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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and

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<v Speaker 1>Getty and no Hee Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh what do we got coming up later this hour?

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty good mom dummy for mom dummies. Plus Judge

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<v Speaker 3>Larry are a good friend of the Armstrong and Getty show,

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the Idaho Monsters sentencing, hearing the victim impact

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<v Speaker 3>statements and the answered questions why are they unanswered?

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us? Okay, hold me on.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to screen capture something that the top app

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<v Speaker 3>on the app store now is something new that I'd

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<v Speaker 3>never heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if the show is being executed, it's still being formed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fascinating that to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Here are two sets of statistics that are out that

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<v Speaker 3>are interesting We won't dwell on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>The US fertility rate slumped to a new low last year.

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers are just out unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States was once among only a few developed

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<v Speaker 3>countries where the rate ensured that we were having enough

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<v Speaker 3>kids to like, you know, continue as the society, which

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<v Speaker 3>is about two point one kids per woman. Where now

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<v Speaker 3>we dipped below that. We're now way below at new low.

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<v Speaker 3>One point six kids per woman is our new uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we are now, We're now what we used to

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<v Speaker 3>look at with South Korea or various countries and.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, oh my god, they are doomed. That's not us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just going to say, we're now South Korea with

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<v Speaker 3>better baseball teams.

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<v Speaker 1>In the sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, when Joe and I were born, it

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<v Speaker 3>was about three point five.

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<v Speaker 1>Now one point six.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that is a major change in the structure of society,

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<v Speaker 3>like major You can't even overstate how big deal that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for them, for the way people you know, put

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<v Speaker 3>together their lives, spend their money.

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<v Speaker 1>The things that you care.

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<v Speaker 3>About, right, politics are waves, demographics are the tide as

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<v Speaker 3>they say. It strikes me that my little joke about

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<v Speaker 3>baseball was really really appropriate because a lot of our

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<v Speaker 3>great baseball players are immigrants. And that is how the

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<v Speaker 3>United States population is not only stable but growing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's entirely immigration.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's because that's the only way if you assume

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<v Speaker 3>we must have economic growth, which appears to be the

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<v Speaker 3>assumption of the powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got to do it through immigration.

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<v Speaker 3>In countries like Japan that are extremely uncomfortable with immigration,

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<v Speaker 3>are really.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the expert, Well, they're doing poorly.

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<v Speaker 3>One more stat on this before I move on to

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<v Speaker 3>the other stuff. Birth rates are declining for women in

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<v Speaker 3>all age groups. So it's just across the board, people

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<v Speaker 3>ain't having kids. As you say all the time, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think you can say this enough because it's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>If this were happening to any other beast, we'd be

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<v Speaker 3>highly concerned and universal wills.

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<v Speaker 1>Science would be fixated on it. Yeah, if it were the.

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<v Speaker 3>Vole or some sort of bird or whatever they just

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<v Speaker 3>stopped reproducing, we'd think.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy crap, that's got to be bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Why any animal would just all of a sudden stop reproducing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be horrible. We need to figure this out.

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<v Speaker 3>But for humans, we're just like, Eh, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>on TV and TikTok and what you know anyway, and

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<v Speaker 3>having kids just kind of bange the ass.

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand this mating season.

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<v Speaker 3>And we observed that the males were playing video games

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<v Speaker 3>and stoned and watching pornography of antelopes breeding, while the

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<v Speaker 3>women were screaming angrily in the streets about antelope rites

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<v Speaker 3>or how about the male buffalo can no longer get

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<v Speaker 3>an erection.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the problem for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>While in the female flows out of her f and

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<v Speaker 3>mind right, which we hear from our young male correspondence

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<v Speaker 3>semi frequently. Dude, you have no idea how crazy it

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<v Speaker 3>is out here. You talk to a girl for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>minutes and it's like, holy cow, it's Jay Guavera's daughter. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who's explaining to me the other day about dating

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<v Speaker 3>on one of your online websites. And that's where sixty

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<v Speaker 3>percent of people meet now in the modern world. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they were discussing bumble, the percentage of women who

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<v Speaker 3>have pronouns in their little the very top line bio

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<v Speaker 3>where you have like the most basic stuff have their

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<v Speaker 3>pronouns in there, and how it's just you know, For

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<v Speaker 3>some people that's an automatic no, so you just go

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<v Speaker 3>through no, no, no, no, It doesn't matter what else

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<v Speaker 3>is on there if you got pronouns in there, so

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<v Speaker 3>there you go. Yeah, I got through third grade, so

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<v Speaker 3>I know which pronouns to use for you, so I

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<v Speaker 3>don't need your help.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an indicator of a lot more that probably comes

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<v Speaker 3>with the pronoun package. Oh I know that. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's probably probably comes with being ry ry had the

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<v Speaker 3>list of things that come with that package would be

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. It's a pretty damn good indicator, as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's like really helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe no, you're one of those I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe not though it could It could be a I

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<v Speaker 3>just thought you were supposed to do this, so I did.

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<v Speaker 3>And it doesn't really include a deep belief in that

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<v Speaker 3>sort of thing, but it might, and it say.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it worth taking the chance?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would say the lads applying those waters these

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<v Speaker 3>days have decided to use that as an indicator, so

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<v Speaker 3>they would know better than me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, So I wanted to get to this. This is

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<v Speaker 3>so you can feel superior or inferior. To others, which

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<v Speaker 3>is really, you know what a great hobby that is. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Fox Newpoll Newspole highly respected polling organization. Percentage of people

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<v Speaker 3>rating their personal financial situation is excellent or good. So

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<v Speaker 3>think for yourself. Do you feel like your financial situation

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<v Speaker 3>is excellent or good? I feel like it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>interesting that the highest number they ever had, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many years they've been asking this question,

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<v Speaker 3>probably not that long, but the highest number was June

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<v Speaker 3>of two thousand and four, right before the crash, sixty

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<v Speaker 3>two percent of Americans described their personal financial situation is

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<v Speaker 3>excellent or good, almost two thirds.

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<v Speaker 1>That is something, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm casting my memory back to those days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The low had been.

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<v Speaker 3>The low came almost exactly twenty years later, in May

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty twenty three, thirty four percent. So that have

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<v Speaker 3>been coming out of COVID all the inflation everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, right, yeah, thirty four percent, so half as

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<v Speaker 3>many people saying excellent are good.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in May of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>You may recall economist Joe Getty saying at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>if inflation is high, nothing else matters. Yeah, we've crawled

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<v Speaker 3>out of that to a certain extent, not a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>The most recent numbers are from March of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>It must take a while to compile these. At thirty

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<v Speaker 3>nine percent, thirty nine percent of people say good or excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not very high, not even good. You don't even

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<v Speaker 3>consider your personal financial situation good. That's not that's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>In the markets, and many Americans are invested, whether through

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<v Speaker 3>four to one k's or whatever, in the markets. The

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<v Speaker 3>markets are insanely high right now, records every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what did you have a You know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>all an.

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<v Speaker 3>Emotion, is not all, but a lot of It's an

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<v Speaker 3>emotional reaction as opposed to a specific nuts and boat.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you think specific documented if you sat down with

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<v Speaker 3>your numbers, you would say I'm behind or a head

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't an emotional feeling. So why do you think it's

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<v Speaker 1>so low currently?

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<v Speaker 3>Uncertainty? I just think there's so much uncertainty in the air,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's the tariffs or the world seems nuts. That

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<v Speaker 3>makes me feel less secure. Uh yeah, yeah, just in general.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the question they ought to ask. Does the world

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<v Speaker 3>seem nuts too? That would be a great poll. Yeah, God,

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<v Speaker 3>if the nuts ratio is or the nuts what we

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<v Speaker 3>referred to as the nuts curve, if it reaches a

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<v Speaker 3>certain point, I think you have to interpret virtually every

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<v Speaker 3>number through the nuts filter. We have discovered something we

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<v Speaker 3>need to put a name on. This is so clearly true.

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<v Speaker 3>All polls are downstream of the nuts question. Does the

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<v Speaker 3>world seem nuts to you right now? And I'll bet

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<v Speaker 3>it's I'll bet it's in the eighties. Maybe ninety percent

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<v Speaker 3>of people would say yes, all for different reasons, some

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<v Speaker 3>because this is momentous. We have actually come up with

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<v Speaker 3>an idea that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got to get to somebody. We've got to

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<v Speaker 1>trademark this.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to get some PhDs involved in grafting the

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<v Speaker 3>question and the analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>Any PhDs, but oh, just for the technical stime, I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is absolutely true. It explains all the other

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<v Speaker 3>numbers that sometimes you're like, why is that number that?

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<v Speaker 3>It's because ninety percent of people think that the world

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<v Speaker 3>is nuts right now, which might actually be pretty accurate. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>some people thinking because of Trump. Some people think because

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<v Speaker 3>of the forces aligned against Trump. Some people think because

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<v Speaker 3>maybe me too. Many people are focused on Trump or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever reason the world is nuts right now? How about

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<v Speaker 3>the sociological stuff though, all of a sudden, I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to declare that that six foot four inch person right

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<v Speaker 3>there with an intact penis and testicles is a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I'm ordered to say that at fear.

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<v Speaker 3>Of losing my job in some quadrants of society, that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't walk out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a situation like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are folks who listening right now who have

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<v Speaker 3>been in that situation. They have to take the knee,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to declare, yes, that's a woman, or

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<v Speaker 3>their careers derailed.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Away from a scenario like that, And then saying, on

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<v Speaker 3>the other hand, and my finances are great and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>feeling good about everything. No, it's profoundly disturbing, which factors

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<v Speaker 3>into the nutscrap Sure where the media landscape or the

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<v Speaker 3>couple of wars is going on, or the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>we now recognize China as such an enemy, or all

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<v Speaker 3>these different things factor into the you feel like the

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<v Speaker 3>world is nuts. So how about progressives turning criminals loose

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just say it one more time and then we can, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>we can take a break and get to your mom

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<v Speaker 3>dummy for mum dummies.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're contract Jack. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>As recently as two thousand and four, two thirds of

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<v Speaker 3>Americans said their personal financial situations excellent are good? Now

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<v Speaker 3>it's thirty nine percent. Your politics coming out of that

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<v Speaker 3>will be powerful, no doubt about it. Here's our text

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<v Speaker 3>line if you want to comment on any of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Four one five two nine five KFTC. God doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>me to sleep a text I got from my son

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<v Speaker 3>as I was just about to drift off to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he texted.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, hope you're not asleep yet, Dad, And it all

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<v Speaker 3>unfolded from there and it was many hours before I

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<v Speaker 3>laid back down in bed. More on that later coming up,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll talk to Judge Larry Goodman about the sentencing hearing

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<v Speaker 3>of the sub human scum in Idaho. But first, it's Mom,

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<v Speaker 3>Dammy from mum Dummies. I feel like you're too I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you're too proud of this. I am enjoying

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<v Speaker 3>it a little bit. Yes, I found this so interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's some economic analysis by a fellow by the name

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<v Speaker 3>of Ryan Salaam. But one of the most important things

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<v Speaker 3>to understand about Momdami, the thirty three year old socialist

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<v Speaker 3>who stunned the political establishment blah blah blah Democratic mayoral

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<v Speaker 3>New York blah blah blah, is he has spent his

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<v Speaker 3>young adult life much worse off than his parents. He

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<v Speaker 3>knows the sting of having grown up in bourgeois comfort

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<v Speaker 3>only to find himself scrambling to pay the rent in

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<v Speaker 3>a less fashionable neighborhood. That experience is a major reason

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<v Speaker 3>why he's emerged as the darling of the millennial Left,

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<v Speaker 3>a movement defined by its sense of downward mobility.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, was it a.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact that he didn't have a job the reason he

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<v Speaker 3>was struggling? Because I haven't heard him by it having

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<v Speaker 3>a job.

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<v Speaker 1>Really.

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<v Speaker 3>So, his dad was a tenured professor is at Columbia

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<v Speaker 3>University and a prominent left wing intellectual. And his mom

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<v Speaker 3>was a renowned Indian filmmaker Indian or similar, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>her Her directorial debut was Salam Bombay Exclamation Points was

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<v Speaker 3>released to global acclaim when she was thirty one years old.

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<v Speaker 1>So she is a monster talent in that you know

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<v Speaker 1>area of cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>But if mom's an artist and dad's a Columbia professor,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna end up with a certain kind of kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no kidding, But anyway, that whole well, he's less successful

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<v Speaker 3>than his parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore not too that.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like an opinion, but this is the interesting

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<v Speaker 3>port a part. Drawing on decades of IRS data, researchers

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<v Speaker 3>at Opportunity Insights and Economic Policy Institute found that among

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<v Speaker 3>Americans born in nineteen forty, ninety two percent earned more

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<v Speaker 3>than their parents at age thirty. Wow, just for information everything,

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<v Speaker 3>that is ninety two percent. For the I was born

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty four, only fifty percent did half, and

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<v Speaker 3>that decline has political consequences. Half seems pretty good to me.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can't expect that forever, can you? Well, if

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<v Speaker 3>you've come from you know, three four consecutive generations, where yes,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely you can. Sociologically that's a huge change. But shift

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<v Speaker 3>the data a little more data before we get to analysis.

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<v Speaker 3>Researchers at this economics lab found a strong correlation between

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<v Speaker 3>perceiving yourself to be less well off than your parents,

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<v Speaker 3>and zero sum thinking, or the belief that gains for

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<v Speaker 3>some people come at the expense of others. Oh right,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a profoundness understanding of how economies work.

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<v Speaker 1>And a good way to end up miserable the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>And socialist or communist, which more guarantee you're miserable for

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, no kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Roughly forty percent of the nation's seventy two million millennials,

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<v Speaker 3>that's folks born between eighty one to ninety six, live

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<v Speaker 3>in high cost, hyper competitive metropolitan areas where milestones such

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<v Speaker 3>as owning a home or paying off student loan debt

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<v Speaker 3>can loom as distant dreams, so they really perceive themselves

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<v Speaker 3>to be worse off than their parents, who talked about

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<v Speaker 3>buying their first house at twenty seven or whatever. Between

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<v Speaker 3>millennials who are worse off than their parents and those

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<v Speaker 3>who believe they're worse off and those who live in

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<v Speaker 3>dysfunctional blue state metros or house hunting can feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the Hunger Games. America has a critical mass of people

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<v Speaker 3>whose expectations of intergenerational progress have gone sour, and therefore

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<v Speaker 3>they think it's a zero sum game, and if Mamdani

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<v Speaker 3>promises he's gonna take from them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like good, because that's the only way I can

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<v Speaker 1>get ahead. I found that really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, yeah, the mindset of if I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>much at somebody else's fault is God again talk about

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<v Speaker 3>dooming yourself to misery for the rest of your life,

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<v Speaker 3>right extension that the only way that I can gain

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<v Speaker 3>is if somebody else loses. And then the other part

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<v Speaker 3>of if you have very successful parents or your dad

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<v Speaker 3>successful or whatever, do you have to surpass them. If

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<v Speaker 3>you don't surpass them, you've failed Somehow that seems unrealistic. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you're arguing with human psychology. I think you might be right,

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<v Speaker 3>and people would be wise to adopt that point of view,

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, that's just not the way people are.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple more stories that we don't even have time for.

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<v Speaker 3>But AOC and Mamdani and the like are raking in

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<v Speaker 3>cash as the rest of the party flounders. The radical

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<v Speaker 3>left is where the money is right now in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of fundraising, which is the only reason politicians get up

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning. Yeah, well, I got some easy analysis

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<v Speaker 3>of that. I think we'll get to later. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the final thing that I really wanted to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>Socialists are on Mumdanni proposed as government owned supermarkets for

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<v Speaker 3>New York City, and the city has tried this and

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<v Speaker 3>it is flopped. It is a miserable failure. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>believe Kansas City tried it. I want to hear more

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<v Speaker 3>about that. I got it for you anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we got a lot of really good stuff today.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how that happened, but I'm stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty. I made eye contact with him and

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<v Speaker 1>he was enraged. He was just enraged. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mission accomplished. You know we can move on now. He

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<v Speaker 1>said what we needed to say.

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<v Speaker 4>A faceless coward reached the tranquility of six beautiful young

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<v Speaker 4>people and senselessly slaughtered them, four of them. The person

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<v Speaker 4>that slithered through that sliding glass door at one one

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<v Speaker 4>two two King Road now stands before the world, and

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<v Speaker 4>this court unmasked.

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<v Speaker 1>No parent should ever have to bury your child.

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<v Speaker 4>In my view, the time has now calmed to in

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<v Speaker 4>mister Colberger's fifteen minutes of fame.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the judge in the hearing.

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<v Speaker 3>The sentencing hearing yesterday from the scumbag up in Idaho,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was a dad before that, So yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>judge could barely get through that screed without breaking down.

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<v Speaker 3>The crime's so horrific and needless and idiotic. To discuss

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<v Speaker 3>the hearing in several different ways, we're joined by Larry Goodman,

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<v Speaker 3>retired judge for the Superior Court in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Larry, it's always great to talk to you. How are you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, Yeah, thanks for being here. So any general

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<v Speaker 3>impressions from the hearing? What's it like to be in

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<v Speaker 3>a courtroom with a monster like that? What's it like

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<v Speaker 3>for the families to finally speak their piece?

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<v Speaker 1>Any thoughts?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's always emotional. Sometimes there's not a dry eye

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<v Speaker 5>in the house. Judges had certain ways to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 5>I used to keep a bunch of pictures on my

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<v Speaker 5>bench that I could look at to try to get

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<v Speaker 5>out of the emotions. But it's it's tough because you're

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<v Speaker 5>in there with pure evil and generally people like this guy.

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<v Speaker 5>They have we used to call shark eyes. There's no spirit,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no soul, and you know, they can say things

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<v Speaker 5>to him and they may think that they're impacting him,

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<v Speaker 5>but people like Picker then or sociopaths, uh, they're incapable

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<v Speaker 5>of remorse. And it's so it makes it's good catharsis

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<v Speaker 5>for the family members to speak, but it's it's just

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<v Speaker 5>tough for everybody that's in that room.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got some questions about that, but before we do,

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<v Speaker 3>I think listeners probably had the same question, I do

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<v Speaker 3>what do you mean by you had pictures sitting there

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<v Speaker 3>in the courtroom you would look at to try to

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<v Speaker 3>get over your emotionally.

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<v Speaker 5>I would have family pictures. I would have pictures of Katie,

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<v Speaker 5>my wife, places we've been, and I kept them on

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<v Speaker 5>my bladder on my bench. And uh, because most of

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<v Speaker 5>the cases I did were homicide cases and a fair

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<v Speaker 5>amount of death penalty cases. And sometimes you just need

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<v Speaker 5>to go to your what I guess to call your

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<v Speaker 5>happy space where you're still listening. You're still there, but

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<v Speaker 5>you need some emotional anchor to kind of hang on to.

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<v Speaker 3>You're dealing with this stuff that's interesting because it's so

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 3>It was cathartic for the families, no doubt, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>anybody who is horrified by the crimes, enjoyed hearing the

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<v Speaker 3>sub human scumbags lectured, and the rest of it. But

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<v Speaker 3>I know we corresponded last night and you had some

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<v Speaker 3>you're kind of dissatisfied with how some of this played out.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, first of all, I wrote notes when it happened.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was outrageous the way that this plea bargain

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<v Speaker 5>went down. I mean, when you deal a case of

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<v Speaker 5>this magnitude and you're the prosecutor, you call each family

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<v Speaker 5>member into the office, or you arrange a place to

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<v Speaker 5>meet with them, and you sit down with them and

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<v Speaker 5>you explain to them in detail why you're taking a

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<v Speaker 5>four victim homicide case it's a death penalty case, and

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<v Speaker 5>pulling the death penalty off the table. And if you

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<v Speaker 5>need to, you and you go talk to the judge

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<v Speaker 5>and explain to the judge why you're doing it, and

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<v Speaker 5>you enlist the judge to be part of that meeting

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<v Speaker 5>with the defense attorney's approval, of course, to explain to

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<v Speaker 5>this family, each family member, why you're doing this, because

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<v Speaker 5>this is like a monumental decision to make, and to

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<v Speaker 5>just send them a notice saying that you've made that decision.

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<v Speaker 5>Not that they necessarily have detoil power, but they certainly

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<v Speaker 5>have a right to express their pleasure or displeasure in

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<v Speaker 5>the decision making process.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, so they are indeed part of the team that

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<v Speaker 3>ought to at least have input on making that decision.

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<v Speaker 5>Right. I mean, by the way, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>seek the death penalty for the guy that killed your daughter.

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<v Speaker 5>In the statement, I mean, why tell me why and

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<v Speaker 5>let them vent them Let them start the cathartic process

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<v Speaker 5>by venting their displeasure with that decision. But they need

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<v Speaker 5>to be included from the very get go as to

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<v Speaker 5>why you and you need to tell them why is

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<v Speaker 5>there a weakness in the case that we're concerned about.

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<v Speaker 5>Was there something that happened that the prime scene that

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<v Speaker 5>leads us to think that maybe when juror might lack

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<v Speaker 5>onto that. You know, they talk about, well, you waved

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<v Speaker 5>all appeals. There's no such thing as an appellate proof decision.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you can always say I am appealing because

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<v Speaker 5>the lawyer who gave me the advice to wave my

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<v Speaker 5>appeal was incompetent.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell on the road.

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<v Speaker 5>There's always that issue. So you need to have a

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<v Speaker 5>you need to have a reason. And then the second

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<v Speaker 5>part that was so disturbing is if you buy into

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<v Speaker 5>the plea bargain. Part of the plea bargain, if you

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<v Speaker 5>want us to take death off the table, then you

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<v Speaker 5>stand up in open court and tell us why you

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<v Speaker 5>did it, tell us where the murder weapon is, and

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<v Speaker 5>then we'll take the death penalty up. Almost every person

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<v Speaker 5>I heard talk about this yesterday talked about, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 5>never know why he did it. Well, you might have

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<v Speaker 5>been able to find out why he did it if

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<v Speaker 5>you made that part of the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Michael plays clip number seventy four. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>victim's sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is the murder weapon? The clothes you wore that night?

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<v Speaker 6>What were Kaylee's last words? If you're really smart, do

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 6>you think you'd be here right now? If you had

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 6>to take them in their sleep in the middle of

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 6>the night like a pedophile, Kaylee would have kicked your

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 6>mess Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>So can you even guess your honor why they wouldn't

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 3>have demanded that sort of those sort of answers. Was

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 3>it that they had a weak bargaining position, was it incompetence?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we don't know, but what's your theory.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't have the theory, and it's beyond I

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 5>don't understand why you have all the leverage. You've got

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 5>the death penalty. Now, granted people don't get executed for

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 5>years after that's imposed, and there are appeals, but you've

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 5>got that kind of leverage, and you've got to try

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 5>to use that leverage to find out even though he

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 5>pled and people are going to move on this family,

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 5>every family member is always going to wonder, why did

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 5>he kill my daughter, why did he kill my son?

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 5>And why did he do what he did? Where is

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 5>the murder weapon? What happened to the knife? And those

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 5>are things that people live with forever, and they had

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 5>an opportunity to make that part of the deal. He says, Well,

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to stand up and tell you why

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 5>I did it. He say, fine, then we're going to

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 5>seek the death penalty. I mean, it's a bargaining. I

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 5>hate to say it, but the art.

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Of the deal.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's what you do because now you have all

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 5>the leverages. A minute you take the death penalty off

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 5>the table, you've lost all your leverage. He has no

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 5>incentive whatsoever to ever tell you that the other thing

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 5>that's interesting, is they waive the pre sentence report. It's

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 5>to have him sit for an interview with a probation

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 5>officer and maybe they find out something why he did

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 5>it during that interview. But they both sides waived the

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 5>pre sentencing report. So I don't understand that either.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm surprised that these scumbag murderers care about the

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 3>death penalty that much. Do most of them want to

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 3>push really hard to stay alive. I mean, he's going

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 3>to live the next forty years in a cell alone.

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just don't get it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they're really you know, depending on the state, the

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 5>death penalty, the actual punishment is so far removed from

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 5>the prime sentencing that whatever effect it has on the

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 5>defendance is minimal. They used to be in California, where

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 5>at least they had death row and they were segregated,

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.680
<v Speaker 5>they had minimal privilege is and they've done away with that.

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.959
<v Speaker 5>So now they're scattered all throughout the prison system and

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 5>they get pretty much the same privileges as anybody else does.

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<v Speaker 5>So wow, and then they change the law too, I mean,

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 5>now and again you sent in somebody's death. And then

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.199
<v Speaker 5>they change the criteria or do something else and then

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden it's not death eligible.

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 3>But is your sense because you talked about the guy

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 3>having shark eyes and being a sociopath or psychopath or whatever,

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:27.159
<v Speaker 3>and that's what he looks like to me.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>But most of those people want to stay alive.

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 5>Though, I think so. I mean, there's a self preservation.

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 5>They're full of bravado when they're in the courtroom, and

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 5>I've had defendants stand up and say you can kill me,

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 5>but you can't kill my soul and all that kind

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 5>of stuff, And but I deep down inside, I think

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 5>that they're get a little bit of a pucker factor

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 5>when they actually think about being put to death.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, Judge Larry Goodman is on the line, retired judge

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 3>for the Superior Court and California, speaking of this sub

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 3>huban scumbag's future. What do you know about where he's

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 3>going to be held and what his life and quotes

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 3>is going to be?

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 5>Like, Well, I think it's he'll pretty I think he'll

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 5>probably spend a lot of time in segregation because I

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.959
<v Speaker 5>think there's probably a fair number of inmates that are

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 5>already serving life terms that would probably want to earn

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 5>some creds in the prison by killing him and or

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 5>beating him to a pulp four or five times. So

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 5>he's not going to have a pleasant stay, and he's

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 5>not going to be able to intermingle with a whole

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 5>lot of other inmates because what he did is kind

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 5>of breaks the rules for even being a criminal or

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 5>a murderer. So I know it won't be a pleasant stay,

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 5>but I think he'll spend most of the time by himself.

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's interesting just sociologically. If I get

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 3>into a beef with a guy over a drug territory

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.120
<v Speaker 3>or just a personal thing or whatever, and I on

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.479
<v Speaker 3>him down and I'm in prison for life, uh uh,

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 3>I have a very different status than somebody who sneaks

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 3>into a house a night and slaughters young people for

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 3>for giggles.

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.479
<v Speaker 5>Oh absolutely, I mean it sounds kind of weird, but

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 5>there are rules in criminals, in crime and in the

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 5>criminal element. So if you commit what anybody would call

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 5>it a generic murder over drug territory, or even a

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 5>robbery for that matter, you have a whole different status

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 5>in prison than if you're do what this guy did,

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 5>or if you're a pedophile or a child rapist, or

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 5>something like that. There's there's there are consequences in that

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 5>if you ever should uh accidentally end up in general population.

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 3>So I was wondered about you said there was a

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 3>cathartic experience for the family members to be able to,

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, say their peace to this loser.

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Is there any legal reason to do that?

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean if they opted not to do that, would

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 3>that would that hurt their hurt them in.

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Any way legally?

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 5>You mean the family members?

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the family members, they said, if I didn't want

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to do that.

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 5>No, they don't have to. I've done cases where the

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 5>family members choose not to, or maybe they assign one

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 5>family member to speak for the whole family because the

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 5>rest of them don't feel comfortable doing it or can't

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 5>do it. So, yeah, but there's no downside if they

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 5>choose not to do it, except maybe internally and emotional.

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't affect the sentencing any No.

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 5>No, in a deal like this, the sentence is already predetermined.

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's no there was no leeway for the

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 5>judge to do anything other than what he did because

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 5>that was part of the deal.

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Actually one of the families declined, they said, no,

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 3>we're through with us.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>It's this is the closure we need. So yeah, well, Judge, Larry,

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Larry.

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 5>Well, just being in the same room with this pos

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 5>is maybe more than people, you know, some family members

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 5>wanted to deal with, you know.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it would be very, very hard to contain my

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 3>natural animal urges. There's all kinds of different people to

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>have different emotions. I'd feel to a certain extent like

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm giving him what he wants that I'm upset just

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't even care enough about you to show up,

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>you loser, Judge, Larry Goodman, Judge, it's always great to

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 3>talk to you.

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for the insight.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate the time. Thanks so much. Guys, talk to you.

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>So you got it?

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Sounds good, sets though, there's a lot of interesting stuff there. Shark, guys,

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 3>that's the day he that's what he had. Man, who

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 3>knows what's going on in the head of a crazy

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 3>person like that. We'll never figure that out. I think

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 3>even a normal person that circumstance is going to shut

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 3>down emotionally.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, and he's clearly not a normal person, So.

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 3>No, I think honestly he might well be a sociopath, psychopath, whatever,

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 3>The one thing he is is mind bogglingly selfish, which

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 3>probably makes him an a sociopath to decide to see

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 3>if he could get away with something and it be

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 3>the slaughter of for human being. I mean, if you

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 3>want to see if you can get away with a

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>burglary because you're so damn clever, that's an idiotic idea.

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's alright.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 3>How about the pecking order thing though, I mean some

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 3>of it I get. But the so you robbed me

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 3>on the street and I ended up dying, that's justifiable

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 3>or okay as part of our world. But the sneak

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 3>into the house killing him is not. I mean I

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 3>don't find either one of them. Great, yeah, maybe we

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 3>can get into that down the road. Wow, that is

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 3>something else interesting stuff though, what a great guess.

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Stay here, armstrong Ngetti.

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Authorities in Australia arrested a man last week for allegedly

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>stealing fifty three right shoes from a shoe store. The

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>suspect was very cooperative and reportedly greeting the police saying,

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 2>you got me.

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>What he gave me away? A peg leg? Is that

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the jym I get it? He had a peg leg

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 1>as why? Wow? Ah, boy.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 3>So I been running on a deficiency of sleep, like

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 3>I have been doing most of my adult life, which

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 3>is probably going to cut my longevity by a decade

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 3>or more. I will drop dead from not getting into

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 3>But last night I was going to really really really

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 3>really really strive to get to bed early, and I

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.479
<v Speaker 3>had accomplished it. I am in bed. What time did

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I send my texts to my son? This text eight

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 3>twenty nine. I mean that's two hours before I usually

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 3>get to bed or more. I send my son. I

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 3>knew where Henry was, my thirteen year old. He is

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 3>in the house, and my sixteen year old's out and

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 3>about like sixteen year old. He's going to be sixteen soon.

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 3>So I text him. I said, I'm going to bed.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 3>He texts back in all caps, no, oh, I just

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 3>got the tallow Are you very stuck?

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>That is an electric dirt bike that he rides around.

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 3>I almost crashed him in deep ass mud. I texted back,

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you can get it out, he said, I've

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>been trying for thirty minutes and it's getting dark. So

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I laid there for a little bit and I thought, okay,

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 3>So I tried to figure out where he was he's

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 3>out in this field. It was completely dark. It was

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 3>very hard to find him. He was wearing only underwear

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 3>at this point because he was wearing some of his

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 3>really he's wearing some of his good jeans and good shoes.

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 3>And he was in so much money he'd taken off

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 3>his clothes to keep from ruining them. The motorcycle's completely buried,

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like just the top of the seat and

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 3>the handlebar is sticking out in this mud. My gosh, right,

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 3>and he'd been trying to pull it out, and it's

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 3>pitch dark, and we got a flashlight, and I'm, you know,

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 3>waiting for the cops to show up, because we're someplace

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 3>we probably shouldn't be anyway. Anyway, Science spend a lot

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 3>of time digging that thing out and pulling it out

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 3>and getting it loaded up in my truck, pushing it

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 3>like a half a mile and then getting a loaded

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 3>my truck. And then we went to car wash and

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 3>I washed it off. I washed him off. I hosed

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 3>him off with the car wash wand like a circus,

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 3>like a circuits ell of it in the car washing

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 3>at least, but there in his underwear. And uh, then

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.720
<v Speaker 3>I went to bed two and a half hours later,

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 3>and I was expecting to, but I did say to him,

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I said, he said, I can't believe this happened. This

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 3>is one of the worst situations I've ever got into.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 3>And I said, you know how many times I've done

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 3>something like this in my life?

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Roughly one hundred. I said, it's just a thing.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know what twodos for giving the kid

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 3>enough uh, you know, enough leash to get into trouble

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 3>and figure out how to get out of it and

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 3>the rest of it, because you know he will run

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 3>into panic inducing situations down the road and think.

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, this reminds me the whole motorcycle and the

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>mud thing. Right, If I can deal with that, I

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>can deal with this.

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 3>As I was getting it out of there, I thought,

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 3>how many times, Jack, have you done this sort of

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 3>thing in your life? Although I was telling him about

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 3>pre cell phone, when I got myself into messages like this,

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