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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten Touchdoup. Welcome to Chargers Weekly, our

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Speaker 1: pen ultimate regular season show with the great Julie Lade,

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Speaker 1: and it is a day of celebration, Julia. We kick

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Speaker 1: off the new year as we are taping this on

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Speaker 1: January second, with a birth in the playoffs. I know

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Speaker 1: we're going to be looking back to Sunday. It was

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Speaker 1: a while ago looking forward to this following Sunday, should

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Speaker 1: say Saturday. It was a Saturday game and the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's worthwhile, you know, because the

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Speaker 1: Chargers had an opportunity to, you know, kind of chart

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Speaker 1: their own course. They didn't have to rely on anybody

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Speaker 1: win the game on Sunday. And they're in and after

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Speaker 1: a pun on their first offensive possession, they score on

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Speaker 1: seven consecutive possessions, really in emphatic manner, declaring, yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: ready for the tournament where we're ready to go playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We are talking playing, we are talking playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Money.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: But honestly, when you watch the game, it was like

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Speaker 4: they smelt blood like their own death news in there.

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Speaker 4: They're like, we're gonna go out here, we're gonna handle business.

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Speaker 4: And that's what happened you've seen the team show up.

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Speaker 4: All three phases, offense, defense, and special teams showed up

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Speaker 4: down in Foxborough and they handled business. It was a

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Speaker 4: beautiful thing to see because oftentimes, playing in this league,

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Speaker 4: it's so hard to get into the playoffs. I was

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Speaker 4: just talking to my guy here before the show, and

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Speaker 4: I said, my rookie year, I got into the playoffs

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Speaker 4: in twenty thirteen, and I thought, hey, every year, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: This was easy, right, And it's not like that.

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Speaker 4: It took me for another five years after that to

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Speaker 4: get into the playoffs. So just to see, you know,

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Speaker 4: hardball and this staff coming here the first year when

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Speaker 4: everyone said this was going to be a rebuilding year,

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Speaker 4: and for them to dominate the way they have and

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Speaker 4: have their own destiny in their hands, to clinch a

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Speaker 4: playoff victory before the last game of the season, it's remarkable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you it's you mentioned twenty eighteen when

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Speaker 1: you made it with the twelve wins, and you think

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Speaker 1: about that Saturday night contest against the Ravens and how

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Speaker 1: that goes differently.

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Speaker 2: You're the one seed.

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Speaker 1: Instead you get kicked all the way down to the

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Speaker 1: wild card. That's just a whole different conversation way. But

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Speaker 1: I think kind of the I want to go back

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Speaker 1: to twenty seventeen because start out zero four, things could

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Speaker 1: have gone super sideways instead, Coach Lynn writes the ship,

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Speaker 1: you guys are making that push week seventeen. You know

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Speaker 1: they played sixteen games back then. Kids, Week seventeen, it's

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Speaker 1: not in your control. You win the game, but now

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Speaker 1: you've got this ten minute window after the game. What

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Speaker 1: was that? What is that ten minute window like when

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Speaker 1: you're in the locker room, you're watching the game, I assume,

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Speaker 1: right years or so, what was that like when you

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Speaker 1: don't control your own Because that's what the Bengals are

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Speaker 1: going through right now and what they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: deal with on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Quite frankly, money to be really, it sucks, yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: it sucks because, like you said, we started off on

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Speaker 4: four and then we made a strong push and we

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Speaker 4: had to rely on somebody else to get us into

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Speaker 4: the dance. And we were hot at that time, and

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Speaker 4: we felt like we were one of those teams at

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Speaker 4: the time that if we got into the playoff push,

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Speaker 4: there wasn't many people we felt that could beat us,

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Speaker 4: right so we obviously took care of business. We started

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Speaker 4: it's just like, you can't do nothing about it, right,

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Speaker 4: You're hoping for the team to win so you can

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Speaker 4: get in. And unfortunately we didn't get in that year,

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Speaker 4: and it was a bummer because we were rolling. And

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Speaker 4: as you've seen, the year after that, we continued to roll,

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Speaker 4: and that's when we had the twelve one season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and he won a playoff game, and they

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Speaker 1: Of course, we can get into that a little bit

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Speaker 1: a negative carryover from how that thing turned out. But

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Speaker 1: I kind of bring it up because you mentioned playing

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Speaker 1: your best football at that time of year in twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen felt like and it feels like, Okay, Alowe's you know,

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know they lost Molden and I don't think we

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Speaker 1: You saw what it meant to have Dobbins back in

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Speaker 1: that game, and how different the running game looks with

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Speaker 1: an elite running back back. They're one of the best

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Speaker 1: in the league. It does feel, does it, am I right?

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Speaker 1: Does it feel like this team, no one is healthy,

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Speaker 1: is playing their best football these last six quarters?

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Speaker 4: Well, no one's healthy, but they're healthy getting healthier, right,

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Speaker 4: And everyone at this point in the time in the season,

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Speaker 4: playing in my nine year career, at this point, you're

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Speaker 4: just beat up, right, and you have injuries. Every other

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Speaker 4: team has injuries. But like you said, it's like the

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Speaker 4: charges are coming around. Guys are getting back off the

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Speaker 4: well are they going to arrest those guys? And now

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Speaker 4: Jim Harboll say, no, we're playing. We want to get

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Speaker 4: into that position to where we can actually drop a seed,

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Speaker 3: So they're coming along at the right time.

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Speaker 4: And like you mentioned, you have to play your best

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Speaker 4: ball in December, December, January. If you're playing your basketball

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Speaker 4: in December and January, it doesn't matter what seed you are.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what seed you are. We've seen it

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Speaker 4: time and time again in the NFL, doesn't matter what

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Speaker 4: seed you are. When you get into the playoffs, it's

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Speaker 4: a whole different ballgame. Your preparation changes, the speed of

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Speaker 4: the game changes, the intensity the crowd.

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Speaker 3: You feel it.

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Speaker 4: You feel it from the week you step in on Monday,

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Speaker 4: and you feel it all the way until you walk

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Speaker 4: into the tunnel on Sunday. So, Bro, it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad to see the Charges back in the dance.

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Speaker 4: Let's get our dances shoes on mine. It's gonna beautiful man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, the schedule makers don't always do your favors.

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Speaker 1: There were a couple bumps in the road the way

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Speaker 1: they scheduled it for the Chargers, the first ever Flex

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game. Obviously it works out for them. At

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what started this feeling we have about

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Speaker 1: But the one thing they did, you can't deny it,

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Speaker 1: is they helped out the Chargers immensely by scheduling the

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Speaker 1: you never want to say, oh, yeah, there's a chance

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Speaker 1: we're not going to play, so we're not really one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent focus because maybe. But essentially what they've done is,

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Speaker 1: you know, Bengals win, and now you're playing for a

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Speaker 1: you've got a Steelers team, you could have a red

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Speaker 1: the number one wildcard, you can envision potentially hosting a

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Speaker 1: that's dangled in front of you in Week eighteen against

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Speaker 1: a Raider squad that's trying to win their third and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals don't win, the Steelers win, they lock in

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Speaker 1: the five. How much of an advantage, I don't know

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Speaker 1: be playing all their guys. They're gonna be playing hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Browns are gonna be motivated the former

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Speaker 1: that if that's the path, if the Chargers are locked

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Speaker 1: derwit bye week for you guys, get get two weeks

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Speaker 1: arrest here before we go into the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I wish, right, I wish like hope, Yeah, you hope

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Speaker 4: for that, Like you obviously you're not gonna arrest everybody,

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Speaker 4: but you can arrest your You're gonna rest your studs'

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Speaker 4: can arrest your superstars, and you're gonna say, you know what,

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Speaker 4: get healthy, you know, start studying film on the opponent

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Speaker 4: that we're gonna possibly see. Right, and and it's it's

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Speaker 4: good because you want those guys to go in as

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Speaker 4: risk any unwanted injuries, right, Right, It's about who's healthy

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Speaker 4: at this time. I'm pretty like when I was playing,

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Speaker 4: we didn't even.

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Speaker 3: Have pads on it.

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Speaker 4: This time going into the playoffs, it was just strictly

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Speaker 4: It's more of a mental game now. It's more being healthy,

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Speaker 4: a mental game. So that would be a great, great

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Speaker 1: Really, you know, I think for people that are you know,

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Speaker 1: just pinning their hopes on, you know, the Bengals knocking

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Speaker 1: off the Seals, and I do think that would be ideal.

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Speaker 1: I would much rather have the guys have to play

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Speaker 1: able to potentially host a game because of how it

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Speaker 1: just feels tight.

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Speaker 2: The AFC feels tight.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Chiefs, you know, are coming in with one loss,

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Speaker 1: going into a game that they're not going to play

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Speaker 1: their starters. The Bills have looked great, but I do

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Speaker 1: think there are flaws in each and every one of

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Speaker 1: these teams, it doesn't feel like any of them are buzzsaws.

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Speaker 1: So like the idea of the higher seed and the

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Speaker 1: all bummed out that they can't get the five. Look

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Speaker 1: at it as though, you know, the Chargers are coming

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Speaker 1: off a mini Bui of sorts, while the Ravens are

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Speaker 1: go a long way. And again, it's a team that

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Speaker 1: they already face this year. And I do think that's

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Speaker 1: another interesting, you know, part of being the sixth seed

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Speaker 1: is it's a team that you've already played exact Now. Granted,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens already played the Chargers as well, but I

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Speaker 1: do think there's a little bit of an advantage there,

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Speaker 1: right of being able to go back, Okay, what do

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Speaker 1: we do wrong? What can we fix? How can we

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Speaker 1: I would assume there's some built in advantage to that.

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Speaker 3: Man, look at it. They start slower. Just it's happened.

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Speaker 1: Let me take this opportunity. It's not an annual, it's

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Speaker 1: But let this be a moment where the Competition Committee

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Speaker 2: It just it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: People.

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Speaker 1: Oh, division's got to be worth something. Yet, is you

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Speaker 1: Think of Clemson as the twelve seed in the College

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Speaker 1: Sakewan Barkley's chasing Eric Dickerson. They're not breast in him.

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Speaker 3: Money. Get on the committee, I know, listen, get on

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Speaker 2: Not going to say whose name.

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Speaker 1: You please just this has got to be your cause,

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Speaker 1: All right, that's the playoff conversation. Let's get to the

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence that their two best

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Speaker 3: It's just like blocking for Herbert versus blocking for a backup.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, we're gonna bust our tail because we don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's fit it wrong because it was a business decision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll tell you it's Uh, there's so many

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Speaker 1: Here's a little pass for you, Tucker Fisk. Do you

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Speaker 1: It's appreciate you, you know, appreciate you in those calves

436
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Speaker 1: and you out there, you know, protecting me and opening

437
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Speaker 1: up holes and setting the edge, and you know, like

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Speaker 1: I love that that's happening. You know, you looked at

439
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Speaker 1: the game against Denver, ten receivers game against or ten

440
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Speaker 1: different receivers called a pass. When you look at the

441
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Speaker 1: game against the Patriots, nine different receivers catch a pass

442
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Speaker 1: and it goes a long way. Man, does they ask

443
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Speaker 1: these receivers to block that? They are asking and they're

444
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Speaker 1: gonna probably be asking him to block a lot more

445
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Speaker 1: in some of these cold weather cities. You know, it's

446
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Speaker 1: not gonna get a lot of targets, but you are

447
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to get your hands on dbs and linebackers,

448
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Speaker 1: and we need you to clean that up. And I

449
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Speaker 1: do think there's something to that to be in Tucker

450
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Speaker 1: Fisk and just having a catch from Justin Herbert in

451
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Speaker 1: every single game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been baling, man. He's hey, there's more receptions

453
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Speaker 4: than I had in my career, dude. So I mean,

454
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Speaker 4: he's been doing really well. And what I love about

455
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Speaker 4: it too, is that Herbert is just taking this team by,

456
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Speaker 4: like by the horns, right. He's distributing the ball to

457
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Speaker 4: plenty of different receivers, check down some running backs, tight ends, fullbacks.

458
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Speaker 4: You just never know when you game plan for the

459
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Speaker 4: Chargers who's going to be featured. Obviously Ladd, and Ladd

460
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Speaker 4: has done his thing. Congratulations as the Ladd rookie receivement

461
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Speaker 4: reception leader.

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Speaker 3: Right and yards a whole nine. He's just a stud.

463
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Speaker 3: But you when you watch the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Justin is place. Keenan took his record place.

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Speaker 3: My boy, Keenan.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Keenan, though, you still a ball dude first.

467
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Speaker 3: But it's just it'sn't res dude.

468
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Speaker 4: You just never know who Herbert is going to, like physically, mentally,

469
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Speaker 4: emotionally say, you know what, you're going to be the

470
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Speaker 4: guy that I'm looking at this game. He doesn't do it,

471
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Speaker 4: he's he distributes. He distributes it well among the board

472
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Speaker 4: and I think the guys, like you said in the

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Speaker 4: locker room, really really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll tell you the other thing that they're

475
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Speaker 1: putting on film, And I don't think it can be

476
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Speaker 1: underestimated because we have been talking.

477
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Speaker 2: About it for a while now.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to take the top off the defense? Are

479
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Speaker 1: they going to have to go out and trade for

480
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Speaker 1: a receiver? Can they sign a receiver? Is it DJ Chark?

481
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Speaker 1: Who's it going to be? Well, it turns out it's

482
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Speaker 1: Darius Davis and he's been just hiding under our noses

483
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Speaker 1: the whole time. And you got to see that four

484
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Speaker 1: to three speed put to use in back to back games.

485
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Speaker 1: Guy goes almost two full seasons without a receiving touchdown

486
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Speaker 1: and then gets two in as many weeks, and.

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Speaker 3: They've been cansy catches.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: They've been nasty catches, dude.

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Speaker 1: The people that are watching it on YouTube and not

491
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Speaker 1: listening to the podcast right now, I mean they're seeing

492
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Speaker 1: it that is full extension, that is gold gloves center.

493
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Speaker 2: Field or level layout.

494
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Speaker 1: Sacrifice your body and you know it, Julia, Like, surviving

495
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Speaker 1: the ground in football is not easy, let alone when

496
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Speaker 1: you're surviving the ground fully extended and the call is

497
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Speaker 1: on your fingertips in the cold and you've got to

498
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Speaker 1: survive that. And like you think about the first touchdown

499
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Speaker 1: you had the week before against the Broncos, just smart

500
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Speaker 1: and way improvised. And now that's on film for the

501
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Speaker 1: playoffs for people to say, all right, well, when Darius

502
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Speaker 1: is out there, that might hand it to him. He

503
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Speaker 1: might run down the field, it might be a quick,

504
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Speaker 1: you know, shot to the flat with blockers in front

505
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Speaker 1: of him, when you have four to three speed and

506
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Speaker 1: it shows up on film like that. To me, that's

507
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Speaker 1: a huge advantage now going into the playoffs to have

508
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Speaker 1: that out there.

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Speaker 4: And it's a good point that you made. You said

510
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Speaker 4: that it shows up on film, because when I play

511
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Speaker 4: in the league, there'll be guys who he scouted and

512
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Speaker 4: it was like, oh, he's a four to two guy

513
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Speaker 4: or a four to three guy, But when you watch

514
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Speaker 4: the film, he doesn't run a four to or run

515
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Speaker 4: a four three like.

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Speaker 3: So it's yeah, he's fast.

517
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Speaker 4: But his route running is not fast, and he's not

518
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Speaker 4: really threatening your cushion as a dB Darius. That's a

519
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Speaker 4: totally different story. He's showing up on film. He runs

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Speaker 4: a four three forty, but he plays for three. So

521
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Speaker 4: it's been a really good thing. Like you said, he

522
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Speaker 4: can come in on jet motions, you can throw him screens,

523
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Speaker 4: deep overs, deep balls, and he's showing you that he

524
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Speaker 4: has legit, legit wide receiver hands. He's just not a

525
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Speaker 4: gadget guy or a special teams all Pro returner. He's

526
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Speaker 4: coming into his own as a receiver.

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Speaker 1: And I think the you know, kind of one of

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Speaker 1: the other things that was pushed out there. And I

529
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Speaker 1: remember hearing it around a little bit going into the

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Speaker 1: Patriots games. Some of the talking heads that were, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, might take the Patriots and the points or

532
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Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of like the way they

533
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Speaker 1: played the Bills and this is a team that plays

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Speaker 1: a lot of man, and Herbert struggled against man. And

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, okay, first of all that didn't happen. Obviously,

536
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Speaker 1: they scored on seven consecutive possessions. But I think you

537
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Speaker 1: saw the value of pass pro is that maybe that

538
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Speaker 1: is what the Patriots felt, That's what J'ron Mayo felt,

539
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Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, I'm just gonna send guys,

540
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a fifth, maybe a six guy coming

541
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Speaker 1: every time, and let's see if they can block it up.

542
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Speaker 1: And we're comfortable with our guys man man on the outside.

543
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Speaker 1: And there have been teams that have done that right

544
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Speaker 1: and it's worked, and the guys aren't able outside a

545
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Speaker 1: lad to create shake free. But that's the other thing

546
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Speaker 1: that happened in this game, is got those two passages

547
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Speaker 1: of stones, who's just torching like numbers all and so

548
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: like all that stuff is now sort of the narratives

549
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: that had been created. And again it's created because you

550
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Speaker 1: got fourteen fifteen games of football to build it off of.

551
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Speaker 1: But to have these last couple lads getting inside of

552
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Speaker 1: Patzertan and he's able to shake free of him and

553
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Speaker 1: there's nothing that they can do about it. Christian Gonzalez,

554
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Speaker 1: you know, didn't man him up specifically in the slot

555
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Speaker 1: like we thought, and look what happens.

556
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Speaker 2: He makes them pay.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, if you're not going to dedicate your

558
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Speaker 1: number one guy and to our number one guy, then

559
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Speaker 1: he's going to torch you. That's just that's the reality

560
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Speaker 1: of it. He might be a rookie, but it doesn't matter.

561
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Speaker 1: Like now you're going to have defenses have to adjust

562
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Speaker 1: to the Chargers offense, which I don't think we saw

563
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Speaker 1: as much early in the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's starting to get that respect from other teams,

565
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Speaker 4: like this is a main he's the number one receiver

566
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Speaker 4: right now, and he's a game breaker. Lad's a game breaker.

567
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Speaker 4: He can beat you on the outside and can beat

568
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Speaker 4: you on the inside. You see him take him deep

569
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Speaker 4: and throughout the season. I keep talking about this. He's

570
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Speaker 4: not the biggest guy in stature, but he's going up

571
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Speaker 4: and making tough catches. He's going up in as my

572
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Speaker 4: kids would say, he's headtopping. Back in the day we

573
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Speaker 4: say Randon, he would say, you got marss. My kids

574
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Speaker 4: would say, he's head topping people. So he's going up.

575
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Speaker 4: He's elevating against bigger corners, bigger in physical height and weight,

576
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Speaker 4: and he's just in a really, really impressive receiver, dude.

577
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Speaker 4: And what I love about him money is that his humility,

578
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Speaker 4: his humbleness. It's never about him. It's always about the team.

579
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Speaker 4: Same thing with justin passing. What was it Peyton Manning

580
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: red record. You see Derwin James postgame slapping on Let's go.

581
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Speaker 4: He's just challing with his nice smile and his and

582
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Speaker 4: his beanie on and he's like, you know, I want

583
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 4: to just tell you guys, you know, thank you to

584
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 4: all the that talks about the guys who came before me,

585
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Speaker 4: who I played with and caught all those passes. So

586
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Speaker 4: this team, man, it really shows that this is one team, right.

587
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Speaker 4: There's no individual who is Obviously we have Pro bowlers

588
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Speaker 4: and we have stars on this team, but as a team,

589
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Speaker 4: as a whole, they're jelling and they have one mind

590
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Speaker 4: and they have one goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that goes a long way. I mean, it's

592
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Speaker 1: like you said, everybody's hurt. You know, there's some guys

593
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Speaker 1: whose contracts are coming up. There's some guys that you

594
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Speaker 1: know are financially set. And the way all that stuff

595
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Speaker 1: is equitable is when you're playing for each other and

596
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Speaker 1: you do feel that connection that you don't want to

597
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Speaker 1: let your guy die. I remember when I work for

598
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Speaker 1: the Lakers Kurt Rambis, when you know, I was fortunate

599
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Speaker 1: to work with him when they were winning championships in

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Speaker 1: the middle two thousands. They're the Kobe Powa teams, and

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Speaker 1: Kurt was the defensive coordinator of the Lakers, and we

602
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Speaker 1: were chatting and I was like, like, what's the you know,

603
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Speaker 1: one of the best defensive teams we've seen in a while.

604
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Speaker 1: What's the secret? And he said, super easy, help the helper.

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Speaker 1: He's like, that's what basketball.

606
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Speaker 5: Is all about.

607
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Speaker 1: If you have a good team, you help the helper.

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Speaker 1: So you see your guy is giving somebody else help,

609
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Speaker 1: and now you feel as though it's your responsibility to

610
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Speaker 1: give that helper help. And that's just a constant thing.

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Speaker 1: It goes, and it happens with teams with good chemistry,

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Speaker 1: and I think it applies to this as well, because

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Speaker 1: it's Okay, I'm lad McConkey. I'm a slot receiver who's

614
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Speaker 1: clocking in at six to one, just under two hundred pounds.

615
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Speaker 1: But guess what, Kamani by Dell's coming around that corner

616
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Speaker 1: and watch me bury this deed into the grass and

617
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Speaker 1: pancake com And that's kind.

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Speaker 2: Of how I'm going to help them out.

619
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Speaker 1: Out here and whatever, let's go get it right and

620
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Speaker 1: that ends up going.

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Speaker 2: A long way, no doubt, No doubt.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of McConkey, some of the numbers are crazy, and

623
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Speaker 1: this is sort of the prep stuff that I'll use

624
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Speaker 1: during the game. But you're talking about a guy who

625
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Speaker 1: this is not These aren't rookie ranks. These are NFL ranks.

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Speaker 1: He is number five in the NFL in yards per reception,

627
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Speaker 1: like right now, behind only Jefferson, Brian Thomas, Jerry Judy,

628
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. And he is five in that he is

629
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Speaker 1: second in the NFL versus man coverage three point two

630
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Speaker 1: yards per route. This is out of the slot. Only

631
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Speaker 1: CD Lamb is better. So it's CD the best slot

632
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Speaker 1: receiver in the game. And right behind him is Lad

633
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Speaker 1: McConkie at number two. CD's going three point four yards

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Speaker 1: per route out of the out of the slot. And

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Speaker 1: this is that's the fourth highest number ever by a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you know what that isn't even out of

637
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Speaker 1: the slot. That's overall forced highest ever by a rookie,

638
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Speaker 1: behind only justin Jefferson, AJ Brown and Jamar Chase. That's

639
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: the kind of year that Ladd mcconkee is having, and

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Speaker 1: he is the second most slot receiving yards this season

641
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Speaker 1: and the most slot receiving yards over expected A plus

642
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Speaker 1: one fifty one likes. It's basically Ceedee Lamb and Ladd

643
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Speaker 1: McConkey is right behind him in terms of production out

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Speaker 1: of the slot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to Geortis Chat, Alexander, those guys that

646
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Speaker 4: Scoutland Department, the whole front office. Because I watched Ladd

647
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Speaker 4: play my brother coach at Georgia in two thousand and one,

648
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, and I watched Lad play and I

649
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Speaker 4: knew that he was a superstar at Georgia. But many

650
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 4: people going into the draft didn't have the charges choosing Lad.

651
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: Right, it was the league neighbors.

652
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: It was this guy, this guy outside receiver, and guess

653
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 4: what upstairs, they were just twiddling their thumbs, like, no,

654
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 4: we got our guy. We've done a homework, we've did

655
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 4: our due diligence, and we think he will be a

656
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: good fit for this culture, and not even for the culture,

657
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 4: for the offense. And they hit a home run with Ladd,

658
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: like you can. There's so much good things to say

659
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: about him. Excuse me, obviously, just the records he broke.

660
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 4: Obviously you talked about keenan Oullen's record that he broke,

661
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: and just weekend and week out. Dude, he's a he's

662
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 4: he's a fighter. Shirt hurt shoulder, he's out there falling

663
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: on that shoulders, getting up, still battling through.

664
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: He's a he's a charger through and through.

665
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 5: Man.

666
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: It's it's gonna be really really exciting to see him

667
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: just continue to grow.

668
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you being up great. You bring up

669
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: a great point and tipping the cap to to Joe

670
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: Ortiz because you know we talked about it. It could not

671
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: have lined up better to play the Patriots last week.

672
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: And to point out it's one thing to trade down

673
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: and draft the offensive tackle or draft a corner or something.

674
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: Receiver when you tavor, when you take, when you slide back.

675
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: And again, this is where the math just doesn't make

676
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: Sen un fortunate to work with DJ in the booth,

677
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: who you know, spent all those years in front offices.

678
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: I just said, help me make sense of if I'm

679
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: a GM, right, I have no interest in moving up

680
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: twenty seven spots in the fifth round to give up

681
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: three with all those receivers stacked up right there in

682
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: the second round, Like, receiver class, have to give me more.

683
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm not swapping with you, You're just giving me your.

684
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: Fifth round pack or something.

685
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Yet not only do they get Lad, but then with

686
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: pick one thirty seven they get Targive.

687
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: Still, you know, who's just.

688
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: Been another rookie value. Yeah.

689
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's a tough one, a tough look

690
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: for Elliot Woof. You win some, you lose some, but

691
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: he ends up drafting two receivers that had fewer yards

692
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: than LAD had in that game and fewer touchdowns this

693
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: season than LAD had in that game alone. Like, that's

694
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: how lopsided of a deal that ended up being in.

695
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: You said it, that's doing your homework and due diligence.

696
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: And also, look, man, football is circumstance. You know, you

697
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: don't know if Jalen Polk was here, if he's great,

698
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: because Justin Herbert's throwing him the ball, not a rookie

699
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: or Jacoby Brissett behind the worst offensive line in the league.

700
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, so things can be different. So it is

701
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: unfair to put it on Jalen Pole because you don't know,

702
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, what his circumstances might be if he were

703
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: able to catch passes from from Herbert. But one thing

704
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: I do know is you just alluded to it, is

705
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: they found the perfect guy. You know, I don't know

706
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: if Julie Edelman is Julian Edelman if he's not playing

707
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, but they found the perfect guy to

708
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: go with. A guy that processes that fast, is that accurate,

709
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: And it's obvious that that's what you value with justin Herbert.

710
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: He's such a quick process or an accurate thriller. And

711
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: if you're a great route runner, you have it there,

712
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: you have And I think the difference And I said

713
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: this a little bit earlier in the year, and some

714
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: people took it as Slanner and that's not what I

715
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: was getting at. When things were a little tough in

716
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: the passing game, we were like, oh, we should have

717
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: kept keen It was so stupid to get rid. And

718
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to disagree with that. I said,

719
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: because without with Keenan here, Lad's not playing where he's playing,

720
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: I said, And in twenty twenty four, Lad's better than

721
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Keenan just for what they need, that explosiveness after catch.

722
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: Keenan is incredible, He's a potential Hall of Famer. He's

723
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: going to go down as one of the great charge

724
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: of receivers of all time. But in twenty twenty three,

725
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to convince me that Keenan would

726
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: have better production and provide more to this team than

727
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: what Lad did because of just what he does after

728
00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: the catch.

729
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: In his youth.

730
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: Right, So, obviously Keenan's still having a really good year

731
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: in Chicago, but it's it's long term, right, So Joe Harp,

732
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: excuse me, Hardball comes in here, Ortiz brings him in

733
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: and they say, Okay, do we want to go older?

734
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: Do we want to go younger?

735
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 5: Right?

736
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: We believe in the guy that we're going to soon draft,

737
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: and yes, Keenan's proven. Yes, Keenan has done a lot

738
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: for this organization, but we might only get another year

739
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 4: or two out of him, right Versus, if if we

740
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 4: bank on our scouting department, we bank on you know,

741
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: us doing our due diligence and seeing a guy that

742
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: we think that can fit in the offense and have

743
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: the same impact as Keenan for another ten to twelve years.

744
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: So I think that was more of the biggest factor

745
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 4: with money at it and help Keeno was getting that bad.

746
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: And did not want to give up that. No, I'm

747
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: not giving it up. And you know what, they worked

748
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: it out. He got all his money and and the

749
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: Chargers got Lad McConkey and and now he's got thirty

750
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: percent of their receiving yards. And he is the only rookie,

751
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: as I continue to throughout some of these just stupid.

752
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: Stats, keep him coming, money to keep him coming.

753
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: He is the only rookie since nineteen seventy five with

754
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of a playoff team's receptions, receiving yards

755
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: and touchdowns. Rookies just they're not supposed to have this

756
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: type of impact, and I feel like we haven't really

757
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: seen it since Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson, like guys

758
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: that came in as rookies and immediately we're like, oh, yeah,

759
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: we're a playoff team now because this guy is here.

760
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Now we're a playoff team. And I don't think you

761
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: can I don't think you can oversell how important Lad

762
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: has been to getting this thing to open up and

763
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: getting this offense to breathe a little bit and be bare.

764
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say it. Money he gives a

765
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: passing game life. Yeah, he literally gives a passing game life.

766
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: And we talked about it earlier in the year and

767
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: you know, talking trade talk like you mentioned, but he

768
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: has come into his own and he's the number one.

769
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 4: He's Charges number one right now, and teams have to

770
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: prepare for him in that slot. And I think a

771
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 4: lot of teams are going to start playing man. When

772
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: you get into the playoffs, we're going to see a

773
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: lot more man as well. But I think the Charge

774
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: will be able to combat that with you know, one

775
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: stacks one and two, stack on bunches, three man bunches

776
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: and motions and short motions and just to find ways

777
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: to you know, get him off the line of scrimmage

778
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: because they're gonna say, you know what, this is the

779
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: top dog right now, he's not the biggest guy, and

780
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: we need to try to get our hands on.

781
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: Good luck though, because everyone.

782
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: Has shake you'll shake you and leave you.

783
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 4: And then once he catches it, he has four to

784
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: three speed exactly right, He's taking it to the house.

785
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: So let us see you, baby.

786
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: The other thing to point to in that game before

787
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: we get to the defense, Just last thing on offense

788
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: pass pro Yeah, just the level of pass pro that

789
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: the jump it took. I think people, you know, when

790
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: we look at running backs, we look at yards per

791
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: carry and explosives and touchdowns, and of course that is

792
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: incredibly important running the ball. But JK is such a

793
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: good pass protector. And man, did you put that on

794
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: film on Saturday?

795
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: And for the people at home, it's not easy.

796
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: He's sitting there as a standing duck in an A

797
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: or B gap with a six three forty pound linebacker

798
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: barreling down on you like laws of physics say that

799
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: you should lose as a running back, right, But he's

800
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: sticking his nose in there, he's laying him down, He's

801
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: protecting the pocket. He's an extension of the defensive line

802
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: and pass pro.

803
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: Right.

804
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 4: And not only is it just I have this man,

805
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: it's no. These guys are talking about protections and he

806
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: has to know if this linebacker comes, I'm bumping to

807
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: this one. If if this DNS you know, comes on

808
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: a T stunt, I got to pick up the stunt.

809
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: So it's a lot of communication. It's just not oh,

810
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: I have this lineback, the Mike linebacker. It's not how

811
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: it works, right, So you have to be smart and

812
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: not only you have to be smart in pass pro,

813
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: you have to be willing to almost die a slow death, dude,

814
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 4: because it's it's a tough job. You see when Duran

815
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: Blitz is running back.

816
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: To what Antonio gives for every running back in the NFL's.

817
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: That's going to be a highlight that finds its way

818
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: into into reels for a long time. Just one hand,

819
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: shut the sucking sack on fourth down, turnover on downs.

820
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's quickly do defense before we shift to

821
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: the Raider game real quick. Defensively, I think it starts

822
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: with Darwin and just you know, had only two tackles

823
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: in the game, two sacks on fourth down. But like

824
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about it before, but I think

825
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: now that we're kind of at the end of the campaign,

826
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: he was named a Pro Bowler today as a sharter,

827
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: and he'll end up being the All pros as well.

828
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: He'll he'll get on the All Pro team. But I

829
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: think it just goes to show you, like you just wonder,

830
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: it's like you played him up high for two three years, Like,

831
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: how do you not you saw it in twenty eighteen

832
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: when he came in as a rookie and was right

833
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: up on just the impact that he has when you

834
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: put him close to the ball.

835
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: It's where he belongs.

836
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: It's where he belongs. And don't get me wrong, Duran's

837
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 4: athletic enough to play high.

838
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: But his impact.

839
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: I just want him close to the ball.

840
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: I want when I'm watching and I'm watching the screen

841
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 4: at home, if I don't see Durwin James in.

842
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: My lens, exactly, I'm mad. Exactly, Okay, he.

843
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: Needs to be around the ball. He needs to be

844
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 4: in run fits. He needs to be showing pressure. He

845
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 4: needs to be bringing pressure, showing pressure, backing out. He's

846
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: a Swiss army knife, like you said, similar to Kyle Hamilton,

847
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: right and Jesse and Jesse coach Kyle Hamilton with the

848
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: Ravens in Baltimore, and you knew that he would come

849
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: in here and use Durwin to the similar role. And

850
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: now that he has, you've seen his resurgence like he has.

851
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: He's Durwin James again, dude. And I remember coming in

852
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 4: as a rookie, I was playing the down safety. As

853
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: soon as we dropped him, I'm like, yep, I know.

854
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's no argument. Like he came in and

855
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 4: his just physical presence, his aggressiveness, the way he tackles,

856
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 4: the way he approaches the game, and a lot of

857
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 4: I will say this about Durwain being his teammate. Not

858
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: only is he has a god gift of size and

859
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: speed and athleticism, great leader, great guy, but he's smart

860
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: and he truly loves the game. He studies, he knows

861
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: what's coming, and he makes everybody around him better. And

862
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: I was my sixth season at the time, and he

863
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: was a rookie and he made me better. Dude, he

864
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: came in and he just he when he walks into

865
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 4: the room, he gives off this energy. He gives off

866
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 4: this kind of this juice, this swag, so to call,

867
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: and not only does to do it in the classroom,

868
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: he does it on the field. And it's really reassuring

869
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: to see it.

870
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: And it's a beautiful thing to see it me.

871
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: Seeing him from a rookie playing with him alongside in

872
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: the field of battle to seeing what he's doing now

873
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: in year seven. So, man, it's shout out to you.

874
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 4: Djse you baby.

875
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: I like that you mentioned it because when the combine,

876
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, I worked the combine for a number of

877
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: years and when we would talk to college coaches or

878
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, scouts or whatever. There's the scot loves football.

879
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: You know, you know what tell me about Oh, you

880
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: know what is maybe he's not running his fast stuff.

881
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: He loves football, and it sometimes it's lip service. It's like, okay, yeah, whatever.

882
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: You know that Drwin loves football. Derwin loves football. I

883
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: think there's I'm not saying that everybody on the team

884
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: doesn't they I'm sure they all do because.

885
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: You have to do in order to take different levels.

886
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: But there's a couple of dudes that, like Rashaun Slater

887
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: loves football. He loves wrecking dudes. Like you can see

888
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: it on his face when he wrecks somebody and it

889
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: just it brings him great. Joe, I feel like Joe that.

890
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if Joel always had it, but you

891
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: can see the two of them how much they enjoy dominating,

892
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: physically dominating opponents. It's in their faces. And Derwin, like

893
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: you said, you don't even have to be on the team,

894
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: just being around him and being you know, part of

895
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: the staff, it rubs off and it really is a

896
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: tone setter. And I was happy he ended up having that.

897
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't a game that maybe a lot

898
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: of people are watching because it was, you know, out

899
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: of hand pretty pretty quickly. But on a national stage.

900
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: To put that out there was pretty darn impressive and

901
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: most definitely looking forward because you saw what happened in

902
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: the in the playoff game too, that wild card game

903
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: and the impact he had in his first ever playoff

904
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: game against Lamar Jackson in Baltimore.

905
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, seventy b's do seventy b's.

906
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 4: I was playing will linebacker, Agrient, Phillips was playing Mike linebacker.

907
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: Durham was playing strong safety. That's King at the nickel,

908
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 4: rayce On Jenkins at the free.

909
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: At the free, let's say so, it was you, Phillips, Derwin,

910
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: Uh say it again.

911
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 2: It was Demon that's right. Desmond was at the nickel,

912
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: he was nickel.

913
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: Rayson Jenkins was at the high safety.

914
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: That's right.

915
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 3: Casey Hayward and Trevor Cacy.

916
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of, Casey. Yeah, exactly, sir

917
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: seven DB's exactly. And it worked all right to the

918
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: UH to the Raiders and what's at stake here Ultimately,

919
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty much the eleventh win. It's an opportunity

920
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: to win their third straight game to carry over what

921
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: has been an apt absolutely dominant six quarters of football.

922
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: You think about it, it's an off side free play

923
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: for Drake May that gets them the touchdown. Outside of that,

924
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: the final two quarters against the Broncos, you've got one

925
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: field goal on the opening possession and then essentially a

926
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: surrender field goal. You've come about thirteen points in six quarters.

927
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: And offensively, what Herbert has done in those same six

928
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: quarters seventy one percent forty fifty six, four hundred and

929
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: forty eight yards, five touchdowns, no interceptions, while rushing six

930
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: times for fifty three yards. Like it has been complimentary football.

931
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 1: Cam Dicker has booted every field goal and actual point

932
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: he's been asking to. Is your REFC player of the week.

933
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: So going to your point at the start of this

934
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: whole thing, the idea of carrying it, just keeping it going,

935
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: that there is value. There's a there's a ton of

936
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: value in rest, but there's also a lot of value

937
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: of making six quarters ten quarters of dominant complimentary football.

938
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I agree with you.

939
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: I remember, I think it was around I don't want

940
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 4: to go back in the past.

941
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: But Mike Williams played in the game that many people

942
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: didn't think that.

943
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: He should have played in as that was twenty two two.

944
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: Exactly and he got banged up.

945
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: But it's it's all hindsight twenty twenty, right, because as

946
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: a coach, you don't want your guys to go into

947
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 4: the playoffs flat, as we talked about early, but you

948
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: also want to protect them. So that's why I'm not

949
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: paying the big bucks to make those decisions.

950
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 5: Right.

951
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: I don't know how coach Harball's gonna handle it. I

952
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 4: will say it is Raiders week, regardless of the situation.

953
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 4: The Chargers, and I do not like the Raiders, right,

954
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: So a victory against the Los Angeles, excuse me, the

955
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 4: Las Vegas Raiders.

956
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: It's always a sweet taste in your mouth.

957
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 4: But I want to see these guys maybe play maybe

958
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: a half, right, maybe play half, get their feet wet,

959
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 4: continue to get to keep their cardio, and then maybe

960
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 4: pull them.

961
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: And sit them.

962
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because I am so walk

963
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: me through it, because for me, I just say all

964
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: or nothing. It's like either playing the game because you

965
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: want to play the game, or I don't even want

966
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: to put you out Like that was the thing with

967
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: Mike Williams and you know, like you said, who the

968
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: hell am I to question coaching decisions? However, it's Mike

969
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: gets dinged. Mike has his whole career as much as

970
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: he fights in battles and wants to get out there. Unfortunately,

971
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: the way he's built, the way his body is is

972
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, genetically formed, he gets hurt and it's like,

973
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't want that guy out there for any snaps.

974
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: If you don't need to be just put him on

975
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: the So I do think you can play that game

976
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: with some guys versus others, right, just kind of based

977
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: on history. But for me, it's either you got to

978
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: play this game to win it or give him the bye. Man,

979
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: Just give him the bye, because that's the other that's

980
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: the thing with Saquon. For people that are complaining about

981
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Saquon and like, oh my god, why would you not

982
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: want like it's history, man, what happens to the team

983
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: to exactly? And so what my answer to that is is, well,

984
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: then you have to play everyone, because you can't put

985
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: Saquon out there without Lane Johnson, without without jailing it.

986
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: Like you have to give him the benefit of having

987
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: the right guys around him. So he doesn't take a

988
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: beating because two offensive linemen are sitting. You're not playing

989
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: god Ord, you're starting tight end like you're either playing

990
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: everyone or you're to me, you rest everyone.

991
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: I just think, I don't know, man.

992
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: You like getting the sweat, you like like I like it,

993
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 2: I do.

994
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: And I just think the charges are hot right now.

995
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: I don't think that there should be a reason why.

996
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.

997
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 3: Money.

998
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: It's I see the value in sitting them, and I

999
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: see the value in playing them as well. Right now,

1000
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: the value in playing them is now you win and

1001
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: then we get a certain loss on the other side.

1002
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: Now play.

1003
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're playing, might be playing in Houston, Texas

1004
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 4: versus the Ravens.

1005
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: If Cincinnati wins, they're going to pay. They're gonna all play,

1006
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go after that five.

1007
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: So it's almost I think you you wait and see

1008
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 4: and then you make your decision, because if you're playing,

1009
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: you're going after the five. You're not just playing to play,

1010
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 4: you're playing to go after the five. Now, if you're locked,

1011
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 4: as you mentioned earlier, then okay, hey, you know what,

1012
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: We'll practice you guys harder during the week. We'll push

1013
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: you a little bit more during the week and then

1014
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 4: Sundays we'll let you guys rest.

1015
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1016
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what's interesting too about this. And

1017
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number, but I want to

1018
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: say it's it's maybe fifty. It might be fifty ish

1019
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: scrimmage yards that JK needs for. I don't know what

1020
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: the numbers in, but you guys know the number is.

1021
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: I think it's it might it might be a pretty

1022
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: healthy number. It could be like five hundred k.

1023
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 3: So oh yeah, giving the ball, that's five.

1024
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: Given the ball, it's get that bag.

1025
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 5: Right.

1026
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: So now it's Herbert, it's Joe, it's Rashaan saying, hey man,

1027
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: this guy came here on a vetmental deal with an achilles,

1028
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: with a need. He's been through and everything he's been through.

1029
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: Let's go get this guy his I don't know what.

1030
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: I can't I wish I looked at up before this.

1031
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I think it's like fiftyish yards. Let's

1032
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: go get it and let's get him that extra cash.

1033
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: And that speaks to what you talked about family team

1034
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: playing for each other and how they how they go

1035
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: about doing it.

1036
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And in his story just Jk's story

1037
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: and like you said, he came in on a one

1038
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: year deal. Men and woman just bet on himself in

1039
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: the fact that he's even you know, whether the storm

1040
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: was through some injuries this season and how he's been

1041
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 4: a valuable part of this offense. If it's fifty yards

1042
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 4: money and for five.

1043
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: Hundred k, so here it is' so he's already got

1044
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: one fifty three hundred, So he's got three hundred grand

1045
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: in bonuses. He'll get an extra one hundred and fifty

1046
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: grand if he can pick up fifty eight yards. He

1047
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: needs fifty eight yards.

1048
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: Give him twenty five carries.

1049
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: To get fifty eight fifty eight yards to get one

1050
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty grand, which pretty good chunk at you so.

1051
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: Especially matter listen, no matter how much money you make

1052
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: in the NFL millions or not, one hundred and fifty

1053
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: thousand money is one hundred and fifty thousand.

1054
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that'll be interesting to see how how they

1055
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: want to play it. Well, you know that the Pro Bowlers.

1056
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Khalil Mack, Congratulations to Derwin James, congratulate. I

1057
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: thought they were gonna overlook Rashaan Slater. I'm glad they

1058
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: didn't because he's been one of the best left tackles

1059
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: in the league. At the same time, you feel like

1060
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: a handful of guys got cheated.

1061
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 5: Scott.

1062
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: We talked about it, Scott Matt Locke. I think you

1063
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: absolutely could have made a case for Lad mcconkee over

1064
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: Nico Collins, considering Nico was busted up.

1065
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: For a pretty good chunk, maybe six weeks.

1066
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: Exactly of the season. That one was a little lopsided

1067
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: there day on insteatus, iire Franklin. I get it, you're

1068
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: taking the guys with the top tackles. Franklin has the reputation.

1069
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: Rokwan does as well. But to me, it's like anybody

1070
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: that watched the Chargers knows even though the interception numbers,

1071
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: the sack numbers, the force fumbles, might not be that

1072
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: this guy is what you say about Derwin. You want

1073
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 1: to see him in the frame. Dwn's in every frame,

1074
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: every frame. At the end of the play, he's right

1075
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: in the middle of it. So thought he had an

1076
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to be put in there as well. All right,

1077
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: So we gonna hop over to the couch, get ready

1078
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: for Raider week, and come back next week figure out

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Speaker 1: All right, ch lel, Let's bring them in eight touchdowns

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Speaker 1: heck of a season. Chargers punch their ticket to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs against the Patriots on Saturday this past Saturday. Quentin

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Speaker 1: Johnston joining us right now, give us an idea of

1102
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: kind of with the task that was at hand against

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00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: the Patriots, going out executing in the dominant fashion that

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00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: you did, and what it meant going into that game

1105
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: knowing what was ahead of you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.

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00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 7: Really just really just keeping the main thing, the main thing,

1108
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 7: and that's just going out playing our you know, besmarrianon football,

1109
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 7: put putting together four four quarters and you know, you know,

1110
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 7: winning the game and just doing it, you know, as

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00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 7: a team.

1112
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: Give us an idea maybe, you know, if you can,

1113
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: like what's happened these last six quarters offensively, I mean,

1114
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: it's just been crazy that the buzz saw the second

1115
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: half of the Fronco game through those i think seven

1116
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: consecutive possessions with points against the Patriots. Does it feel different?

1117
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: Is there something going on out there kind of what's

1118
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: what's you're feeling on it?

1119
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 5: I mean, so honestly, everybody just clicking.

1120
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 7: Everybody's just you know, bounced a positive energy, you know,

1121
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 7: you know, off of each other. Somebody makes a bad play,

1122
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 7: be quick to turn around. Pick them back up and

1123
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 7: then you know, just keep moving forward. Because I feel

1124
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 7: like I feel like even even even a long time ago,

1125
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 7: when we're kind of you know, up and down, we

1126
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 7: always we always knew what type offense we were. We

1127
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 7: always knew the point we wanted to get to, and

1128
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Speaker 7: it was only a matter of time until we got

1129
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Speaker 7: to that.

1130
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Speaker 4: What can you tell us is the biggest difference from

1131
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: year one as a rookie to year two with eight

1132
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 4: touchdowns and being a really really big part of this offense.

1133
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, for me, For me personally, it was just it

1134
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 7: was just having that experience under my belt. You know, obviously,

1135
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 7: everybody wants to come in and just make a big

1136
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 7: impact right right away. Obviously I had you know, aspers

1137
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 7: and stuff of doing that right off, you know, obviously

1138
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 7: didn't work that way, but I feel like with that experience,

1139
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 7: just just just being you know, you know, putting you know,

1140
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 7: certain situations and then you know, just being around guys

1141
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 7: last year Keenan uh, Mike, you know, obviously learning a

1142
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 7: lot of stuff from justin to kind of just taking

1143
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 7: all that into account going into going into the off

1144
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 7: season on you know, what I need to work on

1145
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 7: and kind of just applying that you know, everything that

1146
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 7: I worked on to my game going into this.

1147
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Year, give us an idea of just kind of what

1148
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: coach Law has meant and how maybe getting coach up

1149
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: a little different or how different it is, and maybe

1150
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: kind of what he's helped you work on to kind

1151
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: of put together the kind of year you've had.

1152
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 5: Ye you know, you know, obviously, you know every coach

1153
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 5: is different.

1154
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 7: He came in, he came in, he came in with

1155
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 7: a certain style, so he always I mean, he had

1156
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 7: he had a certain style that he wanted us to play,

1157
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 7: and he kind of he kind of just let us

1158
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 7: know that up front he was he was he was

1159
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 7: real firm with everything that he wanted and what he

1160
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 7: expected out of us, and and and he would always

1161
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 7: like reassure us that, uh, he has he has all

1162
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 7: the belief in the world, and it's all the confidence

1163
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 7: in the world with us. So just just having that

1164
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 7: type of energy at the forefront of the receiver room,

1165
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 7: I feel like kind of just goes around the room

1166
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 7: and you know, like I said before, everybody lifting each

1167
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 7: other up and him being him being the main one.

1168
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 7: I feel like I feel like that that will just

1169
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 7: put a lot of confidence in a player because you

1170
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 7: know what shuld deal with me, and you know, it

1171
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 7: just obviously just makes everything flow, you know, a lot smooth.

1172
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: You mentioned confidence and playing in the lead for nine years.

1173
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: I know all about it. You know, if you're you're confident,

1174
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 4: your play can be here. If you're not, your play

1175
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: can be here. Right, So, like, what's the biggest thing?

1176
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 4: Just being a young player and having ups and downs

1177
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: and just having that confidence and being able to have

1178
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 4: that confidence.

1179
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: How big has that been for you?

1180
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been huge because I mean, like you said,

1181
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 7: if you if you don't if you don't have a

1182
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 7: lot of confidence, you can be down here and out

1183
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 7: of And I have been in that position a few times.

1184
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 7: But but just but just but just always going back

1185
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 7: and realizing who you are and realizing that that that

1186
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 7: you're here for a reason, and kind of just reassuring

1187
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 7: that confidence you know, and yourself. I mean, I mean,

1188
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 7: because at the same time, if nobody really leading you,

1189
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, sure, if you're believe in yourself,

1190
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 7: that's all that really matters. And that's just you know,

1191
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 7: especially last year, that's just something I have to keep

1192
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 7: telling myself, something that I have to keep working through

1193
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 7: you know, you know, you know obviously you know, reaching

1194
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 7: out to some people at the same time, but at

1195
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 7: the end of the day, just having that confidence of

1196
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 7: myself to go out and perform.

1197
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Talk about your former teammate and well, actually, no, your

1198
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: former teammate and current teammate. I mean, Darius Davis cost

1199
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: nearly two touched two seasons without getting a touchdown reception,

1200
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: and man did he announce himself with these last two

1201
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: especially laying out for that catch up. Just share with

1202
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: us kind of what kind of you know, ability Darius

1203
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: had at Texas Tech and just to stop Texas TCU, Yeah,

1204
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: I can do it, though, I can do the hard

1205
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: problem tu and just you know, maybe why it took

1206
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: a second and what we've seen these last two weeks

1207
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: I think is certainly going to make some some defenses

1208
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: have to think a lot harder about this receiving court

1209
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: now moving forward into the postseason.

1210
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, you know, like obviously I've been with

1211
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 7: you know, d Davids Stens around twenty twenty, so all right,

1212
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 7: I didn't know what type of player he was not, not

1213
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 7: not just as a returner. I feel like, I feel

1214
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 7: like a lot of people just thinking him solely as

1215
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 7: a returner, which you know, obviously he's proven it out

1216
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 7: that he's way more than that. And I'm just you know,

1217
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 7: you know, I'm just so happy and excited for him

1218
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 7: that he's finally getting that light and and being put

1219
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 7: in that position to make players because we always because

1220
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 7: like we all know he can make players. We see

1221
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 7: him that practice, you know, day in day out, even

1222
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 7: last year when he wasn't getting you know, as many

1223
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 7: looks as he would like to, but you know, he

1224
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 7: was always you know, still doing this thing at returner.

1225
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 5: But you know, just to.

1226
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 7: See him come in and do what I already knew,

1227
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 7: you know, personally that he can do, it's just huge.

1228
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 7: And and then going back to what I said about

1229
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 7: you know, us in the receiver room just having a

1230
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 7: lot of positive energy bouncing off each other, you know,

1231
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 7: you know, you know, any time he scores or anything,

1232
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 7: I mean, any of the guys for that matter of scores,

1233
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 7: I'm uh, meet me and the guys. The first one

1234
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 7: was in the N Zone dance and stuff like that

1235
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 7: just renassured him, uh you know, to him that that

1236
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 7: that yeah, you can do this, you can do this

1237
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 7: at this level. And then and then just for him

1238
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 7: to do it, I mean, I mean it's a little

1239
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 7: extra special to me because you know, we we we

1240
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 7: went to the same college. I remember when I got drafted,

1241
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 7: came up here the next day, coach commins like we

1242
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 7: got him. I'm like, that's cool, we got who And

1243
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 7: he was like, man, just come up to the facility

1244
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 7: and see and then like as they were calling him

1245
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 7: and like you know, like telling him the news. Like

1246
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 7: I was able to jump on there and congratulate him

1247
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 7: and stuff like that. So it was just, you know,

1248
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 7: just a big moment for you know, both of us obviously,

1249
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 7: and just to see him finally getting that spotlight on him,

1250
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 7: you know, as a receiver shoes too.

1251
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: Could I could it have been any worse? Check the

1252
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: worst one? That's the worst one one, the worst one.

1253
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got you, Yeah, I appreciate.

1254
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: So this is your two with Justin Herbert.

1255
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 4: And we obviously know his physical his physical talent, but

1256
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 4: what a lot of people, and I'm sure the teammates

1257
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 4: have seen his his.

1258
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: Leadership ability being more vocal. What have you seen from him?

1259
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 4: And how big has his leadership ability jumped from year

1260
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 4: one tier two?

1261
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean just I mean, I mean it

1262
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 7: always surprised me how like I like short minding. He

1263
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 7: can be as far as like, Okay, bad play happens,

1264
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 7: whether I you know, mess up on something or you know,

1265
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 7: you know, just do something that wasn't right. It's like

1266
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 7: instantly when I come back to we need you for

1267
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 7: the next play, I'm not worried about that. And it's like, okay,

1268
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 7: bet you know we end up executing, you know, or

1269
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 7: the drive scoring or whatever, we go back to the

1270
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 7: sideline revisit it. But but it's just it's just always

1271
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 7: I keep going back to confidence, I mean, because that's

1272
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 7: that's what it is. Confidence and you know, just having

1273
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 7: just having those guys to you know, kind of just

1274
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 7: reassure you about yourself and that he still believes in

1275
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 7: me and you know, believes in us. I mean, I mean, shoot,

1276
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 7: just that alone. And it's not even in the games.

1277
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 7: Is that practice At practice we mess something up, okay,

1278
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 7: we'll just we'll just go back to it during special

1279
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 7: teams period or you know, even after practice or if

1280
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 7: he wants us to come out, you know, before practice,

1281
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 7: we can get it in, you know, and and just

1282
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 7: make sure that's perfected. So we all, you know, you know,

1283
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 7: like on one accord and I'll have that confidence in

1284
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 7: each other to go out and next.

1285
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: Cute if we uh if we take touchdown, let's just

1286
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: take kind of touchdowns off the table. Kind of your

1287
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: favorite catches that you can think about from the year.

1288
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: I think I want to say, was it last week

1289
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: or was it the Dead game that I think it

1290
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: was a third down catch? You're probably like maybe six

1291
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: seven yards I think short of the sticks draft?

1292
00:52:59,239 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: Was that last week?

1293
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: I think can you drag someone like six seven yardsticks?

1294
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: Or might have been Denver game? Might have you know

1295
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: what you're talking about.

1296
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: It was left.

1297
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 5: Sideline and yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah, Like.

1298
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: Do those things stick with you, like those particular catches, Yeah, yeah.

1299
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure because I mean, I mean,

1300
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 7: I mean because like a lot of those sketches are

1301
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 7: like for for third downs and those were you know,

1302
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 7: big heaches that obviously you know, you know, keep the

1303
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 7: drive a love, so a lot a lot of those

1304
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 7: catches are you know, uh you know he was from me,

1305
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 7: but you know, kind of revisiting, you know, the touchdowns,

1306
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 7: I think, uh, I think my first one this season

1307
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 7: is probably my favorite. The really yeah, against uh Carolina.

1308
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 7: I mean honestly, like how like he had great inside leverage.

1309
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 7: I was on the outside and justin just threw a

1310
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 7: ball like where honestly only I can catch it. I

1311
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 7: just ducked under them, kind of called it like right

1312
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 7: under them. It was just perfectble I gave. I gave

1313
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 7: you know, uh, you know, I gave all the you know,

1314
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 7: uplory to him in that moment. But yeah, you know

1315
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 7: that was probably my favorite right there.

1316
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: That was your favorite. My favorite one had to be.

1317
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 4: I don't know what week it was what you called it,

1318
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: and you showed the world the athletic ability.

1319
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah you wuld Was that just something you did as

1320
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: a kid.

1321
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 5: It wasn't. I was completely spontaneous.

1322
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 3: Like you didn't practice that in practice.

1323
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: It was like when I get in the game, because

1324
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 4: I know when I was playing as a DV handshake

1325
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 4: and we make a play, I'm doing the celebration. Was

1326
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: it I'm doing this backflip when I get it when

1327
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: it ends on on prime time?

1328
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 3: Or did it just happen?

1329
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 7: Honestly, it just happened because I mean, like usually usually

1330
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 7: like I have like a little song in my head

1331
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 7: that I kind of you know, I want the door

1332
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 7: like one of my homeboys and takes me like he like,

1333
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 7: let me see this or that I scored right then,

1334
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 7: and I'm just like I forgot what I was even

1335
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 7: thinking about.

1336
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 5: And I just looked like, I cause like if you

1337
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 5: go back and look, I kind of palled.

1338
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 7: I was like, I'm about to hit it back flip,

1339
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 7: and it was just it was just you know, in

1340
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 7: that moment, and then she was just ran.

1341
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 5: Up to me, was like okay.

1342
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 7: Then it was like yeah, so yeah, so yeah, I

1343
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 7: I don't think anybody was expecting that, which made that,

1344
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 7: you know, you know that much better. That's my first

1345
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 7: time pulling that out, uh Yester, that practice.

1346
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 5: No, it was just you know, just a little yeah.

1347
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1348
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: I think if I had to pick one, since we're ald,

1349
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a Denver game right where it was

1350
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: scramble drill in the back of the end zone and

1351
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: just like, how long does it take or does it

1352
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: take long at all to kind of establish that sort

1353
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: of chemistry to sort of know, okay, we got to

1354
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: be on the same page here play it's broken down.

1355
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: What was called ain't working, and now I've got to

1356
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: help to make up for it.

1357
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does.

1358
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 7: And then and then that goes along with just the

1359
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 7: quarterback having confidence in you. But I'm at the same

1360
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 7: time with some little scramble drills and stuff like that.

1361
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 7: It's just it's just excuse me, just getting to just

1362
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 7: getting to awake as fast as you can where where

1363
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 7: there's you know, I mean, I mean, it's always gonna

1364
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 7: be somebody on you, but where you got, you know,

1365
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 7: just that much space for them to fit into.

1366
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 5: And then it's just it's just.

1367
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 7: All about giving them, you know, your eyes, because if

1368
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 7: you're not, if you're just running freely and you're not

1369
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 7: looking at them, beging through it and you not even

1370
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 7: see it. So it's honestly just getting to a spotis

1371
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 7: fast you can and just like literally just staring them

1372
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 7: down at TC's and just letting them know you up.

1373
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 3: So at the receiver position.

1374
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 4: A lot of people back home, I think it's just

1375
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 4: about being fast, athletic and being able to catch. But

1376
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 4: a lot of times they don't understand is it's about

1377
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 4: a smart game, right.

1378
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: So you can have a cover two.

1379
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: Look and your route could depend on if the middlefield

1380
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: is open, middlefield's closure converting, if it's one on one

1381
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 4: of the outside and it's pressed, you might run a fade.

1382
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: If he's off, he's playing, you're running a catch. Right,

1383
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 4: So explain how much goes into not only being a

1384
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 4: physical gifted athlete at the receiver position in the league,

1385
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 4: but being mentally and having the mental capacity because defenses

1386
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 4: in DB's informations.

1387
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: Changed post snap.

1388
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 4: Right, So explain how how you have to be so

1389
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 4: locked in for the film study, you know, being on

1390
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 4: the same one a chord with your quarterback and just

1391
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 4: playing the game within the game.

1392
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's I mean, I mean, that's almost I'm not

1393
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 7: gonna say more important, but but but definitely neck and

1394
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 7: neck with being just as important as being fast, strong, twitchy,

1395
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 7: I mean, because I mean you can have all that

1396
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 7: and if you if you don't convert on the cover too,

1397
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 7: I mean you're covered. You can't really do anything with

1398
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 7: that athletic ability because he's not throwing a ball to you.

1399
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 7: So I mean, I mean, as much time as we

1400
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 7: put on the field, like all of that, all of

1401
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 7: that comes with being being just locked in the meetings,

1402
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 7: locked in after meetings, calling and coaching and like hey,

1403
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 7: coaching week, you know, go back to the room and

1404
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 7: just you know, recover this.

1405
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 5: I don't.

1406
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 7: I don't really get it because that's the main thing too.

1407
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 7: Its just it's just like you can get something, but

1408
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 7: we have so many players and we got so much

1409
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 7: stuff to think of. It's I mean, I mean, the

1410
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 7: stuff we learned on Tuesday can be easily forgotten on Thursdays.

1411
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 5: So just making sure you're going back, you know, over it.

1412
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 7: It is just this, it's just some of my dad

1413
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 7: us to tell me all the time, and that's just

1414
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 7: being a student of the game. Really really just honing

1415
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 7: it in, locking in because I mean, like I said,

1416
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 7: like I'm like, I'm gifted. I can jump, run, you know,

1417
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 7: and do whatever. But I mean, i mean, if I

1418
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 7: don't know what I'm doing and and and how to

1419
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 7: do it, I'm I'm you know, I'm close to users.

1420
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's that's that's huge for sure.

1421
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: What about blocking in terms of what's what's asked of you,

1422
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: how you've refined your your blocking techniques, how much you

1423
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: like it. I think about lads block on PJ lock.

1424
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, there.

1425
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: Was some the mini movie we got to sell you

1426
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: guys celebrated into the Pancakes. Yeah, kind of walking through

1427
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: blocking and like how how important that is and how

1428
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: much better of a blocker you are now in the

1429
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: NFL than then maybe you were asked to do it.

1430
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, No, it's it's huge. I

1431
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 7: mean because like I mean, who you're blocking for. You're

1432
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 7: either blocking for one of your receivers they got the ball,

1433
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 7: or or the running back or the quarterback or somebody's

1434
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 7: coming out the backfield. If you don't block for them,

1435
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 7: now y'all out yeah, y'all kind of thrown off.

1436
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 5: And I was like, Okay, you don't want to block

1437
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 5: for me?

1438
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 7: Okay, you know you know it's going to see uh

1439
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 7: you know what happens on this next play. But that's

1440
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 7: just about trust. That's just about you know, pure you know,

1441
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 7: will or want to you know, for your teammates. I mean,

1442
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 7: if you don't want to block and get your teammates

1443
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 7: more of yours a touchdown and just you know, you know,

1444
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 7: possibly can spring up the huge highlight for you know,

1445
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 7: JK or Gus, you know, even justin if he you know,

1446
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 7: breaks on the run, all you needs is to keep blocking.

1447
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 5: You know, they're getting getting the hold and breaking.

1448
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 7: So that's just that's just pure one two and that's

1449
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 7: just pure attitude and you know, love for the game

1450
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 7: and love for your teammates, you know, you know, you know,

1451
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 7: honestly working working butt off of them, and not only

1452
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 7: when you get the ball, because I mean becausebviously you

1453
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 7: get the ball, you want you want them to block

1454
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 7: for you. So it's kind of just vice versas. But

1455
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 7: you know, that's you know, HU was very important. But yeah,

1456
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 7: my role has changed a lot obviously being up here.

1457
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 7: You know, surprisingly as a receiver you have to actually

1458
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 7: block too, So you know.

1459
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 5: At TCU. At TCU, I did.

1460
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 7: Not as much, not as much as I did up

1461
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 7: here though, And that's just that's just something that I

1462
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 7: recognize coming up here kind of just kind of just

1463
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 7: trying to check off every box of Okay, I'm am,

1464
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 7: I doing this, right?

1465
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 5: Am? I doing that?

1466
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 7: Right?

1467
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 5: Am?

1468
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 7: I putting enough effort in this area opposed to this

1469
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 7: area blocking. Blocking honestly wasn't one of my strongest suit

1470
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 7: coming in. But but but like I said, it's just

1471
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 7: a pure one two and I just had to I

1472
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 7: just had to dial and just just that much more

1473
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 7: and and and just you know, get my you know,

1474
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 7: hand hand placement right, get my technique right, getting low enough,

1475
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 7: not just approaching to d be super high and then

1476
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 7: getting thrown off my marketing. It's like you just in

1477
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 7: the way now you're not really even doing anything. So yeah,

1478
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 7: I feel like I feel like it's changed a lot

1479
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 7: up here, but it's been good.

1480
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 4: Cur You're such a physically gifted athlete and your your

1481
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 4: yak is one of your biggest strong into your game.

1482
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: But coach, I've seen you do jet sweeps.

1483
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 4: IVE seen them on screens with you, drag routes, I've

1484
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: seen you score deep balls as a receiver, like can

1485
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 4: if you can pinpoint one thing that you enjoy the

1486
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 4: most as how you how you used right? Is it

1487
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 4: a deep ball? Is it a short pass? Or I

1488
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: get my hands on the ball and showcase my yack.

1489
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 5: Right?

1490
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 4: What is the biggest thing you say as a receiver

1491
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: that's so gifted that can do a lot.

1492
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, I feel like I feel like it'll

1493
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 7: be it'll be a little a little short stuff where

1494
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 7: I can, you know, show off a little bit. I

1495
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 7: had a I had I had just like a little

1496
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 7: smoke rout last week and you know, I I've seen

1497
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 7: him the finish seeing the sticks. I'm like, I'm definitely

1498
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 7: getting past him, so you know, gave a little move outside,

1499
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 7: cut back inside, you know, got off the block and

1500
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 7: got the first down. So just so just so just

1501
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 7: being able to showcase showcase that whenever I can, you know,

1502
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 7: especially as being a big or more taller receiver, that's

1503
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 7: not always that's not always common just to be you know,

1504
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 7: you know, twitching and stuff like that. So it's always

1505
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 7: so it's always fun to put that on this play

1506
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 7: for sure.

1507
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: Yes, last thing for you before the microphone attacked. Uh,

1508
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: we see a lot of the guys around the facility

1509
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: wearing like their sweatshirts that have like the score from

1510
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: a big game or you know she the Dick or

1511
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: the you know the Walter Payton man of your T

1512
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: shirts guys or like it seems cool, right and it

1513
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: feels like you guys are sort of into that kind

1514
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: of take us through just the little things that maybe

1515
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: have been added with this staff like that, and why

1516
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes the smallest things.

1517
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 7: Yeah okay, yeah, so I mean I mean, I mean

1518
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 7: so with the with the shirts and stuff like that,

1519
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 7: and then with with with like little things we get

1520
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 7: like you know, like after the game for you know,

1521
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 7: maybe not necessarily being the player player of the game,

1522
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 7: but having a key block or something like I mean,

1523
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 7: like I'm like, we coach Hall about like nothing goes unrecognized,

1524
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 7: so he always gives us some type of reward or

1525
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 7: some type of some type of shout out, you know,

1526
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 7: to the team.

1527
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 5: So everybody, you know, recognized, recognize that.

1528
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 7: But with the shirts, like you said, it's just the

1529
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 7: little things that kind of just gets everybody into it

1530
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 7: and keeps everybody into them. So it's not we're not

1531
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 7: like we're just going through the motions and just doing

1532
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 7: the same thing every day, keeps everything up. And then

1533
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 7: like obviously with the with the Cam shirts, that's just

1534
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 7: purely showing support and love for our teammate and and

1535
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 7: you know, everybody's everybody's into it. Everybody showing that we

1536
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 7: want to be here, showing that we want to to

1537
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 7: play and fight for our teammates and play for this team.

1538
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 7: And then uh, you know, you know the no elevator

1539
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 7: that's my boy send me. Uh yeah, yeah, he made

1540
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 7: He made throws for everybody and stuff like that is

1541
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 7: literally like just passing them out And I didn't even

1542
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 7: realize he had everybody's number and stuff on the on

1543
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 7: the on the other side, So I me know, shoot,

1544
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 7: anytime with with stuff like that, one of my teammates

1545
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 7: has a has a brand or a hat or I mean,

1546
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 7: I mean, even if it's just like a little shirt

1547
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 7: or just just anything, we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna

1548
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 7: for sure sport it word and then you know, just

1549
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 7: sort of show support for them.

1550
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: The elevator.

1551
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 5: How I took an elevator since oh since the hat? No,

1552
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 5: I can't. You can't do it. You can't do it.

1553
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: All right, we get out on this last one. Julia

1554
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: was talking about it earlier. Just nobody's healthy right now.

1555
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: It's just the way that the life is in the NFL, Like,

1556
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: how do you feel right now in terms of it? Like,

1557
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: what do it feels like the team has really sort

1558
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: of hit a bit of a stride. Yeah, Like what

1559
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: kind of condition do you do you feel like you're

1560
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: in going into postseason this week?

1561
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 7: Eight ten and he's hurt playing I'm good, I mean,

1562
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, I mean, I feel like I

1563
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 7: feel like I feel as good as I can be.

1564
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 7: You know, you know, you know to this point, we

1565
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 7: do you know, obviously that's some guys nicked up and

1566
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 7: stuff like that, but you know, fighting fighting as hard

1567
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 7: as they can to get back with the team, because

1568
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 7: that's just how much we we we love and appreciate

1569
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 7: each other around here, just just getting back. Even if

1570
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 7: even if you still feeling a little acre pain, we

1571
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 7: still we still you know for the most part, mans

1572
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 7: to you know, get out to practice and if you

1573
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 7: miss a few days of practice, come back for a

1574
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 7: walk through and makes you just locked in the meeting

1575
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 7: so you'll be ready for game time for sure.

1576
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: Well, good luck against the Raiders, good luck going into

1577
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: the postseason. We appreciate you taking some some time out

1578
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: queue and congratulations in a hack of a season.

1579
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 5: I appreciate you. Thank you.

1580
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: All right, it's going to do it for us on

1581
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: this Chargers Weekly when we're back next week, we'll be

1582
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: previewing whichever opponent will be unfortunate enough to have drawn

1583
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers in the wild card.

1584
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 5: Right step