1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: What is up, straight Ram. It's me Jason McIntyre Straight 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: Fire for Friday, January thirty. First, Oh, we have a 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: spectacular guest today on the podcast. I know you're here 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: usually for my hot takes, but I'm just telling you this. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Today's guest, Adrian Wojnarowski, one of the foremost journalists in America, 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: left for a new job. He is now the GM 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: of the Saint Bonaventure Bonnies, the basketball team in the 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: A ten. It is an incredible turn of events for Woj. 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: He's been there about six months and I've known him 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: for a good twenty issuyears. So I hit him up. 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: I was like, bold, I want to go. I think 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: the audience wants to hear about this. A lot of 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: people are like, oh, nil is ruining college basketball. It's 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: also creating a ton of new jobs this GM job 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: that Woj got. There are now agents representing college athletes 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: for name, image and likeness, like it is awesome. I 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: love this interview where we talked Thursday afternoon. It was spectacular. 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: I think you guys are really gonna like it. Outside 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: the box stuff. It's illuminating to say the least. I 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: will just add one other thing. I am in a 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: weird spot where I'm working at the FS one and 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people write about our show, and some 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: people write about the future of our show. This is 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: my favorite part about it. Okay, So I have been 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: at Fox eight and a half years, almost nine years, 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: and it is always strange when people write about your 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: place of employment and some of the stuff you didn't know, 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: some of the stuff you did. But it's always weird 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: to read about it from an outsider perspective. And obviously 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: this week there was big news and I have been 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: besieged in the last forty eight hours with some texts 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: but mostly dms online Dude, are you moving to Chicago? 34 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Is the show moving? 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: What's going on? Because people read stuff and then you 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: know Colin address sub of it on his podcast. And 37 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: my favorite part of all this is back when I 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: was a journalist, when you hear a story about a story, 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: you reach out to parties involved, Right, Hey, I heard 40 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: you might be transferring. Hey I heard you are gonna 41 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: sign as a free agent with X team. Like you 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: would call the agent, the athlete, reach out to the 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: person involved and try to find out and it is 44 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: just hilarious to me that I haven't heard from anyone 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: in the media, but I hear from people who know me, dude, 46 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: are you moving who don't write about the media. They're 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: just asking me as kind of quasi friends, or they 48 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: know they know me and live near me or whatever 49 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: it is. And it's just so funny for people to 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: speculate reach I would never respond to them. If they 51 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: did reach out to me, I'd be like, yeah, I'm 52 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: not gonna I can't go there. Sorry, Bud, thanks for 53 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: reaching out. But that's the thing people are writing about 54 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: it is if they know stuff or they're plugged in, 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: but they're not even reaching out to attempt to find 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: out the truth. Like I would respect people more if 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: they were like, Hey, j Mac, I gotta ask you know, 58 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm writing about this. Are you going? I sorry, I 59 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: can't comment, you know. And that happens sometimes, but on 60 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: this one this week, not one person has reached out, 61 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: but everybody's writing as if they know. And that's how 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: you know. People are just chasing algorithms and clicks because 63 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: it's in the news. I have no clue what's gonna happen, Okay, 64 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: I I don't know. I really like life out here 65 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: on the West Coast. If you watch the herd closely. 66 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: Colin and I have been joking about this for months. 67 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: You gotta read between the tea leaves and listen closely. 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's all I'll say about that, and let's 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: get to the main event. Adrian wol j Darowski GM 70 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: of the Saint Bonaventure basketball program. 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 72 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 73 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 74 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 1: listen live. You know, Jason likes to think he knows 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. 76 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want, but for. 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 78 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 79 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: guy who knows another guy. 80 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. Come on, you 81 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: guys know him. He doesn't even need an introduction. I've 82 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: known this guy probably close to twenty five years now. 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: One of my first jobs out of college, we were 84 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: working kind of in the same shop, and man, I 85 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: learned more from that guy in two years than I 86 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: learned in newspapers and five or six. Adrian Wojnarowski, the 87 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: GM of Saint Bonaventure Basketball. Woj how are you, man, Jason? 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: I'm great? Are Yeah. 89 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: We are a long way from the record hack Andsack, 90 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: New Jersey. Our offices on the old offices on River Street, 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: they're not even I don't believe they're there anymore. 92 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: Jason. 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: Wow, Hey, it's been a minute, man, it has been 94 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: a while. And congrats, you know, I it's so random. 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: I saw woje out here in California crossing the street. 96 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: I was like, what are you doing? 97 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, hey man, you've you've had a 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: busy six months. Shall we say, how's the job going. 99 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 4: It's great. 100 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: I really jump out of bed every day looking forward 101 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: to the challenge of this. 102 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 4: Every day is a little bit different. 103 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: You're doing a lot of the you know, same pursuits 104 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: of recruiting nil you know, trying to help our players 105 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: and their families with things that you know can be 106 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: helpful to them, and you know, getting out and telling 107 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: the story of Saint Bonaventure basketball, Saint Bonaventure University. We 108 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: had some good wins this season, just you know, be 109 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: dating at home the other night, be the VCU at 110 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: home beat Providence on a neutral court. So you know, 111 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: we we We've got some great wins this year and 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: really great group of players. That's been my favorite part 113 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: of this, Jason, is being around our players their families, 114 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: you know, and trying to help where I can help. 115 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: And it's it's been a lot of fun. It's it's 116 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: really been everything I hoped in more. 117 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: I think when the news first broke wog Is leaving 118 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: ESPN and being the number one NBA reporter on the 119 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: planet to go to Saint bonavent Or, people were dubious, like, 120 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: I'll wait a minute, was or scandal because it's a 121 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: weird time in college basketball, woage where you've got all 122 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: these old great coaches kind of leaving the sport. The 123 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: guy at Virginia recently left right before the season, you know, 124 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: and here you are running into it. I mean, your 125 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: job GM did not exist in college basketball what like 126 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: four years ago, maybe even less. 127 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 3: No, And I think it's you know, what's made these 128 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: jobs necessary or certainly really helpful at places both football 129 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: and especially especially football and basketball is the portal and 130 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: nil because we have perpetual free agency. Everybody can leave 131 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: essentially after every year, and we have money that needs 132 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: to be raised and essentially salary caps that have to 133 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: be managed, and you're working on retention every day and 134 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: that's part of you know, to me, our most important 135 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: recruiting is our own players and showing them, you know, 136 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: all the opportunities and hopefully they're having a great experience here, 137 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: but also understanding at the end of each year there 138 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: are opportunities too that can be really tempting for guys. 139 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: The money is significant, you know, not just across the landscape, 140 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: but in the Atlantic ten in our league, and so 141 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: you know, that's our. 142 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: Fight every day. 143 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: But certainly, you know, as I dig in on basketball, 144 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: I do marvel at football and I watch, you know, 145 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: you kind of watch the you know that I try 146 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: to read and listen to what's going on at Carolina 147 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: with Bill Belichick and Mike Lombardi. And it's fascinating in football, 148 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: you know, because you need so many more guys. Obviously 149 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: they have stabs and it's different. 150 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: You know, we're. 151 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: Still you know, it's still you put a basketball team together, 152 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: you're trying to get five guys and obviously you want 153 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: to bench and you need to protect against injuries and 154 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: and all the things. 155 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: But it's it's fun. It's like putting a puzzle together. 156 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: And you know, I come into this pretty humble about 157 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: I've got a lot to learn and trying to lean 158 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: on people a lot smarter than me, whether it's our 159 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: coaching staff and understanding with our staff about you know, 160 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: what we value in players, and you know, you look 161 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: at analytics and certain data about things that we value 162 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: that somebody else may not value as much, vice versa. 163 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: And so that part of it's been a lot of fun. 164 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: And but a lot of it, Jason is I've spent 165 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: the last thirty five years talking to players every day, 166 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: coaches every day, agents every day, and you're still doing that, 167 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: but you're having different conversations. 168 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like you guys, And listen, I 169 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: did look up some stuff. It seems like the SEC 170 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: spent on average thirteen million dollars in the NIL and 171 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: Big ten was about ten mil. I don't know if 172 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: these are updated, but it was from chat GBT, which 173 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: is obviously never wrong. And you guys have to do 174 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: it on a moneyball, like a bit of a shoe 175 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: string budget, you know, like if you want Joe Schmo 176 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: and Kansas is coming after him, like that's a that's 177 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: a tough one for you guys. But I'm curious, like 178 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: this moneyball aspect, how much fun is it because it 179 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: just seems like that one of the best jobs that 180 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: you could imagine. 181 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, for us, you've got a 182 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: zero win on places that who you are as a school, 183 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: who Saint Bonaventure is, and what our identity is. Embrace 184 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 3: it and find people who this appeals to. And it's 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: not going to be everybody. Yeah, but you know, I 186 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: think on a couple of levels right where we might 187 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: be your first stop on the way somewhere else, we 188 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: might be the place you you have to come to 189 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: get the basketball. 190 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 4: Right. 191 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: We have a Hall of Fame coach and Mark Schremidi 192 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: just won his four hundred game as a Division one coach. 193 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: He's one of the all time winning his coaches in 194 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: Atlantic ten history. You know, he's behind you know, the 195 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: likes of John Cheney and you know, legendary figures like that. 196 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: And we have a great league in the Atlantic Ten, 197 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: playing against the Vcus and the Daytons. You're in the 198 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: major media markets, you're on television, you know, you know, 199 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: we had a first round pick in our league last 200 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: year we've had first round picks at Saint Bonaventure, And 201 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: so you find guys and families who value the whole 202 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 3: picture of that. Like Jason, we're not winning bidding wars, 203 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: and if it's just about money, I'm going to be 204 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: out of it pretty We're going to be out of 205 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: it pretty quick and move on. But what I have 206 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: found and where, especially with our the group we have here, 207 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: you know they value We have families who value the 208 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: bigger picture of you know, playing big time basketball. But 209 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: at a school that has two thousand students, there's nobody 210 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: quite like us in Division one. There's other school that 211 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 3: have two thousand students, but they're not trying to play 212 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: basketball and sports in the Atlantic ten. And so certainly 213 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: you do the math. We have fewer students, we have 214 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: fewer alumni, we have fewer people to draw from to 215 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: raise money versus some of the schools I just mentioned, 216 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: and so you're gonna have to do more with less. 217 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: We've had a coach who's done that over a very 218 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: long period of time. 219 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: And my job people here GM, and they. 220 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: Think of pro sports. I think of the NFL, NBA. 221 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: The GM is in charge. I'm not in charge of anything. 222 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: I'm in charge of bringing to our coaches and our 223 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: staff options and saying, hey, here's through my relationships old 224 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: and new. You know, here are potential players internationally, potential 225 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: porter players, portal, junior college, Division two high school, obviously, 226 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: all the different places that you know you would draw from, 227 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: and let's dig in on the let's dig in on 228 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: tape on them, let's dig in on the data, and 229 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: then let's see who we really want to focus in 230 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: on in our recruiting. You know, it's not like I 231 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: talked to NBA guys and I had a long talk 232 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 3: with a GM today about is I'm trying to Analytics 233 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: was a blind spot for me. This is not something 234 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: I have a strengthen. But I think I've helped to 235 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: surround myself with people who do, who are helping us. 236 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: And you know, we're not trying to cover the an 237 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: NBA team can draft from any where they want, Like, 238 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: if there's a player out there, they can draft them, 239 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: they can get them, maybe they can trade for them. 240 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: Once he's in the NBA, we have to be able 241 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: to recruit them. And so what I'm trying to do 242 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: is let's build out a database of people places where 243 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 3: we have great relationships, where there's geographic fits, and where 244 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: there's you know, again, like I said, maybe we're the 245 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: first stop on the way somewhere else. Maybe you're going 246 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: to come and play four years here. Maybe we're the 247 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: place where you where you went to the big time program. 248 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: You picked geography, you picked weather, you picked nil, they 249 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: were all bigger factors. Didn't go great, it didn't go 250 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: how you hoped it would. We're the place to come 251 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: to fix that, and you see the we play for 252 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: a great coach here. Hopefully I can be helpful with 253 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: players with NBA opportunities, other professional opportunities, you know, get 254 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: guys in the gym with NBA players in the summer, 255 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: have NBA guys coming through our campus. Maybe do a 256 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: pro day here next year based on what our roster 257 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: looks like. So we have a lot to sell and 258 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: you've got to you got to drill in and find 259 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: the guys who. 260 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: Our story is compelling to. 261 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: It's not going to be for everyone, but the good 262 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: news is we just need five of them on the floor. 263 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 264 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: Now, So I'm part of a Mexican soccer team ownership 265 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: group with a guy you may know, former NBA agent 266 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: Sam Porter. And one of the challenges is, you know, 267 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: you got to coach every different two or three years. 268 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: He's got a different system he wants to run. You 269 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: don't have the players for that system, so then you've 270 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: got to go find a couple new guys. But with 271 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: you guys having Schmidt there forever, you kind of know 272 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: what he wants, what his system is. Is that a 273 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: huge advantage when it comes to the portal, Like you 274 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: can see a guy popping at Wagner and then hey, 275 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: that's a great fit for us, Let's bring him in. 276 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: Is it make it a lot easier? 277 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: No, it's a great point, Jason. 278 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: And not only do we know what a Mark Schmidt 279 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: player looks like and plays like in the Tangibles and 280 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: the Intangibles, people out there who we would be recruiting 281 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: with recruiting from they also know. So you'll you'll have 282 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: people come to you and say, hey, I got a 283 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: Bondi player for you, and we kind of know what 284 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: that is. That doesn't mean you know, what's great about 285 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: coach Schmid is his ability to adjust and adjust to 286 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: the personnel. It's not just hey, you're going to fit 287 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: into the system. You're going to adjust to your best players. 288 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: But our group typically like we're going to defend, we're 289 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: going to rebound, you know. And so you know we've 290 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: had we've won in lots of different ways here under 291 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: Coach Schmidt, and you know, the hard part is especially 292 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: a program like ours, where you know, we had a 293 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: run of eight straight years essentially of first team All 294 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: Atlantic ten guard play Jalen Adams to Kyle often where 295 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: they became starters as freshmen, they were four year starters. 296 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: They got us to the nca tournament. 297 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: We won a lot that it's harder to imagine you're 298 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: probably going to have a four year starter at point 299 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: guard now, so you're turning it over faster. And so 300 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: that's certainly a challenge for the staff, but it's everybody's. 301 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: It's everybody's challenge. And you know that's for me, is 302 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: I believe in this place. I believe in Saint Bonaventure 303 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: that the university was transformational in my life and I 304 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: think for a lot of young people it can still 305 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: be a transformational place. And our woman's coach, Jim Crowley 306 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: said this to me and it stays with me. He said, listen, 307 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: you come to our place and you get on campus 308 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: and you either feel it or you don't, and if 309 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: you feel it, it stays with you the rest of 310 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: your life. And I see we're bringing back twenty fifth 311 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: anniversary team that went to the NCAAs in two thousand 312 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: and took Kentucky to double overtime. You know, the entire 313 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: team's coming back, and they're coming from all over the world, 314 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: and how much this. 315 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: Place means to them. 316 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: And I really feel like when we're out recruiting, even 317 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: in this age of the portal, we're selling a forty 318 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: year relationship. 319 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: I want so much for our current. 320 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: Players to see the relationships that this team has from 321 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: twenty five years ago, to see them come back to campus, 322 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: how close they still are, how they're all still on. 323 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: A text chain. 324 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: We had a team from the late sixties that was 325 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: back earlier this season. I mean, these guys are in 326 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: their seventies early eighties and they're still really close. And 327 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: so for us, it's great for our players at a 328 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: time when again they can move around, some have moved, 329 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: some may move again, but that they can look and 330 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: say maybe say, hey, I'd like to have that twenty 331 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: five years from now or fifty years from now. And 332 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: I do wonder sometimes in this portal age, if you 333 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: go to three schools, do you really have one you 334 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 3: can go back to? Do you really have one that 335 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: you can call home? And again, that doesn't have to 336 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: be important for everybody, but for some kids it will be. 337 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: And we got to find those guys. 338 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: Let me ask you. You mentioned a freshman staying four years. 339 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: It's tough for high school kids now, woh, Like, it's like, 340 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: why would I take an eighteen or nineteen year old 341 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: when I could get a twenty two year old who's 342 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: been a starter for three years? You know, like, it's 343 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: just it's difficult. How do you guys manage bringing in 344 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: young guys who would stay with the program versus hitting 345 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: the portal and getting high impact fifteen pointy game guys. 346 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no question, Jason. 347 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 3: And with the junior college with a lawsuit with the 348 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: Vanderbilt quarterback that changed the junior college eligibility. Now you know, 349 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: players who we thought were out of eligibility after this 350 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: year have one. 351 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: They might have two more. 352 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: Years of eligibility based on how your junior college years 353 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: are judged. And so you know you're going to have 354 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: because of the COVID, we had the twenty four to 355 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: twenty five year olds. Now with the j C rule, 356 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 3: you know again, and there's a big difference having a 357 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: twenty four year old point guard playing an eighteen year 358 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 3: old point guard. You look at our league, there's young 359 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: guys who play, and we have Xander Wedlow, who's a 360 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: freshman center from Detroit who's in our rotation and playing 361 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: is going to be terrific. Typically it is older players 362 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: and you are winning, and the portal is important, and 363 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: high schools in many cases a little more of a 364 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: developmental route now and you're seeing maybe high school players 365 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: who might have come in at the Atlantic ten level, 366 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: maybe they're coming into college basketball at what might be 367 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: perceived as a level below. But I do think what 368 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: you see is if you're a player and you produce 369 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: at what's you know, a low major, or you produce 370 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: in Division two, there's going to be opportunities. 371 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 4: To move up. 372 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 3: I think you look back a lot of like, look 373 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: at the Division two upperclassmen now who are out there, 374 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: many of whom kind of came through in COVID. And 375 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 3: there probably were some recruiting mistakes made during COVID because 376 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: people couldn't get out and evaluate, and so there are 377 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: no I mean, look at Drake this season with four 378 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 3: Division two players in their lineup. You better, to me, 379 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 3: you better be really digging in in the Division two, 380 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: Division three level for US Canada. You know, Toronto's three 381 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 3: hours away. That's a very important market for US, and 382 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 3: so there's players everywhere. And you're right about though, Jason older. 383 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people probably feel older is better. 384 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask about it. Sounds like you're you 385 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 2: have to divide your time some high school. You got 386 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: to monitor high school, you got to monitor JUCO. You've 387 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: also got to monitor Division IE potential portal guys. I 388 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: don't know, I did see that. You know, the Patriot 389 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: League and the IVY League, they're struggling with the idea 390 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: of paying kids. Nil Yale lost a bunch of dudes. 391 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: How do you handle like just drumming up money and 392 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: how to handle and divide it among whether it's a 393 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: JUCO a d one high school kid. 394 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the challenge, and I think I think 395 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 3: everybody's grappling with that of of you know, in the pros, 396 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 3: there's a salary cap and you you have an owner 397 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: who even if you're the even if you're the lowest 398 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: spending team in the NBA, if you have a great player, 399 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: you're going to pay them a max deal to keep them. 400 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 4: Right like you. 401 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: It's different at this level, right, we don't have a 402 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 3: quote unquote owner. We don't have a billionaire who's funding it. 403 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: You're raising it as you go and the generosity of 404 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: your alums and donors. And then there's a lot of 405 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: business partnerships that I spend you know, a great deal 406 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: of time on where you know, where you bring business 407 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: to partners you have and you get essentially a commission 408 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: back at those I spend a lot of time with 409 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: those kind of fundraising efforts where you kind of get 410 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: this passive income that you can count on over time. 411 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 3: That's going to be the key of it, the donor model, 412 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: especially to smaller school you can't just keep going to 413 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: the same people over and over. You've got to find 414 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: new revenue streams. You've got to find marketing deals for 415 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: your players. And so while we're recruiting players, I'm also 416 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: going to companies and you know, national brands and be 417 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: able to get potential nil deals that you know, play 418 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: a particular player might appeal to that company and calling on. 419 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 4: Relationships you've had through the year. 420 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: So you're spending your time on all of that, and 421 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 3: you know, if schools are going to opt if schools 422 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: are going to opt in, if the house settlement is 423 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: going to go through, and the schools in the instant, 424 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: the leagues that have forty and fifty million dollar a 425 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: year television deals, who can fund fully fund you know 426 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: that twenty plus million dollar revenue sharing. I mean, that's 427 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: not that's not how it looks at Saint Bonaventure, That's 428 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: not how. 429 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: It looks with some of the schools in our league. 430 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: But there's no question there are schools in our league that. 431 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: You know, are are going to be really aggressive with 432 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: rev with essentially player salaries if we you know, if 433 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 3: that all goes through. So you know, that's where I 434 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: spend my days on are trying to close the gaps 435 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: on that, and then we've got to be. 436 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: Smart with our money. We've got to make good decisions. 437 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: And again it goes back to having a great, great 438 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: coach at Mark Schmid, who's a great equalizer for us. 439 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: And I know spending the most money doesn't guarantee. 440 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: You're gonna win. But if you're at the bottom, pretty 441 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: good chance you're not. Right. 442 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 443 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 444 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 445 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 1: listen live. 446 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask those So you used to cover, 447 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 2: You've done a lot of college, and I mean even 448 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: when I was covering high school, you knew the lay 449 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 2: of the land. I'm just curious. It used to be 450 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: called boosters and now it's like collective. It just sounds 451 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: a little more classy and upscale. Is it the same 452 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: way you're you know, listen, there were some street agent 453 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: kind of guys back in the day. Is it similar 454 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: or is it the behind the scenes stuff cleaned up 455 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: a little bit? 456 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the players can have representatives and and I 457 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: like that part of it. I would rather typically deal 458 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: with an agent. I'd rather probably prefer to have our collective. 459 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: When I worked with our collective, and dealing with a 460 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: representative who's negotiated deals, who understands the marketplace, I think 461 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: that's I like operating that way. 462 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: And so having had a lot of those relationships through 463 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 4: the years, and then you know, you're building. 464 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 3: There's a new group of younger like in a lot 465 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: of cases, younger agents now who have really been aggressive 466 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: and smart in the NIL area with both basketball football 467 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: and getting to know them and you know, trying to 468 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: get a sense of what a marketplace looks like and 469 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: being prepared for when that portal opens that you know who, 470 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: be prepared for who may be available, and where the 471 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 3: price points are going to be and where the value 472 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: is and if you you know, you spend a little 473 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 3: more at this position, you might have a little less 474 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: to spend here. And so those are all the decisions 475 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: you're making, and you're moving pretty fast. And so the 476 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: goal is to not have dramatic roster. 477 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: Turnover every year. You want to be able to keep 478 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 4: guys you can do a great job. 479 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 3: You know, the money elsewhere can be massive, And I'm 480 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: never going to tell a young kid in a family 481 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: that they shouldn't take a life changing opportunity. I'll make 482 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: the case for what we have and who we are 483 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 3: and the opportunities that come with being at Saint Bonaventure, 484 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: but I I'll readily tell our guys, hey listen, and 485 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: there's probably going to be more out there for you. 486 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 3: Somewhere else, but there's also a long play here with us. 487 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: And the opportunities that are here. 488 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: And it's gratifying when guys feel it and they stay 489 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: and they want to be a part of it. And 490 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: when you have guys who believe in your place and fit, 491 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: you just want to do everything you can to keep 492 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 3: them because that's who you win, that's who you win with, 493 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 3: and that's who you feel good about winning with. 494 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: We just have such a great. 495 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: Group of young guys that, you know, for me, I 496 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 3: feel a pressure to do right by them and help them, 497 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 3: not just while they're at Bonaventure, but to be able 498 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: to help them, you know, in their careers. 499 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, like you know, I'm sure there's been 500 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: you have an example of a guy coming to you saying, hey, listen, woach, 501 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: you guys are paying me a hundred, but I just 502 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: cooked this guy both both times in our conference play 503 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: and he's getting Look, he's making three hundred fifty thousand. 504 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: I need a raise or I'm out. I don't know 505 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: how if you've dealt with that, or how do you 506 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: deal with guys floating fake numbers, which is what agents 507 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: love to do to drive up their value. And their client. 508 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, like, is that happening yet or can 509 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: you talk about that? 510 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: No? 511 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 3: I you know, I've only been obviously, I've only been 512 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: here since September. We haven't gotten through that cycle yet. 513 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: But I would tell you what I and again, it's 514 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: why I love the group we have is they've been 515 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: really focused on you know, playing, going to school, the 516 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: job at hand. We'll get to that stuff, and I'm 517 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: always talking to them and their families about what it 518 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: might look like and you know, making sure that we're 519 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: doing everything we can for them to maximize their experience here. 520 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: And there's lots of factors that might lead someone to leave. 521 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 3: It's not always money. It might be role or playing time, 522 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 3: or geography or. 523 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: Whatever it is. But I've never I've not had. 524 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: A I've not had a player or a family come 525 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 3: to me and said, hey, I had a good game. 526 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 4: I'd like to pay raise. I've heard of it. 527 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: Happening somewhere, yes, and I think it other places certainly. 528 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: And that's why I've really enjoyed being around our group. 529 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 4: And we'll do the best we can. 530 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: And I'm going to be you know, we're going to 531 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: be aggressive, and we are aggressive and raising that money 532 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: in nil and we're going to offer what we can 533 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: and hope that playing for a winning program at a 534 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: great university in a really good league and a really 535 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: fun place to play college basketball. Our place the one 536 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 3: thing I always suspected, and I know it by being 537 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: here every day. You know our place is for gym rats. 538 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: Our place. 539 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: The guys we win with and who have success the 540 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 3: same Bonaventure are the guys who want to be in 541 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: the gym. They go to class and they do their 542 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: work and they want to be. 543 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: In the gym. And I love coming back. 544 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: I'll come back to my office at nine or ten 545 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: at night, and I see guys after they had you know, 546 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: morning skills session, a practice study hall, and they're back 547 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: in the arena, shooting back in our facility late at night. 548 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: And you know enough about only in New York to 549 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 3: know there's not a lot of distractions here, Jason, there's 550 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: not a lot of nightlife. And so the guys who 551 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: are going to do well here are the guys who 552 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 3: want to be in the gym. And if you want 553 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: a bunch of other things, we're probably not the place 554 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: for you. 555 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 4: So we have to find those guys and then we got. 556 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: To keep them. I'm sure a lot of people are like, 557 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: where the heck is Saint Bonaventure. I looked on a map. 558 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: You guys are what like ninety minutes south of Buffalo. 559 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 4: That's right, Yep, we south right near the Pennsylvania border, 560 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 4: south of Buffalo. 561 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: How the heck did you convince your your family, Hey, 562 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: we're moving only in New York? Like, is that a 563 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: tough sell? 564 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: Well, the good news is my wife. I met my 565 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: wife at Saint Bonaventure. If she had gone to college 566 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: anywhere else in the world, this probably would have been 567 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: a different probably it was probably would have been a 568 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: different conversation. But she's been super supportive with this and 569 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: loves the place like I love it. 570 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 4: And we have a lot of friends here. 571 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: And we're still in Jersey a little bit, you know, 572 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: back and forth, and you know, maybe in the summer 573 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: when the portals closed and we're just got. 574 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's open twenty four to seven. 575 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is a twelve month of year job. 576 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 4: It is. 577 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: But you know this is also we're in the middle 578 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: of the season right now. We've got recruiting going on, 579 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: we're raising money. You know, we got a big game 580 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: Saturday against Fordham at home, and so but uh, we've 581 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: had a blast. It's it's fun for us to be back. 582 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm in a room downstairs at our 583 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: Riley Center. You know the student newspaper where I met 584 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: my wife was just is just down the hall and 585 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: around the corner. So it's it's been a lot of fun. 586 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: Let me ask one more. So you know, listen, you 587 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: know I love hoops. I'm in the gym all the time. 588 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: You don't care. But we got a men's league game 589 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: tonight against Timofay Moscow and we got a great team. 590 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: But do you really I'm really playing Moscow. 591 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've usually beat him, but uh, he's got a 592 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: really good team this year. Point guard from USC Ethan Anderson. 593 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know the name, played at 594 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: Wyoming Pepperdine. Young guys. But uh, the interesting thing is 595 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 2: a lot of these college basketball players, let's be real, well, 596 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: a lot of them are not going to go to 597 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: the NBA. Some will probably go international. But for a 598 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: lot of these guys, this is their chance to make 599 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: big money or you know, one hundred and fifty thousand 600 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: whatever it is before they get a real job at enterprise, 601 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: rent a car, or you know whatever an accounting firm is. 602 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: And it's like, it's I understand why some of them 603 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: would be kind of sort of chasing money if basketball 604 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: isn't their future and this could be a bigger payday 605 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: than their first job. Have you had any of those 606 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: types of discussions with either players or agents. 607 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: No, it's a great point, Jason, And I mean, come on, 608 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 3: do the math. 609 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: Look at the draft. You know how many American college 610 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: players are in the draft every year? The number is 611 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 4: probably dwindling, right, is it thirty is a thirty five? 612 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: Is it thirty eight? 613 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: But players are coming from all over the world. Some 614 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: are coming from college and you're also seeing more European 615 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: players or international players because of the nil who might 616 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: have stayed and played for a club team in Europe. 617 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: They can make more as a frontline player, frontline starter 618 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: in college basketball. And so to me, that's a big 619 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: part of my responsibility. Our responsibility is I want to educate. 620 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: You know, at some point this season, I'll have Bobby 621 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: I want to get Bobby Marks in front of our guys, 622 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: probably after the season, and explain to guys what's a 623 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: what's an Exhibit ten deal. What's a summer league contracts? 624 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: What is a G league? What's a G league contract? 625 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 4: How do you progress? 626 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: I know everybody thinks about the first round or the 627 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: second round. 628 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 4: There's lots of ways. 629 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: Most guys listen, it's a very small number that are 630 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: going to be drafted, but there's plenty of ways. And 631 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: then the other factor, and I'll bring these guys through 632 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: and we talk about this, how do you build a 633 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 3: European career? How do you go about doing that? And 634 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: I think there's also going to be a realization for 635 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: a lot of guys that the money they're making in 636 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: nil at the college level, they're not going to just 637 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: start at that number. This For most many guys, it 638 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: will be the most they ever make. And are we 639 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: preparing them with financial literacy? Are we preparing them to 640 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: you have a right to do whatever you want with 641 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: the money that you earn. To you have a right 642 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: to do whatever you want with it. But I think 643 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: we have a responsibility to make sure that we expose 644 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: them to. 645 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 4: Again. 646 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: You know, we'll provide tax services for them so they 647 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: understand the tax and implications of earning and same with 648 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: their families and make sure everybody. It's a new frontier. 649 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: But to sit around and say, I always tell guys, 650 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 3: and we've had NBA players at Bonavento. I had great 651 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: relationships with Andrew Nicholson and Jayleen Custins who came through 652 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: and went to the NBA. If you're good enough, I 653 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: can help you. If you're good enough, I will make 654 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: sure people know what they need to know about you 655 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: and get you access. But if you're not good enough, 656 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: I can't help you. There's no magic dust. I'm gonna sprinkle. 657 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: But there are so many But I think we have 658 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: to also temper expectations about you can make a great 659 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 3: living playing basketball all over the world. There isn't just 660 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: the NBA, and you need to have the mindset and 661 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: the understanding and how to choose an agent and make 662 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: sure that you know it's somebody who has a track 663 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: record and who can show you, Hey, I've had success 664 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: with similar players than you. And we sort of have 665 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: this new agent space with Nil and it's great. There's 666 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 3: a lot like guys. I think it's great guys have 667 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: representation and help. These are significant financial deals. Yeah, I 668 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: don't do those things alone. You don't do those things alone. 669 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: Jason why should they do those things? But you know, 670 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 3: what you want to make sure is that you help 671 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: they find people who have track records, who have credibility, 672 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: who can help them maximize the money and then maximize 673 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: their career. And so for me at Bonaventure, you know, 674 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: those are all things that I try to help our 675 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: guys with as much or as little as they and 676 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: their families might want, you know, and bring in people 677 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: who can help them and expose them to people who 678 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: can help them answer those questions. 679 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: And last one, uh, last question, So staff building. I'm 680 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: fascinated by this because it sounds like you have an 681 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 2: analytics guy on staff. I'm just curious how you built 682 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: out your staff because listen, well, let's be real, kind 683 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: of tough to lure people to only in New York, 684 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: especially if they're you know, in their late twenties, like 685 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: it's a town of two thousand people Like you said. 686 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've not lured anybody to only in to work 687 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 3: for me. I don't have a budget for that. But 688 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 3: what we do have, and we're sort of getting it 689 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 3: off the ground, is you know an individual who lives 690 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 3: outside of this area, who has a great passion in 691 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: this great knowledge great basketball pedigree who's helping me from 692 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 3: afar And then you know, one thing we're starting to 693 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 3: do is you know, integrating our student at Saint BONAMTCH 694 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 3: or the Sports Analytics Club and letting those guys loose 695 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: on data and so they've we've got a great professor 696 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: or who runs that and so you know, we subscribe 697 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 3: to different services that help us with different data, different databases, 698 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: and so that is not my expert area of expertise. 699 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: What I think I can be helpful with is using 700 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: my relationships to bring potential players into the mix. And 701 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: then ultimately, again we've got to make decisions. Again, it's 702 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: not pro sports. You don't draft them. You got to 703 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: convince them to come. The money's got to work, it's 704 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 3: got to be a fit. 705 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 4: And so. 706 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 3: But that's what I'm trying to do or surround myself 707 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 3: with people who know, I know what my blind spots 708 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: are in this, and there's a lot of them coming in. 709 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: But I do have great enthusiasm. I believe in this 710 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: place and I have found in my time in doing this, 711 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 3: there are a lot of people who want to help 712 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: Saint Bonaventure basketball. A lot of folks who I've had 713 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: relationships with for a very long time. Who who who 714 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: you know, know our head coach and know the kind 715 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 3: of program we have and see the value that. 716 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 4: Players get here. 717 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: You look at our team this year and so many 718 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: guys who came in here or developed in our program 719 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: we're just have increased their value and their productivity and 720 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: their efficiency as players. And then you try to sell 721 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 3: that to the next group. 722 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very fun and exciting. Adrian Woljerowski, amazing stuff. 723 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: What a career. You know, this guy helped me get 724 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: my feet wet in Jersey. Help introduce me to my agent. 725 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: Like I listen, man, I've known you forever. A great guy. 726 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 2: Congrats on all your success and keep up the good work. 727 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: Man. 728 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 4: Well proud of you. Jason. 729 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 3: Still love watching you and it's it was fun to 730 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: be on and and and talk through some of the 731 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 3: stuff with you.