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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys At now here are Bill Jones, Savannah,
Speaker 1: Hugh Mooler, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4: And it is ramsweek here on mix Shots inside the
Speaker 4: SWBC podcast studio, Bill Jones, Everson Walls, Savannah Humoler and
Speaker 4: the star of the show, Mickey Spagnola. Yes, and out
Speaker 4: on the practice field, I see football players Everson and
Speaker 4: Savannah without pads on today, but they have helmets. They
Speaker 4: do have helmets, so that is a form of a pad.
Speaker 3: Yes, it consists of pads.
Speaker 5: Which is more than they've done since the Saturday before Chargers.
Speaker 4: So basically, when you have a bye week now you
Speaker 4: have to have a ramp up period to get ready
Speaker 4: to practice.
Speaker 5: Right, No, there's no ramp up practice. They had yesterday off.
Speaker 4: I know, Well, so now we're ramping up today. We
Speaker 4: got to ramp up this.
Speaker 3: This is on Wednesday. What was this on Monday? Is
Speaker 3: that Monday?
Speaker 6: No, this is.
Speaker 4: Wednesday, Pice Thursday.
Speaker 6: Trying to be overly dramatic.
Speaker 4: Thursday is the heavy workday.
Speaker 7: Okay, guys. So before we get started on everything today,
Speaker 7: I come bearing some gifts. Oh so this morning, this
Speaker 7: morning I met Bob Lily. He was as on the plaza, uh,
Speaker 7: just doing some stuff for an event that they have
Speaker 7: coming in February. And they handed me these really awesome
Speaker 7: custom made carts. And so we have a Randy White,
Speaker 7: Bob Lily, Roger Strawbach, and Joe Green Green. So I'm
Speaker 7: going to give you your picks. Which one do we want?
Speaker 7: You each get what?
Speaker 6: Ever? Walls one?
Speaker 3: Give me the only black guy there, take the Manster,
Speaker 3: the Manster.
Speaker 4: There you go, and what's.
Speaker 7: Left we have Bob Williams.
Speaker 3: Roger. I'll take that, nice leftover, nice leftovers.
Speaker 4: When did you what you take?
Speaker 6: Roger?
Speaker 4: Course, Well that's and that's good because you had an
Speaker 4: interfacing with Bob that would go, which I did. It's
Speaker 4: been half a century ago ever since, you'll appreciate this,
Speaker 4: since I grew up here in Dallas. But my dad
Speaker 4: and I were at there was some event going on
Speaker 4: at Market Hall whatever, yes, okay, and yeah, and Bob
Speaker 4: Lily was there, and so he was he was appearing
Speaker 4: at something and my dad and I I was ten
Speaker 4: years old probably at the time, and we walked by
Speaker 4: him and uh that. Dad said, let's stop. And I
Speaker 4: wasn't into autographs at all, and I don't I don't
Speaker 4: think I got his autograph, but we did have an
Speaker 4: interfacing with mister cowboy Bob Lily. And so here we
Speaker 4: are a half century later and Savannah one of the
Speaker 4: greatest cowboys of all time.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you just stumbled up on them. Wow.
Speaker 4: And so it's fitting that you you get his trading card.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, very very cool. The I guess these are
Speaker 7: custom made the artist. He signed these. So thought I
Speaker 7: thought you guys would enjoy one.
Speaker 6: Thank you artist, cool artist.
Speaker 3: Give me a pound on that. There you go, thank
Speaker 3: you so much.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 3: She really did start salivating, like, Okay, I hope she's
Speaker 3: given out.
Speaker 4: You want to give pub to the artist. Not really
Speaker 4: a trading card, I said it a trading card, but
Speaker 4: it's a It's Scott Terrell, the founder and CEO of
Speaker 4: You University. All Star started as an artist and designer
Speaker 4: and now disrupts multi billion dollar industries. OK So, there
Speaker 4: you go.
Speaker 8: We have a rebel.
Speaker 3: He's a rebel.
Speaker 4: It's very good, really nice. I know that's the first
Speaker 4: time anyone's come bearing gifts.
Speaker 3: Well, well, a lot of people in my family went
Speaker 3: to U n T. And so.
Speaker 7: He's our guy.
Speaker 4: He was not going to be the first one selected
Speaker 4: unless reason for it being a Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I know.
Speaker 3: Hey, this is truly compromising. It's truly compromising. That's how
Speaker 3: much I love me, Joe Green. This is truly compromised
Speaker 3: because I hate the Stealers. Let's just be real about that.
Speaker 3: I hate the Steelers.
Speaker 4: Okay, So here we are back in the flow again. Mickey,
Speaker 4: you you seem to be very studious over something that
Speaker 4: you're prepared.
Speaker 3: He's missing all all your throws. Man.
Speaker 4: Savannah brings miss yeps for us today. And now what's
Speaker 4: Mickey going.
Speaker 6: To offer today?
Speaker 5: Rangers have to play the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 4: There you go, right now, you get to play the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 6: Play up absolutely what we both.
Speaker 3: Like reeling at one point, I mean both teams.
Speaker 4: Two years ago they were to set me up perfectly.
Speaker 4: The Arizona Diamondbacks two years ago one fifty two games
Speaker 4: and lost one hundred and ten games.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: The Rangers two years ago won sixty two games and
Speaker 4: lost one hundred games or they were sixty and one
Speaker 4: oh two. So we have two teams that Edward had
Speaker 4: one hundred lost seasons. Two years ago they were playing
Speaker 4: for the Baseball World Championship. Can that happen in the NFL?
Speaker 4: Could they? Let's put it this way, because the Carolina
Speaker 4: Panthers are playing the Houston Texans this week with Bryce
Speaker 4: Young versus c J. Stroud. That put it in perspective
Speaker 4: that would be like the Carolina Panthers in Houston Texans
Speaker 4: next year playing in the Super Bowl. Is that possible?
Speaker 3: I'm sure you could pick a team in the past
Speaker 3: that had a little bit more promise two years prior
Speaker 3: to them doing well. I don't know about going to
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, but they have many instances of teams
Speaker 3: that They's.
Speaker 4: A roller coaster nature of the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: How about three years ago with the Cowboys one in fifteen.
Speaker 4: Okay, not three years ago from now, but three years
Speaker 4: ago from.
Speaker 5: Yeah, removed in fifteen and then four fear going to
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, if you, if you, if we were to
Speaker 3: be accurate and go with the two years then they
Speaker 3: were they were played against.
Speaker 6: Detroit right in the player and.
Speaker 3: Lost to Detroit. Yeah, which is still a nice turnaround
Speaker 3: from one. It's not. It's not Super Bowl, but that's
Speaker 3: a nice turn.
Speaker 4: Two years ago. Two years ago would have been the
Speaker 4: game against Atlanta nineteen ninety right, Yeah, I guess Atlanta,
Speaker 4: babe started.
Speaker 3: Eighty nine fifteen till seven and nine to seven and
Speaker 3: one more.
Speaker 5: Or somebody lost one more, they would have gone to
Speaker 5: the playoffs at seven and nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, no, that's not a turnaround, no, But I
Speaker 3: think the true turnaround is is them being in the
Speaker 3: the Silver don't having the chance to go on go further.
Speaker 3: That's about as close as you're gonna get, based on
Speaker 3: you and.
Speaker 6: Then get that wiped out.
Speaker 5: Yeah by Eric Kramer.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to be out next week, the whole
Speaker 4: four days next week, So just let you know.
Speaker 6: And I'm going to be out one day next week.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, look at each other, like.
Speaker 3: What do you want to run this week? This bro?
Speaker 3: I got this conversations.
Speaker 4: I'm out on Monday World Series games one and two
Speaker 4: or Friday and Saturday here and then at Arizona next
Speaker 4: Monday Tuesday, and if the Rangers need a fifth game
Speaker 4: to to beat the Diamondbacks of Game five and on Wednesday,
Speaker 4: here you go.
Speaker 6: What network has the World Series?
Speaker 4: Fox?
Speaker 3: Fox?
Speaker 6: So you're going to go all the way out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and nobody's going to see any of our work
Speaker 4: because the game is on Fox, right.
Speaker 5: And he's got to wait twenty minutes before he can
Speaker 5: show any highlights.
Speaker 3: Yeah. When are you win?
Speaker 6: You out Monday?
Speaker 3: Monday? Okay, so I'll come prepared Monday.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 7: We'll carry it.
Speaker 3: Yes, we'll carry the shout.
Speaker 7: We're good to go.
Speaker 6: I like it. We might have to go. We might
Speaker 6: have to call Nate and Frisco.
Speaker 3: Now, but they will probably stop in anyway. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: likes stopping in when you guys.
Speaker 4: Are going, he sees an open seat in there.
Speaker 7: You're welcome to you are welcome.
Speaker 4: Then Frisk says he didn't want to be on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 4: Uh so catch us get us up to speed here
Speaker 4: on Mike McCarthy had a press conference this morning.
Speaker 6: I didn't hear it.
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, don't get us up to spin on that.
Speaker 7: Well, all I know is that he did say that
Speaker 7: they will be full for practice today. Everybody will do
Speaker 7: something on the field. So although they are not in
Speaker 7: paths as we talked about, so but they're still all
Speaker 7: out there full participation.
Speaker 5: Well, they didn't really have any injuries coming out of
Speaker 5: that Chargers game, right, and they had already put what
Speaker 5: three guys on injured reserve, so they don't count. They've
Speaker 5: got to miss three more games.
Speaker 3: Monkey's bail was probably fatigue as hell after the game.
Speaker 6: I guess Jani Thomas would have been the only.
Speaker 7: A couple of people brought up.
Speaker 5: And they he thought he would be able to practice, yes,
Speaker 5: full today. There you go, no injury excuses going forward.
Speaker 4: And yeah, because and to bring everybody up to speed
Speaker 4: on what happened prior to the last game. Vander esh
Speaker 4: and C. J. Goodwin replaced on I R. When we
Speaker 4: talked about the practice squad moves that were made this.
Speaker 6: Week, Hender shot too right, the Peyton.
Speaker 4: Hendershot too and and that was the other thing you
Speaker 4: talked about, Eric, And I've got to get the pronunciation
Speaker 4: correct on s A U B E R. Salbert Salbert.
Speaker 4: I don't know, could it be Salbert?
Speaker 3: Look it up.
Speaker 6: From Drake then it's salt.
Speaker 4: If he's from Iowa, Yeah, could be Sobert. Anyway, he
Speaker 4: has some playing experience in this league actually, and so
Speaker 4: it's obvious the issues that the Cowboys have on the
Speaker 4: offensive line as far as depth and trying to make
Speaker 4: sure that to try to fortify that position as much
Speaker 4: as possible through a practice squad and so forth. But
Speaker 4: it's interesting on the signing of a tight end because
Speaker 4: in Hindershot's injury going on injured reserve, because they they
Speaker 4: were counting on having the four tight ends throughout the season,
Speaker 4: just had McEwan on the practice squad to start the
Speaker 4: season and now he's on the fifty three obviously, And
Speaker 4: so with Sbard, I'm going to go with Saburd. He
Speaker 4: started six games last year for Denver, played in seventeen games,
Speaker 4: six starts, fifteen receptions, one hundred and forty eight yards,
Speaker 4: twenty four targets, and a former fifth round draft pick
Speaker 4: of the Falcons in twenty seventeen, So dan Quinn would
Speaker 4: have been familiar with him from Atlanta.
Speaker 5: And they they would need since they signed McEwen to
Speaker 5: the fifty three, they needed another backup tight end in
Speaker 5: case one of the top.
Speaker 6: Three, the fourth died end they can elevate somebody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't know, that's I just think that's
Speaker 4: that's interesting, and it's it's telling I think on hindershots
Speaker 4: injury probably too.
Speaker 3: Why can't they just go with the they don't want
Speaker 3: to just go with the fullback and have him learn
Speaker 3: some of the places.
Speaker 4: Well, there's been part of that going on, you know,
Speaker 4: just the way they're using Hunter Lipke, so he can
Speaker 4: definitely do some of those things.
Speaker 3: And I could see him getting out there in space,
Speaker 3: you know, past passing the ball with some of those tight.
Speaker 4: End athletic guy Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I was just chicking to see who they could
Speaker 5: potentially elevate off the practice squad on game day. And
Speaker 5: the only two that I see they've done so far
Speaker 5: that are still eligible because Jefferson used his third right, right,
Speaker 5: they elevated Malik Davis last.
Speaker 4: Week and Tyras Sweet and then no, he's on Oh
Speaker 4: that's right, they signed him to it. He's on the
Speaker 4: practice I mean, on the fifty three. So the only
Speaker 4: other guy there that they that's tried it was the
Speaker 4: two Maliks who came up from the practice squad and
Speaker 4: Tyras Wheat to the fifty three.
Speaker 5: See, and the only other tight end they had on
Speaker 5: the practice squad was Princeton fan, and he doesn't really
Speaker 5: have played any.
Speaker 6: So yeah, right, the elevation rookie.
Speaker 5: If they have to elevate two guys, it'll be interesting
Speaker 5: if they do too, because they did Elik Davis because
Speaker 5: they were worried about oh that was the special teams, right,
Speaker 5: because they didn't want Douce well, Duce Vaughan wouldn't like
Speaker 5: coverage specialty, so they did that.
Speaker 4: Induce was inactive.
Speaker 6: Right, and now that Tyrus Weeds on the fifty three, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I'll be interested to see who they might all.
Speaker 4: They well, and then what are they what are they
Speaker 4: doing with Malik Jefferson?
Speaker 6: Yeah, would they put up he's out of elevation.
Speaker 4: Out of elevation. So if Malik Jefferson is going to
Speaker 4: play this week, he's going to have to be signed
Speaker 4: to the fifty three.
Speaker 6: Or Sean but Evans ready to go?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rashawn Evans, Yeah, I gotta see.
Speaker 5: This guy's been here a couple of weeks now, and
Speaker 5: he said he was ready to get off the couch
Speaker 5: and play the Chargers three days.
Speaker 6: Said that, then, yeah, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 3: Most linebackers talk like that.
Speaker 6: Well, nobody says there, most of them.
Speaker 3: Most linebackers already. I mean that's just linebackers. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what they do.
Speaker 5: But the key thing would be is he capable of
Speaker 5: helping out on special tests, because that's why Jefferson was
Speaker 5: continued to be elevated.
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Speaker 4: Okay, when you hear that the Los Angeles Rams are
Speaker 4: coming to town to play a noon game on Sunday
Speaker 4: at at and T Stadium, what's your first thought, Sean McVay,
Speaker 4: Sean McVay, Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald, I'll follow up with
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford. Now make I was gonna say, Matthew speaks
Speaker 4: you to the punch.
Speaker 6: DeMarcus Ware going into the Ring of Honor.
Speaker 7: That's great?
Speaker 4: Yeah, When is that Sunday?
Speaker 3: Sunday? Is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow? One what Jimmy thinks?
Speaker 5: They just fishly announced announced it, although it's been in
Speaker 5: the works for a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when you said that. I said, did we
Speaker 4: already know he was going in the Ring of Honor?
Speaker 4: He has not been actually inducted into the Ring of Honor? Correct,
Speaker 4: he went in and they've just worked the schedule out
Speaker 4: of thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's what I thought of, even though it
Speaker 5: didn't have nothing to do with the Rams.
Speaker 4: If I would have asked the question yesterday before that news.
Speaker 5: Came out, I would have told you, DeMarcus where because
Speaker 5: I already knew it.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, you know he on the store.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going, he's stubbing, he's stubbing.
Speaker 4: Uh huh No, Actually it was planned.
Speaker 5: And when we did our Cowboys today, uh that Arizon
Speaker 5: CBS eleven, and we had to do it ahead of
Speaker 5: time because no one is going to be working Monday.
Speaker 6: We did that for Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Okay, So kat was out of the bag. So when
Speaker 4: you think of the Rams, though, how formidable is the opponent?
Speaker 4: Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: Well, go ahead, specs.
Speaker 6: What I was going to say, if I didn't try
Speaker 6: to be a smart alley, if.
Speaker 4: You didn't resort resort, resort, back natural instincts.
Speaker 5: I was going to say something about this Nkua Nkula guy, yep.
Speaker 4: Pooka Nakula leads the league reception fifty receptions.
Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't even know who he was yesterday.
Speaker 4: For the first month of the season, everyone was scratching
Speaker 4: their head. Who is this Pooka Nakua?
Speaker 3: Was he drafted? Yes?
Speaker 6: First round? Right?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: He should he should have been.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as it turns out, yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, not only has he got fifty eight receptions to
Speaker 5: lead the league, he's third in yards seven fifty two
Speaker 5: and he's got two touchdowns right now.
Speaker 7: He was a fifth round pick.
Speaker 4: The one seventy seven overall out of BYU.
Speaker 3: And you know, you look at him in his uniform.
Speaker 3: He looks a little small, but he is not.
Speaker 4: Is he?
Speaker 3: If? I think he's over I think he looks like
Speaker 3: he's about six feet tall. I think they talked about
Speaker 3: him being a bigger wide receiver than he looks like.
Speaker 3: He and Cooper Cup they kind of deceptive in how
Speaker 3: strong they are, how first of all, how well they
Speaker 3: run their routes. And when you're on the same page
Speaker 3: with Matthew Stafford, that's going to be a problem to me.
Speaker 6: To me, you better get pressure on Stafford, and to me,
Speaker 6: you don't.
Speaker 3: Let receivers like he and Ceedee Lamb get off the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage without some type of contact. You know,
Speaker 3: you got to touch him up in some kind of way,
Speaker 3: knock them off their timing. Because Matthew Stafford is looking
Speaker 3: he's eyeballing them as they come off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes he doesn't even look off. Uh look
Speaker 3: the dB off you we know who he's coming to
Speaker 3: the moment he sets his eyes on him out to
Speaker 3: the ball to snap.
Speaker 4: Would you like the pro day measurables for Puta Nakua? Yes,
Speaker 4: six one and five eighths.
Speaker 3: Did not think he was that tough.
Speaker 4: Okay, two hundred ten pounds ran a. This is at
Speaker 4: his pro day. He ran a four five seven with
Speaker 4: a one sixty two ten yard split, fifteen bench reps,
Speaker 4: thirty three vertical, ten to one broad jump, four three
Speaker 4: six twenty yard shuttle, and a seven three two three
Speaker 4: cone drill, which tells you he's a fifth round draft pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I say, that's not impressed nothing. Yeah yeah. So
Speaker 3: now just let you know how that crap doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 3: It really doesn't.
Speaker 4: Did not work out at the combine, had a toe injury.
Speaker 4: And now look at him, and he started his college
Speaker 4: career at the University of Washington, transferred to BYU.
Speaker 5: By the way, he's also thirty yards from scrimmage m
Speaker 5: He's had two carries.
Speaker 6: For forty yards.
Speaker 3: Oh that that put him up there.
Speaker 4: I think his.
Speaker 6: Yachhards spoke for themselves, right, receiving.
Speaker 3: I love to see guys like that, you know, buck
Speaker 3: the trends of course you know same here, but just
Speaker 3: lets you know some of that stuff. Man, the workouts
Speaker 3: here and all of that. Put the man on the field.
Speaker 3: Let's see what he can do.
Speaker 4: And at BYU he transferred to BYU in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: became a team captain. In two years, he had ninety
Speaker 4: one catches for fourteen hundred and thirty yards and eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 4: So it was productive at NYU.
Speaker 3: But they always looking for something else. Yeah, it's always
Speaker 3: something well, yeah, and let's let's find a way that
Speaker 3: to dismiss him.
Speaker 4: His vertical is only thirty three and he and yeah,
Speaker 4: and we know so.
Speaker 3: Much, you know, we we have such knowledge. We're judging
Speaker 3: you and we don't know what the hell we're talking about.
Speaker 6: How many years was he.
Speaker 3: At b YU.
Speaker 4: He had one year of eligibility left, but he was
Speaker 4: two years at b YU. He came out early and see,
Speaker 4: of course everybody had another year because of covid.
Speaker 3: R and so well he was with confidence. He came
Speaker 3: out with confidence and.
Speaker 4: And the other thing that benefited him, as it turns out,
Speaker 4: coming into the league was Cooper Cup's injury, and so
Speaker 4: the Rams needed to throw the ball to somebody, and
Speaker 4: there he was, and he took advantage of that opportunity.
Speaker 3: I wonder if Stafford knew what he had right away,
Speaker 3: because I know that at the beginning of the off
Speaker 3: season they were talking about him having problems relating to
Speaker 3: the young wide receivers and personnel on the team, and
Speaker 3: so here I think Matthew Stafford found a friend without
Speaker 3: Coopa Cup being out there, not.
Speaker 4: Knowing anything specifically about it. But I bet you Puka
Speaker 4: Nakua showed up regularly and got with Stafford in the
Speaker 4: off season and they got on the same page and
Speaker 4: he built confidence in that way. So yeah, and it's
Speaker 4: benefiting them. So when I when the schedule came out
Speaker 4: and Rams is on the schedule, okay, last Sunday in October,
Speaker 4: I said, well, that's a w because you look at
Speaker 4: the you look at the Rams roster, and you go
Speaker 4: they were so salary cap strapped. Okay, they were all
Speaker 4: in to win a Super Bowl two years ago, and
Speaker 4: then they basically had to strip it all down exactly.
Speaker 4: And so I mean, it's just it's amazing what they've
Speaker 4: done to put a competitive team together without any money.
Speaker 4: And but now week after week, I'm sitting there going, Wow,
Speaker 4: the Rams are a lot better than I thought they
Speaker 4: were going to be.
Speaker 3: And that's comes three and four right now.
Speaker 4: But there there, this is you know, I used the
Speaker 4: term formidable opponent every opponent in this league, as the
Speaker 4: Cowboys found out when they went to Arizona. I had
Speaker 4: the same feelings about Arizona coming into the regular season.
Speaker 4: We saw that in that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all. Yeah, So I just like, I like
Speaker 3: what they had to deal with when you when you
Speaker 3: know that you you're dealing with limited resources. One thing
Speaker 3: that McVeigh wanted to do. Of course, you got Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 3: but also you got to have that offensive line show
Speaker 3: it up. And they seem to be doing a decent job,
Speaker 3: you know, compared to everyone else in the league. Matter
Speaker 3: of fact, it's had that because of the offensive line,
Speaker 3: Matthew has been able to have a pretty good season.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I looked up Cooper cups measurables
Speaker 4: at the combine and very similar to Puka Takua he
Speaker 4: is he is six two two four. He doesn't strike
Speaker 4: me as being six two when he's playing, uh four
Speaker 4: six two forty okay, so right, I mean and Nikou
Speaker 4: was four or five seven? And now what does stand
Speaker 4: out is a six seven five cone drill, which is
Speaker 4: that short area of quickness right there, a four oh
Speaker 4: eight shuttle and he plays like that on the field.
Speaker 4: But well, that's the vertical thirty one vertical, which is
Speaker 4: not doesn't.
Speaker 3: His The shiftedness is their strength, right, and their latter
Speaker 3: movement is their strength. It's not necessarily be one down
Speaker 3: the field exactly. Yeah, So why do we keep why
Speaker 3: do we keep worrying about who runs the fastest? Right?
Speaker 3: I don't know why that's even a measurement? Uh huh?
Speaker 6: How come they lost to Pittsburgh?
Speaker 4: How come they lost to Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Twenty four seventeen and came from behind,
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh came from they did, Yeah they did. Now.
Speaker 6: Now Pittsburgh's four and two, so.
Speaker 3: Which is amazing, right, which is dumbfounded? With their quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: I mean, Mike Townland, the coach of the year. I'm
Speaker 3: sorry with that team, no one expected that.
Speaker 4: Look at the Rams this season they started and that
Speaker 4: surprised everyone right off the bat. They went to Seattle
Speaker 4: and won thirty to thirteen, first game without Cooper Cup,
Speaker 4: and what Nikoua.
Speaker 3: Do that game?
Speaker 4: He was ten catches, one hundred and nineteen yards with
Speaker 4: fifteen targets. And then against San Francisco they lost by
Speaker 4: a touchdown to San Francisco. In week two, thirty to
Speaker 4: twenty three, Nikua had twenty targets, fifteen receptions, one hundred
Speaker 4: and forty seven yards against San Francisco.
Speaker 6: It was Cup still missing.
Speaker 4: This Cup was still missing.
Speaker 3: Well you see what they're doing. I mean, the average
Speaker 3: per catch isn't that much. Using them to just move it,
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, that's yeah, that's a run game.
Speaker 4: And then they lost the Eagles, right, well, they lost
Speaker 4: to Cincinnati nineteen sixteen. It's close game and they won
Speaker 4: in overtime at Indianapolis twenty nine to twenty three, lost
Speaker 4: to the Eagles twenty three fourteen, beat Arizona twenty six
Speaker 4: to nine, and then lost to Pittsburgh last week.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 6: Beware of the Rams.
Speaker 4: And Stafford is throwing for over three hundred yards in
Speaker 4: about half of the games. He doesn't have a lot
Speaker 4: of touchdown passes though, and Stafford has always been a guy.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's so competitive. Don't underestimate what he can
Speaker 4: do as far as his toughness, even running a little bit.
Speaker 4: That's what Cowboys have seen. The infamous quarterback sneak at
Speaker 4: the end of one game in Detroit a few years back,
Speaker 4: and local guy coming back might be his last time
Speaker 4: to play here.
Speaker 3: So he's like a coach on the field. I mean
Speaker 3: that's what you want. He and the coach have a
Speaker 3: great relationship. They seem to be in sapatico at all
Speaker 3: times doing the game. Well.
Speaker 5: The reason why his quarterback rating is so low eighty
Speaker 5: two point three, twenty second in the NFL, he's got
Speaker 5: seven touchdowns and six interceptions.
Speaker 6: That'll kill your quarter and that's.
Speaker 3: Always been his achilles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's always been a guy that will take you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like he didn't see something. It's like,
Speaker 3: I think I can make it anyway, I can put
Speaker 3: it in there. That's him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because his yard's passing rank fourth, so completion completion
Speaker 5: percentage is only thirty percent.
Speaker 3: Let's let's call him a gunslinger.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's and he's coming home.
Speaker 4: Anybody at Matthew Stafford reminds you of coming out of
Speaker 4: high school and watching him in high school. I'm sitting
Speaker 4: there going, I feel like I'm watching John nol What.
Speaker 3: You know that way?
Speaker 4: No, I mean he's got decent size.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but John six four, Yeah, that's why I was.
Speaker 6: I bet Stafford's close to that.
Speaker 4: I'll look him up.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's those wam's uniforms make him look so small.
Speaker 3: I thought Cooper Cup was. I thought Cooper Cup was
Speaker 3: barely six feet pookah. I wasn't giving him barely give
Speaker 3: them six feet.
Speaker 4: Him at five nine, Stafford sixty three six. See how
Speaker 4: many Pro Bowls has he been to? Two one one
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl for Matthew Stafford in his career. So my
Speaker 4: John Elway comparison didn't really work well physically.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I'm gonna have to check with Walls on my height.
Speaker 5: He might get beat up five ten.
Speaker 4: No, he's underestimated.
Speaker 6: Just say, I don't ye five to five. He just
Speaker 6: doesn't estimate very well.
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Speaker 5: So the Crawler there on NFL Network said they worked
Speaker 5: out Mason Crosby too.
Speaker 4: By the way, they would be the Rams, bro. You
Speaker 4: have to speed with what we were talking about. We
Speaker 4: were talking about it. We got to stay with the break. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: people stay with us during break. Lucas Crosby haversick I
Speaker 4: was signed off the Cleveland Browns practice squad to replace
Speaker 4: Brett Maher who was released, and the Rams now working
Speaker 4: out kickers and hooting Mason Crosby, the former Green Bay Packer.
Speaker 6: So they'll have a kickoff.
Speaker 3: Not that we care, but what the hell happened to Maha?
Speaker 3: Going back? My boy man? That was my boy man.
Speaker 4: It was like Chuck knoblock disease. Yeah, he just can't
Speaker 4: throw from second, remember.
Speaker 3: That, dude.
Speaker 5: I mean, think about it, because it wasn't a flash
Speaker 5: in the pan with the Cowboys because the year before
Speaker 5: he kicked well for the Saints when they had him.
Speaker 5: That's why Peyton brought him to Denver, and I think
Speaker 5: he brought him there twice once for a workout and
Speaker 5: then once for a competition and kept him and then
Speaker 5: let him go. I was told he was still scattering
Speaker 5: the kicks, so you.
Speaker 3: Could see that he's definitely having the problem.
Speaker 6: Yeah, too bad.
Speaker 4: So it remains to be seen who's going to be
Speaker 4: kicking for the Rams on Sunday at at and T
Speaker 4: Stadium At this thought, is we we were talking about
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford? Of course, the trade was made a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago with the Lions, where Jared Goff goes
Speaker 4: to Detroit, Matthew Stafford goes to the Rams. So now
Speaker 4: as we sit here who it was obvious a year
Speaker 4: or so ago who won that trade? How do you
Speaker 4: feel about that trade?
Speaker 6: Now Goff has found himself.
Speaker 4: That's a trade that benefited both teams.
Speaker 7: He's great the Lions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he fits there well. The coach made him fit.
Speaker 3: The coach challenged him. The coach, you know, we looked
Speaker 3: at at golf as a certain type of player. We
Speaker 3: didn't think he had a lot of heart. We didn't
Speaker 3: think that he he could sustain, you know, winning, you know,
Speaker 3: and be at that type of leader. The coach has
Speaker 3: made him a leader. Coach Campbell has made him into
Speaker 3: he's gotten out of him all that he can get
Speaker 3: out of him. That's pretty impressive how a coach can
Speaker 3: make a difference in the player's career.
Speaker 4: But I think Sean McVay did too. I mean he
Speaker 4: took the Rams to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: That quarterback of the team.
Speaker 3: But you aloud knew Matthew Stafford could do that. Once
Speaker 3: Matthew went to the Rams, everyone knew that that was
Speaker 3: that was good for the everyone. Yeah, no one questioned that.
Speaker 3: We questioned the golf.
Speaker 4: You felt good for Stafford that now he's going to
Speaker 4: a team that has a chance to go all the way.
Speaker 4: And he followed through. But in the case of golf,
Speaker 4: it was it was interesting because it's almost like your
Speaker 4: first impression. For me anyway, first impressions stick with you.
Speaker 4: And he wasn't that good and and had a bad
Speaker 4: seasons rookie year, even though they went to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: And then and then he follows that the super Bowl performance.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, and then you remember that, Okay, that was
Speaker 4: a winnable super Bowl for the Rams. The Patriots went Yeah,
Speaker 4: and uh, you're a guy, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, that's what he does to quarterbacks. That aren't ready. Yeah,
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that aren't ready.
Speaker 5: How those losses in playoff games stick with you no
Speaker 5: matter of what you did during the entire season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Dak prest were in your career, Yeah, Dak
Speaker 4: Prescott and yeah Tony Robo.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no one remembers that.
Speaker 5: You know, Dak put up what thirty thirty points twenty
Speaker 5: eight points layoff loss? Yeah, took him from behind to
Speaker 5: tie the game. And then the defense allows Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 5: to drive close enough for.
Speaker 3: The worst moment fifty one of the worst moments in
Speaker 3: this regime's history for me. God, that just I knew
Speaker 3: it was coming too. I think that's why it hurt
Speaker 3: me so bad. He had done it three times that
Speaker 3: that season. You know, okay, we went. We weren't ready
Speaker 3: for that. No one watched the film, No one saw
Speaker 3: Monday Night football against the Packers. The Packers, but god
Speaker 3: who they play against? He did a heil Mary. I
Speaker 3: think the Lions. I think it was the Lions, hell Mary.
Speaker 3: More than one bad season. So now that was very disappointed.
Speaker 3: But golf ended up going to the Troy before coach Campbell.
Speaker 4: Correct, it was last year or year before last A
Speaker 4: couple of years yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: He was there. Coach Campbell was.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because he started developing the team. This is when
Speaker 7: I think hard knocks they did, they did.
Speaker 3: You look right. You didn't think golf could fit in
Speaker 3: Detroit when I first heard he went to Detroit and
Speaker 3: think that golf is not Detroit guy.
Speaker 4: Yea. He was going to be a bridge to whoever
Speaker 4: they're going to do.
Speaker 3: That's what I figured. He's not. He's not tough enough
Speaker 3: for Detroit.
Speaker 6: It'd be like going to Chicago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then here you go. Coach Campbell puts together, team,
Speaker 3: puts together good coaching staff, and there you go. Golf
Speaker 3: is different. Okay.
Speaker 4: I asked you how many Pro Bowls Matthew Stafford's been
Speaker 4: to one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's golf been to none.
Speaker 6: Three.
Speaker 3: It also tells you remember, yeah, one these days Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl these days, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: One with the Rams, yeah, two with the Rams twenty
Speaker 4: seventeen and eighteen, and then last year with Detroit.
Speaker 3: So there you go. When you go back to last year,
Speaker 3: he's one of the more prolific quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 4: Okay, So what's on your mind with the Cowboys and
Speaker 4: what they as they get back to work.
Speaker 3: This week.
Speaker 4: What needs to be the focus going back, getting back
Speaker 4: to work and facing a stretch of games here through
Speaker 4: the month of November.
Speaker 6: Where they need to really because they're playing at home.
Speaker 4: Right, five out of the next seven are at home,
Speaker 4: and they've.
Speaker 6: Got a ten game winning streak at home, so that's
Speaker 6: number one. Number two.
Speaker 5: McCarthy said that on Monday that one of the priorities
Speaker 5: is cutting down on the penalties, man, especially.
Speaker 6: The pre snaps.
Speaker 5: Especially what is going on is pre snap on defense too,
Speaker 5: by the way, I mean, that's.
Speaker 3: A killer, and it seems to be pretty simple up
Speaker 3: bright right. It seems like we can remedy that, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: I mean helmet yeah, yeah, but really you can tell
Speaker 3: that the referees are kind of cracking down on that
Speaker 3: because this is everyone's doing it. Everyone's having a problem
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 4: Everyone's trying to get an edge.
Speaker 3: But the referees are they I think they're they're now
Speaker 3: saying we're meeting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're now seeing what we've been seeing on TV
Speaker 4: for years. That guy looks like he's lying off side.
Speaker 5: The stuff that Brolichick sneaks in, right, Yeah, maybe they're
Speaker 5: off sides because the guys on the offensive line are
Speaker 5: so far off, and.
Speaker 3: That's another thing that they need to look at. But
Speaker 3: they're not putting they're not putting any emphasis on on
Speaker 3: that none.
Speaker 6: Whatso, Yeah, it's amazing three as.
Speaker 3: A moving before the snap, you can see it a lot.
Speaker 5: Well, they're trying to promote offense. And speaking of offense,
Speaker 5: that's what I'm interested in over this next stretch of games.
Speaker 6: If this offense is.
Speaker 5: Take is taking the next step because they have not
Speaker 5: been consistent.
Speaker 6: Think about it.
Speaker 5: In the two losses, they've averaged thirteen points in each,
Speaker 5: gave up twenty six are scored what sixteen against Arizona,
Speaker 5: ten against San Francisco.
Speaker 7: Mine's probably adding on to that is the offensive line,
Speaker 7: since they've only been together the starter is just a
Speaker 7: handful of times. Keeping that consistency. As we approach the
Speaker 7: halfway mark through the season, you've got to make sure
Speaker 7: they're still consistent.
Speaker 3: But not that impressive right now as far as the
Speaker 3: running game is concerned.
Speaker 5: Or a pass protection, so that kind of you know,
Speaker 5: coordinates with what I said about the offense. You know,
Speaker 5: if your offensive line is not playing well, then you
Speaker 5: got a problem. And running the ball has been a
Speaker 5: problem and protecting the quarterback and throwing the ball has
Speaker 5: been a problem.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: I know, as we've talked about before, there been extenuating circumstances.
Speaker 5: You get a big lead, you pull back. It's raining
Speaker 5: in New York. You played teams that had no chance
Speaker 5: of catching.
Speaker 6: Up with you.
Speaker 3: But still, as you this what you call the eyeball tests, right,
Speaker 3: forget those games, just the ones that we lost where
Speaker 3: we could see clearly that we are not up to
Speaker 3: snuff in regards and think about it.
Speaker 5: And it's not a matter of missing field goals because
Speaker 5: the guy has made every one of them, you know,
Speaker 5: sixteen So that was an extra point.
Speaker 3: Okay, So.
Speaker 6: He's got I think it's got over sixty points scored.
Speaker 3: So far, if I have time to.
Speaker 4: He has been the unsung star of the first six
Speaker 4: games of the season. Wouldn't you say, Mickey.
Speaker 5: Sixty points he's accounted for. I mean, sorry, wait, but
Speaker 5: by the way, and that's why I screwed up.
Speaker 4: So they've got Aubrey's right next to Brow.
Speaker 6: Aubrey Meyer had sixty three points.
Speaker 5: Only seventeen of twenty three, though, and what's our guy
Speaker 5: sixteen of sixteen to make that too short of tying
Speaker 5: the NFL record.
Speaker 4: And we know who has that record. We learned it
Speaker 4: at the end of the show yesterday, the crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't remember his name.
Speaker 6: Could you ever forget?
Speaker 3: This seems so odd? I mean I was waiting for
Speaker 3: like Mike Diaz, Mike Davis, Bill Joe. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Would you like the correct pronunciation of Eric s a
Speaker 4: U b e r t. According to the Denver Broncos
Speaker 4: pronunciation guide for him saw Bert, that sounds Eric suburt Bert.
Speaker 4: It's I bet it's I bet it's Sabbert. But they've
Speaker 4: got the emphasis on the.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 4: So wait until Brad Sham is getting to the bottom
Speaker 4: of it. And so I'm going to wait until I
Speaker 4: hear the broadcast if Eric Sobert or gets into the game,
Speaker 4: and what.
Speaker 5: Time you know on the on the depth chart they
Speaker 5: have pronunciation guide, yes, but it doesn't include the guys.
Speaker 4: On the practice fraud. And so that's why I had
Speaker 4: to look up the Broncos depth chart from last year
Speaker 4: and saw Bert is how they've got.
Speaker 3: It so well.
Speaker 6: You may need to know it on Sunday, we may
Speaker 6: that's right.
Speaker 5: If they need another tight end active can he play
Speaker 5: special teams?
Speaker 4: We're gonna find out aren't we Okay, We've got much
Speaker 4: more to get to the rest of the week here,
Speaker 4: we just got warmed up today.
Speaker 3: I was going to say I didn't find out much
Speaker 3: about the rams today. I mean I just didn't.
Speaker 6: I talked a lot about came here.
Speaker 3: I really wanted to find out more about the whales.
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Speaker 3: I must not know what my job description is. You
Speaker 3: guys forgot ever since, ever.
Speaker 4: Since, look at look at everything, Look what ever has
Speaker 4: in front of him. That's his job is to provide
Speaker 4: wisdom for the show. Our job is to do the whole.
Speaker 3: I just smoothed it. I just smoothed it. After you, guys,
Speaker 3: I just smoothed it. This is what.
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