Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to the Grangersmith podcast. I'm Granger, my
Speaker 1: guest is Amber today as my wife, and I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you're with me. If you are listening on Spotify, Apple,
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Speaker 1: But my encouragement is that you comment on the YouTube
Speaker 1: version because we're going about to get into something that's
Speaker 1: gonna spark some questions here, not questions, some.
Speaker 2: Comments, comments, controversy, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, controversy. Yeah, We're we're gonna spark some things. But
Speaker 1: I'm actually genuinely interested in what the listeners of this
Speaker 1: podcast have to say about this subject. And they might
Speaker 1: already know what. I don't know what the title of
Speaker 1: this podcast is yet, but they they do, and that
Speaker 1: might be why they're wanting to know what we have
Speaker 1: to say about it. But I will say this, it's
Speaker 1: interesting you go back five years almost five years, like
Speaker 1: four point eight years ago, and we wouldn't have talked
Speaker 1: about this on a channel like this for fear that
Speaker 1: it would be shut down or shadow.
Speaker 2: Band they were taking down.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the word I remember in the
Speaker 1: in the height of COVID, the word that we used
Speaker 1: to not be able to say. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if we could still say that, honestly, I know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's.
Speaker 2: Like still something there some striker shadow band, they might.
Speaker 1: Be still kind of striking that word. Surely not. But
Speaker 1: I remember what text like Rob Turkla Lunkers TV and
Speaker 1: and Matt character demo demo Matt I would just say like, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's the status on on the the Internet's usage of
Speaker 1: these words? Can we use them? And it like progressively
Speaker 1: got worse and worse where it's like, hey, you can't
Speaker 1: see anything. Are YouTube's going to hide you in the podcast?
Speaker 1: Are going to shut you down?
Speaker 2: And I still feel like it's kind of like that
Speaker 2: on social media on certain platforms. There's some people that
Speaker 2: I follow where if they share certain things on this topic,
Speaker 2: they do make a post that says I've been shadow
Speaker 2: band or go follow this other account. They have to
Speaker 2: make separate accounts because other ones get shut down. So
Speaker 2: I feel like it's still kind of a thing. Is
Speaker 2: heavily so.
Speaker 1: But I think partly what I'm saying right now is
Speaker 1: I don't really care. Yeah, that we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about it and I just don't care.
Speaker 2: Well, it's what you and I have been talking about
Speaker 2: in the house the last couple of days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me finish that first. That first thought.
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Speaker 1: that or use that as a topic. And I have
Speaker 1: some questions we can get to if we probably will,
Speaker 1: We'll probably get to these questions. The topic at hand
Speaker 1: is something that I see a lot in the questions,
Speaker 1: and I see you and I have talked a lot
Speaker 1: about it. I was with Nicole, my publicist. I was
Speaker 1: speaking on a podcast in Nashville like three days ago,
Speaker 1: and Nicole meets me there. She lives in Nashville, and
Speaker 1: we were at this church and I was like, what's
Speaker 1: the latest, Nicole, Because she keeps up with all this
Speaker 1: stuff and correct me if I'm wrong. Everyone listening. It's
Speaker 1: the middle aged women are the dirt diggers when it
Speaker 1: comes to this kind of stuff. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I think, as far as I know, first time in history,
Speaker 1: I can't think of another era or another generation when
Speaker 1: the women were the dirt diggers of conspiracy in this country.
Speaker 1: And it's not a bad thing. It's a good thing
Speaker 1: because the dirt diggers are the usually mothers that are.
Speaker 1: It's coming from a mode of protection. It's coming from
Speaker 1: a place of I'm gonna protect uh oh, not my
Speaker 1: babies they are. They ain't gonna be dealing putting. I'm
Speaker 1: in a homeschool. I'm gonna they're gonna only eat you know,
Speaker 1: grass fed beef that mama grows in the in the
Speaker 1: at the ranch. You know, Like it's comes from a
Speaker 1: place of protection. But because of that, now there's like
Speaker 1: all these theories. And it started with she used to
Speaker 1: live in La a long time ago as a publicist,
Speaker 1: and I was like, she said, what do you want
Speaker 1: to know? And I was like, how about the fires
Speaker 1: in La? She goes, you know, She's all, oh, let
Speaker 1: me tell you, Granger, you have no idea she started
Speaker 1: talking about smart meters, utility meters, you know, like the
Speaker 1: get away from the smart one. She's like, I'm calling
Speaker 1: she lives in Nashville. She's like, I told Chip, my husband,
Speaker 1: I told him, you call the electric company and you
Speaker 1: tell them I want analog meter on our house. I
Speaker 1: don't want that smart meter anymore. I don't want them
Speaker 1: looking in and seeing seeing what we're using our utilities
Speaker 1: or whatever else. You know, there's a lot of other theories.
Speaker 1: She's talking about them exploding in LA and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and like being detonated. And I was like, what what
Speaker 1: social media accounts do you follow? And she's like, a
Speaker 1: lot of them, I'll show you.
Speaker 2: Well to think about that is if you start following
Speaker 2: those that gets in your algorithm and that's all you see,
Speaker 2: then you just keep going down the conspiracy rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: I mean, she gardens. She's been gardening for like two
Speaker 1: years straight, just garden, like doing well. But then she
Speaker 1: was she had she admitted in Nashville. She's like, I'm
Speaker 1: still really into gardening, but I'm starting to lose a
Speaker 1: little bit of hope because they're raining down those chemicals
Speaker 1: on my garden. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many conspiracy theories and this, yes, many
Speaker 2: people will comment lots of conspiracies.
Speaker 1: And she's a Christian, so she's you know, she's blaming
Speaker 1: everything on the enemy. It's like, this is all an
Speaker 1: attack from the thief that comes to steel keel and destroy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know her uh, her father in law's long time
Speaker 1: Baptist pastors. So she's but but she's taken it. She's
Speaker 1: taken on that role much more than Chip. I was like,
Speaker 1: what does Chip think about all this? And she didn't
Speaker 1: really answer, But I think because I know Chip, I
Speaker 1: love him to death, and he's probably like, all right, babe,
Speaker 1: you do your thing. You know, I'll call the electric
Speaker 1: company and tell him I want to Analog met her
Speaker 1: on the house, so let's get into what we want
Speaker 1: to say, and so that that kind of led me
Speaker 1: to what we What happened during that conversation about fires
Speaker 1: and kim trails and everything else, Nichols talking about it
Speaker 1: kind of led me. And by the way, ant Man,
Speaker 1: who produces the show, he's he's really informed on this
Speaker 1: stuff too. That got that got our conversation to a lament,
Speaker 1: And that lament between Nicole and I was me and
Speaker 1: her are the only two in each of our families
Speaker 1: that were vaccinated. Yeah, and both of us got vaccinated
Speaker 1: because of our job, because you know, at the time,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it and we lamented that decision
Speaker 1: that we made. And you know, I was going to Canada.
Speaker 2: I remember at the time, I was pregnant. You were pregnant,
Speaker 2: so you were trying to you were trying to protect
Speaker 2: me and the baby and the family because you were
Speaker 2: traveling so much. So that's why you decided to go
Speaker 2: ahead and get the vaccine.
Speaker 1: And we just legitimately didn't know. Yeah, And anyone listening
Speaker 1: right now that thinks they knew, they didn't. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You just didn't because no one knew. We thought we knew.
Speaker 1: We didn't want to, no one wanted to get vaccinated.
Speaker 2: So in my crew, yeah, I think that's all over
Speaker 2: the world. So many people were forced to and if you,
Speaker 2: if you didn't do it, you lost your job.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I didn't do that with my band and crew.
Speaker 1: That that's not something I said. I didn't say you're
Speaker 1: going to lose your job over this. I did tell
Speaker 1: everybody if you if we're going to a venue, and
Speaker 1: a lot of them were checking vaccines during that time.
Speaker 1: If we're going to a venue and they're checking vaccines,
Speaker 1: you either need to hide, or you need to disappear,
Speaker 1: or you need to find someone that can come replace
Speaker 1: you for that day. Please, I said, Look, guys, I said,
Speaker 1: I love you. I would never tell you to get vaccinated.
Speaker 1: That's just not my personality. I would never force that
Speaker 1: on you. But please don't make that your decision. Don't
Speaker 1: please don't make that a problem for me that then
Speaker 1: I have to replace a bus driver or a guitar
Speaker 1: player or a drummer, Like, will you please, let's figure
Speaker 1: this out. Either we all vote against it and none
Speaker 1: of us tour, which is an impossible decision when bills
Speaker 1: need to be paid. Anyway, that's so, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: just as.
Speaker 2: They were making the artists get vaccinated, were they checking
Speaker 2: the people coming in the door to the shows?
Speaker 1: What we found during that time was that most of
Speaker 1: the time they were telling us that. They were telling
Speaker 1: Chris that as he advanced the show, like make sure everyone.
Speaker 1: You know, the city's making sure every even the bands
Speaker 1: are all vaccinated. Anyone backstage, we need to check your
Speaker 1: vaccine card otherwise you can't come and what we learned
Speaker 1: was that was like the police chief and all them
Speaker 1: pushing that on the theaters and the venues. But when
Speaker 1: we got there, they would be like, we don't care,
Speaker 1: you can come on in. We're like what you told
Speaker 1: us to They're like, yeah, as long as the police
Speaker 1: chief's not here or as long as they're not checking
Speaker 1: in on us, just don't say anything. So that's what
Speaker 1: it always turned out to be. So like bull who
Speaker 1: never got vaccinated, butch never got vaccinated, and they were
Speaker 1: just like, okay, they took my deal. They were like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna drive, We're going to go, and we'll just
Speaker 1: play the odds, like if it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: we'll make a fake card or we'll disappear around the
Speaker 1: end of the dumpster, but we're going to take our
Speaker 1: chances to just go. And they that gamble paid off.
Speaker 2: Was there ever a time that y'all weren't allowed to play?
Speaker 1: No, there was. I think Dell Diamond and Round Rock Sexes.
Speaker 1: You remember that, Yeah, I think they kept like the
Speaker 1: non vaccinated crew like back I don't know, I can't
Speaker 1: really remember. It's such a vague fog in my mind.
Speaker 1: But then we went across to Canada. That was like
Speaker 1: the big one, you know, those Canadians, those guards at
Speaker 1: the board. We all pulled out our vaccine cards and
Speaker 1: they were like, I don't want to see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I thought about it, and I was like, of
Speaker 1: course you don't want to see that. Why would you
Speaker 1: want to see this little cardboard piece of paper signed
Speaker 1: by Walgreens? What does that mean for a border patrol
Speaker 1: agent in Canada looking at some employee in Walgreens in Georgetown,
Speaker 1: Texas that just scribbled something on.
Speaker 2: A card that could be easily manipulated.
Speaker 1: I don't care. They were like, go but you Moore,
Speaker 1: were like, yes, here we go, you know, in fact,
Speaker 1: in fact, no now in my memory, in fact, I
Speaker 1: think they took us like all the way to the
Speaker 1: border and then we we ended up some somehow, We
Speaker 1: ended up going over and renting gear or something without them,
Speaker 1: and they stayed for a couple of days in a
Speaker 1: border town like Buffalo, New York, Detroit or something. Frustrating.
Speaker 1: So Nicole and I back to the story, we lamented
Speaker 1: that she and I got vaccinated and I got a
Speaker 1: booster and she got a booster to keep our jobs
Speaker 1: just because we didn't know, but then we then we
Speaker 1: were grateful and thankful to God that chip didn't and
Speaker 1: you didn't, and the kids didn't, None of our kids did.
Speaker 1: She has two kids and we have three. Maverick, you know,
Speaker 1: when he was born, the second he breathed oxygen, they
Speaker 1: gave him a COVID test.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I had COVID.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you actually had COVID. Crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there was so much conspiracy all around throughout
Speaker 2: those years of what was in the vaccine and was
Speaker 2: it hurting people? But then as time went on, you
Speaker 2: started hearing stories of effects possibly from the vaccine. So
Speaker 2: that's how you and I got on the subject of
Speaker 2: it the last couple of days. Yeah, we're problems that
Speaker 2: people were having cardiovascular problems, strokes, sudden death, you know,
Speaker 2: people were did you remember seeing all the like the
Speaker 2: comedians and people would be on stage and they would
Speaker 2: just fall over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gone football players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was just a lot of people
Speaker 2: were just were just passing away. And there's that documentary
Speaker 2: called Died Suddenly, and I think it was in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two and it was in Balmers and funeral and
Speaker 2: funeral homes that were looking at these deceased people and
Speaker 2: finding these long, white like look like ribbon looking things
Speaker 2: inside their veins of people that were vaccinated that were
Speaker 2: causing like these clots. Now, that is since people have
Speaker 2: since discounted that documentary as you know, like people will
Speaker 2: say that it's not fact checked and all that, So
Speaker 2: I can't say what's true. All I can say is
Speaker 2: that these people said that that's what they saw as
Speaker 2: they were embalming these people and people in my life
Speaker 2: have started to have issues, and so it just got be.
Speaker 1: Thinking before you go there, though, have they sense debunked?
Speaker 1: Art note? Have they sense come out and said, is
Speaker 1: anyone of authority said yes, indeed the vaccines have caused problems.
Speaker 2: No, but I'll get to our story or to what
Speaker 2: you and I were talking about. But what website is this?
Speaker 2: My mom said this to me, But it says together
Speaker 2: with their growing number of COVID nineteen vaccine receivers, a
Speaker 2: range of vaccine related complications, including cardiovascular ones, have been
Speaker 2: reported worldwide. And there's also been a significant increase in
Speaker 2: blood pressure, which is what my mom's been dealing with lately.
Speaker 2: Like she's had good blood pressure all of her life.
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, she's at like two hundred
Speaker 2: and she had the vaccine in twenty twenty one. But
Speaker 2: it just made me think, and I asked her, I said,
Speaker 2: you got vaccinated. She worked in the medical field, so
Speaker 2: she had to. She had three three shots, the boosters
Speaker 2: and everything. And then my stepdad had an episode when
Speaker 2: we were in Idaho recently, and it just got me
Speaker 2: thinking he was vaccinated too, because like, these things are
Speaker 2: starting to happen, and of course they're getting older and
Speaker 2: it could just be their age, but there's just stories
Speaker 2: of people having problems with the vaccine. So I would
Speaker 2: be interested to know, you know, if people in the
Speaker 2: comments have had issues of being vaccinated and stroke symptoms
Speaker 2: or so.
Speaker 1: I'm going to read recorded that. I'm going to read
Speaker 1: something here coming up that Nicole sent me and then
Speaker 1: have people kind of get involved on YouTube here if
Speaker 1: you tube lets them, but maybe they won't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's more important to talk about it than
Speaker 1: worry about if youtubes. I'm not gonna let it. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's a it's interesting. And you remember Moonrise,
Speaker 1: Oh we all got Drick.
Speaker 2: They were we all had to go get tested what
Speaker 2: like every time we came to set ridiculous around.
Speaker 1: Debbie was her name, sweet sweet lady. Yeah, she was okay,
Speaker 1: she was. She was very sweetly and I gave her
Speaker 1: big problems because you know, I'm genuine. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: a nice guy. I try to be a nice guy,
Speaker 1: and especially to a sweet woman that's about my mother's age.
Speaker 1: I would always be sweet, but I was pretty firm
Speaker 1: with her. I was like, Debbie, you can't keep doing
Speaker 1: this because the problem was Dusty had COVID or or
Speaker 1: he tested positive. Yeah, and we're shooting the dance hall
Speaker 1: scene and they're just like relentless about these stupid COVID checks,
Speaker 1: you know, every day. And she comes on the bus,
Speaker 1: wildf IER's there and we're all up there. Montana was there.
Speaker 1: She comes up there and goes, can I see Dustin
Speaker 1: Saxton And he's like h And she's like, you tested
Speaker 1: positive and we're like okay, so we're gonna go play, right.
Speaker 1: She was like, I have to ask him to leave.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? We're about the film? A movie?
Speaker 1: Yeah you remember that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't your co star have it? Or they sent
Speaker 2: home like the first week.
Speaker 1: Or something, or no, or it was like a thread
Speaker 1: of it or the threat.
Speaker 2: Of it, or something something happened and somebody was so
Speaker 2: worried about it. Crazy.
Speaker 1: So if you watch the movie, Blake Stewart is playing drums.
Speaker 1: This my sound guy, Blake instead of love him the desk.
Speaker 1: So glad he was able to do it. But they
Speaker 1: sent Dusty home and every day she would come back
Speaker 1: in and as the movie continued to we continue to
Speaker 1: shoot it. I got to this point where I just
Speaker 1: wanted to finish it, like, let me just finish, and
Speaker 1: the weather was delaying us. We're having all these problems
Speaker 1: with just finishing the movie. I had tour dates coming.
Speaker 1: I needed to finish the movie. So she'd come on
Speaker 1: the bus in the morning. Like with that COVID test,
Speaker 1: I go nope, knowing that if I tested positive, they
Speaker 1: would delay the whole movie a week. And I was
Speaker 1: like nope.
Speaker 2: She's like, Granger, I have Toby.
Speaker 1: I love you, but you're not touching my nose. You're
Speaker 1: not touching me with that thing. She was like, honey,
Speaker 1: I have to that's my job. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you're not touching my nose, Debbie, And it would like
Speaker 1: get a little heated like that.
Speaker 2: And I remember those COVID tests and I remember I
Speaker 2: had to take one one time, and I swear there
Speaker 2: was something on the end of that Q tip, something chemical,
Speaker 2: and I it was not. And then I got scared,
Speaker 2: like what did I just put in my nose? Like
Speaker 2: what were they? But I went down the conspiracy hole
Speaker 2: theory thinking I just injected myself with something up in
Speaker 2: my nose. It was just you never knew. And then
Speaker 2: there was like false testing. It was just it was
Speaker 2: a big mess. Yeah. But anyway, all that to say,
Speaker 2: there's just been some issues with people in my family
Speaker 2: and it just made me think all of those people
Speaker 2: have been vaccinated.
Speaker 1: Fact, let's take a break and then tell me what
Speaker 1: your mom's saying.
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Speaker 1: So tell me about your mom. This is recently, and
Speaker 1: this is significant because of who your mom is. Why
Speaker 1: do you say that because she worked decades in healthcare
Speaker 1: in a hospital and your mother, I say that because
Speaker 1: she's she doesn't do anything without research or without thinking.
Speaker 1: She's very detail oriented, she's very protective, she would she's
Speaker 1: not She's not loose with the things that she does no,
Speaker 1: she's not. She's especially medical things, right.
Speaker 2: She's also by the book, like she will do what
Speaker 2: she's supposed to do in rules.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. So there's a little combination
Speaker 1: of like she's very protective and she uses by the
Speaker 1: book to do that. I wish we could have known
Speaker 1: her when she was like eight years old. I bet
Speaker 1: she was like that girl and she was like, everyone,
Speaker 1: sit down and put your hands in your lap.
Speaker 2: That's so true.
Speaker 1: So she worked in a hospital for thirty years.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, she wasn't a nurse or anything. She just
Speaker 2: worked in another part.
Speaker 1: In accounting and so, but she was around medical staff,
Speaker 1: doctor's patients, sometimes patients. She heard the whatever latest, the
Speaker 1: latest news was anything in the world. Your mom heard
Speaker 1: it because she was there. She lived it for decades.
Speaker 1: And so when when COVID hit and she was like,
Speaker 1: we should get vaccinated, and and you were like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean do we know that? And your mom was like, look,
Speaker 1: I've been talking to these doctors. They're my friends, I
Speaker 1: love them, my colleagues. They're very smart, and they're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: all the data says we should get vaccinated to be safe.
Speaker 1: And so you and Granger and the kids all need
Speaker 1: to get vaccinated. Do you remember that, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean i'd trying to remember that long ago.
Speaker 1: And for you, because she was worried because you didn't
Speaker 1: You're like, no, I'm not going to do it. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of reasons, partly because I was like,
Speaker 1: don't do it. And another reason was you were pregnant
Speaker 1: or trying to get pregnant or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and that we were definitely in the midst
Speaker 2: of planning or pregnancy for sure.
Speaker 1: And we certainly were not going to get.
Speaker 2: Our kids well, because she got vaccinated in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: and that's when Maverick was born, so I was pregnant.
Speaker 1: Fast forward now she's retired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she Actually I think she got vaccinated for the grandkids.
Speaker 2: If I think about it correctly. She wanted to protect
Speaker 2: her family.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you ninety nine percent of people that got
Speaker 1: vaccinated that are listening right now or like, I did
Speaker 1: it not as a selfish thing. I did it to
Speaker 1: protect my grandmother or my elderly parents, or the babies, or.
Speaker 2: The or immuno compromise people with cancer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or my spouse. You know. Yeah, that's why people
Speaker 1: did it. So This is not a blame at all.
Speaker 1: We were all duped on this thing. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: So now fast forward, she's retired and she's having complications.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just all of a sudden, she has extremely
Speaker 2: high blood pressure that kind of came out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: and it may be genetically predisposed. My grandmother did have it,
Speaker 2: but for it to flip so suddenly was just it
Speaker 2: just made me think, well, you were vaccinated. And then
Speaker 2: my stepdad had an episode almost like I hope you
Speaker 2: wouldn't be upset that I was saying this, but just
Speaker 2: an episode, like a medical episode, and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: he was vaccinated too, And so it just got me thinking,
Speaker 2: all these people in our lives that have suddenly had
Speaker 2: something complicating, were they vaccinated? And so that's what Grangeer
Speaker 2: and I've just been talking about in the house. I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just I would be curious to see
Speaker 2: if other people have had those problems as well. And
Speaker 2: then it got him saying, well, I was vaccinated, and
Speaker 2: I said, I know, I've been praying for you just
Speaker 2: in case, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, So what is your mom saying? That's what I
Speaker 1: want to know. The person that was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want I want everyone to get vaccinated. I've listened to
Speaker 1: the doggs. Now what does she sing?
Speaker 2: It's just making her think like, oh, maybe that could
Speaker 2: be a possibility. So she's just going to her PCP
Speaker 2: and she's going to see a cardiologist and just kind
Speaker 2: of get all checked out because it's done. Now, Like
Speaker 2: she's been vaccinated. So where do you go from here?
Speaker 1: How many boosters she's had?
Speaker 2: I think she had three shots.
Speaker 1: So that's is that two boosters?
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe one and then two boosters made
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't remember. Yeah, you had two.
Speaker 1: I got the main shot and then I got a booster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's and then there's another lady. Oh god, he's gone.
Speaker 2: That's not funny. That's not funny. No, it's not there's
Speaker 2: another lady in her hospital who is now in the
Speaker 2: ICU with complications, and I was wondering if she had
Speaker 2: been vaccined. You know, I don't know, but they are
Speaker 2: in their sixties. It just seems it just seems strange
Speaker 2: that everybody at the same time is having something going on,
Speaker 2: and they were all seemed to vaccinated around the same time.
Speaker 2: Maybe think so one of.
Speaker 1: My theories on that, like if it was a conspiracy
Speaker 1: to actually hurt us or to manipulate us, they didn't
Speaker 1: do a very good job because there's not that many
Speaker 1: people that are.
Speaker 2: Sick, right, I mean I read something that said something
Speaker 2: like over sixty three percent of the population did get vaccinated.
Speaker 1: So a very small percentage out of that are actually sick. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're listening and you know somebody or you have
Speaker 1: been sick, or you know somebody that's been sick and
Speaker 1: have some kind of complication that you think might be
Speaker 1: from that vaccine comment below, we'll get a maybe we'll
Speaker 1: see maybe there's more people than we think.
Speaker 2: And Mike Granger said, this is not a condemnation type thing.
Speaker 2: This is just something we've been talking about in the
Speaker 2: house and just something that kind of sparked our our thinking.
Speaker 1: So so Nicole sent me this and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: send me something. I'm going to get on the podcast
Speaker 1: and talk about this. And she said, she said, check
Speaker 1: your Instagram DM.
Speaker 2: I bet she said it in that exact voice.
Speaker 1: So it's this. What was the text. It was this
Speaker 1: account that I guess they're doing the same thing I'm doing.
Speaker 1: They're saying, hey, I've all my followers. Do you guys
Speaker 1: have any complications? I'm curious. Here's what it says. I
Speaker 1: became suspicious of the job back in January twenty one
Speaker 1: when my nephew's girlfriend had a few colleagues in Salt
Speaker 1: Lake City who were healthy in her mid twenties, and
Speaker 1: she decided to take one of the first off her jobs.
Speaker 1: She died about twenty minutes after she got the shot.
Speaker 1: This stunned all who worked with her in the medical
Speaker 1: clinic where she was employed. Her tragedy was only briefly
Speaker 1: mentioned on a local news station. I think that clinic
Speaker 1: declined or decided as a team that they would decline
Speaker 1: getting the shot. The team of medical professionals at the
Speaker 1: clinic where my nephew's girlfriend worked also decided to decline
Speaker 1: getting the JAB. And so then she's offering who else
Speaker 1: has seen something like this? And then here's some like
Speaker 1: it's just like at Instagram where it's all the stories.
Speaker 1: It's thousands of stories. My friend's dad had eight boosters,
Speaker 1: but shortly after the eight he started having blood clots
Speaker 1: everywhere and almost died. Thankfully, he is now okay. My
Speaker 1: next door neighbor died suddenly the spring cardiac arrest in
Speaker 1: his garage. I was working in the garden when all
Speaker 1: this commotion happened. My mom received the first morderna. Two
Speaker 1: months later, she was diagnosed with breast cancer and has
Speaker 1: since had amsectomy. Lots of my insurance clients are coming
Speaker 1: down with things more than any point in twenty years
Speaker 1: in my business. One family member got cancer and died
Speaker 1: within a year, one friend heart attack in her thirties
Speaker 1: within one year. The high school one high school student
Speaker 1: dead within a year. These are all separate people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a lot of what was coming out
Speaker 2: at first was all these cardiac arrests in like thirty
Speaker 2: year olds.
Speaker 1: And another thing is important that these people are dming
Speaker 1: so it's private, right, So, and they're all anonymous because
Speaker 1: they're not. They don't want to they're not sure what
Speaker 1: to say. This person said, I didn't want to comment publicly,
Speaker 1: but I have a sister in law who got the
Speaker 1: vaccine and boosters just to have a double missectomy and
Speaker 1: will now have to go through chemo. Her daughter, who
Speaker 1: was perfectly normal before the VACS plus boost, was diagnosed
Speaker 1: with multiple autoimmune conditions starting started having neurological symptoms and
Speaker 1: was just diagnosed with turets. Hard to say if they
Speaker 1: have had some of these conditions without the shots, but
Speaker 1: it's definitely suspect. And on and on and on and
Speaker 1: on and on these stories of people look at this,
Speaker 1: it's just I mean, I consider and look how many
Speaker 1: these stories. There's a hundred of them. My cousin's husband
Speaker 1: dropped dead on Thanksgiving blood clot and his lungs two
Speaker 1: weeks after getting the shot. He was a strong, healthy,
Speaker 1: forty five year old.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, there's so many stories, hundreds of thousands
Speaker 2: of stories about people with the COVID vaccine. But then
Speaker 2: there's also hundreds of thousands of stories of just the
Speaker 2: children's vaccine.
Speaker 1: My seventy five year old grandma, My seventy six year
Speaker 1: old grandma started her period again. That's what it says. Wow,
Speaker 1: I feel like this podcast is going to get muted. Probably,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get shadow.
Speaker 2: It's gonna have like a big thing. This is false
Speaker 2: fact checks something something, which is what we're saying. We
Speaker 2: don't know. We're just having a conversation about it. It's
Speaker 2: not like we're saying one is right or wrong at
Speaker 2: least I'm not. I don't know. I was just thinking
Speaker 2: about people in my life who have been vaccinated who
Speaker 2: are now seeming to have complications. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they're related or not.
Speaker 1: My friend's husband took the shot, had a heart attack.
Speaker 1: He was found to be full of blood clots. The
Speaker 1: cardiologist acknowledged it was from the shot, but the primary
Speaker 1: care denied it. The cardiologists acknowledged it was from the shot.
Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of this blood clot thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it's either heart attacks or lungs or clots or
Speaker 1: all these things. It's so so bizarre. Honestly, this person
Speaker 1: says it's genocide. If the masses ever wake up, they'll
Speaker 1: understand why many of us are screaming from the mountaintops.
Speaker 1: I haven't thought too much about it. Thanks Nicole for
Speaker 1: you know, bringing this back. My thirty year old niece
Speaker 1: got the JAB when she was pregnant four years ago,
Speaker 1: has had all the boosters now all have leukemia.
Speaker 2: All all like her and her yeah unborn yeah or baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The cases of cancer among people I know is
Speaker 1: outrageously high. Statistics show that cancer is four hundred, four
Speaker 1: hundred times more since COVID vaccines have come out, but
Speaker 1: people that believe the COVID vaccines are safe and effective
Speaker 1: don't even realize the cancer is four hundred times more
Speaker 1: since starting this vaccine.
Speaker 2: The sad thing is is that there's I mean there's
Speaker 2: everything from environmental to the food that we're eating. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's so many things that can cause all of these
Speaker 2: issues in our bodies, and it is it's such a
Speaker 2: struggle to wrestle with that. We know that as you
Speaker 2: talk about on this podcast about our Lord being sovereign
Speaker 2: and all of our days are numbered, you know. So
Speaker 2: it stops me from wanting to go down these rabbit
Speaker 2: holes of conspiracy because you just you just go on
Speaker 2: a turning wheel.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it's a conversation. We wouldn't I wouldn't dare
Speaker 1: do a podcast with my name on it that we didn't.
Speaker 1: We left people without hope, We left people worrying at
Speaker 1: the end, think well I got it, or my husband
Speaker 1: got it, or my kids got it, and Granger's gotten everything.
Speaker 1: You got me scared now, So I think we know,
Speaker 1: I think there's two things, you know, we could take
Speaker 1: away because I am one of the people that's you know,
Speaker 1: got it, and I promise you though I don't worry
Speaker 1: one bit about my life, I don't either, but I
Speaker 1: especially about death. I am not scared of death, you
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 2: And I am not worried for my mom or my
Speaker 2: stepdad or anybody who got it. It's just something that
Speaker 2: popped into my mind that are is that correlated or not?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So two things, One just top the top of
Speaker 1: my head. One we we should be responsible. It would
Speaker 1: be a sin for me to be irresponsible with my body.
Speaker 1: So like, for instance, I wouldn't say I ain't scared
Speaker 1: to death. I'll be out there and bungee jump off
Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon, you know, or skydive off, you know,
Speaker 1: the Empire State Building, because you know why, Jesus is
Speaker 1: my savior and I'm not scared. That would be a
Speaker 1: sin because that would be taking this body that I have,
Speaker 1: this this tent for his glory to tell people the
Speaker 1: message of redemption that we have from the blood of Christ.
Speaker 1: And it would be a sin to treat that carelessly
Speaker 1: in a way that was self serving and seeking adrenaline.
Speaker 1: Or and I think you could also add that would
Speaker 1: be irresponsible to take vaccines if you had any idea
Speaker 1: that they could be some kind of malpractice. So we
Speaker 1: know that, let's be responsible. And if we know moving
Speaker 1: forward that we should be more cautious about things like this,
Speaker 1: let's be more cautious. Not because we're trying to extend
Speaker 1: our life that outside of God's sovereignty and live more
Speaker 1: days on earth than we were ever supposed to have anyway,
Speaker 1: but because we should be responsible with the God given
Speaker 1: gift of our bodies that are temples for the Holy
Speaker 1: Spirit to carry out his message. That's a waitist, that's
Speaker 1: a way to say it. Second, that's the first thing.
Speaker 1: And the secondly, God knows every day is numbered for us.
Speaker 1: He knows every hair on our head. He knows before
Speaker 1: we were even formed, all the days that were formed
Speaker 1: for us. Our days are numbered by Him before we
Speaker 1: were even created. There is no there is no tricking that,
Speaker 1: there's no manipulating that. So those two things. The Bible
Speaker 1: does this all the time. Christianity, a walk with Jesus
Speaker 1: carries two truths simultaneously intention with each other. And so
Speaker 1: in this case, the tension is let's be responsible, let's
Speaker 1: care for our bodies in responsible way, not in an
Speaker 1: idolistic way like not idolized with uh, you know, facial
Speaker 1: facial reconstruction and you know that kind of thing. Let's
Speaker 1: let's be respectful and let's stay healthy, and let's be
Speaker 1: aware of things like vaccines and prayerful and if you
Speaker 1: know vaccines. I heard Rogan say this before twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: He said, I would have said vacuum vaccines are maybe
Speaker 1: the greatest invention in human history.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, afterwards, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2: It got rid of so many different diseases.
Speaker 1: So let's be responsible and not not discount the actual
Speaker 1: medical uh triumph that is a vaccine when it's done
Speaker 1: the right way, like polio, smallpox. But let's be responsible,
Speaker 1: let's do our research. And then the other the other side,
Speaker 1: the other fist of tension is God is sovereign and
Speaker 1: he's he's already written, he's already written your days. So
Speaker 1: trust him because his life is a vapor. It's finite,
Speaker 1: and we'll be gone, yeah, before you know it. It's
Speaker 1: the Bible oftentimes uses the flower of the grass, and
Speaker 1: in Texas we see that a lot. We see grass
Speaker 1: in the spring it comes up and there's there's an
Speaker 1: area on our on our in our front yard that
Speaker 1: I know for a fact, because I've I dug in
Speaker 1: it the other day. It has like six inches of
Speaker 1: soil and everything else of solid rock. So because of that,
Speaker 1: the the grass just doesn't do very well, except for
Speaker 1: in the wet spring the grass will come up and
Speaker 1: these little flowers of the grass come up and look beautiful.
Speaker 1: And it's right in our driveway because you'll drive by
Speaker 1: it and you'll look at it and go, wow, everything
Speaker 1: looks so pretty, all these pretty flowers. And as soon
Speaker 1: as it heats up enough in that rock underneath he up,
Speaker 1: it fades and burns up. By Jesus says, like in
Speaker 1: an oven, like the analogy of an oven, it literally
Speaker 1: burns up and it's gone. And so that's an analogy
Speaker 1: of our life. The Bible uses that. Isaiah uses that
Speaker 1: in Isaiah forty, the Sermon on the Mount. James uses
Speaker 1: that in James one. The all these analogies, so that's
Speaker 1: Matthew six, James one, Isaiah forty. All say, your life
Speaker 1: is like grasp bro your life is like grass withers
Speaker 1: and fades. So what will you do with it today?
Speaker 1: And that's not a call for self help, that's not
Speaker 1: a call to live your best life. Now, that's a
Speaker 1: call to know what your purpose is now and in
Speaker 1: the meantime, you're responsible with the vessel that you've been given.
Speaker 1: That's all this conversation is. So, don't ever hear me
Speaker 1: on this podcast, man, you call me out on YouTube,
Speaker 1: call me out if I ever start some kind of
Speaker 1: conspiracy that ends up being doom and gloom. And I
Speaker 1: end the podcast and I say so everyone, good luck.
Speaker 1: The Deep States out to get us, you know, don't ever.
Speaker 1: They're they're blowing up our homes with with digital monitors,
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're they're putting all the chemicals in
Speaker 1: the air from the Kim trails and airplanes. They're killing us.
Speaker 1: All the Chinese are listening to. It's like, if I
Speaker 1: ever leave you with something like that, call me out
Speaker 1: and rebuke me, because that's this podcast should always be
Speaker 1: beligned and the foundation of it should be hope. And
Speaker 1: you're smiling like I'm gonna tie raid right now.
Speaker 2: No, I just I'm listening. I'm agreeing. The Lord is
Speaker 2: not surprised by any of this whatsoever.
Speaker 1: No, that's true, none of it.
Speaker 2: And we don't know how this all fits into his plan.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Here's what we know is that the world is not
Speaker 2: the way that it's supposed to be, but He is
Speaker 2: redeeming all things. So with that, those truth that you
Speaker 2: talked about, they run parallel.
Speaker 1: While we've been talking, Nicole has sent Okay, there's several
Speaker 1: links of websites censored, censored autopsies. Study confirms COVID vaccines
Speaker 1: caused seventy four percent of the deaths in this particular place.
Speaker 1: Another one shocking report out about COVID vaccine injuries, and
Speaker 1: then never seen before Siri, Aaron Siri, I just said
Speaker 1: that word. My phone lights up. Aaron Siri reveals the
Speaker 1: shocking truth behind vaccine trails trials. Sorry, I'm getting too
Speaker 1: many conspiracies mixed up and my phone is currently listening
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Do not be anxious about anything, Yeah, but instead pray
Speaker 2: about everything you can allow yourself. And I love Nicole
Speaker 2: to death. I adore her, and like you said.
Speaker 1: It comes from it, It comes from.
Speaker 2: Motherly you and I you know, I love that. But
Speaker 2: we also have to be careful because if you live
Speaker 2: in that world, that's the rabbit hole that you go down,
Speaker 2: and then it can make you anxious and scared and frustrated.
Speaker 2: And worried and you just don't want to live in
Speaker 2: that space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of that. So we'll finish it with this comment below.
Speaker 1: If whatever you're listening wherever, whatever platform, go to YouTube
Speaker 1: and let us know your thoughts. Let us know your
Speaker 1: thoughts about all of it. I mean, rebuke me on
Speaker 1: all of it and say, graindeer, why do you even
Speaker 1: bring this up? Now, I'm anxious because you even brought
Speaker 1: it up. That would not be my intention. I'd just
Speaker 1: like to get us thinking, Yeah, yeah, let us know
Speaker 1: if you've had injuries or if you know of any
Speaker 1: situations where this has happened, let me know that. Maybe
Speaker 1: we can you and I can come back and kind
Speaker 1: of review what people say. We could do a follow
Speaker 1: up episode about that, and and then and also comment
Speaker 1: about your the anxiousness and the foundation that we have,
Speaker 1: and we'll kind of review all this. I think it
Speaker 1: would be helpful and encouraging for all of this.
Speaker 2: I agree. We got zero questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't get any questions. That's okay. Cindy, my
Speaker 1: mother in law, sure love you, love you, Mama, Sure
Speaker 1: love you, Mama, Nicole, sure love you. All the people
Speaker 1: that we mentioned today, Thank you for the for the
Speaker 1: content and you listening. Appreciate you, sure love you. See
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