Speaker 1: Hell, Hi Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hello and welcome to an
Speaker 1: all new episode of Help I Suck At Dating. My
Speaker 1: name is Jared haven I am not joined by Dean
Speaker 1: Alert he will be joining us very soon. He had
Speaker 1: some fan trouble, but he will be here very quickly.
Speaker 1: Vanessa is not here either. She's taking the day off.
Speaker 1: She will be here next week. So you are Help
Speaker 1: I Suck At Dating with Jared Haven. Um. But we
Speaker 1: have very great We have a great episode today. We
Speaker 1: have a very special guests who's actually in studio with me,
Speaker 1: so I'm not alone. Uh. Orlando Saoria is here, Orlando.
Speaker 1: How are you doing now? Orlando? You have a new
Speaker 1: show coming out on h G t V, which I'm
Speaker 1: very jealous about because HDTV is my favorite channel. I
Speaker 1: watched it all the time with my fiance Ashley. Uh So,
Speaker 1: tell us about the show. It's great. Hi, thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. First of all. Secondly, my show is
Speaker 1: called un Bouse My House. Every week we take somebody
Speaker 1: who's been recently dumped and we give them a really
Speaker 1: amazing homemakeover to help them cheer up and to help
Speaker 1: them heal. That's so. I love the name. By the way,
Speaker 1: un spouse your house. It rhymes you know, so it
Speaker 1: works out perfectly totally, and it like says what the
Speaker 1: show is all about, which is basically just getting your
Speaker 1: ex out of your house. Um. And so where did
Speaker 1: you come up with the concept of the show? This
Speaker 1: all start? Because it's it's true, you know, anytime you
Speaker 1: go through a breakup, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: want to change a lot of things in their life.
Speaker 1: And one thing to do that is to change the
Speaker 1: interior of your house so you're not reminded. It's like
Speaker 1: almost a fresh start. Yeah. So I actually got dumped
Speaker 1: and I sorry to hear that. Um. And that's where
Speaker 1: the genesis of the show began. So a few years ago,
Speaker 1: I was living with my ex boyfriend in a home
Speaker 1: that we had renovated together. I'm a designer, so I
Speaker 1: did all the design and then he dumped me and
Speaker 1: I moved on, and the only thing that kind of
Speaker 1: got me through that period in my life was like
Speaker 1: redecorating my new place. So I kind of found the
Speaker 1: It sounds so cheesy to say, but like the healing
Speaker 1: power of interior design through doing that and it was
Speaker 1: a super depressing part of my life. But I wanted
Speaker 1: to figure out how I could take that experience and
Speaker 1: sort of pay it forward to other people because the
Speaker 1: interior design part actually did help me so much. So
Speaker 1: that's where the original idea came from. And then um,
Speaker 1: we created a pilot and HDTV was immediately on board,
Speaker 1: and it's just sort of gone really fast. We created
Speaker 1: our pilot in September of last year, so the airing
Speaker 1: this Thursday is kind of nuts. Yeah, that never happened
Speaker 1: so quickly. I feel like I hear pilots, you know, Oh,
Speaker 1: we did a pilot about a year and a half ago,
Speaker 1: and now it's about to get picked up. So that
Speaker 1: the fact that you had a pilot only a few
Speaker 1: months ago and now your season one is airing this
Speaker 1: Thursday is pretty incredible and fast. Yeah, it's insane. It's
Speaker 1: really exciting. So and the show itself is so fun
Speaker 1: to watch. It's just like a super feel good, sweet
Speaker 1: show where I'm just doing nice things for people. It
Speaker 1: feels really good to do it, and it's also just
Speaker 1: like satisfying to watch. It's like sweet, it's funny. The
Speaker 1: homeowners themselves are like so generous with telling us their
Speaker 1: stories and being open and vulnerable about it. So I'm just,
Speaker 1: you know, feeling a lot of gratitude about it. So
Speaker 1: it's really exciting and it's also just like super entertaining
Speaker 1: to watch. It's not like a second to get bored.
Speaker 1: It's a really fun show. Oh well, I love redecorating
Speaker 1: shows like my favorite show, well, my fiance's favorite shows
Speaker 1: Property Brothers, and then she also loves loves loves love
Speaker 1: it or list it doesn't like her two favorite. I'm
Speaker 1: a big House Hunters guy an HDTV. I'm all over it.
Speaker 1: So I'm very excited for this no show to watch it.
Speaker 1: And so when you were were you in interior decorated
Speaker 1: before the breakup? Okay, so you've been doing it for
Speaker 1: like ten years? Okay, gotcha, So you're very experienced within
Speaker 1: this field. Yeah, exactly what you're doing. And then did
Speaker 1: you get into hosting just kind of after the breakup
Speaker 1: and falling into it because you also wrote a book
Speaker 1: last year? Correct? Yeah, So I've actually like the way
Speaker 1: that I got started in interior design was that I
Speaker 1: was cast to play an assistant on an HDTV show
Speaker 1: about ten years ago. And then after that I started
Speaker 1: doing interior design. Before that, I was doing production design
Speaker 1: and stat design. Like I was basically like doing design,
Speaker 1: but in a totally different capacity. So I've had those skills,
Speaker 1: and I've also always been designing spaces. So it's just
Speaker 1: kind of like a career that chose me. I didn't
Speaker 1: really choose it. It just kept popping into my purview
Speaker 1: and finally I was like, oh, I guess this is
Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to do because I keep getting jobs
Speaker 1: to do it. Um, So this show is just like
Speaker 1: a really fun opportunity to combine my like content creation
Speaker 1: and my writing skills into you know, showing people how
Speaker 1: do we design their homes as well? And like you said,
Speaker 1: you're helping people get through a breakup, And so how
Speaker 1: does reimagining your interior decoration really helps someone get through
Speaker 1: a breakup? How does this kind of work? And and
Speaker 1: and through filming and through working with other couples and
Speaker 1: and and people going through breakups? What have you seen
Speaker 1: that specifically helps other people get through this breakup? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean so basically like Unspoused, my House is a
Speaker 1: show about starting over using interior design as the conduit
Speaker 1: for that. And I think people don't understand how important
Speaker 1: their surroundings are to their emotional states, especially going through
Speaker 1: a breakup. So there's so many examples of this. First
Speaker 1: of all, if you have furniture leftover from your ex
Speaker 1: that reminds you of them every single day, that's a
Speaker 1: way that it's harder for you to heal. Secondly, a
Speaker 1: lot of our clients and we're a renovation show, so
Speaker 1: like there were people who had like crazy things that
Speaker 1: their excess had chosen. Like this one guy had like
Speaker 1: a crazy eighties like French country kitchen and he had
Speaker 1: actually been divorced for like eight years, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I've hated this kitchen for eight years. French country kitchen. Oh,
Speaker 1: just like it had like foe distressing on the cabinets
Speaker 1: and how like little like roosters in it. Just had
Speaker 1: all these like details that were like not this dude style.
Speaker 1: So he'd been kind of like living with the ghosts
Speaker 1: of his ex wife. So there's things like that where
Speaker 1: it's like this styles of the couples were maybe different,
Speaker 1: and they compromise because they were in a relationship. I
Speaker 1: think that's a healthy thing for everybody to do. Um.
Speaker 1: But then there's also things where you know, certain people
Speaker 1: in relationships don't get to do things that they want
Speaker 1: to do design wise because their partner doesn't like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's everybody. You're not alone. So like one hundred percent
Speaker 1: of clients that I've worked with have had at least
Speaker 1: a little bit of conflict with their partner, And I
Speaker 1: think that's healthy and normal and you should compromise. But
Speaker 1: the fun thing about going through a breakup, if you
Speaker 1: can find one silver lining, it's that you get to
Speaker 1: do whatever you want and it's all about you. You
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about anybody else's style or their needs.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like just a great silver lining
Speaker 1: to a horrible part of your life. Eastern Does Allison
Speaker 1: get the final say on a lot of the interior
Speaker 1: decorating or is it more of a dual effort. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she she gets the final say. We've made a lot
Speaker 1: of compromises, though, you know you can tell from looking
Speaker 1: at me. I had a lot of superhero stuff open
Speaker 1: in my studio. Part that did that. Now there's there's
Speaker 1: a Back to the Future poster up in our house,
Speaker 1: and everything else is very classy. Uh. I was curious
Speaker 1: how often do you come in and someone is just
Speaker 1: totally blank slate, like the their acts like took everything,
Speaker 1: like they have nothing, because I'm picturing like a guy
Speaker 1: in an empty apartment, just like what do I you
Speaker 1: know we did have like so we have male and
Speaker 1: female homeowners on the show. That was much more likely
Speaker 1: to happen with the guys than it was for the women.
Speaker 1: Um and for me, obviously that's way more fun because
Speaker 1: I just get to be like, all right, I'm doing
Speaker 1: whatever I want. I'm putting all the furniture that I
Speaker 1: like into your place. When you have to incorporate pre
Speaker 1: existing furniture, that's obviously a little bit more challenging, but um,
Speaker 1: you know, that's one of the reasons that I liked
Speaker 1: the idea for the show is that, like every time
Speaker 1: somebody goes through a breakup, something happens logistically, and even
Speaker 1: if you're like fine emotionally, it's a pain in the
Speaker 1: ask figuring out like always separated half our furniture and
Speaker 1: I don't have furniture, or like, um, I have absolutely
Speaker 1: nothing like you were talking about, or are I'm stuck
Speaker 1: with all of these like ugly ass things that my
Speaker 1: ex shows that I hate so there's constantly, um these
Speaker 1: just very practical things that come about during a breakup
Speaker 1: that are annoying that also can be like a terrible
Speaker 1: emotional drag. So there's a lot of different levels of
Speaker 1: the show in terms of like, hey, it's practical, but
Speaker 1: be there's a huge emotional part of it as well.
Speaker 1: And so you talk about practicality because I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing for a lot of our listeners right now
Speaker 1: is that if they are going through a breakup, they
Speaker 1: would love to change the interior decorating of their house.
Speaker 1: But obviously that comes with the price. So how do
Speaker 1: you guys deal with that on the show? Is it
Speaker 1: kind of you picked the couples and they're lucky enough
Speaker 1: that the show will pay for it, or kind of
Speaker 1: how does that happen so they're actually paying for their
Speaker 1: own renovation. We put a little bit into it, but um,
Speaker 1: we do incredible, really high end makeovers. Or because it's TV,
Speaker 1: we have like magical ideality for a much smaller budget. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's real. TV magic some how is real because
Speaker 1: things that should take like six months and cost a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars take like three weeks and cost well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure brands are also very happy that they're going
Speaker 1: to be featured on hd TV. Yeah, we're actually not
Speaker 1: allowed to do that yet. Yeah that added a little
Speaker 1: bit of a challenge. But um, it's uh do they
Speaker 1: give you a budget like this is what our budget
Speaker 1: is for remodeling or so. But I always tell people like,
Speaker 1: there's so many things. My goal with my whole career,
Speaker 1: which is why I've gone after TV and blogging and Instagram,
Speaker 1: is to inspire as many people as possible rather than
Speaker 1: like work with only like super wealthy people. And there's
Speaker 1: so many things you can do post breakup to refresh
Speaker 1: your space, starting with buying like a gallon of paint
Speaker 1: and just painting a room. So I really believe that
Speaker 1: everybody at all different income levels deserves to have a
Speaker 1: beautiful space and just you know, you have to be inventive.
Speaker 1: I was like a starving artist for all of my
Speaker 1: twenties and I always had a beautiful place because I
Speaker 1: was always creative. So if you take the time and
Speaker 1: you take the energy to actually do it yourself, I
Speaker 1: think that you can create a beautiful space for yourself,
Speaker 1: regardless of how much money you have. No, I agree,
Speaker 1: I think it's cathartic too to really kind of be
Speaker 1: creative and put your own touch on your own house,
Speaker 1: because you can kind of get lost in the mundane
Speaker 1: nous of life, right where like day goes day by
Speaker 1: day by day goes by and it's always the same room,
Speaker 1: the same color, nothing ever changes, and before you know it,
Speaker 1: fifteen years of your life has gone by without you
Speaker 1: changing a thing. So I think you're right where it
Speaker 1: can be refreshing and reinvigorating and like just even like
Speaker 1: you said, paint the room, you know, Um, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: And something that I'm trying to drill into all of
Speaker 1: my clients on unspoused my house is taking care of
Speaker 1: your space and creating a beautiful space for you to
Speaker 1: live is a way of taking care of yourself, a
Speaker 1: way of taking care of people for like who enter
Speaker 1: your home. It's just it's a way of telling yourself
Speaker 1: that you're important enough to do this for And it
Speaker 1: also just changes the way your outlook is because when
Speaker 1: you're looking around and things are beautiful, you feel so
Speaker 1: much better about your life. Oh yeah, absolutely. Um. I
Speaker 1: actually have eastern to harp on your point about like
Speaker 1: reducing the star Wars and superhero posters. I have a
Speaker 1: Superman poster, but it's a Christopher Reeve one from the
Speaker 1: one where he's flying into the sky. But it's black
Speaker 1: and white. So Ashley has allowed me to put it
Speaker 1: in our room because it's a black and white kind
Speaker 1: of artistic look at Superman where it's not very colorful.
Speaker 1: The only thing is I have to put it in
Speaker 1: a white frame. That's my only the only thing. Do
Speaker 1: you think that's bad? No? I think it's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But that's like, that's that's like the compromise right there.
Speaker 1: I can have a Superman poster up, but it has
Speaker 1: to be black and white and a white frame. Cool
Speaker 1: with that, I can see that being cool. It's like, look,
Speaker 1: you know, the least sort of conflict that I've ever
Speaker 1: heard of in terms of a couple of fighting. To
Speaker 1: be fair. I moved in with my fiance last year
Speaker 1: and she lives with her. She lived with her sister
Speaker 1: who still lives with us, and it was decorated as
Speaker 1: a women's apartment, so I just moved into it. Like
Speaker 1: there's there's one room that is called the glam room.
Speaker 1: It is dedicated to that's your favorite room, obviously, Well,
Speaker 1: my expects you spend all your time. I swear to guide.
Speaker 1: It actually is where I spend most of my time
Speaker 1: because it's we I was allowed to have my Like
Speaker 1: I put a TV in there on top of the
Speaker 1: dresser with my Xbox, so I go in there and
Speaker 1: play video games sometimes as I'm surrounded by all these
Speaker 1: very sparkly glam beauty products, which is fantastic though it's
Speaker 1: not it's it's somewhat refreshing and nice, you know, into
Speaker 1: that position. Yeah, it's cool. We're super excited Orlando for
Speaker 1: your for your new show coming out and it comes
Speaker 1: out this Thursday. H G t V. What time Thursday
Speaker 1: June six on h G t V and the h
Speaker 1: G t V app. That's perfect. Do you guys follow
Speaker 1: up with any of the couples, because I find it
Speaker 1: so interesting to see if if after they are done
Speaker 1: redecorated in their house, if it truly helps them feel
Speaker 1: better about everything they're going through. I've been texting with them, yes,
Speaker 1: and it does. Like it's it's hard to condense into
Speaker 1: the amount of time that we have each week, like
Speaker 1: what's really going on with these people? But it's a
Speaker 1: journey for them, and I think it's so wonderful for
Speaker 1: them to be able to have somebody else come into
Speaker 1: their life and like kind of be like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for you. We're going to create a
Speaker 1: new space for you to start over, because it kind
Speaker 1: of creates a punctuation point, like it's like this is
Speaker 1: where the old life stopped and this is where the
Speaker 1: new life begins. And they can see it in their
Speaker 1: house and it sounds kind of superficial, but it's not.
Speaker 1: It's just literally creating a new space for them to
Speaker 1: start over, and they feel it like it's I like
Speaker 1: just watch the edits of one of the episodes and
Speaker 1: started crying like last week because I'm like, well, like
Speaker 1: she really does you know? They changed, and you see
Speaker 1: them change over the course of these few weeks. People
Speaker 1: being told that they deserve a beautiful space helps them
Speaker 1: make helps make them feel like worthy in other ways,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's such a terrible time in your
Speaker 1: life when you're like your self esteem is plummeting and
Speaker 1: like there's so many other things going on with you
Speaker 1: that to just have somebody like that you've just met
Speaker 1: coming and be like listen, I'm giving this to you.
Speaker 1: This is what you deserve and like this is going
Speaker 1: to help you move on, is like just a great
Speaker 1: way of helping them just heal, Yeah, I agree. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of advice uh that people give for
Speaker 1: someone going through a breakup is to do something new,
Speaker 1: to do something fresh, um, you know, take a class,
Speaker 1: or or go to go to a different gym, or
Speaker 1: you know, go to someplace you've always wanted to go
Speaker 1: for yourself. Um. And so I think a part of
Speaker 1: that is, like you said, redecorating your house to make
Speaker 1: sure that you're not coming back into a house that
Speaker 1: reminds you of your ex. You know that you guys,
Speaker 1: Oh we bought that table together. We used to sit
Speaker 1: on that couch together. You know, this was our TV,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Whatever it may be. Even
Speaker 1: though it's material objects for all of us, I think
Speaker 1: some material objects have uh you know, some emotional significance
Speaker 1: behind them, uh. And so to kind of like try
Speaker 1: to get those out of your sight uh and and
Speaker 1: and into a new environment, specifically when you're coming home,
Speaker 1: because that's where you are every day of your life. Almost. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it's very important and something that's underrated, and
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool that your show is bringing that out
Speaker 1: to the forefront, so I'm excited to see it. So
Speaker 1: on Spouse your House hosted by Orlando Storia Thursdays on
Speaker 1: h G TV. Check it out, guys. I'm very excited
Speaker 1: my favorite channel, so please watch my show. Orlando, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming in. We really appreciate it. Bud,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Well, you have another special guest in
Speaker 1: studio who just arrived a little later than expected, but uh,
Speaker 1: our co host Dean Unglerd is here. Thank you guys
Speaker 1: for having me today. It's an honor to be here.
Speaker 1: I'm a big, big fan of the podcast. Mark and Easton,
Speaker 1: you guys are both incredible hosts of this podcast. Um
Speaker 1: and what was your name again? Uh? Jared? Oh yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: what's Ben Higgins? Nice to me if you wish, I
Speaker 1: do wish. Actually, so I said that you had van trouble,
Speaker 1: but correct me, you had motorcycle cycle trouble. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: putting my motorcycle into storage this week for my van expedition,
Speaker 1: and there's just been an issue with the negative terminal
Speaker 1: on my battery. The bolt always and the connection gets
Speaker 1: lost from the battery to my motor while while I'm driving.
Speaker 1: And today it happened again on the Inner State and
Speaker 1: I pulled over. I looked at it, I diagnosed the problem,
Speaker 1: figured out the boat was missing entirely. And so what
Speaker 1: I did was, fortunately I had some dental floss in
Speaker 1: my backpack, and I do have dental floss in your
Speaker 1: I have dental floss in me everywhere. It's super important
Speaker 1: for teeth. Dental. Hi, how many times do you flush
Speaker 1: your teeth? Twice a day? Twice a day? You flush
Speaker 1: your teeth every day. At least you're a better man
Speaker 1: than meat. And you put your thumbs up. What do
Speaker 1: you a big flosser over there? Now, I'm just proud.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people floss thank you. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: dentist is very happy about it. For someone that doesn't
Speaker 1: wear deodoran. And I put deodor in on this morning
Speaker 1: to actually I bought it. I bought a fresh stick
Speaker 1: with the odor because I'm like, oh, if I'm showering
Speaker 1: half as much as I used to, I probably should
Speaker 1: be wearing deodoran. Nobody wants stinky. So I showered and
Speaker 1: used deodor in today. Do you put the finding healthy
Speaker 1: deodorant like special deodor and just grab whatever. I grabbed
Speaker 1: the act stick today or the last time. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's really the healthiest. Everything else that was all
Speaker 1: organic soaps from Thrive Market, which I absolutely love, shameless plug.
Speaker 1: But now the dental floss saved my life because what
Speaker 1: I did was I like, I uh forward and backed
Speaker 1: it multiple times to create some strength and give it
Speaker 1: some more durability. And I was able to tie and
Speaker 1: connect the negative terminal to the negative prong on the battery.
Speaker 1: And so now I'm just riding out of my motorcycle
Speaker 1: that's basically held together by I felt pretty mug ivory.
Speaker 1: That's I and I feel. So you're telling me your
Speaker 1: motorcycle is being held together by dental floss right now.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm telling you. And you wrote on it.
Speaker 1: I wrote on your insane. I like I was doing
Speaker 1: absolutely insane. There's no way in hell one. I'm not
Speaker 1: a big motorcycle guy, but too if somebody said, hey,
Speaker 1: would you want to ride this motorcycle that is literally
Speaker 1: being held together by dental floss, You're out of your mind.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Oral b for making some sturdy as floss.
Speaker 1: It's on my Instagram story right now, I've been working.
Speaker 1: I think I was here on time. That's great. Why
Speaker 1: I purposefully wanted to document my issues so that way,
Speaker 1: like when you guys initially, like inevitably believe up that
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, exactly. You can see, Oh, an hour ago,
Speaker 1: Dean was on the side of the road dental flossing
Speaker 1: his battery back together. And honestly, that's not even the point.
Speaker 1: Doesn't even that that is the second most important thing.
Speaker 1: The most important thing for you documenting your floss motorcycle
Speaker 1: is the fact that you are keeping your motorcycle together
Speaker 1: with floss. Yeah, that's the most important thing. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I live in a van and I'm keeping my motorcycle
Speaker 1: held together with dental flaws. And you you have a
Speaker 1: stash now just the stash, no more. What do you
Speaker 1: think about the staff? I kind of dig it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm digging it. Um. Yeah. I was looking at myself
Speaker 1: in the mirror this morning before I jumped in the shower,
Speaker 1: and I just I just can't grow facial hair. I
Speaker 1: know you have a similar issue, but you can grow
Speaker 1: a lot more facial hair than I can grow, Okay,
Speaker 1: And I was looking at myself and it was just
Speaker 1: all scraggly on my chin, and I didn't want to
Speaker 1: fully remove my facial hair, and but I wanted to
Speaker 1: clean myself up a little bit, and so that and
Speaker 1: I said on the mustache, So if you head south
Speaker 1: somewhere sometime soon, are you gonna keep stash? The stash
Speaker 1: is gonna stay in my face for the very foreseeable future,
Speaker 1: regardless of location. It's a very traditional mustache, very traditional
Speaker 1: Tom Selleck kind of mustache. Yeah, I appreciate that. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a compliment. I'll be honest, I don't know who
Speaker 1: Tom Selleck is, but anything thing that you say about me, Mark,
Speaker 1: I'm taking you as a compliment. Just I'm trying to
Speaker 1: establish it's not there's no food two element to it.
Speaker 1: It's not curling up at the end. It's just a
Speaker 1: straight traditional muscle. So here's the thing. I could have
Speaker 1: gone all the way down to the jawline. I could.
Speaker 1: I did keep the flavor saver for a little bits,
Speaker 1: but I was looking at it, I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that looks That's what I normally do is I keep
Speaker 1: the flavor saver. But this time I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go straight mustache. Why is it called
Speaker 1: a flavor saver because food gets stuck in there and
Speaker 1: you can lick it off later. I've always called it
Speaker 1: a stinger, a little little soul patch. I've never heard
Speaker 1: it called a stinger before. I I have not called
Speaker 1: it anything in reference to like it's like the mustaches,
Speaker 1: like the head of the manta ray and then the bottom. Okay,
Speaker 1: I could see that the way. You know, Tom, you're
Speaker 1: telling me I look like that good looking dude. Here,
Speaker 1: come on, stop it now. You know it's funny. My
Speaker 1: wife and I were talking about you that you're a
Speaker 1: classically handsome guy. So are you thank you? What were
Speaker 1: you saying about me? That's weird. There is a phenomenon
Speaker 1: of good looking guys doing what they can to become
Speaker 1: less attractive. Yeah. Interesting, You want to know what it is,
Speaker 1: and I've I've thought about this. I'd like to hear.
Speaker 1: It's it's beyond physical attraction because the van thing and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I'm trying to remove people's inherent biases
Speaker 1: when they meet me. Interesting. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to be able to introduce myself to someone and then,
Speaker 1: you know, it sucks to say, but as a tall
Speaker 1: white man, people have these inherent general ideas of who
Speaker 1: you're going to be, and I'm just sick of things
Speaker 1: being so easy for me because of that. You know,
Speaker 1: So you grew ustache and it's I'm growing my hair out.
Speaker 1: I want people to like me for me, not because
Speaker 1: of how I look or how anything else other than
Speaker 1: the fact that I just am hopefully a decent enough
Speaker 1: guy for you to get along with me, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I know it's it sounds weird
Speaker 1: because it sounds weird because as a white guy, were
Speaker 1: afforded so many privileges in life, and who would ever
Speaker 1: want to strip themselves up those privileges. But it's true.
Speaker 1: It's like I just don't I don't want to be
Speaker 1: liked for how I look. I want to be liked
Speaker 1: for what's inside of me and what I say and
Speaker 1: how I think and all those other things. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't think changing your appearance is gonna It's certainly
Speaker 1: people look at all this and giving me for the rightfully.
Speaker 1: So you've been giving me a lot of stuff for
Speaker 1: the van, for the hair, for the facial hair, and
Speaker 1: again justified, it's all justified. I'm your friend, if I'm
Speaker 1: not the one busting your balls. Who will exactly. But
Speaker 1: you're busting my balls because you're my friend, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. But all of the things that you're busting
Speaker 1: my balls about are things that people are then noticing
Speaker 1: when they meet me for the first time. You're busting
Speaker 1: my balls because you're you're giving me honestly, sarcastically, but
Speaker 1: then that's also what other people are observing as well,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Which is great, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what I want, so you But then at the same time,
Speaker 1: you're giving off a perception that you want to put
Speaker 1: out into the world. What do you mean, Like, you
Speaker 1: want to give out this perception that, Hey, I'm the
Speaker 1: guy who's like growing a mustache, growing out my hair,
Speaker 1: doesn't care showers, and I live in a van is
Speaker 1: which isn't a bad thing. I'm not saying it is,
Speaker 1: but it just means that you are trying to put
Speaker 1: a perception out there. I mean, where like you could
Speaker 1: be putting out the perception not saying one is better
Speaker 1: than the other, but of like the good looking, traditional
Speaker 1: successful Yeah, I mean you can say that about anything.
Speaker 1: You're trying to do anything, and every whatever you're doing,
Speaker 1: you're trying to do that thing exactly. You're always trying
Speaker 1: to put a perception out there. So so yes, the
Speaker 1: the what I'm trying to do is, as Mark so
Speaker 1: eloquently put it, I'm trying to make myself as unappealing
Speaker 1: as I possibly can. So that way, when someone is
Speaker 1: enamored by me, I know that it's because of what's
Speaker 1: inside of me that they're enamored by, not what I
Speaker 1: represent on the outside. See, I think the opposite might
Speaker 1: be happening because you are standing out so much by
Speaker 1: making these decisions that no one else is going to make.
Speaker 1: By you know, uh, changing up your physical appearance, or
Speaker 1: living in a van or a thing, not showering even
Speaker 1: though you shower, that's not a thing. But like these
Speaker 1: things that you're trying to bring yourself down with might
Speaker 1: actually be bringing you up because you're so different that
Speaker 1: women are or men are attracted to that the semi sense,
Speaker 1: it sounds like a story I've heard before called Beauty
Speaker 1: and the Beast, except you put the curse on himself.
Speaker 1: I remember how this came up. Now, We watched Survive
Speaker 1: for my wife and I. It was one of our
Speaker 1: things and it has been since we've met two years ago,
Speaker 1: and uh so years ago dating yourself right now? Yes,
Speaker 1: but this guy on there was an inventive Joe, gorgeous
Speaker 1: looking guy. So he grows this giant mane of hair,
Speaker 1: has his weird handlebar mustache and like a pointy beard
Speaker 1: under it, like a villain in a silent movie. And
Speaker 1: it's like, what is the deal? I said, I think
Speaker 1: this is the thing good looking guys who try to
Speaker 1: like ugly themselves up or something I mentioned Dean. I
Speaker 1: said to her, I got this guy this podcast with
Speaker 1: gorgeous guy doesn't shower, doesn't wash his hands, lives in
Speaker 1: a van like it's all this stuff. So the irony
Speaker 1: of this whole thing is that as I agree with
Speaker 1: you completely on white privilege and white male privilege, but
Speaker 1: as a white male who was afforded a certain number
Speaker 1: of privileges, I'd give a testicle to look like you
Speaker 1: look you want to like mess it all up. That's
Speaker 1: the irony of it is that everyone would like to
Speaker 1: be better looking, except for the truly good looking who
Speaker 1: want to mess themselves up. That's weird. I can see
Speaker 1: your points, Um, I had something that I had a
Speaker 1: point that I wanted to make but it escapes me now.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I let it get away from me. Um.
Speaker 1: This way, especially too, is if someone ends up being
Speaker 1: interested in me, like I kind of alluded to earlier,
Speaker 1: if someone's interested in me now at my quote unquote worst,
Speaker 1: which I don't think this is my word. I honestly
Speaker 1: think this is my my best. It's not much you
Speaker 1: can do. I mean, the mustache is working. I love
Speaker 1: everything that I've been doing, and then over the past
Speaker 1: month or two has made me the happiest person I've
Speaker 1: ever been in my entire life. And I think that
Speaker 1: makes me my best but at my quote unquote shallow
Speaker 1: level worst. If someone can accept me for that and
Speaker 1: appreciate me for that, and that's great because I'm eventually
Speaker 1: I'm going to revert back to being a functioning member
Speaker 1: of society with a job and a regular, regularly kept
Speaker 1: face and a good haircut and all these things. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so if you're gonna love me for the fact
Speaker 1: that I can be this unkempt, idiotic vagabond, then I
Speaker 1: think that that will mean that for you know, future
Speaker 1: future moving forward, It'll it'll all be good. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's my take on it. It's fascinating to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fascinating me. And yes, I like to I like
Speaker 1: to put myself. Um, I like to be playing from behind,
Speaker 1: you know. I like to make things challenging. Everyone loves
Speaker 1: an underdog, everyone loves a good comeback story. I like
Speaker 1: to be playing from behind. And it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's on. I'm surprised that you see yourself having a
Speaker 1: normal life someday. I was like, the same thing. It
Speaker 1: used to say that you're ever going to go back
Speaker 1: and get a nine to five or who's to say,
Speaker 1: hopefully I don't have to your forties. You see yourself
Speaker 1: going to work every day, clean shaven, well groom maybe
Speaker 1: wearing a tie. If I don't have to, I definitely won't.
Speaker 1: But here, But I mean, you guys both love your jobs. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this is your This is your nine to five, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's those hours don't line up, but yeah, right, but
Speaker 1: this is right, this is your Monday through Friday, Like,
Speaker 1: this is what you do to two. And you guys
Speaker 1: really do enjoy what you do. I do. I know
Speaker 1: for a fact that it's just because me and Jared
Speaker 1: are here once a week and everything else is just
Speaker 1: kind of extra, you know, auxiliary. You're welcome. Um, sorry
Speaker 1: Seacrest if you're listening to this, Um, he's not. And
Speaker 1: that's great. I think, I think that it's great that
Speaker 1: your interests can align with your work, right. Yes, I
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in a radio since I was
Speaker 1: about five years and that's faculous. I haven't really found
Speaker 1: that yet, and I would hope by the time in Forday,
Speaker 1: I will have found that. Uh, and by that point
Speaker 1: I can assimilate more appropriately into the society that we're
Speaker 1: living at the time. You know, I don't know. Do
Speaker 1: you think you'll ever find that? I hope I find. Well.
Speaker 1: I think you definitely need to go after the things
Speaker 1: that you want in this world, like the things that
Speaker 1: you love. Right. You can always fail in life, right,
Speaker 1: And so I was actually uh listening to certain things
Speaker 1: like this on the way here where the worst thing
Speaker 1: in life, I feel like is when you compromise and
Speaker 1: then you fail at what you compromised for. I think
Speaker 1: that's the worst, right. Everybody is okay with failing when
Speaker 1: you're going after the thing that you love. So what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I love a lot of things in
Speaker 1: this world, right, So I could find myself doing a
Speaker 1: lot of different things within this world that I love
Speaker 1: that I go after, but it's not like one one thing.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Like? So for you, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're you're saying like, I'm trying to find
Speaker 1: this one thing that I love and hopefully I can
Speaker 1: figure it out and then I'll do that for the
Speaker 1: rest of my life. I'm not sure if it's one thing,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. What would you do, Jared?
Speaker 1: If you could do any job in the world, what
Speaker 1: would it be? Uh, any job in the world. I
Speaker 1: would be a film director. That would be my my job.
Speaker 1: The creativity of it and to be able to create
Speaker 1: a film from scratch and see it all come together
Speaker 1: is a pretty cool aspect. Okay, Well, why don't you
Speaker 1: start creating films? I've and in the works of it,
Speaker 1: you know, writing scripts and just filming stuff and kind
Speaker 1: of going with the flow. Have you done any classes
Speaker 1: or any schooling in that regard. No. I was a
Speaker 1: theater major in college for a little while, but it
Speaker 1: was specifically acting. And then I've actually never taken in
Speaker 1: a film course, but I have tons of friends within
Speaker 1: the film industry. And then I've just been a film
Speaker 1: uh connoisseur for quite some time that I've I've kind
Speaker 1: of taught myself to a certain level. Now granted i've
Speaker 1: i've I've I've done like small movies, but it's all
Speaker 1: been acting and it was mostly during college. And then
Speaker 1: I just did this small film with a buddy of mine. Um,
Speaker 1: oh god, somebody walked in that we'll get to. But
Speaker 1: I just did a small film with a buddy of
Speaker 1: mine who's a director out here, and uh, it was
Speaker 1: super fun actually did it with me. You ay should
Speaker 1: definitely check it out when it comes out. It's when
Speaker 1: is it coming out? It's called out It's called afterburn
Speaker 1: As it comes out in like July. I think he's
Speaker 1: releasing it. But it's literally like a six minute short
Speaker 1: where I play a undercover cop who's investigating Ashley because
Speaker 1: she's accused of killing her ex husband. And it's like
Speaker 1: it's it's called after Burners and it's really fun. So
Speaker 1: my buddy who I went to college with, that's how
Speaker 1: it all. I met him when I was working at
Speaker 1: Hollywood Video back in and he always wanted to be
Speaker 1: a director. He was film school. He did uh student
Speaker 1: films in college and we were together. He's like, dude,
Speaker 1: let's do movies together. And so we did a couple
Speaker 1: of short films and then he moved out here and
Speaker 1: I stayed in Rhode Island, and then I ended up
Speaker 1: being on the Bachelor and then moved out here and
Speaker 1: and uh, and then we kind of rekindled and then
Speaker 1: he was like doing him running this film, like you
Speaker 1: should be in it, and I was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that'd be so much fun. And then he asked if
Speaker 1: actually wanted to be in it too, and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be super fun. So so it's cool anyway.
Speaker 1: I Uh. There was a guy who has friends with
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago who on Instagram his bio said,
Speaker 1: if you want a normal life, get a normal job
Speaker 1: up And that is always kind of stuck with me
Speaker 1: because to that point, and to what we were talking
Speaker 1: about earlier is I don't want a normal life, so
Speaker 1: why would I go and get a normal job again.
Speaker 1: I think the reason I had a normal job before
Speaker 1: was at a necessity. And it's funny is I've actually
Speaker 1: gotten job offers to go back to recruiting in the
Speaker 1: past couple of months, six figure salaries, a great opportunity,
Speaker 1: great company, like great opportunities, and I've said no to both.
Speaker 1: There's two of them. I said not to both of them. Um,
Speaker 1: because I was thinking about it too. It was like,
Speaker 1: let's say everything hits the fan. Obviously, I know I
Speaker 1: can't ride this this bachelor train for the rest of
Speaker 1: my life. And so let's say in five years when
Speaker 1: all this is kind of fizzled out, I would have
Speaker 1: no issue in my opinion, going back to like Aspen
Speaker 1: and working at like a hotel or like as a
Speaker 1: lift operator or something that I would would still be
Speaker 1: able to do the things that I find interesting and
Speaker 1: I have done before, and I see people that I
Speaker 1: admire still doing to this day. Um. I heard the
Speaker 1: women flock like the salmon of Caprona. That's right. The
Speaker 1: beer flows like line out there. You don't have a
Speaker 1: dream job. If you could do any in the world,
Speaker 1: that's a challenging question, travel blogger or something like that.
Speaker 1: I think that if I had a dream job, I
Speaker 1: would be focusing single mindedly on on how I could
Speaker 1: get that job. And I don't have that. I don't
Speaker 1: have that, so I'm not I don't have anything to
Speaker 1: necessarily focus on. Um. I'm focusing on doing the things
Speaker 1: that I find interesting, like skydiving or out climbing, living
Speaker 1: in the van, traveling and hiking and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But I don't know exactly how or what I can
Speaker 1: do long term. Otherwise, like I said, I would be
Speaker 1: working tirelessly hopefully to to get that to happen. But
Speaker 1: until that happens. Um Anyways, while we were talking here
Speaker 1: as his years off, one of my really really really
Speaker 1: good friends and walked into studio. Whoa was that English?
Speaker 1: One of my really good friends walked into studio? And
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Speaker 1: before that break, one of my good friends has joined
Speaker 1: us in studio randomly on a whim. He texted me
Speaker 1: last night and said, Hey, I'm catching a flight to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles for a couple of days. What are you doing.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm recording a podcast tomorrow and I want
Speaker 1: you in studio. Alex Bordakov, Yeah, that's a lie I
Speaker 1: asked to come. I'll say, hey, can I come see you?
Speaker 1: And that's the only way I can catch you these days.
Speaker 1: Mind my schedule with you. Are you really gonna make
Speaker 1: me go to my phone and on recording a podcast tomorrow?
Speaker 1: I would love for you to calm. I missed you
Speaker 1: so much. I'm excited to see almost That's exactly what
Speaker 1: I said. Okay, So for everyone else has invited me
Speaker 1: to your podcast, but you even Jared somehow like I
Speaker 1: just met him and invited you more than Dean has. Right,
Speaker 1: I understand why the NUSSA wouldn't want to invite me,
Speaker 1: you know, after we dated for like six months and
Speaker 1: broke up. That's just steve me passionate. Well, yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean the sex was great, the rest of it was terrible.
Speaker 1: So for the listeners out there that I don't know Alex,
Speaker 1: you should because he's been on the podcast before. He
Speaker 1: was on my season in the Bachelorette. And I say
Speaker 1: my season because it was my season. It really was,
Speaker 1: so I wish I could argue with that. He was
Speaker 1: most recently on Bachelor in Paradise Australia, UM, which just
Speaker 1: finished airing. Yeah, a couple of months, and uh, I mean,
Speaker 1: can you just tell us about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: So both of you, Jared and Alex, had both been
Speaker 1: on Back to Australia. So I was on Paradise the
Speaker 1: year before you. Yeah, yeah, I've heard about. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously I heard from the people there because if people
Speaker 1: came back and they're like, oh, yeah, we know Jared,
Speaker 1: and I know how Laura went back. She came back
Speaker 1: for like the last two days or something like that.
Speaker 1: She got screwed, you know, she came in like literally
Speaker 1: right before we got at home. That blows. Florence was there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was there, and then who else Mac maybe you
Speaker 1: know him, but he was there last Oh no, but
Speaker 1: I'm friends with his buddy Jake, Okay, yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: I mean obviously they call and they you know, they
Speaker 1: asked you, hey, you want to come out with Fiji
Speaker 1: and they pay well, and none of it follows you
Speaker 1: back home. So I'm like, yeah, let's go. None of
Speaker 1: it follows you back home, right, I didn't have a
Speaker 1: girl for nothing. I was like, yeah, And I was
Speaker 1: supposed to only go for like a week, maybe because
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to last there. I don't think they
Speaker 1: expect me to last. And then I was actually I
Speaker 1: told me, hey, you just fly me out to Australia
Speaker 1: after I'll visit for a couple of weeks and then
Speaker 1: go home. But I ended up staying the whole time,
Speaker 1: from beginning to end. Well, so I walk us through
Speaker 1: it because I'm pretty well versed to the story. I'll
Speaker 1: admit I didn't watch, but I got through your first
Speaker 1: hand accounts, which I didn't need to because it was
Speaker 1: better than watching anyway, of course, because you get the
Speaker 1: real story and it's like getting an audio book of
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes and I gotta listen to your voice. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you went to Bachelor Paradise, Australia. You you hit it
Speaker 1: off with a girl who I thought was the cutest,
Speaker 1: one of the cutest girls in Bachelor franchise. What was
Speaker 1: her name, Brooke, Brooke. She was adorable, Yeah, she was.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was a great girl. I mean, but
Speaker 1: she got herself involved in like a love square. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say she got herself involved in the love square.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of pressure on her, so obviously,
Speaker 1: so I went in. I didn't know anyone. I didn't
Speaker 1: do any research something. I'm like, I'm gonna show up
Speaker 1: to see what happens, right, so I know only to
Speaker 1: me she was there Dan, like she was their popular girl,
Speaker 1: like Dan after the Bachelorrette not Paradise, Yeah right, right right,
Speaker 1: So like the whole Australia, she's an Australia's sweetheart, and
Speaker 1: and she was just someone that I had translating like
Speaker 1: kicked it off and just we're hanging out and we
Speaker 1: spent i mean pretty much the whole time together until
Speaker 1: she left. They didn't didn't show any of it because
Speaker 1: they really wanted to play out that same sex relationship
Speaker 1: she had. And you hear everyone in the interviews like hey,
Speaker 1: Alex and just spending all this time together. She didn't
Speaker 1: have time for anyone else who didn't show any of it.
Speaker 1: They literally didn't even show kiss which they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: they didn't even kiss. I'm like, and I'm not someone
Speaker 1: want to like kissing Tom. But I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're really gonna play it down that much because they
Speaker 1: did it to a few people at something up a
Speaker 1: couple of other people actually at Connections. They didn't even
Speaker 1: show it. They just had a pretty strict narrative that
Speaker 1: they were like, we're sticking to this and uh, online, okay,
Speaker 1: I tried watching my season. I couldn't like find any
Speaker 1: link and then it said it wasn't being you could
Speaker 1: do it through a proxy, which is kind of annoying
Speaker 1: because they have to do it all the time in
Speaker 1: Australia because you get GEO blocked, so they know how
Speaker 1: to do it. We spoil, we get spoiled. In the US,
Speaker 1: we can pretty much get access to whatever we want.
Speaker 1: So everyone's like, what's the VPN? When I was in China,
Speaker 1: I had to use the VPN that you have even
Speaker 1: just Instagram and Google, which is kind of a bummer.
Speaker 1: But um, okay, So so you and Brooke, so yeah,
Speaker 1: we hit it off. You know, she's there for two
Speaker 1: rolls ceremonies. I gave her the rolls the first ceremony,
Speaker 1: she gives me hers the second one, and then before
Speaker 1: the third one, they actually asked her to leave. What
Speaker 1: do you mean they asked her to leave? They gave
Speaker 1: her an ultimatum and this is like, this is my
Speaker 1: paradise exclusive. I actually didn't do any interviews about this.
Speaker 1: No one cares and uh yeah. They basically told her, hey,
Speaker 1: you either follow up on one of these more controversial
Speaker 1: relationships you have or go home because Alex is born,
Speaker 1: which is true. You know, I'm terrible TV. I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of sensibility is not very market about interesting. You're right,
Speaker 1: and that's why we hang out. Very interesting hearing that
Speaker 1: because I felt like in Australia, at least my season,
Speaker 1: I feel like the producers were really hands off. They
Speaker 1: were as far as like so in US, you become
Speaker 1: friends with your producers and you hang out with them,
Speaker 1: they try and you know, break you basically from the inside.
Speaker 1: These guys just kind of come in and more on
Speaker 1: the outskirts and they say, we'd like to see that,
Speaker 1: but they will have like little chat with you, like
Speaker 1: in private and say what they want to see from me.
Speaker 1: They kept wanting me to like talk to more girls.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, give us like college, Alex. I'm like college,
Speaker 1: Alex had a girlfriend. He talked to even less girls,
Speaker 1: and he was way more awkward. Okay, but what you
Speaker 1: were saying that Brooke got an offer or what were
Speaker 1: you saying that happened. Yeah, they basically told her, Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: the ultimatum basically said, if you want to stay, you
Speaker 1: can date Alex, so you can leave. Don't you think
Speaker 1: it would have been a more beautiful love story had
Speaker 1: you been like, you know what, I'm going to date
Speaker 1: him regardless. Yeah. Absolutely, But obviously she didn't tell me
Speaker 1: either version of these, you know, so you know, as
Speaker 1: far as I knew, she came in she said goodbye,
Speaker 1: and I mean we had like a long like pony goodbye.
Speaker 1: They just again played up like, you know, the more
Speaker 1: dramatic one was on there Alex. Yeah. Well, it also
Speaker 1: was convenient that both guy and the girl she was
Speaker 1: dating where Alex. So on her exit, they flipped our interviews.
Speaker 1: What do you mean? So she was like, I'm a
Speaker 1: girl's name was Alex too. Well I know that, but like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? They flipped the interview. So when
Speaker 1: she was talking about oh, you know, I really felt
Speaker 1: a strong connection with Alex, She's talking about me, and
Speaker 1: then there was no spark with Alex. She's talking about
Speaker 1: the girl, and they flipped it and that. How do
Speaker 1: you know that because I talked to her exact same thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: so then Brooks gone and then you and you stay obviously,
Speaker 1: so what happens and then the thing is like the
Speaker 1: whole time almost like hey, if you leave, I'm out,
Speaker 1: you know, because I haven't they give you a guarantee
Speaker 1: as far as you know you pay. I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not making any more here, so I can leave. And then, um,
Speaker 1: it was really late when she told me that, I
Speaker 1: just didn't pack, so like honestly that night I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like midnight. Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: pack all my stuff. So I'm just gonna figure it
Speaker 1: out tomorrow. And the next day it was the rose ceremony.
Speaker 1: So if I'm leaving, it was a guy's power. I'm
Speaker 1: taking another person with me. I'm like, all right, well
Speaker 1: I'll just stay, give my rose out and then and
Speaker 1: then leave. After That's what I did. I I I
Speaker 1: left and I took someone see, well, what happened was
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to leave at the Rows ceremony,
Speaker 1: not hand out a rose. And at this point it
Speaker 1: was kind of sil review. I was there for like
Speaker 1: two weeks and I wasn't dating anybody, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I just want to go home, and so they're like,
Speaker 1: you don't have to hand out your rose, and I
Speaker 1: was like, that's exactly you know, I'm just not gonna
Speaker 1: do it and it'll be fine. It was it was
Speaker 1: literally the week before like the final couples, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, they're all like, everybody wants to stay
Speaker 1: for an extra week, but it's literally supposed to only
Speaker 1: be couples only. So I'm gonna leave and then they'll
Speaker 1: be fine too. Yeah, it was later in the game.
Speaker 1: I get it, Like mine was. We were with two
Speaker 1: three weeks and so we still we won't even have
Speaker 1: were like halfway points. I was that would be, you know,
Speaker 1: rude of me to do that. So and then I
Speaker 1: talked to the producers, like to the executive producers, and
Speaker 1: she said, hey, I hear you might be leaving at
Speaker 1: the rowth ceremony, and uh, you know how you feel,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, I have nothing else left here
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, I know everyone here for me
Speaker 1: to chase an the other girl, they would know they
Speaker 1: were my second option and they wouldn't be fair. Um.
Speaker 1: But she was like, and then I go, what you know,
Speaker 1: I can need to leave tonight or I can stay
Speaker 1: till next bro ceremony. Just get eliminated there. If you
Speaker 1: won't be too bla obviously, I can pay me more.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, we'll we'll pay you, just stick around
Speaker 1: do nothing. I'm like, all right, I mean sold, like
Speaker 1: I already got the time off work anyway, right, I
Speaker 1: mean uh so. And then that's when Caroline came in
Speaker 1: a couple of days later. And this is Caroline from
Speaker 1: the US Bachelor, Caroline Money from You, who's notoriously known
Speaker 1: for her uh what's it called? What's the reunione? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Where she was like calling out Ari. She
Speaker 1: had that famous line of like I know what you
Speaker 1: did see. I didn't know much about her. We actually
Speaker 1: spoke a little bit before. It was like some accuse DM.
Speaker 1: She she was actually asking me set her up with Peter.
Speaker 1: So was like, she's not Internet every every I get
Speaker 1: that way too often. And you you're Peter every single time. Oh,
Speaker 1: Alex is so cute. Set me up with them. Peter
Speaker 1: is the hardest man in the world. Set me up
Speaker 1: with them. No to be there, Peter is the hottest
Speaker 1: man in the world. I know, I know, I get it,
Speaker 1: and so I can never hang out with the three
Speaker 1: with the two of you, three of us. So we
Speaker 1: were so, yeah, she shows up, and at first we
Speaker 1: literally hate each other because like two Americans, like, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to take this home, like this is the
Speaker 1: best part of this was like that was not gonna
Speaker 1: follow me back, and uh, we have some yeahs, preconceived
Speaker 1: notions about each other, and it just happened to be
Speaker 1: that she So she took one of my best friends
Speaker 1: there on the date, and I was like, they're just
Speaker 1: trying to pull him into more drama. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do my protecting, my vigilant thing and pull her off
Speaker 1: to the side when they come back and just entertained
Speaker 1: her until world ceremony. So I do that and we
Speaker 1: just started getting along really well. I mean it was
Speaker 1: very surprising to both of us, and uh, it just
Speaker 1: kind of went from there and then what what went
Speaker 1: from there? We just uh so for the next with
Speaker 1: three world ceremonies. For the next second half the show
Speaker 1: we dated there did you guys kiss? Yeah, we kiss,
Speaker 1: and they showed that one show. But you still, as
Speaker 1: an American dating an American on an Australian show, you
Speaker 1: still saw a lot like screen time than say another
Speaker 1: Australian couple would have. Well, I actually I spent most
Speaker 1: of my time in slow motion, so I had my
Speaker 1: screen the objectified this out of you very muself. But
Speaker 1: that's what they recruited me for. Like that, my like
Speaker 1: antics and just we talked we don't care about your personality,
Speaker 1: We just not at and I like, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of like conversations. I was like, oh man, that's
Speaker 1: gonna make it this time for sure, not it's just
Speaker 1: me working out and sure to be honest, I mean
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time it worked out in the
Speaker 1: short because I knew that's what they wanted for me,
Speaker 1: and did they still caught me like every time? Every time?
Speaker 1: What's funny. So I was in Australia for Christmas and
Speaker 1: New Years this past year. So I made a couple
Speaker 1: of Australian friends and while a bachelor in Paradise, Australia
Speaker 1: was airing, like three people reached out to me. They're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're friends with Alex. He's so hot.
Speaker 1: I'm yes, I know, he's a beautiful human being. By
Speaker 1: the way, what's up, haven't talked to you in six months? Um? Okay?
Speaker 1: And so so you and Caroline dated on the show.
Speaker 1: How did it end? So we left right before the
Speaker 1: commitment ceremony. What I'm not sure like what the format
Speaker 1: of that is. I actually didn't watch to the end
Speaker 1: um and we just said, hey, let's try this back home.
Speaker 1: She lives in Fort Lauderdale. I have a place in
Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale. It's like fifteen minutes away. Didn't even feel
Speaker 1: like long distance in a way. And so I went
Speaker 1: down there a couple of times. I visit her in
Speaker 1: Boston her birthday and then which kind of after a
Speaker 1: month or a month and a half kind of that's
Speaker 1: when you have to have that conversation say, okay, well,
Speaker 1: where's this going? Like it's been all fun, but is
Speaker 1: this gonna go forward? Or did should we cut it
Speaker 1: before it gets toxic in any way? And uh, we
Speaker 1: it was. It was very mutual, like we really yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't want to be boyfriend girlfriend and it's just
Speaker 1: this was how long ago? This was j your Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we had to wait like six months. They
Speaker 1: take forever a long long time. You forget what happened though,
Speaker 1: to be fair, because you're watching backs, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that it did happen. The films in November and then
Speaker 1: it doesn't air until like April something like that. It's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the time I was like, oh yeah, I did
Speaker 1: from that show. I remember last year when I was
Speaker 1: on I filmed in November. You guys filmed Winter Games
Speaker 1: after US, and then Winter Games aired like two months
Speaker 1: before Paradise aired, and it was weird because it was
Speaker 1: when everything with Ashley was going down, and so like
Speaker 1: Winter Games was over and it was like kind of
Speaker 1: moving on and then all of a sudden, I mean granted,
Speaker 1: not much American exposure came from it, but like I
Speaker 1: was just getting tweets like you're on Bachelor and Paradise
Speaker 1: Australia and it's like I filmed that like five six
Speaker 1: months ago, Like it's so I'm so detached from it now.
Speaker 1: It's weird. Yeah, I felt the same way. Did you
Speaker 1: ever go back to Uster earlier or no, No, I
Speaker 1: never did. I was gonna go back for a charity
Speaker 1: event with some friends that I met from the show,
Speaker 1: but it was just kind of it was it was
Speaker 1: a bad timing and it was kind of just too busy.
Speaker 1: And plus it's it's from here, what an eighteen hour fla.
Speaker 1: It's not an easy trip and it's not inexpensive. It's both.
Speaker 1: But you could probably get a compt I mean, I
Speaker 1: all international television celebrities, but he was at that time.
Speaker 1: I found that. But I was also not like a
Speaker 1: huge storyline within the show, and his abs aren't as
Speaker 1: good as he, so he didn't get no. No, my
Speaker 1: body's way, not yours. So I wasn't objectified like you. Um,
Speaker 1: and so I did like they wanted me to do,
Speaker 1: like a couple of phone interviews, but they never wanted
Speaker 1: me to fly down there and do any time to press.
Speaker 1: So okay, so post show then post airing, Uh you
Speaker 1: and Caroline, let's let's keep let's keep spinning this, let's
Speaker 1: get well. No, he did it, he told us back
Speaker 1: in January when they had the conversation. A month and
Speaker 1: a half. Has anything progressed since then? Oh? Since then though,
Speaker 1: I mean we've we've remained very good friends. I mean
Speaker 1: we I mean, Caroline is pretty spoken on on social media.
Speaker 1: You have very outspoken. Yeah you're not, No, not at all.
Speaker 1: I'm very private, but like sarcastically about everything. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mostly just troll you and Peter like that's and that's
Speaker 1: my social media presence. Isn't that what Instagram was made for?
Speaker 1: Well you would think so. But I mean, honestly, after
Speaker 1: going on the show, a lot of people feel that
Speaker 1: urged to put more of their private life out there.
Speaker 1: And even after our show, you know, I deflected heavy
Speaker 1: to like a lot of humor, a lot of trolling
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and I really didn't give away a lot
Speaker 1: of my personal life to that following and uh so, yeah, her,
Speaker 1: she's a little more open book when it comes to that,
Speaker 1: and honestly made me a little uncomfortable. I I her
Speaker 1: because we you know, we had to make that post,
Speaker 1: you know, after the show ended. We wanted it everyone though, Hey,
Speaker 1: uh unfortunately things didn't work out. And I literally asked, hey,
Speaker 1: the less detail you give, the better, honestly, like I
Speaker 1: just don't want to And She's like, oh, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: someone that puts it all out there, and it can
Speaker 1: be a challenging imbalance in the potential relationship perspective relationship
Speaker 1: when someone's that way and then someone else is a
Speaker 1: complete opposite, you know, it's like they can provide unnecessary tension.
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, just like with us, even like
Speaker 1: it took us what two years to like start talking
Speaker 1: about our relationships. What do you mean like we and you? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like because we both have like a sort
Speaker 1: of like trust issues, right, so we literally like we're
Speaker 1: walking on actually for a long time. We're waiting into
Speaker 1: the water, very right, And so can I trust him?
Speaker 1: I was like, Dean has a podcast? Do I really
Speaker 1: want to tell him about my dating live? I never know,
Speaker 1: it'll slip up. A couple weeks ago, I told everyone
Speaker 1: on the podcast about how we were kissing each other
Speaker 1: at Coachella. That was amazing. I have a video of it,
Speaker 1: you do. It needs to be posted on the help Instagram.
Speaker 1: That video is pretty funny. It's really funny. Um all right, man, Well, hey,
Speaker 1: it's good to see a single. I was a little
Speaker 1: worried for a couple of months there. I thought that
Speaker 1: you were going to be in a relationship, and I
Speaker 1: thought I wasn't gonna have you. You know that's good.
Speaker 1: I wasn't worried about you. I'll be there as you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be, because at the end of the day, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be single for the rest of my life,
Speaker 1: going from guy to guy to girl, the guy back
Speaker 1: to girl. Um as I travel or around the country
Speaker 1: in a van, yeah, you're gonna come up and see
Speaker 1: me in the van, or actually I still really want
Speaker 1: to see the van. I might, Well, you'll see it today,
Speaker 1: hopefully I have planned. Actually, well, I'm like fifty fifty
Speaker 1: might drive out to Jared's wedding in Rhode Island in August.
Speaker 1: And if I do that, I'll stop buy Michigan and
Speaker 1: say hello, Oh you won't I don't see why I
Speaker 1: really like beyond seeing you you're in Michigan, and then
Speaker 1: I don't come out and see you, and then I'll
Speaker 1: get the hate from next six months for the listeners
Speaker 1: out there. I once caught a flight to Michigan Detroit, Michigan.
Speaker 1: Alex was supposed to pick me up from the airport,
Speaker 1: called him countless times time and time again, texted him
Speaker 1: and said, hey, where are you I'm here, never got
Speaker 1: a response, decided to catch a flight back to Los
Speaker 1: Angeles at a principle to prove to everyone out there
Speaker 1: that I don't take from no one, right right. But
Speaker 1: here's the real story. He was going to surprise Christina
Speaker 1: at a time truth bombs today. He had a layover
Speaker 1: in Detroit, and I covered for him, pretending like he
Speaker 1: wasn't going to see her. Yeah what why why were
Speaker 1: you coming from? Well? Because he didn't want her to
Speaker 1: know he was flying to see her. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's coming to see me, Yeah, because why else would
Speaker 1: he be in Detroit? Was a going light party. She
Speaker 1: was moving to Nashville. Did she ever move? She like
Speaker 1: three months later she did it, moving in Last Angeles
Speaker 1: one games. Yeah, thanks for the truth, an any other
Speaker 1: anything else you want to get out you guys, anyone
Speaker 1: else has any questions about Dina? Just as we we said,
Speaker 1: we both out our trust issues. I'm about to put
Speaker 1: you put him on blast. Here's the thing. If you
Speaker 1: always tell the truth, you don't have to remember a
Speaker 1: single thing. So when I've said I try to be
Speaker 1: as honest as I possibly can. Some things I have
Speaker 1: to win. Hold something I have to withhold add of
Speaker 1: sake of self preservation. Were also an incredible liar. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's like I'm just saying, you use it, but when
Speaker 1: you want to be. I mean, Dean is one most
Speaker 1: charming people you'll ever meet, and is when we were
Speaker 1: in France, this is one of my favorite, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite stories to watch Dean flirt in different languages
Speaker 1: talking about the girl from the motorcycle, the girl from
Speaker 1: the motorcycle, yes, and then the woman in Normandy that
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna have yeah, um yeah, the
Speaker 1: girl with the motorcycle. She spoke everything but English. She
Speaker 1: she spoke French, Italian and Spanish and he's like, not
Speaker 1: too Spanish, and I think I can get us a deal, guys.
Speaker 1: So he's out there asking for the out DISCOUNTO. I
Speaker 1: know he she would not drop the price, but like
Speaker 1: I could, she would have gone home with you. And
Speaker 1: he was pretty cute. She's a very attractive older woman
Speaker 1: and I love it was I probably not just cracking up.
Speaker 1: And then we go to that hotel this which you've
Speaker 1: bucked I don't know how, and it was three dudes, right,
Speaker 1: and three dudes. This one starts cracking up thinking like
Speaker 1: we're not going to do anything in there that night.
Speaker 1: That was nice almost. I'm slightly offended that you just
Speaker 1: said that I'm a really good liar. I lie about
Speaker 1: when you have things, when you help them, just it's
Speaker 1: like they're like sarcastic lives to be funny and to
Speaker 1: provide interest in the lives of those around us. I'm
Speaker 1: I didn't call you a liar. I said you're good
Speaker 1: at lying. Yeah, you're not live. Maybe I'd say I'm
Speaker 1: good at misleading. Okay, what do you want? Probably whatever
Speaker 1: you want? I mean, you just stay not as hurt
Speaker 1: um Alex. What's going on in your life. We're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap this up, but I want you to
Speaker 1: fill us all in on what you're up to, what
Speaker 1: you're interested in. Oh, what's what the future holds for
Speaker 1: the most beautiful human and all of North America? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well let's Peter Cross. No, because Peter
Speaker 1: externally yes, but you are the package of externally and internal.
Speaker 1: I'm from Brussia, so I'm I'm beautiful on the inside,
Speaker 1: Peter's beautifully outside. You're both beautiful on the inside and
Speaker 1: you're beautiful on the inside. You didn't know that you
Speaker 1: got THEMN thats Um, what's going on with me? Just
Speaker 1: I've been doing that the adult thing back home for
Speaker 1: a couple of months. Just so, I'm working a lot
Speaker 1: in my house. I've renovated a shower, and you have
Speaker 1: that thing I keep reading about. Um, I think you're
Speaker 1: telling me about it the other day. Uh, you've been
Speaker 1: doing it for a job. You have a job, right,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's that's what I'm
Speaker 1: actually getting paid right now. I'm not technically working remotely,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean my job allows me to be flexible.
Speaker 1: I can work remotely, I can do what flexible hours,
Speaker 1: come in and go. So that's really nice. Uh. I
Speaker 1: travel a ton like last year. I mean I don't
Speaker 1: post as much as you, but I actually when I
Speaker 1: was going thirty four weekends you different places. What does
Speaker 1: you live in, gross plat Michigan. Well, yeah, wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to travel. Plus it's something to do. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of my friends really like coupled up or moved away,
Speaker 1: so it's it's really hard to get like the same
Speaker 1: group of friends. Like you have a huge group of friends,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how you're maintaining them. Mine kind
Speaker 1: of aged doubt. So literally, like if I want to
Speaker 1: hang out with them, it's just me going to play
Speaker 1: with their babies. And so I've been traveling a lot,
Speaker 1: so I took a little time off from that, just
Speaker 1: you know, hop around here and there. But this summer,
Speaker 1: I definitely want to go Australia because I never ended
Speaker 1: up making I want to go New Zealand, and I
Speaker 1: might make my way back home the other way, so
Speaker 1: which way west it would be until go back you know,
Speaker 1: maybe Bali, Thailand, maybe go back to Russia. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: they just go go around the world maybe a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Uh, we'll see what happens. So that that's
Speaker 1: the only thing I have planned for the summer. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a big plan. It's you know, it's as planned
Speaker 1: as Dean's life is. It just kind of you know,
Speaker 1: it happened, whatever happens is gonna happen. Just throwing in
Speaker 1: a van and see what happens. Right, Not that you
Speaker 1: asked for it, but I would say, maybe avoid the
Speaker 1: Southern Hemisphere in the months of July, August and September.
Speaker 1: That's just the rent. I appreciate it. Yeah, you're a very,
Speaker 1: very person to ask. Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about on all things all matters. Um, all right, Alex, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming. Um, I'm sorry for sending you
Speaker 1: the wrong address. Yeah, but can we do we at
Speaker 1: least you got sent to a Domino's. We address this waited.
Speaker 1: I waited a Domino's pizza for an hour a few
Speaker 1: Did you order anything? I like the things I knew.
Speaker 1: He was writing his motorcycles and he can't answer the phone,
Speaker 1: and I know he probably keeps breaking down on the
Speaker 1: way here. Alex asked for the address for the podcast
Speaker 1: studio and I texted him and I don't even know
Speaker 1: where I got. First of all, you made me make
Speaker 1: my own way here instead of being a good friend
Speaker 1: picking me up in the van that it has a bed. Well,
Speaker 1: I couldn't pick you up on the motorbike. You could.
Speaker 1: It's being run on dental floss right now. If you
Speaker 1: want to jump on that that I would have chances
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, there's the dental floss is holding the
Speaker 1: battery together at the moment. But I made up this
Speaker 1: address that I thought was at least within a block
Speaker 1: radius of the podcasting studio. It's like a mile on
Speaker 1: the half. But now that's my mistake. Um. Anyways, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming in today. Oh, thank you for me. Um.
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to get off your chest before
Speaker 1: we sit part? Ways? Yeah? Anything else about Deane? That
Speaker 1: that's what? Do we have? Any questions? Let's do this
Speaker 1: some Oh yeah, we can do one email, right, I
Speaker 1: mean this is let's do an email that's asking about
Speaker 1: Dean's life. Like but you can just put in there
Speaker 1: if you want. I feel like we're like an hour
Speaker 1: twenty in, but let's just crank. It's more of a
Speaker 1: story than in a question. But Timbothy, it's a pretty
Speaker 1: good story. I matched with the girl who made a
Speaker 1: good conversation. Our first day went to a country concert,
Speaker 1: a great time. She told me she loved rollerblading, so
Speaker 1: I said, hey, for the next day rollerblading. I'm not
Speaker 1: crazy for roller blade. Anybody thought that's how I'm going
Speaker 1: to make this happen. So I bought a brand new
Speaker 1: pair of roller blades for eighty five dollars. I wasn't practiced,
Speaker 1: sat down in the curb, and I thought, I can't
Speaker 1: show up in this date with brand new, shiny roller blades.
Speaker 1: She's gonna know I'm trying to pass myself off as
Speaker 1: a rollerblader. So he grabs a bunch of dirt and
Speaker 1: gravel and scuffed up the sides of his roll of
Speaker 1: blades really good, making look like he's had these for
Speaker 1: a while. The next day I text her that will
Speaker 1: meet in an hour, and she never responded. I got
Speaker 1: ghosted the night of The worst part is I can't
Speaker 1: return the role to blades. There were eighty five dollars
Speaker 1: because the store said there were two scuffed unbelievable. This day,
Speaker 1: I still have those rollerblades in my trunk, just wouldn't
Speaker 1: to be used. Sorry, Timothy, Sorry about that, Tim Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully one day in the future you'll meet a girl
Speaker 1: who really appreciates those role blades. Here's what I wants
Speaker 1: can go roller blading into the I admire the commitment level,
Speaker 1: no kidding. Here's what I want Timothy to do every
Speaker 1: day before work, after work, put an hour of working
Speaker 1: on the on the blades. Become a semi professional, if
Speaker 1: not a professional, rollerblader. Get back in her radar. When
Speaker 1: you were on top of the podium at the next
Speaker 1: Summer X Games, I want you to look straight into
Speaker 1: the camera and be like this was for you. This
Speaker 1: is what you're missing out on. I think that's a
Speaker 1: great story. I think that's sorry. If you're going to
Speaker 1: go to that level, that extent to impress a girl
Speaker 1: that you are interested in getting to know, that means
Speaker 1: that you're gonna be a very great boyfriend at one
Speaker 1: point in your life to someone very special. Why no,
Speaker 1: they're not a roller by that. We all need extra skills,
Speaker 1: don't we. This could come in handy someday. Exercise. He's
Speaker 1: perfect on the inside, on the inside, on the outside,
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, I think it's a great And that's
Speaker 1: not true either. The hell am I even talking about
Speaker 1: you are perfect on the outside. If you're more perfect
Speaker 1: on the inside, he could. He could lose the mustache.
Speaker 1: We were talking about that earlier. You like the mustache? No,
Speaker 1: I love the mustache, but it's really creepy. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's why I love it, though I was telling Mark.
Speaker 1: I was telling Mark earlier that the idea is to
Speaker 1: remove people's inherent biases when I meet them. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you're adding biases. Anyways, that'll do it for
Speaker 1: this week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating? No
Speaker 1: better time to end it than there. Uh, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you to our guest, to Jared So you interviewed, Yes,
Speaker 1: Orlando Soriah. He has his new show on HDTV, premiering
Speaker 1: this Thursday. It's called Unspoused My House. I'm very excited
Speaker 1: on my favorite channel or Londo story, I am on
Speaker 1: a show. I am a little bummed. I wasn't here
Speaker 1: for that, because you're gonna when when Leslie and I.
Speaker 1: When Leslie and I broke up, I rearranged my bedroom
Speaker 1: for that same reason. I was like, I've got all
Speaker 1: these memories of having Leslie my girlfriend in here and
Speaker 1: then and then we broke up. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: now I have to change everything. So I like moved
Speaker 1: my bed around, I bought new furniture, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. So I really wanted to talk to him
Speaker 1: about that. Unfortunately we didn't get the chance to. Why
Speaker 1: did you guys break up? It just wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: there wasn't a future. This is just this lack of compatibility.
Speaker 1: What what, Alex? Why are we talking about this? So
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he said it sounds sounds interesting. I'll
Speaker 1: be tuning into a show. Yeah, it sounds pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Big thank you to uh Me for
Speaker 1: showing up today. Big thank you to Jared Mark and Easton.
Speaker 1: Big thank you to our sponsors of course as well. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm forgetting anyone, so big thank you
Speaker 1: to Alex Boardy. Ladies and gentlemen, be sure to check
Speaker 1: him out on social media. Alex underscore boardy, Right, what
Speaker 1: used to be? You used to be able to find
Speaker 1: me on your Instagram but now you only pose with alcohol? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well I used to be every other picture with me
Speaker 1: and we had like a good thing going. I'm in
Speaker 1: a dark place right now. Thank you for making someone.
Speaker 1: Be sure to tune into next week's episode of Help
Speaker 1: I Suck At Dating, because maybe we will suck a
Speaker 1: little bit less. Follow help by Suck At Dating with Dean,
Speaker 1: Vanessa and Jared on I Heart Radio or wherever you
Speaker 1: listen to podcast