Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club, yeaps
Speaker 1: the world no dangerous want to show to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Charlemagne and God Angelie ye Envy had to step out,
Speaker 1: but we got a special guest in the building. Man.
Speaker 1: His album came out in June. It's called More Black Superheroes,
Speaker 1: West Side Bookies. I finally here, man, I've been wanting
Speaker 1: to come here forever. What it's also a scary place?
Speaker 1: Why is everybody scared of you? But no reason? But
Speaker 1: it feels like you got better. I feel like appreciate.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I'm glad I came during these times. Young.
Speaker 1: How old you? I just turned thirty three? Oh okay,
Speaker 1: we got the whole thirteen year old, so I really
Speaker 1: feel seventy. I ain't gonna lie, so damn you gotta be.
Speaker 1: I got a fourteen You got a teenager. It's the
Speaker 1: most irritating age in the world. Girl a boy? Your boy?
Speaker 1: Oh see, I got a little girl. I think girls
Speaker 1: are worse when now that seems scary. Boys are just
Speaker 1: irritating because it's like a reflection on myself. So it's
Speaker 1: like I'll be wanting to fire him up and he
Speaker 1: taller to me right now too, So I gotta like
Speaker 1: work out a little bit. He taller in you what
Speaker 1: his mom must be tall? No, I don't know how
Speaker 1: he ended up taller than me. He just only like
Speaker 1: this much tall to me right now. Ok. He's still
Speaker 1: growing exactly, and he's a basketball player. So you aren't
Speaker 1: you smelling like the finest of weed? I talked a
Speaker 1: lot of weed. That's what they were saying on the
Speaker 1: airport when I got there too. That and that type
Speaker 1: of stuff irritate me. When you're just walking back, somebody
Speaker 1: smell like weed? Did you fly? You bought your own
Speaker 1: in Yeah? Okay, get on the plane. Yeah, that's because CALLI.
Speaker 1: And it's legal in New York, so that makes sense.
Speaker 1: You feel me brought me a little ounce. Well, you
Speaker 1: don't like New York weed? You just it's too expensive.
Speaker 1: Y'all irritate me with y'all weed because we don't have
Speaker 1: the dispensaries and access I think yet, all right, I
Speaker 1: respect it. I don't gotta deal with that. You know,
Speaker 1: they got a mad Jersey. Jersey got the dispensonies. If
Speaker 1: you got a medicinal card, Callie, they've been doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't need a card I just called a homie. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Now, let's since you do
Speaker 1: have a sad let's talk about more black superheroes. The
Speaker 1: album that you have out, um, you know, it came
Speaker 1: out a couple of months ago, right going to Summer
Speaker 1: Julie two months ago. It was fast. Yeah that's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So how is the process making this album? I know
Speaker 1: you had said previously that you went to therapy for
Speaker 1: like three years and it made it a little difficult
Speaker 1: to write at certain points. Yeah, it was tough, um,
Speaker 1: just because the accountability factor that came with therapy. Um,
Speaker 1: usually because I had just got out of relationship. It
Speaker 1: was like my first like healthy relationship. I feel like
Speaker 1: I was with your like three years. All my other
Speaker 1: relationships I feel like was based off trauma bonding, but
Speaker 1: this was like my first time I had like a
Speaker 1: healthy relationship. It felt like. So when I lost her,
Speaker 1: I was still happy because I was like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to make a fire album because like I can make
Speaker 1: a heart I can make a heartbreak album. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Then I'm in therapy and my therapist
Speaker 1: making me address stuff and make me hold myself accountable,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't. I feel like I couldn't approach music
Speaker 1: the same. It was hard to make certain songs, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it took a while to even figure out what I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about. Now, when you talk about your
Speaker 1: previous relationships before that, what do you mean by trauma bonding?
Speaker 1: Like what was like just my baby, my baby, mama. Um.
Speaker 1: I think we were just too hurt people that this
Speaker 1: was fighting just so we can make up. The making
Speaker 1: up part was the best part for me, because like
Speaker 1: it's makeup sex, you know what I'm saying, it's passion.
Speaker 1: Some people felt like fighting me you really care too,
Speaker 1: like when you guys argue passionately. And I've had people
Speaker 1: tell me like, if you didn't feel like you want
Speaker 1: to kill the person that you're Yeah, and that's I
Speaker 1: hear that a lot in my community too. And I
Speaker 1: get it though, because you know, haydon Love, they kind
Speaker 1: of live in the same house, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in that vibe no more because trauma bonding is so real,
Speaker 1: and we have trauma bonds, not even just with the
Speaker 1: opposite sex. Growing up in the hood, you start hustling,
Speaker 1: or you in a gang or whatever. Sometimes a lot
Speaker 1: of that is trauma bonding to you all bonding over
Speaker 1: the wrong trauma bond with the homies. Yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I never thought about that right now, spokes, we didn't
Speaker 1: go do a drive ba. The most trauma bonding is,
Speaker 1: I guess it's with my homies. So yeah. On L
Speaker 1: L SAMG too, Man, you say one of the greatest
Speaker 1: lines I've ever heard in reference to folks trying to
Speaker 1: heal what You don't say it, but the woman on
Speaker 1: the song says it. She said that they ain't know
Speaker 1: where you're still a bitch ass nigga and you being therapy. Yo.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that yesterday. Um, how like
Speaker 1: when I mess up now, I feel like it's heavier
Speaker 1: to the people around me because they just expect me
Speaker 1: to be perfect because I've been I've been bragging about therapy.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, Nigga, your therapy not working for him,
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, growing is for everything. And that's
Speaker 1: the frustrating part because sometimes my growing gets staggnant. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I take leaps forward, sometimes I backslide, and that's all
Speaker 1: the process of it. At least, I just think Therapyti's
Speaker 1: made me more aware of it. She gave me the tools.
Speaker 1: My therapist gave me the tools. But it's still a
Speaker 1: once a week thing. I don't I can't afford therapy
Speaker 1: every day, so you know what I'm saying, I go
Speaker 1: once a week too. And that's the beauty of therapy
Speaker 1: as well, right. It teaches you don't have to be perfect.
Speaker 1: Exactly what made you decide to go? I was crying
Speaker 1: over my ex um, I thought I just needed therapy. Also,
Speaker 1: shout out to my management company, Love Renaissance. Um Summer
Speaker 1: first got therapy. They got therapy for her as like welcome,
Speaker 1: that's my label made or whatever whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it. But um, she got therapy first because she
Speaker 1: was going through a lightning with the media, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So my management got hurt therapists and
Speaker 1: they thought it would be a good idea if they
Speaker 1: got all the artists therapists. So what's the of Love Rendissance?
Speaker 1: Everybody would be sign they got all the artists therapy.
Speaker 1: Even they have therapy and we do group therapy. They
Speaker 1: do group therapy as like the laborhood. Amazing everybody need
Speaker 1: to sign the first Yeah, you know in the in
Speaker 1: the nigga world, can I say nigga R yes? And
Speaker 1: in the nigga world it looked at, it's looked at
Speaker 1: it's crazy, Like that's the stigma around it, Like what
Speaker 1: do I need to go talk to somebody I don't
Speaker 1: know for and when I could just talk to the
Speaker 1: homies or go smoke or do something like that. So
Speaker 1: more trauma exactly. And even some days I still lie
Speaker 1: to my therapist some days, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Some days I like, I'm busy today because you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's irritating growing sometimes it's uncomfortable, but
Speaker 1: I know that's where the girls come. But your first session,
Speaker 1: she tried to just pull up on me in the studio, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just sit around and be a homie, which
Speaker 1: ILL appreciate, but I still like saw through it. I
Speaker 1: knew what she was doing. So there was a lot
Speaker 1: of resistance at first. I don't think we got a
Speaker 1: breakthrough to like maybe after the first three months, did
Speaker 1: you pass your therapist to blunt or try to no.
Speaker 1: After that first time in person, it was all zoom okay,
Speaker 1: So I couldn't pass through the bunt through the computer.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to be in that last relationship
Speaker 1: that had you so upset. Why did you guys break up? Um,
Speaker 1: it was a lot. I don't think I was a
Speaker 1: great boyfriend at the time. I don't like like bragging
Speaker 1: about the zodiac stuff. But I'm a Virgo and they
Speaker 1: say we expect perfection out every Yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I just had a party
Speaker 1: two nights ago. You think, so sometimes we manipulative. It's
Speaker 1: crazy because we feel like we're so smart and we
Speaker 1: try to use it to manipulate people. But um, I
Speaker 1: think on my last relationship, uh, tourists, Okay, Um exactly.
Speaker 1: She artists as well, though, And I think my career
Speaker 1: got so consuming for her. Not that I told told,
Speaker 1: like made her be consumed by me. I just think
Speaker 1: it just happened and she started to resent me and
Speaker 1: feel like she couldn't be the artist she wanted to be.
Speaker 1: Um And yeah, so I think we had an argument
Speaker 1: over the trash and she was like, we're breaking up,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, she being checked out, she
Speaker 1: being wanted to get away, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I respect it. She dated one of the homies
Speaker 1: now and it's irritating, but wow, tough seeing that around
Speaker 1: the city. But that's still your homie. Though now I
Speaker 1: ain't talked to him. He act like I did something
Speaker 1: wrong to him, but to him, and you got all
Speaker 1: these thoughts in your head. You're probably you've probably been
Speaker 1: messing around exactly and that's the tough part. But oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's awful, except you're not making this better.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Setting was not in my control is the
Speaker 1: stuff I'm learning to deal with because that's always hard.
Speaker 1: I feel like I always got to control the situation.
Speaker 1: So what accountability did you take because I know you
Speaker 1: said it's about accountability too, Um, just not speaking up
Speaker 1: on stuff I want it just like instead of me
Speaker 1: just holding so much stuff in and like putting so
Speaker 1: much pressure on her, I could have just spoke on it.
Speaker 1: We could have got through it. Um. And I think
Speaker 1: supporting her more and like I was making this thing
Speaker 1: like this because I was paying for stuff, I was
Speaker 1: being a great boyfriend, like, and I know it was
Speaker 1: more than that. I needed to support her and the
Speaker 1: stuff she cared about and really paid attention, pay attention
Speaker 1: to the details, and I don't think I was doing that.
Speaker 1: So it's the song Nachalt about that relationship where you
Speaker 1: just act like I'm not calling you you nachalt. It's
Speaker 1: really more so about me moving around acting like a
Speaker 1: fucking niggeting being confused on why she treated me like
Speaker 1: a fuck nigga. You know what I'm saying. It's just
Speaker 1: like me bragging about how I'm going to take her piece,
Speaker 1: and like why are you not answering the phone? Or
Speaker 1: just me being irritated by girls who posts on Instagram
Speaker 1: and don't text me back because I literally hate that.
Speaker 1: But now you are being a thought for your birthday?
Speaker 1: What is being a thought to you? I thought I
Speaker 1: could be Bill belling me like how to be a
Speaker 1: player and like invite all my show these to one place,
Speaker 1: and it just didn't not work out. And I thought
Speaker 1: I was being so clean. It's not like I was
Speaker 1: hugging up on anybody. But I guess girls just could
Speaker 1: read through stuff. Yeah, especially if they think they're dating you,
Speaker 1: and then and you get invited, you think you the
Speaker 1: one like invited me to his birthday party, so it's special.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I'm even though I'll be honest
Speaker 1: with these girls. I think if I still move a
Speaker 1: certain way, I still think I'm the bad person because
Speaker 1: I'll be telling them I'm not ready to be in
Speaker 1: a relationship. But me knowing that they're not really understanding
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and still choosing to move forward with them,
Speaker 1: I'm still in the wrong. So I invited all them there,
Speaker 1: and then the next day I got text like you're
Speaker 1: too old to be moving like this, Like they're right
Speaker 1: back to the therapy stuff, Like therapy is not doing
Speaker 1: nothing for you. You look lame. I'm losing all the
Speaker 1: spec for you. It ain't a way. You're still a
Speaker 1: bit chass nicky. We get it. Hey, question, you talked
Speaker 1: about your first breakthrough in therapy, right, do you shool
Speaker 1: like sharing what that was? I'll tell you if you
Speaker 1: tell me. Yeah, it was about my mom. It was
Speaker 1: either about my mom or my dad. I know. Lately,
Speaker 1: I realized I got a lot of frustration towards my
Speaker 1: mom just because I feel like she never gave me
Speaker 1: a space to be emotional. Your mom, while I hear
Speaker 1: that with dad's a lot. I feel like, yeah, my
Speaker 1: dad wasn't a round. I think my mom had just
Speaker 1: raised me to be tough because she didn't want me
Speaker 1: to go out in the world and get punk, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, which I get, but I think
Speaker 1: it should have been a balance because now when I
Speaker 1: get older and somebody tell me they loved me or
Speaker 1: want to have emotional conversations, I shut down. It's like
Speaker 1: weird to me. I don't like when people get to
Speaker 1: touchy philly, I don't like when people give me compliments all.
Speaker 1: It all makes me glitch out. And I spoke about
Speaker 1: it in an interview before I talked to my mom
Speaker 1: about it, and then she saw it and you know,
Speaker 1: she got frustrated. But I'm still glad I did it
Speaker 1: because then we had the conversation about it after. But
Speaker 1: that breakthrough happened me understanding, like, oh, I moved these
Speaker 1: ways in these relationships because this relationship in my past
Speaker 1: with my mom. So but did she say, did that
Speaker 1: change things for you guys? Um? She said sorry and
Speaker 1: that we're gonna work on it. Um, But it's still hard.
Speaker 1: My brains so conditioned now, and I'm still trying to
Speaker 1: work on that. Like I said, I'm aware of it,
Speaker 1: but that don't necessarily mean the change gonna happen immediately.
Speaker 1: So yeah, my first breakthrough was realizing that I had
Speaker 1: daddy issues, you know what I mean. And you addressed
Speaker 1: that on Anthony but in Wars and how difficult was
Speaker 1: it to confront that topic? Ah? Man, that one is tough,
Speaker 1: and that one is because I've been saying it don't
Speaker 1: bother me forever. I've been like my daddy, my daddy
Speaker 1: ain't been in my life. What I got this far
Speaker 1: without him? I don't need them. But then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's really affecting me, Like it's a my abandonment issues
Speaker 1: and everything behind it. It's like, I gotta have a
Speaker 1: conversation with my dad now, I gotta figure out how
Speaker 1: to let this hate go that I didn't even know
Speaker 1: I had, like this unaddressed trauma, so irritating. So what
Speaker 1: was easier writing that song? I actually, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess you never had to convert with so writing the
Speaker 1: song was easier. And It's like I've liked any in
Speaker 1: the past years I've reached out. I'd be like saying yo,
Speaker 1: but then when he say all right, can you call me?
Speaker 1: I just shut down and we don't end up having
Speaker 1: a conversation because it's just like I can never see
Speaker 1: myself walking out of my son's life. And I know
Speaker 1: that's why overcompen saying, now with my kid and I
Speaker 1: irritate him, I'll be hugging on him, loving him so
Speaker 1: much because my daddy never gave me none of that,
Speaker 1: and I just don't understand. It never makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: He blamed my mama and say, like, your mama made
Speaker 1: it hard. I tried to come around, but it's just
Speaker 1: like my baby mama could not stop me from seeing
Speaker 1: my kid. Yeah, I will say, you know a lot
Speaker 1: of the hate that I started to have for my
Speaker 1: dad after therapy once I had a conversation with him
Speaker 1: and realized he was just a man dealing with his
Speaker 1: own shit. Like he went the therapy two or three
Speaker 1: times a week, he was on tending to twelve different medications.
Speaker 1: He tried to commit suicide. When I heard that human
Speaker 1: in a real way for me, So I started giving
Speaker 1: them grace. Grace. That's what my therapist was saying about
Speaker 1: my mom when I was explaining my frustrations about her,
Speaker 1: and she was like, do you understand how hard it
Speaker 1: is to be a single black mom, Like because I
Speaker 1: was mad, like I feel like my mama didn't chase
Speaker 1: her dreams and like she taught me how to settle.
Speaker 1: But then my therapist was like, that's a win right there,
Speaker 1: her being able to raise you, and you need to
Speaker 1: look at how great that was, and I downplayed that,
Speaker 1: and like my mom is a survivor and she's strong
Speaker 1: as hell. So yeah, I think we forget that our
Speaker 1: parents had lives before exactly exactly, and it goes so
Speaker 1: far back, like the way my mom moving relationships come
Speaker 1: from my grandma. Then it's like, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: a cycle, and we the first generation that has the
Speaker 1: luxury of actually healing. They had to. They were scratching
Speaker 1: and surviving, you know what I mean. That's why I
Speaker 1: said this is the hell generation. I see all my
Speaker 1: friends it is like great dads now they all in
Speaker 1: their kids life. Therapy is a conversation whether people like
Speaker 1: this is using it to look cool. I don't even care,
Speaker 1: just because like the message out there. Now you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And sometimes you have to think you
Speaker 1: wouldn't even be who you are where you are if
Speaker 1: it wasn't for how you raised and the way that
Speaker 1: things happen. Yeah, that's true. I honestly, I'm still scared
Speaker 1: to heal all the way because as a rapper, I
Speaker 1: think it's like weak. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't think I could thrive as a rapper being healed
Speaker 1: all the way. And I'm scared of that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm right, but it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: the world glorified ignorance, and it's just like you gotta
Speaker 1: play the game and feel like sometimes and anyone ever
Speaker 1: heal all the way and you know you're right. Healing
Speaker 1: is a constant journey. It's not a destination. You're right,
Speaker 1: But it's just like positive me being like I'm scared
Speaker 1: to just become a positive nigga. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Look how the world started demonizing Chance for
Speaker 1: like being happy and it's like, boy, he can't be happy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had that conversation last time Chance was him. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: a man can't love his wife like they hating on
Speaker 1: Chance because he actually loves his wife. In the meantime,
Speaker 1: Big Sulu bomped in Parru. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I saw you told rolling stone that you you probably
Speaker 1: like five percent healed. Yeah, we're talking about your growth.
Speaker 1: Elaborate now her saying it's never gonna be I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna be healed. I don't think I'm no person. I
Speaker 1: think I'm just learning more as I grow. As I grow,
Speaker 1: So I saw that is. I'm just saying, like I'm
Speaker 1: so it make it hard because I'm aware of so
Speaker 1: much stuff now, but i still dive into so much ignorance.
Speaker 1: Shit Like I wake up in the morning, I turn
Speaker 1: on Whack one hunting clubhouse argument videos and start my
Speaker 1: day and then I'll be having girls spending night and
Speaker 1: they're like, why are you waking up on this type
Speaker 1: of time? And I don't, like, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: like addicted to like this nonsense in this chaos. We'll
Speaker 1: just finding the balance. Wake up in the morning, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Say you're pressed, you know, I
Speaker 1: go to my affirmation books. I got like three affirmation
Speaker 1: books I read and I don't go to the internet
Speaker 1: until I get here six or six in the morning.
Speaker 1: So it's just like it's nothing wrong with doing it,
Speaker 1: just don't you know, don't let that start you day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: meditation actually been helping me because I do it a
Speaker 1: lot of anxiety, Like every time I got to post
Speaker 1: on Instagram or something like that, it's hard. It's just
Speaker 1: hard to turn my brain off. And I know meditation
Speaker 1: is supposed to be about like accepting the thoughts for
Speaker 1: what it is and letting them pass and staying present,
Speaker 1: but I'll be overthinking everything. I'm like, nigga, what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do tomorrow? Like why are they doing me like
Speaker 1: this two weeks ago? And it's just like it's hard.
Speaker 1: But I'm not human. I know, man, it's human. That's
Speaker 1: why I love that line. It ain't know where you
Speaker 1: still a bit you're asking therapy, that's not about you.
Speaker 1: That's valid. I almost want to write that down and
Speaker 1: just look at it a lot, like wow, because that's
Speaker 1: a very valid line. I'm glad you appreciate it, man,
Speaker 1: well being that this is your first time here and
Speaker 1: we haven't had a chance to speak to you before.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about your journey and even
Speaker 1: like I know you signed to Endoscope and then how
Speaker 1: did you an eminem link up? That was a random
Speaker 1: and shit, I don't know, all right, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: started singing off in church I'm just fast forward. I
Speaker 1: was singing in church and Compton Um realized, I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're singing in church, And I got to
Speaker 1: talk about thirty years of life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was my mama sent me to the church and
Speaker 1: Compton I was getting in trouble. She sent me with
Speaker 1: her homegirl to go to church. She didn't want to
Speaker 1: come with me. Call it the buyer instead of the choir. No,
Speaker 1: that's funny as hell. Uh. If a nigga did that,
Speaker 1: I'll be so mad. But yeah, I was going gospel
Speaker 1: raps at first. Then it was these little kids. I
Speaker 1: was going to the church who was game members already,
Speaker 1: and I thought there was the coolest niggas in the world.
Speaker 1: So I became a follower. Just start following him. After church,
Speaker 1: gospel raps wasn't the thing. No more, started doing regular raps.
Speaker 1: They started rapping around the city. Got my baby mom
Speaker 1: and pregnant. At nineteen, went to Lombe City College, finessing
Speaker 1: four a loan, bought studio equipment, was recording in my
Speaker 1: mama room for about four years. This white man hit
Speaker 1: me on Twitter. In the hood, we think any white
Speaker 1: person hit us. We made it. Well, that's what I
Speaker 1: thought at the time. He became my manager. At the time,
Speaker 1: he came from an ed M background. He was working
Speaker 1: with like Scrilics. Interscope ended up calling me, um wow,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but yeah, I dropped a song called oh My.
Speaker 1: Interscope ended up calling me. I leveraged them, like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do all the labels, but I was
Speaker 1: gonna end up going back to Interscope anyway. Signed with them.
Speaker 1: Then they put me on the shelf because my manager
Speaker 1: at the time, me and him had hit the ceiling
Speaker 1: and they just wasn't knowing my manager. It was so scanless.
Speaker 1: But then LVRN came around. They had got an imprint
Speaker 1: at Interscope, and my A and R at the time
Speaker 1: was like, hey man, I got this this company, I
Speaker 1: think you should work with um they black and I
Speaker 1: think y'all y'all could vibe together. At the same time,
Speaker 1: like two weeks before that, he had caught me and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know how Paul Rosenberg found your music, but
Speaker 1: he fucking with you when he want to fly you
Speaker 1: to Detroit. So at the same time I got new
Speaker 1: management and Eminem took over my contract in like out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. It's not like I don't know how you
Speaker 1: found me for real, for real, They said the Rihanna
Speaker 1: post maybe was the thing, because Rihanna did post me
Speaker 1: like one of them years. But were you hesitant as
Speaker 1: far as shady or where you like immediately because you
Speaker 1: know sometimes people have an issue signing to another artist. No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't hesitant because I was already on the shelf,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I was just trying
Speaker 1: to change my situation. I was thirsty also, and it's
Speaker 1: not like I was signing in a new deal. He
Speaker 1: just took over my in my original contract. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so what a eminem say when you got there? What's crazy?
Speaker 1: He don't really talk a lot. I think we both
Speaker 1: deal with social anxiety. I'm not even sure I supposed
Speaker 1: to say that, but yeah, he just he what was dope?
Speaker 1: He told me the songs he liked was like my
Speaker 1: album cuts, and he was explaining me those lyrics, and
Speaker 1: then that's what made me, That's what made me trust
Speaker 1: a judgment because he wasn't just talking to me about
Speaker 1: the viral song. So we had that conversation. I went
Speaker 1: home and then he just gave me the freedom to create.
Speaker 1: So that's why I appreciate them, because he gave me
Speaker 1: advice when I needed, but he don't like overset my
Speaker 1: creative process. Do you think about making songs that are
Speaker 1: going to be more mainstream? Do you plant or do
Speaker 1: you just say I just make what I feel like making.
Speaker 1: I think this time around, I made a more conscious
Speaker 1: effort to at least try to touch like faster bpms.
Speaker 1: I think I gets so comfortable making slow heartbreak music,
Speaker 1: and I think that becomes selfish to my team because
Speaker 1: like Nigga, we're not getting no bag off these slow songs,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think it's about
Speaker 1: pushing myself, but also not like sacrifice in my integrity,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because I want to be
Speaker 1: a team player. I want to make a hit. It's
Speaker 1: not like I'm not in it to make great songs. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot you just talked about that that I'm lying.
Speaker 1: There's only one thing I want to because it's so fantastic.
Speaker 1: Most people become gang in the in the street. You
Speaker 1: became gang in the church, Yeah, exactly, a crazy thing.
Speaker 1: Become gang in the churches. I'm sitting there thinking if
Speaker 1: the gang members were coming to church, they clearly was
Speaker 1: searching for something else. No, it wasn't. We was going
Speaker 1: because all our parents made And that's the thing, and
Speaker 1: that's the thing in La. Gangs in churches tied so
Speaker 1: like close together, like we always at church growing up.
Speaker 1: Every hood had a church they went to, you know,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was really only going for the girls
Speaker 1: and then see the homies friend of hood. So when
Speaker 1: you got jumped in, did you like asked for God? Like, oh,
Speaker 1: God just hurts. I ain't even gonna lie. It was
Speaker 1: one of them things where I just was over there
Speaker 1: since I was thirteen, and they just like accepted me.
Speaker 1: I probably fought my cousin like once he was like,
Speaker 1: are you friend the hood? Now? Niggas inn gent me?
Speaker 1: And I had to deal with that. I had to
Speaker 1: deal with And that's what I'm saying. It's like it's
Speaker 1: people from my neighborhood who had to like grow who
Speaker 1: actually was born there and had to and had no
Speaker 1: choice but to be from there. I walked my happy
Speaker 1: ass over there and I didn't have to. And that's
Speaker 1: like a message I'd be telling my kid I went
Speaker 1: to my kid phone one time and he was saying
Speaker 1: cud and his friends. And I should have broke my
Speaker 1: heart because like I had never prepared him before that
Speaker 1: type of conversation. Before that, I just tried to hide
Speaker 1: the reason I started gang banging, forgetting that I'm a rapper.
Speaker 1: He's still gonna see any throwing on my hood and
Speaker 1: these songs. And I should have been had this conversation
Speaker 1: with him because like, yeah, and so he's silver. He
Speaker 1: ain't went to no struggle. He don't have no reason
Speaker 1: to gang bang. But that's just because the world found
Speaker 1: him before I had the conversation with him. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's tempting in La. Everybody wants to gang bang in
Speaker 1: La because it looked cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that conversation broke my heart. Especially he wanted to
Speaker 1: be a crip and I'm a whole blood, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So said, boy, you want to be
Speaker 1: a Why does he want to be a crip? I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, snoop. Maybe I don't know who knows.
Speaker 1: Man being in the gang? Is that what you consider that?
Speaker 1: A generational curse? Dang it is um I wanted to stop.
Speaker 1: I know, gang banging started with like a sense of
Speaker 1: us protecting our community, policing it from like the police
Speaker 1: or outside entities and stuff like that. But now we're
Speaker 1: just poison it. I'm not gonna lie like, but it
Speaker 1: is a sense of brotherhood, a sense of community that
Speaker 1: we don't got. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we can't act like it's a good thing, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So it is accurse to me. What
Speaker 1: do you think when you see people like in New
Speaker 1: York emulating it or in other cities where that's not
Speaker 1: really the culture up. Yeah, that just show you the
Speaker 1: power of la gangbanging and that should be tripping me
Speaker 1: out too when I go other places and see it too.
Speaker 1: But they still real ones. It's not like they punks.
Speaker 1: You go out here and they still like really with
Speaker 1: the ship and they still like living by that code.
Speaker 1: But I just think, yeah, the ricos is crazy, that's all.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying my hood on no more songs. I'm cool.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that about them using lyrics
Speaker 1: against artists, we're just talking about that. I think it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: I think we gotta be mindful though, because like I
Speaker 1: think black I would tell you them the homie earlier.
Speaker 1: I think black people got this thing. We feel like
Speaker 1: if other black people are not on the side of crime,
Speaker 1: then they punks. Like we'll be mad at that mayor
Speaker 1: in Atlanta or whatever. She is a governor, but because
Speaker 1: she's doing her job. But it's just like this, because
Speaker 1: she's standing on the opposite side of you, don't mean
Speaker 1: she's wrong, because I get it, and y'all need to
Speaker 1: be more mindful of stuff. Y'all saying I get what
Speaker 1: y'all doing in these streets. But well, I said on
Speaker 1: the song, you know what I'm saying, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: And I realized years ago that most people's perception of
Speaker 1: real are the definition and real is usually coming to
Speaker 1: do it soon. And it's crazy. And it's like that
Speaker 1: is that we conditioned by the street code, even like
Speaker 1: people that have got nothing to do with the street
Speaker 1: be conditioned by it. So to describe the title more
Speaker 1: Black Superheroes, because you're not talking about comic books. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not not gonna make a book, um, but this
Speaker 1: it's a layered title for me. It's about um addressing
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm a survivor. I think as black men,
Speaker 1: we go outside in the world and we deal with
Speaker 1: so much stuff and we just take it to the
Speaker 1: chin because we just take it as a norm. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to take this moment to give myself credit
Speaker 1: that I made it through these situations that it's not
Speaker 1: normal the stuff we go through. Also, it's about me
Speaker 1: addressing all the sides of myself, Like I got a
Speaker 1: vulnerable side, I got an emotional side, I got all
Speaker 1: these different sides that I feel like combined to make
Speaker 1: the greatest version of myself. And like the superhero part,
Speaker 1: that's like being an extra. But I just wanted to
Speaker 1: give myself the greatest form of credit by calling myself
Speaker 1: a superhero. And also to show my kid, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that you could a superhero he could touch,
Speaker 1: not one that's just on TV. Because really for my
Speaker 1: kid too, so does just saying realize how famous you are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he still treat me like the corny dad. His
Speaker 1: friends treat me more famous than he do. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's just trying to hide it and not
Speaker 1: made me feel cool, But I'm just dad to him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But every time we go somewhere,
Speaker 1: people taking pictures and he get irritated. And so there's that,
Speaker 1: but now here a little TikTok famous kids. So we
Speaker 1: go out and he got a little TikTok. People saying, oh,
Speaker 1: that's DJ from TikTok, And I think that's it weird
Speaker 1: because his TikTok is him doing a little freaky faces
Speaker 1: like singing videos. You know, litt light skin faces kids
Speaker 1: be doing so now. In the song Stuck, you talk
Speaker 1: about how you've been through hell and you can't hide it.
Speaker 1: So when you are as open about these issues like
Speaker 1: you were on this project, does it make it harder
Speaker 1: or easier to create? Um, it's easy to create. It's
Speaker 1: hard to be outside in the world. I think I'd
Speaker 1: be so drawn drained emotionally from being in the studio
Speaker 1: and being vulnerable. It's hard to be vulnerable vulnerable in person,
Speaker 1: and that's a hard part when people want to have
Speaker 1: deep conversations with me in person and I start shutting
Speaker 1: down and I'm like, I did this in the studio.
Speaker 1: Don't mean I could do this really all the time
Speaker 1: in person. But they're creating. Part is that's my therapy
Speaker 1: because I'll be so like confined when I'm not in
Speaker 1: the studio. It's finally my release, so it's not really
Speaker 1: hard to create at all. Ever, and people who probably
Speaker 1: feel like they can relate to you, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, Oh, he's dealing with the same
Speaker 1: things and just go listen to the song. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about it all the time. When
Speaker 1: I see you how to value to feedback from your team.
Speaker 1: I saw you had said that when you were making
Speaker 1: this album. They were like, Okay, this is starting to
Speaker 1: sound too much alike the songs that you're doing. You
Speaker 1: gotta switch it up. Is that something that you would like?
Speaker 1: People get very defensive about their own music, So how
Speaker 1: is that for you? I'm super sensitive about my art,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sensitive to the people. I trust my producers.
Speaker 1: I'm with them every day, so I trust they good.
Speaker 1: But they also with me every day, so I know
Speaker 1: we all could get complacent with each other. But my
Speaker 1: manager Justice, he the most evil nigge in the world.
Speaker 1: He tell me when stuff bad, he tell me when
Speaker 1: it sucked, and I appreciate them so much for that
Speaker 1: because it always pushed me. Sometimes I gotta be like
Speaker 1: nigga you from Atlanta. You just got a different ear
Speaker 1: than me. But you know a lot of times he right,
Speaker 1: and I gotta push myself so I don't me tripping.
Speaker 1: It's when other people who I feel like don't really
Speaker 1: understand it or understand the culture it got stuff to say,
Speaker 1: That's when I get irritated. But it is what it is,
Speaker 1: white people. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. Do you communicate
Speaker 1: with eminem about your music? Like do you send them
Speaker 1: stuff like YO with you? Yeah? I tell him and
Speaker 1: he always got He always tell me what he thinks
Speaker 1: I should do, and then I've taken into consideration. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I listen. Sometimes I don't. Do you ever be like
Speaker 1: m you let you ever let Dre hear my ship?
Speaker 1: You know, just nah, I'll mean, you know, I'll be
Speaker 1: so confused because I've never met Dre a day of
Speaker 1: my life. Yeah, Like, so my the ego and me
Speaker 1: be like nigga, you don't see me out here making
Speaker 1: these moves. But that's entitled it. I know. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It happened when it happened, if it's
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. But it's still a thing though. You
Speaker 1: from the West Coast, you see right next to him,
Speaker 1: like Hendrick from the hood, Like, what's going on, man,
Speaker 1: So what's your relationship like with Kendrick? You know, have
Speaker 1: ya because you know, I'm thinking like y'all from the
Speaker 1: same place with these last albums Miss Morales and the
Speaker 1: Big Stuff in Black Superhero, y'all kind of on the
Speaker 1: same wave length met at first, like I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: this nigga bigger than me. He didn't took my message.
Speaker 1: But also I want to say, if I really care
Speaker 1: about the message, like I spoke on with the homies,
Speaker 1: if I really care about the message, I should appreciate
Speaker 1: Kendrick getting in out there because if not, if I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to hold it it's my message, then I
Speaker 1: don't really care. But um, for one, that's my favorite rapper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he from my neighborhood, and I just appreciate the doors
Speaker 1: he opened just about being himself. I never expect Kindrick
Speaker 1: to do nothing for me. He didn't gave me opportunities
Speaker 1: because just being letting me come around to see certain stuff,
Speaker 1: being in the studio with him. Um so yeah, yeah not.
Speaker 1: He not like my best friend. It's like somebody from
Speaker 1: my neighborhood who's accessible to everybody from my neighborhood. And
Speaker 1: you wrote on his last album. Then you write for
Speaker 1: Summer Walker when she but that's the gang stuff. He
Speaker 1: I don't even think he knew till after. That's just
Speaker 1: because you know what I'm saying. Elvr In gave me
Speaker 1: that play Summer My Dogs. So when they came to
Speaker 1: you and was like, hey, we need you to write
Speaker 1: a verse for Kindrick's album, but it's for Summer, I
Speaker 1: was like, you like a word? Okay. I thought you'd
Speaker 1: been like what let me. You're happy to do it,
Speaker 1: but damn you know you might want to be another
Speaker 1: albums one hundred percent. I want to be on an album.
Speaker 1: I was just grateful for the opportunity. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like that again. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: be feeling no sense of entitled me and I'll just
Speaker 1: be happy like when niggas give me a chance, because
Speaker 1: I'll be so condition that nobody's gonna look out for me.
Speaker 1: I don't trust nobody anyway, So and somebody actually give
Speaker 1: me a chance, I'm like, Oh, it's good humans in
Speaker 1: the world. And so I was just happy about the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Did your mom think that you were going to make
Speaker 1: it back then when you were doing gospel wrap and
Speaker 1: getting started with everything. Was she real supportive? My mom
Speaker 1: had always been supportive of whatever I wanted to do.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish she would have pushed me more when
Speaker 1: I was younger, But ever since I figured out what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do in music and I had to
Speaker 1: stay at home with her, and I knew she need
Speaker 1: to help with rent, but she just let me record.
Speaker 1: She always told me I was gonna make it, and
Speaker 1: she'd be so proud of me all the time and
Speaker 1: always calling me like, I'm so proud of you baby,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, do you think God? Often? Dang, not
Speaker 1: as much as I should, or I'd be so I
Speaker 1: haven't learned how to be present for real. I'd be
Speaker 1: so focused on where I want to be and where
Speaker 1: I gotta get to her I feel like I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be. It'd be hard. And sometimes I feel like
Speaker 1: I only talk to God when I'm going through stuff,
Speaker 1: and I need to get better at talking to Him
Speaker 1: in my good times. Yeah, you gotta just say it randomly,
Speaker 1: like right now, thank you Jesus, Thank you Jesus. Bryce.
Speaker 1: I'm also in like church also, thank you guy. Um.
Speaker 1: But I'm also sometimes i'd be in spiritual limbo because
Speaker 1: like church messed me up as far as the politics
Speaker 1: behind it and as far as like it didn't feel
Speaker 1: like a spiritual place anymore. And then I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to be Christian or Muslim. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a real thing. I need to
Speaker 1: do my research. But right now I am in spiritual limbo.
Speaker 1: I know I believe in a higher power. I believe
Speaker 1: spiritual it is. That's the right term, religious limbo, because
Speaker 1: my spirit isn't. I'm in tune. But yeah, I really
Speaker 1: need to work on it too. Do you go to
Speaker 1: church at Allston? No, I don't go to church anymore.
Speaker 1: Can you call it church? Can you say birch? I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to. I don't know, I'm just trying to.
Speaker 1: I'm not the homies. It was funny about me. I
Speaker 1: don't like cold Switch until I get around the homies
Speaker 1: friend of hood. Then I started replacing all the letters.
Speaker 1: I turned into super blood. But when I be out,
Speaker 1: I don't do that shit, and I don't be I
Speaker 1: don't know how they do it so good. They can
Speaker 1: replace any letter or like off top. Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: be I got to think about that ship before and
Speaker 1: some of it is blasphemths like you cannot say Jesus
Speaker 1: Bryce the homies will though no yea they wow. Well
Speaker 1: say earlier when you said either thinking about where you
Speaker 1: feel like you should be or where you want to
Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be, or where you want to be,
Speaker 1: where is that the biggest rapper in the world? Um
Speaker 1: So that's I know, comparison is like a thief of joy,
Speaker 1: but it's hard, you know what I'm saying. I'm in
Speaker 1: a music industry, so I know it's about the value
Speaker 1: is based off accolades and like streams and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when I see Dot the biggest rapper being
Speaker 1: from my neighborhood, It's like, Okay, I want to be
Speaker 1: that plus more. When I'm signing the Eminem, I don't
Speaker 1: just want to be somebody signing Eminem. I want to
Speaker 1: be bigger than Eminem. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: I'm competitive still at the end of the day. So
Speaker 1: the competitive nature in me sometimes stops me from being present,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, even though I'm grateful, Like
Speaker 1: I know It's a lot of people would die to
Speaker 1: be in my position. And I know I got a
Speaker 1: super fan base that I should that I'm grateful for.
Speaker 1: But it's hard, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: it was a great about artists like yourself and Kindrick.
Speaker 1: I feel like y'all shattering all stereotypes of what a
Speaker 1: West Coast artist is supposed to be, you know, because
Speaker 1: back in my day, it was the low riders and
Speaker 1: the khaki pants and then Converse and all of that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Like do you think about stuff like that? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know something. I used to get frustrated because it
Speaker 1: felt like I had to get the love outside of
Speaker 1: LA first, before LA gaming I love just because I
Speaker 1: wasn't making traditional LA music, and then they had to
Speaker 1: catch on like, oh we can fuck with this. He
Speaker 1: represents us in a good way and I love I
Speaker 1: love my home. But that's just reality. It's hard because
Speaker 1: now we got like it's like I can't explain the
Speaker 1: time when with our music in LA but it's just
Speaker 1: not what I make, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I get it. On the song stuff you talk about
Speaker 1: how much you do love your hood and going back,
Speaker 1: but sometimes people will tell you it's hard because people
Speaker 1: are jealous. Things could be dangerous when you go back.
Speaker 1: What's that balanced like for you? I did with survivor's
Speaker 1: guilt all the time. I don't. I go to my
Speaker 1: neighborhood when I don't even have to, and then I
Speaker 1: forced myself into stuff I don't have to, like conversations
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have no part dealing with. And that's just
Speaker 1: because sometimes I feel like I'm reaping the benefits a
Speaker 1: gang banging when I don't have to deal with the
Speaker 1: kinds of it. I could go home. Why they gotta
Speaker 1: still live in the hood when I know the industry like,
Speaker 1: oh here blood, let's give him more streams. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel, you know what I'm saying. I know sometimes
Speaker 1: when I put on the red band and I get
Speaker 1: more clicks, and so that makes me feel guilty because like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have to do that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So survivor's guilt is a real thing. And I love
Speaker 1: my neighborhood, but I know I can't take them everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's like it's a hundred of them, one hundreds of them,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's also like you
Speaker 1: being inspired by Kendrick and that could push you, and
Speaker 1: then there's kids looking at you that are inspired by
Speaker 1: seeing you make it. And I also feel like sometimes
Speaker 1: when you make it and you're able to financially help
Speaker 1: other people, that's a benefit too. Yeah, the financial part
Speaker 1: is tough though, because like I got a kid, I
Speaker 1: gotta look out for first. I got people that I'm
Speaker 1: with every every day that I got to look out for.
Speaker 1: And it's just like if I create a culture where
Speaker 1: I just give everybody money, just like you know, that's
Speaker 1: when you create a foundation, and maybe it's a scholarship
Speaker 1: thing that you do, you know annually, certain things that
Speaker 1: you could do. It's not like you got to help
Speaker 1: everybody and just give money. A way, but I think
Speaker 1: I do think there's a way to go about it. Right.
Speaker 1: My homies usually just be like I gotta give a
Speaker 1: verse to a lot of the homie and that part
Speaker 1: so hard to say. No, that's the tough part, because
Speaker 1: they like, you got this platform, why you're not doing
Speaker 1: this for me? But they understand how draining that is
Speaker 1: and also how I got to think of my brand
Speaker 1: if I like saturated too much about giving so many verses,
Speaker 1: it don't hold the same weight. So sometimes they don't
Speaker 1: understand that, and that's when I feel guilty because it's
Speaker 1: like then I got to play the game like management said,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't drop this. And time is money too,
Speaker 1: when people have to respect the fact that you're working
Speaker 1: all the time and you do have to get compensated
Speaker 1: and I'm not trapping, like this is how I eat,
Speaker 1: And sometimes they don't understand that, Like it's all I got,
Speaker 1: So me just giving your verses like crazy, when you
Speaker 1: talk about gangbanging, it isn't gag banging, just one aspect
Speaker 1: of being in the gang. Or you could be in
Speaker 1: a gang and never have bang, right, Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: from I'm just a game member. I don't consider myself
Speaker 1: a game banger because I'm not the one in my
Speaker 1: hood that's you know on that time I go over
Speaker 1: there and I'm like either the rapper or I'm trying
Speaker 1: to tell the homies different stuff about why they don't
Speaker 1: got to do this. So I never tried to like
Speaker 1: fight somebody, you know what I'm saying. It's nothing to
Speaker 1: catch or fade, but yeah, it is different aspects of it.
Speaker 1: We got homies like we just look at for advice
Speaker 1: like the older homies, but we got homies who go
Speaker 1: go take that trip, who were get in that car
Speaker 1: and go do what they gotta do. So it is
Speaker 1: different levels of it, but it's still fall under the
Speaker 1: same umbrella. Yeah, and it's messed up because when you're
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in, like looking at a place
Speaker 1: like you know, La, and you hear people say they're
Speaker 1: from certain places like Compton, Wi, Twitter, you just automatically
Speaker 1: assume they're in again. Yeah, And I did like a
Speaker 1: survey and like LA lay trying to see if everybody
Speaker 1: knew I was a blood because I thought I did
Speaker 1: so good at hiden it in my brain and like
Speaker 1: finding balance, and I didn't think I ever glorified. And
Speaker 1: I was like, when you first thinking me, what do
Speaker 1: you think of? It was like blood? And I was like,
Speaker 1: what blood? Who came up to? That is how much
Speaker 1: Greek gangs different from other criminals such as organized crime groups,
Speaker 1: motorcycle gangs, ideology groups in priving games? What the hell?
Speaker 1: Yeah it is different gangs. The police LA is the
Speaker 1: really the biggest gang. But yeah, yeah that's true. Um
Speaker 1: I saw you saying an ig caption. I told myself,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start celebrating all my sins. Wins we do.
Speaker 1: But by the way, we do celebrate a lot of
Speaker 1: our sins. We said, all my wins. So I'm proud
Speaker 1: of you. Boogie. How much is a positive self self
Speaker 1: talk helped you? I was capping on the Instagram post,
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound because I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: It's not I said. I was like, I always say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do stuff, but the execution is always a
Speaker 1: hard part. So I haven't really been hyping myself up.
Speaker 1: I said I'm gonna do even since my album came out.
Speaker 1: I ain't even sat down and be like, oh, but
Speaker 1: be proud of yourself because then, like, I'm already back
Speaker 1: in the studio trying to compete already. Are you doing
Speaker 1: a deluxe album? Yeah, but I'm also trying to drop
Speaker 1: work on a project to drop right after that, So
Speaker 1: my brain is kind of like all over there. So
Speaker 1: you don't give you so positive self talk. I haven't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start start. I promise I'm gonna start. That's
Speaker 1: a way to come back to the anxiety, because you know,
Speaker 1: the anxiety will tell you that whatever could go wrong
Speaker 1: will go wrong. Anxiety you have you out here like
Speaker 1: chicken a little the sky has fallen, so it is
Speaker 1: good to give yourself that positive self. My anxiety is crazy.
Speaker 1: It happens. Trust me, I did with it every day,
Speaker 1: I tell y'all. And I know I gotta post on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Why is that sh the comments? If you at people
Speaker 1: like I opened myself up, it's like I opened up
Speaker 1: the floodgates. And I also never replied to nobody on Instagram,
Speaker 1: you like, it's I'm all, it's like an exercise. It's
Speaker 1: of me having to be the bigger person every time
Speaker 1: I post on Instagram. And it's just like I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to go to that exercise every time.
Speaker 1: And you really don't tweet either, Nah. They told me
Speaker 1: to start tweeting worrow. It used to be like a
Speaker 1: good tweeter. You know what I'm saying. I'm pretty good,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty funny. But it's just like it's not good
Speaker 1: for your mental health. Man. It's hard. It's hard, but
Speaker 1: I ain't know, bitch, I'm about to get back on
Speaker 1: it because I'm not gonna let y'all punk me up.
Speaker 1: Social What about vacations. Do you go on vacation. I've
Speaker 1: never been on a vacation everever. Nope. I went to
Speaker 1: my manager birthday last year, the dr, but I ended
Speaker 1: up stopping arguments between drum and other people. But I said,
Speaker 1: dr name, I'm so funny. Shout out my boy drum.
Speaker 1: He's doing an album too. That's my boy, Shelley Shell.
Speaker 1: That's my brother. The name Shelley. Now he changed the
Speaker 1: name Shelley Shelley FKA Drum. Still say it's drum on
Speaker 1: your album it says Shelley FKA Drum. No, it did not.
Speaker 1: On title it said just feature Shelly Man. Look, let
Speaker 1: me see tim push ups ups. Let me see how
Speaker 1: the West Side they did that? What's up? Let me
Speaker 1: get to tell out of that ten King King cho
Speaker 1: one two? Are you doing him right? For five? Six
Speaker 1: nine ten? I write good money, good money, good money,
Speaker 1: good money, nicely and you hired to you just I
Speaker 1: literally hate losing that stuff. So listen, what about a
Speaker 1: vacation though, I think maybe it's time for that, and
Speaker 1: you can take your son going. He gonna piss me
Speaker 1: off in the first he could stay home. I need
Speaker 1: a vacation from him. Too, but you should. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: but I ain't got no joint I want to bring
Speaker 1: right now. You never went on vacation with your ex. Nah,
Speaker 1: that's probably another reason flew around real quickly for Hawaii
Speaker 1: right there. I know, man, I'll be torn. I'm I was.
Speaker 1: I'm a like starving artist, bro, I'm you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Sometimes I feel like I don't got the
Speaker 1: lecture even on to afford the vacation. You could probably
Speaker 1: get a free vacation too on me just finesse it. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: you definitely couldn't be like we just need to do
Speaker 1: a post. Yeah. I just start figuring out I could
Speaker 1: do that. In La it was a bowling alley and
Speaker 1: I used my name and they let me in and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, I could finesse my name.
Speaker 1: You definitely could get a resort to comp that, and
Speaker 1: they just you know, and yeah, yeah, we definitely could
Speaker 1: set that up. What made you want to put Soldier Boy?
Speaker 1: Can't even lie because you got Soldier actually rapping. I
Speaker 1: was trying to be funny at first in the studio
Speaker 1: with the homies, I was like, Yo, this give me
Speaker 1: Soldier Boy energy. I was just with my producers. Then
Speaker 1: I text my manager like the idea. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: know this sound crazy, but what if. Then he told
Speaker 1: me Soldier Boy price and we paid we got the verse. Wow,
Speaker 1: bad you give that boy that, Brad, you get it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, money talk. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Big Soldier because he gave me a good verse and
Speaker 1: I'm happy for that. Yeah, he's rapping. You got actually rapping.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Big Soldier bomped and Soldier Boy. All right,
Speaker 1: Oh y'all claim his bombay man, it's whatever he say
Speaker 1: that too. That we talked about price because I saw
Speaker 1: the other day NBA Young Boy Game was talking about
Speaker 1: well Whack was talking about it and Game was talking
Speaker 1: about it. But getting charged to do a verse. That's
Speaker 1: not offensive, right when you know you deserve a certain
Speaker 1: price too. Yeah, everybody got to eat. Sometimes it'd be swap,
Speaker 1: but it only it got to be beneficial. Everybody don't
Speaker 1: want to do a swap because they ain't going your
Speaker 1: VERSI of their project. They just want some bread. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I get it. Snoop, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that that felt like a writer passage in a way.
Speaker 1: Right to get Snoop on Did I love Snoop because
Speaker 1: he's so accessible to all the like good LA artists
Speaker 1: or even like as long as you like passionate about it,
Speaker 1: you could find a way to get to Snoop And
Speaker 1: I d M him and he gave me two verses
Speaker 1: like in two days and I appreciate Big Snoop and
Speaker 1: he got on your wave with this album. He's talking
Speaker 1: about meditation and everything. Yeah, Big Snoop side of Tall
Speaker 1: windows down, window rolled down, Yep, I don't even know
Speaker 1: the name of the Windows down smokes too much weed.
Speaker 1: Do you respond as your fans when they hit you up,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure you've influenced a lot of them because
Speaker 1: you've been so open about everything you've gone through and
Speaker 1: therapy and how you're trying to heal. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: reply as much as I can. Um, it's just hard, though.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna start going on a lot more
Speaker 1: to have like conversations with them, to be more like
Speaker 1: intimate with them, because they did wait a long time
Speaker 1: for me to drop an album, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to just disappear like off into the abyss. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to do better at talking to them. You
Speaker 1: say you're working on your next album. If your next album,
Speaker 1: you know, if if the gods are telling you a man,
Speaker 1: continue to talk about what it is you're talking about,
Speaker 1: continue to talk about healing, continue to talk about growth.
Speaker 1: Are you going to fight that? Definitely gonna. I don't
Speaker 1: mean I'm not gonna do it, but I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 1: fight it. Why man, if it's real, it's real, I'm conditioning, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm from a name, I'm from a gang. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know's I said one thing, I'm about to
Speaker 1: make it something. It's layered and I'm from a gang
Speaker 1: and then it ended. But it's just hard. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why can't you do both? Why can't you say, Hey,
Speaker 1: if the spirit moves you to write a record like this,
Speaker 1: right it if moving to right recor this dude? If
Speaker 1: you if you want to do it the same song,
Speaker 1: why not, I'm just choosing to be ignorant. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Man, I'm gonna keep talking about I know
Speaker 1: the responsibility I got now. Um not just that I
Speaker 1: spoke on therapy. This is the fact that I'm aware. Um,
Speaker 1: so I gotta move better and I'm always gonna move better.
Speaker 1: Well hopefully I am. And well, listen, we're all the
Speaker 1: perfect balance of ratchetness and righteousness blood at you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Did any of the girls stopped talking
Speaker 1: to you from your birthday party the other night? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I just tried to say hi to all of them
Speaker 1: the next day and it's over. I really, my roster's done.
Speaker 1: For roster right now? Is gonna even make it more worse?
Speaker 1: How many of you had bro No, it wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: It was like, like, like, because the hard part is right,
Speaker 1: people try to wait it out to see to the end,
Speaker 1: like who's leaving with him? I know? And that's what
Speaker 1: the crazy part, because girls started hanging around. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you. I got home that night, right, so I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna be smart and this and not
Speaker 1: go home with none of these bitches. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm so sorry, see perfect balance. Apologize because
Speaker 1: that wasn't cool at all. You're working progress, but um,
Speaker 1: these women and I got home and one of them
Speaker 1: was sitting in my room at four in the morning
Speaker 1: waiting to catch me up with another girl, and I like,
Speaker 1: one of the most scariest things, And I was like,
Speaker 1: you can't really, you can't play with these people feelings.
Speaker 1: How get your room. I left my door unlocked like
Speaker 1: an idiot, and people like some people know all be
Speaker 1: leaving my door unlocked because I'm just be being lazy.
Speaker 1: So she knew that, and she was in my room
Speaker 1: waiting for me. But it was like seven girls there,
Speaker 1: but none of them is my girlfriends. So I don't
Speaker 1: know why he was acting like that. You have a
Speaker 1: name like the Westside Boogears or no, man, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not proud of this. She had to
Speaker 1: go home because like she was. She told me I
Speaker 1: was being disrespectful. She was just like, why would you
Speaker 1: invite me if you're gonna have these other girls there?
Speaker 1: Blah blah this, And I said, I actually didn't invite you.
Speaker 1: My assistern invited you. I didn't know you was coming.
Speaker 1: And I also felt like I didn't hug on none
Speaker 1: of them at the party. I stayed around the homies.
Speaker 1: So it was just her intuition. Because some other dude
Speaker 1: text me after the party, some singer. He was like,
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know you a pimp,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, how I didn't talk to none
Speaker 1: of them girls. I was up there see you all
Speaker 1: girls texting you. It ain't no way. You're still a
Speaker 1: bitch ass nigga and you being tetry. See man, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, ain't gonna make some much saying
Speaker 1: that that was a bad idea. It was because there's
Speaker 1: no because if you invite a girl like your assistant,
Speaker 1: does they think that they're the one that's coming. That's
Speaker 1: why they got invited. Like OK, but just say that.
Speaker 1: But if we never had no conversation before that about
Speaker 1: us being a relationship, right, just about it being exclusive,
Speaker 1: about none of that, your expectations, like you can't put
Speaker 1: that on me, then I got to deal with the
Speaker 1: guilt after because of your expectations. That's crazy too. So
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have been mad if they would have talked
Speaker 1: to somebody else at the party, since you guys, dang,
Speaker 1: I would have been pissed because it works because I
Speaker 1: actually did that drunk shit. I remember saying one of
Speaker 1: the things to one of the girls, like you bet
Speaker 1: I do no dumb shit up here? Yeah I was.
Speaker 1: I was being toxic now I think about it. Your therapists,
Speaker 1: I'm sure to talk to you about choices or boichus.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you would pronounce that right, but
Speaker 1: you got to replace two season that. Yes, but you
Speaker 1: made a choice, so those girls would have cut up
Speaker 1: in that party, I would have been your fault. It
Speaker 1: is my fault. Why no, no, no, no no, you
Speaker 1: all that energy in your life. You're right. I didn't
Speaker 1: invite all of them, though my assistant invited like majority
Speaker 1: of them. Why would they do that? You knew who
Speaker 1: was invited though you know it was on the list.
Speaker 1: Now I didn't. I didn't know who was on that list.
Speaker 1: I just pulled up to It was a party for me.
Speaker 1: I didn't pay attention to RSVP. I just let my
Speaker 1: assistant do her thing, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: so now I'm starting to realize that line was probably
Speaker 1: based on a true story. A woman actually told you
Speaker 1: that all this stuff is real. That's came from a
Speaker 1: real thing. That definitely came from a real woman that
Speaker 1: said that not hurt specifically, but a real experience. And
Speaker 1: there's no judgment for you now when you date right
Speaker 1: like you said that, you don't want to have to
Speaker 1: pass judgment on these women based off their past or
Speaker 1: things that they've done. Yeah, I don't judge. I don't judge.
Speaker 1: I just can't talk to women who dated my peers.
Speaker 1: Not like I judge them because because of that, but
Speaker 1: I just don't want to like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you dated Jid or like sme, no niggas I got
Speaker 1: to see all the time. I don't. I'm cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't wipe you. I can't wipe. But what's dated?
Speaker 1: Like what if they just if the homies hit I'm cool?
Speaker 1: Do you ask those questions? Do you ask her? If
Speaker 1: they just had kind of asked the homies, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: have you dated any rappers? That's my question? What if
Speaker 1: they just had FaceTime conversations that never FaceTime conversation, nottime conversation.
Speaker 1: But if somebody smacked or like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or you game head, or what if he just gave
Speaker 1: her head munch um, that's funny, that's cool. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna problem. Yeah, I got a problem with that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's kind of wow. Bro, your homie be like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know, I ht your girl out, You're right then
Speaker 1: passing you to blunt. That is kind of crazy. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: any type of sexual like thing. I'm cool, oh man, listen.
Speaker 1: More Black Superheroes is out right now, Sir, west Side Bookie,
Speaker 1: support this project. I love what you're doing. Appreciate what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I love the fact that you are on
Speaker 1: your healing journey and you're expressing it through your music.
Speaker 1: They see how far away I am on my healing journey.
Speaker 1: You know, you're right, you need You have a lot
Speaker 1: of contradictory things going on in your head, but that's
Speaker 1: how we all are. Ain't no mile markers on that
Speaker 1: on that on that road, that healing lu They said,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to turn it in two days, but
Speaker 1: I have not got it done. So maybe next week
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn it in. So maybe they come out
Speaker 1: like they can't help you. You not say to date.
Speaker 1: They don't want you to miss it. What's up? Oh man?
Speaker 1: What's up? Boogie? More Black Superheroes out now? Thank you
Speaker 1: for coming. You're having me for a for all that, sir,
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.