1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Tracy D. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Wilson and I'm Holly Frying. This week we talked about 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: thief and serial prison escape artist Jack Shepherd a K 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: A John Shepherd a K. I really don't know how 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: much of what we said in this episode was actually factual, 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: and how much of it is like the same in 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: Bellish story being crept from different authors by other authors 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: and printed as new books, which was a thing in 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: the Lite in the eighteenth century. Yeah, the sensational folk 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: tale of Jack Shepherd. We I mean, we do know 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: for sure real person there. There's old Bailey records. They 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: are also you know, written records of the time. But 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: in terms of a lot of the details that are 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: pretty consistent from one account to the other, I don't 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: feel fully confident over whether that consistency is because those 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: were the correct details, or whether it's just because everybody 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: was lifting from everybody else's account, because some of those 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: came out before he died, So after question marks, questions, 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: but very fun ones. Yeah. I had said in that 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Six Impossible episodes that I was really focused on the 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: escapes that seemed really ingenious and not ones that seemed 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: like horrifying or violent in some way. And the list 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: that I had been compiling of which six things I 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: was going to talk about, had included Jack Shepherd. And 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: as I started taking notes about Jack Shephard, I was like, 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: I think this one is its own thing, though, And 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: that helped me narrow down from a list of things 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: that had been I had had like, uh, seven or 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: eight or nine potential topics that I had to narrow 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: down to six. And Jack Shephard moving into it an 32 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: own standalone episode. Uh, it was part of that. Well, 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: will say his his escape seem less ingenious and more 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: just determined as hell. Yeah. And I there was one 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: point as I was taking the notes where I just wrote, 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: who keeps giving him a saw? You gotta get some 37 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: better security if you want to stop having the guy 38 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: have a saw to saw out some bars and squeeze 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: through them. Right where do these nails keep coming from? Yeah? Uh? 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: I tried to get to to some of the social 41 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: and economic and other factors that were like leading to 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: a both crime, the fear of crime, like the perceived 43 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: the perception that there was suddenly a ton of crime, 44 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: also people's fascination with crime. Um. And you know, there 45 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: was definitely crime happening in the nineteenth century when there 46 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: was the big resurgence in Jack Shepard fame. But like 47 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: the idea that books about Jack Shepard were causing suddenly 48 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: there to be this giant It just reminded me of 49 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: so many things, like violent video games, heavy metal music, 50 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: like dungeons and dragons causing all the problems. Yeah, that's 51 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: all bless their hearts moment for me. Yeah, bless your 52 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: heart ards crime. Yeah, so many things going into crime. 53 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Do you know what they were planning to do with 54 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: a hundred and eight yards of wool, because I'm like, 55 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: I have idea. I think they were probably just planning 56 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: to sell it. Yeah. I found some number and I 57 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: didn't know how accurate the number was or how it 58 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: was arrived at. That was about how many people in 59 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: London around the seventeen thirties were basically supporting themselves through crime, 60 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: and it was stuff like stealing small items from one 61 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: place and selling them at a pawn shop or somewhere else. 62 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: Um And so I I imagine the plan had been 63 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: to sell that, although you know he could have made himself, 64 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: some ropes to climb out the prison next time he 65 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: got captured, or a fancy pair of pants that would 66 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: be a lot of pants, Maybe a disguise since he's 67 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: basically going to just go next door and try to 68 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: pretend to have a regular life. Yeah, the um there 69 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: was one thing that I had read that was the 70 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: account of somebody that that was living at the time, 71 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: and I didn't put this in the episode, but it 72 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: it had some kind of snide comments about uh, the 73 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: fact that then like then he went to just hang 74 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: out right down the road from the prison and also 75 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: like commit some more small crimes in full view of 76 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: the prison. And how maybe if he had wanted to 77 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: remain not in the prison, that some different choices could 78 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: have been made. I do love how um, his choices 79 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: are never questioned. It's always other people that just led 80 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: him to these things, where got him the tools to escape. 81 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: Right again, he was twenty when he started stealing things, 82 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: and sure he was an apprentice, he didn't have any money. 83 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: That was, he was living in a time when it 84 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: was very hard for a lot of people to get 85 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: by financially. But still, like Elizabeth Lyon, did not make 86 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: that choice for him. He made that choice his own self. 87 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: We talked about Charles Ponds Ponzi schemes this week, Holy Moses. 88 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: I read a lot of old articles in the Boston 89 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: Post for this research. The Post was not the only 90 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Boston paper reporting on at the Globe had reports to 91 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: other newspapers, and other cities also had reports. But I 92 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: stuck with a lot of the Post reporting because the 93 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: Post didn't win that Pulitzer Um. One thing that I 94 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: had in the outline that I wound up taking out 95 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: because I just did not have a great place to 96 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: put it. On the twelfth, on the day that the 97 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Post had like printed all of this stuff about. It 98 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: was a bunch of stuff that was related to Charles 99 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: Ponzi having been arrested and incarcerated in Canada. They printed 100 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: photos from his nine eight arrest and at that time 101 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: he had a mustache. He was no longer wearing a mustache, 102 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: so it printed these photos of his like nine eight mugshots, 103 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: and then below that there was a photo of him 104 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: from nine twenty, like a current photo um and it 105 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: was next to one that was captioned how Pons would 106 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: look with a mustache, and then below that was quote 107 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: the photo of Ponzi without the mustache that he wore 108 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: at the time of his arresting Canada was taking recently 109 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: for the purpose of comparing it with his Canadian pictures. 110 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: The posts artists painted one in. I found this so 111 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: hilarious that I stopped what I was doing and laughed 112 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: out loud for like a meaningful amount of time. And 113 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I knew already that the 114 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Post had won a Pulitzer for this reporting, and I 115 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: was like, I know, y'all got a pulitzer for this, 116 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: but this drawn in mustache on the photograph is funny. Um, 117 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: it looks funny on its own. The wording of the 118 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: caption was very funny to me. Uh, it brightens my day. 119 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: It makes me wonder if that isn't the start of 120 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: people drawing mustaches on picture, maybe as a form of graffiti. Yeah, yeah, 121 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: if a pulitzer comes out of it, sure. Yeah. I 122 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: didn't put this in either. But one of the other 123 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: things that had been mentioned in some spots, but it 124 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: was kind of an aside, was that the like the 125 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: specific pulitzer that the paper was awarded was related to 126 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: service for having done this reporting. That led to arrests, 127 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: and then like, that's not an award that's given regularly. 128 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: It's given when something has happened specifically that seems to 129 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: warrant it. And according to various sources that I did 130 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: not have time to like go comb through Pulitzer records. 131 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: The next time that particular UM award was also granted 132 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: was also for a Boston paper. It was for the 133 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: Boston Globe, for the Boston Globes reporting on the sex 134 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: abuse within the Catholic Church. And it was similarly like 135 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: this reporting that led to some arrests of the people 136 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: who were involved, which I thought was an interesting connection. 137 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: The Boston Post does not exist anymore at the Boston Globe, 138 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: Does I UM have the reaction to this story that 139 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: I have to so many stories of people who are 140 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: engaged in somewhat complicated criminal activities. Is this really easier 141 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: than finding a legitimate way to make money? Yeah? I 142 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: think for the very brief window of time when Charles 143 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: Bonds he had millions of dollars, that probably did feel 144 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: pretty easy, but also probably incredibly stressful because like he 145 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: knew right, he knew he was lying. Yeah, And I 146 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: think he might have thought that he could maybe transition 147 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: this into something that was like on the up and up, 148 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: like he could get to a point where he had 149 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: enough money to be seed money for something that would 150 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: not be a criminal enterprise. But like that, it didn't uh, 151 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: And a whole lot of people lost their money, and 152 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the people that lost their money lost 153 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: like their whole life savings. A lot of the people 154 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: that he had targeted were like other Italian immigrants, a 155 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: lot of whom had just come to the United States 156 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: hoping for a better life and then lost all their money. 157 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: I am most fascinated in this story though by Rose. 158 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: She is very interesting to me. I would love to 159 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: know more about her, and I'm sure there's almost nothing 160 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: available about her, but yeah, I think there are some 161 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: letters and and things like that. It does seem like 162 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: she really genuinely loved him, And I'm not totally clear 163 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: on whether she loved him and that was enough to 164 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: offset the fact that he had committed this huge crime, 165 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: or if that she more continued to believe that he 166 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: had been like just the victim of some kind of 167 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: hapless misadventure rather than having perpetuated a huge crime, or 168 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: that she was cool with crime. Yeah, I don't know. 169 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean, she knew he was troubled from the outside. 170 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: When someone's mother goes, I know you love my child, 171 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: but for real they are yes, and you go, I'm 172 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: fine with it all right. Um. One thing that I 173 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: did notice we talked about, um, some of the other 174 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: people who had perpetuated Ponzi schemes before Ponzi, and one 175 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: of them was Sarah Howe, who had like just she 176 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: had established these banks in quotation marks. They were not 177 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: really banks, but they were specifically for women, and she 178 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: had done them in all these different places. I know 179 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: somebody who works specifically as a forensic accountant and investigates fraud, 180 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: like that's their whole job, is investigating people who do 181 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: this kind of fraud or sometimes people who have done 182 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: some other kind of a crime, and she is investigating 183 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: like their financial paper trail of this crime, that kind 184 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: of stuff. Um. And one of the things that they 185 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: have expressed frustration about is that us a person will 186 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: like defraud an elderly couple, get caught, be tried, convicted, 187 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: serve their time, get released, do the exact same thing again, 188 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: and that initial conviction can't be part of the next 189 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: trial because it's considered to be prejudicial, which is incredibly frustrating. 190 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: And uh, and I like, I know people who have 191 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: been the victims of pretty serious financial fraud that just 192 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: nothing ever came of any kind of like criminal trial 193 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: for the person who perpetuated it, And it sucks. Yeah, 194 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it jeopardizes people's into your futures. Yeah. Yeah. 195 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: And there's not a lot of recourse really in many cases. Um, 196 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: I feel like in some cases there's a focus on 197 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: like financial literacy for people to protect themselves from being defrauded, 198 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: but not as much focus on preventing the fraud from 199 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: being carried out in the first place, which I mean 200 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the same thing is true from other categories of crime 201 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: as well. But still, um, a lot of the people 202 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: who are targeted are like people who are getting older 203 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: and like maybe their decision making is not as clear 204 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: as previously that kind of stuff, So it sucks. Uh. 205 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: And Charles Ponds he was one of those people who 206 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: was like so charismatic and so charming in a lot 207 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: of ways that like that may have been one of 208 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: the reasons that Rose still supported him, is that, like 209 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: he came off, it's just affable and kind and eager 210 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: to be friend. No, no, but I'm donating so much 211 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: to charity. That's the thing that always gets me, Like 212 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: the misdirection of like, I'm starting a fund for orphans. Uh, 213 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: this is all It's gonna be fine. I'm gonna did 214 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: I mentioned that I donated a bunch of money to 215 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: this cost like I'm gonna run for office. The fact 216 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: that his PR guy sued him for not paying the bills. 217 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: I was so excited about that detail until I learned 218 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: about like his counter suit and that that Ponsy won 219 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: both of them, and I was like, I was really 220 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: hoping that the guy that informed on him to the 221 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: Boston Post was then going to get to sue him 222 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: for the four thousand dollars and get it. But that's 223 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: not how that went. Nope. So anyway, that's our Charles 224 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: Palsy episode. Uh. 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