WEBVTT - How To Win On and Off The Field

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, man, bro, thank you for being here, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>having me making the drive at.

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<v Speaker 2>The long two hours and fifteen minutes. It's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be two forty five. But God hasn't sanctified my speed

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<v Speaker 2>limit driving yet. Okay, He's working on me. Okay, obeying

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<v Speaker 2>all the laws and ordinance of man.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that's one of the last things to be

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<v Speaker 1>sactified in. So I was telling my son Lincoln, who's eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, you know my buddy Heath Evans, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's coming for the podcast today. He is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's Super Bowl winner, right. He goes who

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<v Speaker 1>did he play for? I was like, well, Patriots for one,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, Daddy, you think he has Tom Brady's

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone number. I was like, that's that's where your

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<v Speaker 1>mind's going like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just God's he's affectionate towards Tom Brady and got

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<v Speaker 2>some YouTuber or something, you know. To me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a real hero.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's this is part of my bigger

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<v Speaker 1>frustration and maybe you know this. Kids these days don't

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<v Speaker 1>have teams anymore. They have players. Yeah, have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>that trend?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, so our four adopted little's right, I

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<v Speaker 2>got I got two loyal boys to Dad, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I've got the oldest loyal boy to mom. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>a suffering Cowboys fan just because Mom was born here

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas. So she's of course got a roof for

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys and the little Noel. She just she's just

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<v Speaker 2>Mama's girls. So it just is what it is. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those boys they love Daddy's teams or they love Mama's team,

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<v Speaker 2>and all all of our teams collectively, Cowboys, Patriots, Saints,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just we're on struggle street these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know, I know. And and so that's I

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<v Speaker 1>can't make a better argument with Lincoln because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Cowboys. Never mind, don't want to get Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't do that. But it is frustrating that

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<v Speaker 1>that he's like he knows every player on every team

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<v Speaker 1>and every number, but there's no team loyalty. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is something I think it goes back to,

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<v Speaker 1>like in ol nil stuff because there look at those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys don't have loyalty either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we see it really across the landscape of sports.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you look at SEC football and the NIL

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<v Speaker 2>and this transfer portal, it's kind of crippled. What made

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC so beautiful. It's also what made my Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>team so beautiful. That it was just you had fifty

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<v Speaker 2>three alpha dogs that all just laid it down for

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<v Speaker 2>each other. There wasn't like we're not trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of here and go here, but no, no, no, how

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<v Speaker 2>do we sacrifice for each other? How do we put

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<v Speaker 2>the team first? How do we work hard? How do

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<v Speaker 2>we do our stinking jobs so that everyone gets glory?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why we won so much and that is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, you know, Auburn, you're trapped there for

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<v Speaker 2>three or four years, right because if you transfer then

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<v Speaker 2>when I was playing, you had to sit out a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody wanted to sit out from playing football for a year,

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<v Speaker 2>but Auburn, we just had a bunch of just tough

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<v Speaker 2>old dudes, right, and we were good my junior year.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Auburn's somewhat of a football program. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we're a basketball program. Bruce Pearl's turn around our.

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<v Speaker 1>Football team number one right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Install you know what I mean, I love it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I love all burn through and through. But

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<v Speaker 2>we'll leave that football discussion for another day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard, yeah, if we will, and hopefully you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back many times if you ask. But yeah, that the

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<v Speaker 1>college football climate has changed so much that you know, me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm such a huge fan of Texas A and M,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's very difficult to remain a good fan in

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<v Speaker 1>this climate.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you used to recruit a young man and you

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<v Speaker 2>would speak to his parents and you try to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what were the priorities of this young man. Did

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<v Speaker 2>he want to grow in manhood? Did he want to

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<v Speaker 2>grow in discipline and integrity and character? And the good

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<v Speaker 2>college coaches were really trying to pinpoint. Okay, hey, is

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<v Speaker 2>this dude a stud athlete? Great, because we need those,

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<v Speaker 2>but is this kid going to lay it on the line,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for me and the staff and the the

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<v Speaker 2>players around him? You know? And now, like you listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Nick Saban talking about how recruiting, how hard it got, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so surprised to see Belichick jumping this un spool,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the college ranks now having to recruit

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<v Speaker 2>on a kind of a one year term and try

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<v Speaker 2>to build a college program around it. So be interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to see. But the selflessness is the most beautiful thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, and it's really how soul was satisfied

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<v Speaker 2>being like Christ. And yet everything that's being sold now

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<v Speaker 2>is about selfishness. And these kids, you can't make them happy.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd ever find satisfaction if they get the first little

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<v Speaker 2>lick of adversity. Oh, I'm not starting as a freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out of here. We're raising a bunch of losers

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<v Speaker 2>and a bunch of quitters, and it's the opposite of

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<v Speaker 2>what college football used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear that Nick Saban bit about transactional verse transformational?

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<v Speaker 1>He did it on College Game Date several months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've probably heard something about you him and Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick's stories that they're all the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, totally. But really this is kind of when

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<v Speaker 1>he's spoken out a lot about why he's not in

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<v Speaker 1>coaching anymore. Oh I know, yeah, but he also talked

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<v Speaker 1>about his success happened when he realized the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>transactional coaching, which is input output I need this, I

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<v Speaker 1>need a win, and transformational, like, regardless of the outcome

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, we're making life transformations here together, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to leave the school, being a better

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<v Speaker 1>man than you started, and in the process of that,

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<v Speaker 1>they started winning games. And that's exactly what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Transformational coaching. It's out, it's only about transactions. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, how you win it, life and even how

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<v Speaker 2>we win in the Christian faith is about perseverance. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about selflessness, it's about working hard. It's about not seeking

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<v Speaker 2>your personal glory but a greater glory. And football is

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<v Speaker 2>not that difficult. It's just really really hard and painful,

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<v Speaker 2>and life is often that way, right, But the simplicity

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<v Speaker 2>of the truth that a Nick Saban teaches or that

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<v Speaker 2>a Bill Balichick taught us. You know, we think about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our kind of four commands when we came

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<v Speaker 2>in every single day, Let's do your job right. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that seems pretty easy. But then when you start breaking

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<v Speaker 2>that down into what that cost a person, that's really

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<v Speaker 2>really hard. And then you start talking about working hard. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>let's work hard, Well, what does working hard mean? It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to cost you everything during the course of the

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<v Speaker 2>season to truly work hard put the team first. Yeah, hoorah. Selflessness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really hard to be selfless, especially when selflessness

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<v Speaker 2>cost you playing time because that's what's better for the team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when Tom Brady went down in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight, my playing time kind of went out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, Tommy, we could do a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of everything. Well, Matt Castle comes in, who had never

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<v Speaker 2>played really in the league before, never even really played

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<v Speaker 2>at USC, and Bill's like, all right, hey, listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>putting you on all four special teams can't really use

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<v Speaker 2>a full back because I gotta spread everything out. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta let math cast. We'll kind of see the field.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got to be ready to play. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to give you any reps at practice. I trust you,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, but hey, you gotta be ready for this,

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<v Speaker 2>this and this. But you know your full back reps.

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<v Speaker 2>You're thirty forty full back reps. You might see the

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<v Speaker 2>field ten or twelve snaps of game now. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of the story for me in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight. Happy to do it one because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>raised by a marine dad who had taught me that

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<v Speaker 2>before I got to Bill. But everyone in New England

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<v Speaker 2>lived by that motto what's best for the team and

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<v Speaker 2>learning to put yourself aside into sacrifice for the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of others is really one of the great joys of

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<v Speaker 2>the Christian faith. But for those that would deny our Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still the only way to find somewhat of satisfaction

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<v Speaker 2>and pleasure in this life is building something around people

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<v Speaker 2>so that at least when you get to the mountaintop,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not all alone, because most people get there and

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<v Speaker 2>they're miserable. Well, we know the story, we need Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>but freedom those that would deny the faith better together.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sweet, you know, just building something for me, me, me.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the loneliest, most selfish, miserable people in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That's the story of the fullback. Really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the big number forty four fullback is not something someone

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<v Speaker 1>strives to be now. Yeah, it's like I gotta like

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<v Speaker 1>do the grunt work. I got to get the small yardage.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get to get the big play. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I want that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so many of the teams don't even have them anymore, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And the game is.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be the last generation of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>great fullbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What's funny is is most of the time we

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<v Speaker 2>get to this playoff season and like the final eight teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always said six of them are going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a fullback, you know, and we're really starting to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where that's just not the truth anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I can't keep up with this game. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the high school is kind of overtaken the college and

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<v Speaker 2>NFL ranks. It used to be the opposite, right, the

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<v Speaker 2>high school or coaches used to kind of look to

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, Hey, what are they doing? And you learn

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<v Speaker 2>this pedigree of football that made you smart and mentally

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<v Speaker 2>and physically and emotionally disaip. Now it's like, hey, where's

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<v Speaker 2>the best athlete. Let's throw them a quarterback and then

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<v Speaker 2>let's pay play this chaotic brand of football and just

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<v Speaker 2>run around and hope we win. That's really what it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, and that's what's happening in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's what's kind of we see in college,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's what we see in the NFL. Brady talks

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<v Speaker 2>about it all the time. The lack of mental and

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<v Speaker 2>emotional growth really cripples these guys by the time they

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<v Speaker 2>get to the pro game. I don't ever want to

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<v Speaker 2>be one of those old school guys. Oh it's tougher

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<v Speaker 2>when we did it right, we talk about rules and

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<v Speaker 2>all stuff. I'm not sure much of that really matters.

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<v Speaker 2>But we could trust Tommy at any point in time

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<v Speaker 2>because he was so mentally astute and so mentally prepared,

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<v Speaker 2>because he had worked hard and he had put the

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<v Speaker 2>team first and he did do his job that if

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<v Speaker 2>we were in a bad play that Josh McDaniels called

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<v Speaker 2>or Bill called, Tommy was going to get us in

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<v Speaker 2>a good call. And the way that team worked most

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<v Speaker 2>of the time, we'd all be walking up to that

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<v Speaker 2>line of scrimmage together saying, oh, this is a bad call,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd all be kind of thinking the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy would get us into that good play. Well, now

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<v Speaker 2>you've got players there that you know, they've just been

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<v Speaker 2>the best athletes. They've never been taught to shift protections.

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<v Speaker 2>They've never been taught to look at a defense and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, well they're in some nickel package. They

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<v Speaker 2>can't possibly defend what we have coming. So I know

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<v Speaker 2>my first read is going to be blocked because of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Second two and three are gonna be wide open. People

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<v Speaker 2>aren't taught the hard disciplines of the game, and it

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<v Speaker 2>starts with oh I didn't get my way and so

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<v Speaker 2>piece I'm out of here. I'm like, I don't listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not raising my three boys that way. I have

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<v Speaker 2>raised my three girls that way. And it's just, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's taking a lot of the sweetness

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<v Speaker 2>out of football in a lot of ways. For me.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine, man, because I see it and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not in the game. I saw Tyreek Hill talking about

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<v Speaker 1>something about, you know, they didn't make the playoffs, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking to something along the lines of, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think I'm out of here. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not me. I'm not a guy that doesn't make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>It was me, me, me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh man, it's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially for a team. Many people have been affected

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<v Speaker 2>by cancer, and so I don't ever want to be

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<v Speaker 2>that consideration. Say it, I get it, but cancer has

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<v Speaker 2>to be killed, right, and it has to be killed

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<v Speaker 2>radically or it's going to grow radically, right, And there's

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<v Speaker 2>really there's no neutral ground. It's the same way with

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<v Speaker 2>bad teammates. And Bill knew that in New England. We

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<v Speaker 2>knew that in New Orleans. And so no matter how

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<v Speaker 2>talented a player may be, that whining, that grumbling that

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<v Speaker 2>complaining it's a cancer, right, and it eventually it spreads,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you can take a good dude, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you surround him with too many cancers, that good dude's

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<v Speaker 2>going to become a cancer in your locker room. And

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<v Speaker 2>Bill was cutthroat. First round draft pick or seventh round

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<v Speaker 2>draft pick, if you weren't abiding by the law, you

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<v Speaker 2>were gone, no matter what it cost the team, because

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<v Speaker 2>Bill knew it might cost us fifty million now, but

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<v Speaker 2>if I let this fifty million dollar cancer stay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be one hundred million dollar cancer like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was cutthroat about Hey, we would call

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<v Speaker 2>it dealing with sent We're going to be radical with

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<v Speaker 2>it and move on. And there were so many things

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<v Speaker 2>as I kind of like for the Lord to save me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I look back on so much of Bill's teaching

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<v Speaker 2>in the way he built his teams. It's so biblical

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<v Speaker 2>in nature. He would never he would never say that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>His is more militaristic, given from his dad and just

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<v Speaker 2>his background, but it is it's built on selflessness, and

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<v Speaker 2>the law of the Lord was evident throughout the preaching

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<v Speaker 2>and the dynamics of that team. We were just doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for team glory and self glory and not the

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<v Speaker 2>glory of God.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not a Christian when you play football.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was. I mean, I was team chapelain.

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<v Speaker 2>I was leading chapels and I wasn't living hypocritically. Really right,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the chaplain. I was just in New England. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I got to New England, my buddy Don Davis,

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<v Speaker 2>faithful man of God Bill was he guarded the locker

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<v Speaker 2>room and he guarded the property and so just getting

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<v Speaker 2>a chaplain on site was hard, and so they had

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<v Speaker 2>always just kind of done it in house, so faithful

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<v Speaker 2>brother would just kind of step up and they would

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<v Speaker 2>lead it. So as Don kind of went about his way,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of filled the void, me and my buddy

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Watson. And then when I went to New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of brought that same type of concept of like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's we're a team. Let's build this in house. And so,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I had sin in my life, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course I knew that, but I was raised by godly parents.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was raised to believe that we choose Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the first you know, I was saved and

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<v Speaker 2>baptized at eight years old set a sinner's prayer, and

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<v Speaker 2>from eight to thirty eight I was convinced that I

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<v Speaker 2>was a boarding en believer. My life at that point

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<v Speaker 2>probably had one season that people would have been like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>he just walked away from the Lord and season of sin,

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<v Speaker 2>call it lukewarm, whatever. But there was no ever intentional

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<v Speaker 2>like hypocrisy in my life. My dad just raised me

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<v Speaker 2>to be disciplined and this is what godly looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is what repentance is. And so we would

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<v Speaker 2>confess and we would do those things, and I truly

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<v Speaker 2>believe my mom and dad do them from a regenerated heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I did it because it was just what I was

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<v Speaker 2>raised to do, and I knew that this was true.

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<v Speaker 2>At thirty eight, I just had a radical encounter with

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<v Speaker 2>the living God who saved my soul.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't leave it like that, you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave I've had such a blessed life, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>parents to pastors to the NFL. God's graciousness to me

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<v Speaker 2>is common, just grace to me. I mean, I had

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<v Speaker 2>it all. I had everything that a young man needed

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<v Speaker 2>to love God and walk faithfully and to fear him.

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<v Speaker 2>And in so many ways, Buddy from generosity, with the

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<v Speaker 2>financial blessings and the mouthpiece to boast about Christ. I

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<v Speaker 2>did all those things right, and I knew it right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew that this was the way to eternal life. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Lord through some really painful times at I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know where to start. Long story short, at

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight years old, myself, Marshall, Falk, Lawren Sab, Donovan McNabb,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole group of us, some of our executives were

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<v Speaker 2>accused by one woman of sexual harassment.

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<v Speaker 1>So you worked for the NFL network network.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you all listening, ten years in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>I was the chubby white boy that everyone said would

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<v Speaker 2>never play in the NFL. I was like, screw you,

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<v Speaker 2>watch this. I got this, you know, arrogant as can be,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course, praise God all the way. This is

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<v Speaker 2>his doing. YadA YadA, Yeah, of course, of course right.

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<v Speaker 2>I always said I wanted to play ten years and

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<v Speaker 2>then reevaluate and then go into TV. By God's common

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<v Speaker 2>grace to me, it's exactly what I did. I played

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<v Speaker 2>ten years, jumped off the train physically healthy, had offers

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<v Speaker 2>from ESPN and NFL networks. So I'm like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>you make a lot of money. Just run in your

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<v Speaker 2>mouth about this game, way better than taking a fullback beating.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do that for eight years at NFL Network

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<v Speaker 2>and was building a very strong brand for a form

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<v Speaker 2>of fullback. Fullbacks don't get these gigs. It's quarterbacks and superstars.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked with Dion Sanders and Kurt Warner and all

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<v Speaker 2>those guys. And I was divorced from my first wife

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<v Speaker 2>and it ended in twenty fifteen, but it had ended

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<v Speaker 2>years previously, just kind of that long, arduous years of

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<v Speaker 2>process of kind of finishing. But after my ex wife left,

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<v Speaker 2>it took about eight months before I just I looked

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<v Speaker 2>like the world, and I loved my sin, and I

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<v Speaker 2>practiced my sin, and I was really good at practicing

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<v Speaker 2>my sin. And because I didn't really truly know the

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<v Speaker 2>word of the Lord right, and because I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>keen theologically sound eyes bringing me the proper rebukes in scripture,

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought I was a Christian string a Christian

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<v Speaker 2>that is wandering. I was not being disciplined by the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty eighteen, this lady accused myself and those other

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<v Speaker 2>names I mentioned of sexual harassment, and I hit rock

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<v Speaker 2>bottom really, really quick. The way it went down was

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<v Speaker 2>I was innocent. The league knew it. I had given

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<v Speaker 2>them my phone, my email, they knew it all. They

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<v Speaker 2>paid me a lot, a lot of money for nine

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<v Speaker 2>months to keep my mouth shut. I'm like, hey, do

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<v Speaker 2>I need to hire a lawyer?

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<v Speaker 1>Like keep your mouth shut about? What?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? This was the thing, right, and so I'm the fullback,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the Bill Belichick guy. I'm the one loyalty team.

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<v Speaker 2>The NFL has sped my family and blessed me severely

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<v Speaker 2>for eighteen years at this point, and so Hr calls

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<v Speaker 2>me in and they're like, hey, so and so it

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<v Speaker 2>has accused you of sexual harassment. I'm like, what great. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I whip out my phone and I'm like, look at

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<v Speaker 2>all these texts from this lady tell me she loves me,

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<v Speaker 2>she misses Ava, Naomi, my daughters, asking me to train

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<v Speaker 2>her physically, all this stuff. And they're like, oh, would

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<v Speaker 2>you give us as I'm like, sure you have whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, do you have any other pictures of her shoulder?

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<v Speaker 2>All these pictures of us together or babysitting my children,

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff, right, and then gave them all access

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<v Speaker 2>to my email, Like, hey, how can I help you guys? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So they're like, basically, okay, we see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>We're so sorry this is happening. You know, please, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't ask you not to make any statements, but

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<v Speaker 2>but we'd ask you just let us what's good for

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<v Speaker 2>you is best for us, and what's best for us

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<v Speaker 2>is good for you. And I'm like, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>hire a lawyer, and like, well, we can't tell you

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<v Speaker 2>not to, but you know, our team is on it,

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<v Speaker 2>and we appreciate your cooperation and what. And so for

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<v Speaker 2>nine months they pay me almost a half a million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars just so I was never suspended without pay. They

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<v Speaker 2>knew clearly I had not sexually harassed anyone. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know about everyone else. I'm not going to speak about

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else. I know this woman dearly. She was a hurting, sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>kind lady in certain ways, and I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>she would do that to me. This side of eternity

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<v Speaker 2>and what God has taught me, I have no ill

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<v Speaker 2>will towards her. I have no ill will to the

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<v Speaker 2>people down up on network. But the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>they strung me along for nine months and then tried

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<v Speaker 2>to get me to sign some paperwork that I would

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<v Speaker 2>never sue them or sue her, and then try to

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<v Speaker 2>get me to just pay me to go away. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't saved at that time, but I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not taking my voice because I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>sign this paperwork because to the whole world, if I

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<v Speaker 2>signed this non disparagement agreement makes me look like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guilty of something I didn't do. Yeah, I was not

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<v Speaker 2>walking in sexual purity and I hadn't been pure with

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<v Speaker 2>that lady, but I had not done anything that was illegal,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had not done anything that was of the

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<v Speaker 2>sexual harassment nature even close to it. Sure, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just said, screw y'all, y'all fire me, do whatever you want. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they spent about a month trying to negotiate with my

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer to get me to sign something to take some

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<v Speaker 2>pay out. Hey, we'll pay out your contract if you

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<v Speaker 2>signed this, YadA, YadA YadA, and I just said, y'all

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<v Speaker 2>fire me whatever. So they ended up firing me for

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<v Speaker 2>a fitness picture that I had on their NFL network

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<v Speaker 2>phone that said if this ever got out, this would

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<v Speaker 2>embarrass the NFL. So they fired me for just cause

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<v Speaker 2>because I had some check in fitness pictures of myself

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<v Speaker 2>on my phone front and back that were I was

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<v Speaker 2>naked their fitness pick. There was nothing sexual of them whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, long story short, fast forward. I know enough.

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<v Speaker 2>At that point, I'm like, I've been through a divorce,

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<v Speaker 2>lost half of everything I had, I'm living in LA,

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<v Speaker 2>can't move, funds ran out real real quick. All these

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<v Speaker 2>different things kind of hit rock bottom. I'm reading in

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<v Speaker 2>First John. I get to the end of First John

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, holy moly, I'm not a Christian. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't love God, I don't love others.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>And well, in First John, there's this I tell our

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<v Speaker 2>built ready guys, it's like a test. Yeah, it lays

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<v Speaker 2>out love God, love others, and this obedience to your

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<v Speaker 2>supposed king will not be a burden. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a battle. We're gonna struggle with sin, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>constantly have to run to the rock of Christ to

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<v Speaker 2>ask for forgiveness. But it isn't going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>burden that weighs your old down to follow your king.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, man, I've just loved God for what

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<v Speaker 2>He's given me, and it was never Jesus that I

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<v Speaker 2>loved because I never truly saw my need for Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't see myself as the dude in the

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<v Speaker 2>ditch that the good Samaritan had to rescue his life.

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<v Speaker 2>I could do nothing for myself. I needed Jesus to

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<v Speaker 2>drag me out of the pit, mend me, put me

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<v Speaker 2>back together, pay for me to be made well, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I can go out being that good Samaritan by

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<v Speaker 2>God's grace. I never saw myself the one. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see myself as helpless. I didn't see myself as dead.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see myself as hater of God, enemy of God,

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<v Speaker 2>me running from God and Jesus and chasing down me

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<v Speaker 2>like he did Adam and Eve. And so eyes started

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<v Speaker 2>to be open to the true Gospel, not the American Gospel,

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<v Speaker 2>not the gospel I even really fully grew up around.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I got to like, man, yeah, I've looked

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<v Speaker 2>like a loved a lot of people, charity work, and

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<v Speaker 2>because I knew this is what you do. But the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time it was Heath Evans discipline. Just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pulled myself up on my bootstraps, getting to work, love God,

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<v Speaker 2>love people, right, Obey and so it was. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the full back mindset. I'm just gonna go do to

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<v Speaker 2>work and I'm gonna find a way to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I got to the kicker, I'm like, yeah,

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I've obeyed, but it's always been a burden. It's always

0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.719
<v Speaker 2>been a burden to obey him. And I started to

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 2>buy God's grace piece this thing together. It's like, oh

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.920
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, I'm not even saved, and.

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 1>You put this together yourself.

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean, heck no, it was all sir,

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I understand it, And no I wish because at this point,

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to a false church. Like it's been about

0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:56.479
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I can't remember all the exact dates, but it's

0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 2>probably been somewhere between four to six weeks post being fired, Right,

0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:03.240
<v Speaker 2>I've run back to the Lord because I know this

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 2>is my refuge in time of help, my ever present

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 2>help in time of need. Like I knew these things, right.

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 2>So I went back to reading my Bible every day,

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:12.439
<v Speaker 2>but this time the Lord opened my eyes to it

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 2>for real. And so as I'm like striking these things,

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, WHOA. And when I kind of came

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to this realization that I'd just never been saved. Thoughly,

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 2>spirit was like, yeah, but these last few weeks, have

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 2>you not loved me? Have you not loved loving others

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 2>in a pure way that is like Christ? And then

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.959
<v Speaker 2>in these last few weeks, has it been a burden

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 2>to serve me? And I was like, graciously, I'm like no,

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Like my heart for the first time had been drawn

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 2>to Christ. And then as I keep reading, I'm like,

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.439
<v Speaker 2>the Lord opens my eyes more to these doctrines of grace,

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 2>right and listen, I saw your beautiful library. Like people

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 2>have asked me since I was four, I don't read

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Sports Illustrated. I don't read anything but my Bible. It's

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of been my line my whole life. Yeah, well

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that was just where I was at at the time.

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 2>And so all that being said, the Lord brought me

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 2>through some really hard times. I was suing the NFL

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 2>for what they did to me. Felt like through scripture,

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 2>the Word was like, Hey, are you going to do

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 2>it your way? Are you going to trust me to

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 2>rebuild whatever it is that I want to rebuild. Are

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you going to be heaths still? Are you going to

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 2>be mine? And so in God's kindness, I just felt

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 2>like it was the right thing to do to drop

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the lawsuit, sent the NFL somewhat of an apology. Hey,

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry for wow smearing smearing y'all's names the last

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:39.360
<v Speaker 2>few weeks. I tried to word it very strategically where

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a fake apology, but I just tried to

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 2>be obedient to what I felt like the Holy Spirit

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.640
<v Speaker 2>was guiding me to do about. They were the authority

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 2>that God put over me at that time, and they

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>were an evil authority, but I still needed to submit

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:57.399
<v Speaker 2>to what God had rightly placed me under, and I

0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 2>wasn't doing that by suing them.

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Did anybody reply from the NFL to that.

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, one lady, and it was much appreciated.

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Would I mean, that's so weird, it's funny.

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:15.919
<v Speaker 2>The lady who replied would have been the one that

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I would have expected not to because she was one

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 2>that I had maybe the least relationship with. In those moments,

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I started to slightly see how my life had betrayed

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Christ in so many ways, and I started to see

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 2>what you and I would now call her depravity. But

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I started to see that I was just evil, and

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 2>I was wicked, and I just used people, and I

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 2>was so blind to the reality of like, how disgusting

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I am as a human and as a created being

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of God. And yet everything, all of life had been

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 2>about me. And yet I was so evil and so wicked.

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know it, and those around me didn't

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.479
<v Speaker 2>know it. You would have find people been, Yeah, he's

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>a little cocky, little arrogant, very confident what he's gonna

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>do and I'm not going to do, but very normal

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 2>for my field of influence and sports. Right, but the

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 2>people that knew me would be like me. He's gracious

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>and kind, and he's gonna bend over backwards to help people,

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and he's got a real heart for anyone who's ever

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.919
<v Speaker 2>been sexually abused, and all these ranks. So but the

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Lord through their betrayal of me, which was hurtful, Right,

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I had given eighteen years of my life to serve

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 2>these people, and then I felt like I had been

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 2>set up and trapped to kind of keep my mouth shut,

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 2>because from day one I wanted to scream from the rooftops. Hey,

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I've done a lot of simple things, but I've never

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 2>done this, and anyone that knows me. And the crazy

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 2>part was I had so many of the women in

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the NFL network that went to my defense, right, and

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>so they knew. Everyone in that building knew, right, he

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 2>ain't perfect, but this ain't Heath. And but as I

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>got past that, I and the Lord started to open

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 2>my eyes to his word. I just saw more and

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>more of how I betrayed Christ and yet he loved me,

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 2>and from eternity past he had a plan to save me,

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 2>and that his plan included me being massively betrayed with

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>international embarrassing news, my name being splattered everywhere because people

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>don't ever look at the content of a charge or

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 2>the context. Right, I don't care, Yeah, right, It's just

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 2>juicy gossip, right, And so that it's Marshall Faulk and

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Heath Devins and listen, I was the I was the

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 2>that was the nobody name of the group of all

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the people that were charged. Right. And then after nine months,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Marshall Faulk calls me and he said, hey, they're getting

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 2>ready to try to make us kind of take a

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>plea deal. They just drove all the way from LA

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>to San Diego to meet me and they're not bringing

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 2>us back. I'm like, what, so.

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>So you you skated over the rock bottom part yeah,

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was probably really bad.

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's you know, it's funny like when you play

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, right, everyone thinks everyone's millionaires.

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, when I played, you get a few guys on

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 2>the team that were making really really good money. And

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 2>these are the hard parts because like I was making

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 2>really good money compared to the normal people. Right. And

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 2>then you know, you go through a divorce living in

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>LA and so then you kind of the way I

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>structured that I thought was wise. I'm like, hey, I'm

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>going to keep all my retirement and we'll just kind

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 2>of give all this, you know to the ex wife,

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and is how we'll divide the line. And then I'm

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>working in the NFL network. So I had this great

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>job and so I'll kind of rebuild this wealth over

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>the next ten or fifteen years working for Fox in

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 2>the NFL network. Well, you know, two years after the divorce,

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 2>all that plan got shot to oblivion or.

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Where where's Jesus in the divorce? Where's your face? Yeah?

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, and so.

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I wildly relate to your story. That's you know, it's

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>part of my questioning is because I wildly relate to

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. In a lot of ways.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I married my first wife at twenty two. From

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>day one, it was a really hard marriage, and I

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>thought I loved her well. I didn't because I was

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>incapable of love. I thought I served her well. I

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't because I was incapable. I thought I dealt with

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 2>her heart wounds that were way before me. Well, I

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 2>wasn't capable.

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>We hid everything in house, and so we had a

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of secrecy that was just hers and ours or

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 2>hers and ours together, and we didn't seek wise counsel

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>because I thought I need to cover her and I

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>don't want to embarrass her. I don't want to embarrass us,

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>And so we were ill equipped to deal with those

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>things well, and so wounds just festered. It was just

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 2>really hard, and so for ten years, everyone would have

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>looked at us like, oh man, he's just loving his

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 2>wife really, really, really well through a tough marriage and

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>hard stuff. I wasn't because I was incapable of it.

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 2>But after about ten years, that bitterness and a knee

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 2>injury right in the middle of our Super Bowl year

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>with the Saints. After that knee injury, I got really

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>it bitter at God and didn't know it two thousand

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 2>and nine, we went our ring with the Norlan Saints.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm having the best year of my career, mid season

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>all Pro, and I blow my knee out in Miami again,

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of like I'd always done. No one would have

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 2>known I was better at God?

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, God, that you didn't know, and that's the only

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>reason you were bitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen, you just didn't know him.

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<v Speaker 2>And it took about another year and a half. But

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>that bitterness with God and then kind of probably ten

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>years of bitterness with my ex ended up me being

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>unfaithful in my marriage. And then because I knew this

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>is what repentance looks like, I then confessed all of

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 2>that and then we try to start working through it,

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>and then eventually it was just too much and she left.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, a couple of years later, those years between

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>confession and ex wife leaving, everyone would have said, man

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>to copy the glory of God's doing in his life.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's returned to the fold, he's following the Shepherd,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 2>all those things, right, And in a lot of ways

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I was right. There was nothing outwardly hypocritical, right. I

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't hiding any sins. Again, I wasn't. There was nothing

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>that I was turning to other than Jesus. It was

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 2>in my Bible every day, all those things.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>It's in some some theologians would say it's like when

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>an animal dies, sometimes it still kicks a little bit.

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah there's still life that mimics life, but yeah, the animals.

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Dead dead dead dead, right. And so after ex wife

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>left six seven months before, I was living like any

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>unregenerate single person with all the fame and all the

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 2>stuff that comes with being on TV every day in

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>LA And so my heart was I didn't know it

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 2>at the time, but what I loved was being revealed.

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>And it took a couple of years. And then because

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 2>before the beginning of time, God loved me, having nothing

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>to do with me, he disciplined me. It was hard,

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm so thankful and I'm thankful he still disciplines me.

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I lost everything except for my health

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and my two beautiful daughters. God was so gracious to

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>me in that. And you know, since July of twenty eighteen,

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>he's just been building the story that I asked him.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I started to ask him that Lord, I want you

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>to rebuild or build something that no man can take

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>credit for. I want you to have your way in

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 2>my life. We're not even the outside world can look

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 2>and say look what he's done. They have to say,

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>look what the righteous creator, God of the world has

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 2>done in Heath, and I believe that's what he's doing,

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, so.

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>The you know, I was radically saved out of cultural

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Christianity through John fourteen. The disciple asked Jesus, Lord, why

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>is it that you manifest yourself to us but not

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to the world. And as I'm listening to the sermons,

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, that's a good question. How was at

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>rock bottom searching for answers? Searching it for who was Jesus?

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't have any fruits of the spirit that

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to have as a Christian and in my

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>my rock bottomness, I didn't have It's like that, I

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't have that. So so yeah, Disciple, that's a good question,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 1>how will Jesus answer, because maybe that's maybe I need

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to know this. And Jesus says something just it blew

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 1>me away, changed everything for me, And it's the opposite

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of what I thought he was going to say. He says,

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>if anyone loves me, he'll keep my word, and my

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>father will love him, and we will come to him

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and make our home with him. And suddenly, and suddenly

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I knew in this reverse psychology that I was loved,

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.240
<v Speaker 1>not because of anything I did, but I was loved,

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and he was with me, and they had come to me,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and they had made a home in me. And yet

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>he says, you'll know the people that I've made a

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>home with. You'll know them because those are the people

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>keep my word. And I thought, so I'm loved, And

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>yet I don't keep his word. I don't even really

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>know all of his word. And so it hit me

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>from reverse. And that's that's where you're saying, the realization

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.280
<v Speaker 1>that you were loved because he said something really interesting earlier.

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>You said, I used to think that I choose Jesus. Yeah,

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>isn't that American? That's the American gospel. Yeah, choose Jesus.

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 2>One think about it. It's the opposite of the gospel. Yeah,

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 2>it's this people like we receive. I'm like, yes, I'm

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 2>a dummy, but even I can read and study what

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 2>these words mean. And this receiving of God's grace is passive.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like he's drawling. He's literally he is taking us

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and bringing us back to the fold or the sheep

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 2>running away. And the more that the Lord just opens

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:53.919
<v Speaker 2>my eyes to Christ, the more I just see, Oh,

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, he loves me because I'm a disastrous train wreck.

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 2>And yet oh, my gosh, she loves me in seeing

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.919
<v Speaker 2>the disastrous train wreck that I am in my own

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 2>power and my own my own being. It's what spurs

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 2>me on to be holy, like he's holy in that.

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 2>We talk about the American Gospel, right, and even the

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 2>way the Lord saved you, right, you'll obey. And so

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>we look at this believe word in John three sixteen

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>in America, we look at it like the demons. Yeah right, yeah,

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 2>but that believe means to love and to obey, And

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>it's very easy to see when the Lord gives you

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 2>eyes to read John right, that word believe close to

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 2>one hundred times or so. And don't check my math

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 2>because I'm full back. Too many concussions, right, yeah, but believe, believe, believe.

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Then we get to John twenty and he's like, this

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 2>is why I wrote this, So you believe that Jesus

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 2>is the Lord, the Messiah, right, and then upon believing

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 2>you have eternal life, right, that we would just love

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>him because he first loved us, you know.

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, John three thirty six, whoever believes in

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the sun has eternal life. Whoever does not obey. Yes,

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that word all of a sudden's interchanged, does not have life. Yeah,

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the wrath of God remains upon him, so he John

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>just casually other changes believe and obey. Yeah, as if

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 1>we would know that believing always equals obeying and obeying

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>always equals believe.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Amen. Amen. And then the start of John three, like,

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>we get so enamored with three sixteen, and rightfully so

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 2>we could, we could, we could. I literally think we're

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 2>going to be in the heaven leaves for for for

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 2>eternity after eternity, just wrapping our minds around that one verse.

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>But when you look at three five and six and

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 2>seven and eight, he literally tells us it's the wind

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 2>and he blows where he will. You had nothing to

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>do with your first birth. Why would you think you

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 2>have anything to do with your second birth? It is

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit that comes and gives you grace, gives

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.760
<v Speaker 2>you eyes to the ears that truly want to believe

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the Word of Christ, that sets us free and free indeed, right,

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and you mentioned thirtieth at six, right, you know, it's

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 2>like when the Lord does his great work and literally

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:16.959
<v Speaker 2>remove the scales from our eyes. It's like you can't help.

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 2>But see, I've had nothing to do with this, and

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I've had everything to do with why God should abandon me,

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 2>why he shouldn't be faithful? Yeah, right, And he tells

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 2>us he humbles us from the jump because he knows

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 2>in his kindness that it's humility is the only place

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 2>that we ever find freedom, when we can get past

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 2>ourselves and rest and trust in Him. That's where assurance

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 2>of faith comes from. As you and I know, I

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be judged on how I love my wife.

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be judged on how I faithfully

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 2>patiently discipline my children. I don't want to be judged

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 2>on how I love my brothers and sisters at Trinity

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 2>River Baptist Church. I don't want to be judged on

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 2>how I faithfully serve even our built ready community. No,

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I just I need the merits of Christ. Otherwise I

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>am damned and I know it. But praise be to God.

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>He looks at me and sees Jesus, and it was

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 2>his plan from eternity, and so it has nothing to

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 2>do with me. And that's the freedom I need to

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 2>love and obey and worship and being all It's good man.

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I heard a pastor say one time that Jesus. I

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>think maybe he said God. In this context, God is

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>waiting at the door, and he will not come in

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>because he's a gentleman, and he will come in unless

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you invite him in like a true gentleman. And I

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 1>thought that sounds like an insecure boyfriend.

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just.

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Needs acceptance or something. But that's not the way I

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>experienced it, and that's not the way any kind of

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>language the Bible uses.

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a man who doesn't understand the first

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 2>few chapters of Revelation. Those are church doors that the

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Jesus is knocking on and we I mean, I'm in

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the middle of Isaiah right now, and I'm just enamored

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 2>about how many times the Lord of Host, the sovereign,

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Lord of heavenly armies, full command of everything, and everyone says,

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I will, I will, I will you and me straying

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 2>and disobedience, I will. I'm gonna open your eyes. I'm

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 2>going to bring you home. I'm going to give you

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 2>a heart that once repents, once repentance and draws near

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 2>to me. Right to think about this, you know, it's

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.280
<v Speaker 2>like the Jesus comes he's thrown out of life booie,

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and all you got to do is grab it. I

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.280
<v Speaker 2>have so many men in my life that I love

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 2>so dearly that still to the day use that.

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and yet I'm like, tell the real analogy.

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Where do you see it in scripture?

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Tell the real analogy of that.

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 2>We're dead men, We're at the bottom of the ocean, right, Well,

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 2>we're just dead.

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 1>We can't grab it life.

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but for me, it's like I'm not in

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 2>the ocean. I'm I'm flooded in my sin. I loved

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.479
<v Speaker 2>my sexual immorality. I loved my arrogance. I loved only

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 2>thinking about me. I loved lying, and I was great

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 2>at it. I loved all these things. They were my idols,

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 2>and yet they were crushing me. And God said, that's

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>my boy. I'm gonna go rescue him, and here's how

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do it. And it's gonna look like utter

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>chaos and catastrophe, but you know what, he's gonna know

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 2>that I am God. And then I saved his soul,

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 2>and then I love him and it has nothing to

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 2>do with him, So that Heath Evans will never boast

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 2>in himself ever, ever, again.

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I just got saved again.

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Man, No, it's not true. He saved he saved us

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 2>before he made all this.

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Man, I didn't know it to that, to that full extent.

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know your story. In fact, we were talking

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>earlier before we recorded, and I was like, no, don't

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>tell me, because I want to. I want to hear

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it on the microphone. I already feel like anytime you

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.439
<v Speaker 1>come to this area, you could just keep coming back

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in because there are so many things I want to

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>ask and say that I think will be nuggets for

0:41:56.080 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>people to grab onto and so hopefully we could this

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.479
<v Speaker 1>will be a relationship. We continue to have it back

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and people are listening to comment below, bring back.

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.919
<v Speaker 2>Heath, you know, don't lie though.

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Let me slightly shift gears, and which is hard to

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>do because I feel like I have more questions about

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>what happened after you were saved. When I was in

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>high school playing football, I remember I remember the day

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that one of our codes, our defensive coordinator, came in

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:34.919
<v Speaker 1>and he introduced this thing called creating monohydrate, and he said,

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>we're all gonna start taking this and it was like

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>this in a jar, and it was like white and

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 1>like a sandy and see yeah, yeah, and we would

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>just take it. We would just put the scoop without

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, we wouldn't mix it and you just do

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 1>it on the tongue and then get a you know,

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>some water and throw it down. And my parents are like,

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>what are you guys doing that? All the parents were

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>scared this new thing, like this guy is there's no

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>long term testing on this. I gained ten pounds immediately,

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:11.720
<v Speaker 1>but it was a good ten pounds and it worked

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>in every sense. It worked fast. Forward to you know,

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>several decades. I'm on Instagram. I'm flipping through one time

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and here's Heith Evans, who who I use his advice

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 1>many times. On this podcast, Heath Evans is talking and

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 1>he goes, men you need creating and women you do too.

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, really, I haven't thought about that since

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the nineties. So I went right then to Visarah your

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.400
<v Speaker 1>supplement company. Pretty new company, right.

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a few months old?

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a few months old. And I'm like, if he thought, man,

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I trust this guy this not only is this? Does

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>this guy no fitness? And he was on the NFL network.

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you see him doing the forty five bench press

0:43:56.280 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>to twenty five. Okay, hang on before we do anything else.

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>This is we got to do this before. Yeah, man,

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys kind of look over my shoulder here. This

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>is crazy full box.

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to the bench press, who was the

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 2>top bulist Tommy Bohannan and the Fahu Tahi neither one.

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Of them still in the league. Thirty six reps. It

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>says on the screen, I'm thinking that he got this

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 1>might be able to set a new record running you

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 1>want to get after let's do it all right, he's

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 1>on live television, right live.

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 2>It was I wish I'd have gotten no warm up.

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I wish I'd got no warm up. I might have

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 2>gotten fifty.

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>He says, I talked too much trash.

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 2>To him last year.

0:44:41.440 --> 0:45:05.359
<v Speaker 4>In a suit man with a tie.

0:44:54.920 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Crushing it two three, twenty four, twenty five.

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Twenty six, not even slowing down, twenty nine, thirty thirty one,

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 1>thirty two, thirty three, thirty four, forty five, thirty six,

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine he won.

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Work no work.

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Forty five, that's unreal. Twenty five so that's like the

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 1>combine that that's what you use. Two twenty five, So

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>can you get forty six.

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I know you can't.

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I know you can't. You can't. No way like you

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>can't get forty six.

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.280
<v Speaker 2>The heck no, the the training that was going Listen,

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I was smack dab in the middle of wickedness and idolatry.

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 2>My God was my body and under saying I understand,

0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 2>and my most of my effort was going into how

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I looked, you know, from my botox face to my biceps.

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, So is that the first time you got

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>forty five?

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh no, uh yes, because you don't the training the

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:14.879
<v Speaker 2>result when you train for those different things, right, Yeah.

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I trained very different than those max efforts. So yeah,

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I just went out. I had like one warm upset

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 2>with one thirty five for a couple reps and then

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:25.879
<v Speaker 2>but normally, like on a test like that, I'd work

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 2>up to like four h five for like a double

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 2>just like so my central nervous system can like stress,

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and then two twenty five feels like it's five pounds. Yeah,

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 2>so your first twenty reps it's like your body's like, oh,

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:39.839
<v Speaker 2>it's just easy. Right, So those were fun days, good group.

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I worked with an NFL network.

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:43.359
<v Speaker 1>So my point is, I see this and I'm like,

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>if this guy's telling me I should take Creatam, then

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I should do it. And not only is he telling

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>me to do it, but he says he's got he's

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>got a company that's cleaner than any other. Yeah, and

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>so I went and buy it. I bought it, and

0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>then you quickly called me and said, why did you

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>just buy some thing from your own friend? Basically you

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 1>call me so anyway, then Amber got on it because

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>so this is just something I didn't really understand, and

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>this could be an entire episode. But you you now

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>have with your wife a supplement company. How you say it, Yeah,

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>we are. There's clean supplements, clean supplements. And then you

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 1>start talking you have way protein. You you start talking

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>about Australia cattle and all kinds of stuff.

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, we want to help the church get healthy.

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 2>The healthier we are, the more energy we have to

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 2>serve Christ And listen, we have little kids and it's

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 2>it's it's all gas, no breaks around, right, And so

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:44.680
<v Speaker 2>you know our company, by Sarah is a nutrition company

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 2>because we yes, we'd love to sell people supplements and

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 2>we can supplement a good healthy living, diet lifestyle. Right,

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 2>But any supplement in and of itself is not going

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 2>to rescue anyone. So we want to teach people how

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 2>to eat and how to think better about food. We've

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 2>been lied to, you know, you know, I don't know

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 2>RFK personally, but he's opening people's eyes to the lies

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and deception that our country has been under around nutrition,

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 2>and so we just want to help people. Creating is

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 2>the most tested supplement on the planet, right, and if

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 2>it's American made, it's going to be very good. Right.

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people buy cheaper stuff from China. I

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 2>would advise everyone not to. You don't have to buy

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 2>our as it by Sarah, but just make sure yours

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 2>is an American made company. Women, if you're here in

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 2>my voice, this is the best thing in the world

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 2>that we can do for our women. The number one

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 2>marker Launey. I know, right, because it's always been well,

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 2>this is the meathead supplement to get stronger, which it is.

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 2>But what is the number one marker for longevity? God

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.800
<v Speaker 2>is sovereign over all our days. Our days are written

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 2>in his book, right, But we have enough science and

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 2>true knowledge now to know that the stronger someone is,

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 2>the longer they live. We look at COVID in twenty

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty one twenty two. Who are the people that were

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:58.240
<v Speaker 2>least affected, the strongest people, not the people with the best,

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, body mass index, not the people that were

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the most cardiovascular sound. Those are important, but the number

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 2>one marker was how strong is someone physically right? Male

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and female? And they were basically unphased in a lot

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 2>of ways by COVID. And so creatine has so many

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 2>biomarkers just for women's mental health, helping them battle just

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 2>anxiousness and depression. We're seeing high dosage of creatine now

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>used in women's seventy plus that are alzheimer patients or

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>dementia patients, and they're actually reversing the effects, the memory

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 2>loss effects from this wicked disease. And so yes, it

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 2>will help you sustain and build muscle. Who wouldn't want

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 2>to do that, right? But then more importantly the cognitive effects.

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I've had multiple concussions. You know, I take twenty plus

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.480
<v Speaker 2>grams a day of creating because I'm just trying to

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 2>take care of my brain.

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 1>And what we know, what is that compared to what

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking. I'm taking the three capsules.

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:53.359
<v Speaker 2>For you, you're having one serving a day. I have four, right,

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:55.240
<v Speaker 2>but I'm also two hundred and seventy pounds.

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 1>You do twelve of those capsules.

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I use our powder because I'm always trying

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 2>to hydrate. I want to get more and more water

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>in my system with the right salts and the right

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 2>minerals and right vitamins, and so I kind of take

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.440
<v Speaker 2>our collection. But we're just we want to help people

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 2>to think right about what are the right supplements we need, right,

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and then how do we get healthy for the glory

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 2>of God? And so we do that with our built

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Ready coaching and we do that through VI Syarah, our

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 2>supplement company.

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Where did you learn all this stuff about? First of all, creatin?

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, creating kind of like me in high school.

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 2>It started, Hey, you want to put on some clean,

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 2>natural strength. There was all kinds of crazy stuff. When

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:31.799
<v Speaker 2>I got in high school. There was the stuff called

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Ultimate Orange. I don't know what was in it. It

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:37.359
<v Speaker 2>was like premium gas, right, like, your bitch is going

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to go up twenty pounds in like one shot of

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 2>this thing, right right. My dad's I was like, I'm

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 2>not sure what's in that. I don't know we'd be

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 2>taking that stuff, right, But creating you know, people knew, Hey,

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 2>this is what it is. It's already in good steak, right,

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 2>It's in some of our food. Our body needs it,

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 2>we have creatine, we need it for our brains, we

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 2>need it for all kinds of things, right, and so

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 2>it's always kind of been one of those more acceptable things.

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But just recently in the last few years, we've started

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 2>to see the scientific data about brain health and cognitive

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:11.800
<v Speaker 2>function as well as cognitive repair, the epidemic of mental health,

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 2>especially against our females. Right, Christy and I want so

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 2>badly to teach people the benefits of spirit filled self

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 2>control around eating and what we put in our bodies,

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 2>because for the glory of God, God loves to heal people. Right,

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 2>we have not because we ask not. There is no

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:39.400
<v Speaker 2>rhyme or reason to how Jesus chooses to bless some

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:42.359
<v Speaker 2>with healing and others and not. But what we know

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:45.879
<v Speaker 2>is that when godly men and women will just kind

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:49.719
<v Speaker 2>of follow Paul's outline about disciplining their bodies and not

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 2>just beating the air aimlessly, but having a rhythm and

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:56.960
<v Speaker 2>some thought out structure to how do we eat, how

0:51:56.960 --> 0:52:00.399
<v Speaker 2>do we sleep? How do we hydrate? This there's some

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:03.760
<v Speaker 2>value that we can get out of bodily training, bodily

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:07.320
<v Speaker 2>training about in righteousness and all these things. But but

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 2>also like, hey, if this is the temple, right, and

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't ever want this to be a message of

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 2>condemnation to anyone that's overweight or underweight, right, we just

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 2>want to love people. Well, right, I don't know what

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 2>it's like to be overweight. Kind of just always been

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:23.759
<v Speaker 2>in shape. I joked that I was a little fat,

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 2>chubby kid from Palm Beach, Florida. I kind of was.

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I was a little slow, and then that motivated me

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:30.479
<v Speaker 2>to get faster, and then God made an NFL career

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 2>out of it. Right, But my wife used to weigh

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:35.800
<v Speaker 2>almost three hundred pounds, and so she's felt the burden

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 2>of being unsaved. Yeah, chrissy, Yeah, your face is it

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:43.400
<v Speaker 2>all right? Right? And so does right? You know what

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean? And so and before the Lord saved her,

0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, she had built this massive business called weight

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.439
<v Speaker 2>loss hero, helping people for all the wrong reasons. God

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 2>does his great, miraculous work in her life. And she's like,

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I just can't coach women like this. I got to

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 2>coach him to get healthy for the glory of God.

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And now we just kind of do this stuff together.

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 2>But the freedom around discipline, right, it's a good thing.

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:06.399
<v Speaker 2>And God has commanded us to be of sober mind, right,

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:08.320
<v Speaker 2>And that's not just oh, let me be sober minded

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 2>in just these areas of righteousness, right, But look at

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 2>this practical wisdom God's given us. Right. And then, oh,

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 2>it's amazing, how much more rich my quiet time is

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:21.280
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, when I'm hydrated from the day before.

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.399
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing, how much more I remember right when I'm

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 2>eating more clean It's amazing. How much more energy I

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>have to love and serve my husband. It's amazing, how

0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 2>much more stamin I have as a father to get

0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:36.360
<v Speaker 2>out and wrestle around with the boys and throw them

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:38.400
<v Speaker 2>around in the pool, and work out and love my

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 2>wife and go to work for nine hours a day

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 2>with food and proper nutrition and hydration and proper rest.

0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Prioritizing the right thing based on the sound word of

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the Lord gives us so much freedom. And so we

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 2>want to help people with teaching them how to eat

0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 2>and with these supplements that we think are necessary for

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 2>everyone to be taking creating and collagen.

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 2>We want to help people burn the right fat. We

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 2>have a visceral fat is the fat around your organs

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 2>that kills you. There's very few clinical studies on supplementation

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 2>that will actually burn visceral fat. We have one of them.

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 2>It's called a night and it's awesome. It's great for

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 2>your brain. It's like a nice little nootropic punch to

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 2>your head in the morning when you want to study

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:24.319
<v Speaker 2>God's word on an empty stomach. It's just there's so

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 2>many good benefits to it. And then we want to

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.840
<v Speaker 2>help people get hydrated. Any good doctor is going to

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:32.360
<v Speaker 2>probably tell you about ninety percent of chronic disease is

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 2>caused by chronic dehydration. God meant our bodies to be

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:39.359
<v Speaker 2>fueled with vitamins and minerals and nutrients and protein that

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:42.920
<v Speaker 2>we just don't get. But if we do, it's amazing

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 2>how fast our bodies will heal themselves. When God said

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:49.400
<v Speaker 2>we are fearfully and wonderfully made, he didn't stutter. And

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 2>so we pollute this system and our food is either

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's poisoned to us or it's medicine to us.

0:54:57.960 --> 0:54:59.759
<v Speaker 2>We want to point people to, hey, this is how

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.240
<v Speaker 2>we this is how we kind of heal our body

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 2>by God's grace, strengthen ourselves for the war that is,

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.760
<v Speaker 2>walking in righteousness and walking in the love of Christ.

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>That is the best biblical argument for healthy living that

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard.

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 2>When it's time. That's why I bought from you, Praise

0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the Lord. And I tell our men all the time,

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 2>it is really really hard to make much of Christ

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:25.120
<v Speaker 2>and make much of the body it is, and so

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 2>so we have to we have to so look at

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Jesus to know why we're going to discipline this body. Right,

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Spurgeon's days were numbered. He lived in a day where

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't a lot of medicine. He got what fifty

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.919
<v Speaker 2>six fifty four years, and God miraculously used him. Now,

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 2>by God's grace, we live much longer. And I'm not

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 2>saying that we're ever going to live longer than what

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 2>God is determined. But I am saying that if we

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:53.719
<v Speaker 2>eat well, my days on this earth will be more

0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:56.319
<v Speaker 2>energized for the Kingdom of Christ than they would be

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:59.760
<v Speaker 2>if I'm not disciplining myself in that way? Is it selvific?

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want anyone to feel condemned that people are

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 2>just run into more and more weak sheep that are

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 2>just burdened by just these sins. It's like they struggle

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 2>with inshirts. And I don't ever want to go down

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that route. But I do think that even some of

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 2>our brothers and sisters in Christ that do wrestle with assurance,

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 2>if by God's grace, they could discipline themselves to eat better,

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:23.840
<v Speaker 2>they will think more clearly about the word of truth,

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and that word of truth will be revealed to them

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 2>in a new refreshing way where they can think more

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 2>clearly and their brain is not so foggy and their

0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.960
<v Speaker 2>body is not so beat down by constantly what they're

0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 2>shoving into it.

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>You talked about it's good for your gut to and

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 1>by the way, this is by no means is this

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 1>ay infomercial for vice Sarah. I didn't want it to

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 1>be that way. I don't want it to appear that way,

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 1>and that's not why you came. So I don't want

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 1>anyone to think that. So let me say this without

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:57.040
<v Speaker 1>sounding like an infomercial. I've had creatine that has really

0:56:57.080 --> 0:57:01.240
<v Speaker 1>messed up my stomach before. Yours doesn't. Your protein doesn't,

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:05.319
<v Speaker 1>and it tastes good. You're like sourcing cattle from all

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:09.759
<v Speaker 1>over the world. Are you really serious about it being

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 1>healthy for you?

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was taught by Bill Belichick there's always someone

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that's better, There's always someone that knows more. There's always

0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 2>someone that's gonna kick your butt, right, so you need

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>to prepare to meet that person. Right. So when building

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 2>by Sarah, we wanted the best, and by God's grace

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.360
<v Speaker 2>through the years in the NFL and just other relationships

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 2>he's given me. I know some of the best people

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 2>in the organic supplement space in the world. My buddy

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 2>who has basically sold two massive companies, you know, one

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Nestley now owns. So we won't go into a price

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 2>that's sold for, but he has done it as the

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 2>king in that space. And so I went directly to

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 2>him and said, how do we do this? Or it

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.439
<v Speaker 2>tastes good, but we can look people in the eye

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, our sourcing is better than anyone and

0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 2>you know our bovine glandulars right. So it's like this

0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 2>idea that like heels like. So, we have so many

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 2>thyroid issues, we have so many digestive track issues, we

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 2>have so many heart issues, we have so many issues

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:09.400
<v Speaker 2>that are health related because of food. And yet from

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of time God created these animals to be

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 2>under our dominion and for us to eat them, to

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:18.040
<v Speaker 2>be healthy and strong for His glory and to magnify

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 2>his name. And so if you look on the side

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 2>of all of our bottles, you're going to see these

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:24.360
<v Speaker 2>little glandulars. You're gonna see heart, you're gonna see kidney,

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you'll see thyroid. It's amazing when we eat God's food

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and we supplement God's food, how the body will just

0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:34.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of heal itself. And so we've given people the

0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:36.680
<v Speaker 2>purest A two protein. You talk about our creatine not

0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:39.600
<v Speaker 2>upsetting your stomach, Well, it's well sourced, right, And there's

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 2>not some crap from China. I'm not knocking to anybody

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 2>from China. But our system is set up to make

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:47.160
<v Speaker 2>money and give people as little amount as we can

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to kind of pass this bar or metric that makes

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:52.120
<v Speaker 2>it legal. Right. We haven't done that, right, And so

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:54.640
<v Speaker 2>our third party testing everything that we have kind of

0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 2>spent money on is to say, hey, listen, we want

0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 2>to represent God with integrity. These are supplements that will

0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:03.240
<v Speaker 2>help your body heal, but you got to eat good too, right,

0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:05.440
<v Speaker 2>And so even when you get on by Sarah nutrition

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 2>dot com, you can download the free pdf to just

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 2>help you think better about eating. But every all of

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:15.520
<v Speaker 2>our products have either digestive enzymes, something that's gonna prebiotic.

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, your probiotics that are gonna help people digest food.

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Because if I can feed you more protein, and then

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I can help heal your gut where it digests all

0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 2>that protein, where you're actually absorbing it. Not only does

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 2>grains or think better, but you sleep better, you perform better,

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 2>you feel stronger, there's more energy, everything about you improves.

0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 2>This is really brain number one. Brain number one, guide's

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:42.040
<v Speaker 2>brain number two. God has fiercefully and wonderly, wonderfully made us.

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:44.040
<v Speaker 2>So brain number two is always gonna be working.

0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Your head depends on your gut.

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so what we have to make fuels right, and

0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 2>so listen, I know it. I love donuts. I'm the

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:56.880
<v Speaker 2>donut king, right, but when I eat too many donuts,

0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:59.400
<v Speaker 2>this brain is bad. And I can't afford this brain

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 2>to be bad. I had too many kids and I

1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 2>got a big king Jesus to love and serve well.

1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:04.720
<v Speaker 2>So I needed to be sharp and accurate and on

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<v Speaker 2>point and so all these things have in effect, and

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<v Speaker 2>we just want to gently teach people that hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>can feel good and we can have all of God's

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<v Speaker 2>energy and everything that God's intended for us. And this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't no health, wealth and prosperity nonsense either, because I

1:00:18.880 --> 1:00:20.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know. God might have for you to get hit

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<v Speaker 2>by a train tomorrow. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>if God has gifted us with breath and we have

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to eat better food and to move our bodies,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to be doing so for the glory of God.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I think it's a great humble argument, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's practical. If I get up for an early flight

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to bed at midnight and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to be at the airport at four, and I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>it took a long time to finally realize, don't make

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<v Speaker 1>any decisions on this day. Don't make any moral decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>don't make any financial decisions, don't make any judgments on people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because you were You're drunk. Really, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go one more place with you because you mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 1>you're in Isaiah. Is that what you said? Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>if we put all maybe put everything together on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a good I know that you're a busy guide,

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<v Speaker 1>so that things change and you have to adjust wisely

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<v Speaker 1>in when it changes. But on a good, normal day,

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<v Speaker 1>what does your reading look like? When is it? How

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Mark Dever? So I'm gonna throw Mark Dever

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<v Speaker 2>under the busk, yeah, yeah a for clarity. Mark Dever

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<v Speaker 2>is the godliest, most faithful man I know, and other

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<v Speaker 2>than Christ and my wife and children, he has been

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<v Speaker 2>God's greatest gift to me, and he has so guided

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<v Speaker 2>in guarded me and all of my strengths and weaknesses,

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<v Speaker 2>mainly weaknesses.

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<v Speaker 1>He introduced us, by the way, that's right, sure you

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<v Speaker 1>introduced us.

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<v Speaker 2>So since the word saved me. Most mornings, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>up at four am. And if you walk into wherever

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reading most of the time, it's my wife's office.

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<v Speaker 2>All the lights are going to be off except for

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<v Speaker 2>one lamp and one like spotlight that we use for

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<v Speaker 2>filming content, and it's just fixed on my Bible. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the add king. I really struggle. I struggle to read

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<v Speaker 2>and comprehend. I dyslo I understand things backwards. I read

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<v Speaker 2>at a very high rate, but I understand very little,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it takes me a long time, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>often frustrating. But God has worked wonders and sanctifying me

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<v Speaker 2>through having to sacrifice a lot of hours of sleep

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<v Speaker 2>to draw near to Him. And not everyone needs to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. Most people, for what I would read in

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<v Speaker 2>a three hour time, they might be able to get

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<v Speaker 2>it in in forty five minutes, right, and they might

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<v Speaker 2>retain a lot more. I don't know, but that's been

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<v Speaker 2>my habit, that those first two and a half three

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<v Speaker 2>hours of every morning are just the Lord's and He

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<v Speaker 2>has poured his word into my heart. Sometimes I remember

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<v Speaker 2>it better than others, but he faithfully pours it out

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<v Speaker 2>of me when he gives me an opportunity to boast

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<v Speaker 2>in him. And I said, I was gonna throw Mark

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<v Speaker 2>under the bus because in the last few weeks have

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<v Speaker 2>gone through some just testing and different things. There's certain

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<v Speaker 2>things mentally or I don't know if they're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>slip or if we're just too busy, but we have

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<v Speaker 2>all these concussion testing for the NFL and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I told Mark about it, and he was just

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<v Speaker 2>put chrissy on the phone because he knows I won't listen.

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<v Speaker 2>So he said Chrissy. This is what he's going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever amount of time Heath reads his Bible, he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to do half of it. Right, He's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>cut his prayer time down. But whatever time he's reading

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<v Speaker 2>his Bible, you're gonna make him cut it in half.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're gonna make him sleep. You know that much

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<v Speaker 2>more well, Mark nos So I've been the last I

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<v Speaker 2>think three weeks now, I've been sleeping until five. I

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<v Speaker 2>get up and I go in there and I just

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<v Speaker 2>I hit my knees. I always start. I need help

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<v Speaker 2>positioning my mind in humility, and so I pick up

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<v Speaker 2>this book called Valley of Vision. I'm sure you've heard

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's always in somewhere. It's always in the next

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<v Speaker 1>room over for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And most days it stirs my heart with affections for

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<v Speaker 2>Christ because I see my sin more clearly. And then

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<v Speaker 2>that'll lead me into praying for Chrissy. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>list that I pray for every day, and then praying

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<v Speaker 2>for the children, praying for myself. These last few weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not been praying as faithfully for our church,

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<v Speaker 2>but through our church membership. Because Mark Dever took an

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<v Speaker 2>hour away from my holy sanctification. But yeah, those morning

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<v Speaker 2>hours have been sweet, you know, since twenty eighteen. And

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<v Speaker 2>you just all the godly dead dudes that we love,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't even have half of them, didn't have electricity

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<v Speaker 2>to run, lights to read, but they were still up

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<v Speaker 2>in the wee hours of morning under candle light, reading

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<v Speaker 2>and meditating on God's word. God was faithful to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and he helped them finish strong, and their lives just

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<v Speaker 2>oozed Jesus Christ and I believe it was because of

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<v Speaker 2>their prayer time and their Bible study time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never talked to you about that, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>heard you say that before, but I already was positive

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<v Speaker 1>that that would be your answer. And you're right. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>George Mueller, for a long time he would he would

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<v Speaker 1>get up and pray and read, and he realized his

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<v Speaker 1>prayer life was dead until he switched the two that

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible the Scripture softened his cold dead heart and

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<v Speaker 1>every morning and supercharged it so that then his prayer

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<v Speaker 1>life came alive. Are you brushing your teeth before you

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<v Speaker 1>do this? You got coffee? What's what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>I take our nite and our creatine collagen, caffeine so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm putting good, good stuff in my system. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been a coffee guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Just before you open the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So when that alarm goes off, I wear these

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<v Speaker 2>stupid retainers to keep my teeth draight, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So then I got to go there, put

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<v Speaker 2>them in this little water, this little fizzy fizzy thing whatever, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I go straight in. Man, this's is embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't brush my teeth first, but I ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>lot to y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I get our our Knight, our creatine collagen,

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<v Speaker 2>and our electrolytes, and so I hydrate immediately. The ignite,

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<v Speaker 2>which is our kind of visceral fat burner, just really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gives me a nice clean caffeine stem from

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<v Speaker 2>my mind. It really helps me focus in. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I lock in. Yeah, and then I lock in. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I lock in for a few hours and worship the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a men's conference one time in Montana

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<v Speaker 1>and I did a poll on that question. You're in

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<v Speaker 1>the majority. People typically would brush their teeth after their

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<v Speaker 1>quiet time for some reason. I'm in the minority of

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up brush my teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then that's why your teeth are prayer? What's what?

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<v Speaker 2>I sleep with this mouth tit and I don't ever

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<v Speaker 2>really have morning breath, so like I brush my teeth

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<v Speaker 2>too hard. Chrissy's on me all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so I know she'll tell you she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have morning breath either. It's like, listen, God's been so kind.

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<v Speaker 1>That is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. We don't cuddle much because I'm too heavy to

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<v Speaker 2>make her hot. You know. It's it's about about four

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<v Speaker 2>minutes each night, hand on her half time. I I

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<v Speaker 2>like fall asleep praying for like she tells the funniest

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<v Speaker 2>stories because I get I'm so exhausted at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the night. So I'm like I just put my

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<v Speaker 2>hand on her chest, you know, and she laughs because

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<v Speaker 2>I'll fall asleep like a narcoleptic, and then I'll wake

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<v Speaker 2>up like literally two minutes later, sometimes like right where

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<v Speaker 2>I right where I was left off in the prayers.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I don't know how you do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I as amber and I as our marriage gets older,

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<v Speaker 1>she gets imperture wise. Hey, it looks wise too. She

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<v Speaker 1>gets hotter and I get I get colder. Like She's

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I turned this act. I get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get these blankets off, and I'm like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of chili dude, like we're going opposite directions. But but yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to cope on.

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<v Speaker 2>Amber, sleep with awaited blanket like Chrissy.

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<v Speaker 1>Does I do. Actually, she doesn't because she can't. She

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<v Speaker 1>can't take that. She she can't take the heat.

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<v Speaker 2>Christy Lilac so hot. Oh my, you's got a fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>pound blanket on your chest. I'm like, what are you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a different episode. But dude, that that that routine is.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this people, I've thought about this before. When

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<v Speaker 1>you seek first the Kingdom of Heaven, it means way

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<v Speaker 1>more than that, But it doesn't mean any less than

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<v Speaker 1>actually physically starting the day with Him first, the first fruits,

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<v Speaker 1>the first fruits, Bonhoffer. You to say, don't talk until

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<v Speaker 1>you've going through your quiet time, don't listen or talk

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone until God speaks. Let God have the first word. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys took this seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you when you hear about a moral failure,

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<v Speaker 1>a big public moral failure, almost always at the root

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you find they lost their daily devotional Their

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<v Speaker 1>morning devotional time was gone. Yeah, it's gone away.

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<v Speaker 2>And the pastor's burden of studying to feed and studying

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<v Speaker 2>to be fed, you know, and how often those blur

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<v Speaker 2>and I find those borring for me just to minister

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<v Speaker 2>to our men and our women. But it's such a

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous temptation, right that somehow I think I don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to be fed, that I only need to gather to feed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a that's a dangerous road, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what an honor. But you're here. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>passing through. I hope to have you back.

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<v Speaker 2>And you name it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're You're a brother and a mentor. And I promise

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing a lot better on my seven hours

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep. Thank you always. Thanks for joining me on

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<v Speaker 2>Yigi