1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast Better Than Most, Better Than Most, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Better Than Most. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: Winner, Trick Down, You Got Real Talent, Concentrate on God. 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by Draftkicks. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 4: I'm your host, Mike Calbers, and every Wednesday I'm going 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 4: to be joined by Spencer Agiar and Kyle Murray to 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 4: dive into the tournament. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 5: Of the week. 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 4: This week we have a special one, The Players Championship 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 4: Team off at TPC Sawgress on Thursday. It is the 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 4: unofficial fifth major in the PGA Tour and it's bringing 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 4: out the stars. Obviously, we have Scotty and Rory headlining field. 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 4: Last year we saw maximum drama with Rory pulling it 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 4: out in a playoff over JJ spawn Scotty of course 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: one in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: So that'll be a question that we get into right away. 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 6: Should it be. 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: Those two against the field? 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 4: Is this the kind of course that will present an 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: opportunity for someone to de throne them? 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: But before we into that, let's just talk about the 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: course broadly. 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 4: Pete Die's design is strategically demanding in so many different ways. 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: It emphasizes precision overpower. You got narrow landing zones on 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 4: those fairways, you have dog legs that really prevent bombing 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: it into necessitating layups. You got water everywhere. It's a 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: course that puts pressure on the field to fine tune 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: their approach, to really work through their short game, and 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: it pushes the players that have that in their bag 30 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: to the front of the class here. So let's start here, Spencer, 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 4: in terms of this course, does it rule out any 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: golfers in this field for you that otherwise you kind 33 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: of like you know, over the course of the season, 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 4: but this particular course not necessarily for them. 35 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, TPC Sawgrass 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: has always been this really challenging course to handicap. Like, 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: you don't have to look any further than this erratic 38 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: course history of every golfer in the field, you'll start 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: realizing the volatility is heightened at this venue. 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 5: But the one thing I will. 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: Say, Michael, that kind of will answer this question is 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: with all of that being said, is we've gotten over 43 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 1: the last handful of years this move from May to March, 44 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: and we used to have this unpredictability that would come 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: into play in May, and I think now in March 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: you get a little bit more predictability this course. If 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: you were trying to find the easier returns of it 48 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: was probably always better suited to be played in these 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: colder weather conditions. 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 5: Now, from a viewing perspective, I kind of would like 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 5: to see this. 52 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: Fiery test that we used to get in May, but 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the reasons why that this 54 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: event went from this long shot paradise if you look 55 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: at it ten fifteen years ago, used to get triple 56 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: digit winners all the time. You had a name like 57 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: I know we think of Seawu Kim now as one 58 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: of the favorites in this tournament, but go back to 59 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. He won this event at five hundred to one. 60 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden you get this iteration 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: of this event where you just talked about Michael. It's 62 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: Scotty two of the last three years, it's Rory last year. 63 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: It's all of this cream that has risen to the 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: top of it, and a lot of that comes down 65 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: to just the summer temperature and May used to give 66 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: us this Bermuda surface that was still dormant. It was 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: playable from the winter, but it created this ultra fiery 68 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: test that made stopping your irons on these smaller than 69 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: average greens nearly impossible. Some of that is still gonna 70 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: be here with the fast surface, You're gonna get a 71 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: lot softer. 72 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: Of a surface during this go around. 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: But more of where I'm going with this answer is 74 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: if you look at the Bermuda grass here, it gets 75 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: overseated in this part of the year, so softer landing areas, 76 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: more shot shaping control with your irons come into play. 77 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: And for me and Kyle and I were talking about 78 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: this a little bit off air, there is a reduction 79 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: that comes into play in my model in strokes gain 80 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: putting for that reason. So I'm looking for ball strikers. 81 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find guys that can find the fairway. 82 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be very thick rough. I want to find 83 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: guys that can scramble around the green. And then those 84 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: proximity ranges that I'm looking at, that's an ultra important 85 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: stat that I'm trying to find. So if you're diving 86 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: deep into numbers, and if you're looking for a certain 87 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: duration of time, like I would get rid of at 88 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: anything three twenty nineteen, and I would just look at 89 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: what this venue has been from twenty nineteen on when 90 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: we've gotten this in March, and I think you're going 91 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: to see a much different tournament at its core. 92 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 4: Wele to bring you in here for a question in 93 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: terms of a player to win outright, is there more 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: of a brutal stretch to close that out where you're 95 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: white knuckling it as someone holding potentially a pretty big 96 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 4: ticket than sixteen, seventeen and eighteen at this course. Sixteen 97 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: of course, the risk reward of the par five with 98 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: the water, seventeenth the island green is always a pressure cooker, 99 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: and then eighteen of that narrow tee shot with water 100 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: running up the entire left side. When you think about 101 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: this course vis a vis all the other ones that 102 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: these pros are going to go through throughout the course 103 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: of the season, is this ending stretch the most difficult 104 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: and potential, you know, to bring the most drama at 105 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: the end of a round. 106 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think. 107 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 7: I mean when you compare it to a tour courses 108 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 7: across the across the country and what we see played 109 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 7: every single week, I think it's tough for me to 110 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 7: think of a three hole st especially a closing stretch 111 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 7: sixteen seventeen eighteen, like here at Sawgrass. I mean over 112 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 7: the last seventeen season, seventeen events prior to this Gutty 113 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 7: Scheffler Tournament, we haven't seen a back to back winner 114 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 7: or repeat winner in that stretch. I think that goes 115 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 7: to show kind of volatility we should expect here at Sawgrass. 116 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 6: And when you look at. 117 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 7: The shoke stained year over year correlation at this course, 118 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 7: it's the lowest correlated course on tour. So I think 119 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 7: there's a lot of volatility variants that comes into play, 120 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 7: and a lot of that is these last three holes. 121 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 7: Obviously it's going to be where we see the pressure 122 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 7: cooker situations we saw last year with JJ spawn in 123 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 7: the playoffs, so I think that stuff's going to certainly 124 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 7: come to fruition here. But yeah, I think it's certainly 125 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 7: an exhilarating finish here, but it's not one that you 126 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 7: love to have a huge sweat on there when you're 127 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 7: relying on players hit the green on seventeen. Obviously there's 128 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 7: tons of water and play across the board on all 129 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 7: throughout the entire course, but specifically on these last three holes. 130 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 6: For sure. 131 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 7: I do think that one thing that Spencer alluded to 132 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 7: that I did want to kind of double down on. 133 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 7: Is the one kind of player I'm just not really 134 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 7: looking for here this week is just the guys who 135 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 7: strictly rely on putting. Obviously, we're going to have some 136 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 7: courses throughout the season that we'll have guys who can 137 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 7: come into play based on their elite putting prowess, and it's 138 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 7: going to be, you know, those thirty fast type situations. 139 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 6: That's not what I'm looking at here. 140 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 7: I'm you know, seeing in my model putting grading out 141 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 7: as a near zero effect of predictability here for players. 142 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 7: So I'm going to be straighting as far away from 143 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 7: possible as guys who really rely on that. 144 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 6: And that's going to be for me for most weeks 145 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 6: for what. 146 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 7: It's worth, but this week specifically, it's going to be 147 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 7: a ball striking centric model for me. 148 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 4: Let's jump into some head to heads and Spencer Europe 149 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 4: first here, taking Adam Scott over Justin Rose and Adam 150 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: Scott you have to go way back in the history books, 151 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: but he didn't win this one in two thousand and four, 152 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: and since then he's had multiple top tens throughout his career. 153 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: I think when you think his you know, ball striking 154 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 4: profile and how it relates to Pete Dide courses. He's 155 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: certainly found lots of success at CPC Sawgrass, but also 156 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 4: at Harbordtown Golf Links and then Whistling Straits as well. 157 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 4: Is there anything else in terms of this matchup where 158 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 4: perhaps you're fading more Justin Rose than necessarily backing and 159 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: tailing out of Scott. 160 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: I took a really deep dive into both of these 161 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: two golfers profiles because if you look at him Scott 162 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Michael you talked about it, if you go twenty years ago, 163 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: he was the staple of consistency at this tournament, and 164 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: if you go into the more recent term, it's been 165 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: a little bad across the board of it. So what 166 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to see with Scott's and Rose profiles is 167 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: how had they been leading into this tournament. And this 168 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: is not something that I always dive this deep into, 169 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: but it was one of those things where my model 170 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: really liked Adam Scott and it was trying to find 171 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: reasons to take on Justin Rose, and I just wanted 172 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: to see what does the Rose profile look like in 173 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: years that he finds success, and what does the Rose 174 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: profile looks like in years where he doesn't, then if 175 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: this bet is to lose, I will say this, there 176 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: is a very ominous return, if we want to call 177 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: it that within the Rose profile, that's maybe signaling a 178 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 1: little bit more strength than my model may be seeing 179 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: from just an upside perspective. Uh, the lead in form 180 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: from him is always a chaotic mess. You get miscuts, 181 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: you get victories, you get everything in between. But if 182 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: you just look at the five event lead and form 183 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: that he's bringing into this tournament from ball striking, this 184 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: is technically one of the better tournaments that we've seen 185 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: from Rose. 186 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 5: That worries me, ever so slightly. 187 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: A lot of that's coming with the approach game plus 188 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: two point two to four strokes game with his irons 189 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: over the last five his total ball striking profile is 190 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: plus one point four to two. So obviously, if you 191 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: just take those two numbers subtract it, that must mean 192 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: that the off the t stuff is losing for him. 193 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: Negative zero point eight two is what you're looking at 194 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: with the driver there. It's interesting with the profile of 195 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: Rose because every return over the last five years for 196 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: him has had him somewhere between zero point four to 197 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: two to zero point five to five of a loss 198 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: off the te so a little bit less than a 199 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: half stroke of what we're getting this week of worst 200 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: of Rose off the tee. I think what spooked me 201 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more with the profile though, before we 202 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: even get into any of the Adams Scott stuff, is 203 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: any of those short game metrics that you may like 204 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: with Justin Rose have just not been there recently. Like 205 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: I know Kyle and I have both talked over and 206 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: over again about that we are not highlighting putters and 207 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: we're not trying to find guys that get hot with 208 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: the putter. But if you have a profile where you 209 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: are one dimensional right now with your approach game, you're 210 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: off the t stuff looks bad. And then you have 211 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: this negative one point two output over the last handful 212 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: of events that we're looking at here with that short game, Like, 213 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: it's this really scary profile to me where Rose is 214 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: a boom or bust candidate to where there is a 215 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: ceiling output that we look on Sunday and he put 216 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: the pieces together with the irons and he ends up 217 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: coming top ten. But I also think that there is 218 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: a downside here and in matchups that is something that 219 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: you always should be trying to highlight and for me, 220 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: even if we find that upside with the Justin Rose profile, 221 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: Adam Scott right now is bringing the best form into 222 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: this tournament that we've seen in just years. He's gained 223 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: four point zero eight strokes ball striking per event over 224 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: the last five tournaments. The short game for him has 225 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: been positive nearly across the board, and if you compare 226 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: these two players, Scott's been about three point five shots 227 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: better to start this year than Rose. 228 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 5: From all tournaments. 229 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: We're looking at about two point six six better with 230 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: the ball striking. So I think if this does go 231 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: a misscut for Rose, we're in a really good spot. 232 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: And if Rose does play a little bit better and 233 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: does reach that upside quota within my model, I think 234 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: Adam Scott here is really primed for a big result 235 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: this week. 236 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: Kyle, you're going with a double dip here. Let's start 237 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: with your first head to head and it's Shane Lowry 238 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 4: over Jordan Speith, and you don't have to really get 239 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 4: too deep into it to fade Speth. I mean the 240 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 4: volatility off the sea. There's so much water on this course. 241 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: You know, he could probably put together a brilliant eighteen 242 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: thirty six hole run, but then you're always just waiting 243 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: for the other shoot to drop with Jordan. But talk 244 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 4: me through Lowry and why in particular you think he's 245 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 4: a good fit here at TBC. 246 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 247 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 7: I came on the show last week and kind of 248 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 7: talked about, you know, the safety of Shane Lowry versus Minrulee, 249 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 7: who I think was a more volatile golfer, and that 250 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 7: did not turn out well for me last week. 251 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 6: Lowry missed the cut to Lee. I think was T 252 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 6: six last week. 253 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 7: But bottom line, I think looking at Shane Lowry's recent 254 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 7: events and what we've seen him put on paper, dating 255 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 7: all the way back to really the Masters last season, 256 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 7: he just has not had a week that bad on 257 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 7: approach dating back to prior to the Masters of last season, 258 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 7: so April of twenty twenty five, looking at events, you know, 259 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 7: obviously some tournaments there on the DP World Tour, but 260 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 7: last week was the first time he lost strokes in 261 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 7: a professional event dating back to August tenth, twenty twenty five, 262 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 7: at the Saint Jude where he lost point one strokes 263 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 7: on approach, and prior to that it was the RBC 264 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 7: Heritage All the way back in April of last year, 265 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 7: so he was just such a consistent approach player. I 266 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 7: think last week we just got an outlier poor week 267 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 7: on approach for Shane Lowry. And I do think that 268 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 7: there's also going to be you know, the benefit of 269 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 7: his around the game play, potentially spying a little bit 270 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 7: as we've seen the last couple of weeks as well, 271 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 7: So it's going to be beneficial for him. And then 272 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 7: obviously it's also a bit of a fade here on speed. 273 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 7: Like you mentioned, there's just a lot of volatility in 274 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 7: the speed profile, and when looking at what he's been 275 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 7: able to accomplish in terms of you know, his end 276 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 7: results as of play, it's been pretty good, right T 277 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 7: twenty four, he missed the cut top twenty nine, T twelve, 278 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 7: and then T eleven last week at the API, so 279 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 7: he's had you know, four out of his last five 280 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 7: starts inside the top thirty. 281 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 6: Those are pretty consistent finishes. 282 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 7: But the strokes gain profile does not back those kinds 283 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 7: of results, of sort of fading that there, and again 284 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 7: he does fit the profile of somebody who has you know, 285 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 7: really benefited from his putting, right, that's the main portion 286 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 7: of his game that is excelling right now. He's thirteenth 287 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 7: in my model this week in putting over the last 288 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 7: am I blended strokes gaining model, and then outside of 289 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 7: that he's outside of the top thirty and every other 290 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 7: strokes gained category. So it is, you know, something to 291 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 7: look at with Lowry. 292 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 6: And his instancy. 293 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 7: And obviously I do think that we are getting a 294 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 7: little bit of a discount due to an outlier week 295 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 7: in my opinion last week, but also it is quite 296 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 7: a bit of a fade here on George Feeth in 297 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 7: this matchup. 298 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: Now, looking at your overall card, you're pretty bullish on Substraca. 299 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: You already took him earlier in the week against Koepka. 300 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: Boat speaks specifically in his head to head with foul 301 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 4: or now. Straka has elite approach play, which we all know. 302 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 4: He's a controlled, accurate driver as well. I think kind 303 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 4: of an underrated factor. We don't know exactly what the 304 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: wind's going to be, but historically he's performed well, you know, 305 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 4: played University of Georgia has a reputation to someone who 306 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: can cut the ball through the wins. Talk with me 307 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 4: through a little bit more of what Straka brings and 308 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: why he popped off the pagtree this week. 309 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, I do think that, you know, Straka is the 310 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 7: guy who grades out in the top ten am I 311 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 7: model this week for a lot of the things that 312 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 7: you just suggested. Obviously, his T degreen play has been 313 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 7: amongst the top ten in this field over the am 314 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 7: I Blended model, and especially as of as of late 315 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 7: in the last twenty four rounds, he's eighth in stropskin 316 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 7: ted degree and so the T green play has been fantastic. 317 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 7: But I do think that there's going to be you know, 318 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 7: quite an important pettigre to just targeting these precise players 319 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 7: off the T who can also translate to elite iron 320 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 7: play and strata. Has been just that he's been accurate 321 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 7: off the T's been top ten on approach in my 322 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 7: weighted model and also over the last twenty four rounds 323 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 7: ranked six in this model in strokes skin approach. Ricky 324 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 7: Fowler is a scary player at FADE. I will say 325 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 7: he's not my I was looking for potentially some other 326 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 7: options there against Draca, but bottom line is followered. Does 327 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 7: also fit the profile of somebody who has gotten a 328 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 7: lot of his you know, his strong success rates from 329 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 7: his putting, and that's something that I am looking to 330 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 7: fade here this week. He's certainly somebody who can burn 331 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 7: you with the putter, and he has been a fairly consistent. 332 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 6: Producer in terms of end results. The approach play has 333 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 6: been fine. 334 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 7: He's twenty second over the last twenty four rounds in 335 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 7: strokes gain approach TD green play has been fine, but 336 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 7: again he's just been excelling with the putter. That's something 337 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 7: that I'm looking to fade here. I think there's really 338 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 7: no brick to value in strokes skin putting, and a 339 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 7: lot of these putting metrics, even on very niche things 340 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 7: like surface here on Bermuda, no different sort of distances 341 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 7: for potting. I just didn't see a lot of predictive 342 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 7: value and many putting metrics this week. So guys who 343 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 7: are getting a lot of their production done through that 344 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 7: are gonna be guys that don't grate out that great 345 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 7: in my model this week. And unfortunately, Ricky Foller is 346 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 7: one of those guys who I don't love to fade here, 347 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 7: but I do give a pretty significant extra straca this week. 348 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: Do miss any of our best bets by signing up 349 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: for Action Pro Action Pro usual users get real time 350 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: alerts as soon as experts like Spencer and Kyle track 351 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 4: picks in the appies. You want to get the best bets, 352 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: but also at the best prices. 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Let's 381 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: start with Max McGreevy Spencer in terms of where you 382 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: want to target here. Obviously you don't have him outright, 383 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: but he's one of those guys who is not going 384 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: to beat himself. He's not going to have those blow 385 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 4: up polls. 386 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 6: You know. 387 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: The kind of mentality I would imagine from a wager 388 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: like this is you're looking for chaos around him and 389 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: for him to just say stay steady and stay what 390 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: in the top twenty, top ten? 391 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: Where you thinking about his range here? 392 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 5: So last year I laddered McGreevy up. 393 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: I had him five hundred to one to win this tournament, 394 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: and I laddered him all the way up to a 395 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: top forty wager. And I was telling Kyle before we 396 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: came on air, it was one of the worst Sundays 397 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: that I can ever recall. He entered that round either 398 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: within the top five or the top ten. And you 399 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: talked about Michael like he doesn't have a lot of 400 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: those blow up potential holes. And I don't know what 401 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: he did on the back nine. He had already kind 402 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: of had a shaky round to begin with. He was 403 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: fifty one yards out on his second shot. He airmails 404 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: the green. There's water behind the green. He airmails the water. 405 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: She's behind some tree. He tries to chip it out, 406 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: almost dunks it in the water. Now he's still short 407 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: of the green. He takes that shot and goes back 408 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: into the bunker that he was in to begin with, 409 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: and he makes a mess of this, ends up losing 410 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: the top five, ends up losing the top ten, ends 411 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: up chopping the top twenty, and I ended up getting 412 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: there with the top thirty in the top forty. But honestly, 413 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: I think that you can kind of play this in 414 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: a lot of different iterations this go around, Like for me, 415 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: my preferred route would probably be a top twenty. There 416 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: are some upside metrics with him that really like him 417 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: in my model this week to push it a little 418 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: bit higher up number one player for me at courses 419 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: that are similar that feature a lot of water off 420 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: the tea, so inaccurate golfer that's not going to make 421 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: the mistake there. Same profile comes into play with a 422 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: lot of the approach stuff inside of the top twenty five. 423 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: There good win player, a player that kind of has 424 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: the potential to work himself up the leaderboard in a 425 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: lot of different ways and then hold himself there hopefully. 426 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: So I'm fine laddering this in a lot of different ways. 427 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: I bet him out right at two hundred and fifty 428 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: to one, and I'm going to take a very cheap 429 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: shot there. I think the top twenty would be my 430 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: preferred route, but I really don't have any pushback if 431 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: anybody wants to play him in any range really between 432 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: a top five to a top forty. 433 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: Kyle, let's talk Patrick Can'tley, you know an elite player 434 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 4: at least from a mid iron perspect if you look 435 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 4: him at top twenty plus two seventy right now in 436 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: the market, as always go around, shop around for the 437 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: best number there. 438 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 3: What's your cutoff for him at you know, at top twenty? 439 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: Is it five to two? 440 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: Is it right where it is right now at plus 441 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 4: two seventy, and what do you think the absolute ceiling 442 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: is if everything clicks for him this week? 443 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. 444 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 7: I don't know last time I bet on Patrick Cantlay here, 445 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 7: but you know I do like him. Marie grades out 446 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 7: as a strong value on the top twenty market in 447 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 7: my model plus two seventy, I think I would probably 448 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 7: bet him down to about plus two thirty plus two 449 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 7: twenty five or so. I think you can made a 450 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 7: case for it at at plus two hundred, but I 451 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 7: think where you continue to get some some solid value 452 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 7: plus two twenty five, I would probably be I cut 453 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 7: off there. You Cantlay has been fairly hit or miss 454 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 7: at times. 455 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 6: Obviously. 456 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 7: We've seen a couple of really bad performances last week, 457 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 7: missed the cut, the API, missed the cut the Farmers. 458 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 7: We've also see some spike weeks in that stretch as well. 459 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 7: T thirteen at the MX T fourteen at Pebble Beach, 460 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 7: and I think a lot of that volatility is obviously 461 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 7: scary here, especially at Sawgrass, But I do think that 462 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 7: he is somebody wh if fits well here. He's someone 463 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 7: who can certainly, you know, float to the top of 464 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 7: you know, the driving accuracy metrics across the board. He 465 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 7: has some strong putting performances at times, some of that 466 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 7: strong putting spike plays at times, which again that's not 467 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 7: something that I'm looking for this week, someone who puts 468 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 7: out you know, necessarily consistent putting. But I'm looking for 469 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 7: guys who at least have the ability to go out 470 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 7: there and have those spike putting weeks at times, because 471 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 7: you know, we are going to see some of that 472 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 7: here and here and there throughout the four rounds here. 473 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 7: But in my blended Strokes Gain model fifteenth and t 474 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 7: degree play Top twenty, in terms of strop skin approach 475 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 7: to a lot of those ball striking metrics are kind 476 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 7: of floating him to the top of some of these 477 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 7: numbers here in my model, I grate him as the 478 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 7: thirteenth best player in the model for this course. So 479 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 7: I do see some pretty significant value on the top twenty. 480 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: I don't want to skip over Shane Lowry, but you 481 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 4: already mentioned kind of, you know the fundamentals of why 482 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 4: you like Tom over Speed, he's plus two fifty to 483 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: make the top twenty. Let's talk about Jacob Bridgeman for 484 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: a moment, because obviously he came onto the map winning 485 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 4: the Genesis in Vitational earlier this season. Do you think 486 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 4: that kind of momentum is going to give him the 487 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: confidence to hang with the big boys here at the 488 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 4: unofficial fifth Major of the PGA Tour. 489 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is where I'm gonna have to kind of 490 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 7: defend some of the stuff that I've talked about previously, 491 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 7: because you know, if someone goes in and looks at 492 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 7: Bridgman's stats and kind of where he's really excelled, it 493 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 7: is putting. He's the best putter in my strokes gain 494 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 7: blended model, So obviously that's going to be something that 495 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 7: correlates with these top end finishes right the obviously the 496 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 7: win Genesis t at a Pebble Beach, We're going to 497 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 7: see guys, especially who have smaller samples like Bridgeman, sort 498 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 7: of float to the top in terms of their strokes 499 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 7: gain putting when you don't have a ton of data there. 500 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 7: But looking throughout the board TD Green Play, he's thirty 501 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 7: sixth in the blended model fourteenth in approach though, so 502 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 7: I do think that he isn't necessarily the perfect fit 503 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 7: for me in terms of off the tee play for 504 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 7: this course. He is a guy who obviously has the distance, 505 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 7: but not necessarily an immense amount of accuracy. So that's 506 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 7: why I'm only looking at him here in the top 507 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 7: twenty rather than in the outright market, which he does 508 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 7: show some value in my model in the outright market, 509 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 7: but I think there's a couple of guys who I 510 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 7: like to target a bit more, so that's why I'm 511 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 7: sticking to the top twenty. But obviously we've seen the 512 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 7: Spike Weeks four Bridgeman at times. He played this course 513 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 7: once over the past, obviously in his career, but last 514 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 7: year he got some experience at Sawgrass, so thinking that 515 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 7: that will also help to have that under his belt. 516 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 7: But again just kind of you know, doubling down on 517 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 7: some of these approach numbers and the t degree numbers, 518 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 7: which again are small sample size, But I do think 519 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 7: that over the last you know, twenty four rounds or so, 520 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 7: top ten and Shirkskin approach is going to be someone 521 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 7: that I'm going to have some interesting and I do 522 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 7: think that there's still some value here in this plus 523 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 7: two fifty for the top twenty just way obviously him 524 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 7: having a lot of success recently. 525 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: Let's tuck outrights here. 526 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 4: Seawoo Kim has already been mentioned, and Spencer you like 527 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 4: him twenty won in twenty seventeen. He was the youngest 528 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 4: to ever win this event. The range of outcomes, I 529 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: feel like if somebody offered me either win or get cut, 530 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 4: Seawoo Kim maybe at the top of my list, because 531 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: he can put his way into or out of this 532 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 4: tournament really at any three or four hole stretch. 533 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: Beyond that, what else do you think needs to be 534 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: mentioned when you talk Kim in this tournament? 535 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you kind of set it from 536 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: an outright wager in particular, like if you're trying to 537 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: land the winner, you're not trying to find the guy 538 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: that's gonna come in eleventh place. You're trying to shoot 539 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: for upside. And I think that's why Kyle and I 540 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: both when we build our models, like as I've started 541 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: to talk to him more, I know that this is 542 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: what he incorporates into his Also, like we like ball strikers, 543 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: we like guys that can spike with the putter, and 544 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately see who doesn't seem to do much of the spiking. 545 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of the negative with it. But 546 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: I got this at forty to one when it opened 547 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: on Monday, and this number has been completely slashed in half. 548 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: Like there are twenties in the space. I do think 549 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: the best price is at twenty four to one on DraftKings. 550 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: That is a price that I still think has value 551 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: at that particular total. 552 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, there's a much different. 553 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: Range of outcomes at forty to one versus some of 554 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: the eighteens that you might find in this space. So 555 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: obviously shop around the better you can get the best, 556 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: or that this bet becomes but forty three shots to 557 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: the field that he has gained over his last seven 558 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: starts ball striking. 559 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 5: It is this high upside, high ceiling. Try to be. 560 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: Neutral with the putter and if you can put the 561 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: pieces together, you have the chance with a profile like 562 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: his to actually do that. One of the things that 563 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: I ran this week, and I think and I'll talk 564 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: about at the end, there are a lot of names 565 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: that Kyle and I have that overlap. One of the 566 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: things that I tried to look for is I took 567 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: a portion of my model, it removed putting all together 568 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: from it, and it just looked at four categories, put 569 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: a threshold return to remove every name that didn't fit 570 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: into the top twenty of the singular parts of these builds. 571 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: So that's expected proximity for Sawgrass. That's weighted driving for 572 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: the week. So those are two stats that are completely 573 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: towards this course. It is weighted scoring and it has 574 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: weighted strokes gain total. So at the end of the day, 575 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: how are you projected to do with a lot of 576 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: your ball striking metrics for this course that we have 577 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: on hand. There were four golfers that landed inside of 578 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: the top twenty of each. One of those areas Seewu, 579 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Kim Ludvig Oberg, Colin Morikawa, Sepstraka. I would not be 580 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: shocked if the winner ends up landing with one of 581 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: those names. It's kind of where my outright card has 582 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: been built to begin with. I personally like Seewu the 583 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: best at the number that I got him at at 584 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: forty to one. It's a different bet at the end 585 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: of the day if you're trying to compare these twenties 586 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: to the Colin Morikawa's twenties that are out there, But 587 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: I think this is a spot for seawou where at 588 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm just shooting on the 589 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: shooting and banking on hopefully getting that upside. 590 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 4: You just mentioned Kluin Marikawa, Kyle, you like him at 591 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: twenty to one. He shook off the rust, broke out 592 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: of that drought as about two and a half years 593 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 4: between wins on the PGA Tour, he wins at Pebble. 594 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: You can make a strong argument when he's playing his 595 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 4: best golf, he's the best iron player in the world, 596 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: which certainly lends itself to this course. Anything else you'd 597 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: bring to the table with Colin at this price point. 598 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think you can also argue that 599 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 7: even when he's not at his best, he's one of 600 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 7: the premiere iron players in the world. I mean, we saw, 601 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 7: you know, even in that twenty twenty four and some 602 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 7: of the twenty twenty five season where he just didn't 603 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 7: quite have it from what we saw from in the past, 604 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 7: and he was still, you know, looking really really strong 605 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 7: on paper in the approach category. But yeah, you're absolutely 606 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 7: right when he's dialed in, when he has you know, 607 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 7: he's clicking on all cylinders. There's not many guys that 608 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 7: you're going to be taking from a pure stroke skin 609 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 7: approach or approach play candidate other than Kalam Marakawa, And 610 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 7: obviously that's going to generate a lot of buzz for 611 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 7: him in my model where that is such a strong 612 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 7: indicator for. 613 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 6: Me this week. 614 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 7: But again, he's also someone who thrives with accuracy, and 615 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 7: I think in the course that's going to sort of 616 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 7: lean towards guys who are more accurate rather than than bombers. 617 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 7: That's also going to help him quite a bit here. 618 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 7: You know, the putting not showing much predictiveness here is 619 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 7: is also going to help calam Marakawa. And then a 620 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 7: lot of his proximate numbers. Obviously Spencer touched on that 621 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 7: as well. But you know, when looking at specific you 622 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 7: know Yard's buckets here obviously for me, hundred yards to 623 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 7: one hundred fifty yards is going to be you know, 624 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 7: the most important bucket, and Marikawa in that grouping has 625 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 7: the second best proximity to the pin on approach in 626 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 7: those plays and also leads. You know, he's top in 627 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 7: this field and strokes can approach in that distance as well, 628 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 7: So I think there's a lot of things from the 629 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 7: approach player are going to look good for Morikaw. But 630 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: I think again the you know, the precision off the 631 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 7: tee and you know, the putting not driving a lot 632 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 7: of predictive value this week has me on Maricaw at 633 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 7: twenty to one. 634 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: You also like Kideki Matsuyama almost at forty to one, 635 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: And just from an outsider perspective, I'm gonna say I 636 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: like people who can win on really difficult golf courses. 637 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: You know, this is not if this was a tournament 638 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: that someone's going to win at twenty two to twenty 639 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: five under, I wouldn't be interested in him really at 640 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 4: any number, But when the course can be demanding and 641 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 4: lower scores are ending up being in the mix on Sunday, 642 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 4: he's a name that rises to the top of the 643 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: list for me, particularly at this value level. Anything else 644 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 4: in terms of his game or how he's playing right 645 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 4: now leading into the tournament. 646 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: And the start on Thursday, that has you encouraged. 647 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely. 648 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 7: I mean I think obviously he's someone that does also 649 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 7: fit the bill of these ball strikers who you know, 650 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 7: might not necessarily have the you know, the greatest putting actimen. 651 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 6: But again he's someone who can certainly end up. 652 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 7: You know, if we look back on on Sunday night 653 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 7: or Monday morning and saw that Hitdekie mount Syama led 654 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 7: the field in in ted green strokes gain, no one 655 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 7: would really be all that surprised. I'm not looking too 656 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 7: much at course history because again there's a lot of 657 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 7: volatility here. 658 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 6: So what I did was I ended up. 659 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 7: Factoring in you know, some course comparisons and some Pete 660 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 7: Die Strokes gain profiles and Hitadakian mount Yama grades out 661 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 7: really well and those sorts of environments. So when when 662 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 7: putting those into you know, more of the equation of 663 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 7: course fit our course history rather than just simply taking 664 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 7: sawgrass where you know, we can see guys, you know 665 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 7: we've seen it historically, right, you know two years ago 666 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 7: Dokie Mountayama t six, three years ago, fifth place finish 667 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 7: during it all the way back to twenty twenty during 668 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 7: the COVID year. He I think he shot seven or 669 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 7: eight under in round one and was leading before that 670 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 7: was suspended. But he also has two misscuts in there, 671 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 7: so there's a lot of volatility in terms of looking 672 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 7: at simply just the course history at Sagress. But I 673 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 7: do think there is some predictive value to kind of 674 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 7: molding in more of a profile for certain players based 675 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 7: on the course design. Right, These these shorter courses that 676 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 7: demand a lot of accuracy, that demand you know, a 677 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 7: lot of you know, strong approach play. And also I 678 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 7: do think that stroke stating around the green is going 679 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 7: to be crucial this week. Not really a stat I 680 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 7: touched on and honestly, it's not a stat that I, 681 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 7: you know, typically grade super high in my model unless 682 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 7: it's really standing out, and that is something that is 683 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 7: you know, profiling as a big impact factor this week 684 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 7: because I do think again putting is going to be 685 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 7: less predictive because these ball strikers are going to allow 686 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 7: themselves to be put into better positions. I think anybody 687 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 7: can sort of you know, have a good week or 688 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 7: a bad week putting, So not a ton of predictive 689 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 7: value there, but for you know, the times where we're 690 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 7: not hitting greens with these players, strokes stating around the 691 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 7: green is going to be a very crucial, you know, 692 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 7: predictive stat here. And obviously Kimaiyama grades out really well 693 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 7: in that category. I have them as the second best 694 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 7: around the green player in this field this week, so 695 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 7: a lot of good things for Hedecki. 696 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 4: Maatciama, you've set yourself up well. Here is your number 697 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 4: one player, Alex Norn in that regard, because he is 698 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: a lead from a short game and scrambling perspective, and 699 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: obviously this course has small greens, they got runoffs, they 700 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: got water, so if you're able to avoid those, you know, 701 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 4: those bogies and double bogies by being a lead in 702 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: that regard. Eighty to one, that's a number that's enticing 703 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: for somebody who can get themselves out of trouble. 704 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I do have Justin Thomas still at number one. 705 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 7: Obviously some limited samples coming too play for JT. But 706 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 7: when looking back over the course of the last year, 707 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 7: so he's still number one and Strokes skinning around the green. 708 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 7: Obviously the rest of the game looks like a pretty 709 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 7: significant mess right now, but Norn is still top ten 710 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 7: and Strokes skating around the green having thirty fifth in 711 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 7: this field in approach play skill rating. So obviously, when 712 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 7: you're looking at a guy who is an eighty to 713 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 7: one type long shot here, who grades out as a 714 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 7: top twenty five player fit for this course in my model, 715 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 7: there's gonna be some nice value there. 716 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 6: So yeah, Norn at eighty to one. 717 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 7: Also, you know, liked him in top forty top twenty 718 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 7: marks as well, but definitely to highlight that eighty to 719 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 7: one number. 720 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 4: Let's go through the rest of your card lightning round style. 721 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 4: Burger over English at minus one eighteen on the juice. 722 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: Why do you like this one? 723 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 724 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 7: I was looking for ways to fade Harris English here 725 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 7: around the green play it has been poor. Approach play 726 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 7: has been poor, and you know, luckily we got a 727 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 7: Burger matchup market there where he's been not great around 728 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 7: the green but a top six player over the last 729 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 7: six months in my model. 730 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 6: Here on approach. So I like Burger over English there. 731 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 4: All right, let's keep going. Let's talk about Smotherman, a 732 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: volletle player. But perhaps you know there's ways on your 733 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 4: card to play him. You liked them, like him at 734 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: top twenty at almost seven to one. 735 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I had him in this market last week as well. 736 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 7: I also took a dart on the outright. I don't 737 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 7: think I can do the outright this week because obviously 738 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 7: he Withdrew last week with a back issue, so obviously 739 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 7: work noting. 740 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 6: I don't think this number will move at all. I 741 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 6: could be. 742 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 7: Wrong, but I don't mind waiting this one out, maybe 743 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 7: until you know, midday Wednesday, and seeing if we get 744 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 7: any sort of news. Obviously, golf news is hard to 745 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 7: come by when we're talking about specific injuries and other 746 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 7: options for across the sporty markets and also someme other 747 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 7: not necessarily the biggest name in golf, so maybe we 748 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 7: don't get news there, but don't mind waiting to see 749 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 7: if we do get any any rumors there. 750 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: We make sure I pronounced his name rights zeichhang do dough. 751 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: Is that correct? 752 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 6: Yep, that's what I have as well. So all right, excell. 753 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 4: Once we're off to a great start here, Now talk 754 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 4: to me about his game and why he's a solid 755 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: pick to finish in the top twenty at plus eight fifty. 756 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think eight to fifty for a top twenty 757 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 7: is obviously a longer shot play here, Certainly not somebody 758 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 7: I'm looking to back the out markets, but he is 759 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 7: someone that you know, fits what I'm looking for to 760 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 7: t Obviously some smaller sample stuff here as well, but 761 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 7: in that small sample he grates out was the top 762 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 7: fifteen recent form strokes gain approach player and top twenty 763 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 7: five in around the Green. So when just looking at 764 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 7: his sharps gain profile like that one there at eight 765 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 7: fifty and any simmed out well for me as. 766 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: Well, another top twenty mac Meisner plus five fifty eleven 767 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: to two out there in the market. Anything different in 768 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 4: terms of his you know, player profile as it relates 769 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: to this course as as some of the other ones 770 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 4: you'd like this week. 771 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, Macmeiser, and this a J eight you were make 772 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 7: cut play at plus one eighteen. Both kind of just 773 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 7: fall in line with guys who just simmed out well 774 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 7: that they do have just some longer shots of like 775 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 7: plus one eighteen to make a cut here in a 776 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 7: very volatile event, you're not really going to get many 777 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 7: plus money options for guys in the make cut profile. 778 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 7: And you know, he's someone who does great out well 779 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 7: in terms of approach play of course fit and off 780 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 7: the t fit stuff. So you were at plus one 781 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 7: eighteen to make the cut, Macimiser. Here's someone who's I've 782 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 7: been betting on pretty significantly, you know, pretty much all 783 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 7: season long. A very strong approach player with the ability 784 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 7: to spike there. But he also fits very well for 785 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 7: this course, specifically in different yard buckets and obviously proximity stuff. 786 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 7: So I like Mackimiser top twenty. And then my last 787 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 7: play here Ricky. I know faded Ricky in the seventy 788 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 7: two hole matchup, but I liked him in the round 789 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 7: one three ball here against Speith and Tagala. Sweeth and 790 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 7: Gala both had strong showings last week, as did Ricky, 791 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 7: but plus one seventy here in a three ball market 792 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 7: for Ricky Fowler, who again has been one of the 793 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 7: safer players over the course of the last few months. 794 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 6: And then you have Spieth and who have both been 795 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 6: very volatile. 796 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 7: So I'll take Ricky Fowler here a plus one seven 797 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 7: in the three ball market. 798 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 4: If any markets were to pop Spencer in terms of 799 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 4: being able to grab both Scotty and Rory against the field, 800 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 4: what would be your cutoff in terms of juice that 801 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 4: you'd like to have both of those golfers. 802 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: I think there's been an overcorrection that's happened a little 803 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: bit with the Scotty shuffler, so maybe even with Rory 804 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: if you want to. 805 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 5: Look at it with the back. 806 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I have proper right now on Scotty, which 807 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: he's drifted a little bit from where I had him 808 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: last week. I came on this show and talked about 809 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: all the reasons why I liked him. I have proper 810 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: for him a little bit over five to one. I mean, 811 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: so you can honestly shop around it and still find 812 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: prices for him that are somewhat doable. I'm less in 813 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: on the Rory McElroy profile. I ended up having Stewoo 814 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: Kim as my second most likely person to win this 815 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: golf tournament, So I don't know exactly what I think 816 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: Rory's adding to the mix right now with this. I 817 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: would almost rather just see what I can get Scottie, 818 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: and if you can get him somewhere in that six seven, 819 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: eight to one range, I think you certainly have to 820 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: consider it to double down a little bit on what 821 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: Kyle just talked about with a lot of those names, 822 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: Like I just ran right now some of the placement 823 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: markets and the players for me that were the best 824 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: values that I had on the board. Ewart McGreevy now Smotherman, Meisner, Smally, 825 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: you guys might be better with names than I am. 826 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to butcher and miss mispronounced names, 827 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: but Sue Darshan, Yella Majaru that might be correct, but 828 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: that was another name that ended up popping for me. 829 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's essentially the City seven and guys that 830 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: I would be trying to find ways to get exposure 831 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: to this weekend. A lot of those markets I kind 832 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: of mentioned at the beginning. 833 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 5: I have a lot of agreement. 834 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: With what Kyle said. I really like Shane Lowery here 835 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: against Jordan's speed. The speak profile is so boom or 836 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: bust because of the putter. This is the worst ball 837 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: striking he's taken to the tournament. I ended up backing Stepstraka. 838 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: I got him very early on Monday, and it's not 839 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: doable for this market right now. I got him against 840 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: Brooks Koepka in the one thirties. That's out into like 841 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: the two hundreds now, so not something that's going to 842 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: necessarily be able to be given on this show. But 843 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: the other one would be Jacob Bridgeman. I like the 844 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: top twenty call from Kyle. I took him in a 845 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: matchup against Sam Burns. I think both have about the 846 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: same amount of value depending on which way you want 847 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: to take it, but there's a lot of different routes 848 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: to take and of everything that has been said on 849 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: this show so far, in my opinion, the sharpest thing 850 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: was from Kyle when we just talk about over correction 851 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: to the market and names that drift too far one 852 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: way or another based off of what they've done through 853 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: a short term sample size. 854 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 5: You get that with Lowry, You get that. 855 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: With Can't Lay from the good or I'm sorry, from 856 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: the bad of the profile and then the good end 857 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: of it quote unquote from Jordan Speith ends up boosting 858 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: him a little bit too high up on the board. 859 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, you're always trying 860 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: to find these incongruities to the market that end up 861 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: forming because of the overcorrection that takes place. 862 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 5: And this is not just the golf thing. 863 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: This plays across every single sport with whatever you're wanting 864 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: to bet. I used to come on here on action 865 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: shows and if you want to talk about Monday night football, 866 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: like the primetime game that everybody's seeing the team that 867 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: gets blown out in that game, everybody thinks it's going 868 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: to happen again, and Can't Lay is kind of the 869 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: prime poster child for that where everybody's looking for a 870 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: reason to not want to back them, which ends up 871 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: inflating some of these secondary markets like a top twenty. 872 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: I understand if you want to make the argument that 873 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: can't lay doesn't win. Kyle talked about he doesn't bet, 874 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: can't lay, I do bet, can't lay, I bet him 875 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: or too often and. 876 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 5: It usually doesn't work out. But these top. 877 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: Twenty markets you don't need a victory from. And then 878 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: same thing with Shane Lowry. He absolutely imploded on himself 879 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: down the stretch and that's all anybody wanted to see. 880 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: He misses the cut in the next start. And if 881 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: you just want to look at profiles, I talked about 882 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: this when I was discussing the Scott and the Rose play. 883 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: Lowry is very consistent coming into this tournament. He provides 884 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: almost this same exact ball striking mark over and over 885 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: and over again. And if if you are concerned about 886 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: the two point three shots that he lost with his 887 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: approach game in twenty twenty three, he also lost two 888 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: point seven shots at the Arnold Palmer. He came back 889 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: at the players and gained six point five. So this 890 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: is a golfer that loves the floor to swing. That 891 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: can find upside in these events, and when you have 892 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: a golfer like speed that every single time in my 893 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: model entering this tournament, he's gained less than one stroke 894 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: ball striking, he's missed the cut, and a lot of 895 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: these are positive ones in like the zero point four 896 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: to zero point nine range where he's actually gaining. He's 897 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: negative zero point six' two right. Now ball striking one 898 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: of the worst Profiles i've seen from. Speech SO i 899 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: would not be number shopping in the sense that like 900 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: look at where what place the eleventh to twelfth to twenty, 901 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: Ninth like that's not telling the picture of What jordan's 902 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: speak is actually. Doing. 903 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 5: It it's all, putter it's all flat. 904 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: Stick at the end of the, day that's The jordan's 905 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: speech special that you always have to worry, about but 906 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: not really one of those tournaments where you should be 907 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: banking on that sort of a. 908 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 4: Result all, right, guys appreciate you everything you brought to the. 909 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 4: Table we got tons of bets throughout this. 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