WEBVTT - Ep. 6 Searching for Digital Traces

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<v Speaker 1>Um, dude, you guys have social media. Were you guys

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<v Speaker 1>like on my Space? Yeah? We had my Space. We

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<v Speaker 1>were on it all the time. And um, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we're getting showing computer class because we would

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<v Speaker 1>try to like log in while we were in class.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Alejandra, Emory's high school friend. Again. During our conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about who Emory was at home and at school.

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<v Speaker 1>But one part that stuck with me was when I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that Emory also lived a life online. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>guys on a site called techno for us? Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>were on that too. What was your I don't remember anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could tell you. Did Emory have one? Did? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>She did. I was hearing from people about Emory, but

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to find something from her directly. Some

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<v Speaker 1>digital trace from I Heearts, Michaels go to a a podcast network,

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<v Speaker 1>Vice and Elias Studios. This is Party Cruise, the untold story.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jenisamoca. I've already taken you through what a party

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<v Speaker 1>was like, talked about how we were policed, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to show you our digital reality. Because this

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<v Speaker 1>era in the New Millennium would change the game for

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<v Speaker 1>all future partying. This was when how you showed up

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<v Speaker 1>online started to become as important as how you showed

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<v Speaker 1>up in person. And though we weren't doing it on purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>we were showing our lives uncensored and on our own terms.

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<v Speaker 1>The website that I talked about with Alejandra Techno four

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<v Speaker 1>dot us or T four for short, because an early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands social media site that was basically a giant party.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a way to connect with everybody. It

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<v Speaker 1>was basically like a message board for party people. You

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<v Speaker 1>know your flyers or messaging. There was no swifting in

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<v Speaker 1>social media back then. There was Techno four data. It

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<v Speaker 1>was mostly Latin X teens living in LA messaging each

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<v Speaker 1>other on T four and the profiles were chaotic, filled

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<v Speaker 1>up with colorful funds than wacky spellings. The pages were

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<v Speaker 1>plastered with tons of pictures the crews holding up their

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<v Speaker 1>badges and girls doing que poses. It's how we chose

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<v Speaker 1>to stand out and get creative. I know this because

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<v Speaker 1>I was a member too profile name West Coast's Finest Mommy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was like fourteen when I jumped into

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<v Speaker 1>my first chat room. I was amazed at how far

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to reach people in different states. Other

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<v Speaker 1>than visiting my family in Peru and New Jersey, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really get to know other places, and by chatting

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<v Speaker 1>with different people, I was able to learn a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a penpal, some white girl in Montana. I

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<v Speaker 1>also had a different penpal, a kid my age that

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<v Speaker 1>lived on a reservation in Arizona. I met them in

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<v Speaker 1>Yahoo chats. That's just to say how much I was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to live on the Internet, and I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>for Emory it was like that too. I was curious

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt like there were no limits. Amazingly, T

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<v Speaker 1>four is still around, so last year I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>check it out to see what I could find. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been on there in oof sixteen years. Okay, i'm recording.

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<v Speaker 1>I made it to the Techno for Us homepage, which

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<v Speaker 1>was still active. It's still black and blue like I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to see if I could find Emory's

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<v Speaker 1>old profile. Okay, I'm to see you, Emory. Let's try Tears.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's try it. Let's try for you. On T four,

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<v Speaker 1>people use their party crew nicknames, so I started with

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<v Speaker 1>Emory's nickname Tears, and then we can try Tears with

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<v Speaker 1>a z or tears tears of a clown. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not hers. I've never worked on a story

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<v Speaker 1>like this that brings so many personal memories. I'll tripe

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<v Speaker 1>in Vicious. Oh, here's a vicious Cherry. This is Cherry.

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<v Speaker 1>I typed in Vicious because of Emory's crew, the Vicious Ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>and I found the main head, Cherry. Cherry's profile picture

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<v Speaker 1>has the Vicious Lady's logo on it. It's a sparkly

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<v Speaker 1>pink and white Louis Vitan LV logo that sits on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the words vicious Ladies. I read what she

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<v Speaker 1>wrote about the Vicious Ladies on her profile at nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but a vicious thing repping them. Also fine, vicious ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were part of a crew, you wrapped it hard.

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<v Speaker 1>This would be the one and only fame malicious rapping

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<v Speaker 1>for nothing but the best vicious and then vicious ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. You got in contact with none other

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<v Speaker 1>than did see screaming Vicious ladies to the fullest, like

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<v Speaker 1>to party and have fun and just chill. Finally, I

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<v Speaker 1>found a picture of Emory Ry Go Destiny and Emery

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<v Speaker 1>Rocks all the boys all day, every day. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of m Emery and her friend Destiny. Destiny's page

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<v Speaker 1>shows that she last logged on in the summer of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, a few months after Emory's death.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Amory Mounos forever in her hearts. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>tight shot of Emory and Destiny's faces, so it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a selfie, maybe with a phone or a digital camera.

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<v Speaker 1>The lights above the girls are giant luorescent rectangles, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind you see in an office or in school. They

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<v Speaker 1>probably took the picture in class. Okay, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>save this picture one sec Destiny t four save. We

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<v Speaker 1>were unable to talk to any Vicious Ladies party crew members.

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<v Speaker 1>We did reach out to them, they either didn't respond

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<v Speaker 1>or declined to be interviewed. One told us through a

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<v Speaker 1>friend that it wouldn't be of any use to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us. They did press right after Emory's death, and

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<v Speaker 1>her case is still unsolved. So going through these profiles

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<v Speaker 1>feels like the closest I got to understanding the Vicious

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<v Speaker 1>Lady's dynamics, just like my crew. The Lustful Ladies. They

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<v Speaker 1>gave each other shout outs, posted pictures of their friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and wrapped their crew to the fullest. In the end,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find anything from Emory directly, but it did

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<v Speaker 1>take me back to that time. That world tfor feels

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<v Speaker 1>like this digital ghost town, like this online version of POMPEII.

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<v Speaker 1>All these profiles were frozen in time, capturing this new

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<v Speaker 1>era of the Internet where we could express ourselves online

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<v Speaker 1>without supervision. And it was like that for me too,

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<v Speaker 1>until it wasn't. My first long term relationship was with

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<v Speaker 1>a high school boy I connected with online, but the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship wasn't exactly what I expected. Once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked it in and out in the city of Industry,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember one day my boyfriend and I had

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<v Speaker 1>gone into a fight. I don't really remember about what,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just showed up at my job. He wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make up or something like that. But when he

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<v Speaker 1>walked up, I was chatting with my male coworker, and

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<v Speaker 1>my coworker made a joke and I laughed. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very normal, and my boyfriend saw me laugh, he made

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<v Speaker 1>a face and he just turned around and stormed out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got really stressed out. From the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend was really possessive. He didn't really want me

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<v Speaker 1>to have guy friends. Or even girlfriends who he felt

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<v Speaker 1>got in the way. He would call me at all

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<v Speaker 1>times to make sure he knew what I was doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I wasn't paying attention to my phone, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>come back to it and have thirty missed calls. He

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<v Speaker 1>was controlling about everything, including money, like he asked me

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<v Speaker 1>to co sign his car lease. I started to get

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of what he would do with all the information

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<v Speaker 1>about me sharing the story. I find myself getting protective

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<v Speaker 1>over my younger self and over all the other women

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<v Speaker 1>that I found themselves in my position. It was really

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing in the cycle I couldn't break at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>I was scared that he would see a compliment someone

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<v Speaker 1>left on my MySpace page or a photo of me

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<v Speaker 1>with a guy on my T four profile, and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>have more fights, which could lead to a full day

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<v Speaker 1>of crying. So one day in two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down, holed up all my profiles, my Space,

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook techno for us, and one by one I deleted everything,

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<v Speaker 1>all my photos, my posts, my friends, my party crew

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<v Speaker 1>years we're gone looking back now, those are the memories

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had. As I was looking for traces

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<v Speaker 1>of Emery on Techno for Us I realized that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I could also find traces of that time in my

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<v Speaker 1>life online. That's after the break. I do have a

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<v Speaker 1>few images that I printed out and stored in an album,

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<v Speaker 1>but otherwise the only pictures I have from that time

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<v Speaker 1>are with family, pictures with friends at school, and that

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<v Speaker 1>giant portrait my parents have of me in their living

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<v Speaker 1>room from my Kensaneta. It's like the good immigrant daughter

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<v Speaker 1>version of me has survived, enshrined at my parents place.

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<v Speaker 1>But this other, curious and more complex person I was

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<v Speaker 1>growing up is mostly gone. But maybe somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>Techno for Us Digital POMPEII, there is something from my

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<v Speaker 1>past I can find. And if there's one person who

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<v Speaker 1>could help me, it would be this man. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you explain you know, a Facebook before there was a Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>MySpace before there was a MySpace. You know, this was

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<v Speaker 1>very la This is just very la, very teen centering.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Regal Rojas. He's the actual founder of Techno

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<v Speaker 1>for Us. For me, this is as big as meeting

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<v Speaker 1>Tom from my space. I actually can't log on to

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<v Speaker 1>my old T four profile. I don't remember the password

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<v Speaker 1>and don't have access to the old email address, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping Rigo could help me access it again,

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<v Speaker 1>but first I had so many questions for him. I

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<v Speaker 1>was honestly shocked when I found out that he was

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<v Speaker 1>Latino and from la because nowadays I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>rare that a social network be tailored to a specific

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<v Speaker 1>community and founded by a member of that community. The

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<v Speaker 1>site wasn't anything fancy. The idea was that you could

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<v Speaker 1>connect virtually with people you met at parties in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a profile with messaging. That's really it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the theme evolved on its own to where, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she went to a party and you wanted to connect

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the people that were at that party

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<v Speaker 1>or there, or that are going to be at the

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<v Speaker 1>next one. Just use technical But it was never Rego's

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<v Speaker 1>plan to make a social media site. He kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled on it. Oh your home is very lovely, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of effort, disorganized, there's water, anything else you

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<v Speaker 1>may want, it's available. Rego in a family, came from

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<v Speaker 1>El Salvador when he was eight years old. In the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>he settled in the North Hollywood area. In the mid nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>Rego became a student at Kelsey University Northridge, not far

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<v Speaker 1>from where he lived. He was a kind of studies major.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working in music right as a hobby. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's new software coming out, new new devices, samplers, synthesizers,

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<v Speaker 1>and you become very good at it, connecting to think

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<v Speaker 1>the machines, and you become the technical guy in new

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<v Speaker 1>Google Friends. This is in the late nineties, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet bubble is it's you know, it's building up and

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<v Speaker 1>people are excited about things. Regal was on the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>in the time of dial up connection, when images took

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<v Speaker 1>forever to load, no tweets, none of that ease and

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<v Speaker 1>lightning speed were used to now. But he still found

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<v Speaker 1>a way to communicate message. Sports were popular, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I followed one the power Tools music board. Right here

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<v Speaker 1>you go, Ladies and gentlemen, bad Boy Bill, Hot Mix

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<v Speaker 1>number fourteen, It's power Tools riding on Power six, Humpty

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<v Speaker 1>Vision the Rock. Like many young Angelinos at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>he tuned into this radio show called the power Tools

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<v Speaker 1>Mix Show on Power one oh six, lots of house

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<v Speaker 1>techno and EDMA. I'll be in the mix up next,

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<v Speaker 1>Humpty Vision, bad Boy Bill in the mix all night long,

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<v Speaker 1>riding on power Tools boys. They also had a message

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<v Speaker 1>board where people would discuss and learn about new music.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that your first time kind of seeing that interaction

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<v Speaker 1>with different people and not the same physical space, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>It showed me that people can be very passionate about something.

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<v Speaker 1>The audience can communicate with each other and have a

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<v Speaker 1>voice in how to interpret the music. So he had

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<v Speaker 1>an idea. He and his DJ friends realized we needed

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<v Speaker 1>a website to promote our music. Rigo had an interest

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<v Speaker 1>in music and tech, and he wanted to know if

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<v Speaker 1>he can make a website himself. In March of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and three, five months before my space launched, he

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<v Speaker 1>purchased the domain name techno four dot us. He paid

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five dollars for two years. Then he spent the

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<v Speaker 1>next three months building the site. What was your visual

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<v Speaker 1>design idea for the website? UM? I wanted a dark

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<v Speaker 1>site with a bright contrasting color. Right, so it's black

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<v Speaker 1>and the brighter blue, sort of like that Dodger Blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Members didn't have to put any information except asl age, sex,

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<v Speaker 1>location my favorite thing though, So that's where a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them could customize their their profiles. Again, a very

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<v Speaker 1>amateur mistake was I didn't take away their ability to

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<v Speaker 1>inject code. So it was a mistake that worked out

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<v Speaker 1>in my favor because now people wanted to change their code.

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<v Speaker 1>We could customize our profiles any way we wanted. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if you can change the colors of your profile page

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram or have your favorite songue play when someone

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<v Speaker 1>visits your profile. That's what T four was like. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm creating this site by myself writing code, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>no point to it. There's no audience to it. By

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<v Speaker 1>the summer of two thousand and three, the site is live,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still didn't have an audience. Rego was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to promote it and seeing you

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<v Speaker 1>know the power Tools message board, is like, well can

0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I be that? Can I create that? Oh? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>make it better? One promotion idea he had, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is how you know it was early Internet, was to

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<v Speaker 1>tell people about the website at a party in person.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a friend that printed flyers like party flyers,

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<v Speaker 1>and he put t four on one of them as

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite Arigo. So in July of two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>Rigo attended the party and it wasn't like the parties

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<v Speaker 1>that played house music that he was used to. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in south central LA. It's a backyard party on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday night, summer night, and then gets hot. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and people who are listening to loud New right, they're teenagers,

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<v Speaker 1>they're high school kids. Rego was new to this generation

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<v Speaker 1>of flyer parties. We know they're wearing these these tags,

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<v Speaker 1>these these laminated tags with their crew name and their name.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, kids stands into right and hip hop. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here trying to promote a techno site, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, like, is this gonna work? Maybe at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the party, the DJ would play a little

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<v Speaker 1>house music, a little electronic music, but it wasn't about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely just hip hop were dominant. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Rigo bought I'm promoted your al called techno for us,

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<v Speaker 1>just for it to become the social media site for

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<v Speaker 1>kids like me who liked hip hop, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so funny to me and also such a marker and

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<v Speaker 1>time for me as an Angelino and the millennial, a

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<v Speaker 1>time when the popular music among the youth shifted and

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<v Speaker 1>a time when our world became more digital and interconnected. Slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>T four started to spread in the party crew scene.

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<v Speaker 1>You see the logos on flyers, and people were curious.

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<v Speaker 1>So it drove some traffic to the site, but the

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<v Speaker 1>site would really get attention when Rigo began attending the

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<v Speaker 1>parties with his camera. People are happy to post for

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<v Speaker 1>their pictures and they started asking you, hey, take my picture.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd select around fifty pictures from the party and post

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<v Speaker 1>them on the site a few days later. Girls wearing

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<v Speaker 1>matching outfits, guys showing off their badges. People start asking, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>where are the pictures. I'm like, okay, hold on, let

0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.040
<v Speaker 1>me let me work on them. So, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>pick out the best ones, you edit them, and you

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<v Speaker 1>put them up and the pictures start being shared everywhere, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the membership starts going up. People were always looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a good picture, whether it was to upgrade their

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<v Speaker 1>profile pictures or just save them at an album. And

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<v Speaker 1>Rio could see who wanted to see those pictures. So

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<v Speaker 1>you start seeing, you know, different plots on the map

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<v Speaker 1>and it's red hot in La, right, and it's like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't La thing. But wait, there's a group in Texas.

0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:38.439
<v Speaker 1>How did that happen? Right? So well, people from California

0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>have friends in Texas, right, and they share it, they

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<v Speaker 1>see group of people, they join, and now they start

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<v Speaker 1>building community. I was logging on all the time, even

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<v Speaker 1>at the school library during lunch or last period, just

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<v Speaker 1>to get onto four and message with my friends online.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to the point where lau is d blocks

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<v Speaker 1>the site because the students they're going into the library,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going into the computer lab, and they're just on

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<v Speaker 1>the site talking to each other, and we get blocked. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what high school still thought? Every every

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:20.080
<v Speaker 1>school high school, we were blocked at the district level.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't confirm this, but I remember my Space was

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<v Speaker 1>blocked at my school by the end of my senior year.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the moment where you were like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 1>this is getting bigger than I thought. Um, when the

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<v Speaker 1>servers begin to crash because there's just so many people

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<v Speaker 1>trying to log in. In two thousand and three, the

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<v Speaker 1>membership went up from fifty to over six hundred. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four, the year I joined, an average

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<v Speaker 1>there were sixteen hundred members online at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>In December two thousand and five, around the time that

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<v Speaker 1>Emery would have been a member, there was on average

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<v Speaker 1>over three thousand members online at the same time before

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<v Speaker 1>peaked at about two thousand and six, two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're talking about maybe twenty five thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>a day, you know, four to five thousand people at

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<v Speaker 1>any moment, and Rigo was making a pretty good living

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<v Speaker 1>off T four. I never went into my college career

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<v Speaker 1>because of T four. Right, so the work I did

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<v Speaker 1>on T four derailed anything to do with Chicano studies.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to be an activist. I thought, let

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<v Speaker 1>me change the system from within, you know, let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me go work in immigration services, let me go

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<v Speaker 1>work in social services. I took one interview in that

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't even respond to anything any follow up

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<v Speaker 1>on that because I was already working on T four.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in a way, you still like maintain the

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<v Speaker 1>community aspect of like activists. I mean, I understood what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on, and I understood, you know, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that these kids wanted to express themselves and have fun.

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Rego still keeps Tea for running. He says it costs

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars a month to keep it going. He

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 1>keeps it running for himself and for the handful of

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 1>people that continue to log on. I have a very

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 1>tiny platform that has an incredible loyal following. Right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you go in there now and there's forty five people

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<v Speaker 1>on I went in there last night there was forty four.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, I'm exaggerating. I'm exaggerating, right, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just I was a little shocked, to be right, you

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<v Speaker 1>have people that we're at that first party. I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of one person that was that that first party

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<v Speaker 1>that's on there actively. It provides a very basic service,

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<v Speaker 1>which is people connecting. Right. People will always need to

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>connect to people, and that's why all these social media

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>sites are successful. Our digital footprint will last as long

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<v Speaker 1>as we wanted to. Our digital footprint will last as

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<v Speaker 1>long as we want it to. I chose to delete

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<v Speaker 1>mine in two thousand and six when I did that

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>whole purge I mentioned because of that controlling ex boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I continue getting older, it's hard to reconcile

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of us may never get it back.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like such a loss that I can't access

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<v Speaker 1>my old profile to see if it's even still around.

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<v Speaker 1>But after talking to Rigo, he does me a favor.

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<v Speaker 1>He resent my password so I can lug in. So

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<v Speaker 1>let me lug in let sech. That's after the break. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I found my profile. I recorded myself going through my

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<v Speaker 1>profile for the first time, and it instantly brought me

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<v Speaker 1>back to two thousand and four. It's a picture of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I was not eighteen, but I made

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<v Speaker 1>myself eighteen at the time. My profile picture was not

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<v Speaker 1>one of me at a party. It's a picture I

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<v Speaker 1>have printed out somewhere, but it was still wild to

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<v Speaker 1>see it online. I'm in high school. This was taken

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably like seventeen. I think I'm wearing like

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<v Speaker 1>a sparkly pink rhinestone heart necklace and then wearing Hiphuger

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<v Speaker 1>pants with a hip Hoger belt that's like a silver

0:25:55.040 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>chain with another pink rhinestone to heart. I know I

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>should have kept that belt because apparently I could probably

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>sell it to urban outfitters for like one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So it turns out I still have my profile picture,

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<v Speaker 1>but I must have deleted my layout when I deleted

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<v Speaker 1>all my other social media coming my profile was pretty bare.

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>It was just the basic black background with that Dodger

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 1>blue lettering. But my profile did offer some information. It

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>says asked for your gender. I have female city. I

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<v Speaker 1>put role in Heights a member since and it says

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<v Speaker 1>June twenty seventh, two thousand and four profile hits. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had twelve thousand, forty eight profile hits and my last

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<v Speaker 1>log in was July tenth, two thousand and six, at

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<v Speaker 1>one twenty seven am. The last time I logged in

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 1>was when I deleted all my other social media profiles.

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<v Speaker 1>I clicked around the page to see if there was

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<v Speaker 1>anything else, and I found my journal section. Did I

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>ever use a journal? Oh my god? How embarrassing. Um,

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is so embarrassing. There were three

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:15.719
<v Speaker 1>whole entries. Okay, so it's here. The first journal mentry

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote was July seventeenth, two thousand and four, at

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<v Speaker 1>five seventeen am. Gosh, and I wrote, m well, it's

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>about five o eight am and I'm up exclamation points tool.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about stuff lately. But yeah, damn, it's

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>five to eleven now. Lol. I better get in bed

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>so my mama doesn't get all mad and shish. For now,

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm out show was. I ended up writing more in

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that same entry. Damn the drama, Fuck the haters. We

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>gotta just live life, but sometimes you know, I wish

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>there was someone I could come home because the game

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>gets old after a long while. Lol, trust me, then

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>there done that all right? For real? I'm outros. I

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what I was, who I was writing about.

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>The game gets hold after a long while, embarrassing. There

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>was another journal from July twenty eighth, two thousand and four. Okay,

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I wrote, ah, I finished making the tags and I'm

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 1>freaking board la la la la, will let's see um nothing.

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm out, lessful ladies leaving this mofo. I think a

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>lot about how easy it is to delete our memories

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>my mask. Clicking or highlighting an entire page of code

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and pressing one key delete it felt less ceremonial than

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>burning physical images or tossing an entire album with pictures away.

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's why it felt painless at the time.

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>But what I didn't realize was how permanent one click

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>can be. It's more than old photos. Looking through it.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>T four is really an archive. It's not organized or

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>easily searchable, but you can see firsthand accounts of how

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>we lived. It seems like Emory's profile is gone. She

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't leave a digital footprint behind, at least one that

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I could find, but I can't help. But wonder did

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>she delete it herself? What was her reason? Was it

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a way of protecting herself like I had to, and

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>losing her profile? It isn't just a loss of her

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>photos or her words. It's another missing layer of who

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>she was, what her world looked like, what she felt.

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Now it's up to other people to fill in the blanks,

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and I feel an obligation to try because when it

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>comes to subcultures or to communities of color, especially young

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>women of color, historically, it's often up to us to

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>remind the world that we exist. While I couldn't find

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>anything online that hinted at what happened to Emory, a

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>few months into looking at her case, we met someone

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>who thought he could help Emory's family after hearing them

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>speak and giving me some insights as to what happened.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I do believe there's additional investigation that needs to be conducted,

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and for the first time we hear from Emory's parents,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I was, I wasn't there, you know,

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>like to where I rich I would I was, And

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you know she was? She was. She was a happy child,

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and I know she would cry and saying Where's my dad,

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Where's my dad? But because I wasn't there, that's next time.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was written, reported, and hosted by me Janasamoka.

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<v Speaker 1>Our show is produced and reported by Sofia Pelissa car

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria Lejandro, and Kyle Chang and edited by Antonio Seihilo.

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<v Speaker 1>Additional editing by Carlina Dalbo and Annie Ablis, fact checking

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<v Speaker 1>by Nadia Bautista, Sound design and original music composition by

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Murdoch. Our supervising producer is Janet Lee. Art by

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Ruiz and Victuakllon. Our executive producer from Vice Audio

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<v Speaker 1>is Kate Osborne. Our executive producers from Elias Studios are

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Seihido and Leo gi. Our Vice president of Podcasts

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