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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with

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Speaker 2: Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.

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Speaker 2: Carme Happy championship weekend. Are we How we doing out

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Speaker 2: in Chicago? Because from what I've seen, it's colder than

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Speaker 3: Can you confirm now the temperature is now in the

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Speaker 3: positive digits. Okay, so there's that's going for us, but

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Speaker 3: the Midwest is going through it right now for a

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Speaker 3: lot of reasons. So yeah, we're we're talking along. We're

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Speaker 3: here as unimportant a sports scene right now, we're talking

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Speaker 3: about them, and I'm covered in a blanket in my

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Speaker 4: It's great, well put, well put.

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Speaker 2: First off, I want to say congrats to Indiana first

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Speaker 2: time in school history there national champions and out out

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Speaker 2: to our faith Fernando Mendoza, who loved everything on the field.

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Speaker 2: He just announced he's officially declaring for the draft, and

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Speaker 2: he's been on a little media tour.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen it. I love this

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Speaker 3: More importantly, he updated, Yeah, he's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Do work first overall in the NFL draft. Hey, that's work.

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Speaker 2: And my LinkedIn status is officially a word. He said

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Speaker 2: that in his announcement. He is so aware and it

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Speaker 2: is so cute and like so on brand. Whoever gets

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Speaker 2: this man on their team, most likely the Raiders with

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Speaker 2: the number one overall pick, but like, you got a

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Speaker 2: real one, like it does not get much better than.

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Speaker 3: The probably the player that you can be nearly one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent certain that isn't going to succumb to any

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Speaker 3: temptations in Vegas nothing like. He's not. He's not. It's

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Speaker 3: not going to like distract him. It's not gonna whatever.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about him being out all

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Speaker 4: Like and so excited to be there and so and

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Speaker 3: He's a bright shining because I am so.

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Speaker 4: Excited for more of Fernando in the league.

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Speaker 3: Next, the reason I'm a little sad because we're now

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Speaker 3: losing the juxtaposition of Kurt Signetti versus Fernando Mendoza. Like

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Speaker 3: Kurt Signati who does not crack a smile ever after

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Speaker 3: the Mendoza he did. But I mean if you watch

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Speaker 3: Fernando is just like this, like the happiest, yeah, smiling

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Speaker 4: It was so good.

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Speaker 3: But it's okay because it's on the bigger and better things. Man.

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Speaker 3: The reality of that kind of stuff, though, sinks in

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Speaker 3: really quick because did you see Fernando Mendoza's brother who

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Speaker 2: Huh, there you go. It's all right, job done, job done, guys.

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Speaker 2: We got a great show for you today. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: break down the AFC and NFC championship games. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: do it, play a fun game called Nailed It or

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Speaker 2: Failed It, where CARMEI and I are gonna basically call

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Speaker 2: ourselves out for a take that we either nailed or

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Speaker 2: failed this year. We're gonna talk the coaching carousel. How

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Speaker 2: fast can these coaches like have success. We got a

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Speaker 2: couple of great guests today NFL Networks Bridget Condon, who

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Speaker 2: is covering that ram Seahawks game tomorrow. Then NFL dot

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Speaker 2: comsnix shook an hour two to break down the games.

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Speaker 2: We got producers share with us today, Technical producer Chris

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Speaker 2: and Martin. Why's at the news desk, but CARMEI, let's

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Speaker 2: start with the breaking news today. Okay, the Steelers just

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Speaker 2: made it officially official a verbal agreement. Mike McCarthy is

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Speaker 2: He's a super Bowl winning coach, the fourth most wins

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Speaker 3: So boring? Bored with this? It's such a same vanilla like, OK,

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Speaker 4: Feel like this cycle where there's been some it's immediate.

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Speaker 3: he was hired almost conditionally as an offensive coordinator, but

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Speaker 2: So it's a handshake deal like, if you don't get

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Speaker 3: Much as I love Mike Tomlin, I like, and you

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Speaker 4: That's they're playing it pol like they're not taking a

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Speaker 4: Stepped away, but it was probably a mutual.

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Speaker 3: It was a time if you're if you're gonna, you know,

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Speaker 3: It's a really nice story. Yeah, but how is that

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Speaker 3: very much in control of that team. Yes, he's very much,

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Speaker 3: and like signs point to yes he did. I would imagine,

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Speaker 3: That's where I think the relationship kind of severed with

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Speaker 3: I've been with you from the start. You're getting a

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Speaker 2: All Right, happy Championship weekend, everybody. Let's start with the

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Speaker 2: AFC Championship game, Patriots at Broncos, and the storyline in

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Speaker 2: this game is that the Broncos will not have Bonix.

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Speaker 4: The Broncos were celebrating and morning in the.

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Speaker 2: Same right, going through a whole range of oh my god,

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Speaker 4: Acle.

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you that even the Broncos coaching staff

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Speaker 2: Well, he had finished his presser and then he had

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Like, and the way that the Broncos won that game

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Speaker 4: It's very it's all about the catch.

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Speaker 4: Yes, there have no plan. No no, no, that was wild.

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Speaker 2: And then and now you're going up against the hottest

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Speaker 4: I mean, these were the two best teams in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Knee for who. By the way, who did he start for?

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Speaker 3: Been a defensive led team. Bonix has been up and

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Speaker 3: I'm not speaking to the ceiling that Bonix can reach,

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Speaker 3: defense in the league. So I don't know that this

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Speaker 3: matters as much for Denver, but as it would for

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Speaker 3: another team like the Bills if they were without Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: or even think the Patriots if they were without Drake May.

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Speaker 2: I like think it matters because of how good the

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Speaker 2: Patriots defense was last game. They won that game. They

442
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Speaker 2: forced five turnovers, they picked off CJ. Stroud four times,

443
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Speaker 2: recovered to fumble. So when you have a backup guy

444
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Speaker 2: coming in against defense that's also so locked in, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is, again I think, going to be like a

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Speaker 2: defensive showdown between these two teams.

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Speaker 3: But I mean he's entering into like it matters. Don't

448
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Speaker 3: get me wrong, it absolutely matters because it's a backup.

449
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Speaker 3: It's not your starting quarterback, and if he was as

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Speaker 3: good as your starting quarterback, he'd be your starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But I'm saying it doesn't matter as much as it

452
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Speaker 3: might for other teams because of the team around him.

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Speaker 3: Not only do you have that defense, you also have

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Speaker 3: what I think is one of the most underrated it's

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Speaker 3: in the league, in the Broncos offensive line. We don't

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Speaker 3: talk enough about how good they are and how well

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Speaker 3: they can protect, and that they do have a complimentary

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Speaker 3: run game. So this is something where you lean a

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Speaker 3: little bit more on your run game. You lean on

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Speaker 3: the protection that the offensive line can give you. You

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Speaker 3: try to control the clock as much as possible, You

462
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Speaker 3: try to sustain drives as much as possible, keeping Drake

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Speaker 3: May off the field for as long as you possibly can,

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Speaker 3: and then you rely on your defense to hopefully not

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Speaker 3: only limit the amount of points that Drake May and

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Speaker 3: the Patriots are going to put up, but also give

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Speaker 3: you extra chances if you're Jarrett Stidam and get those takeaways.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's a recipe that the Broncos

469
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Speaker 3: can win with. It's not going to be easy, but

470
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Speaker 3: this was not ideal and I couldn't believe it happened.

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Speaker 3: But I still think it's going to be a good

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Speaker 3: game because of the team around Jarrett Stidham and how

473
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Speaker 3: this team is so much more complete. And if you're

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Speaker 3: going to ask a backup to go in there and

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Speaker 3: do something, I think this is the team that you

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Speaker 3: do it with harmony.

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Speaker 4: You are going hard for Denver. I was not expecting that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I also, I mean this is this is

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Speaker 3: taking place in Denver. That matters. I know that matters,

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Speaker 3: Like being at altitude matters. Yeah, my guys getting do.

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Speaker 2: Like Broncos at home during the playoffs against the Patriots

482
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Speaker 2: are undefeated.

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Speaker 3: I have been. In fact, I have been talking so

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Speaker 3: much about how much I love Drake May. Yeah, ever

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Speaker 3: since he was drafted. In fact, I'm the biggest Drake

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Speaker 3: May believer, and this defense has come on really strong

487
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Speaker 3: in the postseason under Mike Rabel. The Patriots are going

488
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Speaker 3: to be just fine. Yeah, But and I and at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, I still think they probably

490
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Speaker 3: will win. But I think I think people are counting

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Speaker 3: out the Broncos too fast. That's my issue with all

492
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Speaker 3: of this interest is I think that I think people

493
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Speaker 3: are like, oh, they don't know Bonix, They're done. I'm like,

494
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Speaker 3: since when when would you have ever said that during

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Speaker 3: this season? You wouldn't have. You just wouldn't have, because again,

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Speaker 3: this team's identity does not revolve around Bonis.

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Speaker 4: But it is their leader. And I just I'm not

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Speaker 4: as obviously not as confident in this team.

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Speaker 3: And no, I would be more confident if they had

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Speaker 3: next But it was just just I think it's still

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Speaker 3: going to be a fight.

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Speaker 4: I think it's still I hope so because I just

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Speaker 4: no game bio.

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Speaker 3: Means do I think the Patriots are going to run

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Speaker 3: over them?

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Speaker 4: Interesting? All right, let's check O with Martin Wise and

507
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Speaker 4: see what's trending.

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Speaker 7: Joelle E ANDB twenty eight first half points. Right now,

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Speaker 7: the seventy six Ers leading the next sixty four to

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Speaker 7: sixty at the Little Matinee Basketball As in the NBA

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Speaker 7: Men's College Basketball perduing in Illinois, a top ten are

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Speaker 7: sorry top eleven? I should say, is Illinois the eleventh

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Speaker 7: rank team matchup on Fox eleven minutes and forty seconds

514
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Speaker 7: left in the second half, that game's tied tifty seven apiece,

515
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Speaker 7: I always say. In Oklahoma State, the ninth ring Cyclones

516
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Speaker 7: with a sixty four to forty three lead over the

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Speaker 7: Cowboys and with eleven forty two left in the first half,

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Speaker 7: Auburn as a twenty one to twelve lead over sixteenth

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Speaker 7: rank Florida and NFL coaching cycle, the Pittsburgh Steelers have

520
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Speaker 7: verbally agreed to hire former Packers and Cowboys head coach

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Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy as their new head coach, fourth to one

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Speaker 7: in franchise history. Dolphins promoting senior passing game coordinator Bobby

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Speaker 7: Schloeg to offensive coordinator slog previously and oceing Houston. Before

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Speaker 7: joining the Dolphins, the Raiders interviewed Brian Daboll, the former

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Speaker 7: Giants head coach, for their vacant head coaching position. Former

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Speaker 7: Dolphins defensive coordinator. Anthony Weaver is set to interview with

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Speaker 7: the Arizona Cardinals for the second time for their vacant

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Speaker 7: head coaching spot. The jetri interviewing week Martindale for their

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Speaker 7: vacant defensive coordinator spot and forty diners offense. According to Clint,

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Speaker 7: Kubiak has withdrawn himself from head coaching consideration. He was

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Speaker 7: being interviewed by the Raiders and the Steelers. The NBA

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Speaker 7: announced today that today's game between the Warriors and the

533
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Speaker 7: Timberwolves has postponed in order to prioritize the safety and

534
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Speaker 7: security of the Minneapolis community. The game rescheduled for tomorrow,

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Speaker 7: five point thirty Eastern time. The Grizzlies announced that John

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Speaker 7: Moran will miss at least three weeks due to a

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Speaker 7: spring ucl and has left elbow, and the Cleveland Guardians

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Speaker 7: third basement Jose Ramirez agreed to a seven year, one

539
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Speaker 7: hundred and seventy five million dollar extension.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you, Martin. You're listening to Fox

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Speaker 2: Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitale. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for spending your Saturday afternoon with Karme. I mean

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Speaker 2: it is time for our first guest. She's covering I

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Speaker 2: think the game of the weekend Rams at Seahawks tomorrow

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Speaker 2: up in Seattle. Please welcome NFL Networks Bridget Condon.

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Speaker 8: Hi, guys, I'm yeah, and it is the game of

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Speaker 8: the weekend. It's going to come down to the final possession.

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Speaker 8: I already know it.

549
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Speaker 3: And well, you're finally going it now, brist You finally

550
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Speaker 3: don't have to like wear seventeen different layers and like

551
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Speaker 3: bundle all the way up and you can do like

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Speaker 3: a fit check and everything, which I'm so much look

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Speaker 3: forward to.

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Speaker 8: You guys know you guys know how much we all

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Speaker 8: put into our fits. And I just want to say

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Speaker 8: I was very excited about this opportunity, Carmen, because I

557
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Speaker 8: could finally, like, I don't know, not wear a puffer.

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Speaker 8: But guess what I tried on thirty outfits last night

559
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Speaker 8: came out. I literally was sudding. We ended with an

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Speaker 8: all black outfits and.

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Speaker 4: It's the back so it's it's.

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Speaker 8: The end of the season and I can't. I can't

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Speaker 8: do it anymore.

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Speaker 4: You're doing right. All black is all black is that's

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Speaker 4: my uniform. It's my best. Okay, it's all Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I try, but I don't know not this.

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Speaker 2: Year, Bridget like, this feels like this is the best

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Speaker 2: matchup we're going to get possibly for Like people are

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Speaker 2: saying this could be like this is the super Bowl,

570
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Speaker 2: like the best matchup of the super Bowl. It's obviously

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Speaker 2: not the super Bowl, but like Sam Donald has just

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Speaker 2: gone above and beyond I think everyone's expectations this year.

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Speaker 2: But the Rams like kind of have been his kryptonite.

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Speaker 2: And what are you expecting to see tomorrow up in Seattle.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting. I was at Rams practice yesterday

576
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Speaker 8: and in the locker room post game or post practice,

577
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Speaker 8: so many guys said that exact line to me, that

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Speaker 8: this feels like they're super Bowl, like this week is

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Speaker 8: the week. And of course you can't look ahead to

580
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Speaker 8: the super Bowl this late in the playoffs, so it

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Speaker 8: is not one game in mentality, and this is the

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Speaker 8: game in front of them. But they all also felt

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Speaker 8: like after that Week sixteen loss, they were going to

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Speaker 8: be back there. And I asked a lot of guys like,

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Speaker 8: how'd you feel walking off the field week sixteen, and

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Speaker 8: they said, oh, I knew he'd be back here, Like

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Speaker 8: I just didn't know where it would be. But like

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Speaker 8: whether it have been the divisional rounders, the championship, but

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Speaker 8: I knew this matchup was going to come again. And

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Speaker 8: that's a testament just to how good the NFC West is.

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Speaker 8: But Sam Darnald has had so much trouble against the

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Speaker 8: Rams the last three outings just three touchdowns, thirteen sacks,

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Speaker 8: seven interceptions, And you know that could be the X factor.

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Speaker 8: But when you look at the improvement that Sam Donald

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Speaker 8: has had and just the way that he's been able

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Speaker 8: to be consistent, I think is the biggest ability that

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Speaker 8: he has. I was talking to an exec with the

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Speaker 8: Seahawks actually this morning, and I was asking him what

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Speaker 8: they liked in Sam Donald, and he mentioned a game

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Speaker 8: last season when Donald was with the Vikings and they

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Speaker 8: played in December in Seattle. He said, it was so loud,

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Speaker 8: it was deafening. They sacked Sam Donald and he couldn't

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Speaker 8: like believe that this guy. The next very next play

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Speaker 8: through like an incredible paston Jefferson and the Vikings ended

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Speaker 8: up winning that game. And he's like, that is Sam Darnald.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't matter what any of us think, It doesn't

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Speaker 8: matter about the numbers, it doesn't matter that everybody's saying,

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Speaker 8: oh well, the Seahawks. They're not going to make it

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Speaker 8: because of Sam Donald. He doesn't care and it really

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Speaker 8: doesn't affect him, Like you know, the Seahawks have found

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Speaker 8: ways to beat the Rams with Sam Donald at their quarterback,

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Speaker 8: even when he doesn't have his best game. So I

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Speaker 8: think it's going to determine. It's going to come down

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Speaker 8: to a turnover. That's kind of what it feels like,

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Speaker 8: you know, like whether that's Sam Donald throwing a pick

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Speaker 8: or Matthew Stafford or just a crazy catch like Cam

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Speaker 8: Curl's interception last game. It's just it feels like you

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Speaker 8: cannot make a mistake in this game, and whoever makes

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Speaker 8: a mistake, unfortunately, is going to lose this. There's no

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Speaker 8: room for error.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so interesting because I mean that Thursday night

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Speaker 3: game between these two teams was just absolutely bonkers, and

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Speaker 3: you look at that as like maybe the game of

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Speaker 3: the year, of the regular season at least, And I

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Speaker 3: don't envy anyone, like really, I mean, we're going to

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Speaker 3: analyze is it a little bit more in depth? And

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Speaker 3: I don't want to because I don't think there is

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Speaker 3: a way to predict how this is going to go.

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Speaker 3: But I really want to I really want to hone

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Speaker 3: in on what Sam Donald's been able to do this

631
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Speaker 3: year in general, because I mean, coming from the Jets

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Speaker 3: and that whole saga, and then his brief stint in

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Speaker 3: San Francisco, and then he goes to Minnesota and then oh,

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell fixed him. But then he goes to Seattle

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Speaker 3: and everybody's like, are we sure Sam Donald's fixed? Is it? Okay? Okay?

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Speaker 8: I mean even now people are still like not thinking

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Speaker 8: that he's good.

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 8: I could say that he doesn't belong here and he's

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Speaker 8: going to be the reason their season ends. And Sam

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Speaker 8: Donald's a good quarterback. I don't know when we as

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Speaker 8: a society are going to be ready to talk about that,

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Speaker 8: but Sam Donald is a good quarterback and he's the

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Speaker 8: reason part of the reason the Seahawks are in this

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Speaker 8: position to go to the super Bowl if they went

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Speaker 8: on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: That's yeah.

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Speaker 3: That like his his just mental fortitude through all of this, I.

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Speaker 8: Think too, what we don't realize is in that Thursday

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Speaker 8: night game between the Niners and the Seahawks, the Seahawks

651
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Speaker 8: went for two three times and they got all three. Okay.

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Speaker 8: Not only does that like show the confidence that they

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Speaker 8: have in their quarterback, their offense. But that also shows

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Speaker 8: how close this game was. Had they not executed on

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Speaker 8: a two point conversion one time, we would be talking

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Speaker 8: about this game here in Los Angeles. So, yes, Sam

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Speaker 8: Darnold is I think it's a perfect fit for him

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Speaker 8: in Seattle. I think he has the right pieces JSN.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's playing incredible, incredible football this year too,

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Speaker 8: his receiver Jackson Smith's and Jigba. But it's just the

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Speaker 8: whole collective unit of Seahawks players that make this such

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Speaker 8: a fun game to talk about.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: The Rams have the playoff experience obviously, right, but Seattle

665
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Speaker 2: has been one of the hottest teams during the second

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Speaker 2: half of the season, and Seattle's one playoff win was

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Speaker 2: a blowout. And while the Rams have come down to

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter or over time, I'm like, last minute

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Speaker 2: coming back to get it. What do you think is

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Speaker 2: going to be the bigger factor in this game? The

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Speaker 2: Rams experience or the Seahawks momentum.

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Speaker 8: I think you got to kind of throw away the

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Speaker 8: beginning of the playoffs for both of these teams. Yes,

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Speaker 8: Matthew Stafford's experience I think will show up late in

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Speaker 8: this game, and it always does when he's playing quarterback, right,

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Speaker 8: Like that's why they won against the Panthers and one

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Speaker 8: against the Bear. I don't think many quarterbacks could have

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Speaker 8: maintained composure after Caleb Williams throws an incredible incredible touchdowns,

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Speaker 8: Like I don't think not even Matthew Stafford, like guys

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Speaker 8: were telling me yesterday, and I think it was miked up.

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Speaker 8: Sean mcday's message to the team after that happened. He said, like,

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Speaker 8: we're going to go win it. Don't talk about it,

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Speaker 8: like we'll figure it out later, but like we got

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Speaker 8: to go win this. And that's definitely experienced. But divisional

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Speaker 8: games are so weird. We look at like I just

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Speaker 8: always think about the Browns, right when the Browns have

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Speaker 8: like terrible seasons, they still can how beat the Ravens

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Speaker 8: or the Steelers, right, because it's like when these teams

689
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 8: know each other so well, throw everything out else out

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Speaker 8: for better or worse. These guys know the good, the bad,

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Speaker 8: everything that's going to happen in this game. And that's

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Speaker 8: why I say it's not so much like when you

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Speaker 8: look at how the Rams have played in the playoffs,

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Speaker 8: they have not played well, you know, like they barely

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Speaker 8: beat the Panthers and then also maybe shouldn't have beaten

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Speaker 8: the Bears. And they're here, and I think we'll see

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Speaker 8: their best football against the Seahawks because you need to

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Speaker 8: play it against the number one defense in the league.

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Speaker 8: And same with Seattle. The forty nine ers were banged

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Speaker 8: up and that was just kind of like a It

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Speaker 8: was just kind of a weird game. I don't think

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Speaker 8: it's going to be a blowout one way or the other,

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Speaker 8: and I think it really is going to come down

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Speaker 8: to who makes the least amount of mistake.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about the Rams defense really quick, too,

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Speaker 3: because I think what happened in the Panthers game and

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Speaker 3: then subsequently how the Bears tried to attack them, was, Hey,

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Speaker 3: the outside corners, the secondary is a little vulnerable, and

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Speaker 3: they rely very heavily on that front seven in Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles to get things done. How do you think that's

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Speaker 3: going to fair when Sam Donald has guys like JSN

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Speaker 3: at his disposal that he can kind of attack the

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Speaker 3: outside on that Rams defense.

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Speaker 8: Well, Seattle has struggled in that regard during the regular

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Speaker 8: season about against the Rams, getting the ball to receivers

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Speaker 8: on the outside. And I think there's so much this

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Speaker 8: week that has been said about Seattle's number one defense

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Speaker 8: going against the rams number one offense. And that was

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Speaker 8: my question to a lot of the guys in the

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Speaker 8: locker room yesterday, was well, what about your defense? And

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Speaker 8: Cam Curle, which, let me just say, incredible interview. If

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Speaker 8: you guys have a chance to talk to him super

723
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Speaker 8: Bowl week, you have to because he's so funny. He

724
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 8: kind of essentially was like, man, I don't really know

725
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Speaker 8: if I should have made that. He didn't say this,

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Speaker 8: but he was like alluding to the fact that He's like,

727
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 8: I wanted to help the team, but I didn't want

728
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 8: all this media attention. This is hilarious. But he's like,

729
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 8: I just liked a ball a dB. I like, I

730
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Speaker 8: love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 8: But he was like, I don't need to say anything

733
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Speaker 8: about us not getting attention this week because we're going

734
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Speaker 8: to go out there and show it. And I think

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Speaker 8: because there's so much emphasis on how good this Seahawks

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Speaker 8: defense is, we're forgetting that the Rams were top ten

737
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Speaker 8: to two in terms of scoring defense. Okay, they're not

738
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 8: a bad defense, it's just the number one offense against

739
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 8: the number one defense is kind of outweighing the conversation

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Speaker 8: of the Rams defense. So I think, Look, Sam, Darnold

741
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Speaker 8: and JSN have been electric. Do I think that they'll

742
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Speaker 8: have success? Yes, but I don't think it's a gimme.

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Speaker 8: And I think these Rams corners have continued to get

744
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Speaker 8: better as this defense has grown throughout the season.

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Speaker 4: Bridge, It's going to be such a good game tomorrow,

746
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Speaker 4: I have the bumble time. It's going to be so

747
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Speaker 4: good and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to the all black fit.

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Speaker 4: Yes, guy, last made it.

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Speaker 8: Just tell me you love.

751
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: It because I I'm going to.

752
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: We're going to get hype you up no matter what.

753
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: Already obsessed. We love you, Bridge, Thank you. SAVEE travels out.

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Speaker 3: There, Bye Bridge.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, when we come back, the Does and

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Speaker 2: the don't and sports. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, it is time for the dues and

773
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: the don'ts in sports.

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00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Highlighting the dunes. I love that putting a spotlight on

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00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: the don't.

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00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: The subject brings me no joy.

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00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: That's insane.

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00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I gotta do and it do go off.

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Speaker 2: Indiana For the first time in program history, Indiana are

781
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: national champs and there is so much fun and happy

782
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: all around. Obviously, Fernando Mendoza's reflection in the game and

783
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: postgame and now on his full media tour, he was

784
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: so good on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon This

785
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: man was made for TV and even on the Today Show.

786
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: After announcing he is officially declaring for the NFL Draft,

787
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: he Carson Daley came out and just apologized to him

788
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: as a Raiders fan of like, if you come to us,

789
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, And his reaction to that was just like

790
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: I am just so grateful.

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00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: I would be so grateful.

792
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 2: It's such a blessing to get picked by anybody, whether

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00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: it's the first or the last team in the draft,

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00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: like he is just like everything he does is just

795
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful.

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00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: Obviously he changes Lincoln status to open to work.

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00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: I just I love this man. And then also Chris

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00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: Signetti having the best post game beer of his life.

799
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: That was like the first time we saw him smile

800
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: all season. And then there were some incredible fan moments.

801
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: There was this Indiana fan on a flight to Miami.

802
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: He made an announcement on the flight, like literally like

803
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: he stood up, got the entire flight's attention, ladies and gentlemen.

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00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: My name is John and I like to have fun.

805
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: Everywhere I go, And he got the whole plane to

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00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: do Indiana Chance with him, Like the streets of Bloomington

807
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: were raging, like I'm just I'm so happy for that

808
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: program in that school. That was an incredible moment in season.

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Speaker 3: Who's your there? Okay, no, very happy and very actually happy.

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Speaker 3: Let's shout out our very own Indiana hoosier who's coming

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Speaker 3: on after us.

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00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: Buck Rising was there. He went to Indiana.

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Speaker 3: He's a huge, huge, huge, Like I mean, if you

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00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: know anything about Buck, you know he went to Indiana.

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00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 3: He's from Indiana. I mean, it's just he's a homegrown

816
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: kid and he is coming on with Bucking fits after

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00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: our show. So shout out to Buck. Congratulated him after.

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00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: But I don't think he was entirely coherent. No, No,

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Speaker 3: he was in Miami at the game. Yeah, as phenomenal. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: all right, I've got to do do. Apparently, put cayenne

821
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: pepper in your socks to stay warm. What you didn't

822
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: see this? What your rams when they came to Chicago.

823
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: So apparently this was something that you're you're preparing for

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Speaker 3: fridgid temperatures in Chicago, and so guys were putting cayenne

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Speaker 3: pepper in their socks for their feet to stay warm.

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Speaker 3: And Kaylan Color, who works for ESPN, just a good

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Speaker 3: friend of mine, lives in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: She tested this out this.

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Speaker 3: Week while the temperatures were in the sub zero. I

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Speaker 3: mean we had we had actual temperatures of like negative eight,

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Speaker 3: not without the windshill. It was like negative twenty five

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Speaker 3: with the wind.

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Speaker 2: Shoulder than Antarctica, way colder than America, especially because it's

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Speaker 2: summer there.

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Speaker 3: But uh, Kaylan actually tried this out and she was like, guys,

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Speaker 3: I was so ready to be a hater, but this

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Speaker 3: My feet are like warm and light and it kind

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Speaker 3: of works. When I first heard that the Rams were

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Speaker 3: doing that, I was like, Okay, okay, guys that have

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Speaker 3: no idea like what it's actually like to be in

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Speaker 3: cold weather weirdos. And according to Kaylin, Colorado works.

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Speaker 4: I love that. That's so cool. Fun fact.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to try it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you are, okay. Do celebrate with your family. After

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Speaker 2: the Patriots won last week and Drake May went back

846
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: out on the field to play football with his family

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Speaker 2: in the snow, throwing deep passes in an empty stadium

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Speaker 2: with like a full snow show, and I just.

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Speaker 4: That was so cool.

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Speaker 3: That's really cute.

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Speaker 4: I love moments like that.

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Speaker 2: It's like when they can like take a moment step

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Speaker 2: back and really bring the family into like, oh, this

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Speaker 2: is really cool, but we're still just kids playing a

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Speaker 2: game that we love.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 4: It's just like.

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Speaker 3: Real quick. Yeah, my other don't don't get head coaching

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Speaker 3: candidate's homework. What are you doing Brown?

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Speaker 2: When we come back Nailed It or Failed It? You're

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 2: with Carmee and me coming to you live.

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Speaker 4: From the Fox Sports Radio studios in La.

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Speaker 2: Now, we talked about the coaching carousel top of hour one,

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Speaker 2: breaking news today that Mike McCarthy is now the head

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Speaker 2: coach of the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Both Carme and I, you know what I said? Okay,

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Speaker 4: CARMEI said Vanilla, but.

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Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I was boring.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well we'll see, we'll see what happens here.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to a fun game called Nailed It

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Speaker 2: or Failed It?

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Speaker 4: In just a bit. We got Nick Schuk joining us

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Speaker 4: in about thirty minutes.

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Speaker 3: of your presets in the iHeartRadio app so it will

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Speaker 3: always pop up at the top of your screen.

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Speaker 4: All right, carme, it's time to be honest. Call ourselves

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Speaker 4: out right now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not scared.

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Speaker 4: Okay, good.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna play a fun game called Nailed It or

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Speaker 2: Failed It where we call ourselves out for nailing a

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Speaker 2: hot take or failing a hot take. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: start with a nailed it here. Okay, okay, you can

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Speaker 2: never count out the Rams or Bears late in games.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the best back and forth ends

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Speaker 2: of a game moment we've had and seen all season.

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Speaker 2: After that, Caleb Williams throw fourth down under thirty seconds

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00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: left in the games can seem scramble run back. He

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Speaker 2: started the fourteen through the ball at the four He

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Speaker 2: almost felt like a hail married type throw.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was playing Madden like that was That's

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Speaker 3: not physically possible.

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Speaker 4: That was insane.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody was that emoji where your head's just exploding,

908
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Speaker 2: like watching what we just see?

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Speaker 3: My jaw involuntarily dropped. What did we? And everybody was

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Speaker 3: just we looked. I looked around at everybody and like

911
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't close my mouth. My mouth stayed open for

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Speaker 3: like probably a minute and a half. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 3: I could not. As much as this team has surprised me,

914
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Speaker 3: and as crazy of things as I've seen so far

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Speaker 3: this season from the Bears and these crazy fourth quarter comebacks,

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Speaker 3: that was not. As soon as the ball was snapped

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Speaker 3: and he's having a back pedal, I was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: they were done. It's fine, they're done.

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Speaker 4: And then the throw physics, it was so perfect.

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Speaker 3: No one was there the way that it dropped into

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Speaker 3: the bread basket for col Kamen insane, but like it

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Speaker 3: didn't look like when he even when he let go

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Speaker 3: of the ball, it didn't look like it was going

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Speaker 3: to get there. Like I don't understand, like the wind

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Speaker 3: carried I don't even know. It literally bent the laws

926
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Speaker 3: of physics and I know nothing, I know nothing.

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Speaker 4: It was insane.

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Speaker 2: But then you have Matthew Stafford who bounced right back

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Speaker 2: with that insane throat to DeVante Adams just barely keeping

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Speaker 2: both his feet in in ot. I mean the way

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Speaker 2: these two teams just never gave up. It was an

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Speaker 2: incredible game. You could feel the momentum shifts like on TV.

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Speaker 4: I mean you were there. As you just mentioned, it

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Speaker 4: was absolutely insane.

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Speaker 2: But I think the biggest takeaway from that game is

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Speaker 2: that like Chicago and Kayleb Williams and Ben Johnson, they're

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Speaker 2: going to be just fine. This is just the beginning

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Speaker 2: and they're only gonna get better. So CARMEI like, I

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Speaker 2: don't think you need to like temper your expectations anymore.

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Speaker 4: That was well okay, and that brings me.

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Speaker 3: It's a good segue into my name. I haven't nailed

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Speaker 3: it and have failed it. Oh about the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Let's go essentially, two things can be true, two things

944
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Speaker 3: can be true. So I go went into this season

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Speaker 3: with Ben Johnson with all the off season additions they made,

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Speaker 3: most specifically the offensive line. Yeah, where I said, this

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Speaker 3: is most optimistic I've been about the Chicago Bears. Yes,

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Speaker 3: in a very long time. How many times did I

949
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Speaker 3: say that I sided a bunch and I nailed it.

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Speaker 4: To let yourself get too high.

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Speaker 3: I nailed well. I nailed it where I was like, yes,

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Speaker 3: I am the most optimistic I've ever been about the Bears. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and it worked out. But where I failed it is

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Speaker 3: that I thought it was going to take some time

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Speaker 3: to get there. I thought that we were going to

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Speaker 3: have to I thought I was going to have to

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Speaker 3: temper expectations in Chicago because the way that I watched

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson take over the offensive coordinator job in Detroit

959
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Speaker 3: and he went one in six to start out, and

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Speaker 3: I was like, I know that this is a He

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Speaker 3: even told us in training camp for the Bears that

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Speaker 3: this was this this initial install was more complicated than

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Speaker 3: anything that he initially installed in Detroit and how his

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Speaker 3: scheme has evolved and it's very complex. And he was

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Speaker 3: asking Kayleb Williams to go under center quite a bit

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Speaker 3: for that under Center kind of play action game, which

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Speaker 3: is not something that Kayleb Williams ever did. And I

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Speaker 3: was like, this is going to take a while, and

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Speaker 3: that's fine. I was totally fine with it taking a while.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I was still very optimistic that it

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Speaker 3: was going to eventually work out. I just thought there

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Speaker 3: were gonna be a lot more bumps in the road

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Speaker 3: before it absolutely got there.

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Speaker 4: And to be fair, yeah there were a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of bumps in the road. They just happened to

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Speaker 3: still win those games.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Which is the wild part about all of this is

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Speaker 3: the Bears stats. If you took their stats from the

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Speaker 3: first quarter through the third quarter, yeah, and you like

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Speaker 3: the season stats from the first through the third quarter, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this team would have finished like last in the league

983
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Speaker 3: when it comes to like how many points they scored,

984
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Speaker 3: how many stops they had, like all of this stuff.

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Speaker 3: Their their stats were horrendous and you can you can

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Speaker 3: pick and choose however many you want. Their fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: Stats were the best by.

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Speaker 3: Far of any team in the league. It was absolutely ludicrous.

989
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Speaker 3: So I was both right and wrong about my predictions

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Speaker 3: for the Socker Bears.

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Speaker 2: I mean madness, Like that was wild, Okay, I gotta

992
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Speaker 2: failed it for me that they were going to have

993
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Speaker 2: a revenge game. Boy was I wrong? Once again. I

994
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: need to apologize to to Sam Darnold and the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: That game was over the moment it started when the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: you know the Rani touchdown. Yeah, Like they were just

997
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: so locked in and never slowed down. I thought the

998
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Speaker 2: oblague was going to be a bigger deal, but you

999
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Speaker 2: like you couldn't tell. I mean, they made adjustments. It

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Speaker 2: was more of a run game. But the Seahawks team

1001
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Speaker 2: is just clicking on all cylinders. Like every phase of

1002
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Speaker 2: this team played great when they needed to. The defense

1003
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Speaker 2: forced turnovers. They haven't allowed a touchdown in the last

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Speaker 2: two games. Again, both the games were against the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers. Its just yeah, Seattle. Seattle ran that game

1006
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Speaker 2: in every sense of the word, like literally mentally everything

1007
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Speaker 2: I got, Yeah, I failed that.

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Speaker 3: I felt, yeah, that was a failed that one that

1009
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Speaker 3: was not that was not a fun game to watch, which.

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Speaker 4: It was like immediately I was like, oh no, it was.

1011
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Speaker 3: It was.

1012
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Speaker 4: It was a come down from the bad.

1013
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Speaker 3: It was such a come down from like the Bills

1014
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Speaker 3: brought me game because like I was, I was at

1015
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Speaker 3: a bar when that game wrapped up, and then we're like, oh, like,

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Speaker 3: let's stick around for the next game. You know, it's

1017
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Speaker 3: like it should be a good one. We'll see you, right,

1018
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Speaker 3: And then by by the end of the first quarter,

1019
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Speaker 3: we were all like, so I'm tired. I'm just gonna

1020
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Speaker 3: go home and watch the rest of it from my couch. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, the Niners injuries had to catch and

1022
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Speaker 3: it did and the Bears. Like I said the same

1023
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Speaker 3: thing about the Bears and their fourth quarter comebacks, where

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Speaker 3: I was like that stuff doesn't fly in the postseason.

1025
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Speaker 3: And what's wild is that it kind of did fly

1026
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Speaker 3: for the Bears because they still forced over.

1027
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Speaker 2: I think I said to you, like, no, if they win,

1028
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Speaker 2: it's going to be because they come back crazy like

1029
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: that in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm just like, it's it's not it shouldn't

1031
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Speaker 3: like these things shouldn't be possible in the postseason. And

1032
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Speaker 3: having as many injuries as the forty nine ers have

1033
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Speaker 3: just it just got up.

1034
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Speaker 4: It did.

1035
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Speaker 3: It was gonna was always going to catch up to

1036
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: this team, unfortunately, And honestly, that's not to take away

1037
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Speaker 3: from everything that Kyle Shanahan was able to do this

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Speaker 3: season with what he had available, because it just seemed

1039
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Speaker 3: like every other week there was a massive Niners injury

1040
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Speaker 3: that happened that he had to atone for. So uh,

1041
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: really just masterclass as far as coaching goes when when

1042
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Speaker 3: you talk about Kyle Shanahan this year. But yeah, I mean,

1043
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Speaker 3: injuries are the great equalizer in the NFL. All right,

1044
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Speaker 3: I have a failed it. I was thinking that Pete

1045
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: Carroll could turn things around.

1046
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Speaker 4: Yeah I did too.

1047
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Speaker 2: I I at least thought that he bring like some

1048
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Speaker 2: stability anything.

1049
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Speaker 3: I thought, you bring some stability, I thought, yeah, exactly,

1050
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Speaker 3: Like I thought that he would turn around the culture

1051
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: even if they didn't like win, because I knew it

1052
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: was going to be obviously a very tough division and

1053
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Speaker 3: this that the other. But I was like, you know,

1054
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Speaker 3: if if he can start to like lay a good

1055
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Speaker 3: foundation and bring back that that you know, this stable

1056
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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll from those Seahawks days, I'm like, you know,

1057
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Speaker 3: this could work. And like Gino's a good quarterback, Like

1058
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Speaker 3: you know, he happened to have gotten sacked a whole lot,

1059
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Speaker 3: but like you know, and you got John my dude,

1060
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Speaker 3: John Spytech, who I still believe in, but like you know,

1061
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Speaker 3: he very much understands the importance of the offensive line.

1062
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Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, you know, they're gonna get

1063
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Speaker 3: the offensive line right, And it just none of it materialized.

1064
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Speaker 2: Nothing that was brutal, sad way to see Pete Carroll

1065
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Speaker 2: like kind of go out, Yeah for such a legendary

1066
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Speaker 2: what is he.

1067
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Speaker 4: Like seventy yeah, he's up there something like that.

1068
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Speaker 3: I don't know, he's a young's he's a young seventy something. Yeah,

1069
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Speaker 3: and you thought, you know, you kind of thought that

1070
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Speaker 3: he still had some juice left in. But I was

1071
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Speaker 3: very much. I remember doing a show with Steve Hartman

1072
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Speaker 3: actually earlier in the season, and it was like week

1073
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Speaker 3: three or something like that. Yeah, and Steve was like,

1074
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Speaker 3: now Pete Carroll's got to go, and I was like.

1075
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Speaker 4: What, like it's the third week or the fourth.

1076
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Speaker 3: Week, Like you got to give these guys some time,

1077
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Speaker 3: like they have to, they have so much to overhaul,

1078
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Speaker 3: and then it just never got better.

1079
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's yeah, that was brutal. I also I also

1080
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Speaker 4: failed that.

1081
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Speaker 2: One too, Okay, Like it's I feel so well, no,

1082
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Speaker 2: because they might be getting Fernando Mendoza and like that's true.

1083
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 2: That's that is a culture change right there, that leader,

1084
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: and that like he's gonna come in and just I mean,

1085
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Speaker 2: I hope he's well received in.

1086
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 4: The NFL by his teammates. But like this man puts

1087
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 4: in the work, has the perfect attitude.

1088
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: Like if any like one player can like help turn

1089
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: like I mean emotionally a team around, it's Fernando Mendoza.

1090
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: I mean more than one player, though, You're gonna need

1091
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 3: to nail this head coaching higher. Oh, I'm very interesting

1092
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: interested to see. I mean, they they had hired John

1093
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 3: spy Tech last year. They are sticking with John spy Tech.

1094
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: And you've got you've got to nail this one. You've

1095
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: just got to nail it.

1096
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: You do, Okay, I have nailed it, okay, And it's

1097
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: kind of a sad nailed it. But Sean McDermott was

1098
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: coaching for his job. This was just a heartbreaking loss.

1099
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: And to watch the motion of Josh Allen and his

1100
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: other teammates cry in their postgame pressers and interviews, you

1101
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: could feel the devastation and the way it ended, like

1102
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: the catch that wasn't a catch, that was a catch,

1103
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: the fact that it wasn't reviewed longer and it was

1104
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: in ot and Sean tried to he called.

1105
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: A timeout to ask them to review it.

1106
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: But I it's tough because I kind of had a

1107
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: feeling like regardless of you know, if it was this

1108
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: game or the game before, if they had lost it,

1109
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: it might have been it because this was their best

1110
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: shot to get to the super Bowl. You didn't have

1111
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: the chiefs, they had the experience. I understand the owner

1112
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: wanting a change, but the way he explained it, it

1113
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: did feel a little impulsive that he made the decision

1114
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: when he saw how emotional everybody was, Like that was.

1115
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 10: A little like his job or did he just lose

1116
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 10: the wrong game? And now, like, but I think if

1117
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 10: he lost on any of the playoff games, he probably

1118
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 10: would have been canned. They didn't give it a super Bowl,

1119
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 10: he was going to be canned.

1120
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I'm just I'm so confused as to

1121
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: how you can be that impulsive for a guy that

1122
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: was his tenure was like the third longest, yeah, in

1123
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: the league. When he got fired, which is wild, and

1124
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: so you're kind of like, I get it, it was

1125
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: a really emotional time. And then in the press conferences

1126
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 3: to like throw him under the bus.

1127
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 4: That was wild, and you like, you retain.

1128
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: Brandon Bean and you allow Brandon Bean to throw him

1129
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: under the bus, and then you also now are apparently

1130
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: like interviewing Philip Rivers for your head coach.

1131
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I mean I think they've also interviewed Brian Dable,

1132
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: who has been in the conversation. We know how much

1133
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: Josh Allen loves him. He got a lot of credit

1134
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: when he was a Bill z oc. He's an offensive guy,

1135
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: he's a good mix, you know, he's a Buffalo guy,

1136
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: So like I could see that working. The Philip Rivers

1137
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: thing is that that's hilarious to me, like interesting, Like

1138
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: he's a coach who made a big comeback, big comeback

1139
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: of the NFL this season, but it all.

1140
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 3: Just points to them like not having a plan.

1141
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: No, not at all. No, this was an impulsive decision.

1142
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm just saying, like, who's going to

1143
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: be better and like is it the right call? We're

1144
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: not going to know if they don't get back to

1145
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 2: the seat, back to the playoffs next season.

1146
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 4: Definitely.

1147
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: It's so interesting to see again how Green Bay, and

1148
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: follow me for a second, how Green Bay gets to

1149
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: operate completely differently than any other team in the league

1150
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 3: because they don't have a true owner. They are owned

1151
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: by the community, and because of that, they have a

1152
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: board of directors and they have a president that reports

1153
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: to the board, and then you have the GM and

1154
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 3: the head coach that are underneath the president, and so

1155
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: essentially everybody reports to the board and the board has

1156
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: to approve things and because of that, they do not

1157
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 3: make rash decisions. And so when you look at the

1158
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: two franchises, specifically the Green Bay Packers and the Buffalo Bills,

1159
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur also had a very crushing loss to their

1160
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: biggest rival in the worst way, by the way, and

1161
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 3: Matt l the Floor retained his job because they realized

1162
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 3: they took they took a second and were like, listen,

1163
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: is this really going to get better if we replace

1164
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: mattl the Floor And they were very deliberate about the

1165
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 3: whole conversation. They were deliberate about the decision.

1166
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: Yea.

1167
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: And that is a perfect example of how most teams

1168
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: are run, where you are at the mercy of an

1169
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 3: owner and an owner's decisions and whims and how those

1170
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: can be completely impulsive and then have ripple effects for

1171
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 3: the entire organization versus a team that truly gets to

1172
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: operate more as a you know, as it very collaboratively.

1173
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: And I think that that it's just so interesting to

1174
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: watch how both of those teams handled the same problem.

1175
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: And it'll be interesting going forward. I mean, if the

1176
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: Bills get the higher right and they end up in

1177
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl next season, all is going to be forgiven,

1178
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: but for right now, it's just I couldn't help but

1179
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: notice and compare and contrast the two because they were

1180
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: facing essentially the same problem, yeah, and handled it two

1181
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 3: very different ways.

1182
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: I think it just really opened a lot of people's

1183
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: eyes to the ownership situation and who's really making the

1184
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: calls in Buffalo and how much of it has been

1185
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: on Like is this a knock on Josh Allen's legacy

1186
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: or Sean McDermott, or is it, you know, not necessarily

1187
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: an extremely stable like ownership situation.

1188
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like a lot of places are

1189
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 3: like that, and they just if they win, it gets masked.

1190
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: If they don't, there's a lot of other blame to

1191
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: go around. But it's kind of like, you know, it's

1192
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: interesting because this was the year though, that we're even

1193
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: the most stable of organizations i e. The Steelers, the Ravens,

1194
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 3: everyone they like still made those decisions, which I think

1195
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: probably also went into this where you're like, well, well,

1196
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 3: the Bisciatti's just made that decision and the Rooney has

1197
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: just made that decision that in Pittsburgh, So like, I

1198
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: guess I have to make this decision. If you're Harry Pacoula.

1199
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: But still it was just kind of one of those

1200
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 3: things where even if you're gonna make the decision based

1201
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: off one game, maybe don't tell everybody you.

1202
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 4: May Yeah, that's like keep that to yourself.

1203
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: Okay, where we have to take a quick break here,

1204
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: But when we come back, who is headed to the

1205
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 2: super Bowl?

1206
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,240
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1207
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,560
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1208
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1211
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,640
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1212
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,200
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1213
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00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,680
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1221
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: All right, carme, it's time to get to the game

1222
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: of the weekend. The NFC Championship Game, the Rams at Seahawks,

1223
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: the NFC West Showdown. This was the best division in

1224
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: the league all season. They are so perfectly matched. I mean,

1225
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: you have the top offense against the top top scoring

1226
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: offense against the top scoring defense. This might be better

1227
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: than the Super Bowl. It's definitely the game of the

1228
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: weekend on Fox. It's just a third time they've played

1229
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: each other this year, you guys, And the two games

1230
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: that they have played, yeah, I mean they were separated by.

1231
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 4: Like a point when you put them all together.

1232
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: Ram scored fifty eight points, had a total eight hundred

1233
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: and thirty yards, Seahawks scored fifty seven points, had a

1234
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: total of eight hundred and twenty nine years, and they

1235
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: each won a game.

1236
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 4: They each won a game like which.

1237
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 3: When we talked to Bridget Connon about this, I said it,

1238
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't really I have nothing to

1239
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 3: say about this game.

1240
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 4: I don't know which way it's going to go on.

1241
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: I don't else, Like, I know we're going to have

1242
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 3: to make a pick at the end of the show,

1243
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 3: but I don't want to because I think it's literally

1244
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: it could go either way. I'm totally with Bridget that

1245
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: it's going to come down to one turnover or it's

1246
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: going to come down to the last possession in I

1247
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: do absolutely I love this Seahawks defense. And I want

1248
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 3: to give credit where credit is due, because what the

1249
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 3: job that Mike McDonald has done in just two years

1250
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 3: in Seattle has not only he's not only turned the

1251
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 3: team around, but he's made them dominant. And I actually

1252
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: this this week, I filled in on six seventy the

1253
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 3: score in Chicago and we talked to Mina Chimes about

1254
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: this game, noted Seattle Seahawks fan, Yeah, Mina Chimes, And

1255
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: in talking to her, it was, you know, before this season,

1256
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: even going into this season, you know, they go get

1257
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, they get rid of There was so many

1258
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: transactions and things that we were like, what is the

1259
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: Seahawks plan here? What are they doing? There was a

1260
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: lot of doubt as to what was actually happening, because

1261
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 3: like they kind of they'd made some strides defensively in

1262
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: the first year under Mike McDonald, but you weren't exactly

1263
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 3: sure kind of just the overall direction that the franchise

1264
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: was going and how they were going to end up competing.

1265
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: And he turned it into the most complete and dominant

1266
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: team in the league at this point. And that's what's

1267
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: incredible to me. And I'm very excited to see, you know,

1268
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: how they all put it, how they put it all

1269
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: together when it matters most. And you know, if we

1270
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: could see another.

1271
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 4: This would be this.

1272
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: The Seahawks have gone to the super Bowl every year

1273
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: every time there's a new pope elected.

1274
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh no.

1275
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: I so where like the Bears were kind of trying

1276
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: to claim the Pope. I was like, well, maybe it's

1277
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 3: Seattle's thing, is a Seattle thing. It's even though the

1278
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: pope's from Chicago, which you know, you can you can

1279
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 3: you know the Chicago and hold their hat on that

1280
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: for other reasons. But yeah, it's it's very interesting. I'm

1281
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: so excited. I'm like I said, I love this defense.

1282
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: I love what Mike mcdald does, especially in the back

1283
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: end of this defense, just the way that he kind

1284
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 3: of manipulates looks, manipulates coverages. It's going to be such

1285
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: a good matchup because there's nothing that Matthew Stafford hasn't

1286
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 3: seen before, right, and especially with a division opponent that

1287
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: he is so familiar with, There's not a whole lot

1288
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: of pooling that you can do when it comes to

1289
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, like he's going to see through a lot.

1290
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean you don't try and you don't

1291
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: kind of deploy some funky looks and some dime personnels,

1292
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: like you know.

1293
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 4: Extra dbs.

1294
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm really excited to see kind of the looks that

1295
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: Seattle presents and the pressure that they're going to be

1296
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 3: able to get against a very familiar opponent that knows

1297
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 3: what they're all about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said, they are just so

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Speaker 2: perfectly matched. I think this game is going to be

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Speaker 2: better than the Super Bowl. It's the top scoring offense

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Speaker 2: against the top scoring defense. This is the experience against

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Speaker 2: a red hot team. Can the Rams win with that

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Speaker 2: playoff experience or are the Seahawks just too hot and

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Speaker 2: too locked in? Because you can never count out the Rams,

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Speaker 2: but also the Seahawks have been one of the best

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Speaker 2: teams we have seen this season. We're going to get

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Speaker 2: to it a little deeper at the end of the show,

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Speaker 2: but right now, let's check in with Martin Wise and

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Speaker 2: see what's trending.

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Speaker 7: The Pittsburgh Steelers have verbally agreed to hire the Packers

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Speaker 7: and former Cowboys head coach Mike mc karthy is their

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Speaker 7: new head guy. Dolphins promoting senior passes game coordinator Bobby

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01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 7: Slowang to offensive coordinator. The Raiders interviewed Brian Daboll, the

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Speaker 7: former Giants head coach, for their open spot, and Anthony

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01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 7: Weaver is set to have a second interview with the

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Speaker 7: Cardinals for their head coaching position. He's the former Dolphins

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Speaker 7: defensive coordinator. Offensive coordinator for the FOURIG nine Ers, Clint

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Speaker 7: Kubiaks withdrawn himself from head coach in consideration he was

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Speaker 7: being interviewed by the Raiders and the Steelers. The NBA

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Speaker 7: has postponed the game today that was supposed to take

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Speaker 7: place in Minneapolis between the Warriors and the timberwol citing

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Speaker 7: safety for the Minneapolis community. With two minutes left in

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Speaker 7: the fourth quarter, the Knicks have a three point lead

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Speaker 7: on the seventy six ers. One to five point lead

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Speaker 7: one oh four to ninety nine is og Andobi just

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Speaker 7: puts a bucket in there with a two minutes left

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Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter. Men's college basketball win in the

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Speaker 7: top twenty five from North Carolina over fourteenth three Virginia

1329
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 7: eighty five to eighty The Guardians and Jose Ramirez a

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Speaker 7: third basement, agreed to a seven year, one hundred seventy

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01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 7: five million dollar extension, and John Moran is going to

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Speaker 7: miss it least three weeks due to a sprained UCL

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Speaker 7: in his left elbow.

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Speaker 9: Ladies, back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Martin. You're listening to Fox Football Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 2: Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. I'm excited for our

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Speaker 2: next guest that is coming up Shape producer Shay.

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Speaker 4: How we doing here? We getting it? We autumn? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: all right, let's bring them in.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest, NFL dot COM's Nick Shook.

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Speaker 4: Buddy, we miss you. Thanks for joining the show man.

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Speaker 5: It's been a while.

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Speaker 11: How are you, ladies?

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Speaker 4: It was like Super Bowl.

1345
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Speaker 2: I feel like Super Bowls like our time all of

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Speaker 2: us to come together, which I can't wait for in

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks here, But let's start with the

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Speaker 2: breaking news today. Mike McCarthy new head coach of the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this fit? What's your reaction?

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Speaker 5: Ah?

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Speaker 9: You know, look, if you look at the Steelers and

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Speaker 9: you look at their history and the fact that they've

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Speaker 9: only had three.

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Speaker 5: Coaches since nineteen sixty nine.

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Speaker 9: I worry that they are going to have more, you know,

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Speaker 9: one coach over the next eighteen years. And then you're

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Speaker 9: on Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he's done plenty of postive things and succeeded in

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Speaker 11: his career, but the way that his Cowboys tenure ended,

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Speaker 11: the way that his Packers tenure ended, I think he

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Speaker 11: got more out of that Cowboys team than I expected,

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Speaker 11: especially offensively.

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Speaker 9: But I just I don't know if this is the

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Speaker 9: right situation for him and the and the Steelers, considering

1365
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 9: they have no direction at quarterback. Maybe that's the reason

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Speaker 9: they hire a guy like McCarthy to bring some stability

1367
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Speaker 9: when they know that roster wise they're going to be

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Speaker 9: undergoing some changes.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: And it felt like as soon as it was first

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Speaker 9: kind of like floated out there a week ago or so,

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Speaker 9: you know, the guys from Pittsburgh and this and that,

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Speaker 9: I was like, ah, man, it's that's that's a little

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Speaker 9: too on the notes for me.

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Speaker 5: But they didn't, so we'll see how long it last.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I called it boring. Nick. It was like this

1377
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Speaker 3: was this was boring. It's just like it's like a face.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's safe.

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Speaker 3: It's safe as soon. Yeah, and you're right as soon as.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who it was that did that AI

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Speaker 3: graphic of Mike McCarthy with the yingling beer in.

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Speaker 4: The bar around, I was like, I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 3: To me, Oh yeah, I will know. It was like

1384
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: floating around a week ago or so, and I was

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Speaker 3: just like, O, this is going to happen, Isn't it

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 3: all right? I mean like, it's fine, It's all fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm very interested though, to see Nick, you're in Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: you're a Browns.

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Speaker 5: Fan, you can kind of say that.

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Speaker 2: I suppose.

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Speaker 3: What what what? First of all, I need to know

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Speaker 3: what your take is on this alleged homework that they're

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Speaker 3: having guys fill out. Second of all, you have guys

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Speaker 3: that are actively taking themselves out of the running for

1395
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Speaker 3: that head coaching job. What what do you think is

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Speaker 3: going to happen there?

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Speaker 9: I'm not surprised at all if they're making people do

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Speaker 9: homework that this is part of the interview process.

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Speaker 5: This is I mean I did.

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Speaker 9: I did work in that building for about a year,

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01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 9: so it was under different management for the most part,

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Speaker 9: different front office. That was the John Dorsey Freddy Kitchens

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Speaker 9: here but yeah, I'm not at all surprised that this

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Speaker 9: is the way they go about doing business. And I

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Speaker 9: can also completely understand why some coaches remove themselves from

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Speaker 9: this process when they're thinking, why should I have to

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Speaker 9: do this?

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Speaker 5: What is this?

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Speaker 9: This is not a thesis. I'm going for a head

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Speaker 9: coaching job, So I understand.

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Speaker 5: I get all, I'm not a high school kid.

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Speaker 3: I'm not like, I'm in no danger of like using

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Speaker 3: chat GPT to like.

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Speaker 9: School. You really think John Harbaugh is going to leave

1415
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Speaker 9: an interview with them, which obviously that wasn't part of

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 9: the process, but like he's gonna leave an interview with

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Speaker 9: them and be like, oh, in order to get this

1418
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Speaker 9: second interview me John Harbaugh longest tenured coach in the

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Speaker 9: NFL before I was dismissed by the Ravens, I have

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Speaker 9: to go right on essay for the Browns, the team

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Speaker 9: that I have consistently beaten over the last So of

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Speaker 9: course you're going to eliminate those guys from consideration. But

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Speaker 9: I also think that that's like part of, you know,

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Speaker 9: their strategy in kind of trying to identify a younger

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Speaker 9: coach anyway. I mean, if you think about Stefansi. They

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Speaker 9: actually toyed with the idea of hiring Stefanski twice before

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Speaker 9: they did hire him. That was the US They went

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Speaker 9: to Freddie Kitchens instead, And I think that they're not

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Speaker 9: going to try to find something similar with an offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 9: a young guy, whether it's Schieldhouse or Yudinsky, and the

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Speaker 9: fallback the default is Jim Schwartz is the head coach

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Speaker 9: if we can't get either of them. And I tried

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Speaker 9: to tell people this in Cleveland a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 9: because they're like, well, you know, you've got to keep

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Speaker 9: Jim Schwartz, and I was like, if it's that important

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Speaker 9: to keep him above all, he's going to be your

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Speaker 9: head coach by default, that's just what's.

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Speaker 5: Going to happen.

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Speaker 9: And now that that's kind of becoming more clear in

1440
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 9: the picture, everyone's kind of accepting it or bracing for it.

1441
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 9: And ultimately what we're going to get is you avoid

1442
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 9: the Mike Petton higher, the oh, this is the eighth

1443
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 9: guy on the list, and this is who we happen

1444
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 9: to take. You avoid the Rob Shadzinky Higher, and you

1445
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 9: go with that up and coming play caller and hope

1446
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Speaker 9: for the best because I hate to say it, but

1447
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Speaker 9: that job's kind of radioactive until they figure out quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the first game tomorrow. The biggest

1449
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Speaker 2: headline ahead of the AFC Championship game is that bo

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Speaker 2: Nix is out.

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Speaker 4: Jared Sitamentu is in. I think this is a big deal. CARMEI.

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Speaker 2: She kind of thinks like the defense is going to

1453
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: be okay, the O line's going to protect. How big

1454
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: of an impact do you think this quarterback switch will

1455
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Speaker 2: actually have.

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Speaker 9: I think Carmen is probably on the same page as

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01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 9: me and both seeing a football sticko and also somebody

1458
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Speaker 9: who believes that this is going to be closer than

1459
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 9: people realize, because Baron did them was the best player

1460
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Speaker 9: in the NFL in the twenty twenty five preseason, and

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Speaker 9: those nick knows who watch the preseason understand that. And

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Speaker 9: I think he'll actually do just fine. I think Carmon's run.

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Speaker 9: I think that the offensive line is largely going to

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Speaker 9: hold up. I mean it's a tough matchup for sure,

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Speaker 9: and I think that defense is going to create about

1466
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Speaker 9: as many turnovers. It's same ballpark as the Texans did.

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Speaker 5: Turnovers.

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Speaker 9: There are a very random element in football that if

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Speaker 9: I had to bank on the defense mirroring what the

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Speaker 9: Texans just did to them, it would be Denvers with

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Speaker 9: the you know, the league leading sacks and the way

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Speaker 9: that they generate pressure with a number of different guys,

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Speaker 9: but Nick Beonino being.

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Speaker 5: The first on that list.

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Speaker 9: So I think it's going to be a closer game

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Speaker 9: than people expect.

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Speaker 5: This is no walk in the park for the Patriots.

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Speaker 9: Who, by the way, are on the road. They're going

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Speaker 9: to the milelighte city, They're going to be playing with altitude.

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Speaker 9: These are all knowing that people seem to overlook, we

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Speaker 9: are going to have a good game there. I encourage

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Speaker 9: people and am not being a company man here. I'm

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Speaker 9: telling you this is going to be a good game

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Speaker 9: in Denver. And it doesn't matter that bo Nix is

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Speaker 9: out because I think that the combined matchup is going

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Speaker 9: to create a great product.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Nick and I are friends.

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01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I get it.

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Speaker 2: That was like the biggest Like I got my homies back,

1490
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Speaker 2: and let me tell you why.

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Speaker 3: I literally Nick, I said the exact same things verbatim

1492
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Speaker 3: as with the altitude and all I said all of that,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, they're gonna be on the road and listen.

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Speaker 3: I'm a huge believer in the Patriots. I'm a huge

1495
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 3: believer in Drake May. You and I have talked at

1496
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 3: length about Drake May, even like going back to his

1497
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: draft year and how much we both loved him. Does

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Speaker 3: who gets your MVP boat vote this year?

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Speaker 9: Oh god, this is I'm so torn over this because

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Speaker 9: I know I was. I had Stafford locked it up

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Speaker 9: in like weeks fifteen, and then he held it struggle

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 9: filled few final few games, and he.

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Speaker 8: Had that that game in Atlanta which has to be

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Speaker 8: on national TV.

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Speaker 9: And it was like the deck press backplunker in Buffalo

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Speaker 9: two years ago in December, and I'm just like, come on,

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Speaker 9: don't do this to me. Now, when you have the

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Speaker 9: greatest season of your career, you're the clear MVP to me.

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Speaker 9: And then there's Drake May playing, you know, kind of

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Speaker 9: a soft schedule but also posting really high completion percentages

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Speaker 9: and taking shots downfield in the staff seeing a breakout.

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Speaker 3: Stars while under pressure too, by the way, while under

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01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 3: more pressure than Matthew Stafford had to face.

1514
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, and and that offensive line is not break

1515
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 9: in New England. It's been rebuilt kind of. I don't know, refashioned.

1516
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 9: I wouldn't even call it rebuilt.

1517
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 3: But it's not there.

1518
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not there yet.

1519
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 9: No so, but I have a really hard time giving

1520
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 9: it to a second year quarterback not not become a

1521
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 9: lack of ten year.

1522
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 3: But it's supposed to be a season award. It's supposed

1523
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: to be a season award. One regular season. That's what

1524
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 3: you're supposed to go off of.

1525
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 9: I get it, though, it's gonna be the conversation. I

1526
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 9: wanted to be Stafford. I wanted to be Stafford, but

1527
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 9: it's going to be made and that's not an intinct

1528
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 9: different I.

1529
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,480
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, oh, that's funny.

1530
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, speaking of Stafford, the Rams and Seahawks Part three. Now,

1531
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: we've had some epic games this season from these two

1532
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: NFC West rivals. What are your expectations for this third

1533
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: and final installment of the season.

1534
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 9: You know, it's funny because history points us in a

1535
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 9: number of different directions. There's I can't think about it

1536
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 9: on the top of my head because I don't have

1537
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 9: the sheet in front of it. But I was going

1538
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 9: through our research notes this week and there was you know,

1539
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 9: there's been a few instances in which games like a

1540
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 9: third game between two division opponents has played in the

1541
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 9: playoffs in which the combined scoring margin.

1542
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 5: Was one or less points.

1543
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 9: And each of those two times that happened because over

1544
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 9: the last fifteen to twenty years, the winner won by

1545
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 9: double digits. And I hate to think that that is

1546
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 9: going to happen. But there's some other numbers in Matthew

1547
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 9: Stafford's history. He's zero and three on the road against

1548
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 9: the number one scoring defense.

1549
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 5: I believe it's in the postseason as well. In his career.

1550
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 9: There's just some numbers that point towards Seattle winning. And

1551
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 9: yet I want to believe that the familiarity and the

1552
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 9: expertise of Sean mczay is going to produce another close game.

1553
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 9: The Rams controlled this game the last.

1554
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 5: Time they played in Seattle. I mean, it involved in

1555
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:49,959
Speaker 5: Donald early mistakes.

1556
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 9: It also required Donald to pick himself up off the

1557
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 9: mat and leave them on a comeback and some overtime

1558
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 9: chitganery that ended up, you know, producing one of the

1559
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 9: weirdest two point.

1560
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 5: Conversions you're ever going to see. All that good stuff,

1561
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 5: right yeah.

1562
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 9: So, and that was just for the Seahawks to win

1563
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 9: at home. But since then they's kind of headed in

1564
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 9: different directions. So I have a really hard time deciding

1565
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 9: this one. I want to believe that it's going to

1566
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 9: be close, just because these are the two best teams

1567
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 9: in the NFL and in my opinion, and Super well yeah,

1568
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 9: and these are two great young minds, two of the

1569
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 9: four youngest head coaches currently in the NFL right now

1570
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 9: and with completely different track records to this point. Sean

1571
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 9: McVay is like in his sixteenth playoff game, like McDonald's

1572
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 9: in number two and number one looks lack.

1573
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 5: So is experience matter?

1574
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 9: Does hot streaks matter? Just familiarity matter? I wanted to

1575
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 9: be close. I would love another twenty thirteen NFC title

1576
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 9: games that we got between the Niners and the Seahawks.

1577
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 5: That is, the Rams and the Seahawks. Give me that,

1578
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 5: all right?

1579
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 3: I want to talk actually a little bit. Who we

1580
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 3: haven't talked about this yet with the Rams, but how

1581
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 3: all season long, right, you talked about how Sean McVay

1582
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 3: is this offensive taste maker and he is propelling the

1583
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 3: offensive game forward. And you saw what he was doing

1584
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 3: with the tight ends this year, deployment of thirteen personnel

1585
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 3: at a thirty point five percent rate and all this

1586
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 3: other crazy stuff, and now in the postseason we've seen

1587
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 3: him kind of do it about face and completely rework

1588
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: what we were expecting from this Rams offense. I watched

1589
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 3: him in Chicago, I think nine total offensive snaps with

1590
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 3: three tight ends on the field, and I was like, wait,

1591
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 3: what this isn't This isn't the offense we were promised.

1592
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 3: It was, in fact, Ben Johnson who deployed multiple tight

1593
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 3: end sets more than Sean McVay actually did so, I

1594
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 3: what what are we expecting? What do you think is

1595
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 3: in Sean mcvay's head. Is it just a matter of

1596
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 3: zigging because he's been zagging all season and he's trying

1597
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 3: to catch people off guard? Is does that come into

1598
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: play when you're playing such a familiar opponent. What do

1599
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 3: we expect from this Rams offense?

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01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 9: I think there's a little bit of that element there

1601
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 9: where you're trying to zig when everybody expects you to zag.

1602
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 9: And that's fine because you want to be a little

1603
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 9: unpredictable with so much of your tape.

1604
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,520
Speaker 5: Has been very consistent, especially.

1605
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 9: From one week to the next, Like it was so

1606
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 9: fitting that their game when he touchdown is caught by

1607
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 9: a tight end in Carolina Wildcard weekend like that that

1608
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 9: just matched what they were doing. But I also kind

1609
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 9: of want to take you back to what was that.

1610
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 9: I think Super Bowl fifty two fifty three Rams Patriots,

1611
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 9: in which the Rams sport of total three points in

1612
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 9: the day admitted afterwards he over compared and kind of

1613
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 9: ground himself into the dirt by just watching too much tape.

1614
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: And I think that he's kind of somewhere in between.

1615
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 9: The two right now, and so I'll point to that.

1616
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 3: Like fighting the Green Goblin mask on his shoulder to

1617
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: like over prepare where he knows that doesn't work. He's like,

1618
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but I want to it's.

1619
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 9: Just laughing at him over his shoulder, like shot Nickbay.

1620
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

1621
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 9: So I think that if you look at the Bears

1622
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 9: game that dead you were at Farming last weekend, it

1623
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 9: was a great example of him kind of smacking himself

1624
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 9: in the face a little splash of cold water. Get

1625
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 9: back to it by the second half. Really the fourth quarter,

1626
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 9: it's freezing cold, it's snowing, Your quarterback is dealing with

1627
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 9: a finger injury. His accuracy is awful.

1628
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 5: To come out of half time. I think he had

1629
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 5: pen straight in completions.

1630
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 4: Or something, but bigger bodies on the field, Sean.

1631
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 9: And he didn't run the ball until the fourth quarter. Yes, Wow,

1632
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, it put together a touchdown drive

1633
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 9: that gabie a lead and obviously we ended up in

1634
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 9: overtime in that game. But it's like he needed that

1635
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 9: moment to be like, oh, let me get back to

1636
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 9: what I do. And they've kind of been going through

1637
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 9: this even I think it was Week eighteen they were

1638
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 9: playing against Arizona and Arizona took a lead on them

1639
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 9: in the second half, and then he kind of he

1640
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 9: engineered one really good drive, really impressive drive where it

1641
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 9: felt like he finally got a step ahead of the defense,

1642
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 9: which I again saw in the fourth quarter in Chicago,

1643
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 9: where finally got a step ahead of Dennis Allen, who

1644
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 9: had a great game plan, you know, bringing pressure off.

1645
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 5: The edge of.

1646
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: What out of him. Yep.

1647
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 5: Yes, And it was.

1648
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 9: The same situation against Arizona and at the end of

1649
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 9: the regular season where they put together a long, methodical,

1650
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 9: well engineered, well directed drive and you could see McVay

1651
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 9: all fired up on the sideline. He had the same

1652
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 9: reaction on Sunday night in Chicago, and I'm just thinking,

1653
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 9: why can't you, Why do you have to do this

1654
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 9: with your team? And at that point against Arizona, I

1655
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 9: thought he was trying to wake them up, like, hey,

1656
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 9: remember who you are? Against Chicago, it felt like he

1657
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 9: was trying to wake him remember who I am. He

1658
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 9: even admitted afterwards, I believe that Dennis Awen had a

1659
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 9: great game plan for them, that he was basically a

1660
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 9: step ahead of them for most of that game.

1661
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 5: So you gotta avoid that. In Seattle, you just gotta

1662
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 5: avoid doing that. I think they will because they know

1663
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 5: each other a little bit better.

1664
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 4: It's going to be so good.

1665
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 3: Nick.

1666
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 4: We appreciate you. Thank you so much for join us.

1667
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 4: Are we going to see you in SF for Super Bowl?

1668
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 9: Oh?

1669
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 3: You know it out there, Let's go, hotel bar, drinks

1670
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: on Dick, Let's go, let's go.

1671
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 4: Thank you, Nick, I know it.

1672
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 5: Thank I love you.

1673
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 4: All right, We're going to take a quick break here.

1674
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 4: When we come back. We got our game picks. Seen

1675
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:33,479
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1676
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,000
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1678
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1679
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1680
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday.

1681
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 2: I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally Karmi. We've been

1682
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,919
Speaker 2: talking about it all show. Almost time for our playoff

1683
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: weekend pick.

1684
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm not looking for this. I honestly like the fact

1685
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 3: that it's a hot take that I think that the

1686
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 3: Patriots Broncos game is going to be a game I

1687
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: feel like makes it even more like I don't know.

1688
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 3: I just I don't want to make these decisions, like

1689
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 3: I legitimately have no idea who's going to win these games,

1690
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: which I love, by the way, I love the parity

1691
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: is that like this, we're going to get a different

1692
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 3: matchup than we've seen in recent years, and that's always fun.

1693
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 3: Yes we are, and there's gonna be no shortage of

1694
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 3: really fun storylines no matter who ends up in the

1695
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 3: super Bowl. But I just I don't have an inkling

1696
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 3: either way, to be quite honest. Okay, but I'll make

1697
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 3: I'll make a pick. I'll make picks because I have to.

1698
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying I'm not confident.

1699
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's get to it.

1700
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,560
Speaker 2: You want to lead us through the two games?

1701
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 12: Yeah, So here we go. We got the morning slate

1702
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 12: with the Broncos and the Patriots. Are you guys ready

1703
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 12: for this? Yeah, they're coming in at minus three and

1704
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 12: a half. It's going to be the Patriots out of

1705
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 12: the favorites.

1706
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's changed.

1707
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 12: So changed changed looking at Yeah, there.

1708
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 2: Are four and a half my favorites the other day.

1709
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely think both these teams are going

1710
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: to have to play the best game of their season

1711
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: to win, even after losing Bonnix, because there's two things

1712
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: that can happen here. Teams can rise to the challenge

1713
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: and kind of use that as motivation to be better

1714
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: or like I like, which I think it's going to

1715
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 2: lean a little more towards this way. I think it's

1716
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 2: going to be a bigger deal in not having your

1717
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: quarterback that you've had all year and having a guy

1718
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 2: who hasn't played a meaningful football game in.

1719
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 4: Over two years and now he's in the A Championship.

1720
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 3: The preseason, the preseason differ. How dare you.

1721
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 4: You're not playing against? How dare you team starters?

1722
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 3: I mean?

1723
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: But then again, like the Broncos are undefeated at home

1724
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 2: during the playoffs against the Patriots, like all time I

1725
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: just think the Patriots and Mike Rabel feel like they're

1726
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: going to come in and get it done.

1727
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to go with the Patriots.

1728
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 3: I think I'm also still going to go with the Patriots.

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01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 3: But again, I am going to say this is going

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01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 3: to be a very close game. And I because listen,

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01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 3: I love what Mike Babel has done. He was born

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01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 3: to be the coach of the New England Patriots after playing,

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01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 3: you know, as a Patriot, and he just embodies everything

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01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 3: you want that team to be. I have loved Drake

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01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 3: May since he came out and in the draft, I

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01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 3: thought that, you know, he My very unscientific analysis of

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01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 3: why I thought Drake May would be successful is because

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01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 3: he's got I believe, four older brothers that all what

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01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 3: d one. And I'm like, he's the youngest, and the

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01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 3: youngest is always the best. When you were when you

1741
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 3: were growing up trying to keep up with your older brothers,

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 3: you inevitably become better and faster and stronger because you're

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01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 3: not keeping up with the people in your grade. You're

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: keeping up with the people you're you're older. You know,

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01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 3: older siblings. So I always think that the younger one

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01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 3: is going to do well and sure enough. I mean

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01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 3: he's great. So I am a big believer in the

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01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 3: Patriots in the long term, especially I'm a big believer

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 3: in this Broncos defense that they can make this a game,

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01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 3: especially having the home field advantage. And I know Denver

1751
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 3: gets rowdy, so I think it's gonna be very close,

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01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna give it to the Patriots.

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01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, both on Patriots, and you were right.

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01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,759
Speaker 12: The line did open up four and a half favorites

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01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 12: for these for the Patriots.

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01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 3: And then which is wild?

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01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 9: Is the road?

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01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 12: I know, right, it is kind of wild, but if

1759
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 12: you want to hit it, I mean, hey, it's one

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 12: minus one fifteen for minus three and a half. But

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01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 12: for the next game, the Seahawks are taking on the

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01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 12: Rams at three point thirty pm on Big Fox. The

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01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 12: Seahawks actually came in at minus one and a half,

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01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 12: but they're coming in at minus two and a half.

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01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: Now what you guys got, I'm I'm gonna go Seahawks.

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01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 3: I think they're the most complete team. They get to

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01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: play at home. These two teams are very, very familiar

1768
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 3: with each other. They are going to have a great plan.

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01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 3: I think there's something to be said for the way

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01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 3: that Sean McVay outthinks himself sometimes, and I also, more

1771
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 3: than anything, defense wins championships. There's a reason that we

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01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: say that and that between these despite the fact that

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01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 3: the Rams do have a good defense, they're not the

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01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 3: Seahawks defense. And I'm very, very excited to see what

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01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald has in store to kind of complete and

1776
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 3: round out this turnaround in Seattle.

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: No, I mean this is the best possible matchup, top

1779
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 2: scoring offense against top scoring defense. It's experienced for some

1780
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 2: red hot teams. I'm going with the Rams. I think

1781
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 2: the Rams bring the experience. Matthew Stafford, Sean McVay. It

1782
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: is going to be the game of the weekend, possibly

1783
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: like Super Bowl esque. I'm so excited for this great

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01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: show today, Carmie, thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon

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01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 2: with us.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you next week, same time, same place,