1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: This is John. This is the m m okay Storytime 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: podcast hosts, and. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: We have some. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Good story is coming up for you. That's right. 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 3: But before that, we have a little more sol of 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: a two minute outbreak from the sponsors keeping the show delicious. 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: HM. The hiring manager where I have an interview is 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: someone I fired last year. 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: That's a weird power complex. 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: I thirty female hired a girl thirty female over the summer. 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: She didn't make it through her probationary period. She came 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: highly recommended by her references. She was a fast learner, 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: had worked through a merger and helped it go through seamlessly. 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user Throwaway, a job seeker, 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: to the r slash Okay Storytime subbured it. I'm Dakota, I'm. 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: Riley, I'm Carly, and we are here to. 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Give good advice. Goofly, but we don't have all the answers. 19 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: We only know what we'd do, so tell us what 20 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: you would do in the comments. As Op says, she 21 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: was terrible at her job with my company then fired 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: her on her eighty ninth day. Mmm, fair you hired 23 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: her the day before her probationary period ended. 24 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: It's a tactic, nothing personal. 25 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: On her exit interview, she stated that she felt she 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: had been poorly trained and that MY temper made her 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: worried about asking for further training, stating that I blew 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: up on her when she asked for clarification on something 29 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: a few weeks in. She then packed her things and 30 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: left without so much as another word. 31 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so I see flaws on both sides here. 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm starting to I found out through a mutual 33 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: friend the day she was fired, she was offered her 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: job back with a three dollars an hour raise and 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: added responsibilities, despite having quit just days into her two weeks. Notice, Okay, buddy, 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: you can't pull that because you did the scumbag move 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: of firing her the day before she became an actual employee. 38 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: I feel like that was probably a rug pull type 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: of move. Doesn't sound like you were like, hey, I 40 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that you can thrive here 41 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and it's like, you know, you've 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: got twenty more days of your probationary period. I think 43 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: you really have to prove you know that you're an 44 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: asset here. I doubt you did any of that. I 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: think you pulled the rug out from under her on 46 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: the eighty ninth day. 47 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like you're a good manager, honestly, are you? 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: Are you working with people? Are you working people? That's 49 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: the question I always ask myself. 50 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: Boom boom boom. 51 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: Sometimes you get to work, that's fun. 52 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: Oh god, well, my boss had to lay us all 53 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: off because of recent events. When I called and got 54 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: an interview, the woman who spoke to me said that 55 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: the hiring manager slash trainer would be seeing me in 56 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: the office despite it being closed and everyone working remotely. 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: I was given her name, and I instantly felt sick 58 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: because it was her. 59 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: Uh oh. 60 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: I didn't realize the company had changed their name since 61 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: I had seen her resume. 62 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: Dang, what comes around usually gets put on your back? 63 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, comes back, comes back around. 64 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: That's not how I heard it. 65 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: Come around the back? Should I even go to the interview? 66 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: I admit I do have a pretty bad temper that 67 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: she had witnessed within days of being hired. But I 68 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: was great at my job. It doesn't sound like it. 69 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: I know her company is desperately hiring workers to meet 70 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: demand and I need the job. 71 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: Mmm. I think I say that's someone with the worst 72 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: temper ever, and everyone can say here that I have 73 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: a pretty bad temper. To go for it. 74 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: You said you haven't bad temper. 75 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, don't I no, Okay, thank god, I was 76 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: just using I was just using that as I don't 77 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: even know. Okay, it was like wre toimes, like what 78 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: are you talking at? 79 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: I think I don't even know when I've seen you 80 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: genuinely like raise your voice about anything. 81 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I haven't used that one yet. 82 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: I forgot. 83 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: I could pull that cord, the healing cord. But I 84 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: think you should go, and I think you could also. 85 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: I think you could say, hey, I've noticed in the 86 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: past my temper and I really want to change that, 87 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: and I feel like this place will give me a 88 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: clean stight. I think you can work the hiring process. 89 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: I love the US. 90 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: I think you should just go in there and face 91 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: the freaking music, and then you should go there and 92 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: see what happens. 93 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but it'll. 94 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Being scared, you'll being a little scandy cat. Oh do 95 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: I even go? What if she doesn't like me? You know, 96 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: she doesn't like you? 97 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably aren't gonna get hired, but you need 98 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: a job, so Carly. 99 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: You going, yeah, just to see what happens. 100 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the for the drama. 101 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: For the update, we've got some comments. Comment one says 102 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: there's also some useful commentary where this was shared on 103 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: Twitter Relationship advice. One of the biggest things is that 104 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: a person on their probationary period needs support, which you 105 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: gave the opposite of showing your temper and feedback to improve. 106 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: Sounds like all you gave was criticism, waiting purposefully until 107 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: the last possible day to fire with no consequences, and 108 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: then blaming her for leaving a couple days into her 109 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: two weeks notice after you fired her. Oh my goodness, 110 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: you live in a fantasy world. The fact that she 111 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: was immediately re hired with a raise while you're unemployed 112 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: gives you no place to have the gall to say 113 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: she was a bad fit. She outlasted you. The company 114 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: invested more money in her not to lose her because 115 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: she's exactly what they want and need, and you're still 116 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: blaming your bad training on her fit. Go to the 117 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: job interview. It will go one of four ways. Also, 118 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: I think this person is a little confused and thinks 119 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: that she got rehired to the original company that she 120 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: was working for. She left the company she got fired 121 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: by OP, went back to her old company immediately and 122 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: they gave her a raise. Is that right? Yeah? 123 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: That part, Yeah, that's what I thought. 124 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: That's what happened. And I think for some real Yeah, 125 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: that must have got crossed up for the commentary or us. 126 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: We never know because everyone got laid off at that's 127 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: why OPS. That's right. So she's a hiring manager, she's 128 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: not working in the same place. 129 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: That makes sense anyway. 130 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: So you go to the job interview. It will go 131 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: one of four ways. The good ending is you reflected 132 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: on how bad you were and resolved to be better, 133 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: and she has more integrity than you and gives you 134 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: a chance to prove change. Two is the petty ending. 135 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: How you do in the job interview barely matters. You 136 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: are capable enough to be hired, but the plan is 137 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: to accumulate evidence for a justifiable or not because who 138 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: cares firing on your eighty ninth day. Three is the 139 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: bad ending. You never had a shot at hiring from 140 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: any number of reasons, maybe mishandling the interview, maybe your temper. 141 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: Maybe your inability to tell the difference between a good 142 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: and bad job and the catastrophic bad ending is she 143 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: is willing to give you a fair shot that you 144 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: barely gave to her, but you insist on your bs 145 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: of talking down to her, calling your peer a girl 146 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: acting like temper is justifiable in a workplace and generally 147 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: make your toxicity other people's problems because you haven't grown up. Oh, 148 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: per response, she's not with my company but her previous employer. 149 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 3: Well, those literally you five years ago. I know no job. 150 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 1: I know my company went under due to the vid 151 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: cough cough, fizz fizz. I mean no, that's PLoP PLoP. Nevermind. 152 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: I love the part where they were like, oh, hopefully 153 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: this works out. They just they just came there to 154 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: correct them, showing that you haven't learned it all. You 155 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: went to Reddit just to waste time. 156 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Come in to Maybe this experience will teach you how 157 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: to treat people in positions below you. You never know 158 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: when those people might one day be above you, and 159 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: you will regret having behaved so awfully. Comment three. He 160 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: says you blew up at someone at work and didn't 161 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: sincerely apologize for your actions. This is karma and we 162 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: have the update. Folks. I think she got hired. 163 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: She got hired and then was put as an assistant. 164 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: So this person can torment them every. 165 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Day, I think so, And they won't. They'll just be 166 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: like a good boss. Probably. 167 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've had to like go through the parts of 168 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: like finding people to add to the team. It's tricky 169 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: because you got to like one, see how they fit 170 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: this one though. This like working here is like a 171 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: very chemistry based thing that if you aren't chemical rising 172 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: with people, it's not gonna work out intertwined. Yeah, like 173 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: those avatar people, but like this one being like I'm 174 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: assuming they work at a factory, so the chemistry aspect 175 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: probably doesn't matter as much and it's more like meeting 176 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: quota rather than. 177 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: Why you went to the factory. 178 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: Immediately, they're hiring a lot of people and they're needing jobs. 179 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: That's my thought. She is a hiring manager. That means 180 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: they hire a lot of people. Usually just the manager 181 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: handles hiring people. 182 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 4: I've worked at a lot of places that have hiring 183 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: managers for office setting manager missed your manager. 184 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: My brother went to a hiring manager and he worked 185 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: at a factory. Though that's that's my assumption. 186 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: I hope at the date now that would be a 187 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: free sponsor. Okay, what we have an update? I don't update. 188 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: Two days later, I got a lot of good feedback 189 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: and you guys are right. 190 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: Wait time out, Opie said, we were right. This is 191 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: a huge step for this person. Holy goal. 192 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: Think it could be I did let my temper get 193 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: the best of me in front of her on multiple occasions, 194 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: and that makes me a bad boss. I went to 195 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: her office unsure of what to expect. The door was 196 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: locked when I got there, so I stood outside waiting. 197 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: She came up behind me and said my name. She 198 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: asked me if I was ready to interview, and I 199 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: just said yes. We sat down in her office and 200 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: she pulled out her phone and started recording. She asked 201 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: me if I minded being taped, and I said no. 202 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: She asked me basic interview questions, and then she asked 203 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: me if there was anything that I knew I had 204 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: to work on and told her that my temper was 205 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: an issue in the past, but that I have had 206 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: a sudden wake up call out my temper and I 207 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: was actively working on it. 208 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: How did I call that? 209 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: Honestly? Bro Like if I hear you say that I'm 210 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: not giving you the job. Yeah, No, to be like, oh, yeah, 211 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: I had a when I realized you were interviewing me. 212 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: I had a sudden wake up call in the last 213 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: day and a half that I really should work on it, 214 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: and I have been. It's like you were almost there 215 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: and you almost had. 216 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: It, Loki. If you tell a story about how you're 217 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: gonna change your temper, that could work. Like, Oh, I 218 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: was being really mad, mean to like a parent of 219 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: mine and it passed away. I'm not going to be 220 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: mean to people anymore. That's a very dramatic and dark one, 221 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 3: but I feel like that gets the point across a 222 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: little last work. Yeah, that happens you, Loki need a miracle. 223 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: I'm not seeing a miracle here. 224 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, as soon if you get the job, I think 225 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: you will probably just like not change. But hey, the 226 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: the journey of a billion trillion miles starts with one 227 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: little baby step or whatever they say. So, okay, I. 228 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: Thought it was to reach a million steps, you still 229 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: need to take one step. 230 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think that. 231 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: I don't think that's it. I read that post or wrong. 232 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: I think it's the journey of a journey of a 233 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: thousand miles starts with a single step. Boo boom. 234 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: Wait the one I read. 235 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: Was ten thousand, ten thousand miles. Yeah, and I would 236 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: walk ten thousand meters. 237 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: Don't make it part imperial. No, wait, don't make it. 238 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: Don't make it metric. 239 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: It's only tests. That's just ten k. It's like I 240 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: would walk a ten k and then I would walk 241 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: another one. Anyway, anyways, right back, So I told her 242 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: I had my wake up call about my temper and 243 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: that I was actively working on it. I apologized for 244 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: leaving her hanging with training and that I was glad 245 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: to see she was in a better position. She told 246 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: me that one of the things she had learned was forgiveness. Oh, 247 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: you guys are kind of flirting. She had left the 248 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: company she was at and re hired to because they 249 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: had wronged her during the MR. Oh, she was offered 250 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: the position back. It was with an apology, a raise, 251 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: and now she's in a better position than when she left. 252 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: She said, sometimes an apology can start you down the 253 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: path towards something better. She told me that she is 254 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: willing to hire me for a good wage because she 255 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: knew I was good at a lot of things at 256 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: my previous job. She said, if I lost my temper 257 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: during the trial period, it would be the end, but 258 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: she was hopeful that it wouldn't happen. She asked me 259 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: if I could start Friday. We did it. I knew 260 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: you were gonna get dead job. Ope, I freaking knew. 261 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: It something if I was just hiring managers. Some things 262 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: I need to know is is OPI that the person 263 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: that wrote this? I think male or female? 264 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: Both ladies? 265 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: Both ladies, okay? Because I feel like if it was 266 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: a guy losing his temper in front of a woman, 267 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: it would be a little bit of a different thing 268 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: than a woman. A woman, I am assuming, but I 269 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: would feel a little like. 270 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 4: Why would that be different to you? 271 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Because it's probably scarier. 272 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm not judging. 273 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: I'm genuinely curious. 274 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, scary because if, like, to be honest, if the 275 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 3: Cody yelled at me versus Carly, I'd probably feel a 276 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: little bit more like, oh God, whoa man? I think 277 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: Carly like, oh Carly. 278 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's funny because I feel like the opposite because. 279 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: Would get me to yell. So I think it would 280 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: be scarier if you got me to that point. 281 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: I feel like for men, it's scarier when ladies. Yelling 282 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: for ladies is scary now then yell. 283 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: Now that I'm thinking it is also a person a person, 284 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: because if my mom yells me, it affects me more 285 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 3: than if like, okay. Anyways, so we got that out 286 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 3: out of the way into what are they hiring for? 287 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: I really want to know that part, because if it's 288 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: not chemistry base at all, I don't think it really matters. 289 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: And they laid it out well that if they lost 290 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: their temper capache, yeah, yeah, I. 291 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Think, oh, he's probably maybe gonna lose your temper and 292 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: then lose your job. But that's you're there so or 293 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: she's gonna be like, oh no, your probationary period was 294 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: one hundred days, not ninety days. It's gonna throw a 295 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: temper tantrum on the ninety first day. Anyway, she started 296 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: training me today and I definitely realized I was the 297 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: problem and why she didn't succeed where I was. She 298 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: is absolutely wonderful at the job with great client interactions. 299 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: She should have been able to easily pick up the 300 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: work I was throwing at her if she had been 301 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: properly trained. I'm glad that she gave the company a 302 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: second chance, because she deserves everything they have given her. 303 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: I hope to learn a lot from her and show 304 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: her that she didn't waste her time on me. I've 305 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: also signed up for therapy to manage my anger online. 306 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: Top comments number one. Now this is wholesome. I hope 307 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: you do actually go to anger management classes. Ope, best 308 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: of luck to you. Comment too says it takes a 309 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: lot to swallow your pride and admit you were wrong. 310 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: Well done, op Comment three. I am glad that this 311 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: worked out for you. I am glad that you went 312 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: through with it, and I am glad that she took you. 313 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: You are very lucky. I wish you the best. I 314 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: probably would not have gone through with it. 315 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: Oh, that's the end of the story. 316 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: Took a lot of courage, but also I think desperation 317 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: was on your side too. 318 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 319 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, after that stunt you pulled flying on 320 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: the eighty ninth day, I gotta say I wouldn't hire you. 321 00:13:59,559 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: Yuh. 322 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: Eighty ninth day is like, bro, I don't want that 323 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: energy anywhere around me. You fired me on the eighty 324 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: ninth threaty think. 325 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: About it, though, Think about it. Think about it, though, 326 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: OPI did this person a favor in a roundabout way. 327 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: She got back at her job, better position, better wage, 328 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 3: and she's not at a job where they just let 329 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: go of everyone. She's scrambled and found something that is true. 330 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the that's the Chinese horse fable. Yeah, you 331 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: ever know, you never know what's actually good or bad. 332 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: You don't, and I don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, 333 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: so I could see in a way where that. 334 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: Hiring manager's like, you know what, actually, thank you, thank 335 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: you for firing, thank you for being a terrible manager. 336 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: So I couldn't succeed had my job been setting me 337 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: up for failure? 338 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: Yes, because now I have beta job and now you 339 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: are jobbing at my job. 340 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: Job in it, I'm jobbing it. My employee quit after 341 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: I spent thousands accommodating her special needs. 342 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Well that's sometimes, that's sometimes that's what happens. 343 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: Sorry, it said they've decided to move back down to 344 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: Cornwall with family. 345 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: Wait, yeah, that's why they quit. So the original title 346 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: is a bit more descriptive. If you want me to 347 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 4: read that really. 348 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, read the original title. 349 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, the original title is I spend seventeen thousand, nine hundred. 350 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: I and it's just put like. 351 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: Pounds eighteen thousand, eighteen thousand years or pounds converting aspects 352 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: of my office, break room, desk, elevator, and disabled bathroom 353 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 4: to make it accessible for an employee with the disability 354 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: who requested these changes. They left two weeks after the 355 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: work was finished. Can I go after them for some 356 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: cost in small claims court? 357 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: Uh? Probably not, but I bet you can go after 358 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: the state with government. Okay, I think they're I think 359 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: they're in England or yeah, I think there's pounds. 360 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: Of cornwalls and yeah, so they've decided to move back 361 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: down the cornwall with family. Another SMAF member who she 362 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: was friendly with, said she'd been planning to leave since August. 363 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: This means that this staff member knew they weren't going 364 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: to be around to use the adjustments. By the way, 365 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: this comes from Antique bet thirty five and if you 366 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: want to spit your own stories, go to our fabulous 367 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: our such okay stories. I'm subredded, I'm Riley, I'm Dakota, 368 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: and our job is to give good advice in a 369 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: goufuly manner to you. Your job type in the comments, 370 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: your expertise, on your thoughts on this, because none of 371 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: us are handicapped and we don't know how to feel 372 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: about this. 373 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: So well, you dyslexia, But that's. 374 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: Like a mental one. It's not like a I can't 375 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: walk because I'm dyslexic. I don't think that can happen soon. 376 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just gonna like write a bunch of words 377 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: and letters numbers on the ground wherever you go say 378 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: and be like. 379 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: Guys, I couldn't make it to work today. I read 380 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: all the signs wrong. 381 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: I don't know where I am. Oh man, we can 382 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: say that, we can't allow we're allowed to make fun 383 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: of dyslexia. 384 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: He is dyslexic a little. That's what I think of 385 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: him as that. First, can we get a test? Can 386 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: we get a doctor here to diagnose me? On stream? 387 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 4: That? 388 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: What do you you wait? 389 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: What can we get a doctor here? You've never had 390 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: a diagnosis for just read it online and like everything 391 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: made a lot of sense. It was like, Oh, that's 392 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: why I get when you know, not like you asked 393 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: me a questions. Sometimes I get a little frantic. Apparently 394 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: that's a that's a side effect of having dyslexia. 395 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: Huh, right, isn't that weird. 396 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: It's like I feel pressure to know all the answers 397 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: because every time I did like those English tests, you know, 398 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: those like English tests where you read it and you're 399 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: supposed to like answer, what's the theme of the story. 400 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: I'd always do bad at those because I didn't, like 401 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 3: have reading comprehension. I was just trying to read it 402 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: and I didn't understand. 403 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: It to like, thank you that's the theme of the story? 404 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: Words, Yeah, sounds so now since my brain's developed that 405 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: I somehow associated with that. That's my guess. Anyway, Sorry, 406 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: I went on a little ranther I spent a load 407 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: of money renovating an old relevator, lowering countertops in the 408 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: break room to make them accessible, and getting a special 409 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: desk area to help with their disability. I'm sorry. It 410 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: was just my solution to this. It's like, just make 411 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: them a special area instead of renovating everything. Just like hey, 412 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: here you go out. We made like a we have 413 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 3: a tent for you out front. 414 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: You can be in and uh, we'll just we'll install 415 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: one of those like two We'll get like two cans 416 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: and put always string between him and we'll like talk 417 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: to each other. 418 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: I'm losing us. 419 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: He read it online, but it said something else because 420 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: he's disliked. 421 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: It's like this whole time you've been diabetic. 422 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: That's good. Oh man. These are all things which they 423 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: requested along with the doctor's note explaining their disability, with 424 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: a copy of their PIP decision, and a copy of 425 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: their PIP decision which showed they were awarded standards daily 426 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: living and why Editor's note Personal Independence Payment, UK welfare 427 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: benefit to help with extra living costs for people with 428 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: the physical or mental health condition or disability. We met 429 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: several times through August and September to discuss their needs 430 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: and whether there were any compromises I could make to 431 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: reduce the cost. She stated there weren't. So he's asking like, hey, 432 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: this is gonna take a lot to know, you. 433 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: Know, ALU drop eighteen big ones you think I can? 434 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: Is there anything I can do to not have to 435 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: drop that much money? And they're just like, no, No, 436 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to. 437 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: Do that for me. And it would make sense if 438 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: you're like a big corporation, but if you're a small business, 439 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: I feel like that you should get some compensation. 440 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like there's got to be some sort 441 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: of recourse with the government here where it's like, yeah, 442 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: I did all this stuff to be in accordance with 443 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: like whatever they needed, and then they just left. Is 444 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: there any dello? Is there any can I be compensated 445 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: in any way for that? 446 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 3: So it seems like she was hired in August or September. 447 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: Never once did she mention that she was leaving a 448 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: November work finished on the tenth of November. She resigned 449 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: on Friday the twenty first, without any notice. I don't 450 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: want to sound spiteful, but is there any way I 451 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: can reclaim any of these costs? The disabled bathroom had 452 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: to be widened and have special rails fitted to accommodate them. Additionally, 453 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: a special desk was purchased for them, and break room 454 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: counters were lowered. None of these sayings actually benefit any 455 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: of my other staff members who aren't disabled. The whole 456 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: budget that would have gone on Christmas bonuses has been 457 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: completely blown on someone who wasn't even intending to stay 458 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: with us. I do have emails from the staff member 459 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: to her friend where she discussed moving back with her 460 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: family in Cornwall and her plans. It's crystal clear that 461 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 3: she was intending to leave in November. I've got that 462 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: in writing. It's worth noting that one reason behind these 463 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: high costs was I had to pay a premium to 464 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: get the work done quickly. While this was happening, I 465 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 3: permitted this staff member to work from home as and 466 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: when they needed to, in line with their disabilities. I 467 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: never required them to come into the office until the 468 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: accommodation work was done. 469 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: Why. 470 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: I just want to say, you were very thoughtful in this, 471 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: and this is quite a pickle. 472 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: A pickle we found. I don't know. I think I 473 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: assume them. Yeah, if you can try to recoup any 474 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: of it, be like, dude, you like you had me 475 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: do all this stuff. You were only gonna work here 476 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: for three months, and you had me spend everyone's Christmas 477 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: bonuses on accommodations for you that you don't need because 478 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: you knew you were leaving. Yeah, it's like what we're 479 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: talking about. 480 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: I would like to know what this work is because 481 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: you can now have someone else that's disabled. If it's 482 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: like primarily not a physical labor job. 483 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, I mean, something could be worked out 484 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, well, if you can't really access 485 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: to office, Like maybe we get you a remote position 486 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: or something. I don't know what the work is, but 487 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, if you're gonna blow eighteen grand on somebody, 488 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: it's because you're expecting them to be around for a while, 489 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: not because you know it's like, oh, yeah, for sure 490 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: a couple months, two and a half months, we've met Cornwall. 491 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: You're a cornball for that, bro. 492 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that just says, honestly, you need to consult a 493 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: lawyer about all of this. Yeah, talk to a lawyer. 494 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 3: I think that's the best first move to do. At 495 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: other occupational lawyers, Carly, what like occupational lawyers are like 496 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: disability occupational lawyers. 497 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 4: Lawyers that will specialize in that kind of stuff. 498 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: Lawyers always be specializing. 499 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: It's something I need to get a crime lawyer? 500 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 3: What what what crime has? 501 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: Following Batman vigilantheism, Anonymous was just here. 502 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 3: I need to get a crime doctor too, crime doctor. 503 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: I mean sorry, crime lawyer, crime lawyer. 504 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: Crime doctor? 505 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 3: You like a mafia doctor because someone stole my heart. 506 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: What do they call a mafia doctor? A bit binarian? Hey, 507 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: because they don't care. They don't go to the doctor. 508 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: They go to the vet. Oh yeah, I remember that 509 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: because they don't go to hospital. 510 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: I was just thinking of that one scene in Godfather 511 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: where Vet probably had to help out. Yes, sure, Wow, 512 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: Whitney has some insights here. All right, that's too much. 513 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: I can't read that. 514 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: I was I was scrolling to read something on my own. 515 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: I was pointing that out. 516 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: Cool. So we got some relevant comments here. People probably 517 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 3: give us some insights. Come to one. So was this 518 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: a job that could have been done from home? He says, 519 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: not fully operate on a third three to two what. 520 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Day office two days at home? Probably hybrid. 521 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 3: We operate on a hybrid model of three days in 522 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: the office to at home. She was fully remote given 523 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: her disability with staff in the office picking up things 524 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: she couldn't do remotely. Commoner two, It doesn't seem like 525 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: a crime has been committed here, not even a civil one. 526 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: They haven't misrepresented anything, nor entered into a contract that 527 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: require them to pay for it. You have done everything 528 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: in line with the EQ Act twenty ten. Editor's Note 529 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: The UK UK Act the Equality Act twenty ten legally 530 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: protects people from discrimeration in the workplace and in wider society. 531 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: I'm not getting any of that here. I don't move 532 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: to the UK. I get discriminated every day. 533 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: Riley read this word. 534 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 4: You don't have an official diagnosis. 535 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: Wow, and they make fun of me for not figuring 536 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: out how to get one. Sorry, it's hard to read 537 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: notes and give it to people to ride on them. Bro, 538 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: you know how you got what doctor's notes? 539 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: You've gotta go to It is making you write the 540 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 4: doctor's notes. 541 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, it's all the online research I've looked at. 542 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: It's a little hard to. 543 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: Guy drinking pooch in the woods you say, yeah, write 544 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: whatever you want. 545 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are a little harder to find than you 546 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: would think. You could write. 547 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: Ooch doctors in the woods. Yeah, you're gonna have to 548 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: go deep into the appellations for those boys. 549 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: You could write this off as renovations and put it 550 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: in your job advertisement disability friendly office, lift, disabled toilet, 551 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. And if you sell the building, 552 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: if it is yours cell later down the line, you 553 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: could advertise that as a part of the cell. That's true, 554 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: most likely most likely Avenue I'll go down. 555 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can just recoup your investment in you know, 556 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: the future sale of your assets. 557 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: I'm just furious and upset right now. The whole team 558 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 3: and I bent over backwards for her. She used it 559 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 3: once when I told her the renovations were complete and 560 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: she needed to start working the hybrid model of three 561 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: days in office, two days at home with the colleagues. 562 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: Then she just left. She really put me and her 563 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: colleagues under immense pressure to accommodate her. Her teammates had 564 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: to do things that needed doing around the office. They 565 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: drive stuff out to her house when she asked for it. 566 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: We're all just disgusted by her behavior. 567 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it really sounds like she could have just 568 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: stayed remote the entire time. Yeah, especially if she would 569 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: have just told you she's going back to Cornwall in November. 570 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, then we'll just keep you on as 571 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: remote until you're done working here. Why would we redo 572 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: the entire building, you know, not the whole building, but 573 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, why would we do like eighteen thousand pounds 574 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: worth of renovations when you're not going to work here 575 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: and you can do your job remote. 576 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Coming to three emphasis on the reasonable adjustments. If 577 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: OP didn't think they were reasonable, it should have been 578 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: said when they were requested as the employee has been 579 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: working from home for several months as needed, that could 580 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: have been made a long term Marie adjustment versus the 581 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: costly adjustments in office. I assume Opie has a reason 582 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 3: for this, but I can't think what it would These 583 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 3: aren't even words. 584 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: But I work for home Home PRN CORN work from 585 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: home corn? That is this? What this is? Professional research? 586 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: What is this? I don't know? 587 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: Is this? 588 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: Is this a corn side? Are we talking about a cornsi? 589 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: No? 590 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: No, no, no no no. 591 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 4: It means as the situation, It means pro as the 592 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 4: situation arises. 593 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: But I can't think of what it would be if 594 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: w f H p r N has been managed successfully 595 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: for her so long, Opie says her colleagues have been 596 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: doing the parts of her job that need to be 597 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: done in the office. The agreement was that she'd be 598 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: back on a three days in office tays at home 599 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: when the renovations were complete. Opie explains more about the 600 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: emails between the staff member and her friend about moving, 601 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 3: the adjustments on the office and the Christmas bonuses. Oh, 602 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: the emails were sent out on our office outlook system 603 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: supplied by a staff member she was friends with who 604 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: is now furious at her because the exmis bonus has 605 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: been spent on this. I usually give all my staff 606 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: one thousand pounds to two thousand pounds extra at Christmas, 607 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: depending on how well we do. This nonsense has left 608 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 3: us with no spare cash to do anything more than 609 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: maybe fifty pounds each. I'm furious and embarrassed about this. 610 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: Fifteen staff members are going without a one thousand pounds 611 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: Christmas bonus because she lied that we needed these accommodations made. 612 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: I have email receipts proving she was never going to 613 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 3: be using them. In September, she sent an email to 614 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: her friend confirming she was going to Cornwall in November. 615 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: Despite this, she kept pushing for adjustments to be made 616 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: during this time and stated she could not come into 617 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 3: the office until they were complete. She never mentioned to 618 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: me once that she was going to be leaving. I 619 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: have an idea, guys, We're gonna do a car wash 620 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: raising money for the disabled, and then use all that 621 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: money you spent for bonuses for people because you are 622 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 3: basically in a way paying for renovations in the office. 623 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: So you want them to work for their Christmas bone, so. 624 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: You're pro it would be a team effort. It would 625 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: be working extra okay, but it's gonna be fun. How 626 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: hot is the car wash? It's in the UK, It's Christmas, 627 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be so cold. 628 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna shovel for people wash. 629 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 4: I'm not doing any manual labor for my job. 630 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't want Christmas. 631 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: What about cooking cooks? 632 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: So gross? Bro, like this, this person clearly was on 633 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: some sort of like power trip, yeah, or like, I 634 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: don't know, power trip is the thing that makes the 635 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: most sense. 636 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 4: I'm curious how they had been getting treated in the 637 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 4: office though, because this to me seems like it was 638 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 4: coming from something that we're not seeing. 639 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't even think they were treated anyway in the office, 640 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: cause I don't think they were in the office. 641 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: I think they were doing remote and LP wants them 642 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: to be in the office is because they don't want 643 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: to be like, oh, you have disability, you have to 644 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: work from home, and they would to be accommodating in 645 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: that way. And then she's like, well, I can't work 646 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: in the office till you do these things, which is 647 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: and then just like when it's like it doesn't matter 648 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: because you're only going to be here for three months. 649 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: Well that was hidden though, right. 650 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 4: He's like complaining, Oh, the other employees have to pick 651 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 4: up slack because you're working from home. It's like, well, yeah, 652 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: that's her accommodation. Is the other employees with the stuff. 653 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: The whole reason that was a problem is because she 654 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: didn't say she was leaving, so op's working on the 655 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: assumption that's like, this is the situation forever. 656 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: So it was just going to be the situation for 657 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 4: three months, not part. But it's like it could have 658 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 4: very easily just been like, oh, yeah, this is this 659 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: is the accommodation for her working from home. 660 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like that Tom out what you smel scam? Yeah, 661 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: hear me out hear me? I think I'm gonna hear you. 662 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 3: You got it? I think, so what is it? 663 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: What is if I line up? I think, who knows? 664 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: Maybe she's in with the contracting company that does all 665 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: this stuff. I'm I mean it's a stretch, but like, 666 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: are they mased in cornwall? 667 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: Oh it looks like the job's gonna be done at 668 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: the end of October. I'm gonna leave in November. Find 669 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: another job that needs to meet these requirements. God a 670 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: little sloppy though. If that's the reason. But that's that's 671 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 3: all the tame. Yeah, it's I mean, cause like if 672 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: you've been doing it'd be pretty hard to keep that 673 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: anonymous though, you know. 674 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: Like the same company gets hired. 675 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you control like that they even pick 676 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: the company that you know? Maybe just you know who knows. 677 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: Well, she's a pro. She she knows they're pros, the. 678 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: Pros over there in Cornwall. Hey, it's sam og host. 679 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to these delectable stories. But here's 680 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: three minutes of ads. 681 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: From our sponsors to help support the show. 682 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: All right. Coming to four, why didn't you just let 683 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: them permanently work remote? You did this to yourself by 684 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: requiring them to report to the office. No ope, he says, 685 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: because her colleagues were having to do the aspects of 686 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 3: her job on her site that she wasn't coming in for. 687 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: She also used to work in office full time previs 688 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: She was one employee who refused to move hybrid with 689 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: the others. Comment to five says, just to be a 690 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: little different here, just want to say what an effort, 691 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 3: lots of time, money and effort, and for what feels 692 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 3: right now, for nothing, lots of good advice here, but 693 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: just want to validate your feelings of frustration and bewilderment. 694 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: Let's hope they don't ask for a reference. This definitely 695 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: feels unfair. Hopefully a lot of the work can be 696 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: tax deductible. Maybe hope, He says, Yeah, it's all business expense. 697 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: I'd still rather have given that money to my staff, though, 698 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: I feel like complete crap not giving Christmas bonus this year. 699 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: That's why I'm up at two am looking to see 700 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: what I can do. I can probably manage two hundred 701 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: pounds each from my personal savings, and I'll add on 702 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: add on some extra by taking her payroll, maybe five 703 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: hundred pounds if I'm lucky. Okay, cool, you probably could 704 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: comment six says you are out of luck. Then sounds 705 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: like the job can be just done as easily from 706 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: home and at your arbitrary of demand, and to make 707 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 3: someone work from an office is a sevteen thousand pound 708 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: how do you seventeen thousand pounds? Yeah, and your arbitrary 709 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: demand to make someone work from an office instead is 710 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: a seventeen thousand pound mistake on your part. It's tough 711 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: to feel sorry for you because of all of this. 712 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: Could have been avoided if you would simply acted reasonable 713 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: to begin. 714 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: No comment or you're wrong, this person is acting under 715 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: the assumption this person gonna be working here for a 716 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: long time. 717 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, commenter, here you go, you're oh, go ahead 718 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: to garthen. 719 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 4: No, because my thing is, though, like when it came 720 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: down to, like, okay, I will be working here for 721 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: a long time. If those accommodations were too much to 722 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 4: put in. The other accommodation is you can keep working 723 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: at home and I don't have to do any of 724 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 4: this contracting work and I can just pay one person 725 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 4: a little bit more for having to do the other 726 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 4: little things in the office. True, but like there wasn't 727 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: that need to do it because there was the workaround 728 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: that she can work from home. But which is how 729 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 4: he's going to get screwed of not getting that money back. 730 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 3: That's true, But I think reading ope here, he's a 731 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: team player and he wants us, he wants this team 732 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 3: to be with him because he's really upset that he's 733 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: not going to be able to give his team bonuses. 734 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's just the 735 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: law too. If she asks it like that, he has 736 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: to do it. 737 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: That's the thing. If she asked, one of his valid 738 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 4: options would have just been, oh, we'll just keep you 739 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 4: remote then, But if he just. 740 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Has to do with even if she even if he 741 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: does that as soon as she asked, then she goes, oh, 742 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm being made to be different 743 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: than the rest of my employees. Yeah, she didn't. 744 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: We don't know that that's what she was going to do. 745 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: I think that was a card. 746 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: I think wanted to keep working from nobody knew what 747 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: she was going to do. So and if she wanted 748 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: to work remote, she could have kept her job and 749 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: worked in freaking cornwall. 750 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 751 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: It's just it's weird. 752 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: It's like she she. 753 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: Kept that a secret on purpose, she planned it. It's weird, 754 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: and it is like it feels like something she did 755 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: to get like vengeance on somebody, because there is now 756 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: we know that she worked in the office full time 757 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: and it weren't these accommodations, and so it feels like 758 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: this is some sort of like fu Before she leaves. 759 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 3: Yeah sop, he says, there are aspects which can only 760 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 3: be done in person. I don't want to risk identifying 761 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: my business, but it can only be done partially remote, 762 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: even during the lockdown. We need three to four staff 763 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: members rotating into the site and we have an update. 764 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: I just think Opie is a team player and he 765 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 3: wants her to feel included on the team, and her 766 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: just working remote would have been like, Ah, that's not 767 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: It's a temporary solve, but not a full time solve, 768 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 3: because I don't want you to feel bad for being different. Yeah, Okay, 769 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 770 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 4: I just don't think that's like a valid excuse on 771 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 4: Opie's part. 772 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: Well, you would have saved eighteen thousand pounds. 773 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 774 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 4: I think we're missing some conversation from the story. 775 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: Basically, now I'm fully saying that the employee is entirely 776 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: in the wrong. I mean like, because you guys, if 777 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: I was going to move out of town, I wouldn't 778 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: secretly do it and then leave you guys like where's Dakota. 779 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, he quit over the break we 780 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: lost like our host and it's like what, like what 781 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: do we do? Like and you guys don't even cut 782 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: But it's just like it's that element that's making me go, like, 783 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: what is what is the motivation behind doing this? And 784 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: I think you are right, though there is something we're missing, 785 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: and I. 786 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 4: Think something's happening we're missing in the. 787 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: Office that made her want to like screw them over. 788 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 4: I think I don't even know context. 789 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know if OP knows though, because it 790 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: could have happened with anybody in the office. 791 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: What are you saying, Carly that. 792 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 4: I agree, I think something happened between OP and this employee. Though, 793 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 4: oh we didn't get that contest, got. 794 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 3: It, guys, we got an update. Good evening, everyone, good evening. 795 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: Just wanted to follow up now that a little bit 796 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: of time has passed and I have a clear head, 797 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 3: I've consulted with a solicitor who advised there was a 798 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: strong case for pursuing this employee for cost. However, this 799 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 3: would be disadvantageous for pr reasons, and lined of that, 800 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 3: I've decided not to pursue them for cost at present. 801 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 3: Dany that does put a bit matter. 802 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it looks bad's and I do like 803 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: uh duchess Cassana says, I'm on the coat of side, 804 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: But I also don't think what she did was illegal. 805 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: It's just stinky. I agree, Like, I don't think what 806 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: she did was illegal either, but it's like she knew 807 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: exactly how to make this guy have to pay eighteen 808 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: grand and then left him with the bill. Like I mean, 809 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: he would have the bill regardless, but it's like it 810 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: was for her the employee. 811 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: Like, okay, storytime, Okay, Billy Tom says team player are controlling. 812 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: He needs to have eyes on everyone all the time. 813 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: I think, yes, See, dude, we're talking about somebody who 814 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: gives his employees. He's upset because he couldn't give his 815 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: employees bonuses. Yeah, and he's talking about going into his 816 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: personal savings. I don't think this guy's a bad boss whatsoever. No, 817 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't trust he's mad because he couldn't give his 818 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: employees bonuses for Christmas because all of the bonus accommodation. 819 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 4: And I think that's like the bad thing that came 820 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 4: out of this is that, like, these people aren't going 821 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 4: to get their bonuses. That part terrible. I think it's 822 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 4: awful that she did that. I don't think it's all 823 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 4: bad that his office is now disability accessible though. 824 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: No, but it's more of the sunk cost of like, well, 825 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: I did this for this employee. Yeah, yes, they pay 826 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: for it, but subterfuged me. 827 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: But he said that the reason it costs so much 828 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: more extra because she was like it needs to be 829 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 3: done immediately, where. 830 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: She kept pushing to have it done. It's just it's 831 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: just so weird when you're like, nah, I'm not even 832 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: gonna be here, and you're like, no, you have to 833 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: do this. It's there's something amiss. 834 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 4: Ye. 835 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: I wonder why. 836 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 4: I wonder why the coworker that she was emailing didn't 837 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 4: say anything sooner. 838 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, I was particularly clear in my previous post, 839 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: but the office I was already in had a functional elevator, 840 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: disabled bathroom, et cetera. My employee's disability, size and weight 841 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: meant that they were unable to use the existing elevator 842 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: and bathroom, which is why she specifically demanded that they'd 843 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 3: be changed. I've also seen a lot of comments and 844 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: got a lot of messages asking why my employee couldn't 845 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 3: just keep working from home, given that they'd been working 846 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 3: remotely since twenty nine. Not sure where this came from. 847 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 3: It isn't true. Our whole staff, including the employee with 848 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 3: the disability, was one hundred percent in the office before 849 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 3: the VID. She was working in her office in person 850 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 3: for years before the VID without reporting any accessibility issues. 851 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 3: After the VID, in March twenty twenty, we all went 852 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 3: remote from three to four staff members who rotated to 853 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 3: do the end off duties. This didn't work well and 854 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: we had to adopt a hybrid policy for all staff. 855 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 3: The employee with the disability was the sole one who 856 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 3: refused to return to the office. When the hybrid working 857 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 3: was reintroduced. There were a lot of comments saying how 858 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 3: I should have sought funding from DWP. We tried that 859 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: avenue at the time. Through this government scheme, there was 860 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: no funding for the type of adjustments that she was 861 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 3: requesting to be made. Other people asked why I had 862 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 3: done nothing for five years and then rushed this through. 863 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 3: This also isn't true. During those five years, I made 864 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 3: it concerted, first time that word's ever been used in 865 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 3: Okay Storytime history. Through those five I made a concerted 866 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: and continuous effort to bring staff member back into the 867 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 3: office in a hybrid pattern. This staff member was not 868 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 3: the only one who required adjustments, and I have a 869 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 3: fairly large team. During this time, I engaged with this 870 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 3: employee who had a disability, working with them, applying and 871 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 3: inquiring with the DWP's Access to Work program, et cetera. 872 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 3: We got a little bit more left here. 873 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, yeah, I don't know. Man. 874 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 3: Well it's a rendom call. 875 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: Just a yeah, what happened. 876 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 3: Speaking of the solicitor and showing him what we had 877 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 3: done before, he said that it was clear my office 878 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 3: already met the requirements under the Equality Act of twenty ten, 879 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 3: with the exception of the lowered counters in the bank 880 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 3: room which were installed, the improved elevator, and the wider 881 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 3: disabled bathrooms which we now have go beyond the requirements 882 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 3: of the Act. On the subject of the Christmas bonuses, 883 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: through a combination of no longer having to pay the 884 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 3: employee who left and selling some of my personal stocks 885 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: and shares, I've been able to partially fund this year's 886 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 3: Christmas bonuses. 887 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: Wow, what a g Wow. 888 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 3: And Carly still doesn't trust this guy, bro, Why not? 889 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: What has he what? 890 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 3: This dude wins to his savings to give them money? 891 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: Okay, damn noted? 892 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 3: All right, we got we got some comments left here. 893 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 3: That's the end of the story. Oh, p one, he replies. 894 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: One comment. Okay, so comment to one says, can you 895 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 3: please explain how you were going to pay the staff 896 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 3: bonuses before the staff member quit, or was your plan 897 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 3: all along to blame this staff member for the lack 898 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 3: of bonuses this year, even if she had stayed. That's 899 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 3: something that wasn't clear from your last post and could 900 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 3: impact any potential litimigation. Litigation, Okay, here we go, and 901 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 3: could impact any potential legation. Just say it for me, 902 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 3: litigation and could impact any potential litigation. I didn't mouth 903 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 3: it right. You didn't. There's like a in and there 904 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 3: that's not there, Opie says. Staff are a lot more 905 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: accepting of not getting a bonus if it means that 906 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: a colleague with a disability is getting the support that 907 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 3: they need. Staff are not accepting of a colleague making demands, 908 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 3: pushing her own work upon them, refusing to come back 909 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: and when everyone else did with hybrid measures and patterns, 910 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: and then disappearing when the company has spent seventeen pounds 911 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 3: making adjustments specifically for her, Which makes sense. So it 912 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 3: sounds like you were going to pin it on her, like, oh, 913 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 3: we need get bonuses this year, but now we get 914 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 3: to have. 915 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 4: Brittany, You're gonna pin it on her. 916 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 3: We get to have Brittany in office all the time 917 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: now yay, Yeah, I mean maybe, uh, I don't know. 918 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure it wouldn't have been like a yeah, everyone 919 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: looking for your Christmas bonus, go ask her? That would 920 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: be crazy. But yeah, I don't know. 921 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 4: I feel like something's missing with this whole, Like, well, 922 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 4: now she needs disability stuff and before she didn't. Yeah, 923 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 4: things change, A giant pandemic happened. Things could have changed. 924 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 4: She could have gotten sick and she could have gotten worse. Like, 925 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 4: I don't know something, But. 926 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: Then what's the problem there? He did the stuff, but 927 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: he was. 928 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 4: Like being a little poop about it. 929 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: After she abandoned the company, after he spent eighteen grand 930 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: on it. 931 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: I think we're missing something. 932 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: I don't sounds like this person didn't like working there 933 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: and there this is they're like f you. 934 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: Like why and they worked there for like five years? 935 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought they only worked there for. 936 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: You were going to Cornwall. They'd worked in the office 937 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: without any extra accommodations before. Everything in the office already 938 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: met the standards for the for the Act. 939 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: But I figured out how to say what little gay sun, 940 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 3: little gay son be like Liddy Liddy Gayson. 941 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: Geish litigation, like if someone ga, we figured. 942 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 3: It out, you know how long toime me to figure 943 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 3: out how to. 944 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 4: Oh no. 945 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 3: Start? But wow, yeah that was that was an interesting story. 946 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 3: Everyone check on your disabilities. See what you can do 947 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: to explore your company. And starting next week, we're gonna 948 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 3: have to have everything. All the words that are ever 949 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 3: said are gonna have to be in like like like 950 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 3: those things you know what I'm saying, like in what 951 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 3: in little in like inches in like you know how 952 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 3: it's like how to pronounce it, and it like gives 953 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 3: you I. 954 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: Can only read words that are one inch long. 955 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that. I don't know. I'm gonnaigure out. 956 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna exploit you guys, and I'm gonna you guys 957 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 3: are gonna have to pay for it. 958 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: I think there is a thing though, where it's like 959 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 1: if you space out the letters or something. I can't remember. 960 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: This is like a hazy memory. But I feel like 961 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: there's a way to make reading easier for people with this, 962 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 1: Like SI, it has to do with spacing the words 963 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 1: out in a certain way or the letters. 964 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about, Amy Lynn, 965 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 3: She says, honestly, being disabled, this sounds more like she 966 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 3: just didn't want to return in person and thought that 967 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 3: they would let her stay home if she demanded accommodations, 968 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 3: but they didn't. Kind of bothers me. 969 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the whole thing is, it's like, if you knew, 970 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: if I know I'm leaving town, I'm letting my job know. Hey, 971 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be gone. I'm moving back to Cornwall in November. 972 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: So that's the plan, and maybe I just work remote 973 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: until then, Casey and I will be leaving the company. 974 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 4: Listen, I don't disagree that it was a BS move 975 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 4: and she really screwed them all over. I just think 976 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 4: we're missing something. 977 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see them. Is there another story or 978 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: is this it? 979 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 4: Leave another story? 980 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 3: There is? Hey, it's John here. 981 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories. Put a quick 982 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: three minute ad break from our sponsors that keep the 983 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: show going. 984 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: My father stocked me at work and it got him fired. 985 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 2: Maybe he should be And this comes directly from the 986 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 2: r slash Okay storytime subred it what okay? So to 987 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 2: explain the title, my biological father was never in the picture. 988 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: He knew about me and paid child support, but him 989 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 2: and my mom were never together. I was a result 990 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 2: of a drunken one night stand, and he was basically irresponsible, 991 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 2: and he was basically not around, and my mom didn't 992 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: want me to be raised by him. By the way, 993 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 2: this comes from Tacy Archer thirty three, seventy one. And 994 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: if you want to smit your own stories, go to 995 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 2: the r slash Okay, storytime subred it. I'm Sophia, I'm Angie. 996 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm Dakota, and we're here to give good advice. Goofy. 997 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 2: But we don't know anything but what we know, So 998 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: let us know, you know, and maybe we'll compare notes. 999 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 3: Oh. 1000 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: He says he rarely wanted anything to do with me 1001 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 2: as a child, and my mom didn't go out of 1002 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: her way to give him updates or tell him much 1003 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 2: about me or my life. Basically she knew he never cared. 1004 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: He has had many children with different women since he 1005 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: was sixteen. Oh my god, okay, and a couple of 1006 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 2: the women, including my mom, never wanted anything to do 1007 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: with him. He's had criminal charges before while I was 1008 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: growing up, mostly petty theft and anything to do with 1009 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 2: Devil's lettuce, and never kept a job during my childhood. 1010 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 2: He probably stopped reaching out or sending me birthday or 1011 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 2: Christmas stuff when I was around six years old, and 1012 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: he started resurfacing when I was an adult a few 1013 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 2: times on Facebook. He had reached out to me and 1014 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 2: my mom a few times, and each time I would 1015 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,959 Speaker 2: block him and barely read what he had to say. 1016 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 2: The most recent attempt before this incident was when he 1017 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: messaged me about three or four years ago on Father's 1018 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 2: Day asking to get to know and me Me, and 1019 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: I blocked him. My mom thought maybe his existing kids 1020 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 2: weren't getting along with him, so he was desperate and 1021 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: trying to reach out to the kid he hadn't met yet. 1022 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 2: He's always been a very self centered person. So let's 1023 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 2: get to what happened. I work in an office building 1024 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 2: on the top floor. One day, I had an air 1025 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 2: pod in my ear and it fell out and went 1026 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 2: down the elevator shaft. Ouch that that's tough, oh man. 1027 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 2: I knew we had building managers and asked the receptionist 1028 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 2: if he could go to the basement and find it 1029 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 2: for me, since I had just gotten them for Christmas 1030 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: from my actual dad who was there for me growing up. 1031 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 3: He did. 1032 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 2: I asked what his name was and thanked him. It's 1033 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 2: a very common. M name Marty, is that call me Supreme? 1034 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 4: That's I was seeking. 1035 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 2: Mike. 1036 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 4: Mike. 1037 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: That's a pretty color man. Drake, Michael Wheeler. There's like 1038 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: no night there. 1039 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 2: At one point in my neighborhood. 1040 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: There were like nine mics. There's a lot of mics everywhere. 1041 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 2: I know a lot of Mikes. 1042 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Morpheus, that's pretty common. 1043 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 2: Fast forward a couple of months and my mom gets 1044 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 2: a message on Facebook from him because they commented on 1045 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 2: the same picture that was posted in a group sharing 1046 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 2: memories of a bar that doesn't exist anymore. The picture 1047 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: was one of their friends that passed away. Anyway. He 1048 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: DMed her asking if she could talk to me about 1049 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 2: meeting me. 1050 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 1: YadA, YadA. 1051 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 2: She said she would mention it, but reiterated that it's 1052 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 2: not likely I would be interested, which was correct typical 1053 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 2: biodad behavior. I had noticed this building manager and hanging 1054 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 2: around on my floor more after this AirPod incident, but 1055 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 2: didn't really think much of it. I asked the receptionist 1056 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 2: if he was new or something, and she confirmed that 1057 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 2: he took over for a previous building manager a few 1058 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 2: months ago. Okay, makes sense. Our office is very high security. 1059 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 2: We have to scan badges to get to the main 1060 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 2: office areas different floors, and even to get to specific 1061 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 2: floors on the elevator. I work in the legal field, 1062 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 2: so that matters because our service team is the only 1063 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 2: ones who can let anyone in if something needs repairs 1064 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 2: or painted, or for the shredding company to pick up 1065 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 2: the shredbins. Basically, if you don't work here, you don't 1066 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: have access to the office, just the lobby and comference rooms. 1067 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 2: There's security on the first floor too, for mail and 1068 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 2: food deliveries and to keep the parking ramps. Say, one day, 1069 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 2: around three o'clock on what I think was a Thursday, 1070 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 2: this building manager just shows up at my cubicle. No 1071 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 2: one was with him who would have let him in 1072 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 2: or supervised him. He had installed new carpet on the 1073 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 2: elevators that week, and I had said he did a 1074 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 2: good job. 1075 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 4: Thinking he was just a strange dude. 1076 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 2: Before I said that, I was feeling uncomfortable and thought 1077 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: I should just say something random. He kept saying, I 1078 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: think you'll want to talk to me. Don't you want 1079 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: to know who I am? We should get coffee sometime, 1080 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 2: we should talk outside. What it's weird, really creepy I'd 1081 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: be like, I'd like, I'm good, I'm getting a call. 1082 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's mom. 1083 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 2: I have to come back right now. 1084 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 4: Actually, I actually don't care to talk to you. 1085 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1086 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 4: I know who you are, the building manager, that's all 1087 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 4: I need to know. 1088 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: You say, Oh my, I'm getting a call. Oh the 1089 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: police are calling me. He is a weird guy here. 1090 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1091 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: I was getting really uncomfortable and confused, saying things like 1092 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, I would I, I don't know you. 1093 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 2: I was thinking he was trying to hit on me 1094 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 2: or something, until he pulls a picture out of his 1095 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 2: wallet of me from seventh grade. I was mortified. 1096 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: That is terrifying. 1097 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, my gosh, all the blood from my body left me. 1098 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 2: I felt sick, panicked, and trapped because obviously I was 1099 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 2: in a cubicle. Of course, I was flustered and said, oh, okay, yeah, 1100 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 2: I get it. Sure, we can get coffee after work sometime. 1101 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 2: How are your other kids? Aren't they parents? 1102 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 3: Now? 1103 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 2: Like, I was clearly at a loss for words and 1104 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: just wanted him to go away. My coworker was a 1105 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 2: cubicle away hearing all of this, and an attorney nearby 1106 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 2: was also aware of his strange presence. My coworker and 1107 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 2: I are close friends of about eight years, and fully 1108 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 2: aware of what was going on, she asked if I 1109 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 2: wanted her to call security over our private chat system. 1110 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 2: Luckily I wasn't just alone in the situation, but still 1111 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: very much traumatized every second of his presence. I don't 1112 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 2: know how the conversation ended or how I got him 1113 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 2: to leave. He was probably at my desk for about 1114 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,919 Speaker 2: thirty minutes, telling me that I'm pretty and other things 1115 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: I didn't want to hear. Oh, that's terrifying. Oh, I'm 1116 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 2: assuming he was just happy to have a kid that 1117 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 2: was doing well. I don't know my have siblings other 1118 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 2: than a couple of their names, and the two I 1119 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 2: know about have children, which makes me an estranged aunt. 1120 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 2: One is a male that's three years older than me, 1121 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 2: and the other is a female that's a year younger. 1122 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 2: I don't know why this man wants a relationship with 1123 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 2: me if I never once ever showed any interest in 1124 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: the twenty eight years of my existence up to that point. 1125 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 2: Who does this when they have been blocked, blown off, 1126 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 2: and told directly by me this does not benefit me, 1127 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 2: and I have no interest in your life. 1128 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 3: Or family. 1129 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 2: He's done nothing but pay mandatory child support and gave 1130 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 2: me maybe three or four gifts when I was younger 1131 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 2: than seven, then disappeared until I was in my twenties. 1132 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:46,879 Speaker 2: What does he want? 1133 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: Why is he here? 1134 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's so weird too that he's like your dad 1135 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 6: and he's still calling you. 1136 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 4: He's like continuously calling you pretty and stuff. 1137 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: The thing. 1138 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was like if it was my father 1139 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 2: and he was saying, oh, you're so pretty, sure, like yeah, 1140 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 2: that's normal attraction for a guy you don't know who 1141 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 2: is your father, but like you don't know him is 1142 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 2: going up to you, I mean like you're so pretty. 1143 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, in like for thirty minutes. 1144 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all he says, Yeah, right, you're so pretty. 1145 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1146 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:14,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1147 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 2: No, I've been an experience like that where I was 1148 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 2: in like a lift in this rain. Yeah. The glyft 1149 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 2: driver was like really, it was like one in the morning, 1150 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,280 Speaker 2: you're so pretty? Years how you terrifying? 1151 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 4: It's not a fun experience. 1152 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: Oh god, my mom, I'm uggly, muggly, muggly and ugly. 1153 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 2: Now, I was eighteen at times, so I didn't have, God, 1154 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 2: I didn't have Dakoda level confidence. 1155 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: Oh Man's struggling. 1156 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom probably sent him pictures or something growing up, 1157 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 2: but probably by his own request, so that's how he 1158 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 2: had that picture of me from middle school. Probably put 1159 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 2: it in his wallet when he figured out who I 1160 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 2: was months ago when he went down the elevator for 1161 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: me and just watched me for months without saying anything. 1162 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: Las I went home after that, about an hour before 1163 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 2: I normally would, because I had to process what happened 1164 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 2: and was scared for my life. I know I sound dramatic, 1165 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 2: but this person is literally a stranger who has pursued 1166 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 2: me for years and had been given clear boundaries by 1167 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 2: me to never contact me. Well. The next day was Friday, 1168 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 2: and I was living in a twilight zone, scared that 1169 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 2: he was going to show up again, and talked with 1170 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 2: my coworker about what to do. She and I both 1171 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 2: don't have a relationship with our biodads, so she understood. 1172 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 2: I decided I would talk to HR on Monday and 1173 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,399 Speaker 2: see what I could do to never see him again. 1174 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 2: I told them he doesn't need to lose his job 1175 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 2: over it, but I felt my safety was at stake 1176 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: and that my space had been violated. She would have 1177 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 2: to talk to his company since he's not one of 1178 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 2: our employees but hired by the owner of the building. 1179 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 2: The update was that he would be immediately sent to 1180 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 2: a location forty five minutes away and not allowed back 1181 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: to my office. He lasted three weeks at the new 1182 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: location and was fired. I felt bad. I wasn't trying 1183 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 2: to ruin his life or get revenge, just trying to 1184 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 2: keep my peace and what I had left of it. 1185 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 2: Since I almost quit my job over the incident. Well, 1186 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not your fault. It seems like he 1187 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 2: got fired for his effort reasons. Yeah he did. 1188 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't need. 1189 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 6: To be using a hole ruining your future. Excuse this, 1190 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 6: this stupid thing. You didn't ruin his future, he did. 1191 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 6: You just ensured your safety. And if he gets fired 1192 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 6: for that, he gets fired for that. There's a good 1193 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 6: reason I'd rather. 1194 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 2: He be fired than you be unsafe. Yeah, my boss 1195 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 2: had no idea about it, just the one attorney, my coworker, 1196 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 2: and HR new. Later I found out the receptionist was 1197 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 2: told about it because the old building manager came back, 1198 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 2: and they're both old people that clearly liked to gossip. 1199 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 2: That was not fun to find out. I think she's 1200 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 2: respectful enough that she only just informed me that she 1201 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 2: found out about what happened. Luckily she's retired now. But yeah, 1202 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 2: I'm still here at my job two years later and 1203 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,919 Speaker 2: wondering if I was the ale for giving him hope 1204 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 2: but lying and making him lose his job. I think 1205 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 2: he probably finally takes me seriously now. 1206 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 1: And PS. 1207 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 2: I have a very wonderful, kind, active father figure since 1208 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 2: I was a baby, who adopted me into his family 1209 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 2: when he met and married my mom. They divorced when 1210 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 2: I was two and stayed in my life without any 1211 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,919 Speaker 2: legal ties or responsibility for me, just out of pure 1212 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 2: love and interest in staying in my life as a father. 1213 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 2: I also have a stepdad who would harm anyone who 1214 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 2: does me wrong, including my bio dad. They grew up 1215 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 2: together and he has hated him since before I was 1216 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 2: born and before you met my mom. I'm not some 1217 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 2: fatherless damsel in distress. I'm just fulfilled in my life 1218 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 2: and it's his loss, not mine. Lots have loved you all, but. 1219 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to know your thoughts. 1220 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,280 Speaker 4: Wow, you have any Yeah, I think you're totally fine. 1221 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 2: You don't need to feel guilty at all for what 1222 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 2: you did don't worry about him. 1223 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 4: Honestly, he's he he. 1224 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 5: It's okay to be mean to people like this, all right, 1225 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 5: It's okay to ruin their life a little bit. 1226 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 2: Even though worry about them. 1227 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 5: You didn't ruin your life, but it's still it's okay. Yeah, 1228 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 5: just be mean, be aggressive disguises to their actions. Yes, exactly, 1229 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 5: be aggressive, be be aggressive. You're good, Yeah, you're good. 1230 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 5: I'm glad that you're safe now, me too. Whoops, Oh goodness, 1231 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 5: glad that you're safe now. And I'm glad that you 1232 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 5: have people protecting you around you. 1233 00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 4: Me too. 1234 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1235 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story and the end 1236 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 2: of this episode. Yep. So if you love us, make 1237 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 2: sure to subscribe. We love you and see you tomorrow.