parade is

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01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: going on right now. Oh, I know they're having a time.

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01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: It appears Mahomes is shirtless. He is is Jason Kelsey there.

1415
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: I feel like.

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01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 5: I saw we're gonna We're gonna play some clips tomorrow, Okay,

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01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 5: very good of their podcast that dropped cliff notes and

1418
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 5: the Peak behind the Curtain. The mask that Jason Kelsey

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01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 5: wore the night of the.

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01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the ray masterial mask.

1421
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 5: He He's like, I just found that on the floor

1422
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 5: and put it on. Come on, And Travis like, you

1423
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 5: washed it off right, He's like, no, nah, oh, that's great,

1424
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 5: Like Jason one him on man.

1425
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 3: One of the look at all the humanity that just

1426
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 3: is spilling up.

1427
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: The stairwell big meetings.

1428
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: Man, it's like ninety people walking up.

1429
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: One of the funniest tweets that I saw yesterday was

1430
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: it was Travis and Taylor walking into the party all

1431
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 2: decked out and then Jason walking behind them in his

1432
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: zubas and his and the whole thing. And they said

1433
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: it looked like a scene from I think this it

1434
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 2: was a Ryan Reynolds movie, like Ryan Reynolds New movie

1435
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: where he has an invisible friend that like like Jason

1436
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: Galcey walking around with them while they're going. I just

1437
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: think it's so cool.

1438
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 3: He's the older brother, he is a super Bowl champion,

1439
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 3: he's likely a first ballot Hall of Famer two, and

1440
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 3: he's that big of a super fan of it.

1441
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 5: And by the way, I've got a shout out.

1442
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: Look at that Valentine's Day, the Valentine's then look at it.

1443
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh oh man, well he is running a business today.

1444
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 4: He was.

1445
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: We were so ensconced in our research that he even

1446
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 3: had to slow down so that we could look up

1447
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 3: and see because he was.

1448
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 2: He was running a business downstairs, running a business.

1449
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 5: Boy was yeah, yeah, no. Shout out to his wife,

1450
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 5: like who I think was at the super Bowl with

1451
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 5: him and was like, I want nothing to do with

1452
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 5: whatever is coming after this game ends, like go live,

1453
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 5: go live your best life. Like that's that's an A

1454
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 5: plus effort from her.

1455
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 3: Here, Travis Kelcey chugged a beer while holding a cardboard

1456
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 3: cutout of his brother at the Chief super Bowl party.

1457
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 5: Well at one point he was on the shoulders of

1458
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 5: crete Humphrey walking down the middle of the street, the

1459
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 5: middle of the parade route.

1460
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: Amazing.

1461
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 3: Oh that's beautiful, absolutely beautiful. The Jets are going back

1462
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 3: to their new New York Sack Exchange jerseys as their

1463
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 3: primary option.

1464
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: What a surprise. I love it. What gold is.

1465
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 3: Of course, everybody changes and then it's just they wear.

1466
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 3: The throwbacks are like, oh, those are great, just wear them,

1467
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 3: and good job. Good on you Woody Johnson for not

1468
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 3: being like Stephen Ross down in Miami, who's just hell

1469
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 3: bent on keeping the ones correct that are that the

1470
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: ones that he likes, the new ones as opposed to

1471
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 3: wear the old ones.

1472
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: They're so good.

1473
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't like New York's stock has change,

1474
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 3: sack has changed as much as I like the name OFUS.

1475
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 3: I think the names are perfect jets, but these are

1476
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 3: much better.

1477
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: Than the Pennington's.

1478
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, the Saskatchewan rough Riders ones they've been wearing.

1479
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 3: So they're gonna go with a they'll have it a

1480
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 3: new they had the green option or the white option

1481
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 3: this year? Which one did they wear this year? The

1482
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 3: green or the white option of the sack exchange?

1483
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: The green?

1484
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so they're gonna have the white and then they're

1485
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 3: gonna do a black version. So're gonna go that teen perfect, perfect, perfect.

1486
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of the jets that you see, Sauce Gardners and

1487
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: never gonna go back to Vegas.

1488
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 3: No, what happened.

1489
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: I was in Vegas and long story short, somebody did

1490
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: a card trick and I'm a billion percent sure that

1491
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: the cards were in my hand. At the end, he said,

1492
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 2: cards aren't in your hand anymore. Now it's a block

1493
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: of glass. Move your hand, and sure enough, a block

1494
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 2: of glass was in my hands instead of the cards.

1495
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: I'm never going back to Vegas.

1496
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 3: That's something everybody says as soon as they leave Vegas,

1497
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 3: and then they all go back.

1498
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: Well magic.

1499
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 3: Have you guys ever been in part of a magic trick?

1500
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 2: Yesde I've been a part of one that is to

1501
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: this day inexplicable.

1502
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you told me that. That was when you

1503
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,839
Speaker 3: were with with miss and those guys, right.

1504
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: Yes, it was that the missus Dad's favor bar. We'd

1505
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: go to the night for Thanksgiving. This magician who has

1506
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 2: been good, he's been on you know, the shows and whatever.

1507
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: Long I'll do. Long story short, had a card. Yep,

1508
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: I signed it, Kayla signed it, handed it to him,

1509
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 2: watched him rip it up. Yep, the card with my

1510
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: signature on it. Then he did some whatever whatever whatever

1511
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: The big reveal was. He goes, I think there's something

1512
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 2: in your shoe, And all of a sudden I moved around.

1513
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, there is something in my shoe. Sure enough,

1514
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: sure enough in my shoe. When I took it off

1515
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 2: was the card that I signed and Kayla signed, folded

1516
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 2: up and I was able to unfold it and it

1517
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: was a card signed by to us. Impossible. He never

1518
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 2: touched my foot, He was never near my feet. Impossible. Impossible, Like,

1519
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: and yeah, go into my shoe. It was under my foot,

1520
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: in my shoe. It's impossible.

1521
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 3: You have your eyes on him the whole time.

1522
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I have my eyes, but it's in my shoes, shoe,

1523
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 2: and I watched him rip it up. I signed one,

1524
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: we signed one card, the two of us. He ripped

1525
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: it up through my signature. I saw it and then

1526
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: it was in my shoe, untorn. That's when I was like, So,

1527
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: I was like, I kind of Harrison forwarded him. I

1528
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: was like, get away from me here, get out, kindly, leaf,

1529
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: kindly leave. Not okay, the Chiefs.

1530
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 3: Are signing defense corner. Steve Spagnolo become the first coordinator

1531
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 3: four Super Bowl victories in a contract essentially with Kansas

1532
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 3: City on Wednesday ahead.

1533
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 2: Of the Super Bowl parade.

1534
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 3: One of those instances where had a shot as a

1535
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: head coach. But this is what he's best at.

1536
01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 2: Great coordinator.

1537
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 3: He is a great coordinator, and there's tremendous value in

1538
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 3: that and the idea that they're gonna be able to

1539
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 3: go with Red and Spignolo, youngest defense in the league.

1540
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 3: They got to figure out what to do with Chris Jones.

1541
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 3: They're running it right back, Yeah, is the reality. Ye

1542
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 3: champs are running it right Speaking of the Champs.

1543
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 2: Since two thousand and one, okay, there have been one

1544
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five drives in the NFL postseason where

1545
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: it was at least the fourth quarter, there was under

1546
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: a minute left to play and the team on offense

1547
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: trailed by seven points or fewer at the start. These

1548
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: are your standard clutch moments for a football team that

1549
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: you were diving. Give me the situation.

1550
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 3: It's seven down seven or less down seven or less.

1551
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: Yep, fourth Q under a minute or overtime under a minute.

1552
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: Okay.

1553
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: Of those one hundred and twenty five drives, only forty

1554
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: percent of them saw the team on offense pull off

1555
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 2: the magic trick and get the points they needed. Some

1556
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are pretty good at it, such as Tom Brady

1557
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: he went five for eleven, Drew Brees went three for six.

1558
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: Only Patrick Mahomes, though, is seven for seven or perfect

1559
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: in those dire situations, and he had two of them.

1560
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: He did two of them in that Super Bowl.

1561
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: He's the magician who put the thing in your sock.

1562
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: Yes, is what he is. All Right. Did you see

1563
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: the crazy story coming out of the Super Bowl efforts

1564
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: about forty nine ers John Feliciano, No, anyone, No, Okay,

1565
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: I saw it.

1566
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1567
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: So there's two parts to this, all right. The first

1568
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 2: part is that John Feliciano the day after the Super Bowl,

1569
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 2: he got hurt in the super Bowl, and believe me,

1570
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: my father was very was not pleased about it. He

1571
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 2: got hurt in the Super Bowl. The guy who replaced him,

1572
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 2: I think his name was Spencer Burford is the one

1573
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: who didn't block Chris Jones on the third down where

1574
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: i UK was wide open, Jennings was wide open, where

1575
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 2: they could have gone up seven in overtime. And then

1576
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a different by still Mahmes said,

1577
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: I love it when teams don't block me. Yeah. Great, Ye.

1578
01:14:54,600 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 2: So Feliciano went out and tweeted basically like through his

1579
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: teammate under the bus, and I was like, guy went

1580
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: in for me, screwed up, didn't block him, and it

1581
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 2: costs a super Bowl. And so then that guy comes

1582
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: on Twitter and it's like, thanks John, thanks pal, this

1583
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: is what I wake up to you saying this. And

1584
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: then he's like, oh, I was emotional, I'm sorry. He

1585
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 2: takes it down. He's also embroiled in a current feud

1586
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: with Jalen Carter of the Eagles. Okay, okay, Jalen Carter

1587
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 2: alleges during their Week thirteen game, Fortniner's lineman John Feliciana

1588
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,799
Speaker 2: was trash talking him about a car accident that resulted

1589
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: in the death of one of Carter's teammates. That's what

1590
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: Carter says. Feliciano went to Twitter when this story came

1591
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: out to say this, Jalen Carter told me he was

1592
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 2: gonna murder me and my kids would never see me

1593
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: again three different times in that game because I was

1594
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 2: laughing at him. After getting a flag. I said to him,

1595
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: I believe you've got a body. Then he continued for

1596
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: weeks posting my fam and reaching out to my friends

1597
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: threatening to kill me.

1598
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,959
Speaker 3: What Jalen Carter not exactly a clear past either.

1599
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: No, but like apparently, according to Feliciano, threatened to kill him. Well,

1600
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 2: that'd be easy to find that document it certainly. Yeah,

1601
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: So that's but he came out and like he went

1602
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: to Twitter with this good grief. The best is though

1603
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: he did apologize. You can all come on, come at

1604
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: me for unintentionally backstabbing and hurting Spencer. I can take that.

1605
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 2: I deserve some of that. But he said for the

1606
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Car stuff, note, dude, want to take the streets,

1607
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: I'm too old for that. In the NFL. We got

1608
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 2: too much to live for. All I'm trying to do

1609
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: is grow old on my farm. But he was said.

1610
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: He responded to that, he goes, if you're gonna dish it,

1611
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: you gotta be able to take it. He talked about

1612
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 2: my kids. I made that reference. I lost friend of

1613
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: next and two, so I understand was upset. I did

1614
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: feel bad and thought about apologizing until he started posting

1615
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: my kids on his Instagram and I had to get

1616
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 2: the NFL involved.

1617
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 6: Shsh There's more to the Burford story if you want it.

1618
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 11: Go.

1619
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 7: If Feliciano apologized on Twitter, he said, sorry, bro, woke

1620
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 7: up with a hungover and being a bleep trying to

1621
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 7: have your back.

1622
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 6: I hurt you. You got nothing but great and as

1623
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 6: ahead of you. I'm sorry, bro.

1624
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 3: There you go all right, give me you have some

1625
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 3: golf notes.

1626
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 5: I do, but I'm trying to I'm trying to one

1627
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 5: up Griff and his little Spagnola and his little griff

1628
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 5: factor of the day. We're going at Griff. I'm going

1629
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 5: at Griff. This is his last day before vacation. Spagnola

1630
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven, defensive back coach. I

1631
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 5: know because I cut his practice tape. Come on the

1632
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 5: Bowling Green State University Falcons. Is that herb No Gary

1633
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 5: Blackney ninety six ninety seven.

1634
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 3: Wow, Holy cow, a little bit of talent on that

1635
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 3: campus in those days. Give it you crowling around and

1636
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 3: nobody else.

1637
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 5: And it's funny. I didn't remember it until my buddy,

1638
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 5: who was the head head of football video, was like, hey,

1639
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 5: because he would always hire me to work, Like in

1640
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 5: the spring, they put me up in one of those

1641
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 5: bucket trucks up in an end zone that at the

1642
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 5: time was not secure, and everything changed once that guy came.

1643
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah they died Notre Dame.

1644
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was one of I was the guinea

1645
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 5: pig before. I would always film and then I had

1646
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 5: to go to the defensive coaches and he's like, you

1647
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 5: worked with this guy, and I was like, I worked

1648
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 5: with Spags. He's like, oh yeah, he was definitely on

1649
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 5: the staff. And then I had to look it up

1650
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 5: and I'm like, yeah, you're right.

1651
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: God, that's wild. That is wild. Uh And now you

1652
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: also have some golf bacts.

1653
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 3: I do you have some golf stories for us?

1654
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 5: The box score for the twenty twenty four Waste Management

1655
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,919
Speaker 5: opening compliments of shooting McGavin.

1656
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw this.

1657
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 5: Calls for service, six hundred and fifty three, oh my god,

1658
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 5: fifty four arrests, two hundred and eleven ejections, and seventy

1659
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 5: three trespasses.

1660
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you gotta just just be cool.

1661
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: How did that get to that point?

1662
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 5: That's a tremendous question.

1663
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 3: I did it get from being like the funnest non

1664
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 3: major of probably the most fun golf term of the year,

1665
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 3: but the one that everyone wants to go to other

1666
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 3: than the majors two Like I think Ricky Fowler called

1667
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 3: it Coachella for men.

1668
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.

1669
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: Like you don't. I mean, so many of the videos

1670
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: of people the one guy who's like leaning, yeah, people

1671
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: falling on their faces, just get drunk, have a good time.

1672
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 3: There's nothing about being drunk in public, No.

1673
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: Like fall down stupid. So like your boy, right there?

1674
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: I did you did like that? The cool? Nothing? Nothing

1675
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: cool at all?

1676
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 3: Drunk in public public? Oh yeah, it's a mess.

1677
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 5: And finally in partnership with Taylor Maid, I wanted to

1678
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 5: get you guys thoughts on.

1679
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad we didn't talk about this Yester.

1680
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 5: Sunny Day Red before Tiger returns tomorrow. The JENNISI Sunday

1681
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 5: Red is the apparel. It's in partnership with Taylor Made.

1682
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 5: It's gonna be like Jordan Brand, it's all on their own.

1683
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 5: It appears that we are the absolute target for this

1684
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 5: stuff our age. The gear is the gear that we wear,

1685
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 5: which is fast, decent, casual looking pants that you can

1686
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,560
Speaker 5: wear at a meeting, at golf and at white tablecloth,

1687
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 5: and then a top that goes with it, whether it

1688
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 5: be a quarter zip or a golf hoodie. Like that's

1689
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 5: the clearly the look.

1690
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 3: I would just tell say this, this is a wildly

1691
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 3: competitive market. Wildly so there are so many companies if

1692
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 3: like just my Instagram alone, the amount of companies that

1693
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 3: sell this type of stuff, Yes, that get pushed to

1694
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 3: me and to try to get into it.

1695
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 2: It's tough.

1696
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 3: It's very tough. And I thought the logo was cool.

1697
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 3: I don't know why they didn't do something like that

1698
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 3: a long time ago at Nike. Logo's great dancing the

1699
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 3: fly and Tiger running. Tiger thing is very cool.

1700
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,919
Speaker 2: And the fifteen stripes are for each of his major championships,

1701
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 2: and he says this, when he wins sixteen, they will

1702
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: update the logo with a sixteenth stripe.

1703
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 3: Yeah. Somebody asked me, like, does he have to does

1704
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 3: he need to have somebody else wear it? And I said, no,

1705
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 3: he doesn't. He's still the biggest thing in all of golf.

1706
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 2: Anybody. I've showed this too of our age who are

1707
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: in the golf and who loved Tiger that they I

1708
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: got the same response back from multiple people, which was

1709
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,799
Speaker 2: take my money.

1710
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 3: He will be interesting if they do, because his Tigers

1711
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 3: stuff wasn't wildly popular. My kids love it like the

1712
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 3: tw like they would wear the t W stuff, but

1713
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 3: like when I would play golf, like you go to

1714
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 3: the club or whatever, good be walking around in t

1715
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 3: W stuff.

1716
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 2: I think this will get I don't know if it'll

1717
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 2: be sustainable, but it will have a good strong one.

1718
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 3: The key to it is going to be the subtle,

1719
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 3: like the logo's got to be subtle. It can't be overpowering.

1720
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 3: So it's got to be simple and like.

1721
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: A black golf ay with that like just little here

1722
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 2: big make it little atome, don't get don't let it

1723
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: get big. Doesn't need to be big. Yeah, so it

1724
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 2: doesn't look big on any of the things that he's wearing.

1725
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 3: Speaking of golf, the Golf Show is out at the

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Speaker 3: i X that starts tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: You please go see him.

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Speaker 3: Are are the official teaching pro of Cleveland runs daily

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Speaker 3: the great Sir Mike Dixon. He will be there. He

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Speaker 3: has leg mester out there. We've tried it. It's awesome. Yep,

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Speaker 3: he's the best. Seek him out. I know he'll be

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Speaker 3: there on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Between two and seven.

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Speaker 3: So seek him out. And and uh and and tell

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Speaker 3: him that we said so because he's the best.

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Speaker 2: That guy, good human. All right, hold on grip for

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Speaker 2: the grift. Fact of the day, though this has to

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Speaker 2: be read verbatim. All right. Time for the grip Fact

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Speaker 2: of the day. It's on a teleprompter. Fact of the day,

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Speaker 2: Fact of the day, Fact of the days. Back to

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 7: The Oakland Athletics are naming naming Jenny Kavnar the first

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Speaker 7: full time play by play announcer in Major League Baseball history.

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01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that's like what, let's Joe Jomas?

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Speaker 12: Hold on?

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01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: Wait wait, hold on?

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01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 3: Is does anything in this Griff fact of the day

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Speaker 3: strike you as incomplete?

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Speaker 2: Read it again?

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Speaker 6: I got it?

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01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: Now, read it again, Read it again.

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01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 6: I'm going to just as it as it's written, add

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01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 6: the correct word.

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Speaker 3: No, no, as it's written, the Griff.

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01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 2: Can we get them on camera and Griff tell them

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01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 2: to move over? Get in the shot? Yeah, Griff, get

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01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: in there.

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Speaker 7: No this I'm I'm this is not on Griff. I

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01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 7: don't want to put any I know, I.

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01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: Know that, we know, we all know on you. Yeah, alright,

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01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: so just.

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Speaker 7: Go a naming Jenny Kavner the first full time play

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01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 7: by play announcer in MLB history.

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Speaker 3: Which would be a hell of a thing.

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01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 6: It would be awesome if that one all of.

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01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: Like Vince Scully didn't exist, wasn't a full time It

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01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: was like when they said Joe Thomas was the first

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01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: offensive lineman in NFL history, they just forgot the the one.

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01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 7: There's a couple of words that are there's a qualifier

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01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 7: to go ahead the way it should be. First female

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Speaker 7: by play announcer that's been hired full time for any

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Speaker 7: of the thirty Major League Baseball teams.

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01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: All you needed was female men. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: She currently works for Fox Sports one packed pac twelve network.

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01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 6: It's played by play announcer. And now she's gonna work

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01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 6: for the ACE, which is cool.

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Speaker 2: That is very cool and it is a great fact

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Speaker 2: of the day.

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Speaker 3: Yep, last year in Oakland, how many days, how many

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 3: years you got left there?

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01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. My dad was telling me the other day,

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01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: and I didn't do enough to like look into it.

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 2: But something like Vegas is trying to.

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01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 3: No, he's he's got an operating headlines saying the mayor

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01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 3: of Vegas does not control the strip. The county controls

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01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 3: the strip. She has no say on if the a's

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01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 3: put the put a stadium on the strip.

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01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: Why would she care because she's not getting a revenue

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01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 2: for it. No, got it.

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01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 3: But every it was panic, including Pager's got to go

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01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 3: beyond the headlines. It's gonna go beyond the head.

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Speaker 6: Anyways.

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01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 7: I don't think the fans in Vegas are very excited

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01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 7: about this. They did like a fan fest in Vegas

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01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 7: and nobody showed up.

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01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 3: Well, they need to change it to the Vegas Aces.

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01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 3: And there's a Triple A team that's the Aces already.

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01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 3: But you need to just do that right away. You

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01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 3: just keep where the a's are gone.

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Speaker 2: Well, you could sell the a's on the thing, but

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01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: they'll just be the aces is.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, buddy, they're the athletics.

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01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: They are. But it's over. It's over, it's done.

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01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 3: Your city couldn't get it together, Mark maguire. All they tried,

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01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Terry Starney, Carney, Lanceford, Dave nd or something, Parkers,

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01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 3: Tony Phillips, Terry Steinback. Yeah, Steinbock's great, but you Ron Hassey.

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01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 2: It was an Indian first time catcher, right, Bob Welch.

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01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: Bob Welch twenty seven and six one year killed it.

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01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 2: Yea fantastic Wayland, Eugene Nelson, Dennis Eckersley, maybe a Greg

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01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: cat Rupy. What was your punk? What was your.

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Speaker 3: How long have they been trying to do a stadium there?

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01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 3: Twenty years in the Bay Area for that, I think

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01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 3: I think most of my like adult life, they've been

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01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 3: trying to build there was We're going to do it

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01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,480
Speaker 3: in Santa Clara, and we're going to do it in

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01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 3: uh San Jose and we were going to do it.

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01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 3: And what's the one with the H?

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01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 2: There's an H? Wasn't there an H? Hayward? Was it that? No?

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01:25:58,040 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 3: I don't think it was that.

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01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 4: There was.

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01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 2: I want to say, there's one other so is the

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Speaker 2: Rock Rock was born May second, nineteen seventy two, at

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01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: the hospital I was born at in Heyward, California. That's

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01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: because his dad was on the root. It's the opening

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Speaker 2: line of his biography.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were born and this the Rock was

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01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 3: born in the same town as you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Have you had this conversation with him?

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01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: No? I think you ought to yourself to have that

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01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: conversation with him. Normally, when I see him, I'm like, hey,

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01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 2: what's up? And hi, sir, shake a hand and tell

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01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: him what he'sa And yeah, big teremana guy, Big Teremanta guy.

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01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 2: I am. I always you. It would be impossible to

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01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 2: come to my house ask for Terramunta and not be

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01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 2: able to have it. That'd be impossible. Yeah, right, you're

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01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 2: looking it up. Yeah, check your break and come back.

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Speaker 3: No, I got it. I'm going to get it. There

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01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 3: was there was because.

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01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: I know that they he was on the road with

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01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 2: his with his uh dad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've tried forever to get that sorted out. Oh yeah,

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01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 3: they've even tried Sacramento. Remember that at one.

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01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 2: Point, like I thought, you were looking at where the

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01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 2: rock was.

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01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 3: No, I believe you where the rock was born.

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01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't need to. I'm not fact checking you on

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01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 2: the WWE Ayward, California.

1849
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 3: I know again, I don't need it.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1851
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,479
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Speaker 3: So my homes on age said, they all doubted us.

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01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear any different. But you know

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01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 3: who came through in the end. That's the Kansas City Chiefs.

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01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 3: Who doubted you? Everybody, What do you mean because you

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01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:10,879
Speaker 3: were an underdog?

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Speaker 2: No, they were doubted this year in the sense that

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01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 2: out of Christmas. Yes, you know what, the highest odds

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01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: they ever were to win the Super Bowl. What guess

1869
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 2: tender if you nailed it for everybody who doubted him.

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01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 2: The worst they ever were was ten to one. This

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01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 2: was the year they were vulnerable. Kelsey was struggling, They

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01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 2: weren't looking like themselves. It felt like this this was

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01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 2: the year to beat them. There were It wasn't like

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01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are just gonna go roll through and they're

1875
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,839
Speaker 2: gonna go to They're gonna beat the Dolphins, go to Buffalo,

1876
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: go to Baltimore, and then beat the Niners. No, but

1877
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: they did it. I like that, and he's right. I

1878
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 2: think he's right. I think he's probably made it.

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01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 3: I think that you take anything you want, that, you

1880
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 3: take anything you can for motivation. And I do think

1881
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 3: that they thrived on being on the road. I think

1882
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: they were genuinely looking forward to being on the road.

1883
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 3: There's no doubt in me it was ever done. Two

1884
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 3: people said that they can't do it, you can't go

1885
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 3: on the road. I think it invigorated them for sure,

1886
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 3: to go on the road and to win. But I

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01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 3: also think that, like most of us, when it came

1888
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 3: time to pick these games, seventy eight percent of people

1889
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 3: bet on them to win the Super Bowl YEP. So

1890
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what the numbers were in Baltimore. I

1891
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 3: picked them to be Baltimore in cover. The only one

1892
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 3: I messed on was the Bills game, and I'm never

1893
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 3: betting against That's when I said, I've never betten against

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01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 3: him again ever. But my guess is the public was

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01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 3: on them most weeks.

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01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: What it says to me, though, the fact they were

1897
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: made under dogs is that Vegas really thought they were

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01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: going to lose one of those games because they knew

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01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: they were gonna get all the money on them, and

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01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 2: Vegas did not. They did not get that long Vegas

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01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 2: had to take a bath. Oh my god, Super Bowl

1902
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 2: would have been Niners covered and won. It would have

1903
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: been massive for Vegas. Yes, and I thought they were

1904
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: going to Yeah, but those special teams and then Patrick

1905
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 2: said inevitable seven for seven in those situations. That's nuts.

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01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 3: That's I saw that this morning too, Yeah, saying I'm

1907
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 3: gonna be back. I ain't going nowhere, baby, well, so

1908
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 3: they're gonna run it back, and the Niners are gonna

1909
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 3: run it back. That's the job.

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01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 2: What if they go three out of five years head

1911
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 2: to head and the Niners never get done, that'd be

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01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 2: so tough.

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01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 3: They'd be the Bills because what they'd be. They'd be

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01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 3: like the Bills of the early nineties, like you just

1915
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 3: for the Braves, except the Braves finally won. They finally won.

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01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 3: But you'd knock on that door so often. If you

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01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 3: can win one then its validates.

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01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to win one of them. Yeah.

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01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 3: Cool scenes down there, I was like, I just like

1920
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 3: trying to hold Chris Joones up as he's swaying.

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01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: Oh good lord. Maybe one day. Kids.

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Speaker 3: All right, we are back tomorrow. The next level's coming up.

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Speaker 4: Next.

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