Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour on this Tuesday, and it's been
Speaker 1: a busy show, a lot of topics. Spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time, maybe too much time talking about Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: and an addendum in his contract. I talked to a
Speaker 1: long time agent. He said, never heard that before, where
Speaker 1: you've put in an addendum basically saying we need you
Speaker 1: to study more. And the fact that it was made
Speaker 1: public and it was in the contract. Those are things
Speaker 1: that the agent Ice Books, who said, never heard of
Speaker 1: that before, and it looks bad for both sides. We'll
Speaker 1: get phone calls on this topic coming up. Also, Chris
Speaker 1: Mannox will join us. We'll talk about the possibility of
Speaker 1: the Celtics and the Brooklyn Nets maybe broaching a deal
Speaker 1: that will involve Kevin Durant. Brooklyn declined the offer the
Speaker 1: trade that the Celtics made the news, I think came
Speaker 1: as a little bit of a surprise. Probably did to
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. Also, you have some role players there, but
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to Boston, and Boston is already, according to DraftKings,
Speaker 1: been made the favorites to win the NBA Championship without
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. But if you have Kevin Durant or the opportunity,
Speaker 1: can you pass that up to pair him with Jason Tatum.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Mannix about that coming up. Make
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Speaker 1: do you have for me? Well, Dan, we threw up there.
Speaker 1: Who should be more embarrassed today? The Cardinals are Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Right now, sixty eight percent have Kyler all right. Well,
Speaker 1: ultimately it comes back to him that you did you
Speaker 1: need to put that in writing? I guess that's that
Speaker 1: would be my first question with the Cardinals Steve Kim,
Speaker 1: who is their general manager, or Cliff Kingsbury, Like why
Speaker 1: put it in writing? Can't you like, can you have
Speaker 1: a communication level here that says, Hey, we need to
Speaker 1: dedicate ourselves a little bit more. We need to put
Speaker 1: in a little bit more time. Here's the reason why.
Speaker 1: Like that's another thing. Here's here's the reason why we
Speaker 1: need you to put in more time. This is what
Speaker 1: we hope to get out of four extra hours of
Speaker 1: film study. I've never heard of this before, but Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray may look at himself and say, look, I'm unique.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'd say to Kyler Murray. Michael
Speaker 1: Vick thought he was unique as well. At some point.
Speaker 1: Got to be a quarterback. That's not just an athlete,
Speaker 1: that's not just an ability to run. Because Johnny Manziel
Speaker 1: thought he was smarter than everybody else, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he wasn't. Kyler is a more polished quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's a more successful quarterback. He's a better quarterback. But
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel had all the answers. Johnny had all the
Speaker 1: answers in college. You could do it pros camp. But
Speaker 1: Kyler is really close to being a great quarterback, but
Speaker 1: you got to show postseason success, second half of the
Speaker 1: season success. But I would hope that Cliff Kingsbury would
Speaker 1: be able to say to management, don't put you don't
Speaker 1: have to put a clause in there unless you don't
Speaker 1: trust him, Why put it in. I would say to
Speaker 1: my head coach, Cliff, you need to bring him in.
Speaker 1: Let him understand what this is all about. Yes, it
Speaker 1: must be strange to look around though and not see
Speaker 1: some of the greatest quarterbacks to ever do this aren't
Speaker 1: half as athletic as Kyler Murray. Is what is the
Speaker 1: thing that made them so successful? Then yeah, no, and
Speaker 1: that's that's what you lead with. These guys didn't have
Speaker 1: anywhere near what you have, and but they became great
Speaker 1: because they studied, they put in the time. And he says, look,
Speaker 1: I got the cogitive cognitive skills to be able to
Speaker 1: do it. Well, okay, fine, Eventually it catches up too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a negative. What's the downside
Speaker 1: to watching more film? That's what I would ask him. Well,
Speaker 1: of course he doesn't want to do it, and it
Speaker 1: could be boring, but you know that moment where you go,
Speaker 1: oh wow, I didn't realize that, and that wins you
Speaker 1: a game, wins you playoff game. Maybe you see something
Speaker 1: if you say, hey, you know Patrick Mahomes puts in
Speaker 1: all this time, Brady still puts in all this time.
Speaker 1: Why are you different? We'll get to your phone calls
Speaker 1: coming up. Also a little bit later on, the former
Speaker 1: Patriot defensive back Jason mccordy will join us. He's now
Speaker 1: working for the NFL Network. We make way for Chris
Speaker 1: Mannox Mannix has been all over this possibility of a
Speaker 1: trade between the Brooklyn Nets and the Boston Celtics. How
Speaker 1: real is this, Chris, the possibility that Kevin Durant and
Speaker 1: the Celtics could maybe pull off a deal. The Nets
Speaker 1: are in a way running out of options with Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: you know, they couldn't put a deal together involving Phoenix.
Speaker 1: And that's when Phoenix had DeAndre Ayton as a potential
Speaker 1: trade chip. That's off the board now because Atan's new
Speaker 1: contract prevents him from being traded at least in that
Speaker 1: first year. Miami. You can't trade bam Atabio to Brooklyn
Speaker 1: with Ben Simmons on the roster because the league rules,
Speaker 1: and I don't get the sense Miami has an appetite
Speaker 1: to deal bam Atabio as it is. You know, Toronto
Speaker 1: is not giving up Scotty barn in a deal for
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. So the number of potential suitors is pretty
Speaker 1: limited out there. And Boston's out there with a bona
Speaker 1: fide all star in Jalen Brown. Draft picks which, as
Speaker 1: I said, they're unafraid to deal and swap rights, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do, and ancillary pieces that they can
Speaker 1: throw into the pot that might satisfy Brooklyn. So it's
Speaker 1: a long way of saying I believe there's real teeth
Speaker 1: to the possibility of Kevin Durant winding up in Boston.
Speaker 1: Let's look at Jalen Brown's situation. He was the celtics
Speaker 1: best player in the finals. Probably looks around and goes,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, You've tried to trade me a couple
Speaker 1: of times now, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard and felt like
Speaker 1: he was going to be involved in those trades. He's
Speaker 1: twenty five two years left on this deal. Is what
Speaker 1: is he or was he in the long term plans
Speaker 1: for the Celtics. Look, I think Jalen's always been part
Speaker 1: of the long term plans for the Celtics, except if
Speaker 1: you can get a train sended player. I mean, Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown has not been talked about in deals that would
Speaker 1: net a player the equivalent of Jalen Brown. The names
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Kawhi Leonard, which was a topic when Leonard
Speaker 1: was being dealt from San Antonio, Anthony Davis, when Davis
Speaker 1: was at the peak of his powers playing in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Now Kevin Durrett, an all NBA guy who has four
Speaker 1: years remaining on his contract. It's just Jalen Brown is
Speaker 1: the most movable piece on this roster. Now, the Celtics
Speaker 1: might be getting themselves into a bit of a pickle
Speaker 1: with Brown for some of the reasons that you talked about.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brown, even though it has been for players
Speaker 1: who are elite, has been talked about in trades every
Speaker 1: single year. I mean you go back to Jalen Brown's
Speaker 1: Draft night, Dan, he was booed, his selection was booed
Speaker 1: on Draft night in Boston for some fans that wanted
Speaker 1: him to take Chris Dunne in that draft. So he's
Speaker 1: had kind of a roller coaster ride in the city.
Speaker 1: So the Celtics have to wonder if all these trade
Speaker 1: talks have poisoned the well in a way with Jalen
Speaker 1: Brownie so I'm tweets something on Monday that seemed to
Speaker 1: suggest he was a little bit frustrated. The other part
Speaker 1: of this is that Jalen Brown does have two years
Speaker 1: remaining on his contract, but it's not a contract that's
Speaker 1: likely to be extended for financial reasons. Jaylen Brown took
Speaker 1: what turned out to be a below market value contract
Speaker 1: when he signed one a few years ago, and because
Speaker 1: of that, he can't turn around and sign a max
Speaker 1: level extension next summer with this team. There are limits
Speaker 1: to how much Boston can offer him in an extension.
Speaker 1: They can go all out and offer him a five
Speaker 1: year max when he hits free agency in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: but that's a risk. Like Jalen Brown will be an
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent in twenty twenty four and he could
Speaker 1: look around and say, you know what, I'm tired of
Speaker 1: all this trade talk. I want to go to a
Speaker 1: place where I can be either a more appreciated or
Speaker 1: be in a position to be the lead man on
Speaker 1: that team. I believe I have the talent to ultimately
Speaker 1: do that, and the Celtics could wind up losing him
Speaker 1: for nothing. So there are a couple of reasons why
Speaker 1: Boston might be motivated to get deeper into this mix. Okay,
Speaker 1: what happens next. Does it come from the Nets in
Speaker 1: what they want or does it come from the Celtics.
Speaker 1: Since this is where it originated, whether it's the Celtics
Speaker 1: or any other team interested in Kevin Durant, it now
Speaker 1: becomes kind of a game of chicken where everybody kind
Speaker 1: of retires to their corner for a few weeks and
Speaker 1: waits to see what kind of plays out. For teams
Speaker 1: that are interested in Durant, including Boston, they want to
Speaker 1: see what Brooklyn's appetite really is for bringing the band
Speaker 1: back together. I mean, the Nets want the league to
Speaker 1: believe that they are willing to bring back Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, and because of that, there's no sense of
Speaker 1: urgency to do that. There's skepticism amongst some of the
Speaker 1: league officials that I've talked to that Brooklyn really is
Speaker 1: willing to do that. So the way I'm kind of
Speaker 1: reading the room here, Dan, is that everyone is off
Speaker 1: for a few weeks, maybe they're already off right now,
Speaker 1: go on vacation, all that, and then mid to late August,
Speaker 1: maybe even early September, you kind of reconvene and take
Speaker 1: the temperature of their respective teams. Now, Brooklyn may decide,
Speaker 1: you know what, we can't do this. Kevin Durant doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be here. We're not gonna bring him back.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna have a circus on our hand. With
Speaker 1: Durant back in town. They'll say, you know what, Jaylen Brown,
Speaker 1: Derek White throwing Grant Williams, and maybe we can make
Speaker 1: a deal. Or the alternative is the Nets could say,
Speaker 1: you know what, no deal unless we get what we want,
Speaker 1: and the Celtics may be faced with having to decide
Speaker 1: whether or not to include Marcus Smart in a deal.
Speaker 1: I personally think that you could probably get it done
Speaker 1: with Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, and a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: draft picks and swaps. But the self understandably don't want
Speaker 1: to do that. Marcus Smart took a lot of criticism
Speaker 1: after the finals, but this is a reigning defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year, still in his twenties, still at or
Speaker 1: near the top of his game. They don't want to
Speaker 1: move Marcus Smart, but it may it may come down
Speaker 1: to that decision when we get into late August. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you're the Celtics, We're gonna pass on Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant because we don't want to give up Marcus Smart.
Speaker 1: It's two starters, Dan real assets, real value that they'd
Speaker 1: be giving up. It's Kevin Durant. It is Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: which is why I wouldn't hesitate to trade Jalen Brown,
Speaker 1: who is twenty five and has the potential to be
Speaker 1: an All Star All NBA player for the next ten years.
Speaker 1: It's a risk there because Durant's injury history has to
Speaker 1: leave you a little bit leering. It's gonna be thirty
Speaker 1: four years old in September. But I'd still do it.
Speaker 1: Adding Marcus Smart into that mix, a player that has
Speaker 1: been integral to what they do defensively, that might be
Speaker 1: a little bit too much for the Celtics to swallow,
Speaker 1: especially when you consider that, Yeah, if you believe Vegas,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going into next season as like the
Speaker 1: co favorite. That's why I wouldn't do anything. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't do again, just me speaking, I
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't do both. I wouldn't throw Marcus Smart and
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown into that mix. But if you're just effectively
Speaker 1: flipping Jalen Brown for Kevin Durant plus a Derek White
Speaker 1: plus draft picks, oh I do that. Of course, yes,
Speaker 1: that opens That opens a four year window right there
Speaker 1: for you to win multiple championships. You know, people out there,
Speaker 1: I've taken the opinion of the Celtics should do nothing,
Speaker 1: they should stand pad. I've read that a lot. Because
Speaker 1: the Celtics are considered a favorite. I can tell you,
Speaker 1: even if they are list as a favorite and by oddsmakers,
Speaker 1: Vegas and whoever, there's not a comfort in Boston that
Speaker 1: they are the favorite. They know they were probably a
Speaker 1: Chris Middleton injury away from losing in the second round.
Speaker 1: They were Jimmy Butler jump shot away from losing in
Speaker 1: the conference finals. They're looking around and going Phil at
Speaker 1: Elphie just reloaded. Atlanta is going to be better, Cleveland's
Speaker 1: gonna be better. Hell, they could be one, you know,
Speaker 1: not even major injury away from losing in the first
Speaker 1: round in next year's playoffs. That's how little the margin
Speaker 1: for Erz. You add Kevin Durant, that margin increases significantly
Speaker 1: for next season. He's Chris Mannox, he covers the NBA.
Speaker 1: NBA senior writer for Sports illustrated the Donovan Mitchell situation.
Speaker 1: It certainly was front burner and then it cooled off.
Speaker 1: Are we looking at the same time frame? If something
Speaker 1: happens in a couple of weeks, I think it could
Speaker 1: be that, but it's almost more likely to be even longer.
Speaker 1: I feel like some of these reports that are coming
Speaker 1: out there about Mitchell to the Knicks or it is
Speaker 1: almost wishful thinking on behalf of some Look. I wrote
Speaker 1: this today on si dot com, like this is this
Speaker 1: is exactly the kind of situation Danny Age wants to
Speaker 1: be in if he's not competing for a championship. This
Speaker 1: is the situation he wants to be in to have
Speaker 1: a young, highly talented player that he doesn't really want
Speaker 1: to have on the roster anymore because he wants to
Speaker 1: go into a rebuild with three years left in his
Speaker 1: contract and multiple suitors out there. Like day with Rudy Gobert,
Speaker 1: Danny found someone that was just desperate. He just smells
Speaker 1: desperation on teams really well. And Minnesota came in and
Speaker 1: offered those four draft picks and young players and got
Speaker 1: a deal done. Someone. Whether it's a few weeks from now,
Speaker 1: a few months from now, the trade deadline, someone's going
Speaker 1: to get desperate. There are some obvious choices or candidates
Speaker 1: out there right now. The Knicks, they could get desperate.
Speaker 1: They've wanted Donovan Mitchell for years now. Leon Rose used
Speaker 1: to represent him CIA in New York. Miami. If Boston
Speaker 1: gets Durant and other teams move around but Sixers picked
Speaker 1: up pieces, Miami could say, look, Donovan Mitchell's better than
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero. Will throw Tyler Hero three first round draft picks,
Speaker 1: whatever else on the side that you want Phoenix. Look
Speaker 1: that was a if. Thanks it for Phoenix. In the playoffs,
Speaker 1: they could say, look, Mikal Bridges plus every draft pick,
Speaker 1: we've got to go get you Donovan Mitchell. All I
Speaker 1: can tell you is this, Dan Danny Age's gonna win
Speaker 1: this trade. He is. He's just going to win this trade.
Speaker 1: He's gonna find somebody out there that is just crazy
Speaker 1: and wants to get Donovan Mitchell so bad they're willing
Speaker 1: to give the kind of package that would almost make
Speaker 1: a Durant deal. Look, look tame By in parison. Somebody
Speaker 1: out there is going to do it. Thank you, Chris,
Speaker 1: you got it, Dan. That's Chris Mannox covers the NBA
Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrating, bringing up some interesting thoughts about this.
Speaker 1: And if you're Jalen Brown and they know he's not
Speaker 1: going to be there long term, then maybe you'd start
Speaker 1: to sweeten the deal. I would stand Pat, but it's
Speaker 1: hard to pass up the opportunity to get Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: It's what do we give up to get Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: Kde Jason Tatum, Malcolm Brogden, Al Horford, Robert Williams. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could still piece together a good lineup, but is
Speaker 1: that a lineup that's more balanced, has more depth than
Speaker 1: what you've had this past year? Segond break, we will
Speaker 1: talk some football. Jason mccordy played. How many years do
Speaker 1: you play in the NFL? You have that, Todd I
Speaker 1: believe it was thirteen, yes, thirteen seasons, yeah, and now
Speaker 1: joining the NFL network at his thoughts on this Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray situation and more of your phone calls as well.
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Speaker 1: mccordy spent thirteen years in the NFL. Let's see Ellen
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. Hi, Ellen, thanks for holding what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Two things, very briefly, One is I'm he
Speaker 1: should be up by now, So I think the proof's
Speaker 1: going to be in the pudding to see what Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley has to say about Kyler Murray. Riley's got invested
Speaker 1: interest in coming out and defending his guy. But if
Speaker 1: he and the rest of the of that quarterback room
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma is relatively silent, and as the Great Dinners
Speaker 1: Green once said, you know they are who we thought
Speaker 1: they are. Okay, I thought they were. And the second
Speaker 1: thing is the jazz artist send Donovan Mitchell and a
Speaker 1: bullet to the Knicks, because the bullets, the Knicks are
Speaker 1: going to shoot themselves in the foot. They always do,
Speaker 1: you know. So no matter what, Danny As is gonna
Speaker 1: win that. So thanks for kicking my call, all right,
Speaker 1: thank you, Ellen. Sounded like Melissa Ethridge there did a
Speaker 1: little bit. Uh, let's see Rick in South Carolina high reck,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Six one, steely hard two fifty three.
Speaker 1: But more importantly, but more importantly, size appropriate hands. Look,
Speaker 1: I think I think the I think we're misreading this.
Speaker 1: I think this force is strong with the guys in Arizona.
Speaker 1: I think they did this on purpose. They put it
Speaker 1: in the contract. He agreed to it. So he's admitting
Speaker 1: as a problem. But more importantly, by leaking it, they've
Speaker 1: got all this information out there about maybe him not
Speaker 1: having about the best discipline in the locker room and studying,
Speaker 1: and so now they've got everybody talking about it. Doesn't
Speaker 1: that put the greatest us are possible on him the change? Well?
Speaker 1: I think he needs to. But I would have kept
Speaker 1: this in house with Cliff Kingsbury. I would have said
Speaker 1: to my head coach, hey, this is on you. You're
Speaker 1: a former quarterback. You know you got to teach Kyler
Speaker 1: how to prepare better, prepare giving me examples here. You
Speaker 1: got guys with half his talent who are preparing twice
Speaker 1: as much. Why because they have to and look at
Speaker 1: the success that these quarterbacks have. But you know, how
Speaker 1: much time do you put in? How do you monitor this?
Speaker 1: They're going to give him an iPad and they're gonna
Speaker 1: go up. You put in three hours and forty two minutes?
Speaker 1: How bad was it? What exactly is it that he's
Speaker 1: missing out on with film study? Can they point out
Speaker 1: examples here? But to put it in the contract, actual
Speaker 1: in actually in the contract. That blew my mind. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, why don't you have a line of communication
Speaker 1: to him to say we need you to prepare better.
Speaker 1: NFL Networks Good Morning Football co ho the newest member,
Speaker 1: Jason mccordy, and the Emmy Award winning They stole it
Speaker 1: from us Good Morning Football airs Monday through Friday, seven
Speaker 1: a m Eastern. Oh, he's now wearing makeup, Jason mccordy
Speaker 1: joining us on the program. Welcome to the dark side there, Jason.
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Getting used to the whole makeup thinking?
Speaker 1: Good morning? But yeah, I'm enjoying us so far. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, let me ask you about the Kyler Murray situation.
Speaker 1: Your reaction when you heard that they actually put this
Speaker 1: in the contract. Yeah, I heard a little bit of
Speaker 1: what you were just saying, and I root as far
Speaker 1: as monetary it. So I've been in the league. We've
Speaker 1: always had the devices others I pass hold on, Jason,
Speaker 1: let me get you a better phone line here, So
Speaker 1: a little crackley there, a little muffled uh, Jeff and Detroit, Hi, Jeff,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Hey? What's going on down? What up? Though?
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking my call real quick. Listen. It's
Speaker 1: a cautionary tale when your quarterback doesn't study. Okay, some
Speaker 1: point JaMarcus Russell, I remember the coach saying that he
Speaker 1: gave him the CD said go over this. I mean
Speaker 1: BBD said go over this. This learned these plays. Comes
Speaker 1: back to captain next day said okay, what plays do
Speaker 1: you want to run? We can run them all. Coach
Speaker 1: he said, which play. That's when he knew he was
Speaker 1: in trouble because nothing was on d yep. I agree,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jeff. Somebody brought that up earlier. You know,
Speaker 1: there's certain ways that you can test somebody. I remember
Speaker 1: somebody telling me about giving somebody a book to read.
Speaker 1: There wasn't anything in the book, it was just a cover.
Speaker 1: And they said, how'd you like the book? Loved it?
Speaker 1: Loved it? And I was like, oh, what'd you would
Speaker 1: you love about it? And they were like, uh, I
Speaker 1: never read it. And then they opened up the book
Speaker 1: and said, look, there's nothing in there, just to cover. Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: I want to ask wondering about we assume that this
Speaker 1: story was leaked by someone with the Cardinals. I wonder
Speaker 1: if Ian Rapp, reports reporter for NFL Network. I wonder
Speaker 1: if contracts at some level are are public access, like
Speaker 1: where reporters can get a hold of them, and especially
Speaker 1: if you work for the NFL, maybe you have access
Speaker 1: to player contracts. Usually I would assume player contracts are
Speaker 1: pretty boring, but I would wonder from ian standpoint if
Speaker 1: if he has access to all player contracts or this
Speaker 1: is one that was leaked. Probably not going to tell
Speaker 1: you now and nobody else said this, but you do
Speaker 1: bring up an interesting point. He works for the NFL,
Speaker 1: do you have access to this? I think is really
Speaker 1: the key with us. We'll see if we can get
Speaker 1: Jason mccordy back with us. The connection wasn't very good.
Speaker 1: Rich in California. Hi, Rich, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1: Good morning Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, stooks
Speaker 1: one two, Ken. I really appreciate the opportunity to listen
Speaker 1: to you and all the dan outs each morning and
Speaker 1: enjoy what each person brings to the show. I have
Speaker 1: a particular fondness for Polly's snarkiness and question comes from
Speaker 1: that vein. So, if Mario wakes up tomorrow morning and
Speaker 1: as a rich Man, what's the overrun draw on the
Speaker 1: number of days the new girlfriend last? Oh oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Mario is in love. I don't know it might be real.
Speaker 1: Who knows? We wonder how many guys show up tomorrow
Speaker 1: if we win. I'm guessing everybody does. Wait, is there
Speaker 1: is there's one of you guys who won't show up
Speaker 1: if we win the lottery? Seaton, No, I'm definitely showing. Okay, Marv,
Speaker 1: I'll be here. Okay, Paul, I'll be here at eight
Speaker 1: fifty nine, You'll be right before the show starts. To ook,
Speaker 1: I mean that's an alarm all right? Yeah? See, I
Speaker 1: don't really want to talk about it though. What do
Speaker 1: you mean like we just keep it like like we should.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't come in and be like, hey, guess what,
Speaker 1: we all won the lottery last night? Right? Oh, so
Speaker 1: we would come in and act as if nothing happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'd just all be in better moods. How long do
Speaker 1: you think we could keep the secret? Who would be
Speaker 1: the one that would probably leak this to Ian Rappaport
Speaker 1: from the NFL network like a good fellas They all
Speaker 1: show up in new cars and you know fur coats.
Speaker 1: Ye get back? Uh. Jason mccordy is back with us
Speaker 1: zooming in with US NFL Network Good Morning Football co host. There,
Speaker 1: you look good? You look like, you're ready to play.
Speaker 1: Could you do two days during the week and your
Speaker 1: brother do three days and nobody would know the difference. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The toughest thing is we'd have to talk about contract
Speaker 1: is he's getting paid a lot more than our We're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna alternate. He's gonna have to give me
Speaker 1: a little bit more those millions of dollars he's making.
Speaker 1: How often does the topic of identical twins come up
Speaker 1: conversation for you? H a lot, especially when we were
Speaker 1: both playing football. The comparisons he was in New England
Speaker 1: from all of his career majority of my career, spend
Speaker 1: a year in leveland didn't win much, eight years in Tennessee,
Speaker 1: never made the playoffs. So the twins stuff has followed
Speaker 1: us in our entire lives. I don't see that changing
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Does your brother rub in the championships into
Speaker 1: your face? I mean, how does that work with brothers?
Speaker 1: He can now I got my one Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 1: I told him I don't need three three three, but
Speaker 1: I was able to get there. I tell him all
Speaker 1: the time it was me coming to the team in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. That's helped him secure his third championship. It's
Speaker 1: lucky to have me thirteen years one sack? What do
Speaker 1: you remember about it? My corner coach in New England
Speaker 1: gave me a hard time about that. We were trying
Speaker 1: to find a way to let me blitz because my
Speaker 1: first sack came early in my career versus Jacksonville. It
Speaker 1: was it was a strip sack at that we didn't
Speaker 1: recover the fumble, but a glorious moment for me. I
Speaker 1: was never able to do again. So one sat David Garrard,
Speaker 1: No it wasn't. I believe it was Chad Henny if
Speaker 1: I'm not steak and it wasn't. It wasn't Garred. Well,
Speaker 1: he's not that hard to bring down. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get myself too much credit. It wasn't that. It
Speaker 1: wasn't that impressive of a sack. I was unblocked coming
Speaker 1: off the edge. More of a scheme thing than a
Speaker 1: tapent thing. Um, what do you think players think of
Speaker 1: the Kyler Murray situation? Because it's one thing for us
Speaker 1: to have something to say about it. You guys are
Speaker 1: the guys who signed these contracts. You're gonna be in
Speaker 1: the locker room with the quarterback what do you think
Speaker 1: the feeling is with that the language in a contract
Speaker 1: with Kutler mur Yeah, I think it's twofold. I think
Speaker 1: for those guys in that locker room. There might be
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room that don't like Tyler and
Speaker 1: maybe they think he's lazy or doesn't do this or
Speaker 1: doesn't do that. There's guys in that locker room which
Speaker 1: I was the majority of that locker room, or where
Speaker 1: they probably love them. And I don't think this was
Speaker 1: probably news to anyone. I think it's probably more stocking
Speaker 1: that it's in the news and now it's a distraction
Speaker 1: almost in a sense. I think if I was in
Speaker 1: a locker room, that's what I would be most annoyed by.
Speaker 1: As the start of training camps rolling around. That may
Speaker 1: be a guy who just signed, or a guy that's
Speaker 1: kind of on the bubble. I'm trying to make the team,
Speaker 1: and I may be a veteran. I'm getting interviewed and
Speaker 1: I keep having to answer questions about Kyler Murray's contract.
Speaker 1: A guy who's making a quarter billion dollars, who's obviously
Speaker 1: performed well enough that the team decided to pay him
Speaker 1: despite of his amount of film wash or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So I think within the locker room you understand that, hey,
Speaker 1: we may all be treated fairly, but we're not all
Speaker 1: going to be treated the same. I played with guys
Speaker 1: throughout my career who could go out all weeks still
Speaker 1: show up for practice every single day and perform well
Speaker 1: on Sundays. Maybe I can knock them. I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing is for them is going to be trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to get Kyler Murray to perform
Speaker 1: better down the stretch of the season for himself and
Speaker 1: the Arizona car. But were you aware on the teams
Speaker 1: you were on how much time the quarterback was putting in? No,
Speaker 1: I'm never aware of I think you always knew that
Speaker 1: quarterbacks were coming in early on Mondays there all day
Speaker 1: for the most part on Tuesdays as the install was
Speaker 1: going in because i mean, let's face it, mentally, that's
Speaker 1: probably the hardest position on the football field. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: wondering how he handles this because it has the potential
Speaker 1: to be embarrassing because they're they're saying, look, you're not
Speaker 1: putting the time maybe or you're lazy. Yeah, it has
Speaker 1: to be annoying, and I think like I think you said,
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason. Maybe they did it. Maybe
Speaker 1: they thought it would reflect battle on him and he
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden start to do more. But
Speaker 1: I mean he could literally go home, turn on the
Speaker 1: video games, grab his iPad, open up the film, hit play,
Speaker 1: leave it over there, let it play for an hour
Speaker 1: while he's playing Call of Duties. So to me, it's
Speaker 1: more of a ploy within the media to hold him
Speaker 1: accountable for the rest of the interested people in the world,
Speaker 1: to post to him actually watching film, and who knows
Speaker 1: how much time does he spend in the building. Maybe
Speaker 1: he watches all of this film inside the building and
Speaker 1: he wants some me time when he kicks back, and
Speaker 1: it's probably beautiful horizon the home. Well, I understand that
Speaker 1: you bring up a great point. I think there's not
Speaker 1: gonna be somebody there at home monitoring him, if they're
Speaker 1: gonna go, hey, we're watching what you're watching on your iPad?
Speaker 1: All right, click, I'm watching and you're playing World of Warcraft.
Speaker 1: But I wonder, though, how much of this is on
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, He said, head coach, he's a former quarterback.
Speaker 1: Don't don't you usually have a veteran who helps the
Speaker 1: younger quarterback understand how to prepare for an opponent weekend
Speaker 1: and week out. That's what I mean. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: baffled it by this. I mean we talked about it
Speaker 1: throughout the NFL the whole time I was in playing
Speaker 1: in the lay veteran leadership and how important it is.
Speaker 1: I can look back, I had Corland finnagain, Chris Hope.
Speaker 1: Those were guys that taught me how to be a pro.
Speaker 1: There's one thing to have a guy to say, hey,
Speaker 1: for Kyler, Hey, when this thing opens up, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a hot reading and gonna hit your ex receiver backside.
Speaker 1: But it's another thing having a guy in a meeting
Speaker 1: room day in and day out of showing you what
Speaker 1: it's like to prepare for a game. And I think
Speaker 1: it does fall on the head coach of being able
Speaker 1: to make sure, hey, each and every week he's prepared.
Speaker 1: And he's already said he's a guy that Moore goes
Speaker 1: off his cognitive skills. He doesn't need to watch a
Speaker 1: ton of film. We talked about on the show today.
Speaker 1: Michael Vick at one point set early on in his
Speaker 1: career like he didn't really see the significance that he'd
Speaker 1: get the little DVDs and just throw him in the
Speaker 1: back of the car. And obviously before he got into
Speaker 1: trouble with everything, Michael Vick an electric player who was
Speaker 1: having a really good career. So I think there's levels
Speaker 1: to it. Does Kyler want to be one of the
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league. Does he want to win
Speaker 1: the championship? Those are the things that we'll see over time,
Speaker 1: how much work he's willing to put in to see
Speaker 1: how high he wants to take it. And sometimes you're
Speaker 1: so gifted that you haven't had to put in the time.
Speaker 1: It's just natural. But that's what I keep bringing up
Speaker 1: Michael Vick. Vick said, if I put in the time,
Speaker 1: I'd probably have a Super Bowl ring. This is coming
Speaker 1: from Vic who might be the most talented player who's
Speaker 1: ever played that position. You played against Kyler Murray? What
Speaker 1: was the game plan? I think twenty Yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: played against him. Yeah, we wanted to keep him inside
Speaker 1: the pocket. That was the biggest thing when we were
Speaker 1: going against him. We wanted to force him obviously a
Speaker 1: smaller quarterback but extremely electric when he got out on
Speaker 1: the edge and he had the ability to make guys miss,
Speaker 1: to be able to make plays in space, and just
Speaker 1: kind of be able to be creative in the moment.
Speaker 1: He makes it very challenging for a defense. So for us,
Speaker 1: we wanted to keep them bottled in and keep them
Speaker 1: in the pocket and then be able to disguise and
Speaker 1: mix up our looks. And he's gonna continue to see
Speaker 1: a lot of that. When you're as good as he
Speaker 1: is on his feed, Teams aren't gonna want to let
Speaker 1: you beat them that way, so they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: force you to stay in the pocket and be able
Speaker 1: to disguise things. For any young quarterback, that's the hardest
Speaker 1: thing of being able to read those coverages. Who was
Speaker 1: the quarterback that you face? Me went, damn, he's a
Speaker 1: step ahead of us. Oh my goodness, Peyton Manning. He
Speaker 1: was just tough. I remember we played him. I was
Speaker 1: in Tennessee when it got to Denver, and he was
Speaker 1: so tough. When you're trying to substitute or you're trying
Speaker 1: to huddle, he'd go straight to the line call another place.
Speaker 1: So going into the game, we had a system where
Speaker 1: we wore wrist bands. We gave numbers within the first drive.
Speaker 1: We threw that out the window and our DV coaches
Speaker 1: on the sideline just signaling every call we left him.
Speaker 1: We gave up fifty some points that game, and knew
Speaker 1: a guy on the other team he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: after the first quarter, between Peyton and the guys upstairs,
Speaker 1: they knew all of you guys hands signals, so they
Speaker 1: were just feeding them with the coverage was gonna be in.
Speaker 1: We gave up fifty points, so Peyton was always a
Speaker 1: step ahead. What if you just didn't listen to what
Speaker 1: he said at the line of scrimmage? Would that have
Speaker 1: been better if you're trying to figure out what he's saying,
Speaker 1: because a lot of it's you know, just you know, garbage,
Speaker 1: a decoy. I remember when I first got to Tennessee,
Speaker 1: obviously Indy was in the division. We played him twice
Speaker 1: a year, and when it came Indy week, like everything
Speaker 1: shifted in the building and we get like a little
Speaker 1: packet that had all of the things and sayings and
Speaker 1: signals and up over the years that Hayton Manning and
Speaker 1: that offense is doing. But I remember my rookie year,
Speaker 1: we had some engines. I ended up starting that game
Speaker 1: obviously we lost, but I'm looking through the pack and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's no way in hell I'm gonna
Speaker 1: remember these things when I get out on the field.
Speaker 1: There's about a hundred of them. So yeah, throw it
Speaker 1: out at throw it out all out the window. There's
Speaker 1: no way that you're gonna be able to use that.
Speaker 1: When you were you got to the Patriots, Brady famously
Speaker 1: loves should come up and say Hi, I'm Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: as if you wouldn't know him when you got there.
Speaker 1: Did Brady do that to you? I already had that moment.
Speaker 1: I used to travel down to all the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: so I remember it was maybe Dev's second year in
Speaker 1: the league when they went to the Super Bowl in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: and I'm there with all the families and all of that,
Speaker 1: and he comes up to me. It was like, hey man,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady Man, love watching you play for me. I
Speaker 1: remember my second year. I remember telling everybody Brady just
Speaker 1: came up to me and said, you know what's who
Speaker 1: I am? Like I was picked up? But Tom Man.
Speaker 1: Tom was awesome, a great guy to share locker room with,
Speaker 1: extremely down to earth man, great, just great, not only
Speaker 1: a great player, but a great person. Tyreek Hill's putting
Speaker 1: a little pressure on your former quarterback there in Miami
Speaker 1: and Tah. What do you think of that game plan? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we talked about that this morning. If I'm ta,
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. You know. It's that it's that new
Speaker 1: girlfriend phase. You got that infatuation. Everybody's fired up about it.
Speaker 1: And I think when you look about look for two
Speaker 1: throughout his career, when he first gets to Miami, Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's there and the questions are, hey, should we get
Speaker 1: hand it over to tour? But hey, Fitzpatrick's doing well.
Speaker 1: Then Twas kind of takes over later on, but there
Speaker 1: was a question marks, hey should it still be Fitzpatrick?
Speaker 1: And then you look at last year to us comes in,
Speaker 1: he's the starting quarterback all throughout training camp. Hey are
Speaker 1: they're gonna trade for Deshaun Watson. Hey, Stephen Rowson ownership
Speaker 1: they wanted Deshaun Watson and the trade deadlines is the
Speaker 1: same story. So even from talking to him last year
Speaker 1: like that becomes frustrating. No guy wants to hear that.
Speaker 1: Continue to look over the shoulders. I think, yes, he's
Speaker 1: probably a little bit over the top. There's a compliment
Speaker 1: every week about two of the most accurate passer in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now, but I think it's nice to have
Speaker 1: some positive vibes going on around NAP building moving into
Speaker 1: this season this year. Hey, congrats on the new gig
Speaker 1: and we appreciate your time. Thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having men. That's Jason mccordy. He's now with
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football. Oh host there, former cornerback. He spent
Speaker 1: thirteen seasons in the NFL. His brother's still playing, still
Speaker 1: playing Devs, still playing for the Patriots. All right, we'll
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Speaker 1: When I joined the Live Tour, I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure that my wedges are dialed in. A lot
Speaker 1: of reaction to Charles Barkley on the show yesterday, and
Speaker 1: people are mixed, you know, as far as they love Charles,
Speaker 1: don't want to see him do it. Others like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, you shouldn't be able to do it
Speaker 1: independent contractor sure, but the Live Tour does know the
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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, okay. Jim in Michigan, Hi Jim,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Hi, Dan, I've been listening to
Speaker 1: everything you're talking about this Kyler Murray and the contract thing.
Speaker 1: I got to think that Cliff Kingsbury is a pretty
Speaker 1: smart guy. I've got to believe that those people in
Speaker 1: his organization are too, and they maybe they've tried everything
Speaker 1: to get him to do what they need him to do,
Speaker 1: and they thought this is the only way to do it. Well,
Speaker 1: then why sign him to that long term contract? Jim,
Speaker 1: If you if you don't have full trust to him,
Speaker 1: I don't think you can have partial trust for somebody
Speaker 1: you're giving two hundred and thirty million dollars too. I
Speaker 1: guess it depends on how mature this kid is. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's still a kid in a lot of people's eyes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he changes. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he wants to change. I mean he's been entitled. When
Speaker 1: you think about he's one of the more celebrated quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the history of the state of Texas, and then
Speaker 1: you get to Oklahoma, you have success there, your number
Speaker 1: one overall pick could have played baseball as unbelievable talent.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just go heah, I just go out there
Speaker 1: and play. I don't think about it, but but there
Speaker 1: has to be something there that the Cardinals see or
Speaker 1: feel for them to put it in the contract. But
Speaker 1: I you know, Jason mccordy brought up a great point, Hey,
Speaker 1: take that iPad home and we want you to watch
Speaker 1: game film. I'm gonna hit play and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do World Award Craft Art and Arizona High Art. What's
Speaker 1: on your mind, hey, Art? Well, you weren't on a
Speaker 1: hold that long. There you go? All right, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: So there had been a local article that came out
Speaker 1: about a year or two ago saying that when Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray first came in, he didn't show Larry the respect
Speaker 1: that he deserved and that was part of the reason
Speaker 1: of him getting pushed out. Also, what is going on
Speaker 1: with Larry and when can we start voting for him
Speaker 1: for you know, Hall of Fame. I guess he's on
Speaker 1: the clock. PAULI had checked this with Larry Fitzgerald. Yeah,
Speaker 1: once you stop playing in the NFL, it doesn't matter where.
Speaker 1: You don't worry about those turning in your papers. That's fictitious.
Speaker 1: He's on the clock for the Hall of Fame. Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald it restarts if he plays another NFL game. And
Speaker 1: I want to be fair to the story with Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald and Kyler Murray because I've heard some things about
Speaker 1: the relationship and but but I don't have something that's firm.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's something to it. I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what. Larry has been very complimentary if
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, but I'm not sure if that led to
Speaker 1: him not wanting to play anymore. Dave in Indianapolis, Hi, Dave,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? How are you doing? Great? Dave
Speaker 1: two fifteen five nine. And I used to work for
Speaker 1: the Colts and when everybody used VHS tapes, players would
Speaker 1: take those home to study for the next game, for
Speaker 1: the game coming up, and our video crew would fast
Speaker 1: forward the tape a little bit, and when the player
Speaker 1: turned it in for plays or the next opponent, they
Speaker 1: could tell if the if the machine rewound it all
Speaker 1: the way back, or the player stopped it at the
Speaker 1: end of the last play, if the player watched it,
Speaker 1: if it was stopped it was still at the place
Speaker 1: where they fast forward it to, then they knew the
Speaker 1: player didn't watch it at all. Yeah, all right, well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Dave. I get it, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: just like parents. I mean, there's no different. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing. You're asking your kids to do something. Did
Speaker 1: you do it? Of course I did, and they find
Speaker 1: out they didn't do it. Bob and Montana, Hi, Bob
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Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger's seventy fifth birthday of this Saturday. Given the
Speaker 1: totality of both their athletic and acting careers, who is
Speaker 1: the greatest athlete termed actor in history? Um? Well, I
Speaker 1: guess we're talking about how good of an athlete they were.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd have to give that some thought. Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, Arnold had artificial help to become the mister Olympia.
Speaker 1: And let's not kid anybody. I know you're gonna watch
Speaker 1: her back there, I know. I mean, the Rock didn't
Speaker 1: make it in the NFL, but he's certainly made it
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