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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And it's been

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Speaker 1: a great season, Mitchell. A season of excitement, turnaround, ups

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Speaker 1: a great game in the Detroit Lions versus the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Your HONOLU Blue Boys really showed up. That guy friend

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Speaker 1: of the program, Jamier Gibbs has an incredible game, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Glenn's defense shows up in a big way. And of

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Speaker 1: course they're the game of the week, the game of

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Speaker 1: the night, one of the games of the year, probably

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Speaker 1: with two of the best records in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. Mitchell, what are you feeling right now?

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Speaker 2: I don't think the NFL could have dreamed up a

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Speaker 2: better scenario to close out the season. Two teams fourteen

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot could be argued that this is

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Speaker 2: bigger than a playoff game. Right winner gets home field

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford I was in Ford Field. It was humming,

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Speaker 2: and it was buzzing, and God bless it, they dominated.

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of this team. I mean, you look

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Speaker 2: all the injuries, everything. Alexandeloni came back this game and

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Speaker 2: the defense just looked a lot different. This defense stood

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Speaker 2: still had life. Richard, I'm so proud of this franchise.

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Speaker 2: They earned the first round by They need to get

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Speaker 2: healthy now that bollteer teams are eliminated. That Halla Lulu

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Mitchell, there's a small chance that I can jump

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Speaker 1: on this bandwagon because I think America has jumped on

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Speaker 1: this bandwagon. I think you know that Dallas Cowboys they

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Speaker 1: play on Thanksgiving, YadA YadA, America's team, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: But right now, I think America's darling sweetheart is the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I think everybody feels good about this team.

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Speaker 1: What they stand for with their head coach, stands for

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Speaker 1: the culture that they built. And really there were so

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Speaker 1: thrown away, thrown away Mitchell, embraced by this fan base,

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Speaker 1: embraced by this rugged blue collar he threw away to

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm a blue collar guy, grinding it, getting

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Speaker 2: It's wild because you're going down to Ford Field and

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Speaker 1: Amik Robertson said, Hey, I grew up with this dude.

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Speaker 1: It's really something. They built something special, Mitchell. This isn't

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Richard, I am, I'm absolutely thrilled.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way to undersell this. This was

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Speaker 1: know if Miami would be open to trade him. They

428
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Speaker 1: had to trade so much to get him in the

429
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Speaker 1: first place. I think they trade what two first rounders

430
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Speaker 1: for him and paid him max money. I don't know

431
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Speaker 1: if another team is going to match that, especially you know,

432
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Speaker 1: after the year he had. He's getting older. Everybody gets older,

433
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Speaker 1: you know. But maybe there's a team out there that

434
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Speaker 1: that is willing to pay the price Miami paid for

435
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Speaker 1: him to get him to come to them. But I

436
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 1: highly doubt that's going to be a winning team. And

437
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: that's the thing, you know, you saying I want to

438
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Speaker 1: go to a winning team. There aren't any winning teams

439
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Speaker 1: that are minus a number one receiver, Like of the

440
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: teams that are one than two and three Seeds. Maybe Buffalo,

441
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe Buffalo would be can be convinced. You

442
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Speaker 1: talk about Philadelphia, they have a j Brown. You talk

443
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Speaker 1: about Detroit, they have Ama and ro You know they

444
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Speaker 1: have Jamison Williams to do that job. You talk about Baltimore.

445
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Speaker 1: Could Baltimore use him perhaps, But are they trading two

446
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Speaker 1: first rounders? I highly doubt it. And so those are

447
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: the situations you run into where you're like, I don't

448
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: know if you'll be able to get back to where

449
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Speaker 1: you were unless Kansas City is like, hey, we'll take

450
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Speaker 1: him back. But I guarantee you Kansas City is going

451
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Speaker 1: to do that for a reduced price. You know, maybe

452
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Speaker 1: they give you a third rounder, a third rounder, and

453
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Speaker 1: you know, a fifth rounder, and now they get Treek

454
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Speaker 1: killed back. I mean that sounds like the kind of

455
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Speaker 1: stuff that happens Againsas City Mitchell. So I don't put

456
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Speaker 1: it past That's exactly what I was thinking.

457
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Speaker 2: I mean, hey, the grass is not greener on the

458
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Speaker 2: other side, I'm going to go back to the lawn

459
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Speaker 2: I was mowing before direek kill. The situation of Miami's

460
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: wild But yeah, can you blame him, I don't know.

461
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Speaker 2: I mean, Richard you had that winning mentality in your

462
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: veins always as a player. Could you imagine playing for

463
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Speaker 2: a losing organization when you're entering twenty nine, thirty years old,

464
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Speaker 2: when you're still in that prime of your career.

465
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Speaker 1: No, I'd be really frustrated. But I don't think i'd

466
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Speaker 1: be looking externally to change that. I'd be looking internally.

467
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Speaker 1: I was, you know, selfishly or I guess ignorantly. I

468
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: always felt like like, no matter what situation I was in,

469
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Speaker 1: like we can improve it to win a championship. Like

470
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Speaker 1: we always had the pieces. I always felt like, hey,

471
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Speaker 1: if I'm there and our team is, like if we

472
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Speaker 1: all play together and we trust each other, like it's

473
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Speaker 1: almost like ignorance is blessed kind of deal, Like it's youth.

474
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Speaker 1: It was my youthful ignorance and energy and it worked

475
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Speaker 1: at every level. You know, in high school, we came

476
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Speaker 1: in our high school hadn't been passed the second round

477
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Speaker 1: of the playoffs in like a decade, and we were

478
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Speaker 1: freshmen with a bunch of kids who had never played

479
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Speaker 1: football before. They were all flag football players. And then

480
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Speaker 1: our sophomore year we all played JV. And then my

481
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Speaker 1: junior year we all moved up to varsity, and all

482
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Speaker 1: our varsity guys left, and so we had a really

483
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Speaker 1: young team, but we went to the championship. My junior

484
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Speaker 1: year we lost. Then my senior year we pulled it

485
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Speaker 1: together and we won the championship by over thirty points,

486
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Speaker 1: I believe. And fast forward to Stanford. We go one

487
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Speaker 1: and eleven my freshman year. By my senior year, we're

488
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Speaker 1: twelve and one and win the Orange Bowl and number

489
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Speaker 1: three in the nation. And then you fast forward to Seattle,

490
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Speaker 1: who had never won a Super Bowl, who had never

491
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Speaker 1: won anything. By my third year there, my second year,

492
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Speaker 1: we should have probably won a Super Bowl. But by

493
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: my third year, we're winning the Super Bowl, beating one

494
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Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks in the National Football League's history

495
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: by thirty five in the Super Bowl with the best defense,

496
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Speaker 1: one of the best defenses to ever play. And so

497
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Speaker 1: I think you sometimes have to look within it and

498
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: really just say, if you're that kind of guy and

499
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Speaker 1: you feel like, hey, I'm a special player, I feel

500
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Speaker 1: like the guys around you are special, then you got

501
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: to start investing in your team and investing in your

502
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Speaker 1: teammates in it, invest in the things that help with

503
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: winning and the things that take no talent, the thing,

504
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: the camaraderie, the friendships, the bonds, And I think that's

505
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Speaker 1: what I've always worked on investing in. And he's an

506
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: incredible talent. I understand his frustration, but I don't know

507
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: if the Miami Dolphins will be up. He doesn't have

508
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: the control he thinks he has, so I don't think

509
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Speaker 1: they will just let him out of there.

510
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Speaker 2: This is not the NBA, and I will see what

511
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: happens this offseason with him. Week eighteen. There's not a

512
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: whole much a whole lot on the line in terms

513
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: of a lot of these games just don't flat out matter, right.

514
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: I mean, but a lot of players are playing for

515
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: a lot of moolah, right, and we saw that. I mean,

516
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: let's talk about your Seattle Seahawks. Gino Smith made himself

517
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: six million dollars today. Geno six million, Geno. I mean,

518
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: that's a payday and a half if I've ever seen one.

519
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: You saw Mike Evans make another three million dollars today.

520
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 2: You saw Baker Mayfield make two point five million today.

521
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: I mean, Richard, these incentives are wild. I mean, how

522
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: much motivation goes into Week eighteen? Is this something obviously

523
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 2: teams think about but is it more player focus, Like

524
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 2: does management say, hey, we want to take Mike Well

525
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Speaker 2: Mike Evans out of this game. We don't want him

526
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Speaker 2: to hit that incentive. We don't want Geno Smith to

527
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: hit this smith six million dollar bonus. Is that something

528
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Speaker 2: that you think from the top down is coming in?

529
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Speaker 1: No, I don't with some teams. Maybe, you know, I

530
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: think I think Cooper Rush had a two hundred and

531
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars incentive he could have hit if he

532
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Speaker 1: would have played for the Dallas Cowboys today and they

533
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: played Trey Lance. So I'm sure some teams do it,

534
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of teams want their guys

535
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: to hit it. That's why they put them into contracts.

536
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: You can't put them in there and then take guys

537
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: out of the game. Really cool for Geno, you know,

538
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: to have seventy percent completion percentage, like the incentives he

539
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: had to hit, we're really high. And that's why I

540
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: get frustrated when when Seattle fans are like, get rid

541
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Speaker 1: of him, he sucks, Like, you know how tough it

542
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: is to complete seventy percent of your passes over a

543
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: season in the National Football League when your offensive line

544
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: has not played well the entire year and you've been

545
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: getting beat up week after week after week, it's very tough.

546
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: So shout out to Gino for having a heck of

547
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: a year under all the circumstances. Not the best year

548
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: he's had, but set a number of Seahawks records this

549
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: season for yards, completions. I think he broke his own

550
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: completion percentage record, And it really grinds my gears when

551
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: I hear fans complain and like, man, we gotta replace him.

552
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: We gotta like replace seventy percent completion percentage. I understand

553
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: he struggled in the red zone this year. That can

554
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Speaker 1: be fixed, That can be adjusted. That can be chanting.

555
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: You can do a lot worse than that under the

556
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: circumstances he was under. And if you improved the offensive line,

557
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: you you get healthier running backs. You know, maybe knine'es

558
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: healthier next year. That all affects it. The defense plays

559
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: like they like they're k full, playing like they did

560
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season after the bye week.

561
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: They played like that all season long. This is a

562
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: different team, and this team won ten games. Like you,

563
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Speaker 1: you're frustrated about all this and the guy won ten games,

564
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: seventy percent completion percentage, broken a number of records, and

565
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: won ten games, and they're saying replace him. That's where

566
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's tough. It's tough in this league because

567
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: you're not getting much better than that. Like, there are

568
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: only five guys that can literally will their team to

569
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: a playoff, to a super Bowl or to you know

570
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, to really drag their team. And even Burrow,

571
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: who was arguably the best quarterback in football right now

572
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: and if you depending on who you act, he's the best,

573
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: couldn't will his team in after starting four and eight

574
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: because they're the rest of it. His supporting cast was

575
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: so terrible that he couldn't get it done. And he

576
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: won the last five straight, still couldn't get in. And

577
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: so thinking you can just replace a guy like Geno Smith,

578
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: who was really good player and played some really good

579
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: football and is playing the best football of his life

580
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: is just silly to say. And I understand that he's

581
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: had struggles this season. The team has, and there are

582
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: things that can be corrected. A first year OC who

583
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: will get better, the first year of DC who will

584
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: get better, an offensive line that will likely get shuffled

585
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: around and some pieces replaced. You had to center retire

586
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: pretty much mid season. Things like that usually don't happen.

587
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: It's an unusual season, and they still manage to win

588
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: ten games. So great. I'm happy for Gino. I think

589
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: this was great. He earned his money, and I hope

590
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Speaker 1: he gets a contract extension and stays in Seattle for

591
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Speaker 1: a long time to come. Another guy who made some

592
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: money today and made some history. Mike Evans, one of

593
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: the best receivers in the National Football League and one

594
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: of the best receivers in the history of the National

595
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: Football League, hitting one K for the eleventh consecutive year,

596
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: tying Jerry Rice. I have not seen Mike Evans show

597
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: that level of emotion very often. You could tell how

598
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: much it meant to him, how much he meant to

599
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: his teammates, how much it meant to his family. It

600
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: was a great accomplishment and a huge win for the

601
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who jumped up to the three seed,

602
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: got a own playoff game against the Washington Commanders and

603
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: a chance to continue their season after you up and

604
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: down season. But that's a heck of an award. Three

605
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: million dollars. Well deserved. Mike, I hope this discontinues. Even

606
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: with all the miss games, you found a way to

607
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: get it done. Shout out to Baker Mayfield, who picked

608
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: up another two and a half million dollars by being

609
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: top ten in the league or top five in the

610
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: NFC at each of the five categories pass a rating,

611
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, passing yards, completion percentage in yards per attempt,

612
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: balling Mitchell. That is bawling. Baker out there cooking, found

613
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: himself a home, making himself some money. Love to see it.

614
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: And you know what we dog on this NFC South

615
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: a lot. You know, you look at the landscape of

616
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: the NFC South, the Atlanta Falcons, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

617
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: Neither team really rose above the occasion until the final week.

618
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: But you got to give a lot of credit to

619
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Baker Mayfield specifically. We

620
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: talked about the Detroit Lions and their injury adversity throughout

621
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: this entire year. The next closest comp is the Tampa

622
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers. For them to weather that storm and still

623
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: be in this position and get the three seed in

624
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs, not a whole lot of people talk about them.

625
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: I would hate to go on the road to Tampa

626
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: Bay and have to contest with them. You know, good

627
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: luck to the Washington Commanders. I know that they've been

628
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: a Cinderella story of such this year. No one expected

629
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: much of the Washington Commanders. But I'd hate to go

630
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: on the road and play against Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I'd

631
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: expect a lot out of them. Shout out to Mike Evans,

632
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Shout out to Bayker Mayfield, Richard.

633
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to Todd Bowles. You know, he's done a

634
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: hell of a job too, And that's what I'm concerned

635
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 1: about for Jayden Daniels in these playoffs. But we'll get

636
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: to that tomorrow when we're talking about the playoffs. But

637
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: he brings a lot of exotic pressures for a rookie

638
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: to see.

639
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: Well, then, no doubt about it, Richard. This concludes Week eight.

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Speaker 1: Team.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the playoffs more on our next podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm still enthusiastic as hell about the outcome of tonight's game.

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Speaker 2: I lost my voice multiple times tonight, Richard. Please sign

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Speaker 2: us off and we will meet you guys again on

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Speaker 2: the next podcast to discuss the NFL playoff landscape.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you guys again for joining us with all

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Speaker 1: the Richard Churaman Podcast. You guys have been incredible. It's

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Speaker 1: been another successful season, but the fun does not stop.

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Speaker 1: We're going all the way through the Super Bowl. I've

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Speaker 1: had a lot of fun doing this, rooting for the

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Speaker 1: teams that I played for, rooting for the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: talking about every team, your favorite teams, the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: in their crazy run through this season. It's been an

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Speaker 1: incredible run, and I thank you guys for joining us,

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Speaker 1: for staying with us, whether it's second, a minute, an hour,

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Speaker 1: we sure do appreciate you. I hope you had a

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Speaker 1: happy holidays, and I hope you're doing everything you said

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Speaker 1: you would in your New Year's resolutions, keep fighting through

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Speaker 1: love and respect. Hit that sub button if you're new.

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Speaker 1: The volume