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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Littlecock Three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast Thursday afternoon. Probably listen to this on a Friday

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Speaker 1: or Saturday. Appreciate everyone listening. Uh, you know, usually non

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Speaker 1: football season, and I didn't even count training camp, not

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Speaker 1: I usually record relatively early, probably early afternoon, but you know,

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Speaker 1: today golf's on. I had some other work to do,

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Speaker 1: pushed it a little later. It's like eight o'clock. But

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Speaker 1: I just made a mistake. I was kind of hungry,

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Speaker 1: And then I realized, God, I haven't recorded the three

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Speaker 1: gotta lock in here. Training camps full go. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about something that about a coach that actually got

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Speaker 1: in a bad motorcycle accident. But it got me thinking

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Speaker 1: of the importance of your assistant coaches over the next month. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the top twenty five came out, and I never put

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Speaker 1: that much stock into the preseason top twenty five just

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Speaker 1: because I mean, so much of it's based on last year.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks change, coordinators change. We see it all the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, that the

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Speaker 1: main teams will be there. But even on given years

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Speaker 1: like they could Alabama has a year where they missed

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I just think for the last definitely

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Speaker 1: four or five years, the same teams the top five

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Speaker 1: past like five or six, you know, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a crapshoot. You know, Texas, Notre Dame. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see, but it's a big year with

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Speaker 1: no you know, none of these non conference games. I

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Speaker 1: mean a big reason Oregon was not in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: but they lost that opening game to Auvern and that

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Speaker 1: a big moment for the Pack twelve. Especially for Oregon

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Speaker 1: that they should run the table. It's gonna be hard

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Speaker 1: when I say that, relative to last year, probably still

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Speaker 1: win nine games. Alabama's replacing two. Uh. I think Georgia

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Speaker 1: be a little shocked if we get an undefeated SEC team.

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Speaker 1: But well, we'll dive into all that and then a

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Speaker 1: something that I saw, actually didn't see it. I heard

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Speaker 1: it on Michael Lombardi's podcast and he mentioned that Howard

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Speaker 1: mud the famous offensive line coach, got into a bad,

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Speaker 1: know the details of the accident. Clearly not good. And

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that taught me when I because I

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Speaker 1: remember during the draft process, your coaches play a big

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Speaker 1: role that you know, you take lists to every coach, right,

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Speaker 1: so your offensive line coach when you're you know, a

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Speaker 1: And I remember one time saying we were just talking

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Speaker 1: It was insane we hired him and Jim Washburn. You know,

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Speaker 1: But I'll never forget Howard because I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: an athlete. He can't play left tackle? He's like, what

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Speaker 1: worth it, just like an elite dB coach is worth it.

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Speaker 1: I remember Howard Mud He was smart man. He really

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Speaker 1: you know, being Obviously Kelsey has turned into an elite player,

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Speaker 1: elite coaches. I've also been around some bad ones, and

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Speaker 1: famous guy opted out? Dante High Tower, Dante Hide Tower.

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Speaker 1: It was like true Avia's White's gonna opt in he's

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Speaker 1: playing right star Lottal. I could never say his name,

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Speaker 1: even though I evaluate him coming out, like he opted out.

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Speaker 1: You know what they did. They gave his money immediately

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Speaker 1: Stephan Dick's so I don't think Sean McDermott lost much

431
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Speaker 1: sleep over that. But in college, like all it takes

432
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Speaker 1: is some sweet player to opt out. Maybe his buddies

433
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Speaker 1: due too, and they're like, let's just wait till next year.

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Speaker 1: It could get weird. But if it doesn't get weird,

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Speaker 1: Oregon better make the playoffs this year. Okay, let's bang out.

436
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Speaker 1: Just some stories from around the league. First, one kind

437
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Speaker 1: of funny. I mean, it's a serious story, but it

438
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Speaker 1: turns out people making fun of it on social media.

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Speaker 1: I also kind of liked the idea Jon Gruden fake

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Speaker 1: having Corona his special team's coach Rich but Shashia. I

441
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Speaker 1: can never say his last name, but he's assistant head coach,

442
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Speaker 1: really good special teams coach. They brought him from Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Let's call him Rich, and I mean he's a really

444
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Speaker 1: good special teams coach. They open up their team meeting

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Speaker 1: on zoom because I think what some of these teams

446
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Speaker 1: are doing. Gruden said, they haven't even had a team

447
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Speaker 1: meeting yet in a room together. They've had separate like

448
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Speaker 1: group meetings, but they have these their team meeting. I

449
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: think they send guys home and then they do zooms

450
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Speaker 1: like this Corona thing is really complicated. But they get

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Speaker 1: on the team meeting and the zoom is rich Special

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Speaker 1: Teams coach and he says John Gruden has Corona and

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Speaker 1: he's headed to the hospital, and everyone freaks. Now the

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Speaker 1: head of the hospital, they probably didn't need to add it,

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Speaker 1: should have just said he asked Corona, He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be around. And then I think fifteen minutes later, John

457
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Speaker 1: Gruden shows up and starts talking and just shows like

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Speaker 1: the severity of this. At any moment someone go down.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy, and I actually we were

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Speaker 1: just talking about this on my other podcast. Hayrod Middlecoff

461
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Speaker 1: subscribe to that one as well, that Drew Brees. Like,

462
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Speaker 1: if I was Sean Payton, I would work with Drew

463
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Speaker 1: Brees and be like, one day when we come out

464
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Speaker 1: for a walkthrough or practice, we're gonna hide you and

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Speaker 1: just pretend you have Corona, because I think you're gonna

466
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Speaker 1: have to do things like that to really hammer home,

467
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Speaker 1: like the veteran guys aren't gonna need it, but younger

468
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Speaker 1: players to see the severity of this. We can't afford

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Speaker 1: you guys screwing around. This is too serious. We got

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Speaker 1: too much on the line. I love the idea by

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Speaker 1: John Gruden now said he said to the hospital, I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe you gotta hammer that a point. Oh but I

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Speaker 1: I I like that. I think that's kind of thinking

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Speaker 1: outside the box. But I also saw someone on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's exactly what Michael Scott would do,

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Speaker 1: so you could argue Groodon as a little Michael Scott

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Speaker 1: Stefan digs. I mentioned this earlier. We got the money

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Speaker 1: that star who opted out. They gave him a five

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Speaker 1: and a half million dollar bonus that he was owed.

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Speaker 1: I think in two years he's getting off your books.

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Speaker 1: Smart move. If I had players are opting out in

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Speaker 1: huge cap space, I would pay players that I had

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Speaker 1: on longer term con tracks that I could front load

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Speaker 1: more money so I didn't have to worry about it

485
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Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty one or two thousand twenty two,

486
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Speaker 1: especially because we don't know what the cap is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: It's all a huge question mark, right, now what the

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Speaker 1: money is gonna be? Like, Uh, the chief third rounder,

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Speaker 1: a kid from TCU, opted out offensive tackle. I think

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Speaker 1: he was gonna maybe they were gonna try him out

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Speaker 1: it at inter your offensive line because their guard who

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Speaker 1: also opted out, So they've had a couple of offensive

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Speaker 1: linemen opt out. Now that's never ideal. Now, their core guys,

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Speaker 1: I would say, are there's two tackles, but in their

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Speaker 1: center and guard aren't great anyway, and that is the

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Speaker 1: one position that I always think you can get by

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Speaker 1: with with undrafted free agents later round picks. But they

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Speaker 1: like this guy and I think he's a future tackle

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Speaker 1: for them now obviously not this year. This actually benefits

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Speaker 1: them as well because like his contracts starts a year

501
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Speaker 1: one next year, so you basically just get an extra

502
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Speaker 1: third round pick. Now. I know that doesn't help them

503
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and twenty, but I don't think it's

504
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Speaker 1: a total killer. One thing I saw Derek Carr said

505
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Speaker 1: that he's tired of being disrespected. Uh, I'm a believer

506
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Speaker 1: that that messages is coming from Gruden and mayok, like,

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Speaker 1: start taking a little pride and everyone talking shit about

508
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Speaker 1: you and stop taking it because we're tired of hearing

509
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Speaker 1: it now, I think part of it is, like, Derek,

510
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Speaker 1: you need to play better. Like I don't think the

511
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Speaker 1: disrespect from NFL analysts and you know, just people that

512
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Speaker 1: fall football. Most fans, I think would say that Derek

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Speaker 1: is not very good. I'd say, Derek, you've brought some

514
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Speaker 1: of that on yourself. You haven't been that good the

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Speaker 1: last three years. And I know he mentioned that he

516
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Speaker 1: was as good last year as he was the year

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Speaker 1: that he almost won the MVP that year that you

518
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Speaker 1: got hurt, Like, I'm sorry. I watched every snap that

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Speaker 1: season two thousand sixteen, and I watched a large majority

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Speaker 1: of him last year. It's just bullshit. Now, you might

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Speaker 1: be smarter, you might have a better understanding of what's

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Speaker 1: going on, but you're a better player. Then it's not

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Speaker 1: even arguable. I know I saw it. So you just

524
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Speaker 1: need to make more plays. Like you make plays, you

525
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Speaker 1: guys will win more and everyone will shut up. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just you don't need to say anything. Just just

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Speaker 1: make some place. Just no more talking certain guys. Just

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Speaker 1: just make place. You're paid a lot of money to

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Speaker 1: make place. Austin Hooper stayed with Baker Mayfield this year

530
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Speaker 1: or this off season, went to Austin, spent some time

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Speaker 1: with him. I guess not just off season. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's been the Corona season. Is when you look at

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, I do think he's taken his his you know,

534
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Speaker 1: physical fitness much more serious now that last year you

535
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: got really fat, and you can't be short, unathletic and

536
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Speaker 1: fat like it doesn't it doesn't work that way. Like

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you know, not a great athlete, not that tall,

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Speaker 1: but he's always in pristine shape. Like Baker, you gotta

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Speaker 1: work every advantage possible, like me, like myma, Tabolism at

540
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Speaker 1: thirty five is not great anymore. I can't afford to

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Speaker 1: just eat cupcakes, ice cream and pizza and hammers. Though

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Speaker 1: I love everything I just listed, I gotta change. Like Baker,

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Speaker 1: you are what you are. You know you are not

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Speaker 1: some supreme athlete in a league full of freaks. You're

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Speaker 1: in the lower end of athletes, like the bottom ten percent.

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Speaker 1: So you better look for every advantage. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'll tip my hat to you. You clearly did this

548
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Speaker 1: offseason in a weird time. You made an effort. Now

549
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: it's just time to play better. But I you know

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Speaker 1: it seems like he's doing everything he can in his control,

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Speaker 1: which I'll tip my hat to him. I love Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield coming out. I thought he had a chance to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, the next Drew Brees. But part of what

554
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Speaker 1: really makes Drew Brees is upstairs. His maturity, discipline, and

555
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Speaker 1: drive are unmatched. They're like Brady Peyton Manning, the dude's

556
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Speaker 1: a lunatic in a good way. Like you can't be

557
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Speaker 1: lazy party guy. You can be lazy party guy. And

558
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this guy is if you're take Kawan

559
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Speaker 1: Barkley and he's like, yeah, I'm the biggest freak on

560
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Speaker 1: the field, you can you can get by with that.

561
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Speaker 1: Like those types just freaks. At least early on your

562
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Speaker 1: professional career in pro sports, you can't. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: maintain it, like in your late twenties early thirties. But

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Speaker 1: four you can screw around a little bit. You have

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Speaker 1: room for air. But if you're not a great athlete,

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Speaker 1: you have to maximize everything that you can control to

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Speaker 1: your advantage. So I think Baker that's a huge step

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Speaker 1: for him this year is being really focused. Hollywood Brown Marquise,

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Speaker 1: the guy they drafted two years ago, the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 1: in the first round from Oklahoma. One thing I always

571
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Speaker 1: heard about people that went through the through Oklahoma is

572
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Speaker 1: that he was like a buck fifty five soaken wet,

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Speaker 1: I guess he's added twenty three pounds. He weighs a

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty pounds, should make a more durable. The one

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Speaker 1: key with him, his point of difference is speed. I

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Speaker 1: can live with him being one s one seventy Deshn Jackson.

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Speaker 1: His prime wasn't ninety pounds like no one can catch you.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, I got no problem out in the

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Speaker 1: weight as long as the speed maintains twenty three like

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Speaker 1: if if he's slower, then we've taken a step back.

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Speaker 1: So we need to find the right weight to maintain

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Speaker 1: the elite speed and whatever the most you can way

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Speaker 1: to maintain that week that elite speed. That's where we

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Speaker 1: cut The's where we draw a line. Because you were

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Speaker 1: drafting the first round to fly by guys. Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying any slow now, but it's just something to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on. Dion Jordan's signed with the forty niners.

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Speaker 1: What could have been I'm telling you I I was

589
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Speaker 1: doing the West Coast of the time. Dude was a

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Speaker 1: freak show at organ absolute freak show. They also had

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Speaker 1: these two guys. Was like, who's uh those two six

592
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Speaker 1: ft seven guys. It's like, oh, that's that's the Forrest

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Speaker 1: Buckner and that's Eric Armstead. Like God, what what year

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Speaker 1: those guys? That guy is a true freshman. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: that guy's a true freshman. Those guys are freshman and Deon.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dion was way better than those guys his

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Speaker 1: junior or senior year and those guys freshman year, but

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Speaker 1: it was clear they were all just major freaks. Now

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Speaker 1: the Forest now makes twenty one million a year. Eric

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Speaker 1: Armstead makes seventeen and resurrected his career these last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, and Dion just kind of fell off of

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Speaker 1: you know, just Miami drafted him. He was a three

603
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Speaker 1: or four out on linebacker. They ran a four three.

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Speaker 1: It was a terrible fit. He clearly had some maturity issues.

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Speaker 1: He had some he had had issues early on in

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Speaker 1: his college career, which is substances, and clearly turned it

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Speaker 1: around and became a straight lace guy. And then he

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Speaker 1: got to the NFL and it felt like he started

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Speaker 1: getting spend it again, you know, I'm not putting much

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Speaker 1: stock into this, but clearly, you know what, he's just

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Speaker 1: a physical anomaly. It's where a guy like that like

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Speaker 1: gets he's gonna have a six seven year career even

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Speaker 1: when it was a quote unquote bus because he was

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Speaker 1: I think it was a third pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: maybe the fourth. Yeah, I think it was a third,

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Speaker 1: But man, what could have been with that guy? Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into this thing we like to call the

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Speaker 1: middle Coop. Mail back at John middlecoff Instagram handle. Got

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Speaker 1: an instant, give me a follow shooting the d MS

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Speaker 1: wide open. I hang out there sometimes and just talk

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Speaker 1: on stories. But let's fire through some questions. On your

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Speaker 1: show on Tuesday, you mentioned how would be really difficult

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Speaker 1: to analyze rookies. It's time consuming to go through all

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Speaker 1: the first and second round picks. But what players do

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Speaker 1: you think are best equipped to handle this weird offseason

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Speaker 1: and hit the ground running coming week one? Well, I'd

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Speaker 1: say the defensive lineman are gonna have an advantage as

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Speaker 1: long as they're in shape. Chase Young kin law, uh

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Speaker 1: is it? Chase On? I think the Jags took who

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Speaker 1: knows what's gonna happen to Yonick. I'm just I don't

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Speaker 1: have the draft pulled on. I'm just thinking off my

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Speaker 1: head because defensive lineman, while there is a you know,

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Speaker 1: it's tough, right, I mean those guys. One guy's coming

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Speaker 1: from a house state, one guy's coming from l s U,

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Speaker 1: and the other guys coming from South Carolina. But the

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Speaker 1: sec is at the end of the day, if you're

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Speaker 1: an if you're an edge rusher like Chase On or

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00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: like like Chase Young, when the ball snapped, you try

639
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: to get the quarterback. And the easiest thing, I mean,

640
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: Chase Young is gonna be a full time starter, but

641
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: it's easier to put the other guys in like pass

642
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: wresting situation and put them in situations that are conducive

643
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: to success. You line up over the guard Javon kin Law,

644
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: and you go up the A gap as hard as

645
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: you can, especially for the Niners. Like that's pretty easy.

646
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: I'd say the positions that will be kind of hard,

647
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: like the linebacker. Seattle took the linebacker and I like

648
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray that did uh the Charger I was called

649
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: San Diego. The Chargers took Queen did? Is that the

650
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: who the Ravens took. When you draft a linebacker, like,

651
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: you gotta know a lot of stuff. You have to

652
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: know what everyone's responsibility is. You have to know everyone's gap.

653
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: You have to know then in the passing game, especially

654
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: all those guys that are gonna be you know, playing

655
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: the passing game, especially Queen and Kenneth Murray. The coverages

656
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: where you go man concepts, zone concepts, that's tough. The

657
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: safeties is gonna be It's a hard position. Uh. I'd

658
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: say the wide receivers in theory is gonna be really difficult.

659
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: But you can dumb it down. Like if I got

660
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs, just give him, you know, a base of

661
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: place like the first couple of weeks. I think. You know,

662
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: players like that, you're just gonna have to give place

663
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: right because it's hard to give him the whole playbook,

664
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, in a in a fifteen you know, fourteen

665
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: padded practices. I think the quarterbacks, you know, Joe Burrow

666
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: to uh, I mean, Herbert's not the starter. I think

667
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: to a will end up starting. Kind of feels like

668
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: that just reading some things out of Miami and just

669
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: hearing different people talk. But think about Joe Burrow, you know,

670
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: that's you're asking this. That's a really really difficult I

671
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: think it's really hard for like everyone except defensive lineman.

672
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's easy for defensive line. It's not

673
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: easy for any of these positions, but defensive lineman is

674
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: the most basic on if you just throw a guy

675
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: in on third and seven, go in there, lineup, you know,

676
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: outside the right tackle shoulder and kick his ass and

677
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: bring it, you know, and the Niners for example, is

678
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: pretty basic scheme, just one gap. I think it's gonna

679
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: be hard for the wide receivers unless you could just

680
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: like raagor Uh I would say, Rugs, who are the

681
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: speed guys? Brandon I you, but they're gonna ask him

682
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: probably to do a little more because debos her you

683
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: can just give like two or three plays and routes.

684
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna run goes, you're gonna run posts, and we're

685
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna give you an end around. Stuff like that early

686
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: on where you're not giving them like Jerry Judy. When

687
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: I draft Jerry Judy, I want Jerry Judy to run

688
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: every route. Like when I think Jerry Judy, what do

689
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: I think? Dude runs every route in the route tree.

690
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: I want him running, goes out, posts ends, skinny posts, drags, uh,

691
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: option routes. I want him doing the whole thing, but

692
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: how do you know the whole offense, especially when we're

693
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: implementing a new offense. It's just it's just difficult. You know, tackles,

694
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: the protections sliding, that's that's hard. Think how many offensive

695
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: tackles went in the first like fifteen picks. Those guys

696
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: have to learn the entire passing game, and all those

697
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: guys are starters. It's like the big guy from Louisville, Beckton.

698
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: It's like, you gotta know everything, and you're protecting my

699
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback who we drafted three two years ago, and

700
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: we need to start playing well. It's a lot of pressure.

701
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: I think it's hard. The more I'm talking it out,

702
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: it's really hard. You could say, if you just have

703
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: a man scheme and you just ask your corner to

704
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: cover the guy man. Now, it's hard to play NFL corner,

705
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: so that just by itself in a vacuum, just chasing

706
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: guys on the outside is really difficult, especially how many

707
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: talented wide receivers are in the NFL, like they are

708
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: by far more talented wide receivers top to bottom probably

709
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: right now in the history of the NFL from just

710
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: like if you just went like one to like guy

711
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: thirty now, like at given times like Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, whatever,

712
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: it might be better than Julio right or whatever. But

713
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: guy twelve right now in the NFL is better than

714
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: getting twelve in like the nineties. I feel pretty confident

715
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: about that. You're way deeper. But it's it's just it's

716
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: it's hard to play corner when you gotta know, like

717
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: you're not just playing man. You're usually playing a bunch

718
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: of different coverages and you gotta know the cover. It's

719
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: just hard. The more I'm talking about it's hard for

720
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: every rookie. It's a good question, though, I like that one.

721
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: Why do you think Andy Reid is so good with

722
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: troubled players. I'd say a couple of things. I'd say,

723
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: first and foremost, he's a very real human being. Uh,

724
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: he's not a yeller and a screamer, though, I mean

725
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: he can be on you. I think he's just easy

726
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: to deal with. Now, this is the big leagues, right,

727
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: if you screw up, he can just cut you. But

728
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: when he takes into troubled player, like he's laying it

729
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: on the like he's telling you, like is your last chance? Whatever.

730
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: Their conversation is one on one, but it's pretty obvious

731
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: where you're at. He's not gonna hold your hand every day,

732
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: but if you need something, he's there. So if you

733
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: want to talk to him, talk to him. He's a

734
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: very accessible coach. Sometimes I think, I I don't know this,

735
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: I've never been around him, but I think sometimes people

736
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: feel like Belichick is kind of unaccessible even to players.

737
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that's true or not. I don't know. I mean,

738
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: he has enough success with his players, but he has

739
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: when's the last time he really messed with the troubled

740
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: guy a B But he lasted like a week. I

741
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: just think Andy's really good with people, and I'd say

742
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: two he's he does a good job. Like they pay

743
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: pretty good leaders typically, like in Philly Forever it was

744
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Trotter, it was Brian Dowkins. You know, when I

745
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: got there, we actually had a little void, like who

746
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: were our leaders? Like Sellek. I think Kelsey was just

747
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: so young he he would have easily been one, but

748
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: we kind of had a void. And that's why I

749
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: think why the team kind of fractured. And then once

750
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: he got to Kansas City, it's like he had Tom Bali,

751
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: he had Eric Barry. He just had pretty high level guys,

752
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: and then obviously Alex, who was a really really high

753
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: level guy. And then you know, from Alex to Mahomes,

754
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: who was just a unique Unicorn outlier. Last year they

755
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: signed Honey Badger. They just they get pretty solid guys,

756
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: you know, I got Mitchell Schwartz and and uh and

757
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher. I don't know about their leadership styles, but

758
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: they just some of their core starters are usually just

759
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, high level guys, so it's like you don't

760
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: really screw around, you know. I I think sometimes in

761
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: the pros people overthink, like micro managing, holding guy's hands

762
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: like these years old. And once you establish with legit leaders,

763
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: people usually follow. Most humans are followers, but you got

764
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: to give them the right person to follow, you know.

765
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of shitty teams, and you

766
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: could argue just bad organizations in America, right, just any business,

767
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: If you have bad people to follow, you're gonna fail.

768
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: When you have good people to follow, usually turn out okay.

769
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, he does a good

770
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: job of balancing, like not having too many idiots on

771
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: the squad. But you can get by with a couple

772
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: of guys that they're good enough. People understand that it's

773
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: bad teams have guys that aren't good enough and act

774
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: like idiots. I can live with the Pro Bowl or

775
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: being a little bit of an idiot. Players get it,

776
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: like this is a production league and if you produce

777
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: like we might not Like it's not like we me

778
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: but just players. I'm just speaking for them. But like

779
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: if the news a ball or a Pro Bowl A right,

780
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: I get it. But I can't have some dude like

781
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: is this guy even that good? And he's a big

782
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: pain in the ass like that that can happen. And

783
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: I think bad teams do that and good coaches never

784
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: do that. They only give you know, quote unquote troubled

785
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: guys that are legit Lions fan here parentheses Unfortunately. Are

786
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: the Lions woes of front office issue? Or is the

787
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: dying city the issue? Or both? I didn't know the

788
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: city was dying? Is Detroit and some in some issues

789
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: some problems. I I'm not trying to be ignorant or naive.

790
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm just not keeping up with Detroit to be honest

791
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: with you. You know I don't. I've never met anyone

792
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: I think they've worked for the Lions. I don't know

793
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: anyone that works for the Lions. I don't think that

794
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: highly of Patricia. I mean, I just think he's a

795
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: dog trash coach. He's terrible. I mean, you couldn't. I

796
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: can't imagine being a fan and having Matt Patricia be

797
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: my coach. I would not like football when I got

798
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: to college. I'm not like I root for the Diners

799
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: now more for business, like I I was rooting for

800
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: Andy Reid in Super Bowl. You know. Now, I grew

801
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: up a die hard Niner fan. But like when they

802
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: got Mike Nolan, when they fired Marrucci and got Mike

803
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: Nolan in the mid two thousand's, like I stopped caring

804
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: about the Niners. I wouldn't call myself a fair weather fan,

805
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: but like I'm a die hard San Fransco Giants fan.

806
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: I will not watch Gabe Kapler coach my team, So

807
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm out on him. But I like baseball

808
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: like I I follow the Yankees. I'm watching the A's.

809
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't watch like I get it and

810
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: listen I'm not like everybody, and maybe it's my I

811
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: have high standards, like I when I grew up, the

812
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: Niners were like competing to win championships. My first like

813
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: big football memories when I was like Tanna watched Super Bowl.

814
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: But I don't do like like Jim m. Sula. I

815
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: was out Chip Kelly when he came, I was out.

816
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: You know, I just don't do it. I don't have

817
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: the time. I'd rather talk about your teams with good

818
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: coaches or you're bad coaches. But I think Matt Patricia

819
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: is just like uh creation of Belichicks where I don't

820
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: know if he's any good. What was he really doing

821
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: and the pencil and the whole, Like it's just a joke,

822
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: practicing outside to get toughness, Like Bro, you playing a dome,

823
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: Bob Quinn. I mean, is that guy good? Gm? I

824
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: I think he's terrible. The safety traded last year is

825
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: digs to Seattle immediately becomes a stud. I remember going

826
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: to the Monday night game. That guy was just laying

827
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: out nine ers left and right. I'm like, who is

828
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: this guy? I mean, Ronnie Lott, He's just crushing people.

829
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: It's like I love this guy. Google it. I'm like, oh,

830
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: this is the guy that the Lions trained him. What

831
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: now they got him? And Jamal Adams like they're gonna

832
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: have a physical last second. Ear, I'll problem you that

833
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's I mean Pete Carroll gets excited when he

834
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: thinks about who's getting crushed by his safety's. He loves that.

835
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: He loves his dbs to hit, which I do too

836
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: as a as a football You know what I like

837
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: in football? I like big hitters. Now, obviously it's changed,

838
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, the day and age of just knocking people

839
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: out with flags stuff are different, But you can still

840
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: play like Jamal Adams, like try to run sweep at

841
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. He'll light your ass. I appreciate dbs that hit,

842
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: and I don't know how I got away. Oh the

843
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Lions because they traded a guy. I just don't know.

844
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: I just don't think they have any clue what they're doing.

845
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: And you go, well, why would they You go, one,

846
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: what was their head coach really doing for New England?

847
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Speaker 1: Not that much to what was their GM doing when

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Speaker 1: he worked for New England? Clearly not that much because

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know what he's doing. Belichick wasn't listening to

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Speaker 1: that guy. And I think there's gotta be just some

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00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: toxicity in that organization. They always lose. And I'm not

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00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: trying to talk about your team, like I'm just trying

853
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: to be real. Here. The best two players in the

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Speaker 1: history of the franchise, or at least in my lifetime,

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Speaker 1: thirty five, not to be thirty six Field I'm getting old,

856
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: is that they both retired like thirty years old, Barry

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Speaker 1: Sanders and Calvin john They said I quit, and I

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00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: understand Calvin had injuries, but he just quit. It's like

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Speaker 1: I can't take it anymore. And and really no one

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00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: blames either one. You know, no one blames either one.

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Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, I probably would have quit too. That sucks.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to play there. It might be the Fords,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're I don't know, maybe Ford peaked. My

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Speaker 1: brother actually has an expedition, so is my my cousin.

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Speaker 1: They said that he loves him. I actually think Fords.

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Speaker 1: They make great trucks, they make great subs. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think they make a pretty good product. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with the Ford family. I

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Speaker 1: don't get it. Just they Honestly, my overall take, it's

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Speaker 1: less about ownership and more they consistently hire the wrong

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Speaker 1: people consider and they finally like it felt like they

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Speaker 1: got it right a couple of years ago. Not right,

873
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Speaker 1: but Caldwell solid coach. They fired him. They hired Mary Utie,

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Speaker 1: and they get Matt Millen and he's terrible. Like, can

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Speaker 1: you just ever just hire a normal coach? Dave here,

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Speaker 1: if when sticks it up this year and doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: like a number two overall pick, could that impact the

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Speaker 1: draft stock of Trey Lance, same school and position and

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Speaker 1: these two guys are the entire sample size, I would

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Speaker 1: say no. I mean Carson's already played pretty well. I

881
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: mean the year that he towards a c L, he

882
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: would have won the MVP uh or probably win the MVP.

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Speaker 1: Last year, the last five or six games I know

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Speaker 1: it was against his division. He he played fantastic, especially

885
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Speaker 1: when you factor and he was playing with me, you

886
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: and two other randoms. He's playing with three practice squad guys,

887
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Speaker 1: another guy from the a F and he was winning games.

888
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Speaker 1: So like, I think that here's the other thing. Players

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00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: don't impact other players like past like five or six years.

890
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Speaker 1: So if I draft you and you're from Oregon, and

891
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Speaker 1: then three or four years later, same type prospects coming

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Speaker 1: out of Oregon. I don't go well Carson and didn't

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00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: work out, So this guy is not gonna work out one.

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Speaker 1: Carson's already hit. He was a second overall pick. He's

895
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Speaker 1: been a starter from the moment he got in the league.

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Speaker 1: He's proven he can take you to the playoffs. And

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Speaker 1: I know those two years with Foals, he didn't play

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but they were in the playoffs. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the second Folds year, Carson wasn't that good. But the

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Speaker 1: first year when they won the Super Bowl, Carson was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Carson was a huge, huge reason they had the number

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Speaker 1: one overall seed. So I actually think Carson, even if

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Speaker 1: you were to have a down year, is already a

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Speaker 1: positive if I can get this guy to be Carson

905
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Speaker 1: Wentz like Carson. Let's face it, Carson's biggest issue right

906
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Speaker 1: now is injuries and not consistently being on the field. Now,

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Speaker 1: you could say, if we really wanted to dive in,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes like he needs to learn to take

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Speaker 1: something off some passes, like sometimes he'll throw up a

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Speaker 1: fastball and the guy's fifteen feet away the Carson. Just

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00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: throw him a changeup. It's like that's what Rodgers and

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00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Russell and even Mahomes are great at. You don't always

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Speaker 1: need to throw you know, mac Sure's her heat to

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Speaker 1: the dome. Just just throw a little change up, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's he'll get better. But but he's always

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Speaker 1: injured in and out of lineup, playing with different wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: So you know, he was a little incauti last year.

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Speaker 1: But Trey, it is Trey Lance. I don't even think

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Speaker 1: is the North Dakota State even gonna play this year?

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Speaker 1: Like I saw today the Big Sky, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if North Dakota States in the Big Sky. That's like

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Speaker 1: cal Poly, Montana, U C. Davis. It's basically for us

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Speaker 1: on the West coast, like our second division D one

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Speaker 1: double A. I know you guys have a D one

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Speaker 1: double A out there too, but the win double A

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Speaker 1: is not a big deal out here. I went to

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Speaker 1: a D one Double A school, but no one went

928
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Speaker 1: to our games. And I just think that if North

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Speaker 1: Dakota State doesn't play, does that guy even come out?

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Speaker 1: He's gonna come out on one season that was seasoning,

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Speaker 1: you didn't lose a game. It's like seventy pass or

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Speaker 1: I mean DJ And I've heard a couple of people

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Speaker 1: say he's like the most talented guy. He's more talented

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Speaker 1: or just talented. Is like Trevor Lawrence. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what he do. It's kind of a complicated situation. That'd

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Speaker 1: be a fascinating topic. But I don't know. Honestly, as

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here right now, I'll get six. Is he playing?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If I had to guess, if you said,

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Speaker 1: do you think North Dakota States playing football this year,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably say no. Who are they gonna play? All

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Speaker 1: these teams that they normally play aren't playing. They were

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Speaker 1: supposed to play Oregon Week one that the Pack twelve

943
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Speaker 1: canceled the game. So if their conference is canceled, their

944
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Speaker 1: non conference cancel, they don't even want to play. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the guy should just hold the workouts and put them

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'd watch. Appreciate everyone listening, have a good weekend,

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Speaker 1: God speed. Enjoyed the PGA Championship. Hopefully Tiger could make

948
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: a little run. I got a lot of money on

949
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Speaker 1: guys like Kepka, Tiger, and my guy Tony Final sleeper audios, godspeed,

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Speaker 1: peace at S and S.