1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: You win an oscar and it's all downhill from there. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: It's one more thing. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: I'm strong and getty, one more thing. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen won an oscar when he was like twenty 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: And which movie was at full middle jacket? Is that 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: the one he was in one of those war news 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: platoon that's it. 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: I can't swear that's right, for the sounds right. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 1: And then he was, at the time of his crack up, 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: or right before it, the highest paid actor in all 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: of television, back when people still watched television, as the 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: start two and a half Men, which was a hilarious show. 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Then he went off the rails with the drug addiction 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: and all kinds of different stuff and waring, hooring and 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: being crazy online. He's got a memoir out and he 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: is he's our age sixty and he did a big 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: documentary for Netflix, and he sat down with Good Morning 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: America and didn't interview with Michael Strahan And here's a 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: little bit of that. 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: What do you think when you look back there, do 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: you recognize yourself? 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: Don't know who that is? And that's not a cop 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 4: out or I don't know what part of me that 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: came from. 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: It's weird. 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 4: It's like there's a possession going on. I'm like, you know, 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: compleading with that version of me to just dude cat stuff. 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Wow, that's interesting. 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny because so many voices were telling 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: him that at the time. But that's the nature of addiction. 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: I guess, roll on, do you have any regret? 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: I do, but I can't. 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: There's no value in them, you know. 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: I guess the only way to deal with it is 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: just to not ever do anything or allow myself to 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: wind up in a situation where that's a message I 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: want to send to the world in that capacity, because 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 4: there's probably a lot of people out there that's don't 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: only know me from those viral clips a guy screening 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: Tiger Blood and winning and all this other nonsense, right, 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: and not set the record straight, but say no, no, no, 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: that was a moment in a really long career where 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: things just went off the freaking rails. 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine in the Netflix special they play a 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: lot of those viral clips that we played the heck 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: out of back in the day, when every day he 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: would release like a video that would be on YouTube 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: of him just completely out of his mind. 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, obviously he was complicit in it and enthusiastically 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: participating in it. But can you imagine your most out 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: of control moments and days being broadcast to the world. 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: I can see why he looks and wants people to 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: know I'm not that guy. 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: He talks about the section the drugs. 55 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: And you say sex went hand in hand with your 56 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: drug use. It did, yeah, and and wanting to try 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: as you you framed it quote other side of the menu, 58 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: which for some people out there and mean, what's the 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: other side of the menu that's sleeping with men and you? 60 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: But you said you've been honest about it now, But 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: why did you keep a sequence for so long? Sure? 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, because there there was another element to it that 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: it did come with with it with a tremendous amount 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: of extortion. And so at the time I was just like, 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: all right, let's just just just pay to keep it 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: quiet and then just hope it just stays over there 67 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: and make it go away, you know, just make it 68 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: go away. 69 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: And then you were just paying people not to yeah. 70 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: Because they they would have they had video things or 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: whatever and had stuff over me. So that was kind 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: of held hostage, you know, And it's just the that's 73 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: a bad feeling. 74 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: That's interesting. I don't remember. Did he get himself into 75 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: financial trouble because he was making insane money obviously as 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: the highest paid actor in off television. Did he like 77 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: even remember? I don't remember either, because my question anytime 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: celebrities do these sorts of things where they reveal all 79 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: these past this and that, you know, why are you 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: Why did you keep it a secret for so so long? 81 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: The better question is why are you telling anybody now 82 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: other than maybe a therapist. I mean, you don't need 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: to tell me that you were sleeping with dudes for 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: a while when you were. 85 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 3: Out of your mind on drugs. 86 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't need to know that. So are you telling 87 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: this just to make money off of a Netflix special? 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: Did Netflix give you fifteen million dollars to tell this story? 89 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: Is that why you're doing it? 90 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: You could make the argument that, I mean, if you're 91 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: a straight guy and you're so effed up on crack 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: and meth, which in particular make you want to horn 93 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: out with whatever person or object or beast happens to 94 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: be handy, it's worth telling this story. I think. I 95 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: don't think that's out of line. I see your point, 96 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: and generally I agree with you on that stuff, but 97 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: he's just talking about how he was out of control. 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: And also, I think you know, now, I'm sure I'm 99 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: I agree with myself because there's a real element of 100 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: laying down with dogs and waking up with fleas because 101 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: he was with the hardcore druggy party sex crowd and 102 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: they all tried to extort him. 103 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: Well, I suppose if he didn't mention that part in 104 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: the documentary, one of these probably scumbag He's probably hanging 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: around with some really low life people. Oh yeah, one 106 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: of them would have come forward and said it, so 107 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: they need to had to answer to it, So why 108 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: not just get it out? 109 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and I just like him saying, hey, this 110 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: is part of it. By the way, all of your 111 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: friends who are just fellow druggies, we're gonna screw you 112 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: and steal from you every way they can think of. 113 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: I do have one semi important thing to say this, 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: I think, but one more clip. 115 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen, she publicly revealed that he was HIV positive. 116 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: That that was a tremendous relief. 117 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: That felt like, okay, all right, there's that not now 118 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 4: I can focus on some other things. 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: That was ten years ago. That was twenty fifteen. You're right, 120 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: how you feeling now? I felt pretty good. She says 121 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: he stopped using drugs in twenty fifteen, and that he 122 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: has now been completely sober for nearly eight years. What 123 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: was the final straw? It was, well, my body was 124 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: starting to reject it. 125 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 4: I talk about that in the book, you know, literal 126 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: really like turning inside out. 127 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: That was a mess. 128 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Oh. I remember what his teeth looked like when you 129 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: got some of those close picture his teeth. 130 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: That's bad. 131 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: Oh, that was horrible. There's a clip, oh, we don't have, 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: but I read it yesterday where he talked about how 133 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: he'd really felt like his dad had betrayed him because 134 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: his dad actually signed off on some legal something that 135 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: allowed the police to go into Charlie house, which ended 136 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: up in his arrest, and which led to him getting 137 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: off drugs, which led to him being able to get 138 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: sober and stay sober. And he really really thought his 139 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: dad had betrayed him, and he now knows that it 140 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: was the dad doing what he should do for his 141 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: son and. 142 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: Thanks him and all that sort of stuff. 143 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing I was going to point out 144 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: is Charlie Sheen sounds to me like a guy who's 145 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: legitimately sober and can stay sober, as there was no 146 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: blaming anybody but himself any of those clips, as opposed 147 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: to Hunter Biden, who every time gets asked a question anything, 148 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: it's a yeah, but what would you do if the 149 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: if people had done this to you? I mean, it's 150 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: always that sort of angle, which I'm I'd be shocked 151 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: if Hunter's actually sober, and I don't see how he's 152 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: going to stay sober with that attitude. He's still blaming 153 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: people for his behavior. 154 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely true. Wow, that is a contrast. 155 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: Because Charlie is saying, yeah, lots of regrets. I don't see, 156 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be do me 157 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: any good to dwell on them. But whereas Hunter never 158 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: has that sort of tude. 159 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: No, No, he has people who drove him to it. 160 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll watch. I will actually watch this documentary. 161 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: Probably I will too, just because of the beloved catchphrases. 162 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: It came from his off the rails, almost dying, getting aids, 163 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: et cetera period. 164 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: It's amazing HIV anyway, it's amazing that he lived through that. 165 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: Yes, winning. 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: Living. 167 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Most people who do that do not live. I wonder 168 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: how much of that was just maybe he had enough 169 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: money that he could get the right medical help at 170 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: the right time. Of course, so did Matthew Perry. And 171 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: Matthew Perry's dead as I am or well, and fentanyl 172 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: didn't exist at the right He missed the fentanyl thing, 173 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: or he would be dead. That is exactly right. Because 174 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: he was doing so much drugs with so many different people, 175 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: he would have come across ventanyl just by uh, you know, 176 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: sure randomness. 177 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got poetry at my fingertips. That's you 178 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: got that going for you. Well, I'm not Thomas Jefferson. 179 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: He was a pussy. 180 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: There you go. Those are the days. 181 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: Man's opinion. 182 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: We had good times back then. Every day the Charlie 183 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: Sheen update, it was fun times. Well, I guess that's it. Well, 184 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: we all have to sit in here and touch ourselves 185 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: and frown.