1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: Getty and no Hee Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: Starbucks this week announced that it's Pumpkin Spice Latte. We'll 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: return on August twenty six, August. The only pumpkin spice 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: anyone wants in August is Pumpkins spice Catorade. 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: No kidding, That's what I thought when I heard that 8 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: you're bringing back. Okay, that's no summer flavor, you monsters? 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 3: Uh what do we got coming up later this hour? 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: It's pretty good mom dummy for mom dummies. Plus Judge 11 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: Larry are a good friend of the Armstrong and Getty show, 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: talking about the Idaho Monsters sentencing, hearing the victim impact 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: statements and the answered questions why are they unanswered? 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Stay with us? Okay, hold me on. 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 3: I got to screen capture something that the top app 16 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: on the app store now is something new that I'd 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: never heard of. 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: So we'll talk about. 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: Even if the show is being executed, it's still being formed. 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: This is fascinating that to you. 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: Here are two sets of statistics that are out that 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: are interesting We won't dwell on this one. 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: We've talked about it a lot. 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: The US fertility rate slumped to a new low last year. 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: The numbers are just out unbelievable. 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: The United States was once among only a few developed 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: countries where the rate ensured that we were having enough 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: kids to like, you know, continue as the society, which 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: is about two point one kids per woman. Where now 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: we dipped below that. We're now way below at new low. 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: One point six kids per woman is our new uh. 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: Where we are now, We're now what we used to 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: look at with South Korea or various countries and. 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: Think, oh my god, they are doomed. That's not us. 35 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: It's just going to say, we're now South Korea with 36 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: better baseball teams. 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: In the sixties. 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: By the way, when Joe and I were born, it 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: was about three point five. 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Now one point six. 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: Wow, that is a major change in the structure of society, 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: like major You can't even overstate how big deal that is. 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah for them, for the way people you know, put 44 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: together their lives, spend their money. 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: The things that you care. 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: About, right, politics are waves, demographics are the tide as 47 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: they say. It strikes me that my little joke about 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: baseball was really really appropriate because a lot of our 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: great baseball players are immigrants. And that is how the 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: United States population is not only stable but growing. 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: It's entirely immigration. 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: And that's because that's the only way if you assume 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: we must have economic growth, which appears to be the 54 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: assumption of the powerful. 55 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to do it through immigration. 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: In countries like Japan that are extremely uncomfortable with immigration, 57 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: are really. 58 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: What's the expert, Well, they're doing poorly. 59 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: One more stat on this before I move on to 60 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: the other stuff. Birth rates are declining for women in 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: all age groups. So it's just across the board, people 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: ain't having kids. As you say all the time, I 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: don't think you can say this enough because it's so interesting. 64 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: If this were happening to any other beast, we'd be 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: highly concerned and universal wills. 66 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: Science would be fixated on it. Yeah, if it were the. 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: Vole or some sort of bird or whatever they just 68 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: stopped reproducing, we'd think. 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Holy crap, that's got to be bad. 70 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: Why any animal would just all of a sudden stop reproducing. 71 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: It's got to be horrible. We need to figure this out. 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: But for humans, we're just like, Eh, there's a lot 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: on TV and TikTok and what you know anyway, and 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: having kids just kind of bange the ass. 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: So I understand this mating season. 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: And we observed that the males were playing video games 77 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: and stoned and watching pornography of antelopes breeding, while the 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: women were screaming angrily in the streets about antelope rites 79 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: or how about the male buffalo can no longer get 80 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 3: an erection. 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: It's the problem for a lot of people. 82 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: While in the female flows out of her f and 83 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: mind right, which we hear from our young male correspondence 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: semi frequently. Dude, you have no idea how crazy it 85 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: is out here. You talk to a girl for twenty 86 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: minutes and it's like, holy cow, it's Jay Guavera's daughter. Oh, 87 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: somebody who's explaining to me the other day about dating 88 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: on one of your online websites. And that's where sixty 89 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: percent of people meet now in the modern world. I 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: think they were discussing bumble, the percentage of women who 91 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: have pronouns in their little the very top line bio 92 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: where you have like the most basic stuff have their 93 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: pronouns in there, and how it's just you know, For 94 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: some people that's an automatic no, so you just go 95 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: through no, no, no, no, It doesn't matter what else 96 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: is on there if you got pronouns in there, so 97 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: there you go. Yeah, I got through third grade, so 98 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: I know which pronouns to use for you, so I 99 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: don't need your help. 100 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: Obviously, it's not. 101 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: It's an indicator of a lot more that probably comes 102 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: with the pronoun package. Oh I know that. You know, 103 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: it's probably probably comes with being ry ry had the 104 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: list of things that come with that package would be 105 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: a lot. It's a pretty damn good indicator, as you say, 106 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like really helpful. 107 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: Maybe no, you're one of those I don't know. I 108 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: was thinking about that. 109 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: Maybe not though it could It could be a I 110 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: just thought you were supposed to do this, so I did. 111 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: And it doesn't really include a deep belief in that 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: sort of thing, but it might, and it say. 113 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: Is it worth taking the chance? 114 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: Well, I would say the lads applying those waters these 115 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: days have decided to use that as an indicator, so 116 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: they would know better than me. 117 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 118 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: Uh, So I wanted to get to this. This is 119 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: so you can feel superior or inferior. To others, which 120 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: is really, you know what a great hobby that is. Yes, 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: Fox Newpoll Newspole highly respected polling organization. Percentage of people 122 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: rating their personal financial situation is excellent or good. So 123 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: think for yourself. Do you feel like your financial situation 124 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: is excellent or good? I feel like it's kind of 125 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: interesting that the highest number they ever had, and I 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: don't know how many years they've been asking this question, 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: probably not that long, but the highest number was June 128 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: of two thousand and four, right before the crash, sixty 129 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: two percent of Americans described their personal financial situation is 130 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: excellent or good, almost two thirds. 131 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: That is something, isn't it. 132 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm casting my memory back to those days. Yeah, 133 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: that's that's interesting. 134 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: The low had been. 135 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: The low came almost exactly twenty years later, in May 136 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty three, thirty four percent. So that have 137 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: been coming out of COVID all the inflation everything else. 138 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: Oh yes, right, yeah, thirty four percent, so half as 139 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: many people saying excellent are good. 140 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Then in May of twenty twenty three. 141 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: You may recall economist Joe Getty saying at the time, 142 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: if inflation is high, nothing else matters. Yeah, we've crawled 143 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: out of that to a certain extent, not a lot. 144 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: The most recent numbers are from March of twenty twenty five. 145 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: It must take a while to compile these. At thirty 146 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: nine percent, thirty nine percent of people say good or excellent. 147 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: That's not very high, not even good. You don't even 148 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: consider your personal financial situation good. That's not that's not good. 149 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: In the markets, and many Americans are invested, whether through 150 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: four to one k's or whatever, in the markets. The 151 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: markets are insanely high right now, records every day. 152 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you have a You know, this is 153 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: all an. 154 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: Emotion, is not all, but a lot of It's an 155 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: emotional reaction as opposed to a specific nuts and boat. 156 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: Don't you think specific documented if you sat down with 157 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: your numbers, you would say I'm behind or a head 158 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: or whatever. 159 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: Isn't an emotional feeling. So why do you think it's 160 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: so low currently? 161 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: Uncertainty? I just think there's so much uncertainty in the air, 162 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: whether it's the tariffs or the world seems nuts. That 163 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: makes me feel less secure. Uh yeah, yeah, just in general. 164 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: That's the question they ought to ask. Does the world 165 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: seem nuts too? That would be a great poll. Yeah, God, 166 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: if the nuts ratio is or the nuts what we 167 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: referred to as the nuts curve, if it reaches a 168 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: certain point, I think you have to interpret virtually every 169 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: number through the nuts filter. We have discovered something we 170 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: need to put a name on. This is so clearly true. 171 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: All polls are downstream of the nuts question. Does the 172 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: world seem nuts to you right now? And I'll bet 173 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: it's I'll bet it's in the eighties. Maybe ninety percent 174 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: of people would say yes, all for different reasons, some 175 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: because this is momentous. We have actually come up with 176 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: an idea that matters. 177 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get to somebody. We've got to 178 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: trademark this. 179 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: We need to get some PhDs involved in grafting the 180 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: question and the analysis. 181 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't want. 182 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 3: Any PhDs, but oh, just for the technical stime, I 183 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: think this is absolutely true. It explains all the other 184 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: numbers that sometimes you're like, why is that number that? 185 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: It's because ninety percent of people think that the world 186 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: is nuts right now, which might actually be pretty accurate. Again, 187 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: some people thinking because of Trump. Some people think because 188 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: of the forces aligned against Trump. Some people think because 189 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: maybe me too. Many people are focused on Trump or 190 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: whatever reason the world is nuts right now? How about 191 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: the sociological stuff though, all of a sudden, I'm supposed 192 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: to declare that that six foot four inch person right 193 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 3: there with an intact penis and testicles is a woman. 194 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm ordered to say that at fear. 195 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: Of losing my job in some quadrants of society, that 196 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: you don't walk out. 197 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: Of a situation like that. 198 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: And there are folks who listening right now who have 199 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 3: been in that situation. They have to take the knee, 200 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: and I have to declare, yes, that's a woman, or 201 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: their careers derailed. 202 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: You're not coming. 203 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: Away from a scenario like that, And then saying, on 204 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: the other hand, and my finances are great and I'm 205 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: feeling good about everything. No, it's profoundly disturbing, which factors 206 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: into the nutscrap Sure where the media landscape or the 207 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 3: couple of wars is going on, or the fact that 208 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: we now recognize China as such an enemy, or all 209 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: these different things factor into the you feel like the 210 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: world is nuts. So how about progressives turning criminals loose 211 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: from prisons because of some bizarro notion that threatens your security. 212 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 3: That's a little nuts and simply Save home security. 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Yes. 241 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: As recently as two thousand and four, two thirds of 242 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: Americans said their personal financial situations excellent are good? Now 243 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: it's thirty nine percent. Your politics coming out of that 244 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: will be powerful, no doubt about it. Here's our text 245 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: line if you want to comment on any of that. 246 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: Four one five two nine five KFTC. God doesn't want 247 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: me to sleep a text I got from my son 248 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: as I was just about to drift off to sleep. 249 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: Oh, he texted. 250 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: Me, hope you're not asleep yet, Dad, And it all 251 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: unfolded from there and it was many hours before I 252 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: laid back down in bed. More on that later coming up, 253 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: we'll talk to Judge Larry Goodman about the sentencing hearing 254 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: of the sub human scum in Idaho. But first, it's Mom, 255 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: Dammy from mum Dummies. I feel like you're too I 256 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: feel like you're too proud of this. I am enjoying 257 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 3: it a little bit. Yes, I found this so interesting. 258 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: It's some economic analysis by a fellow by the name 259 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: of Ryan Salaam. But one of the most important things 260 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 3: to understand about Momdami, the thirty three year old socialist 261 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: who stunned the political establishment blah blah blah Democratic mayoral 262 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: New York blah blah blah, is he has spent his 263 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: young adult life much worse off than his parents. He 264 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: knows the sting of having grown up in bourgeois comfort 265 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: only to find himself scrambling to pay the rent in 266 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: a less fashionable neighborhood. That experience is a major reason 267 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: why he's emerged as the darling of the millennial Left, 268 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: a movement defined by its sense of downward mobility. 269 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: Well, was it a. 270 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: Fact that he didn't have a job the reason he 271 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: was struggling? Because I haven't heard him by it having 272 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: a job. 273 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: Really. 274 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: So, his dad was a tenured professor is at Columbia 275 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: University and a prominent left wing intellectual. And his mom 276 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: was a renowned Indian filmmaker Indian or similar, I mean 277 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: her Her directorial debut was Salam Bombay Exclamation Points was 278 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: released to global acclaim when she was thirty one years old. 279 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: So she is a monster talent in that you know 280 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: area of cinema. 281 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: But if mom's an artist and dad's a Columbia professor, 282 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: you're gonna end up with a certain kind of kid. Yeah, 283 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: no kidding, But anyway, that whole well, he's less successful 284 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: than his parents. 285 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: Therefore not too that. 286 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: It sounds like an opinion, but this is the interesting 287 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: port a part. Drawing on decades of IRS data, researchers 288 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: at Opportunity Insights and Economic Policy Institute found that among 289 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: Americans born in nineteen forty, ninety two percent earned more 290 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: than their parents at age thirty. Wow, just for information everything, 291 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: that is ninety two percent. For the I was born 292 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty four, only fifty percent did half, and 293 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: that decline has political consequences. Half seems pretty good to me. 294 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: If you can't expect that forever, can you? Well, if 295 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: you've come from you know, three four consecutive generations, where yes, 296 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: absolutely you can. Sociologically that's a huge change. But shift 297 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: the data a little more data before we get to analysis. 298 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: Researchers at this economics lab found a strong correlation between 299 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: perceiving yourself to be less well off than your parents, 300 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: and zero sum thinking, or the belief that gains for 301 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: some people come at the expense of others. Oh right, 302 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: which is a profoundness understanding of how economies work. 303 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: And a good way to end up miserable the rest 304 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: of your life. 305 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: And socialist or communist, which more guarantee you're miserable for 306 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: the rest of your life. 307 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, no kidding. 308 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: Roughly forty percent of the nation's seventy two million millennials, 309 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: that's folks born between eighty one to ninety six, live 310 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: in high cost, hyper competitive metropolitan areas where milestones such 311 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: as owning a home or paying off student loan debt 312 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: can loom as distant dreams, so they really perceive themselves 313 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: to be worse off than their parents, who talked about 314 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: buying their first house at twenty seven or whatever. Between 315 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: millennials who are worse off than their parents and those 316 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: who believe they're worse off and those who live in 317 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: dysfunctional blue state metros or house hunting can feel like 318 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: the Hunger Games. America has a critical mass of people 319 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: whose expectations of intergenerational progress have gone sour, and therefore 320 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: they think it's a zero sum game, and if Mamdani 321 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: promises he's gonna take from them. 322 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: They're like good, because that's the only way I can 323 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: get ahead. I found that really interesting. 324 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, the mindset of if I don't have 325 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: much at somebody else's fault is God again talk about 326 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: dooming yourself to misery for the rest of your life, 327 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: right extension that the only way that I can gain 328 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: is if somebody else loses. And then the other part 329 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: of if you have very successful parents or your dad 330 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: successful or whatever, do you have to surpass them. If 331 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: you don't surpass them, you've failed Somehow that seems unrealistic. Well, 332 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: you're arguing with human psychology. I think you might be right, 333 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: and people would be wise to adopt that point of view, 334 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: But I mean, that's just not the way people are. 335 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: A couple more stories that we don't even have time for. 336 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: But AOC and Mamdani and the like are raking in 337 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 3: cash as the rest of the party flounders. The radical 338 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: left is where the money is right now in terms 339 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: of fundraising, which is the only reason politicians get up 340 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 3: in the morning. Yeah, well, I got some easy analysis 341 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: of that. I think we'll get to later. And then 342 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 3: the final thing that I really wanted to get to. 343 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 3: Socialists are on Mumdanni proposed as government owned supermarkets for 344 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 3: New York City, and the city has tried this and 345 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: it is flopped. It is a miserable failure. I can't 346 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: believe Kansas City tried it. I want to hear more 347 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: about that. I got it for you anytime. 348 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 349 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: Okay, we got a lot of really good stuff today. 350 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: I don't know how that happened, but I'm stick around. 351 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fantastic. 352 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. I made eye contact with him and 353 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: he was enraged. He was just enraged. So you know, 354 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: mission accomplished. You know we can move on now. He 355 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: said what we needed to say. 356 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: A faceless coward reached the tranquility of six beautiful young 357 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 4: people and senselessly slaughtered them, four of them. The person 358 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: that slithered through that sliding glass door at one one 359 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: two two King Road now stands before the world, and 360 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: this court unmasked. 361 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: No parent should ever have to bury your child. 362 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: In my view, the time has now calmed to in 363 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: mister Colberger's fifteen minutes of fame. 364 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: So that's the judge in the hearing. 365 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: The sentencing hearing yesterday from the scumbag up in Idaho, 366 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: and that was a dad before that, So yeah, the 367 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: judge could barely get through that screed without breaking down. 368 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 3: The crime's so horrific and needless and idiotic. To discuss 369 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: the hearing in several different ways, we're joined by Larry Goodman, 370 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: retired judge for the Superior Court in California. 371 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Larry, it's always great to talk to you. How are you. 372 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 5: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on. 373 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: Of course, Yeah, thanks for being here. So any general 374 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: impressions from the hearing? What's it like to be in 375 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: a courtroom with a monster like that? What's it like 376 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: for the families to finally speak their piece? 377 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: Any thoughts? 378 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 5: Well, it's always emotional. Sometimes there's not a dry eye 379 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 5: in the house. Judges had certain ways to deal with that. 380 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 5: I used to keep a bunch of pictures on my 381 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 5: bench that I could look at to try to get 382 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 5: out of the emotions. But it's it's tough because you're 383 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 5: in there with pure evil and generally people like this guy. 384 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 5: They have we used to call shark eyes. There's no spirit, 385 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 5: there's no soul, and you know, they can say things 386 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 5: to him and they may think that they're impacting him, 387 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 5: but people like Picker then or sociopaths, uh, they're incapable 388 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 5: of remorse. And it's so it makes it's good catharsis 389 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 5: for the family members to speak, but it's it's just 390 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 5: tough for everybody that's in that room. 391 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got some questions about that, but before we do, 392 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: I think listeners probably had the same question, I do 393 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: what do you mean by you had pictures sitting there 394 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: in the courtroom you would look at to try to 395 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: get over your emotionally. 396 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 5: I would have family pictures. I would have pictures of Katie, 397 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: my wife, places we've been, and I kept them on 398 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 5: my bladder on my bench. And uh, because most of 399 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: the cases I did were homicide cases and a fair 400 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 5: amount of death penalty cases. And sometimes you just need 401 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: to go to your what I guess to call your 402 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 5: happy space where you're still listening. You're still there, but 403 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 5: you need some emotional anchor to kind of hang on to. 404 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 3: You're dealing with this stuff that's interesting because it's so 405 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: incredibly heavy. 406 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So. 407 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: It was cathartic for the families, no doubt, And honestly, 408 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: anybody who is horrified by the crimes, enjoyed hearing the 409 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: sub human scumbags lectured, and the rest of it. But 410 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: I know we corresponded last night and you had some 411 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: you're kind of dissatisfied with how some of this played out. 412 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: Tell us about that. 413 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I wrote notes when it happened. 414 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 5: But it was outrageous the way that this plea bargain 415 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 5: went down. I mean, when you deal a case of 416 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 5: this magnitude and you're the prosecutor, you call each family 417 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 5: member into the office, or you arrange a place to 418 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 5: meet with them, and you sit down with them and 419 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 5: you explain to them in detail why you're taking a 420 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 5: four victim homicide case it's a death penalty case, and 421 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 5: pulling the death penalty off the table. And if you 422 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 5: need to, you and you go talk to the judge 423 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 5: and explain to the judge why you're doing it, and 424 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 5: you enlist the judge to be part of that meeting 425 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: with the defense attorney's approval, of course, to explain to 426 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 5: this family, each family member, why you're doing this, because 427 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: this is like a monumental decision to make, and to 428 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 5: just send them a notice saying that you've made that decision. 429 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 5: Not that they necessarily have detoil power, but they certainly 430 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 5: have a right to express their pleasure or displeasure in 431 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 5: the decision making process. 432 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: Interesting, so they are indeed part of the team that 433 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: ought to at least have input on making that decision. 434 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 5: Right. I mean, by the way, we're not going to 435 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 5: seek the death penalty for the guy that killed your daughter. 436 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 5: In the statement, I mean, why tell me why and 437 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 5: let them vent them Let them start the cathartic process 438 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 5: by venting their displeasure with that decision. But they need 439 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 5: to be included from the very get go as to 440 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 5: why you and you need to tell them why is 441 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 5: there a weakness in the case that we're concerned about. 442 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: Was there something that happened that the prime scene that 443 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 5: leads us to think that maybe when juror might lack 444 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 5: onto that. You know, they talk about, well, you waved 445 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 5: all appeals. There's no such thing as an appellate proof decision. 446 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 5: You know, you can always say I am appealing because 447 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 5: the lawyer who gave me the advice to wave my 448 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 5: appeal was incompetent. 449 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: So tell on the road. 450 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 5: There's always that issue. So you need to have a 451 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 5: you need to have a reason. And then the second 452 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 5: part that was so disturbing is if you buy into 453 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 5: the plea bargain. Part of the plea bargain, if you 454 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 5: want us to take death off the table, then you 455 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 5: stand up in open court and tell us why you 456 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 5: did it, tell us where the murder weapon is, and 457 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 5: then we'll take the death penalty up. Almost every person 458 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 5: I heard talk about this yesterday talked about, well, we'll 459 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 5: never know why he did it. Well, you might have 460 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 5: been able to find out why he did it if 461 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 5: you made that part of the deal. 462 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael plays clip number seventy four. One of the 463 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: victim's sisters. 464 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: Where is the murder weapon? The clothes you wore that night? 465 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 6: What were Kaylee's last words? If you're really smart, do 466 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 6: you think you'd be here right now? If you had 467 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 6: to take them in their sleep in the middle of 468 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 6: the night like a pedophile, Kaylee would have kicked your 469 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 6: mess Thank you, thank you. 470 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: So can you even guess your honor why they wouldn't 471 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: have demanded that sort of those sort of answers. Was 472 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 3: it that they had a weak bargaining position, was it incompetence? 473 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know, but what's your theory. 474 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 5: Well, I don't have the theory, and it's beyond I 475 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 5: don't understand why you have all the leverage. You've got 476 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: the death penalty. Now, granted people don't get executed for 477 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 5: years after that's imposed, and there are appeals, but you've 478 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 5: got that kind of leverage, and you've got to try 479 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 5: to use that leverage to find out even though he 480 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 5: pled and people are going to move on this family, 481 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 5: every family member is always going to wonder, why did 482 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: he kill my daughter, why did he kill my son? 483 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 5: And why did he do what he did? Where is 484 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 5: the murder weapon? What happened to the knife? And those 485 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 5: are things that people live with forever, and they had 486 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: an opportunity to make that part of the deal. He says, Well, 487 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: I'm not going to stand up and tell you why 488 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: I did it. He say, fine, then we're going to 489 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 5: seek the death penalty. I mean, it's a bargaining. I 490 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 5: hate to say it, but the art. 491 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: Of the deal. 492 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 5: But that's what you do because now you have all 493 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: the leverages. A minute you take the death penalty off 494 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: the table, you've lost all your leverage. He has no 495 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 5: incentive whatsoever to ever tell you that the other thing 496 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: that's interesting, is they waive the pre sentence report. It's 497 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 5: to have him sit for an interview with a probation 498 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 5: officer and maybe they find out something why he did 499 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 5: it during that interview. But they both sides waived the 500 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 5: pre sentencing report. So I don't understand that either. 501 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: So I'm surprised that these scumbag murderers care about the 502 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 3: death penalty that much. Do most of them want to 503 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: push really hard to stay alive. I mean, he's going 504 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 3: to live the next forty years in a cell alone. 505 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't get it. 506 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: Well, they're really you know, depending on the state, the 507 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 5: death penalty, the actual punishment is so far removed from 508 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: the prime sentencing that whatever effect it has on the 509 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 5: defendance is minimal. They used to be in California, where 510 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 5: at least they had death row and they were segregated, 511 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 5: they had minimal privilege is and they've done away with that. 512 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 5: So now they're scattered all throughout the prison system and 513 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 5: they get pretty much the same privileges as anybody else does. 514 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 5: So wow, and then they change the law too, I mean, 515 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 5: now and again you sent in somebody's death. And then 516 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 5: they change the criteria or do something else and then 517 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: all of a sudden it's not death eligible. 518 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: But is your sense because you talked about the guy 519 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: having shark eyes and being a sociopath or psychopath or whatever, 520 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 3: and that's what he looks like to me. 521 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: But most of those people want to stay alive. 522 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 5: Though, I think so. I mean, there's a self preservation. 523 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 5: They're full of bravado when they're in the courtroom, and 524 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 5: I've had defendants stand up and say you can kill me, 525 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 5: but you can't kill my soul and all that kind 526 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 5: of stuff, And but I deep down inside, I think 527 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 5: that they're get a little bit of a pucker factor 528 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 5: when they actually think about being put to death. 529 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: Sure, Judge Larry Goodman is on the line, retired judge 530 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: for the Superior Court and California, speaking of this sub 531 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: huban scumbag's future. What do you know about where he's 532 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: going to be held and what his life and quotes 533 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 3: is going to be? 534 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 5: Like, Well, I think it's he'll pretty I think he'll 535 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 5: probably spend a lot of time in segregation because I 536 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 5: think there's probably a fair number of inmates that are 537 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 5: already serving life terms that would probably want to earn 538 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 5: some creds in the prison by killing him and or 539 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 5: beating him to a pulp four or five times. So 540 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: he's not going to have a pleasant stay, and he's 541 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 5: not going to be able to intermingle with a whole 542 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 5: lot of other inmates because what he did is kind 543 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 5: of breaks the rules for even being a criminal or 544 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 5: a murderer. So I know it won't be a pleasant stay, 545 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 5: but I think he'll spend most of the time by himself. 546 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: So I think that's interesting just sociologically. If I get 547 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: into a beef with a guy over a drug territory 548 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: or just a personal thing or whatever, and I on 549 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 3: him down and I'm in prison for life, uh uh, 550 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: I have a very different status than somebody who sneaks 551 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: into a house a night and slaughters young people for 552 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: for giggles. 553 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, I mean it sounds kind of weird, but 554 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 5: there are rules in criminals, in crime and in the 555 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 5: criminal element. So if you commit what anybody would call 556 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 5: it a generic murder over drug territory, or even a 557 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 5: robbery for that matter, you have a whole different status 558 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 5: in prison than if you're do what this guy did, 559 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 5: or if you're a pedophile or a child rapist, or 560 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 5: something like that. There's there's there are consequences in that 561 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: if you ever should uh accidentally end up in general population. 562 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: So I was wondered about you said there was a 563 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: cathartic experience for the family members to be able to, 564 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: you know, say their peace to this loser. 565 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: Is there any legal reason to do that? 566 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: I mean if they opted not to do that, would 567 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: that would that hurt their hurt them in. 568 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: Any way legally? 569 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 5: You mean the family members? 570 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the family members, they said, if I didn't want 571 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: to do that. 572 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: No, they don't have to. I've done cases where the 573 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 5: family members choose not to, or maybe they assign one 574 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: family member to speak for the whole family because the 575 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 5: rest of them don't feel comfortable doing it or can't 576 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 5: do it. So, yeah, but there's no downside if they 577 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 5: choose not to do it, except maybe internally and emotional. 578 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: It wouldn't affect the sentencing any No. 579 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 5: No, in a deal like this, the sentence is already predetermined. 580 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 5: I mean, there's no there was no leeway for the 581 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 5: judge to do anything other than what he did because 582 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 5: that was part of the deal. 583 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: Interesting. 584 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Actually one of the families declined, they said, no, 585 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: we're through with us. 586 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: It's this is the closure we need. So yeah, well, Judge, Larry, 587 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: go ahead, Larry. 588 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: Well, just being in the same room with this pos 589 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 5: is maybe more than people, you know, some family members 590 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 5: wanted to deal with, you know. 591 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be very, very hard to contain my 592 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: natural animal urges. There's all kinds of different people to 593 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: have different emotions. I'd feel to a certain extent like 594 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm giving him what he wants that I'm upset just 595 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: I don't even care enough about you to show up, 596 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: you loser, Judge, Larry Goodman, Judge, it's always great to 597 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: talk to you. 598 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the insight. 599 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 5: I appreciate the time. Thanks so much. Guys, talk to you. 600 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: So you got it? 601 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: Sounds good, sets though, there's a lot of interesting stuff there. Shark, guys, 602 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: that's the day he that's what he had. Man, who 603 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: knows what's going on in the head of a crazy 604 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: person like that. We'll never figure that out. I think 605 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: even a normal person that circumstance is going to shut 606 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: down emotionally. 607 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: Well, and he's clearly not a normal person, So. 608 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: No, I think honestly he might well be a sociopath, psychopath, whatever, 609 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: The one thing he is is mind bogglingly selfish, which 610 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: probably makes him an a sociopath to decide to see 611 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: if he could get away with something and it be 612 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: the slaughter of for human being. I mean, if you 613 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: want to see if you can get away with a 614 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: burglary because you're so damn clever, that's an idiotic idea. 615 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: But it's alright. 616 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: How about the pecking order thing though, I mean some 617 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: of it I get. But the so you robbed me 618 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: on the street and I ended up dying, that's justifiable 619 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: or okay as part of our world. But the sneak 620 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 3: into the house killing him is not. I mean I 621 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: don't find either one of them. Great, yeah, maybe we 622 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: can get into that down the road. Wow, that is 623 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: something else interesting stuff though, what a great guess. 624 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: Stay here, armstrong Ngetti. 625 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: Authorities in Australia arrested a man last week for allegedly 626 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: stealing fifty three right shoes from a shoe store. The 627 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: suspect was very cooperative and reportedly greeting the police saying, 628 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: you got me. 629 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: What he gave me away? A peg leg? Is that 630 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: the jym I get it? He had a peg leg 631 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: as why? Wow? Ah, boy. 632 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: So I been running on a deficiency of sleep, like 633 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: I have been doing most of my adult life, which 634 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: is probably going to cut my longevity by a decade 635 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: or more. I will drop dead from not getting into 636 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: But last night I was going to really really really 637 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: really really strive to get to bed early, and I 638 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 3: had accomplished it. I am in bed. What time did 639 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: I send my texts to my son? This text eight 640 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: twenty nine. I mean that's two hours before I usually 641 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: get to bed or more. I send my son. I 642 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 3: knew where Henry was, my thirteen year old. He is 643 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: in the house, and my sixteen year old's out and 644 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: about like sixteen year old. He's going to be sixteen soon. 645 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: So I text him. I said, I'm going to bed. 646 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: He texts back in all caps, no, oh, I just 647 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: got the tallow Are you very stuck? 648 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: That is an electric dirt bike that he rides around. 649 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 650 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: I almost crashed him in deep ass mud. I texted back, 651 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure you can get it out, he said, I've 652 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: been trying for thirty minutes and it's getting dark. So 653 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: I laid there for a little bit and I thought, okay, 654 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 3: So I tried to figure out where he was he's 655 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 3: out in this field. It was completely dark. It was 656 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: very hard to find him. He was wearing only underwear 657 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 3: at this point because he was wearing some of his 658 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: really he's wearing some of his good jeans and good shoes. 659 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 3: And he was in so much money he'd taken off 660 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: his clothes to keep from ruining them. The motorcycle's completely buried, 661 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: I mean, like just the top of the seat and 662 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: the handlebar is sticking out in this mud. My gosh, right, 663 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: and he'd been trying to pull it out, and it's 664 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: pitch dark, and we got a flashlight, and I'm, you know, 665 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: waiting for the cops to show up, because we're someplace 666 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: we probably shouldn't be anyway. Anyway, Science spend a lot 667 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 3: of time digging that thing out and pulling it out 668 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: and getting it loaded up in my truck, pushing it 669 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: like a half a mile and then getting a loaded 670 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: my truck. And then we went to car wash and 671 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: I washed it off. I washed him off. I hosed 672 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: him off with the car wash wand like a circus, 673 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: like a circuits ell of it in the car washing 674 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: at least, but there in his underwear. And uh, then 675 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 3: I went to bed two and a half hours later, 676 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: and I was expecting to, but I did say to him, 677 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: I said, he said, I can't believe this happened. This 678 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: is one of the worst situations I've ever got into. 679 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 3: And I said, you know how many times I've done 680 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: something like this in my life? 681 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: Roughly one hundred. I said, it's just a thing. 682 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what twodos for giving the kid 683 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 3: enough uh, you know, enough leash to get into trouble 684 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 3: and figure out how to get out of it and 685 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 3: the rest of it, because you know he will run 686 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: into panic inducing situations down the road and think. 687 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: You know, this reminds me the whole motorcycle and the 688 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: mud thing. Right, If I can deal with that, I 689 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: can deal with this. 690 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: As I was getting it out of there, I thought, 691 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 3: how many times, Jack, have you done this sort of 692 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 3: thing in your life? Although I was telling him about 693 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: pre cell phone, when I got myself into messages like this, 694 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: you're walking a long way because there was no getting 695 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 3: a hold of anybody. Yeah, I'm reminded of myself walking 696 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: a couple of miles on hockey skates with blood streaming 697 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: down my face after a similar incident. 698 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: Anyway, or come Next 699 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 3: Hour Gender Bending, Madness, dem On dem Violence Edition Armstrong 700 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: and Getty