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Speaker 2: Well, you know, so our four adopted little's right, I

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Speaker 2: because I didn't see myself as the dude in the

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Speaker 2: ditch that the good Samaritan had to rescue his life.

429
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Speaker 2: I could do nothing for myself. I needed Jesus to

430
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Speaker 2: drag me out of the pit, mend me, put me

431
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Speaker 2: back together, pay for me to be made well, and

432
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Speaker 2: then I can go out being that good Samaritan by

433
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Speaker 2: God's grace. I never saw myself the one. I didn't

434
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Speaker 2: see myself as helpless. I didn't see myself as dead.

435
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Speaker 2: I didn't see myself as hater of God, enemy of God,

436
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Speaker 2: me running from God and Jesus and chasing down me

437
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 2: like he did Adam and Eve. And so eyes started

438
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Speaker 2: to be open to the true Gospel, not the American Gospel,

439
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 2: not the gospel I even really fully grew up around.

440
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Speaker 2: But then I got to like, man, yeah, I've looked

441
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Speaker 2: like a loved a lot of people, charity work, and

442
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 2: because I knew this is what you do. But the

443
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: whole time it was Heath Evans discipline. Just kind of

444
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: pulled myself up on my bootstraps, getting to work, love God,

445
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: love people, right, Obey and so it was. It was

446
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Speaker 2: the full back mindset. I'm just gonna go do to

447
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: work and I'm gonna find a way to get it done.

448
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Speaker 2: But when I got to the kicker, I'm like, yeah,

449
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Speaker 2: I've obeyed, but it's always been a burden. It's always

450
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 2: been a burden to obey him. And I started to

451
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Speaker 2: buy God's grace piece this thing together. It's like, oh

452
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Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm not even saved, and.

453
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Speaker 1: You put this together yourself.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, heck no, it was all sir,

455
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Speaker 2: I understand it, And no I wish because at this point,

456
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Speaker 2: I'm going to a false church. Like it's been about

457
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Speaker 2: Maybe I can't remember all the exact dates, but it's

458
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Speaker 2: probably been somewhere between four to six weeks post being fired, Right,

459
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Speaker 2: I've run back to the Lord because I know this

460
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Speaker 2: is my refuge in time of help, my ever present

461
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: help in time of need. Like I knew these things, right.

462
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Speaker 2: So I went back to reading my Bible every day,

463
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Speaker 2: but this time the Lord opened my eyes to it

464
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Speaker 2: for real. And so as I'm like striking these things,

465
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, WHOA. And when I kind of came

466
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Speaker 2: to this realization that I'd just never been saved. Thoughly,

467
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: spirit was like, yeah, but these last few weeks, have

468
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Speaker 2: you not loved me? Have you not loved loving others

469
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Speaker 2: in a pure way that is like Christ? And then

470
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Speaker 2: in these last few weeks, has it been a burden

471
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Speaker 2: to serve me? And I was like, graciously, I'm like no,

472
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Speaker 2: Like my heart for the first time had been drawn

473
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Speaker 2: to Christ. And then as I keep reading, I'm like,

474
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Speaker 2: the Lord opens my eyes more to these doctrines of grace,

475
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Speaker 2: right and listen, I saw your beautiful library. Like people

476
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: have asked me since I was four, I don't read

477
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Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated. I don't read anything but my Bible. It's

478
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: kind of been my line my whole life. Yeah, well

479
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: that was just where I was at at the time.

480
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Speaker 2: And so all that being said, the Lord brought me

481
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Speaker 2: through some really hard times. I was suing the NFL

482
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Speaker 2: for what they did to me. Felt like through scripture,

483
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: the Word was like, Hey, are you going to do

484
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: it your way? Are you going to trust me to

485
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Speaker 2: rebuild whatever it is that I want to rebuild. Are

486
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Speaker 2: you going to be heaths still? Are you going to

487
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Speaker 2: be mine? And so in God's kindness, I just felt

488
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Speaker 2: like it was the right thing to do to drop

489
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Speaker 2: the lawsuit, sent the NFL somewhat of an apology. Hey,

490
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for wow smearing smearing y'all's names the last

491
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Speaker 2: few weeks. I tried to word it very strategically where

492
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Speaker 2: it wasn't a fake apology, but I just tried to

493
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Speaker 2: be obedient to what I felt like the Holy Spirit

494
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: was guiding me to do about. They were the authority

495
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Speaker 2: that God put over me at that time, and they

496
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: were an evil authority, but I still needed to submit

497
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: to what God had rightly placed me under, and I

498
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 2: wasn't doing that by suing them.

499
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Speaker 1: Did anybody reply from the NFL to that.

500
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Speaker 2: Yes, one lady, and it was much appreciated.

501
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Speaker 1: Would I mean, that's so weird, it's funny.

502
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Speaker 2: The lady who replied would have been the one that

503
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Speaker 2: I would have expected not to because she was one

504
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: that I had maybe the least relationship with. In those moments,

505
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: I started to slightly see how my life had betrayed

506
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: Christ in so many ways, and I started to see

507
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: what you and I would now call her depravity. But

508
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: I started to see that I was just evil, and

509
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: I was wicked, and I just used people, and I

510
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: was so blind to the reality of like, how disgusting

511
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: I am as a human and as a created being

512
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Speaker 2: of God. And yet everything, all of life had been

513
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: about me. And yet I was so evil and so wicked.

514
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: I didn't even know it, and those around me didn't

515
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: know it. You would have find people been, Yeah, he's

516
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: a little cocky, little arrogant, very confident what he's gonna

517
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: do and I'm not going to do, but very normal

518
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: for my field of influence and sports. Right, but the

519
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: people that knew me would be like me. He's gracious

520
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: and kind, and he's gonna bend over backwards to help people,

521
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: and he's got a real heart for anyone who's ever

522
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: been sexually abused, and all these ranks. So but the

523
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: Lord through their betrayal of me, which was hurtful, Right,

524
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Speaker 2: I had given eighteen years of my life to serve

525
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: these people, and then I felt like I had been

526
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Speaker 2: set up and trapped to kind of keep my mouth shut,

527
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: because from day one I wanted to scream from the rooftops. Hey,

528
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of simple things, but I've never

529
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Speaker 2: done this, and anyone that knows me. And the crazy

530
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: part was I had so many of the women in

531
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Speaker 2: the NFL network that went to my defense, right, and

532
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: so they knew. Everyone in that building knew, right, he

533
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: ain't perfect, but this ain't Heath. And but as I

534
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 2: got past that, I and the Lord started to open

535
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: my eyes to his word. I just saw more and

536
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: more of how I betrayed Christ and yet he loved me,

537
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: and from eternity past he had a plan to save me,

538
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: and that his plan included me being massively betrayed with

539
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: international embarrassing news, my name being splattered everywhere because people

540
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: don't ever look at the content of a charge or

541
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: the context. Right, I don't care, Yeah, right, It's just

542
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: juicy gossip, right, And so that it's Marshall Faulk and

543
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: Heath Devins and listen, I was the I was the

544
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: that was the nobody name of the group of all

545
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: the people that were charged. Right. And then after nine months,

546
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: Marshall Faulk calls me and he said, hey, they're getting

547
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: ready to try to make us kind of take a

548
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: plea deal. They just drove all the way from LA

549
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: to San Diego to meet me and they're not bringing

550
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: us back. I'm like, what, so.

551
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: So you you skated over the rock bottom part yeah,

552
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: but it was probably really bad.

553
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's you know, it's funny like when you play

554
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL, right, everyone thinks everyone's millionaires.

555
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: Right.

556
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: Well, when I played, you get a few guys on

557
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: the team that were making really really good money. And

558
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: these are the hard parts because like I was making

559
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: really good money compared to the normal people. Right. And

560
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: then you know, you go through a divorce living in

561
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: LA and so then you kind of the way I

562
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: structured that I thought was wise. I'm like, hey, I'm

563
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: going to keep all my retirement and we'll just kind

564
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: of give all this, you know to the ex wife,

565
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: and is how we'll divide the line. And then I'm

566
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: working in the NFL network. So I had this great

567
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: job and so I'll kind of rebuild this wealth over

568
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: the next ten or fifteen years working for Fox in

569
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: the NFL network. Well, you know, two years after the divorce,

570
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: all that plan got shot to oblivion or.

571
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Speaker 1: Where where's Jesus in the divorce? Where's your face? Yeah?

572
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: Well, and so.

573
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Speaker 1: I wildly relate to your story. That's you know, it's

574
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Speaker 1: part of my questioning is because I wildly relate to

575
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. In a lot of ways.

576
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I married my first wife at twenty two. From

577
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: day one, it was a really hard marriage, and I

578
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: thought I loved her well. I didn't because I was

579
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: incapable of love. I thought I served her well. I

580
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: didn't because I was incapable. I thought I dealt with

581
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: her heart wounds that were way before me. Well, I

582
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: wasn't capable.

583
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Speaker 1: You know.

584
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: We hid everything in house, and so we had a

585
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: lot of secrecy that was just hers and ours or

586
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: hers and ours together, and we didn't seek wise counsel

587
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: because I thought I need to cover her and I

588
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: don't want to embarrass her. I don't want to embarrass us,

589
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: And so we were ill equipped to deal with those

590
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: things well, and so wounds just festered. It was just

591
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: really hard, and so for ten years, everyone would have

592
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: looked at us like, oh man, he's just loving his

593
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: wife really, really, really well through a tough marriage and

594
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: hard stuff. I wasn't because I was incapable of it.

595
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: But after about ten years, that bitterness and a knee

596
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Speaker 2: injury right in the middle of our Super Bowl year

597
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: with the Saints. After that knee injury, I got really

598
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: it bitter at God and didn't know it two thousand

599
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Speaker 2: and nine, we went our ring with the Norlan Saints.

600
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Speaker 2: I'm having the best year of my career, mid season

601
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Speaker 2: all Pro, and I blow my knee out in Miami again,

602
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Speaker 2: kind of like I'd always done. No one would have

603
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: known I was better at God?

604
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Speaker 1: Right, God, that you didn't know, and that's the only

605
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Speaker 1: reason you were bitter.

606
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Speaker 2: Amen, you just didn't know him.

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Speaker 2: And it took about another year and a half. But

627
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: that bitterness with God and then kind of probably ten

628
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: years of bitterness with my ex ended up me being

629
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: unfaithful in my marriage. And then because I knew this

630
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: is what repentance looks like, I then confessed all of

631
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: that and then we try to start working through it,

632
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: and then eventually it was just too much and she left.

633
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Speaker 2: You know, a couple of years later, those years between

634
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: confession and ex wife leaving, everyone would have said, man

635
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: to copy the glory of God's doing in his life.

636
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: You know, he's returned to the fold, he's following the Shepherd,

637
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: all those things, right, And in a lot of ways

638
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: I was right. There was nothing outwardly hypocritical, right. I

639
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: wasn't hiding any sins. Again, I wasn't. There was nothing

640
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: that I was turning to other than Jesus. It was

641
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: in my Bible every day, all those things.

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Speaker 1: It's in some some theologians would say it's like when

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Speaker 1: an animal dies, sometimes it still kicks a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah there's still life that mimics life, but yeah, the animals.

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Speaker 2: Dead dead dead dead, right. And so after ex wife

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Speaker 2: left six seven months before, I was living like any

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Speaker 2: unregenerate single person with all the fame and all the

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Speaker 2: stuff that comes with being on TV every day in

649
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Speaker 2: LA And so my heart was I didn't know it

650
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Speaker 2: at the time, but what I loved was being revealed.

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Speaker 2: And it took a couple of years. And then because

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Speaker 2: before the beginning of time, God loved me, having nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with me, he disciplined me. It was hard,

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Speaker 2: but I'm so thankful and I'm thankful he still disciplines me.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I lost everything except for my health

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Speaker 2: and my two beautiful daughters. God was so gracious to

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Speaker 2: me in that. And you know, since July of twenty eighteen,

658
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Speaker 2: he's just been building the story that I asked him.

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Speaker 2: I started to ask him that Lord, I want you

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Speaker 2: to rebuild or build something that no man can take

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Speaker 2: credit for. I want you to have your way in

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Speaker 2: my life. We're not even the outside world can look

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Speaker 2: and say look what he's done. They have to say,

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Speaker 2: look what the righteous creator, God of the world has

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Speaker 2: done in Heath, and I believe that's what he's doing,

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Speaker 2: you know, so.

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Speaker 1: The you know, I was radically saved out of cultural

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Speaker 1: Christianity through John fourteen. The disciple asked Jesus, Lord, why

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Speaker 1: is it that you manifest yourself to us but not

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Speaker 1: to the world. And as I'm listening to the sermons,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, that's a good question. How was at

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Speaker 1: rock bottom searching for answers? Searching it for who was Jesus?

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Speaker 1: Because I didn't have any fruits of the spirit that

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to have as a Christian and in my

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Speaker 1: my rock bottomness, I didn't have It's like that, I

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Speaker 1: didn't have that. So so yeah, Disciple, that's a good question,

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Speaker 1: how will Jesus answer, because maybe that's maybe I need

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Speaker 1: to know this. And Jesus says something just it blew

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Speaker 1: me away, changed everything for me, And it's the opposite

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Speaker 1: of what I thought he was going to say. He says,

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Speaker 1: if anyone loves me, he'll keep my word, and my

682
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Speaker 1: father will love him, and we will come to him

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Speaker 1: and make our home with him. And suddenly, and suddenly

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Speaker 1: I knew in this reverse psychology that I was loved,

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Speaker 1: not because of anything I did, but I was loved,

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Speaker 1: and he was with me, and they had come to me,

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Speaker 1: and they had made a home in me. And yet

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Speaker 1: he says, you'll know the people that I've made a

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Speaker 1: home with. You'll know them because those are the people

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Speaker 1: keep my word. And I thought, so I'm loved, And

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Speaker 1: yet I don't keep his word. I don't even really

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Speaker 1: know all of his word. And so it hit me

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Speaker 1: from reverse. And that's that's where you're saying, the realization

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Speaker 1: that you were loved because he said something really interesting earlier.

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Speaker 1: You said, I used to think that I choose Jesus. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: isn't that American? That's the American gospel. Yeah, choose Jesus.

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Speaker 2: One think about it. It's the opposite of the gospel. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's this people like we receive. I'm like, yes, I'm

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Speaker 2: a dummy, but even I can read and study what

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Speaker 2: these words mean. And this receiving of God's grace is passive.

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Speaker 2: It's like he's drawling. He's literally he is taking us

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Speaker 2: and bringing us back to the fold or the sheep

703
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Speaker 2: running away. And the more that the Lord just opens

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Speaker 2: my eyes to Christ, the more I just see, Oh,

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Speaker 2: my gosh, he loves me because I'm a disastrous train wreck.

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Speaker 2: And yet oh, my gosh, she loves me in seeing

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Speaker 2: the disastrous train wreck that I am in my own

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Speaker 2: power and my own my own being. It's what spurs

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Speaker 2: me on to be holy, like he's holy in that.

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Speaker 2: We talk about the American Gospel, right, and even the

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Speaker 2: way the Lord saved you, right, you'll obey. And so

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Speaker 2: we look at this believe word in John three sixteen

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Speaker 2: in America, we look at it like the demons. Yeah right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but that believe means to love and to obey, And

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Speaker 2: it's very easy to see when the Lord gives you

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Speaker 2: eyes to read John right, that word believe close to

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Speaker 2: one hundred times or so. And don't check my math

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Speaker 2: because I'm full back. Too many concussions, right, yeah, but believe, believe, believe.

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Speaker 2: Then we get to John twenty and he's like, this

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Speaker 2: is why I wrote this, So you believe that Jesus

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Speaker 2: is the Lord, the Messiah, right, and then upon believing

722
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Speaker 2: you have eternal life, right, that we would just love

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Speaker 2: him because he first loved us, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, John three thirty six, whoever believes in

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Speaker 1: the sun has eternal life. Whoever does not obey. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that word all of a sudden's interchanged, does not have life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the wrath of God remains upon him, so he John

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Speaker 1: just casually other changes believe and obey. Yeah, as if

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Speaker 1: we would know that believing always equals obeying and obeying

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Speaker 1: always equals believe.

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Speaker 2: Amen. Amen. And then the start of John three, like,

732
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Speaker 2: we get so enamored with three sixteen, and rightfully so

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Speaker 2: we could, we could, we could. I literally think we're

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Speaker 2: going to be in the heaven leaves for for for

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Speaker 2: eternity after eternity, just wrapping our minds around that one verse.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at three five and six and

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Speaker 2: seven and eight, he literally tells us it's the wind

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Speaker 2: and he blows where he will. You had nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with your first birth. Why would you think you

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Speaker 2: have anything to do with your second birth? It is

741
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Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit that comes and gives you grace, gives

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Speaker 2: you eyes to the ears that truly want to believe

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Speaker 2: the Word of Christ, that sets us free and free indeed, right,

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Speaker 2: and you mentioned thirtieth at six, right, you know, it's

745
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Speaker 2: like when the Lord does his great work and literally

746
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Speaker 2: remove the scales from our eyes. It's like you can't help.

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Speaker 2: But see, I've had nothing to do with this, and

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Speaker 2: I've had everything to do with why God should abandon me,

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Speaker 2: why he shouldn't be faithful? Yeah, right, And he tells

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Speaker 2: us he humbles us from the jump because he knows

751
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Speaker 2: in his kindness that it's humility is the only place

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Speaker 2: that we ever find freedom, when we can get past

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Speaker 2: ourselves and rest and trust in Him. That's where assurance

754
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Speaker 2: of faith comes from. As you and I know, I

755
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: don't want to be judged on how I love my wife.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be judged on how I faithfully

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Speaker 2: patiently discipline my children. I don't want to be judged

758
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Speaker 2: on how I love my brothers and sisters at Trinity

759
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Speaker 2: River Baptist Church. I don't want to be judged on

760
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: how I faithfully serve even our built ready community. No,

761
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: I just I need the merits of Christ. Otherwise I

762
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Speaker 2: am damned and I know it. But praise be to God.

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Speaker 2: He looks at me and sees Jesus, and it was

764
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Speaker 2: his plan from eternity, and so it has nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with me. And that's the freedom I need to

766
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Speaker 2: love and obey and worship and being all It's good man.

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Speaker 1: I heard a pastor say one time that Jesus. I

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Speaker 1: think maybe he said God. In this context, God is

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Speaker 1: waiting at the door, and he will not come in

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Speaker 1: because he's a gentleman, and he will come in unless

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Speaker 1: you invite him in like a true gentleman. And I

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Speaker 1: thought that sounds like an insecure boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just.

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Speaker 1: Needs acceptance or something. But that's not the way I

775
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: experienced it, and that's not the way any kind of

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Speaker 1: language the Bible uses.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a man who doesn't understand the first

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Speaker 2: few chapters of Revelation. Those are church doors that the

779
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: Jesus is knocking on and we I mean, I'm in

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Speaker 2: the middle of Isaiah right now, and I'm just enamored

781
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Speaker 2: about how many times the Lord of Host, the sovereign,

782
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Speaker 2: Lord of heavenly armies, full command of everything, and everyone says,

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Speaker 2: I will, I will, I will you and me straying

784
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: and disobedience, I will. I'm gonna open your eyes. I'm

785
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Speaker 2: going to bring you home. I'm going to give you

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Speaker 2: a heart that once repents, once repentance and draws near

787
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Speaker 2: to me. Right to think about this, you know, it's

788
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: like the Jesus comes he's thrown out of life booie,

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Speaker 2: and all you got to do is grab it. I

790
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Speaker 2: have so many men in my life that I love

791
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Speaker 2: so dearly that still to the day use that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yet I'm like, tell the real analogy.

793
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Speaker 2: Where do you see it in scripture?

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00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: Tell the real analogy of that.

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Speaker 2: We're dead men, We're at the bottom of the ocean, right, Well,

796
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Speaker 2: we're just dead.

797
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Speaker 1: We can't grab it life.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but for me, it's like I'm not in

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Speaker 2: the ocean. I'm I'm flooded in my sin. I loved

800
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Speaker 2: my sexual immorality. I loved my arrogance. I loved only

801
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: thinking about me. I loved lying, and I was great

802
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: at it. I loved all these things. They were my idols,

803
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: and yet they were crushing me. And God said, that's

804
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: my boy. I'm gonna go rescue him, and here's how

805
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. And it's gonna look like utter

806
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: chaos and catastrophe, but you know what, he's gonna know

807
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: that I am God. And then I saved his soul,

808
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: and then I love him and it has nothing to

809
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Speaker 2: do with him, So that Heath Evans will never boast

810
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Speaker 2: in himself ever, ever, again.

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Speaker 1: I think I just got saved again.

812
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Speaker 2: Man, No, it's not true. He saved he saved us

813
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: before he made all this.

814
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: Man, I didn't know it to that, to that full extent.

815
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Speaker 1: I didn't know your story. In fact, we were talking

816
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: earlier before we recorded, and I was like, no, don't

817
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: tell me, because I want to. I want to hear

818
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: it on the microphone. I already feel like anytime you

819
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: come to this area, you could just keep coming back

820
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: in because there are so many things I want to

821
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: ask and say that I think will be nuggets for

822
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: people to grab onto and so hopefully we could this

823
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 1: will be a relationship. We continue to have it back

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Speaker 1: and people are listening to comment below, bring back.

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Speaker 2: Heath, you know, don't lie though.

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Speaker 1: Let me slightly shift gears, and which is hard to

827
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Speaker 1: do because I feel like I have more questions about

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Speaker 1: what happened after you were saved. When I was in

829
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Speaker 1: high school playing football, I remember I remember the day

830
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Speaker 1: that one of our codes, our defensive coordinator, came in

831
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Speaker 1: and he introduced this thing called creating monohydrate, and he said,

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Speaker 1: we're all gonna start taking this and it was like

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Speaker 1: this in a jar, and it was like white and

834
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Speaker 1: like a sandy and see yeah, yeah, and we would

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Speaker 1: just take it. We would just put the scoop without

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Speaker 1: you know, we wouldn't mix it and you just do

837
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Speaker 1: it on the tongue and then get a you know,

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Speaker 1: some water and throw it down. And my parents are like,

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Speaker 1: what are you guys doing that? All the parents were

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Speaker 1: scared this new thing, like this guy is there's no

841
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: long term testing on this. I gained ten pounds immediately,

842
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: but it was a good ten pounds and it worked

843
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: in every sense. It worked fast. Forward to you know,

844
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Speaker 1: several decades. I'm on Instagram. I'm flipping through one time

845
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Speaker 1: and here's Heith Evans, who who I use his advice

846
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Speaker 1: many times. On this podcast, Heath Evans is talking and

847
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: he goes, men you need creating and women you do too.

848
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, really, I haven't thought about that since

849
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: the nineties. So I went right then to Visarah your

850
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Speaker 1: supplement company. Pretty new company, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a few months old?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a few months old. And I'm like, if he thought, man,

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00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: I trust this guy this not only is this? Does

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00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: this guy no fitness? And he was on the NFL network.

855
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: Did you see him doing the forty five bench press

856
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: to twenty five. Okay, hang on before we do anything else.

857
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: This is we got to do this before. Yeah, man,

858
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: you guys kind of look over my shoulder here. This

859
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: is crazy full box.

860
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: When it comes to the bench press, who was the

861
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: top bulist Tommy Bohannan and the Fahu Tahi neither one.

862
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: Of them still in the league. Thirty six reps. It

863
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: says on the screen, I'm thinking that he got this

864
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: might be able to set a new record running you

865
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: want to get after let's do it all right, he's

866
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: on live television, right live.

867
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: It was I wish I'd have gotten no warm up.

868
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: I wish I'd got no warm up. I might have

869
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: gotten fifty.

870
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: He says, I talked too much trash.

871
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: To him last year.

872
00:44:41,440 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 4: In a suit man with a tie.

873
00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: Crushing it two three, twenty four, twenty five.

874
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: Twenty six, not even slowing down, twenty nine, thirty thirty one,

875
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty three, thirty four, forty five, thirty six,

876
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine he won.

877
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: Work no work.

878
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: Forty five, that's unreal. Twenty five so that's like the

879
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: combine that that's what you use. Two twenty five, So

880
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: can you get forty six.

881
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: I know you can't.

882
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: I know you can't. You can't. No way like you

883
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: can't get forty six.

884
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: The heck no, the the training that was going Listen,

885
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: I was smack dab in the middle of wickedness and idolatry.

886
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: My God was my body and under saying I understand,

887
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: and my most of my effort was going into how

888
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: I looked, you know, from my botox face to my biceps.

889
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: You know, So is that the first time you got

890
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: forty five?

891
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: Uh no, uh yes, because you don't the training the

892
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: result when you train for those different things, right, Yeah.

893
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: I trained very different than those max efforts. So yeah,

894
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: I just went out. I had like one warm upset

895
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: with one thirty five for a couple reps and then

896
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: but normally, like on a test like that, I'd work

897
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: up to like four h five for like a double

898
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: just like so my central nervous system can like stress,

899
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: and then two twenty five feels like it's five pounds. Yeah,

900
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: so your first twenty reps it's like your body's like, oh,

901
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: it's just easy. Right, So those were fun days, good group.

902
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: I worked with an NFL network.

903
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: So my point is, I see this and I'm like,

904
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: if this guy's telling me I should take Creatam, then

905
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: I should do it. And not only is he telling

906
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: me to do it, but he says he's got he's

907
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: got a company that's cleaner than any other. Yeah, and

908
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: so I went and buy it. I bought it, and

909
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: then you quickly called me and said, why did you

910
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: just buy some thing from your own friend? Basically you

911
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: call me so anyway, then Amber got on it because

912
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: so this is just something I didn't really understand, and

913
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: this could be an entire episode. But you you now

914
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: have with your wife a supplement company. How you say it, Yeah,

915
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: we are. There's clean supplements, clean supplements. And then you

916
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: start talking you have way protein. You you start talking

917
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: about Australia cattle and all kinds of stuff.

918
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, we want to help the church get healthy.

919
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: The healthier we are, the more energy we have to

920
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: serve Christ And listen, we have little kids and it's

921
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: it's it's all gas, no breaks around, right, And so

922
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: you know our company, by Sarah is a nutrition company

923
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: because we yes, we'd love to sell people supplements and

924
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: we can supplement a good healthy living, diet lifestyle. Right,

925
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: But any supplement in and of itself is not going

926
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: to rescue anyone. So we want to teach people how

927
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: to eat and how to think better about food. We've

928
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: been lied to, you know, you know, I don't know

929
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: RFK personally, but he's opening people's eyes to the lies

930
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: and deception that our country has been under around nutrition,

931
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: and so we just want to help people. Creating is

932
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: the most tested supplement on the planet, right, and if

933
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: it's American made, it's going to be very good. Right.

934
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: A lot of people buy cheaper stuff from China. I

935
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: would advise everyone not to. You don't have to buy

936
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: our as it by Sarah, but just make sure yours

937
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: is an American made company. Women, if you're here in

938
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: my voice, this is the best thing in the world

939
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: that we can do for our women. The number one

940
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: marker Launey. I know, right, because it's always been well,

941
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: this is the meathead supplement to get stronger, which it is.

942
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: But what is the number one marker for longevity? God

943
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 2: is sovereign over all our days. Our days are written

944
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: in his book, right, But we have enough science and

945
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: true knowledge now to know that the stronger someone is,

946
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: the longer they live. We look at COVID in twenty

947
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: twenty one twenty two. Who are the people that were

948
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 2: least affected, the strongest people, not the people with the best,

949
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: you know, body mass index, not the people that were

950
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: the most cardiovascular sound. Those are important, but the number

951
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: one marker was how strong is someone physically right? Male

952
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: and female? And they were basically unphased in a lot

953
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: of ways by COVID. And so creatine has so many

954
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: biomarkers just for women's mental health, helping them battle just

955
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: anxiousness and depression. We're seeing high dosage of creatine now

956
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: used in women's seventy plus that are alzheimer patients or

957
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: dementia patients, and they're actually reversing the effects, the memory

958
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: loss effects from this wicked disease. And so yes, it

959
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 2: will help you sustain and build muscle. Who wouldn't want

960
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: to do that, right? But then more importantly the cognitive effects.

961
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: I've had multiple concussions. You know, I take twenty plus

962
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: grams a day of creating because I'm just trying to

963
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: take care of my brain.

964
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: And what we know, what is that compared to what

965
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm taking. I'm taking the three capsules.

966
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 2: For you, you're having one serving a day. I have four, right,

967
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: but I'm also two hundred and seventy pounds.

968
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: You do twelve of those capsules.

969
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I use our powder because I'm always trying

970
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: to hydrate. I want to get more and more water

971
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: in my system with the right salts and the right

972
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: minerals and right vitamins, and so I kind of take

973
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: our collection. But we're just we want to help people

974
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: to think right about what are the right supplements we need, right,

975
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: and then how do we get healthy for the glory

976
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: of God? And so we do that with our built

977
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: Ready coaching and we do that through VI Syarah, our

978
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: supplement company.

979
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: Where did you learn all this stuff about? First of all, creatin?

980
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, creating kind of like me in high school.

981
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: It started, Hey, you want to put on some clean,

982
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: natural strength. There was all kinds of crazy stuff. When

983
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: I got in high school. There was the stuff called

984
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: Ultimate Orange. I don't know what was in it. It

985
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: was like premium gas, right, like, your bitch is going

986
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: to go up twenty pounds in like one shot of

987
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: this thing, right right. My dad's I was like, I'm

988
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: not sure what's in that. I don't know we'd be

989
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: taking that stuff, right, But creating you know, people knew, Hey,

990
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: this is what it is. It's already in good steak, right,

991
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: It's in some of our food. Our body needs it,

992
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: we have creatine, we need it for our brains, we

993
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: need it for all kinds of things, right, and so

994
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: it's always kind of been one of those more acceptable things.

995
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: But just recently in the last few years, we've started

996
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: to see the scientific data about brain health and cognitive

997
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: function as well as cognitive repair, the epidemic of mental health,

998
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: especially against our females. Right, Christy and I want so

999
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: badly to teach people the benefits of spirit filled self

1000
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: control around eating and what we put in our bodies,

1001
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: because for the glory of God, God loves to heal people. Right,

1002
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: we have not because we ask not. There is no

1003
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 2: rhyme or reason to how Jesus chooses to bless some

1004
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: with healing and others and not. But what we know

1005
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 2: is that when godly men and women will just kind

1006
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: of follow Paul's outline about disciplining their bodies and not

1007
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: just beating the air aimlessly, but having a rhythm and

1008
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: some thought out structure to how do we eat, how

1009
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 2: do we sleep? How do we hydrate? This there's some

1010
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 2: value that we can get out of bodily training, bodily

1011
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: training about in righteousness and all these things. But but

1012
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: also like, hey, if this is the temple, right, and

1013
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: I don't ever want this to be a message of

1014
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: condemnation to anyone that's overweight or underweight, right, we just

1015
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: want to love people. Well, right, I don't know what

1016
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: it's like to be overweight. Kind of just always been

1017
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: in shape. I joked that I was a little fat,

1018
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: chubby kid from Palm Beach, Florida. I kind of was.

1019
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: I was a little slow, and then that motivated me

1020
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,479
Speaker 2: to get faster, and then God made an NFL career

1021
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: out of it. Right, But my wife used to weigh

1022
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: almost three hundred pounds, and so she's felt the burden

1023
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: of being unsaved. Yeah, chrissy, Yeah, your face is it

1024
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: all right? Right? And so does right? You know what

1025
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: I mean? And so and before the Lord saved her,

1026
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: you know, she had built this massive business called weight

1027
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 2: loss hero, helping people for all the wrong reasons. God

1028
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: does his great, miraculous work in her life. And she's like,

1029
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: I just can't coach women like this. I got to

1030
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: coach him to get healthy for the glory of God.

1031
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: And now we just kind of do this stuff together.

1032
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: But the freedom around discipline, right, it's a good thing.

1033
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: And God has commanded us to be of sober mind, right,

1034
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: And that's not just oh, let me be sober minded

1035
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: in just these areas of righteousness, right, But look at

1036
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: this practical wisdom God's given us. Right. And then, oh,

1037
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: it's amazing, how much more rich my quiet time is

1038
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 2: in the morning, when I'm hydrated from the day before.

1039
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 2: It's amazing, how much more I remember right when I'm

1040
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: eating more clean It's amazing. How much more energy I

1041
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: have to love and serve my husband. It's amazing, how

1042
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: much more stamin I have as a father to get

1043
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: out and wrestle around with the boys and throw them

1044
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: around in the pool, and work out and love my

1045
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: wife and go to work for nine hours a day

1046
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: with food and proper nutrition and hydration and proper rest.

1047
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: Prioritizing the right thing based on the sound word of

1048
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: the Lord gives us so much freedom. And so we

1049
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: want to help people with teaching them how to eat

1050
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: and with these supplements that we think are necessary for

1051
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: everyone to be taking creating and collagen.

1052
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: Right.

1053
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: We want to help people burn the right fat. We

1054
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: have a visceral fat is the fat around your organs

1055
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: that kills you. There's very few clinical studies on supplementation

1056
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: that will actually burn visceral fat. We have one of them.

1057
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: It's called a night and it's awesome. It's great for

1058
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: your brain. It's like a nice little nootropic punch to

1059
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: your head in the morning when you want to study

1060
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: God's word on an empty stomach. It's just there's so

1061
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: many good benefits to it. And then we want to

1062
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: help people get hydrated. Any good doctor is going to

1063
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: probably tell you about ninety percent of chronic disease is

1064
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: caused by chronic dehydration. God meant our bodies to be

1065
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: fueled with vitamins and minerals and nutrients and protein that

1066
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: we just don't get. But if we do, it's amazing

1067
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: how fast our bodies will heal themselves. When God said

1068
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: we are fearfully and wonderfully made, he didn't stutter. And

1069
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: so we pollute this system and our food is either

1070
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: you know, it's poisoned to us or it's medicine to us.

1071
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: We want to point people to, hey, this is how

1072
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 2: we this is how we kind of heal our body

1073
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: by God's grace, strengthen ourselves for the war that is,

1074
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: walking in righteousness and walking in the love of Christ.

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Speaker 1: That is the best biblical argument for healthy living that

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00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: I've ever heard.

1077
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: When it's time. That's why I bought from you, Praise

1078
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: the Lord. And I tell our men all the time,

1079
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: it is really really hard to make much of Christ

1080
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: and make much of the body it is, and so

1081
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: so we have to we have to so look at

1082
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: Jesus to know why we're going to discipline this body. Right,

1083
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: Spurgeon's days were numbered. He lived in a day where

1084
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of medicine. He got what fifty

1085
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 2: six fifty four years, and God miraculously used him. Now,

1086
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: by God's grace, we live much longer. And I'm not

1087
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: saying that we're ever going to live longer than what

1088
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: God is determined. But I am saying that if we

1089
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: eat well, my days on this earth will be more

1090
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: energized for the Kingdom of Christ than they would be

1091
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 2: if I'm not disciplining myself in that way? Is it selvific?

1092
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to feel condemned that people are

1093
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: just run into more and more weak sheep that are

1094
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: just burdened by just these sins. It's like they struggle

1095
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: with inshirts. And I don't ever want to go down

1096
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: that route. But I do think that even some of

1097
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: our brothers and sisters in Christ that do wrestle with assurance,

1098
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: if by God's grace, they could discipline themselves to eat better,

1099
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: they will think more clearly about the word of truth,

1100
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: and that word of truth will be revealed to them

1101
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: in a new refreshing way where they can think more

1102
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: clearly and their brain is not so foggy and their

1103
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: body is not so beat down by constantly what they're

1104
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: shoving into it.

1105
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: You talked about it's good for your gut to and

1106
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: by the way, this is by no means is this

1107
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: ay infomercial for vice Sarah. I didn't want it to

1108
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: be that way. I don't want it to appear that way,

1109
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: and that's not why you came. So I don't want

1110
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: anyone to think that. So let me say this without

1111
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: sounding like an infomercial. I've had creatine that has really

1112
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: messed up my stomach before. Yours doesn't. Your protein doesn't,

1113
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: and it tastes good. You're like sourcing cattle from all

1114
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: over the world. Are you really serious about it being

1115
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: healthy for you?

1116
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was taught by Bill Belichick there's always someone

1117
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: that's better, There's always someone that knows more. There's always

1118
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: someone that's gonna kick your butt, right, so you need

1119
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: to prepare to meet that person. Right. So when building

1120
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: by Sarah, we wanted the best, and by God's grace

1121
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: through the years in the NFL and just other relationships

1122
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: he's given me. I know some of the best people

1123
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: in the organic supplement space in the world. My buddy

1124
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: who has basically sold two massive companies, you know, one

1125
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 2: Nestley now owns. So we won't go into a price

1126
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: that's sold for, but he has done it as the

1127
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: king in that space. And so I went directly to

1128
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: him and said, how do we do this? Or it

1129
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 2: tastes good, but we can look people in the eye

1130
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: and say, hey, our sourcing is better than anyone and

1131
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: you know our bovine glandulars right. So it's like this

1132
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: idea that like heels like. So, we have so many

1133
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: thyroid issues, we have so many digestive track issues, we

1134
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: have so many heart issues, we have so many issues

1135
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: that are health related because of food. And yet from

1136
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: the beginning of time God created these animals to be

1137
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: under our dominion and for us to eat them, to

1138
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: be healthy and strong for His glory and to magnify

1139
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: his name. And so if you look on the side

1140
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: of all of our bottles, you're going to see these

1141
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: little glandulars. You're gonna see heart, you're gonna see kidney,

1142
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: you'll see thyroid. It's amazing when we eat God's food

1143
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: and we supplement God's food, how the body will just

1144
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: kind of heal itself. And so we've given people the

1145
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: purest A two protein. You talk about our creatine not

1146
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: upsetting your stomach, Well, it's well sourced, right, And there's

1147
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: not some crap from China. I'm not knocking to anybody

1148
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: from China. But our system is set up to make

1149
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: money and give people as little amount as we can

1150
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: to kind of pass this bar or metric that makes

1151
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: it legal. Right. We haven't done that, right, And so

1152
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: our third party testing everything that we have kind of

1153
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: spent money on is to say, hey, listen, we want

1154
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: to represent God with integrity. These are supplements that will

1155
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: help your body heal, but you got to eat good too, right,

1156
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 2: And so even when you get on by Sarah nutrition

1157
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: dot com, you can download the free pdf to just

1158
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: help you think better about eating. But every all of

1159
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: our products have either digestive enzymes, something that's gonna prebiotic.

1160
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: Excuse me, your probiotics that are gonna help people digest food.

1161
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: Because if I can feed you more protein, and then

1162
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: I can help heal your gut where it digests all

1163
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: that protein, where you're actually absorbing it. Not only does

1164
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: grains or think better, but you sleep better, you perform better,

1165
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: you feel stronger, there's more energy, everything about you improves.

1166
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: This is really brain number one. Brain number one, guide's

1167
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: brain number two. God has fiercefully and wonderly, wonderfully made us.

1168
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: So brain number two is always gonna be working.

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Speaker 1: Your head depends on your gut.

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00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what we have to make fuels right, and

1171
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 2: so listen, I know it. I love donuts. I'm the

1172
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: donut king, right, but when I eat too many donuts,

1173
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: this brain is bad. And I can't afford this brain

1174
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: to be bad. I had too many kids and I

1175
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: got a big king Jesus to love and serve well.

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01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: So I needed to be sharp and accurate and on

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01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: point and so all these things have in effect, and

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01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: we just want to gently teach people that hey, we

1179
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: can feel good and we can have all of God's

1180
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: energy and everything that God's intended for us. And this

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01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: isn't no health, wealth and prosperity nonsense either, because I

1182
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: don't know. God might have for you to get hit

1183
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: by a train tomorrow. But at the end of the day,

1184
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: if God has gifted us with breath and we have

1185
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: the ability to eat better food and to move our bodies,

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01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: we need to be doing so for the glory of God.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think it's a great humble argument, and

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01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: it's practical. If I get up for an early flight

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01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: and I went to bed at midnight and I have

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01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: to be at the airport at four, and I've learned

1191
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: it took a long time to finally realize, don't make

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01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: any decisions on this day. Don't make any moral decisions,

1193
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: don't make any financial decisions, don't make any judgments on people.

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01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: That's because you were You're drunk. Really, I want to

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01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: go one more place with you because you mentioned earlier

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Speaker 1: you're in Isaiah. Is that what you said? Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: if we put all maybe put everything together on a

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Speaker 1: on a good I know that you're a busy guide,

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01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: so that things change and you have to adjust wisely

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01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 1: in when it changes. But on a good, normal day,

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: what does your reading look like? When is it? How

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01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: are you?

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Speaker 2: You know? Mark Dever? So I'm gonna throw Mark Dever

1204
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: under the busk, yeah, yeah a for clarity. Mark Dever

1205
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: is the godliest, most faithful man I know, and other

1206
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: than Christ and my wife and children, he has been

1207
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: God's greatest gift to me, and he has so guided

1208
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: in guarded me and all of my strengths and weaknesses,

1209
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: mainly weaknesses.

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Speaker 1: He introduced us, by the way, that's right, sure you

1211
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: introduced us.

1212
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Speaker 2: So since the word saved me. Most mornings, I've been

1213
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: up at four am. And if you walk into wherever

1214
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm reading most of the time, it's my wife's office.

1215
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: All the lights are going to be off except for

1216
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: one lamp and one like spotlight that we use for

1217
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: filming content, and it's just fixed on my Bible. I'm

1218
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 2: the add king. I really struggle. I struggle to read

1219
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: and comprehend. I dyslo I understand things backwards. I read

1220
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: at a very high rate, but I understand very little,

1221
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: and so it takes me a long time, and it's

1222
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: often frustrating. But God has worked wonders and sanctifying me

1223
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: through having to sacrifice a lot of hours of sleep

1224
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: to draw near to Him. And not everyone needs to

1225
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: do that. Most people, for what I would read in

1226
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: a three hour time, they might be able to get

1227
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: it in in forty five minutes, right, and they might

1228
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: retain a lot more. I don't know, but that's been

1229
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: my habit, that those first two and a half three

1230
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: hours of every morning are just the Lord's and He

1231
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: has poured his word into my heart. Sometimes I remember

1232
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: it better than others, but he faithfully pours it out

1233
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 2: of me when he gives me an opportunity to boast

1234
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: in him. And I said, I was gonna throw Mark

1235
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: under the bus because in the last few weeks have

1236
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: gone through some just testing and different things. There's certain

1237
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: things mentally or I don't know if they're starting to

1238
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: slip or if we're just too busy, but we have

1239
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: all these concussion testing for the NFL and all this stuff.

1240
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: So I told Mark about it, and he was just

1241
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: put chrissy on the phone because he knows I won't listen.

1242
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: So he said Chrissy. This is what he's going to do.

1243
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: Whatever amount of time Heath reads his Bible, he's going

1244
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: to do half of it. Right, He's not going to

1245
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: cut his prayer time down. But whatever time he's reading

1246
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: his Bible, you're gonna make him cut it in half.

1247
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: And you're gonna make him sleep. You know that much

1248
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: more well, Mark nos So I've been the last I

1249
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: think three weeks now, I've been sleeping until five. I

1250
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 2: get up and I go in there and I just

1251
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: I hit my knees. I always start. I need help

1252
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 2: positioning my mind in humility, and so I pick up

1253
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: this book called Valley of Vision. I'm sure you've heard

1254
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: of it.

1255
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always in somewhere. It's always in the next

1256
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: room over for me.

1257
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: And most days it stirs my heart with affections for

1258
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: Christ because I see my sin more clearly. And then

1259
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: that'll lead me into praying for Chrissy. I have a

1260
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: list that I pray for every day, and then praying

1261
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 2: for the children, praying for myself. These last few weeks,

1262
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: I have not been praying as faithfully for our church,

1263
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: but through our church membership. Because Mark Dever took an

1264
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: hour away from my holy sanctification. But yeah, those morning

1265
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: hours have been sweet, you know, since twenty eighteen. And

1266
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: you just all the godly dead dudes that we love,

1267
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: they didn't even have half of them, didn't have electricity

1268
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: to run, lights to read, but they were still up

1269
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: in the wee hours of morning under candle light, reading

1270
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: and meditating on God's word. God was faithful to them,

1271
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 2: and he helped them finish strong, and their lives just

1272
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: oozed Jesus Christ and I believe it was because of

1273
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,959
Speaker 2: their prayer time and their Bible study time.

1274
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Speaker 1: I've never talked to you about that, and I never

1275
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: heard you say that before, but I already was positive

1276
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: that that would be your answer. And you're right. You know,

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Speaker 1: George Mueller, for a long time he would he would

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Speaker 1: get up and pray and read, and he realized his

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Speaker 1: prayer life was dead until he switched the two that

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Speaker 1: the Bible the Scripture softened his cold dead heart and

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Speaker 1: every morning and supercharged it so that then his prayer

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Speaker 1: life came alive. Are you brushing your teeth before you

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01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: do this? You got coffee? What's what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I take our nite and our creatine collagen, caffeine so

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01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm putting good, good stuff in my system. I've never

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Speaker 2: been a coffee guy.

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Speaker 1: Just before you open the Bible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So when that alarm goes off, I wear these

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Speaker 2: stupid retainers to keep my teeth draight, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. So then I got to go there, put

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Speaker 2: them in this little water, this little fizzy fizzy thing whatever, right,

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Speaker 2: and then I go straight in. Man, this's is embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: I don't brush my teeth first, but I ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: lot to y'all.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then I get our our Knight, our creatine collagen,

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Speaker 2: and our electrolytes, and so I hydrate immediately. The ignite,

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Speaker 2: which is our kind of visceral fat burner, just really

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Speaker 2: kind of gives me a nice clean caffeine stem from

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Speaker 2: my mind. It really helps me focus in. And then

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Speaker 2: I lock in. Yeah, and then I lock in. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I lock in for a few hours and worship the Lord.

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Speaker 1: I was in a men's conference one time in Montana

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Speaker 1: and I did a poll on that question. You're in

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Speaker 1: the majority. People typically would brush their teeth after their

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: quiet time for some reason. I'm in the minority of

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Speaker 1: I wake up brush my teeth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then that's why your teeth are prayer? What's what?

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Speaker 2: I sleep with this mouth tit and I don't ever

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Speaker 2: really have morning breath, so like I brush my teeth

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Speaker 2: too hard. Chrissy's on me all the time.

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Speaker 1: We'll get.

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Speaker 2: You know, so I know she'll tell you she didn't

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Speaker 2: have morning breath either. It's like, listen, God's been so kind.

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Speaker 1: That is great.

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Speaker 2: Wow. We don't cuddle much because I'm too heavy to

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01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 2: make her hot. You know. It's it's about about four

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Speaker 2: minutes each night, hand on her half time. I I

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Speaker 2: like fall asleep praying for like she tells the funniest

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Speaker 2: stories because I get I'm so exhausted at the end

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Speaker 2: of the night. So I'm like I just put my

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Speaker 2: hand on her chest, you know, and she laughs because

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Speaker 2: I'll fall asleep like a narcoleptic, and then I'll wake

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Speaker 2: up like literally two minutes later, sometimes like right where

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Speaker 2: I right where I was left off in the prayers.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I don't know how you do this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I as amber and I as our marriage gets older,

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01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: she gets imperture wise. Hey, it looks wise too. She

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01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: gets hotter and I get I get colder. Like She's

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Speaker 1: She's like, I turned this act. I get you know,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get these blankets off, and I'm like kind

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01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: of chili dude, like we're going opposite directions. But but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she needs to cope on.

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Speaker 2: Amber, sleep with awaited blanket like Chrissy.

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Speaker 1: Does I do. Actually, she doesn't because she can't. She

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Speaker 1: can't take that. She she can't take the heat.

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Speaker 2: Christy Lilac so hot. Oh my, you's got a fifteen

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01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: pound blanket on your chest. I'm like, what are you doing.

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Speaker 1: That's a different episode. But dude, that that that routine is.

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Speaker 1: I've said this people, I've thought about this before. When

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Speaker 1: you seek first the Kingdom of Heaven, it means way

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01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: more than that, But it doesn't mean any less than

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01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: actually physically starting the day with Him first, the first fruits,

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01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: the first fruits, Bonhoffer. You to say, don't talk until

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: you've going through your quiet time, don't listen or talk

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: to anyone until God speaks. Let God have the first word. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these guys took this seriously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And when you when you hear about a moral failure,

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01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: a big public moral failure, almost always at the root

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Speaker 1: of it, you find they lost their daily devotional Their

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: morning devotional time was gone. Yeah, it's gone away.

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Speaker 2: And the pastor's burden of studying to feed and studying

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01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: to be fed, you know, and how often those blur

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01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: and I find those borring for me just to minister

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 2: to our men and our women. But it's such a

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01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 2: dangerous temptation, right that somehow I think I don't need

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Speaker 2: to be fed, that I only need to gather to feed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a that's a dangerous road, bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what an honor. But you're here. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: passing through. I hope to have you back.

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01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: And you name it.

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Speaker 1: You're You're a brother and a mentor. And I promise

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Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot better on my seven hours

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Speaker 1: of sleep. Thank you always. Thanks for joining me on

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Speaker 1: the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate all of you guys. You

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,240
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