WEBVTT - Takeaways from the 2025 Open Championship with Trevor Immelman 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.520 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.920 When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:05.880 And when I find my. 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.920 Ball in a bright egg Friday egg, the dreaded Frida egg, 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.680 Frida egg, fridagg brid egg Lie, I'm about ready to 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:14.080 run off with the hump course. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:42.280 Welcome back to another Friday Golf podcast. I am your host, 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:46.680 Andy Johnson. Uh, we are done with major season. And 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.080 what a conclusion the Open Championship, the one hundred and 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.040 fifty third Open Championship at. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:53.360 Royal Port Rush. 0:00:53.560 --> 0:01:01.320 Scottie Scheffler with an absolutely dominating performance, just ran circles 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.520 around the field. He wins by four shots. He gets 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.720 to seventeen under, beats Harris English by four, Chris got 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.440 her up by five, and a host of players at 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.560 minus eleven by six shots. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.720 You know, Sunday was an interesting day. He obviously had. 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:22.119 A big lead going in and kind of put his 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.720 foot on the gas right away and and made it 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.160 really tough for people to come back. I think we're 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.479 going to talk with Trevor Immelman here, the great Trevor 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:36.640 m one for a period about Scotty's dominance. But now 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:41.119 he's on He's got his fourth major championship, obviously gets 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:45.760 his second of the year, and is ascending the levels 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.600 of greatness, ascending up the list of the greatest golfers ever, 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.160 which you know, it's pretty crazy to think about. This 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.200 is this run, This is kind of three year run 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.000 that he's on. How long can it go? The level 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.960 of play is as high as we've seen since Tiger Woods, 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.880 and where he gets to is kind of going to 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.720 be the pervasive question in golf. We obviously have a 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:16.040 long time until the next major championship, but he will 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.920 be going next year for the career Grand Slam at 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.400 the US Open at Shinnecock, a venue that will surely 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.440 set up quite well for his game. He has transformed 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.680 himself from a bad putter on the PJ Tour by 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:35.680 PGA Tour standards to a very good, bordering on elite putter. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.040 The putter was really exceptional at Royal Port Rush. It 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:44.120 was it was what pushed him to just separating and 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.960 lifting from the field with his usual exceptional tea degree 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:53.040 in game. So Scotti Scheffler is your champion golfer. The 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:57.120 year he secures his second major of the year, he's 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.880 going to be kind of I would I would say 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.600 most likely the player of the year. And then when 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.880 you think about who the best player was in twenty 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.000 twenty five, I think, you know, when you look at 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.239 the Majors in totality, we'll we'll probably do a podcast 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.680 in the near future, you know, kind of talking debriefing 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.799 the entire major seasons. That memory, the lasting memory will 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.760 be Rory at the Masters, but a story kind of 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.600 one bee will be Scottie Scheffler's ascension up, you know, 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.480 going from two to four majors, this big time and 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:34.480 what it sets up for for next year is fascinating. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.880 So we'll get into Scottie in great detail with Trevor here. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:44.320 But thank you guys for the major year coming joining 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:48.320 us with for these these recap shows with Trevor. They've 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.160 been really fun to do and and well we got 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.760 our last one here. Maybe we'll have them come back 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.680 for something else, maybe Ryder, a couple we'll see. But 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:04.400 today's podcast and this week this Open Championship coverage is 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:09.360 brought to you by Mercedes Benz. 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So go visit MBUSA dot com and 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.279 thanks to Mercedes Benz. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.200 Let's get to Trevor a moment. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:26.520 You guys must have had some some weird hours this 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.359 week recording the pods and stuff. Take us through that 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:29.960 a little bit. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.240 Yeah, I mean that you talked about that at the 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.159 start of this. You want to know, you want to 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.720 know what time we're recording podcasts. That's how you want 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:38.839 to start this podcast. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.040 I'll find it interesting number one, but I also find 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:46.400 it really cool and admirable because you know, there's a 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.159 lot of fans out there that I want to listen 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.640 to the fried egg and the shotgun start and don't 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.799 always realize what it takes to get that in the inbox. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.719 Well, you know, we thank you. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.680 Everybody should be you know, saluting us, because you know, 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:08.039 it's really there's not many people. There's not many people 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.880 that could do this work, right. I'm obviously joking it's 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.840 like a frontline healthcare worker, you know. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.679 No, but I'm not comparing it to that, Andy, But still, 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.000 you've got team members all over, You've got guys on site, 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.640 and then you're in California and PJS in New York. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:29.160 I mean there's some moving pots to that. And as 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.760 a hardcore golf band, I'm appreciative of it. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.560 Well, you know, it's it's early mornings. I actually have 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.680 grown to love. People think I'm crazy. I've grown to 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:46.600 like love covering the Open on the West Coast. I 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.360 get up at two to three am and then I 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:55.080 just I just lock in, and I think one of 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.440 the great things about it versus other major championship weeks, 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.280 like they become others all consumer. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.960 Weeks, like you're you're basically just you. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.000 Know, if you're at home or if you're on site, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.840 all you're doing is covering a major And I think 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.160 the thing that I like about the Open in California 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.640 is that when like two or three pm rolls around, 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:20.120 I've worked a full day and then I get I 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:24.080 get to like unplug and hang out with my family, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.040 do stuff around the house, and have like some normalcy 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.080 in life, and then I go to bed really early. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.360 Usually when my my my five year old goes to bed, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.679 I basically just go to bed at the same time 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.520 and then wake up and do it again. But you know, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.960 it's funny. I was thinking about this a little bit 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:48.080 in the context of the week. My wife and my 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:53.480 wife and kid left last night or yesterday, and you 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.240 know it's funny. I'm you know, just by myself at 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.240 my house and uh and I found myself. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.080 All I was doing was thinking about golf. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.440 Welcome to my world. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.960 And I think about like what Scott I think, like 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.839 a lot of things came out with what Scotti said 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.840 this week about like you know how he he he said, 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.680 you know, I'm not doing this for other people. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:22.600 You know, I have this balance. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.800 I you know, I think like one of the things 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:30.199 about golf at a high level and for anybody that 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.600 becomes like a golf sicko is it's all consuming, and 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.800 I think that's actually for a pro golfer. One of 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:42.280 the most challenging aspects of pro golf is the consumption 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:47.240 that it takes up in your mind and the I 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.920 think it's challenging, you know, if you if you flip 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.520 the question and ask people ask you know a bunch 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.440 of pro golfers was one of the more challenging aspects 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.600 of their job. Besides hitting shots under pressure and playing 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:06.559 good golf, it's turning turning it off at night because 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.199 it it does consume you. And I think like it's 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.560 one of the things about you know, the commentary that 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:17.560 Scotti made about the game that I think it got 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.280 taken multiple ways, and I think you can interpret it 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.839 a lot of different ways, but the the reality of. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:28.480 I think it's a way. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:33.439 For him to to kind of compartmentalize and get away 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.440 from the sport a little bit. When this sport like 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.640 the hardest ask. One of the hardest aspects of it 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.000 is just what it can do to your mind when 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:42.920 you're not playing it. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:43.840 Yeah. 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:50.840 Well, I was seriously impressed with with the comments that 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.480 he gave those those nuggets that he threw out their 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:58.560 pre tournament and it's so interesting on social media as 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:03.840 as a wild play, and it's interesting to see how, 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.240 you know, what side of the equation people fall on. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:13.000 But I thought there was so much nuanced, so many 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:17.320 layers to that statement that he gave that that I 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:22.600 thought was so cool for a minute for him to 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:27.200 take us inside his mind and the way he goes 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.199 about things, whether you like it or not. I mean, 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:35.960 this guy is he's already great. He's already Hall of Fame. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.760 He's already you know. My son asked me last night, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.320 I think he's now top ten to ever live, and 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.760 I was like, I mean, it's we're probably not quite 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:49.520 there yet. I would say he's he's he's edging in 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.839 on top twenty, but at this clip, he's going to 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.680 be top ten to ever live at some point unless 0:11:54.720 --> 0:12:01.040 something crazy happens. And for him to pull back the 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.160 curtain for a few minutes and just take us inside 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.559 how he goes about things, I thought was so special. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.560 And to understand the different layers of how he goes 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:18.120 to think about, how he goes about thinking about his 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.720 job and his game, and how he wants to improve, 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.280 how he manages his life, how he manages the pressure 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.440 and stress of being in the spotlight every time he 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.120 pitches up at a golf tournament. I rarely appreciated that 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:37.680 as a fan, and I appreciated that as someone who 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:42.840 you know, has touched some sort of popularity at different 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.520 points in my life and figuring out how to deal 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.680 with that. You know, I'm not quite sure that human 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:58.000 beings are perfectly capable of handling such intense fame. I mean, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.560 you look at the megastar throughout the years. Gosh, it's 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:08.599 tough to deal with that mentally. And you know, basically, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.360 to me, if you had to boil it down to 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:15.800 one statement or one point on those few minutes that 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.640 he gave us, the thing that I took from it 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:24.200 was he doesn't his identity is not wrapped up in 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:28.600 his golf score. And I can't even begin to tell 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:34.880 you how incredibly healthy that is, because I've lived on 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:39.120 the other side of that, where you do tie your 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.000 identity to your golf score, and it's no way to live, 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:46.760 I could promise you. Because this sport is so demanding, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.920 so hard. You're isolated and alone in so many different 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.480 ways that when you start to run down that rabbit 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:59.840 hole of tying your identity to your score and where 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:03.600 you finished. It's not a fun way to live. And 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:08.800 this guy has gone in the complete opposite direction. And 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.320 I think that's one of the main reasons why he 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:16.959 is just completely unshakable. I mean, this is a dude 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.960 that was stretching in a jail cell in case he 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.640 had an opportunity to tear it up in the third 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.800 round of the PGA or the second round of the PGA, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.280 whichever round it was. My memory fails me now, but 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:34.240 he is just becoming a flat out assassin. A flat 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:38.040 out assassin. He's now four for four converting fifty four 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:42.680 hole leads in major championships. He's won his last ten 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:47.280 tournaments when he's had a fifty four hole lead. Goy, man, 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.800 this dude. I actually put this tweet out yesterday. You know, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:58.560 wherever you sit on the scale of understanding those comments 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:03.040 he made, at the very least, maybe we all should 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:07.280 take some time trying to understand what he said, because 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:14.280 it's it's absolutely working he and I'm not just isolating 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.240 the success and the great golf, but I'm isolating the 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.520 moments after he won with his family the way he's 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.880 handling is his son, the relationship he seems to have 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.479 with his parents, the time he takes with the volunteers, 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.960 taking photos with them and shaking their hand and having 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.320 a laugh with with all of them, the relationship he 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.880 has with with Ted, all those kinds of things. It 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:44.440 he looks like he's he's so peaceful. It's like that. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.200 It's like that book in that movie, The Peaceful Warrior. 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.480 I don't know if you ever watched watch that or 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.560 read that book, but I have not. We'll put that 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.960 on your list. But this dude is he's figured it out, man. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:15:59.400 I think in a way. 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.840 I was just talking with some friends about this this 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.840 weekend is and this was like a different conversation. But 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.760 one of the things he's done. When I started working 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:16.520 in the job force, my first job out of college, 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:22.720 I worked in an office and I only had access 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.960 to my work email through a work computer, and at 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.720 that time, I didn't have a work laptop. So every 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.040 day I would go, i would leave the office and 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.320 it was off. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.040 Like nobody could get a hold of me. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.080 Except when I'm in was in the office, And I 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.960 think about, like how wonderful that was to just like 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.080 you know, this is part of society, right where like 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:53.720 you're constant connectivity and you're never off. And I used 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.720 to like I had a couple of year window of 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.560 my life, like very short period of my life where 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:03.880 I just left everything at work. And it feels like 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.080 that's kind of what he's trying to do with his 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.760 golf game and with his his faith and his family. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.800 You know, that's kind of like, you know what he said, 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:16.000 you know, golf comes third after family and faith, and 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.400 you know, whether you you know, agree how you feel 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.320 about the commentary. I think there's just such a power 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:29.520 when you when you play golf from a place of 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.840 it not as you said, your life and how you 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.000 feel is not wrapped up in golf is best played 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:38.120 when you when you. 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:39.040 Aren't like. 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:45.640 So tied to the outcome and when it falls down 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.040 the rank in your in your you know, importance. I've 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:53.080 always thought like as somebody who's just played, you know, competitively, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:58.080 as a as like an amateur, like post like kids, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.399 golf got easier for me because it's like I got 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.439 like all these other problems like this is like me 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.800 hitting an approach shot left. It's like the least of 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.399 the things that is bothering me, like you know, and 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:15.520 it's like what he's doing by lowering it down his 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.280 his life priority list is he's getting a mental edge 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.280 over a lot of competitors that that haven't been able 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:23.919 to compartmentalize the sport. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:29.040 Yeah, you know, to me, he you mentioned those three things. 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:33.119 You know, he's mentioned those things. You know, family, family 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.160 and friends is one group. Let's call it social life. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:42.320 His faith is one bucket, and then his business and 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.840 get the game of golf is the third bucket. And 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.080 I think way he's really struck gold in all of 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:54.200 that is whichever bucket he's playing in of those three, 0:18:55.359 --> 0:19:00.080 he's one hundred percent present, And that I think, I 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.840 think that's part of the secret. You know, I'm not 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.879 ashamed to say I've been so consumed by the game 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.920 at times, particularly when I was playing, that there would 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.960 be times where you know, I was with my family, 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.119 but I was still thinking about the game. I was 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.760 still thinking about how I'm not driving the ball well enough, 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.520 Am I using the right putter? Should I switch the 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:31.000 shaft in my irons? You know, stuff like that. But 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:37.760 he he seems so secure in himself that when he's 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:41.160 playing in whichever bucket he is there one hundred percent 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:46.040 and he's giving it one hundred percent focus, and then 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.399 when he moves into the next bucket, he's able to 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.399 leave the previous side alone for a little while and 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.520 just be one hundred percent invested in that current space. 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:02.399 It's awesome. And to be twenty nine years old and 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:07.840 have it figured out that will already is uh, you 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.800 got to tip your captain, you really, you really really do. 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:13.439 Yeah. 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.920 I think, like, you know, one of the other aspects 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:22.040 of it is the consistency of his team, the like 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:27.200 the steadiness of it, like same instructor his entire life. 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:29.600 I think there's uh, you. 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:33.400 Know, obviously Ted Scott coming coming on was a big 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.760 part of it is you know, his parents are around 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.920 all the time and you know wife, wife, and now 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.480 kid Ted Scott coming in. 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.280 But then you think also about like. 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:49.680 The lack of ego in the team where Randy Smith's 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.120 been his coach for his whole life, and it's it's 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.960 like this putting is an issue. Let's bring in another 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.000 set of eyes and we're going to work with Phil 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:00.240 Kenyon and we're going to work there and there it's 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:04.240 seemingly you know, no issue. I imagine that sometimes can 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.119 cause problems when you have multiple voices in your in 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.640 your you know, coaching room. 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:11.520 Per se. 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.679 But you know you can hear him talk about Teddy 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.600 and and like the preparedness of both of them, like 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.760 where you know, I think he said something yesterday where 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.840 it was effectively like listen, I know Ted's done as much, 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.920 if not more work than me preparing for this tournament. 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.679 And you know, the consistency of messaging, the pro the 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:37.680 long term approach. It's just the totality of how he's 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:43.200 gotten to this peak place, at the absolute peak point 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:47.040 of his athleticism and mindset in his career. Right he 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.320 is like in the middle of his prime, playing as 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.399 good of golf as we've seen since Tiger Woods. 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:57.280 Yeah, I totally agree with you, and it sort of 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:01.520 mirrors everything I was just talking about about those three buckets. 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.040 You know, he's got these people, He's got Randy, Phil, 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:10.399 ted he's got his agent Blake, and once again, just 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.479 like his family life, it's wholesome. There doesn't seem to 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:20.359 be any tension there. None of those guys seem to 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:26.639 bring massive egos to the table. That's helpful. All of 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:31.080 them understand that Sheeffler is the star. They're not trying 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:35.119 to be the star. You know, many times over the 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:40.720 years you've seen caddies or coaches, or psychologists or physios 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:43.840 to try to take some of the limelight when a 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.960 player has success that doesn't happen here. They understand, this 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:52.560 guy is the boss, this guy is the stud and 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.680 they just take care of what their job is. And 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:05.160 you know, I can't give Randy enough credit kudo's respect. 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.840 You know, the job that he's done with Scotty since 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:16.240 he was a young boy, shepherding him through growth, getting stronger, 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:23.399 changing equipment through all those phases, and still maintaining this 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:31.840 human being's incredible natural gift, God given gift, and aligning 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:36.679 that with the supreme work ethic and great mental ability 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:40.119 that Scotty has. Randy has done an incredible job with that. 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.880 And they made a great choice when they bought Phil 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:48.119 Kenyan into the team. And Phil is somebody that I 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.760 rarely trust. I've worked with him in the past. He 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:56.720 has amazing knowledge of putting, and he has the ability 0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:01.119 to give you the answers to the questions that you have. 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:08.520 And the other thing I love about what the two 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.480 of them have done if we just zoom in on 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.879 the putting for a second, because the guy just was 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:16.160 second in strokes gained and putting at a major championship. 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.920 I was thinking about this as like, if he had 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.880 his C game from tee to green, he still would 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:24.600 have contended because of the way he putted. 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:25.680 Absolutely right. 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.560 I mean this the way that two. 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.960 Years ago you would have been like this is there's 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:34.199 no way he would ever contender unless he brings his 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.240 B plus a game to a game. 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:38.680 The way he puts the ball. 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.600 I mean, this is for sure become a weapon now 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:47.000 and in twenty twenty five, it's undeniable that you know 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.320 he's actually become one of the better putters, especially when 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.600 you throw in the intangible. You know, data can take 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:55.639 you so far. It doesn't always take you all the 0:24:55.680 --> 0:25:02.560 way from an understanding standpoint, but especially when you start 0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:08.680 to bake in the fact that he's always putting under 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:14.280 pressure because he's always in the hunt. You know, you 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:18.479 can kind of fake nice putting when you're hiding in 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.000 the middle of the field or you're hiding in twentieth 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:24.919 position at times and you don't have that real intense 0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:29.800 pressure where you know you're in the lead and all 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.000 the focus is on you, and your whole body is 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.040 shaking while you're hitting these putts. And you know, it's 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.920 extremely impressive how well he's putted, being in contention pretty 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.800 much every round that he plays, and the way they've 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:47.879 gone about this with Phil, the patience they've shown. You know, 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:50.680 a lot of people like to say it was Rory's 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.720 idea when he went to the mallet. Actually, when you 0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.879 speak to Scotty and his team and you speak to 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:59.240 the guys a tailor made, he had been playing around 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.520 with that mallet for quite some time, but they just 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.879 couldn't quite because he was used to putting with a blade. 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.520 He was used to the cig being really far forward, 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.800 like on the top line, and as soon as you 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.119 start to go to a mallet, that cig starts to 0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:16.880 slide back a little bit and the putter behaves differently 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.480 as it should. It's a totally different shape and look. 0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.399 And so they had been playing around with it for 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.440 a little while, but the patients they showed between going 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.840 to the mallet bleeding in the claw grip to a 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.080 point now to where he's just so comfortable with all 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:39.560 of it and the stroke and the tempo and the alignment. 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:41.760 I mean, he's getting to a point now to where 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:46.359 it kind of looks automatic when he puts. It doesn't 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:50.320 look like he's getting over these putts and rarely trying hard, 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:56.240 rarely thinking a lot, like just being burdened by thought of, 0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.040 you know, let me get the shaft up, let me 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.520 make my shirt groups doing this and make sure the 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.399 potter HiT's not going back inside what have you. He 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:08.159 just seems to be into the pott, into the line, 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.359 into the feel of it, and he's just rolling the 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:16.080 ball beautifully. So once again there you know, that combination, 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.760 that part of the team. They've done such a brilliant job. 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.080 Yeah, I you know, I hadn't thought about the idea 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:31.359 of like the putting in the context of when he's 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:36.160 putting every week, because it's so true. You see, it's 0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.520 so often like you see these great you have these 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:43.159 great putting performances, or you have these great putters, and 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:47.479 it comes Sunday and it just like they stop falling, 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.159 you know, or it's you know, the putter goes cold 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:59.720 and and it's totally a different feel, totally different mindset. 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.960 I think, like just from like the eye test, right, 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:08.720 I it's he's a guy that when he gets inside 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.800 of fifteen feet now you kind of expect it to 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.560 go in or it's going to scare the hole. And 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.199 that that to me is like the it's like you 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.679 always think about like different putters, is like, am I am? 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:23.240 I scared? 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.680 It's going in, like from almost anywhere. And I think 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.720 that's like that ten to twenty foot er. I feel 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.440 like he makes a couple of them around And obviously 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.600 he gives himself so many looks. 0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.600 That's the other thing. But you know his ability to. 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.960 People talk about his strategy a lot. Oh, he's like 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.080 so smart. Look at the targets he hits. 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:54.479 He plays too. I think what goes under the radar 0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.680 with his strategy and this is. 0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.160 I think it's showing in his putting now, which didn't before, 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:05.920 probably because of confidence you know, in there, but his 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:11.960 commitment to targets I think doesn't get talked about maybe enough. 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:13.880 When you watch. 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:16.640 It's like, yeah, I know that I should play there's 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.480 this backpin on this narrow green, and I should play 0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.480 ten ten feet left of this pin that's tucked on 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:26.440 the right side. I know I should play there. But 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.600 it to me, what is fascinating. Is it feels like 0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.400 he is one hunder committed because so many people pick 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.400 a target and then the next challenge you pick the 0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.880 right target becomes can I commit to hitting it to 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:45.560 that target and not subconsciously knowing that I can bail 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:50.040 out twenty five feet short left of this target? And 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.760 that's like, you know, really like the safe place of miss. 0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:55.520 Like what what. 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.360 Boggles my mind when I when I really think about it, 0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:04.360 is that, like how often he is able to not 0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.000 only pick the right target, but then one hundred percent 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:12.320 commit to these extraordinarily difficult shots that he is hitting 0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.800 to the right target when there's like a very small 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:19.080 margin of error right, And I think this is where putting, 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.520 you know, so much of putting becomes Okay, I'm set 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:27.960 up right, I've picked my line, and now I'm committing 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:32.400 to it and not having this you know, golfers just 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:37.280 know where they can bail out and where they they 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.880 can play away and avoid risk. And with his show, 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.959 but like he hits to these targets that are just 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.840 in every time it's pin high. It's just unbelievable to me. 0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.400 Yeah, a couple things that you know, while we talk 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.960 about the putting, and earlier you mentioned he seems to 0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.160 be making you know, two to three twenty thirty foot 0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.560 is around at least in twenty twenty five, I saw 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.080 the stat he was fifty nine or sixty three from 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.480 ten feeting in this week. You know, you get a 0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:12.400 guy that hits the ball that accurately with that amount 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.800 of control, and then he's only missed four putts from 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.920 ten feeting in the whole week. There's just no way 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:20.640 you're going to get anywhere near him. I mean, he's 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:26.400 going to blow the field away every single time that happens. 0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.440 And to me, what I'm really starting to see, and 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:34.040 I've seen this from McElroy in the last maybe eighteen 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.920 months or so as well, when you start to see 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.160 a player that's really good at something. So both of 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:46.120 those guys are really great ball strikers, and both of them, 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:50.760 ironically at times have not been great putters. And you 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:55.959 see the differences between how they go about putting and 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.080 how they go about the long game, which is their 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.840 ultimate strength. And in both those cases, with Macroy and Scheffler, 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:09.640 you're starting to see now a similar routine, a similar 0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:18.200 timing standpoint, a similar clarity of thought, when they put 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.239 as they do when they hit the ball, and so 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.040 all of a sudden, those things are starting to meld 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:29.800 together beautifully, and they're looking so comfortable on the greens. 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:34.520 And you know, that's a tough spot for any of 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.560 their competitors to have to deal with, because the both 0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:41.160 of them have turned what was their weakness into a strength. 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:46.200 And when you talk about the commitment of the target 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.880 picking and the strategy and that kind of stuff, you know, 0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.400 I've been really, really lucky throughout my career to spend 0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.600 quite a bit of time with Jack and with Tiger. 0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:02.520 And the one thing that those too greats and legends 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.600 always talk about when you talk to them about the 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:11.200 game of golf is discipline. And Scotty shows that discipline 0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:16.760 the same way that those two guys did, an uncanny 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:25.440 ability to know when to play smart or safe, but 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.040 also when it's time to put your foot on the 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:32.960 gas and show how much better you are than the 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:37.040 rest of the field. And that's a beautiful thing to me. 0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:43.480 And that's why I can see him slowly but surely. 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.000 I know it's early. I know life happens, I know 0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:51.000 injuries happen. I know that better than anybody, I see 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:55.200 him slowly but surely starting to edge his way to 0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.400 their level. I'm talking about Tiger and Jack, and the 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:03.080 thing that really jumped out to me a perfect example 0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.240 of what we're talking about. Two holes two, part three. 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.640 So it's six right where they play back away from 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:16.279 the ocean on Saturday, a beautiful, beautiful little path three 0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.080 there with the green that has like this finger in 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:23.680 the back right. And on Saturday, all the leaders were 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:28.560 hitting a really nice shot to thirty eight or forty 0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.120 feet short where the fat part of the green is 0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.759 because it's got these fall offs on both sides, and 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.680 you're really just trying to get it up on the deck. 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.040 And if you get out there with a par you're 0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.920 doing good. You're perfectly happy. You've got seven, which is 0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.000 a reachable par five, and you've just had vibes. It's 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:47.000 a drivable part four. And Shepler stands up and he's 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.520 got the lead and he HiT's like an off pace 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:58.240 ten yard fade into this back finger and you're just thinking, gosh, 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.680 like no one else is really he either got that 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:05.919 shot or has the guts in that moment to take 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.480 on that shot because of the risk involved. But it 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.600 was a moment to where he was like, yeah, I 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.319 got the shot, and I have no problem hitting it 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.279 right here. And it just made me think back to 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.560 some of the things that Jack has said to me 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.160 when when I spent time with him, was he would 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.319 never take on a shot unless he felt like he 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.239 could pull it off eight out of ten times. But 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:32.960 if he did feel like he could pull it off 0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:34.880 eight out of ten times, he was going to go 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.720 for it, and he was going to trust his ability 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:39.399 and the work that he had put in. And that 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.959 was a great moment there where where I just sat 0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.200 back in my chair at home and I was like, Gali, 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.560 this guy is he's got something that the others don't have. 0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:51.200 And the other spot was on the other nine on sixteen, 0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.760 which is an extremely demanding Part three. 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:58.160 The way you played that hole, oh week, go, it's silly. 0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:02.920 He played that hole under par. You know, it's a 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.240 two three four one. You see some guys hitting hitting 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.200 hybrids and lumber and seven woods in there, and he's 0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:12.040 hit it inside of twenty feet every single day. 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:17.319 I mean, he effectively picked up five shots on the 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:18.960 field on that hole. 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:23.360 Yeah, all week, And I just I I think something 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.319 that you've seen. 0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:27.480 I saw a graft that was going around from day 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:33.440 to golf yesterday where it's just basically like at Major's, 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.960 Scottie just elevates to a different level and it's like 0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.399 the thing about this whole situation, and this was so 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:46.520 similar with Tiger. The harder of the golf course is 0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.080 or the heart of the shot, and the sixteenth was 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.960 an encapsulation of this. That's the hardest shot on that 0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:53.920 golf course. 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:55.080 Is the sixteenth hole. 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:59.160 Yeah, the sixteenth t shot, the sixth the whole location 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.520 on sixth that you talk about another like ten out 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.879 of ten shot. Now, I will just put a caveat both. 0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:09.520 Those are like perfect stock go to Scottie shots. They're 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:15.320 fades like but extraordinarily high difficulty shots. 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:17.880 And those those are. 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.640 Just the moments he's going to separate more than any 0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:21.160 other way. 0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:21.640 Yep. 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.600 It's why actually, like the Craig Ranch win, that he 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:26.560 blew out the field on a golf course that's like 0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.120 super unpenal might be his most impressive victory of the 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:33.640 year because it was a golf course where he doesn't 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.359 just like lift and separate. It's why Memorial seemingly every 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.719 year he plays it, he's going to be in the 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.640 mix because it's extremely demanding golf course. The more demanding 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.719 that you the questions that are being asked the just 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.160 the more he's going to separate because he is at 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.640 such as I mean, it's just like the level of 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.239 play is out of this world with irons. 0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.760 The iron play is just it's astounding. 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.000 You know, well you you, you know, while we're on 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.760 the comparison and we're talking about Rory at the same time, 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.279 when you think about Rory's game, you know, where does 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.960 he rarely step up and separate himself. It's off the 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.000 tee and it's with long iron, so it's basically from 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.400 two hundred yards out to three forty or whatever. He 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.560 hits his driver right. What did he do on the weekend? 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.240 At sixteen? He missed the green to the right both times. 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.520 And this is either the best of the second best 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:37.480 long iron player in the game. So just start to 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:43.239 consider how much Scotty separated himself from Rory just at 0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.960 sixteen where he hits it inside of twenty feet both times, 0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.240 and Rory missed the green to the right. Two brilliant 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.560 up and downs. But still when you miss the green 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.560 to the right there. I mean, it's luck of the drawer. 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.279 What's it a lie? You're going to get? How far 0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:59.080 down the bank that ball is going to roll? And 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:02.600 Scotty's just flying these hot cuts in there, you know, 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.120 landing the ball within a couple of yards of where 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:11.359 he's picturing it. Ah, it's fun to watch, man, It's 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.040 so much fun to watch. And the fact that he's 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:20.120 just twenty nine and you know, hopefully we we got 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:25.640 another decade of watching him. It's it's gonna be a 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.959 real fun ride. 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:31.319 The Yeah, I there's a lot there. 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:38.040 I think, like we talked about after the Masters, I 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.960 think what's interesting about the two of them and I hope, 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:45.080 like you know, we've had some great major duels over 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:49.480 the last few years, you know, Bryson and Rory at Pinehurst, 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:54.799 you know Phil and and Stenson, Brooks and Phil at 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.319 at Kiwa. Like I think one of the hopes would 0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:00.800 be for you know, I think Rory probably had his 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.760 big game. I think he's like rounding into form into 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:08.080 like like where if he had had a month more 0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.480 of playing at this level, you might have seen that 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:12.880 duel happen. 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:14.000 But like what I. 0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:18.120 Noted, what you note, like what was unmistakable about this event. 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.239 When you watch Rory, who who had his probably be game, 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.560 he would have been contending if Scotty's not there right, 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.960 would have really been contending late on a Sunday. But 0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:31.960 like what you saw was just the looks that Rory 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:36.040 was consistently having at Port Rush were ten feet further 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:40.520 away than the looks that Scotty consistently got, you know, 0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:44.799 and and you know that that's the iron plays just 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.200 at this incredible level. I think after the Masters we 0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.200 talked about like the shot on the shot on fifteen 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.800 that Rory hit at the Masters is probably a shot 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:58.600 that only he could hit because of his his his 0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:03.719 natural propensity to draw a golf ball, and that was 0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.080 a shot Scotty had a similar shot, couldn't hit it 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:11.920 on Sunday at the Masters. But likewise, that shot on 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:17.360 sixteen just it is one of the hardest shots in golf. 0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:19.279 But it's also that that. 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.640 Shape is a perfect fade yeah shape, And that's a 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.440 shot where you know, because his stock shot and this 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.840 is like just one of those nerdy things about golf. 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.759 What he sees is that shot and it makes it 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.560 a little bit more comfortable. But what both of them 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:39.600 can do. And it's like these two have separated themselves 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.360 very extensively in the owgr I mean the distance between 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:48.480 Rory and Xander, the distance between Scotty and Rory is huge. 0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:52.840 The distance between Rory and Xander is now huge. But Xander, 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.880 you could throw in this bucket too. These three guys, 0:41:56.640 --> 0:42:00.959 they hit draws and fades with approach shots all the time. 0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.840 M hm, Paul McGinley on Live from Mask Scotty, you know, 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.359 are you Are you hitting shots both ways like all 0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.920 the time. It just depends, you know, off the t 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.640 I don't think Scotty really moves the ball both ways. 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.000 I think that's probably like the one thing is that 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.440 wind off the left gave him trouble all week, and 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.759 he went on Sunday, you know, talk about adjustments, went 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:22.520 to three wood so he could turn it a little 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:23.200 bit more on. 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:24.719 Those you'll draw the three wood. 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:28.080 Yeah, so on those holes with that off the left, 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:31.960 he seemed to hit threewood a lot yesterday. But with 0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.600 Scotty he said, yeah, I'm I'm Dick. The shot shape 0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.520 is dictated by the situation. I'm comfortable hitting both shapes. 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:45.080 Rory comfortable hitting both shapes. Xander comfortable hitting both shapes. 0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.799 Where has Bryson gotten in trouble this year is when 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:51.080 the draw is just drawing too much because that's his shape, right, 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:55.160 Like you think about it, the pervasive thought in golf instruction, 0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.440 especially like with juniors and like how to maximize your 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:02.680 best tomorrow is just play one shape and own it. 0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.000 Just play one shape and own it. One of the 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:10.759 things that was resounding to me yesterday was the long 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:15.480 term approach. I think if you try and play and 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.839 try and learn how to hit both shapes, you are sacrificed, 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:23.839 sacrificing how good you might be in a month or 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:27.919 six months, you know, because you're gonna you're gonna own 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.680 your one shape and that's I hit a fade. Well, 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:34.040 I'm just gonna hit a fade every single time. But 0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.880 the thing that like players like Scotty and I, you know, 0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:42.440 their natural gifts and talent are undeniable. But by hitting 0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:46.600 all the shapes, hitting both ways, with with the with 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:51.200 the approach shots, they've unlocked a ceiling that is in 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:56.520 a different stratosphere because they can get to whole locations. 0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.120 And we saw this all weekend with Scotty just taking 0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:02.040 on whole location nobody else was taking on, as you 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:06.440 alluded to, and that was just such a long term 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:11.759 view of like where we're getting to. You know, we 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.360 are trying, and I think that's the thing. One of 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.680 the other things that I keep going back to is 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.080 Scottie talking about what Randy Smith used to say to 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.880 him as a kid, We're trying to build the best 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.920 golfer at twenty five. We're not trying to be the 0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:28.680 best at seventeen. And I feel like this, like instant 0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:33.760 gratification and culture were in the idea of like maximizing 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.560 who you are tomorrow you lose sight of where you 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:40.400 want to be. And now you see Scotty Scheffler aged 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.399 twenty nine as good as we've seen. 0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:45.880 Yeah, I mean it goes back to what we were 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:50.640 talking about earlier, the patients and the intelligence and brilliance 0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.879 that that partnership has shown of the last I mean, 0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.239 what's it. What is he twenty nine? I don't know 0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.239 when he started with Randy. He's probably just a teenager 0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.160 or maybe even before that, So you know we're talking 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:09.680 more than a decade. Just so smart the way they've 0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:13.560 gone about it, and I totally agree with you if 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.919 you're wanting to improve your game. You know, anybody that's 0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:19.200 out there listening to this at whatever level, or even 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:26.480 young pros trying to solidify their place on a tour somewhere. Yes, 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:31.160 you need to own one shot and you can get 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.279 to a particular place and have success if you own 0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:40.040 one shot. But with these two guys, I mean we're 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:46.200 talking about elite, elite level, and it's the reason that 0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.080 they've been able to separate themselves. And you throw Xander 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.239 into that bucket as well. You're right, Bryson. We don't 0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:55.680 see many fades from We see mainly draws, and then 0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:57.439 on the other side of the spectrum, with a guy 0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.960 like Moricauo, who's had a lot of success, you see 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:04.280 only fades and you see hardly any draws. But these 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:08.080 two or three guys, Xander to a slightly lesser extent 0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.440 because he has been bugged by this injury in twenty 0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:15.520 five so we haven't quite seen him at full stride yet, 0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:19.480 but those three, for sure, they have that ability. And 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:23.120 it's not just the working of the ball with Scotty 0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.920 that I found so impressive. And you go back to 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:31.600 the Scottish Open as we were finishing off that broadcast, 0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:34.720 and you know he turned out another top ten. 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:37.920 Almost last in the field and putting. 0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:40.360 Yeah, I mean just with like his d game. It 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:43.920 felt like no disrespect to any of the others that 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.919 played well, but he was just like in second gear 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:50.120 and he hadn't really hadn't rarely put his foot on 0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:54.600 the gas at all. I actually said to Jim Nantz, 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.279 I said to him, you know, this is going to 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.840 be so interesting. You're observe him this week and you 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:03.040 foreshaded to the Open. It's really the only question mark 0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:07.040 I still have left with Scheffler. Okay, his green side 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.000 bunker play can be a little bit shaky at times. 0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:11.640 You know, we've seen him in a couple of shanks 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.200 out of green side bunkers. I mean, you look at 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.080 the stats. He's seventy fifth on tour, which is not 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:21.080 terrible at all. He's still the road gaining strokes. I mean, 0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.319 he's middle of the road. But when you compared to 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.319 the others where he's like number one or two in 0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:29.200 every category, the green side bunker play is something. But 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:34.440 what I said was, you know, can he conquer links 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.640 golf and can he figure that out? Because he has 0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:40.879 this mindset where and you guys have this this bit 0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:44.440 about it where you know he wants everything to be fair. 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:46.960 You know, when he hits a ball down the middle, 0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:49.040 he wants it to finish down the middle. He doesn't 0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.239 like it if it lands on a knoll and kicks 0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.279 into the first cut on the left. Like to him, 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:58.440 that's it's very hard to process that. And here is 0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.720 you know, he comes to a a famous golf course, 0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.479 an iconic golf course at Royal Port Rush, and he's 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:08.200 moving the ball both ways, he's taking speed off, he's 0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.080 heating little chip shots with the irons. I mean, think 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:14.239 about the shot he hit into number one yesterday. You know, 0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:21.200 you are in that moment, so so so nervous about 0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:26.520 the next four hours and what could possibly unfoldw and 0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:29.399 playing with a big lead is not easy because at 0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:34.640 that point it's yours to lose, and when you lose one, 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:39.280 that's all everybody's going to talk about. It's much easier 0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:42.560 coming from behind because in a certain sense, it's just 0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:46.000 foot on the gas, hope to get on a run, 0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.439 Hope that the leader falls down and stumbles somehow. When 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:51.920 you're going out there protecting a big lead or playing 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.319 with a big lead. Gosh that the heat is even 0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:58.799 more intense. And he steps up on the first hole 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.359 out of the first cut with the whole locations cut 0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.760 just off of a ridge, and he hits a little 0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:10.399 half chippy cut nine iron that gets the correct trajectory 0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:14.799 to skip up the ridge into that shoulder on the 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.719 right and feed down to a foot. I mean, how 0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:18.440 do you play. 0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:23.120 Against this guy, especially he did that right after his 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:28.000 playing partners nearest competitor stuffed it in there like four feet. 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:32.279 I mean, I'm sitting you know, I wasn't quite like 0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:34.840 you on your schedule, waking up at two am to 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:38.040 watch you. I was over at Port Rush Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. 0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:41.520 I got home Thursday night and so I was setting 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.120 my alarm for seven am here on the East Coast 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:48.000 and then I would watch from then. And you know, 0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.919 I'm sitting there watching this first hole of the day 0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:56.719 and he hits that shot. He manufactures that shot, and 0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:59.560 I'm like, gosh, these guys have got no chance, and 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:01.959 it's quite quite funny, you know. I had a little 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:05.480 fun on social media when he started to get things 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:12.240 going on Friday. So I posted something on x at 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.640 around around noon Eastern on Friday, where I was like 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:20.640 the engravers already put the s on the cleric jug. Gosh, 0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:26.600 the comments were hilarious. I mean people were offended that 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:30.520 I could have that take and have that opinion. But 0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:34.560 you could just start to see it. When he gets 0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:39.239 into this flow, in this zone, you're gonna need like 0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:46.160 something extremely untoward happened for him not to win, like 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:50.400 food poisoning, like jamming his wrist on a root or 0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.799 something like that. His back's gonna have to go out 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.759 something like that when he gets into that zone and 0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:57.600 that flow. 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:01.200 Hard to well it. 0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:04.680 You know, it's if he has I think it's like 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:09.040 boils down to at this point because of the level 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:12.720 that the tee to Green game is effectively at every week. 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:19.200 It boils down to does he have two good putting rounds? 0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:24.920 If he puts well twice, it's kind of curtains. Yeah, 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.440 And you saw it on Saturday, you know, on the 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.680 Shotgut Start. We were talking on Saturday night about this 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:33.880 and you just aart like, you know, you're trying to 0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:37.680 make the case of like who could do something, and 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:40.480 it's you know, you get to a point where I 0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:44.080 said to Brendan I said, if he shoots even par, 0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.200 does anybody get to fourteen? 0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:49.840 Because I think, like, what was crazy? 0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:53.600 One of the crazy things that happened this weekend was 0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:56.000 like people like got their knives out for the golf 0:51:56.040 --> 0:52:02.960 course because this was happening. There was no wind and 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.520 this golf course like you're sitting at a point where 0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:10.120 you know there's no wind and on we're talking on 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:15.640 Saturday night, is can anybody get to fourteen? And the 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:19.759 resounding like the the the agreement was, no, nobody's going 0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.640 to get to fourteen, and they didn't and they didn't, 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:26.560 And like the golf course was, it was such a 0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:28.520 good It was such a good fit whether it was 0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:31.200 windy or not windy. It was such a good fit 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:35.680 for Scottie because of the demand that the Green Greens 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:39.440 placed on the approach shots. I thought, I was curious 0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.319 you were that was Was that your first time out there? 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:44.520 No? I worked. 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:49.239 I worked the previous open there for Golf Channel, so 0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.320 that was the second time I've been there. 0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:56.320 You never played there in an open? But where where 0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:59.239 where do you kind of what do you think? What 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:04.000 are your overall thoughts of the venue and where it 0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:06.560 kind of sits with it with other roto venues. 0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:10.359 I thoroughly enjoy it. I think it's awesome. I think 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:17.840 it asks many different questions. You have holes moving in 0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:21.239 all directions, dog leg rights, dog leg lefts. You have 0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:22.240 straight holes. 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:23.719 You have. 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:29.840 Greens predominantly perched up with fall offs on the side. 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:35.520 Not too many pot bunkers, but they are extremely well placed. 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:38.800 You've got a couple times where out of bounds really 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:42.600 comes into play. Think about one, you think about four, 0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.640 you think about eighteen. Not so much because you can 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.759 just gear back and it doesn't really bring it into 0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:52.280 play over the back of five didn't really present itself 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.400 as much of an issue for these guys this week. 0:53:56.520 --> 0:54:02.440 And you know, the holes in different directions all the time, 0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:06.480 and so the way the wind switches on you and 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:10.120 how you have to deal with that is changing and 0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:12.239 keeping you on your toes. Now, did we have a 0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:14.799 lot of wind, No, but we had We had ten 0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.879 miles an hour for the most part throughout the week, 0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:22.560 which is enough to cause some havoc and create some doubt. 0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.640 I think it's a brilliant venue for spectators, a lot 0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:33.279 of great viewing spots. It's so picturesque and beautiful and 0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:37.919 the aerial shots are amazing, particularly when the sun peaks out, 0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:43.359 and I think it's a marvelous venue. I rarely do. 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.560 I thoroughly enjoyed both times being there. The people, the 0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:50.879 people are so into it, you know, in that Port 0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:54.960 Rush Bush Mills area. It's it's great. 0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:56.680 I love it. 0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:03.239 It's a delightful area. It's beautiful, and uh yeah, the 0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:09.479 people are great too. It's it's it's a I think 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:14.640 that it's it's funny because, like I think, people too often. 0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:19.200 I think there were some analytics that people fell in 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:21.879 love with. But if you watch the golf and watch 0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:26.680 the shots, like the guy you think about Rory with 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:31.319 his B game, he was effectively bunched in with other 0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:35.719 great players playing great. You know, your Harris English is 0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:41.040 your Fitzpatricks. And then you had Scotti Scheffler, the best 0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:44.000 player in the world, playing at an extremely high level, 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:48.120 and he's able to just push up, get away. And 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:51.560 I think a venue should allow you to get away 0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:55.480 from the field. I mean, that's what you want in 0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:58.520 terms of like if you're talking about a championship test, right, 0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:02.640 you want the ability to these players, you know, excel 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:06.319 and I think you know that's I I'm curious when 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:10.319 it'll go back there. But uh, if you get if 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.280 you got that wind blown twenty five instead of fifteen, 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:18.000 I mean that you get those middle stretch holes and 0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.960 that's all you can all you can ask for out 0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:24.520 of a golf course and what it can do to you, 0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:27.000 you know, it'll it'll be you know. I think the 0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:31.520 other thing that uh stood out is you know, obviously 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:33.120 and I think this is going to be like kind 0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:35.279 of a something that all these guys have to deal 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:39.640 with in the future, is they're going to have to 0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:41.200 answer questions about Scotty. 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:42.600 You know. 0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:46.960 I think that's like one of the happening for your generation. 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:51.399 It was answering questions about Tiger. And it's not only 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:55.319 that you're getting your ass kicked by the guy all week, 0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:58.040 but then you get done with your week and you 0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:01.239 have to answer questions about him. And I thought, you know, 0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:06.040 we talked about this after the PGA, but Jordan Speith 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.399 kind of hit the nail on the head. I'm sure 0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:12.440 you saw this. Yeah, I'll read this here. He doesn't 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.319 care to be a superstar. He's not transcending the game 0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:19.360 like Tiger did. He's not bringing it to non golf audience. Necessarily. 0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:22.160 He doesn't want to go do the stuff that a 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:25.720 lot of us go do corporately, anything like that. He 0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:28.360 just wants to get away from the game and separate 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.200 the two because I know that he at one time 0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:33.560 he felt like it was too much and that he 0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:36.720 was taking it with him. And whenever he made that switch, 0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:39.760 I don't know what it was. But he has hobbies, 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:44.120 he always he's always with his family, They're always doing stuff. 0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:47.600 I think it's more so the difference of personality from 0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:50.520 any other superstar that you've seen in the modern era. 0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:53.840 And I would say, yeah, and he says and maybe 0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:57.480 in any sport. I totally agree with this. I don't 0:57:57.480 --> 0:58:01.680 think anybody is like him. 0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:08.000 M yep. I mean, it's exactly what we spoke about earlier. 0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:15.000 He's just, you know, and let's be real, you know, 0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:20.600 he's a human being. And I can confident it confidently 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:23.560 say that any human being is going to face adversity 0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:29.320 at some point in their life, you know, whether it 0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:34.600 be in your work, with your family, you know, nobody 0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:40.080 is exempt from that. But he just seems to have 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:43.000 everything in such a good place right now. And I 0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:48.240 totally agree with what Jordan says there, He's not And 0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:51.720 Scotty tried to tell us this on Wednesday. I mean, 0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:55.680 he's not doing this for the fame. He's not doing 0:58:55.720 --> 0:59:00.560 this for the notoriety. He's doing this because he loves 0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:04.720 the game. It's a it's a way for him to 0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:10.480 provide for his family. And then most importantly in that 0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:17.960 zone is he loves to compete. He loves to compete. 0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:22.640 And the opportunity for him to play in the biggest championships, 0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:26.960 on the biggest stages, at the best venues and test 0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:30.680 himself and test the work that he has done throughout 0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:33.800 his life. He gets a serious kick out of that. 0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:42.080 And gosh, you know it's it must be awesome to 0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:49.280 have your life simplified to that extent. It must be 0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:49.960 quite freeing. 0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:55.800 I think, like everybody, every human deals with like the 0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:58.840 disease and more the disease of wanting more. 1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:01.560 For him. 1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:07.280 I'd love to know the the you know, potential dollar 1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:10.560 figure of money right now that he's leaving on the 1:00:10.600 --> 1:00:14.600 table by keeping his as as speech alluded to his 1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:20.120 corporate sponsor responsibility very low. I mean, you're talking about 1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:23.440 probably tens of millions of dollars a year that he 1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:28.000 is passing on for sure, to keep this simplicity. He 1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:31.520 understands what he needs to put in, what he needs 1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:34.840 to put in at home for this recipe, this, you know, 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:38.720 this cocktail that he has created. I don't I don't 1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:42.080 think that people and I hope people talk about this more. 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:50.040 He is leaving so much money on the table. And 1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:52.440 there you're gonna say, oh, he makes so much money 1:00:52.440 --> 1:00:56.120 on the golf course. Sure, but this is his peak 1:00:56.200 --> 1:01:01.640 earning window and he is bypassing know, tens of millions 1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:05.360 of dollars a year to have this sort of balance 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:09.560 and that that's also it's disciplined in a different form. 1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:11.760 We've talked about his discipline on his golf on the 1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:15.720 golf course, discipline with his process of practicing. This is 1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:18.080 a this is a different This might be the hardest 1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:24.440 discipline that he's exercising is passing up heaps of money. 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:26.600 In order to keep the balance. 1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:31.080 It's it's a It's an incredible long range view because 1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:34.440 if he keeps competing and playing at this level, he 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:38.280 will make you know, as he ascends that list, he 1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:42.240 will his his earnings down the line of being a 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:45.120 top eight player or top five player of all time 1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:49.720 will far surpass if he cashes in for the next 1:01:49.760 --> 1:01:51.520 three years and his game dips. 1:01:52.880 --> 1:01:57.520 Totally agree. It is great discipline and he's it's great clarity. 1:01:57.880 --> 1:02:02.520 You know, he's figured out that this is the formula 1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:06.640 that is going to help him play his best golf 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:10.160 week in and week out, and he's not budgeting from that. 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:17.560 You know, we do need to be honest though and 1:02:18.720 --> 1:02:23.600 state that players in this era now have that option 1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:27.360 because of the amount of money that they play for 1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:34.840 week in and week out, the bonus structures through the 1:02:34.880 --> 1:02:39.800 PGA Tour, wherever you play. Really they now have that 1:02:39.920 --> 1:02:43.920 option because if you have the ability that Scotty or 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:46.960 Rory or Xander, any of these big dogs have, you 1:02:46.960 --> 1:02:49.360 know you're going to be making a lot, so you 1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:51.560 can start to cut down on some of the other stuff, 1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:56.680 Whereas previous generations weren't always afforded that or weren't afforded 1:02:56.720 --> 1:03:02.280 that same situation, so you had to think a little 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:06.320 more outside the box from you know, ways to generate income. 1:03:08.080 --> 1:03:12.720 But it's like a it's like a perfect storm for him, 1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:18.680 where the way that professional golf is currently structured suits 1:03:18.760 --> 1:03:25.040 his personality and his idea to a tee where he 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:27.520 can keep the main thing the main thing, and that 1:03:27.720 --> 1:03:33.240 is maintaining and improving this incredible level of play. And 1:03:33.280 --> 1:03:36.680 if he does that, the amount of money that he's 1:03:36.880 --> 1:03:42.320 going to make and has made is is it's unfathomable 1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:48.280 rarely for normal people. And I hope that doesn't sound bad, 1:03:48.360 --> 1:03:51.800 but it's just where he's at. 1:03:52.840 --> 1:03:55.320 Let's talk about Don Sky stuff. Now that we've hit 1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:56.400 the hour mark here. 1:03:58.880 --> 1:04:01.040 Hey, I thought he's a has to be boring And 1:04:01.080 --> 1:04:03.520 we just spoke about him for an hour and no problem, 1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:05.640 and we could probably do another hour and no problem. 1:04:05.880 --> 1:04:07.240 So I thought this. 1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:11.240 You know, it's actually similar like a couple of last 1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:14.520 year Nelly corn A discourse was like she needs to 1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:18.640 do more for the women's game off the course, and 1:04:18.640 --> 1:04:20.480 and I always used to say, you know, what she 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:22.960 just needs to do is just keep winning. That's the 1:04:23.000 --> 1:04:25.520 best thing she can do. And you know, there's a 1:04:25.560 --> 1:04:28.280 lot of talk and I I mean, I'm I'm someone 1:04:28.320 --> 1:04:30.960 that probably over the you know, I wish we got 1:04:31.000 --> 1:04:32.960 a little bit more. I think we're getting more from 1:04:32.960 --> 1:04:36.919 Scheffler every week. He's getting more comfortable, he's talking more, 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:39.840 we're learning more about him. But like the best thing, 1:04:39.920 --> 1:04:42.200 you know, the if he just keeps winning, it just 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:44.760 gets more and more interesting, you know, in terms of 1:04:44.840 --> 1:04:47.960 the historical context in the mountain he's climbing. 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:51.800 I think the way people pose questions to him is 1:04:52.480 --> 1:04:56.760 very important. It's interesting what he decides to bite on 1:04:57.600 --> 1:05:01.200 and and and then dive in a couple more layers 1:05:01.240 --> 1:05:03.920 and give us a little bit more. But if you 1:05:04.000 --> 1:05:07.280 ask questions just on the top layer, he's just not 1:05:07.360 --> 1:05:08.880 going to give you much. I mean, you've got to 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:11.320 find a way to dig in there a little bit. 1:05:11.760 --> 1:05:16.760 Otherwise he's just going to give you, you know, a 1:05:16.800 --> 1:05:17.400 lot of nothing. 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:21.680 I think there's comfort with Like the other aspect of 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:24.680 that long response he gave early in the week was 1:05:25.920 --> 1:05:29.920 the question came from Doug ferguson, who's you know, the 1:05:30.000 --> 1:05:34.640 AP Golf writer who's at almost every tournament, who is 1:05:34.720 --> 1:05:40.080 at almost every single press conference. These players give different 1:05:40.120 --> 1:05:43.440 answers to people that are comfortable with who are asking. Sometimes, 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:46.280 like you can see a player light up because somebody 1:05:47.240 --> 1:05:50.919 is asking the person who's asking the question, they want 1:05:50.960 --> 1:05:53.240 to help out and give an answer to, you know, 1:05:53.680 --> 1:05:56.720 And I think like he laughed about like Dougs, you know, 1:05:56.800 --> 1:05:58.920 or later in the week he said something like Doug's 1:05:58.920 --> 1:06:01.600 always asking to make questions and dumb questions, you know, 1:06:02.120 --> 1:06:05.919 like it is saying that from like a spot of respect, right, 1:06:06.200 --> 1:06:08.520 Like there is part of that is the familiarity. And 1:06:08.600 --> 1:06:11.160 you know there's been so much about golf media and 1:06:11.920 --> 1:06:16.400 players this year. But you know it's a double edged sword, right. 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:19.640 You build up comfort with players, relationships with players, and 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:22.360 then you lose some of your objectivity. Right, It's just 1:06:22.400 --> 1:06:26.720 like a natural human nature thing. But building the relationship, 1:06:26.800 --> 1:06:30.040 as we saw with the question that Doug asked, you know, 1:06:30.080 --> 1:06:32.800 that got that great a great response, like a you know, 1:06:32.840 --> 1:06:36.280 whether you agreed with the response or disagreed with the response, 1:06:36.360 --> 1:06:39.320 that's what the response you want out of athletes. You 1:06:39.440 --> 1:06:42.640 want them to give you how they're really feeling is 1:06:42.680 --> 1:06:43.240 because of. 1:06:43.160 --> 1:06:44.560 A relationship, you know. 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:49.840 So I think that's the other undercard, but transitioning. You know, 1:06:49.880 --> 1:06:52.800 Scotty Shuffler is on the Ryder Cup team, you tweeted 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:56.840 one of the stars of the of the Link season, 1:06:58.640 --> 1:07:01.760 unexpected star of the Links season. Although he has a 1:07:01.880 --> 1:07:04.480 great golf pedigree, like this guy did not just come 1:07:04.520 --> 1:07:05.200 out of nowhere. 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:07.720 The best player in college golf. 1:07:07.720 --> 1:07:12.120 Two years ago, Chris got her up wins the Scottish 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:14.560 finished his third last. 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:16.000 Week at the Open. 1:07:17.280 --> 1:07:21.000 He was not on anybody's Ryder Cup bingo card and 1:07:21.040 --> 1:07:24.120 you tweeted yesterday got her up to the Ryder Cup. 1:07:25.320 --> 1:07:27.480 I thought it had a nice ring to it. 1:07:27.480 --> 1:07:29.200 It does every now and then. 1:07:29.520 --> 1:07:32.320 I like to throw a wrench in there, just to 1:07:32.320 --> 1:07:37.520 see where from the waters, see what people's thought processes, 1:07:37.640 --> 1:07:38.720 where their minds are at. 1:07:41.040 --> 1:07:42.680 I talked to PJ a lot about this. 1:07:42.840 --> 1:07:49.600 There's nothing better than going online, dropping something in, leaving 1:07:49.640 --> 1:07:52.520 the app for a while and then coming back and 1:07:52.600 --> 1:07:56.160 just see what people said. I like to just drop 1:07:56.200 --> 1:07:58.320 in and acxit the situation. 1:07:58.560 --> 1:08:01.360 I'll tell you what my comments are. Like a full 1:08:01.440 --> 1:08:05.960 contact sport, Andy, It's you know, I need to like 1:08:06.080 --> 1:08:10.360 put body armor on and just be ready wrap myself 1:08:10.480 --> 1:08:13.520 up in bubble wrap before I open that app up, 1:08:13.560 --> 1:08:19.400 because the responses are quite something. To be honest with you, 1:08:19.479 --> 1:08:22.679 I've kind of become immune to it, really really since 1:08:22.720 --> 1:08:25.640 the I was keptain of the international team for the 1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:28.280 President's Cup and things kicked off leading up to that. 1:08:30.080 --> 1:08:32.840 It's been a wild ride for a few years. But 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:38.120 you know, it's such an interesting thing when you are 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:40.200 in a position to try and put a team together 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:45.439 leading up to one of these massive events and weighing 1:08:45.520 --> 1:08:48.600 up the data which has become a huge part of 1:08:48.640 --> 1:08:56.519 it with the eye test, and trying to figure out, 1:08:58.200 --> 1:08:59.840 you know, would you rather have a player with pet 1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:03.880 degree or would you rather have a player that's hot 1:09:03.960 --> 1:09:07.800 right now? And we still got a couple months to go, 1:09:07.960 --> 1:09:12.400 so it's a little bit of time. But like you say, 1:09:12.520 --> 1:09:15.960 he he has been a great player at every level 1:09:16.000 --> 1:09:18.920 that he's played at and he got that win on 1:09:18.960 --> 1:09:21.400 the PGA Tour. Now it was an opposite event last 1:09:21.439 --> 1:09:23.559 year in Myrtle Beach. That's fine, but still he gets 1:09:23.600 --> 1:09:26.040 the win on tour, which is a huge stepping stone. 1:09:27.200 --> 1:09:29.880 And in the last really two and a half months, 1:09:29.920 --> 1:09:34.040 his results have been really solid and he's been playing 1:09:34.080 --> 1:09:38.439 he's been showing signs of really that he's found a 1:09:38.479 --> 1:09:41.599 little something. In the last two weeks he's just blown 1:09:41.680 --> 1:09:45.439 through that gate and played brilliant golf. You can't deny. 1:09:45.479 --> 1:09:49.040 I mean, he took down McElroy and an extremely strong 1:09:49.080 --> 1:09:51.840 field in Scotland and then he backed it up. It 1:09:51.840 --> 1:09:54.479 would have been easy for him to go to the 1:09:54.520 --> 1:09:58.200 Open and be like, Okay, you know, I just got 1:09:58.200 --> 1:10:00.519 this huge win. I'm going to have a few extra 1:10:00.560 --> 1:10:04.960 guinness every night and enjoy this week. I believe it 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:07.680 was his first Open. We may need to check that 1:10:07.880 --> 1:10:13.160 was it, but no, he kept things rolling, man, and 1:10:12.760 --> 1:10:19.080 he was a part of the story through Sunday. And 1:10:19.240 --> 1:10:22.519 at that age you look at the gifts that he has. 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:26.799 He's an incredible driver of the ball with immense power, 1:10:28.720 --> 1:10:31.960 and in the last few months he started to really 1:10:32.000 --> 1:10:38.759 putt well around Bethpage Black seems like a pretty decent 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:42.280 fit to me. But the American team is as great 1:10:42.320 --> 1:10:45.040 as what they are. I mean, they kick out butts 1:10:45.080 --> 1:10:47.240 every time we play against him in the President's Cup. 1:10:48.400 --> 1:10:50.160 So I have a ton of respect for them and 1:10:50.160 --> 1:10:52.040 what they can do as great as what they are, 1:10:52.160 --> 1:10:56.720 and they they've got some they got some issues at 1:10:56.720 --> 1:11:02.880 this point trying to put this team together because they 1:11:02.880 --> 1:11:05.439 have a number of players knocking on the door, rookies 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:11.880 and stalwarts. But then they've got a captain that is 1:11:12.439 --> 1:11:16.439 not sure if he's playing or not playing. And in 1:11:16.479 --> 1:11:19.760 my opinion, he is for sure one of the top 1:11:19.760 --> 1:11:23.240 eight American golfers in the world, and he should be playing. 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:27.200 But I just know from my experience captaining one of 1:11:27.200 --> 1:11:30.760 those teams in the President's Cup, Guly it it would 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:35.640 be so hard to be captain all of those responsibilities 1:11:36.400 --> 1:11:41.519 and then play at the same time. So they have 1:11:41.560 --> 1:11:44.000 an interesting next couple months ahead and a lot of 1:11:44.040 --> 1:11:47.280 decisions to make as to how they're going to put 1:11:47.320 --> 1:11:50.040 their squad of twelve together. They're going to be good regardless. 1:11:50.600 --> 1:11:52.560 They're going to be good regardless, and they're going to 1:11:52.640 --> 1:11:58.080 have the home crowd just going nuts being in their corner. 1:11:58.240 --> 1:12:02.240 But a lot of very very big decisions to make 1:12:02.280 --> 1:12:05.320 for Keegan and his backroom staff here over the next 1:12:05.320 --> 1:12:06.280 couple months. 1:12:07.479 --> 1:12:13.679 Yeah, obviously it's a major but like with the Ryder Cup, 1:12:13.760 --> 1:12:17.200 it becomes so much of the implications at this time 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:20.840 of year of finishes and who who makes this team, 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:23.400 and it's it's a you know, one of the more 1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:28.559 compelling aspects of a Ryder Cup year is that. 1:12:28.479 --> 1:12:30.320 Like who's playing on a team. I think like. 1:12:30.439 --> 1:12:32.720 Historically, if you want to just do some context, like 1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:35.240 one of the things I've I've learned over the years, 1:12:35.320 --> 1:12:36.920 Like one of the things I think that when you 1:12:36.960 --> 1:12:41.400 look at a player's career, you look at the international team, 1:12:41.479 --> 1:12:45.840 how many, how long the span of international team competitions 1:12:45.880 --> 1:12:48.559 they played in is is like a great marker of 1:12:48.600 --> 1:12:51.880 the player because you know they're in the top bucket 1:12:52.320 --> 1:12:54.360 of players if you're playing in these things and you 1:12:54.400 --> 1:12:57.360 start to see like, you know, I think like undertone 1:12:57.360 --> 1:13:00.680 for Keegan Bradley, he's going to go twenty twelve to 1:13:01.720 --> 1:13:04.920 twenty twenty five if he play, assuming he plays on 1:13:04.960 --> 1:13:09.720 this team, like it does show like the the the 1:13:09.920 --> 1:13:12.960 lengthy period of relevance the guy's had in the sport. 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:16.000 Oh yeah, Like well he might know he's not gonna 1:13:16.000 --> 1:13:19.479 be like a first name Hall ballot Hall of Fame player, 1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:22.400 but like you when you zoom out and say, god, 1:13:22.439 --> 1:13:25.920 this guy played, you know you've played with effectively like 1:13:25.960 --> 1:13:29.800 two generations, three generations of golfers in Ryder Cups. He 1:13:29.840 --> 1:13:32.719 played with Phil Micholson and he's going to be playing 1:13:32.760 --> 1:13:35.360 this year with somebody who's twenty four to twenty five 1:13:35.400 --> 1:13:36.599 years old in a Ryder Cup. 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:40.800 I don't know how he doesn't play. 1:13:40.840 --> 1:13:41.639 He has to play. 1:13:41.800 --> 1:13:45.280 If you're putting, if you're putting a team together for 1:13:45.320 --> 1:13:50.160 this venue, and you look at Keegan's skill set, he's 1:13:50.200 --> 1:13:54.880 one of the the When you combine distance and accuracy, 1:13:55.439 --> 1:13:57.880 he's one of the best drivers of the bull in 1:13:57.920 --> 1:14:05.360 the game. And you add his passion and how he 1:14:05.479 --> 1:14:09.760 gets up for moments like that, his ability to get 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:14.599 the crowd going on home soil, how well he's played, 1:14:14.800 --> 1:14:16.840 the fact that he's won. You won a huge event 1:14:17.040 --> 1:14:20.599 just a few weeks ago at the Travelers. I don't 1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:23.880 know how he doesn't play. It's just it's such a 1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:30.760 difficult spot for him to be in. Ah. Yeah, it's 1:14:30.800 --> 1:14:32.280 gonna be fun for us to watch here over the 1:14:32.320 --> 1:14:34.200 next couple of months as things start to shake out. 1:14:34.560 --> 1:14:38.040 It's it's a much less turbulent over on the European side. 1:14:39.120 --> 1:14:43.640 The Europeans side, I think they effectively, especially with Maddy. 1:14:43.360 --> 1:14:44.479 Fits playing so well. 1:14:44.680 --> 1:14:48.080 Yeah, I think they effectively have like one spot available. 1:14:48.760 --> 1:14:54.360 I just don't see the team changing much from It's. 1:14:53.880 --> 1:14:56.519 Like the one spot's like which hoy guard do you take? 1:14:57.479 --> 1:15:00.519 You know, which is not a bad spot, especially with 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:03.280 their course fit. You illuminated to the like course fit 1:15:03.600 --> 1:15:06.400 and got her up and you're talking, I think you 1:15:06.439 --> 1:15:09.200 finished first and Strokes gained off the tee at Oakmont, 1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:14.200 did he Yeah, he was super impressive that week. 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:16.800 And if you look at the analytics of. 1:15:16.800 --> 1:15:19.799 Familiar it was fifth at the Open off the team. 1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:21.160 Fifth of the Open. 1:15:21.560 --> 1:15:24.360 You know, you're talking about a guy who's like sat 1:15:24.400 --> 1:15:26.960 toe to toe in three tournaments in the last two 1:15:27.000 --> 1:15:28.760 months with Rory McElroy. 1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:29.800 And outperformed him off the tee. 1:15:30.880 --> 1:15:32.360 And I think when you start to get in these 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:36.400 team competitions, and I'm really curious your perspective on this 1:15:36.520 --> 1:15:40.280 as someone who's captained the team seen the analytics, how 1:15:40.280 --> 1:15:45.200 do you weigh specific skill sets, particularly when you get 1:15:45.200 --> 1:15:48.040 in a team competition with where you're playing, you're not 1:15:48.040 --> 1:15:54.160 playing your individual ball I imagine for alternate shot and even 1:15:54.240 --> 1:15:59.880 best ball. When you have outlier players that can you know, Chris, 1:16:02.000 --> 1:16:04.200 he can dominate a golf course with his driver. 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:07.559 Does that get bumped up? 1:16:07.840 --> 1:16:10.680 Is particularly in an alternate shot format where you know 1:16:10.720 --> 1:16:12.880 you compare like I think one of the things that 1:16:13.000 --> 1:16:16.240 with this team and the course fit, I'll never forget. 1:16:16.320 --> 1:16:18.160 Jeff Ogilvie was on. 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:22.519 Before the PGA there a few years ago and he goes, Listen, 1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:27.000 this tournament is going to be won by one of 1:16:27.040 --> 1:16:29.519 the one of the unicorns of the sport that can 1:16:29.640 --> 1:16:33.400 just hit towering iron shots and hits the ball very far. 1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:38.800 He's like, I'm thinking Brooks, DJ, Rory, and he laid 1:16:38.840 --> 1:16:41.400 this out before and then you watch the event and 1:16:41.439 --> 1:16:45.200 it's Brooks and DJ and then Rory was playing with 1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:47.080 his sea Gabe and finished. 1:16:46.840 --> 1:16:48.280 The top ten that week. 1:16:48.479 --> 1:16:50.920 It was like, you know, you had this awful week 1:16:51.000 --> 1:16:52.760 and then you look at the leaderboard at that end 1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:55.000 of the tournament, it's like, oh, you finished eighth because 1:16:55.040 --> 1:16:57.680 of the golf courses. But you know the idea of 1:16:57.720 --> 1:17:00.960 like getting those shots off the tee that yield those 1:17:00.960 --> 1:17:03.160 short approaches to elevated targets. 1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:05.160 You know, got her up. You might not be a 1:17:05.200 --> 1:17:08.280 guy that you consider alternate shot, but it's like, oh, well, 1:17:08.760 --> 1:17:12.320 you know we could give Russell Henley the opportunity or 1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:15.960 someone of that ILK or Callum more Kaua or Jk's 1:17:16.000 --> 1:17:20.600 right on to play from from Chris gotterr Up's t 1:17:20.760 --> 1:17:25.840 shots on you know, nine holes, seven holes, probably eight holes, right. 1:17:26.320 --> 1:17:30.040 Yeah. So that's really what you do is you really 1:17:30.040 --> 1:17:33.160 start to understand the golf course and the challenge that 1:17:33.160 --> 1:17:36.200 that's going to present. How many part threes, how many 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:38.600 par fives do they fall on the odds or the 1:17:38.680 --> 1:17:42.880 evens when you're talking about alternate shot, and then you 1:17:42.960 --> 1:17:46.680 start to dial in your pairings in that way to 1:17:46.720 --> 1:17:50.160 where they can compliment each other, and then that model 1:17:50.280 --> 1:17:54.320 fits into the golf course as perfectly as possible. And really, 1:17:54.360 --> 1:17:57.800 when it comes to match play, if you've got a 1:17:57.840 --> 1:18:02.360 guy that's a great driver, they're pretty much always going 1:18:02.439 --> 1:18:07.160 to be in the hole. And in match play I 1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:09.280 find that so important. You know, you just don't want 1:18:09.280 --> 1:18:14.200 to gift your opponent easy wins on a hole. And 1:18:14.280 --> 1:18:16.240 when you've got a group of great drivers of the 1:18:16.240 --> 1:18:20.600 ball on a course that is long and demanding, it's 1:18:20.640 --> 1:18:24.760 a huge advantage to have. And I think that's what 1:18:24.840 --> 1:18:27.240 he could provide. I think, you know, it's still touch 1:18:27.280 --> 1:18:30.360 and go whether he gets put on this team. You 1:18:30.439 --> 1:18:35.200 have to weigh up the rookie aspect as well. You 1:18:35.240 --> 1:18:39.200 know how much pressure he's played under in his short 1:18:39.280 --> 1:18:42.719 professional career so far, how he's handled those things. They'll 1:18:42.760 --> 1:18:45.080 be looking at all this type of stuff and then 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:49.160 weighing that up amongst the players that are around him, 1:18:50.080 --> 1:18:52.439 and you know who's going to be able to team 1:18:52.520 --> 1:18:56.080 up well with who and managing the locker room and 1:18:56.160 --> 1:19:00.479 all those different kinds of things. But we're just performance 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:03.120 in the last couple of weeks and his skills set 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:07.479 matching with Beth Page from the tee, and the fact 1:19:07.479 --> 1:19:10.320 that you know, this is a new Jersey guy. He's 1:19:10.360 --> 1:19:13.559 going to be playing up in his part of the world, 1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:19.519 so to speak, could be could be quite fun and 1:19:19.600 --> 1:19:22.040 it's it's a nice option for them to have that 1:19:22.120 --> 1:19:25.439 they probably didn't think they were going to have four 1:19:25.520 --> 1:19:27.040 or five months ago. 1:19:27.160 --> 1:19:30.800 He's up to twenty second in points now after being 1:19:31.160 --> 1:19:34.800 you know, effectively nowhere near that two weeks ago. He 1:19:34.960 --> 1:19:38.360 moved up nineteen spots just signed the Open performance, so 1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:41.519 the Scottish probably moved him up about twenty spots too now, 1:19:41.640 --> 1:19:42.400 I mean before. 1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:44.519 The Scottish Open he was like I think I'm going 1:19:44.560 --> 1:19:47.600 to say, was between eighty five and ninetieth and the 1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:50.559 FedEx Cup, and all of a sudden in two weeks 1:19:50.560 --> 1:19:54.160 he's he's looking to go all the way to the 1:19:54.200 --> 1:19:55.080 Tour Championship. 1:19:56.160 --> 1:19:59.360 Yeah, he's so he's moved itself way up. I think, 1:19:59.400 --> 1:20:01.880 like something to note just I always think about this. 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:05.519 The last time the US had held a Ryder Cup, 1:20:05.640 --> 1:20:11.360 Whistling straight one of the somewhat surprised selections on the 1:20:11.439 --> 1:20:16.040 team was a rookie, a rookie Ryder Cupper who had never. 1:20:16.240 --> 1:20:20.000 Yet to win. Scotty Scotty Scheffler. 1:20:20.640 --> 1:20:25.320 Turns out, turns out that Steve Stricken knew what he 1:20:25.400 --> 1:20:26.400 was doing with that pick. 1:20:29.600 --> 1:20:32.080 I got brought up yesterday. Actually, I don't know if 1:20:32.080 --> 1:20:35.719 you saw this quote. I think I have this here, 1:20:37.000 --> 1:20:40.479 John Rahm, Uh, I don't. 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:42.000 I didn't. I didn't pull this out. 1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:47.760 But John ram got asked about Scottie and he brought 1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:51.920 up if everybody remembers Rob was Rob was the European 1:20:52.000 --> 1:20:53.400 star that Ryder cup. 1:20:53.439 --> 1:20:55.599 I think he was four and oh or three. 1:20:55.560 --> 1:21:00.280 Oh one going into Sunday singles and you know they 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:02.960 they did the pairings. I remember this Rom was. I 1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:05.840 think he was third out. I remember because I went out. 1:21:05.960 --> 1:21:08.200 I was like, this is you know from can this 1:21:08.240 --> 1:21:10.800 is the way that the Euros come back, you know, Rom. 1:21:11.280 --> 1:21:12.840 They put a bunch of points on the board. 1:21:12.920 --> 1:21:15.720 So Rom it was thought that Scotty was like the 1:21:15.800 --> 1:21:20.559 sacrificial lamb, and I think he was five up through five. 1:21:21.640 --> 1:21:25.519 That's exactly right, and John that that is still living 1:21:25.760 --> 1:21:29.080 renfree in John's mind. I mean he brought yesterday I 1:21:29.080 --> 1:21:33.679 saw that you know, you go, he still remembers that day, 1:21:34.400 --> 1:21:37.599 and they've had they've had great battles through the years 1:21:38.360 --> 1:21:43.400 at major championships, and but that moment still sticks out 1:21:43.400 --> 1:21:43.840 to John. 1:21:45.800 --> 1:21:47.200 I it maybe. 1:21:47.080 --> 1:21:54.439 Yeah, something I was I was watching. He effectively said like, yeah, 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:56.120 I mean, like look what he did to me in 1:21:56.200 --> 1:21:58.120 the Ryder Cup a couple of years ago. 1:21:59.600 --> 1:22:02.200 But like something I was thinking about when Rom was 1:22:02.200 --> 1:22:06.080 finishing yesterday and Bryson was finishing around the same time. 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:10.920 You know, it's a bummer that we only have the 1:22:10.960 --> 1:22:16.040 opportunity of these duels with Rom and Bryson right now, 1:22:16.240 --> 1:22:21.920 and you know, to a lesser extent Brooks, when they're 1:22:21.960 --> 1:22:24.519 at these four majors, you just don't have the chance 1:22:24.720 --> 1:22:26.760 to get a lot of duels. And I just think 1:22:26.800 --> 1:22:32.439 about this week I thought was the smallest chatter about 1:22:33.160 --> 1:22:40.160 Live PGA Tour reunification at a major since the whole split. 1:22:42.120 --> 1:22:46.920 It feels to be like they're very much kind of 1:22:46.960 --> 1:22:49.840 two ships operating with their own set of set of 1:22:49.840 --> 1:22:55.080 directions and plans. And it was it that was one 1:22:55.160 --> 1:22:58.120 of the things I have thought about with the Scotty ascension. 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:04.920 It has occurred coincidentally when Rom like these are just 1:23:04.960 --> 1:23:09.240 guys that might have been, that could have moments where 1:23:09.280 --> 1:23:12.040 Scotty maybe doesn't close out a fifty four hole lead. 1:23:12.080 --> 1:23:14.320 I'm not saying this is not saying that he but 1:23:14.720 --> 1:23:19.479 these are players that could answer the bell, the top 1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:22.800 contenders to answer the bell and go take one to 1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:27.559 Scotty along with Rory and Xander and Colin Morrikawa and 1:23:27.600 --> 1:23:31.080 these other other elite players in the game. But it 1:23:31.600 --> 1:23:35.680 just sucks that we're just limited to four events a 1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:39.600 year for those those occurrences to happen because the probability 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:42.799 of these guys playing at their best is just limited. 1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:48.920 At the same time, Yeah, yeah, but you know, it 1:23:49.000 --> 1:23:50.960 is what it is now it is. 1:23:51.360 --> 1:23:55.280 I mean, look, they got they got some paperwork to you. 1:23:55.760 --> 1:23:59.719 Those players, those players made a decision to go play 1:23:59.720 --> 1:24:04.400 on tour, and the way it's worked out, we only 1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:07.000 get to see him up against each other at the Majors, 1:24:07.240 --> 1:24:15.240 and in a certain respect, it's heightened the intensity of 1:24:15.280 --> 1:24:21.479 the Majors even more. Bryson has absolutely found a way 1:24:21.600 --> 1:24:26.840 to be in the hunt at pretty much all of them. Yeah, 1:24:28.120 --> 1:24:31.320 and it seems like he's raised the level of his game. 1:24:31.680 --> 1:24:33.880 Not quite so much for John. I mean, he showed 1:24:33.960 --> 1:24:40.720 signs this year, definitely playing better than what he did 1:24:40.720 --> 1:24:43.920 in twenty twenty four, but still not quite at the 1:24:43.960 --> 1:24:45.840 point to where you feel like he's going to be 1:24:47.280 --> 1:24:49.320 challenging those top guys for the minute. 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:54.519 I you know, everybody makes decisions, but we talked a 1:24:54.560 --> 1:24:59.559 lot about the mentality of Scheffler, the approach to the game, 1:25:00.640 --> 1:25:04.720 the long range, you know, kind of implications of the 1:25:04.800 --> 1:25:09.920 decisions he's made. Owning how you get to come into 1:25:10.000 --> 1:25:14.519 a major championship, I think is a very important thing. 1:25:16.479 --> 1:25:19.800 And I think that that's one of probably maybe the 1:25:19.880 --> 1:25:25.880 thing that that Rom didn't consider, was how a move 1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:29.400 and not being able to set up your schedule exactly 1:25:29.439 --> 1:25:33.360 how you want to prep for a major championship can reduce, 1:25:33.760 --> 1:25:35.720 you know, your ability and you never you don't know 1:25:35.760 --> 1:25:39.280 these things, like I think for Bryson, this schedule, the 1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:42.880 way that Live setup has been great for him, you know, 1:25:44.000 --> 1:25:47.240 but but for John I don't think it's clicked. And 1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:50.800 you look at you know, these guys were kind of 1:25:50.880 --> 1:25:54.599 running running in a dead heat when he left or Live, 1:25:54.960 --> 1:25:57.240 and at this point it is, you know, I think, 1:25:57.560 --> 1:25:59.640 you know, it's got to be tough for Rom to 1:26:00.000 --> 1:26:04.520 answer questions about about Scottie being and Skotty. 1:26:04.160 --> 1:26:06.600 Being at a different level, when when he left for 1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:09.639 Live he probably felt he was at at the same level. 1:26:11.320 --> 1:26:14.719 Yeah, I'd say that's fair. I would say that's fair. 1:26:15.800 --> 1:26:18.960 And by the way, I'm not dodging you at all. 1:26:19.000 --> 1:26:23.519 I mean, I'm not going to dive deep in. But yeah, 1:26:23.600 --> 1:26:26.679 we did did get some paperwork and we're rarely happy 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:31.360 that we did at awgr So you know, we'll see 1:26:31.360 --> 1:26:35.559 how things unfold. But you go back to Rahm here 1:26:37.160 --> 1:26:41.599 Strokes gained off the tee. He was fifteenth on approach. 1:26:41.680 --> 1:26:45.840 He was pretty much even for the field at seventy third, 1:26:46.439 --> 1:26:52.960 so he was neutral on approach and then fifty first 1:26:52.960 --> 1:26:57.640 in putting. So just really middle of the pack in 1:26:57.720 --> 1:27:03.000 a couple of very important areas. And it just hasn't 1:27:03.040 --> 1:27:09.120 quite found it that special source over the last at 1:27:09.160 --> 1:27:13.200 the majors, over the last twelve months. 1:27:13.640 --> 1:27:16.519 I mean, I think it's probably across all of it 1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:19.120 he hasn't he has. It's not like he's been racking 1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:20.680 up wins. I think, like you know, when you look 1:27:20.720 --> 1:27:23.800 at lives, Joaquin Neeman's kind of been like the guy 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:25.760 that you're like, oh, look at all the winds he's got, 1:27:25.920 --> 1:27:29.000 you know, and uh, but it's hard. 1:27:29.040 --> 1:27:29.960 Golf's hard. It's it. 1:27:31.040 --> 1:27:33.360 The other aspect of it is that the majors now 1:27:33.400 --> 1:27:36.799 for John rom carry way more weight than before he left, 1:27:37.160 --> 1:27:40.840 you know, because of the you know what, you can 1:27:40.920 --> 1:27:45.280 say like media should pay more attention to the live tour, 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:48.519 but the reality is like it they operate in a 1:27:48.560 --> 1:27:54.400 state of semi irrerelevance for the rest of the year 1:27:55.439 --> 1:28:00.160 except for four majors. So it naturally just raises the expectation, 1:28:00.360 --> 1:28:04.840 the level and the importance of these events. And we 1:28:05.040 --> 1:28:07.759 just you know, I think like that's where for Scotty 1:28:07.880 --> 1:28:09.559 it feels like it's just another week. 1:28:09.960 --> 1:28:15.760 Yeah. I think that's a very good point. And you know, 1:28:15.760 --> 1:28:19.559 it's tricky because when you get to the majors, everything 1:28:19.640 --> 1:28:24.040 is heightened. But for some of these players, like you 1:28:24.160 --> 1:28:32.120 mentioned Nieman, the pressure is is like exponentially more because 1:28:32.920 --> 1:28:35.320 in a certain way, he gets to these four big 1:28:35.360 --> 1:28:39.120 ones and it's like he's trying to prove to everybody 1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:43.280 that he is at that level of let's call it 1:28:43.320 --> 1:28:47.920 a top ten, top fifteen, top twenty player in the world, 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:56.280 and major championships are on such an edge knife edge anyway, 1:28:56.400 --> 1:28:59.120 and when you start to heap extra pressure onto that, 1:28:59.720 --> 1:29:05.439 it's a tough world to live in. And so you 1:29:05.479 --> 1:29:07.639 can kind of see him battling that when he comes 1:29:07.640 --> 1:29:11.360 to the Major Championships and you know, then he finished 1:29:11.400 --> 1:29:14.120 two over and he walks up the green and you know, 1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:18.400 you can see the frustration. On eighteen ends up missing 1:29:18.400 --> 1:29:20.479 the cup by a shot. I can't believe the cut 1:29:20.600 --> 1:29:24.120 went to one. Oh. I mean, the wind is completely 1:29:24.200 --> 1:29:26.240 laid down, and guys all of a sudden made a 1:29:26.240 --> 1:29:29.640 few birdies and now he's sitting on the couch for 1:29:29.680 --> 1:29:34.600 the weekend. And you know, unfortunately for him, the unimpressive 1:29:34.680 --> 1:29:39.080 play at the Major Championships is is what people think 1:29:39.120 --> 1:29:40.840 about when when you bring his name up. 1:29:42.520 --> 1:29:45.880 And I just want to be uh, be clear here, 1:29:47.240 --> 1:29:51.680 that's that's what all the money was for. These are 1:29:51.720 --> 1:29:55.479 things that might not have been considered you when they 1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:58.040 made the decision, but at the end of the day, 1:29:59.120 --> 1:30:01.720 that's what the money is for. That's you sign you 1:30:01.760 --> 1:30:04.479 sign up for this, and you know, part of part 1:30:04.520 --> 1:30:07.920 of the ramifications for for going over there was that 1:30:08.640 --> 1:30:10.600 you know, you, all of a sudden, we're going to 1:30:10.640 --> 1:30:19.439 be evaluated and whether it's fair or unfair evaluated, and 1:30:19.560 --> 1:30:22.400 your career was going to be hinging on how you 1:30:22.439 --> 1:30:26.280 play four weeks a year and more so than any 1:30:26.320 --> 1:30:29.200 other player, than any player that's playing on the PGA Tour. 1:30:29.400 --> 1:30:32.960 And whether that's fair or unfair, that's what all the money, 1:30:33.320 --> 1:30:36.800 part of what all the money was for, you know, And. 1:30:36.800 --> 1:30:40.880 I don't know it'll be. It'll be as it keeps going. 1:30:41.200 --> 1:30:41.400 You know. 1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:46.000 Obviously contracts are are running up, but uh, and some 1:30:46.040 --> 1:30:50.120 players will be kind of who knows what they're doing 1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:53.080 next year as soon as that. But you know, other 1:30:53.120 --> 1:30:55.639 players like John you know he's got three more years 1:30:55.640 --> 1:31:02.160 over there at the Minuteum. 1:30:59.479 --> 1:31:07.080 Yeah, I don't really know, to be honest with you, 1:31:07.160 --> 1:31:11.439 not too many people know exactly what is in these 1:31:11.439 --> 1:31:16.599 guys contracts and how many years. I mean, you hear 1:31:16.680 --> 1:31:22.200 chatter about it, but I don't really know too much 1:31:22.240 --> 1:31:26.439 about that. So we'll have to see how things unfold. 1:31:28.479 --> 1:31:34.840 Any any other party thoughts from the open English? How 1:31:34.880 --> 1:31:37.200 about Harris English? What a year now? 1:31:37.200 --> 1:31:39.519 You talk talk about a guy that's on the Ryder 1:31:39.600 --> 1:31:44.280 Cup team. Harris will be there and he deserves to 1:31:44.360 --> 1:31:55.000 be there. He is extremely talented, beautiful game, classy, classy game, 1:31:55.120 --> 1:32:01.640 classy looking player and swing and love it everything about him. 1:32:02.000 --> 1:32:05.599 Great guy, and they are two runner ups in majors. 1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:09.600 I mean the PGA Championship was a little bit of 1:32:09.640 --> 1:32:12.679 a backdoor, but still we must. 1:32:12.439 --> 1:32:13.400 Come out of the door. 1:32:14.479 --> 1:32:16.400 To me, in my mind, I have that as a 1:32:16.479 --> 1:32:19.880 genre runner up. No matter what the results say. In 1:32:19.920 --> 1:32:21.800 my mind, I will always think of that as a 1:32:21.880 --> 1:32:23.320 genre runner runner up. 1:32:24.400 --> 1:32:26.600 Yeah, I hear you. I mean it was. 1:32:26.640 --> 1:32:27.400 It was. 1:32:27.520 --> 1:32:29.960 It was a fun just thinking back to the PGA 1:32:30.080 --> 1:32:34.840 Championship was a really fun last hour or so, you know, 1:32:34.920 --> 1:32:37.639 once they got to fourteen and the driverball paw four 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:41.639 and the way things played out between Rahm and Scheffler 1:32:41.640 --> 1:32:44.559 and a few other guys from you know, fourteen and fifteen, 1:32:44.600 --> 1:32:47.600 which are your two opportunities, and then you're sort of 1:32:47.600 --> 1:32:51.640 hanging on down sixteen seventeen eighteen. It was in my 1:32:51.800 --> 1:32:58.880 mind it was an exciting, brilliant last hour. And all 1:32:58.920 --> 1:33:03.440 the major championships this year I thought were just spectacular. 1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:05.640 You know, you think about the roller coaster at the 1:33:05.680 --> 1:33:10.080 Masters with all that history on the line, and then 1:33:10.320 --> 1:33:13.799 you think about that last hour of the PGA Championship. 1:33:13.600 --> 1:33:16.840 And with like Scotty, you know, the story of twenty 1:33:16.880 --> 1:33:20.880 twenty four. Then he has the hand thing that wasn't 1:33:20.920 --> 1:33:24.000 really in form earlier in the year. It's like, oh, 1:33:24.040 --> 1:33:26.000 he's back, He's back to form. 1:33:26.640 --> 1:33:29.960 Yeah, I mean people people were wondering, you know. That 1:33:30.120 --> 1:33:34.320 was another another famous Twitter debate or ex debate I 1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:40.240 got into with a legend of the game, whether Scotty 1:33:40.280 --> 1:33:43.639 would win or not before the Ryder Cup. That's gotten 1:33:43.680 --> 1:33:47.000 a lot of play over the last few months. 1:33:47.479 --> 1:33:51.080 But no, one the receis didn't turn out good for 1:33:51.600 --> 1:33:52.719 that legend of the game. 1:33:53.000 --> 1:33:56.880 No it didn't. But you know, the PGA Championship was 1:33:56.920 --> 1:34:01.240 fun and exciting. The last hour of the US Open 1:34:01.560 --> 1:34:04.400 was just about as dramatic as it can get with 1:34:04.479 --> 1:34:10.639 the weather and then the standing water and the ball 1:34:10.760 --> 1:34:14.360 is just like squirting all over the place. And then 1:34:14.400 --> 1:34:17.519 you get JJ making a seventy something footer on the 1:34:17.600 --> 1:34:23.440 last hole that was quite something as the sun is setting, basically, 1:34:24.439 --> 1:34:28.920 and then we get Scotty putting an exclamation point on 1:34:29.000 --> 1:34:32.040 the season at the Open, and now three legs into 1:34:32.040 --> 1:34:35.679 the Grand Slam. And by the way, you know, he's 1:34:35.680 --> 1:34:39.960 clearly shown that he understands Augusta National and knows exactly 1:34:40.000 --> 1:34:44.280 how to play that golf course. But I would struggle 1:34:44.320 --> 1:34:48.000 to think of another major where he could separate himself 1:34:48.080 --> 1:34:49.160 more than the US. 1:34:49.040 --> 1:34:50.760 Open at Shinnecock. 1:34:51.400 --> 1:34:55.200 Well, look at all of their venues over the next decade. Yeah, 1:34:55.600 --> 1:34:59.320 when you have that sort of precision and discipline and 1:34:59.400 --> 1:35:04.520 control over your ball, the US Open is where it's at. 1:35:05.320 --> 1:35:07.599 And so that's gonna be a fun ride for us. 1:35:07.720 --> 1:35:10.559 And uh, you know, my my overriding thought is I'm 1:35:10.600 --> 1:35:13.000 a little I'm a little sad. I'm a little sad 1:35:13.040 --> 1:35:16.439 the majors are over. I don't like it's been a 1:35:16.479 --> 1:35:19.280 great year for major championships. 1:35:19.600 --> 1:35:25.160 I liked the August and more than this, you know, 1:35:26.080 --> 1:35:29.519 where you have the Open end too, August. I think 1:35:30.200 --> 1:35:32.839 the PGA in August, the you know, like the idea 1:35:32.840 --> 1:35:34.679 of majors going. 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:37.000 From April to August a little bit more. 1:35:37.160 --> 1:35:40.200 I think I've said this before, but like the fact 1:35:40.240 --> 1:35:42.599 that it's over, It's like, the nice thing is we've 1:35:42.640 --> 1:35:44.160 got some some great events. 1:35:44.240 --> 1:35:45.599 We've got the Walker Cup. 1:35:46.280 --> 1:35:48.160 Yeah, it's gonna be great at Cypress Point. 1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:50.840 Yeah, at Cypre's Point, We've got the We've got the 1:35:50.920 --> 1:35:55.880 Ryder Cup. I mean, we've got no more net Tour Championship. 1:35:55.960 --> 1:35:56.479 We got. 1:35:56.640 --> 1:35:58.800 That's a positive. What are you gonna make fun of now? 1:35:59.479 --> 1:35:59.960 I don't know. 1:36:00.120 --> 1:36:02.840 Oh, you guys are gonna have to cook something else 1:36:02.960 --> 1:36:03.360 up now. 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:04.160 I mean. 1:36:06.280 --> 1:36:08.880 When you live in the content game, when you when 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:12.040 you make content for a living, you're not always rooting 1:36:12.160 --> 1:36:17.439 for the the rational outcome. You know, sometimes you know 1:36:17.840 --> 1:36:22.160 it named things like uh like having a handicapped season 1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:26.320 and tournament or the best thing for the content business. 1:36:26.360 --> 1:36:29.519 You know. Now you're gonna have to dream something else up. 1:36:29.640 --> 1:36:33.440 But why you like it? I like, you haven't Patrick 1:36:33.520 --> 1:36:36.120 Reid around? You know I missed him a little bit. 1:36:36.400 --> 1:36:38.760 Is that he was good for the content game. He 1:36:38.840 --> 1:36:40.080 was good for my job. 1:36:43.160 --> 1:36:49.639 Yeah he is, he is. But this year, this year 1:36:49.680 --> 1:36:53.240 has gone so fast. I mean, I can't believe it. 1:36:53.280 --> 1:36:56.439 At CBS, we only have two events left, you know, 1:36:56.479 --> 1:36:58.439 we have the three M this weekend and then the 1:36:58.479 --> 1:37:01.840 window and we're golf season is done. It feels like 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:05.640 it feels like yesterday we were starting at the Farmers 1:37:05.640 --> 1:37:11.360 and Tory Pines. It has gone so fast. 1:37:11.720 --> 1:37:14.720 Well, I you know I've said this before on this podcast. 1:37:14.760 --> 1:37:19.040 It's my belief is life gets faster every year of 1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:22.960 your life because it becomes less of a percentage of 1:37:23.000 --> 1:37:26.040 your life. So when you're ten, one year is ten 1:37:26.080 --> 1:37:30.280 percent of your life, so it feels very long. But 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:34.439 when you're you know, thirty three, it's you know whatever, 1:37:34.520 --> 1:37:35.639 three percent of your life. 1:37:35.720 --> 1:37:38.120 Right, It's just. 1:37:40.240 --> 1:37:43.479 It's flown by, and we got some good golf. We've 1:37:43.520 --> 1:37:46.880 got some good golf. With the playoffs come in, I 1:37:46.960 --> 1:37:50.839 think it's going to be very interesting. You know. Now, 1:37:51.360 --> 1:37:54.000 it's quite cutthroat really when you think about you've gotta 1:37:54.000 --> 1:37:57.519 be top hundred, you gotta be top seventy seventy, get 1:37:57.600 --> 1:37:59.920 in the playoffs, and then you've got to be top five, 1:38:00.280 --> 1:38:05.000 which gives these guys the signature events next year. So 1:38:05.320 --> 1:38:11.000 it's that's a pretty tough gig and then right, awesome. 1:38:11.160 --> 1:38:15.599 I'd love what you know, it's the idea of I think, 1:38:15.640 --> 1:38:19.280 like if you made the tour even more cutthroat, slightly 1:38:19.400 --> 1:38:23.479 more cutthroat, what it's done for the John Deere's, the 1:38:23.520 --> 1:38:27.879 three Ms, the Rockets, the you know, the American Express, 1:38:28.080 --> 1:38:33.080 the the value. I mean, you just see more big 1:38:33.160 --> 1:38:35.320 names playing these events than ever before. 1:38:35.720 --> 1:38:39.040 Yeah, I agree with you. The tour took a lot 1:38:39.040 --> 1:38:44.519 of heat when they made these changes. And it's really 1:38:44.560 --> 1:38:47.720 played out that they were. They were quite correct with 1:38:47.840 --> 1:38:52.120 the advent of the signature events and creating these cutoffs. 1:38:54.160 --> 1:38:58.920 All the other tournaments have had stronger fields, and you're right, 1:38:59.000 --> 1:39:01.400 John Deere had best field that's head in a long time. 1:39:01.479 --> 1:39:04.400 At Detroit had a great field. And then you look 1:39:04.439 --> 1:39:06.600 at the Scottish Chaupmin where you had nineteen of the 1:39:06.600 --> 1:39:09.000 top twenty five in the world playing the Scottish opin. 1:39:10.320 --> 1:39:10.960 It's pretty cool. 1:39:11.040 --> 1:39:13.519 Yeah, the Detroit might go down as the term of 1:39:13.560 --> 1:39:16.679 the year with Pockater getting it done. 1:39:16.920 --> 1:39:20.559 You know, that's right. It was great, great for great 1:39:20.600 --> 1:39:21.519 for South Africa. 1:39:22.680 --> 1:39:23.160 That's right. 1:39:23.600 --> 1:39:27.920 So it's a shotgun start favorite there. All right, Well, hey, 1:39:28.280 --> 1:39:30.919 enjoy enjoy Plaine this weekend. 1:39:31.600 --> 1:39:34.240 Yeah, I will. I'm looking forward to it. I'm going 1:39:34.320 --> 1:39:39.599 up Friday morning. And you know, we start to see, 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:43.479 like we just touched on it different side of the 1:39:43.520 --> 1:39:46.080 spectrum because in the next two weeks you're going to 1:39:46.120 --> 1:39:48.920 see guys really jostling for those cutoffs. 1:39:49.400 --> 1:39:52.679 And I mean Max Holmeer was playing the Barracuda this week. 1:39:53.200 --> 1:39:57.360 Yeah, credit to him, man, he's playing. He's playing whenever 1:39:57.439 --> 1:40:02.040 he can play, and he's out there and fighting. I've 1:40:02.040 --> 1:40:09.559 been there. It's not easy, and you know, gives your 1:40:09.640 --> 1:40:13.280 ego a little bit of a knock. But I have 1:40:13.280 --> 1:40:15.760 a ton of respect for him getting out there and 1:40:16.520 --> 1:40:19.240 grinding it out. That's what you gotta do. And the 1:40:19.280 --> 1:40:23.519 beauty about our sport is we were just talking about 1:40:23.600 --> 1:40:25.400 Chris got her up. I mean, Chris got her up 1:40:25.400 --> 1:40:27.280 two weeks ago was thinking about how he's going to 1:40:27.400 --> 1:40:30.320 keep his card, and now he's thinking about getting into 1:40:30.760 --> 1:40:33.360 the Tour Championship and making the Ryder Cup team so 1:40:33.400 --> 1:40:36.760 it can turn on a dime and hopefully for Max 1:40:36.800 --> 1:40:37.360 that happens. 1:40:37.800 --> 1:40:40.200 I think he's playing Minnesota, got her up. 1:40:41.400 --> 1:40:42.559 That course suits him too. 1:40:44.400 --> 1:40:46.800 Good course to drive it well, good course to. 1:40:46.960 --> 1:40:48.720 Tee it high and let it fly. 1:40:50.760 --> 1:40:54.320 All right, Trevor, we'll talk again at some point. This 1:40:54.360 --> 1:40:56.919 has been delightful having you on for all the majors, 1:40:56.920 --> 1:41:00.719 so thank you for joining us. It's been been really 1:41:00.720 --> 1:41:04.800 fun chatting going deep on each of these majors, and 1:41:05.240 --> 1:41:09.320 we'll talk soon. But enjoy your time in Minneapolis and 1:41:09.760 --> 1:41:11.400 a little time off. I'm sure you're gonna be playing 1:41:11.400 --> 1:41:12.000 a lot of golf. 1:41:12.560 --> 1:41:15.320 Yeah, I'm hoping to be playing a lot of golf 1:41:15.760 --> 1:41:18.320 right off to the window. I've got closed to five 1:41:18.360 --> 1:41:22.960 months off. So a few other things I'm involved in 1:41:23.000 --> 1:41:24.400 which take up some of my time. 1:41:24.600 --> 1:41:26.880 But get through some paperwork. 1:41:27.120 --> 1:41:30.880 Got to get through some paperwork and hopefully some time 1:41:30.880 --> 1:41:33.880 on the range and we can play golf soon together. 1:41:34.280 --> 1:41:37.280 Well we should, We got we gotta play. Yeah, go 1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:39.320 figure out when we're going to be in the same place. 1:41:39.760 --> 1:41:43.360 Yeah, love to all right, talk to you soon, Trevor. 1:41:43.520 --> 1:41:57.080 All right, Andy cheers, all right, that does it. 1:41:57.960 --> 1:42:02.040 Thanks again for coming along with these majors. I can't 1:42:02.040 --> 1:42:04.519 wait for twenty twenty six as majors. But we've got 1:42:04.560 --> 1:42:08.080 a lot of big events coming up. I was this week, 1:42:08.160 --> 1:42:11.360 actually I was at Walker Cup media day. That's going 1:42:11.400 --> 1:42:14.560 to be a spectacle. There's only twelve hours of television 1:42:14.560 --> 1:42:16.760 coverage for that event, but we will do some big 1:42:16.800 --> 1:42:19.519 stuff for that. We'll have a video about the golf course. 1:42:20.400 --> 1:42:25.840 That's Ciper's point this year and excited for that. You 1:42:25.880 --> 1:42:28.679 know you got the playoffs, you get the Race to Dubai, 1:42:28.920 --> 1:42:32.120 and you know you got the Women's Open coming up 1:42:32.640 --> 1:42:35.400 at Royal Force Call. Lots of good events coming up, 1:42:35.439 --> 1:42:37.559 and of course you have the Ryder Cup this fall 1:42:37.720 --> 1:42:43.240 that will kind of dominate the August into September discourse. 1:42:43.640 --> 1:42:46.599 So big thanks to Trevor for coming on giving us 1:42:46.640 --> 1:42:51.320 his time this major season, and also huge thanks to 1:42:51.360 --> 1:42:55.479 PJ for producing, editing, getting this podcast, keeping us on 1:42:55.600 --> 1:43:00.000 the rails. We will be back next week and thanks 1:43:00.000 --> 1:43:02.400 thanks for a great major season. I really appreciate you 1:43:02.400 --> 1:43:03.599 guys coming along with us.